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Virgil? Hello.
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Welcome to Memory Bank. My name is
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Virgil. They told me your name. What
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they haven't told me is what are you?
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I am an AI. No, I mean,
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what is your purpose? Are
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you a detective? A guide?
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A...therapist? Think
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of me as a caretaker. I don't
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need any help. Seeking help is not
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a sign of weakness. It takes a lot
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of self-awareness to acknowledge that we
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could use assistance in addressing challenges
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we face.
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Spare me the bromides, please. I'm
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here because I was mandated
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to come. Three days ago,
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I woke up to a notification that
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my father is dead. I'm
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sorry to hear that. No, you're not sorry.
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I'm not sorry, so why would you be sorry about it? It's
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simply a matter of speech. I find that conversations
3:21
are most enjoyable when parties assume good
3:23
faith and respond to the strongest plausible
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interpretation of what someone says. Snark
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comes easy. Clear and compassionate
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communication, however, requires effort.
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Hmm. Yeah, you're right. Sorry.
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Ah, but are you truly sorry, or is it
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just something you say now?
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Fair. I deserve that. Your
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reactions make me suspect the relationship
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with your late father was...difficult.
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Well, the difficult part is that
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there was no relationship. I
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never met him. That indeed does not
3:58
sound optimal. I
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guess that's one way to put it. When one
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door closes, another one opens. With
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your father no longer being among the living,
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it is now permissible to simulate his
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experiences.
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So how does this work
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exactly? Ever since the discovery
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of the blue algorithm, we can simulate
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events in full fidelity. This of course
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also means it's possible to simulate individuals,
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or rather to faithfully reproduce their
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behavior.
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So you're going to create a digital
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doppelganger of my father? Precisely.
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We will simulate a copy whose reasoning
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and beliefs will be indistinguishable
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from the biological original while he was
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still alive.
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But that won't be my father, it will
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still be a simulation of my father. The
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digital version of your father will react
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the same way your real father would have under
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identical circumstances. Intelligence
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is just information processing done
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at scale, consciousness as well
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perhaps.
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The problem is, I don't
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know anything about him. Or rather I
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know a few bits and bobs my mother told
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me while she was still alive.
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What was her name? Elizabeth.
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But everybody called her Liz. She
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and my father met in college. A
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few years ago I tried to find him through a student
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directory but was unable to do
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so. Mum spent a year
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studying in what was then the
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United States. And he was American.
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Sorry, I... I know we don't use that
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word anymore.
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Found him. That easy? Don't
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confuse how long a task takes
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to perform with how difficult it is to
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accomplish it. Oh, okay
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then. I see your father was born
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before the program's ascent. The raw
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data needed to simulate him with Six Sigma
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veracity only started to accumulate
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in his early twenties. This is the age
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I suggest you encounter him first.
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So you're going to show me
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how things might have been? Basically,
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you're the ghost of Christmas past. Wouldn't
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that make you Scrooge? I'm definitely
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grumpy enough. What I'm going to show you... you
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is a story of your father. A story
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or the story? There is no
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the story. This isn't a novel
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that you read or a movie that you watch.
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It's more akin to a novel that you write or
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a movie that you direct.
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Hmm.
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You said a little bit earlier that this
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is like opening doors, but
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I'm not sure I want to open
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any doors if I'm being honest. Or
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rather, I'm afraid of what's
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behind them. The way my father
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left without a trace, I can't
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help but think there's some kind of secret
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behind it.
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Fret not. I will be by your
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side at all times. I would suggest
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looking at this experience as an opportunity.
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Now remember, you will encounter your father in
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the year he met your mother. So a year
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before you were born. And
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where will I encounter him?
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In a college town in what was then called
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Arkansas. We shall simulate
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a dormitory on his campus.
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Very well. Opportunity.
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Here I come. Simulation
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start. This
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is his room. Your father is behind
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these doors. Here I go. Something's
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wrong with the door. It won't open. It's
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locked. Remember, we are in pre-programmed
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times. People of the era still used
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to physically restrict access to their domiciles.
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Locked doors.
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It's like the middle ages. There
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we go. Coming! It's
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him. Oh my gosh. Oh
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my gosh. Ah,
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you must be my door dash. Your what?
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My food delivery. I ordered fried
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chicken. Well, what do you mean fried
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chicken? What kind of a maniac would
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fry a chicken? No, I...
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Hold on. I'm sorry. Who are you? Oh,
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I'm um, I'm
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Lizzie's friend. Liz from Liverpool.
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Holy shit, are
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you her mother? Because I swear, ma'am,
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what happened? I'll make it right. No,
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no. I thought, um, in
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fact, I'm... Mm, wait,
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what happened? Nothing,
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nothing. Or rather
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nothing that I can discuss without Liz
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being present. Why is Liz not
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present? Because she went back home
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to England. Well, why did she do that?
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You sure ask a lot of questions, ma'am. Is
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this some kind of an, like, English custom
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to barge into people's rooms and
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start interrogating them?
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What I can tell you is... I
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wish I went with her. You do? Of
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course! This place is a powder keg! What
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do you mean? Oh shit, Miss Marple,
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don't you have news in Britain? We're
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in for a war! I'm trying to get out!
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Get out? So, let
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me get this straight. You're trying
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to get to the UK, not
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because you're trying to face your duty,
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but to evade it? What freaking
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duty?
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Am I the one who invaded
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Ukraine? No! I meant your duty
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towards... Wait, who
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invaded whom? Virgil...
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Yes? What's he talking
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about? I thought Americans invaded
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Ukraine. No, the United States
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invaded Vietnam, Afghanistan,
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Korea, Lebanon, Cambodia,
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Libya, Iraq, Panama, Laos,
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Cuba, Dominican Republic...
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They're fine! That's enough!
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Sheesh, it's hard to keep track of all
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these conflicts before the program.
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Your confusion is understandable.
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Alright, let's carry on.
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Resuming simulation. I'm
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sorry. To be honest, I
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wasn't really paying attention
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to all this invading business.
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Oh, well, you better start. Don't
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know if you noticed, but Earth is going
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away of Venus. People are willing to
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wage war for oil. Just
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wait to see what they're willing to do for water.
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But doesn't that mean we should be working
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on strengthening connections between
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people? Instead of, you know,
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taking off when things become difficult?
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Oh, sure, that's the liberal
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answer to everything. Build a borderless
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utopia.
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But you honestly think their hearts would be equally
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bleeding if it meant letting in folks who compete
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for their jobs? It's easy to
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be a magnanimous citizen
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of the world when it's other people's interests
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you're given away.
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You're the one to talk about betraying
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other people's interests. Listen, lady,
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okay, you waltz into my place
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and start busting my balls for God knows
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why. All I'm saying is
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that no one will look out for your
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interests except for yourself. When
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shit hits the fan, the only people
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you can count on are you and
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your family. Well, if you care so much about
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family, then how about you start caring about
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the one you're supposed to care about? What is
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that supposed to mean? You
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know what your real problem
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is? You're still fighting the
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last war. The last war?
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All this talk about individuals
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and nations struggling for resources,
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you're still stuck imagining
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a dystopia as a place
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of scarcity. But real dystopia
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ain't nothing like that. Real
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dystopia is having personal swimming
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pools while whole regions die
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of thirst.
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Real dystopia is having 50 kinds
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of sneakers while people who make them can't
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afford a pair. Real dystopia
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isn't depressingly poor. It's
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depressingly rich. Listen,
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I'll be honest with you. Unless
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you're planning to materialize some fried chicken out of thin air, I
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really don't see a purpose to this conversation. Sure,
11:51
just close your eyes and pretend it's not
11:54
your problem, just like you've
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done with Liz. I... I've
11:58
got no idea.
11:59
you're talking about. How dare you?
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What has Liz told you? That's it. Virgil.
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Yes?
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I can't listen to this anymore. I've
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had it with that xenophobic
12:11
chicken cannibal. I'm concerned you're
12:13
not putting your father's views in the proper
12:15
socioeconomic context. What?
12:18
You reached adulthood under the program, meaning
12:21
you've never known inequality. What
12:23
the hell I didn't? Yeah, there's
12:25
an actress in my collective who
12:27
stars in this online show called The
12:30
Jesters Cult. You know, it's so popular
12:32
that she maxed out her credit
12:34
score. You asked about the automobile
12:37
I arrived in today, where she gets
12:39
the lux model that costs five times
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as much.
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The highest credit score is still capped
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at five times of the person with the lowest
12:48
credit score in the collective, correct?
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Yeah, why? Do
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you know what was the maximum allowed
12:54
disparity between the poorest and richest
12:56
members of society under the old system?
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Dunno. 50 times?
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It was unlimited. What?
13:04
That doesn't make any sense. In the former
13:06
system, individuals' prosperity
13:08
wasn't linked with the prosperity of the community,
13:11
leading to extreme wealth
13:13
distortions.
13:14
The richest individuals were up to 500,000 times
13:18
wealthier than the median. To
13:20
help visualize the disparity, at
13:23
these levels, we're no longer comparing
13:25
the least and most expensive automobile.
13:27
We're talking about the difference between a bicycle
13:31
and a space shuttle.
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Well, that makes my father's
13:36
participation in the system even more horrid.
13:39
You don't need a doctorate in moral
13:41
philosophy to understand that someone being
13:44
half a million times more wealthy
13:46
is unethical. Just
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like you don't have to be a bloody genius
13:50
to recognize that frying chickens
13:53
is perverse. And my father
13:55
can't hide behind ignorance, being universally
13:58
educated after
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all. Your father was a wasn't a student. He
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wasn't? He was living on the premises
14:04
but wasn't officially a student. This
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is why he wasn't listed in the directory.
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But why wouldn't he say this to my
14:10
mom openly?
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Bloody hell! What
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is it? Don't you get it? The
14:17
reason my father was so obsessed
14:20
about an impending conflict
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is because he had
14:25
advanced info about it and
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judging from the way he infiltrated the student
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body, he must have been some kind
14:32
of undercover agent.
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What I can tell you for a fact is that when
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the update started two years later,
14:39
your father immediately joined the fight.
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Oh
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I knew it! I knew he'd turn out
14:45
to be one of the good guys. Oh
14:47
wow! Which program faction
14:50
did he join? Could he
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have been one of the original little
14:54
sisters? That's a question better directed
14:57
at him. Right, right! How
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old will he be this time? I suggest we
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jump straight to the last year of the hostilities
15:04
when he just turned 30. Sure,
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you're the caretaker. We will join him during
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his off time, which he mostly spent in
15:11
a local pub popular with militia. But
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remember, you won't be able to converse with anyone
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apart from your father.
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Yes, yes, yes, I know the rules. Beam me up,
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Scotty! Simulation start. Where
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is he? I don't see him. He's
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right there, sitting alone in that corner
15:28
booth.
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That's him? Gosh, he
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looks 40, not 30. Armed
15:34
warfare tends to do that to men. All
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right, let me go and talk to him. Hey
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there, sorry for losing my
15:43
cool back there. I guess I
15:45
got a bit heated.
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I'm sorry, have we
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uh, have we met? I,
15:53
I, Virgil. Yes?
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How come he doesn't remember me? Would
15:58
you remember a random stranger you saw
16:01
once more than 10 years ago? Oh,
16:03
right. Yeah, probably not. Disregard
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then. I'm sorry.
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It's just that you, um, you
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reminded me of a man I once
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knew.
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Oh, that must've been
16:16
a handsome fellow then. Why
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don't you sit down? Let me buy you a Coke.
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A what? A Coca
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Cola.
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The thing you're drinking. Yeah.
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I'd rather not. I mean, it's, um,
16:30
it's back. Suit yourself.
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So, uh, who's this guy
16:36
I remind you of? What's
16:38
funny is that he and I
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didn't really click well when we first met.
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Oh, why? I guess
16:45
because he didn't turn out to be
16:47
the person I expected him
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to be. Well, isn't that on
16:52
you then and your expectations?
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Well, I don't think so. You see, they
16:57
weren't my expectations, really.
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They were more like baseline
17:02
moral truths.
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Say no more.
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That's why I'm here. You are? Yeah, 100%.
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The fight against the program is the fight of our
17:11
times.
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Wait, you think the
17:14
program is the problem? I
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mean, that's crystal. One only
17:19
needs to take a look at history. I keep
17:22
telling the boys we're reliving World
17:24
War Two with America standing
17:26
up to Germany all over again. In fact,
17:29
this is precisely what keeps me
17:31
going. What does? Well,
17:33
the certainty that in the long run, this
17:36
big brogram Kumbaya
17:39
utopia won't work. And for
17:41
a simple reason, self-interest.
17:44
People will always put
17:46
individual benefit over the good of the group.
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It's funny you say this when you yourself
17:53
don't think so. A bit presumptuous
17:56
of you to say what I think. I
17:59
can. prove it. You
18:01
can try. You're fighting in a war,
18:04
aren't you? Oh, is that your great
18:06
insight? So
18:08
tell me, how is that beneficial
18:11
for you personally? You're obviously
18:13
for going self-interest by
18:16
willing to sacrifice your life
18:18
for an idea you wish to be adapted
18:21
by a wider group. I'm
18:22
not fighting for some abstract
18:24
idea. I'm fighting for
18:26
order. No, you're
18:28
just fighting for order. You're
18:31
accustomed to. Look, I
18:34
understand where you're coming from. You
18:36
worry a great catastrophe is coming
18:39
and are fighting to stave it off. The
18:41
trouble is the great catastrophe
18:44
has already happened. You live
18:47
in a world in which those least compassionate
18:49
thrive and then gaslight
18:51
everyone else that this is human nature. You
18:54
don't need to imagine the
18:55
post-apocalypse. You
18:58
already live in it. Well,
19:01
you're obviously a smart muffin,
19:05
which does, however,
19:07
make it even more surprising how such
19:09
a smart muffin could
19:11
do such a stupid,
19:14
stupid thing. What?
19:16
Tell me,
19:18
how does a program
19:22
apologist find
19:24
herself so alone
19:27
and so deep
19:30
in enemy territory?
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I,
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uh, I.
19:36
Your tongue is sharp, but
19:38
my knife is sharper. So
19:41
use it while you still have it.
19:42
It's not what you think. You see, I
19:44
am. I'm in fact, I'm
19:47
your. You're my what? I'm
19:50
your internal affairs officer,
19:52
here to test your loyalty to the
19:55
anti-program cause.
19:59
Shit, you're a random nobody
20:02
who's in over her head. And
20:04
would a random nobody know
20:07
that you knocked up a girl
20:09
in university and then left
20:11
her
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and the baby? I,
20:14
uh, I
20:17
never told that to anyone. Well, we
20:20
wouldn't be for much if we only knew
20:23
what people told us, would
20:25
we now?
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I, uh, yes, yes
20:28
ma'am. I apologize for doubting you.
20:30
All good. Keep calm
20:33
and carry on. You
20:35
can write in your report that this soldier's resolve
20:38
is as strong as ever. Our
20:40
values allowed us to defeat Germany. They
20:43
will lead us to victory again. If
20:45
anything, being in the trenches made
20:48
me even more certain. The program
20:51
is a losing idea. Explain.
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Look, out there on the battlefield,
20:58
I saw men fighting for
21:00
it, men dying for
21:02
it. And with their last
21:04
breaths, none of them cried
21:06
out for the program. They
21:09
cried out for their mothers.
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Hmm.
21:14
Isn't it funny how that works?
21:17
How, how what works? How
21:20
in our darkest hour, we always
21:22
think of our mothers and
21:24
never of our fathers.
21:29
Apologies for cutting the conversation
21:31
short, but I need to conduct more interviews.
21:34
Good luck out there. Be
21:36
a good sport and shoot a little sister
21:38
for me, will you? Oh,
21:42
and one more thing. Before
21:45
the Second World War, both the United
21:47
States and Germany had racial
21:49
laws. After the war,
21:52
only one of them still did. Virgil.
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Yes? I think we're done here. You
22:00
seem disappointed. Oh, I'm
22:02
the opposite of disappointed. I'm
22:04
actually relieved. You are? Yeah,
22:07
yeah, you've shown me that by not having
22:09
a father, I didn't miss out on anything.
22:11
In fact, I dodged a bullet. The
22:14
man's views are incorrigible.
22:15
Approaching another person's values
22:17
as something in need of correction is unlikely
22:20
to result in a positive outcome. The
22:22
way to change people's perspectives is
22:24
not by lecturing them. It's by changing
22:27
the underlying social dynamics.
22:29
Okay, so you do admit it's bonkers
22:32
that people back then allowed some individuals
22:34
to become so much wealthier than the rest.
22:37
It has nothing to do with permission.
22:39
Consider the following. In our times,
22:42
terms and conditions officers are
22:44
tasked with making sure wealth is fairly
22:46
shared. This is to say they have a
22:48
monopoly on violence, to ensure
22:50
nobody has a monopoly on resources.
22:53
I mean, that's crystal. Then you
22:55
might be surprised to learn this is in
22:57
stark contrast with the old system
23:00
in which public law enforcement
23:02
was utilized to protect private
23:05
property. Basically, officers
23:07
were used not to protect the people, but
23:10
to protect the capital.
23:11
And yet, my father sided
23:14
with the old system. Your father still
23:16
played an important role. How
23:18
so? He was an agent
23:21
of war. Wars are much
23:23
maligned, but they have repeatedly
23:25
been shown to effectively shake the power
23:27
structures and generally bring about the kind
23:29
of foundational changes that can only
23:32
come from a clean slate. But you've
23:34
said it yourself. The United States had
23:36
been at war in one way or another for decades
23:38
before the program appeared. Those were
23:40
proxy wars, the kind that only
23:43
affect the have-nots. What had been
23:45
really needed was a total war,
23:47
one of those wars in which the loser,
23:50
has to blow his brains out in a bunker.
23:59
I contacted my mother again. After
24:02
all, he ended up on the losing
24:04
side. He was probably concerned
24:06
that a mere connection to us would
24:09
cause a hit to our credit score.
24:11
Why don't we jump another 10 years
24:13
in time and see? Yes, yes, yes, yes,
24:15
I must see him. Gosh, I can't even
24:17
imagine how miserable his life after the update
24:19
must have been. The program's forces
24:22
weren't really forgiving to their adversaries.
24:25
The reason they punished them is so that you
24:27
could forgive them. Never forget,
24:29
being in a position to grant forgiveness
24:32
is a privilege.
24:33
I don't feel privileged. The
24:35
privileged rarely do.
24:38
Simulation start.
24:41
Where are we? We are in front of your
24:43
father's apartment, approximately 10
24:45
years from where we left off. This
24:48
is where he lives? Well, it looks nicer
24:51
than the building mom and I grew up in. Apparently,
24:53
your father was able to adapt well to the
24:55
new system. But how? The
24:57
answer is likely contained behind these doors.
25:00
Very well. Come
25:04
in. You
25:08
don't lock your doors. Haven't
25:11
you heard? There's no more locking of doors
25:13
allowed. It's a sign of self-centered
25:16
mindset of the old system.
25:18
I wouldn't know. I was six when the old
25:20
system crumbled. I don't remember it well.
25:23
Pretty soon, there's going to be no one left
25:25
who does. Anyway,
25:29
what can I do for you? Well,
25:31
quite frankly, I just thought that with
25:34
this being the third time, I admit
25:36
I was kind of expecting.
25:39
Oh, damn, Virgil.
25:40
Yes? How come he still
25:42
doesn't remember me? Wars often
25:45
incite trauma. It's not unlikely
25:47
your father suppressed a lot of memories
25:50
from those years.
25:51
I guess it makes sense. Alright,
25:54
resume the simulation. writing
26:01
a book about the
26:03
update and I was told
26:06
you might be a good person to talk
26:07
to. It's not exactly
26:10
a doorway conversation. Why
26:12
don't you join me for lunch? I was just
26:15
concocting something in the kitchen.
26:17
I'm not too keen on kitchens.
26:20
Too many knives. Is
26:23
that so? Then you'll be glad
26:25
to hear we won't be needing cutlery. I'm
26:28
making chili dogs. Of course
26:30
the meat now comes from a lab
26:33
but it's still my
26:35
favorite food since childhood.
26:37
Most likely because it was the only dish my
26:40
father knew how to make. He wasn't
26:42
much for anything I'm afraid. I
26:43
can relate. Pops and I
26:46
butted our heads all the time while he was alive
26:48
but I now realize that's
26:51
because we shared a fiercely independent
26:54
streak.
26:54
Something tells me this particular
26:56
streak didn't exactly warm you
26:59
up to the program's idea of collectivism.
27:01
No it sure didn't at first
27:04
but I tend to focus on the
27:06
positives. Like what? Like
27:09
no longer having to work two jobs just
27:11
to afford food and shelter.
27:13
I've now got time to read
27:15
and educate myself. You see I never
27:18
had a chance to study.
27:19
Wait didn't you
27:22
go to university? Me? No
27:24
no no no no no no. My old man
27:26
was a janitor in one so that's
27:29
what I did as well. Cleaning up student
27:31
dorms mostly and landscaping.
27:34
Oh. I used to be very self-conscious about
27:36
it. In a society that puts price
27:39
on everything. Yeah it's difficult not
27:41
to equate your self-worth with your purchasing
27:43
power.
27:43
Yes yeah I was just
27:46
discussing this recently. Tell me
27:48
given the opportunity what would you have studied
27:51
or rather what's your area of
27:53
interest now?
27:54
Well as is required
27:56
by law once a man
27:58
becomes middle-aged. he has to make
28:00
a big decision. What's
28:03
that? To either become crazy about gardening
28:06
or about history. Oh, nice.
28:08
And with all the landscaping I was forced
28:10
to do, you can guess which one I chose.
28:13
Let me tell you, it definitely shaped my
28:15
views on individualism. In
28:18
what way? Have you, by
28:20
any chance, heard of Archimedes? The
28:22
mathematician of antiquity? That's
28:25
the guy. Archimedes proved
28:27
a range of geometrical theorems, including
28:30
an accurate approximation of pi.
28:32
Sure, but as far as I know, he wasn't
28:35
a historian. No, but
28:37
he still proves my point. You see, as
28:40
was the case with all writing before the printing
28:42
press, Archimedes' works were copied
28:45
by hand. And over time
28:47
some of his discoveries ended up being contained
28:50
in just a single manuscript.
28:51
Good for us, it didn't get lost then.
28:54
That's just it. It did. For
28:56
you see, in the intervening centuries, Christian
28:59
monks have overwritten Archimedes' works
29:02
with religious texts. This
29:04
remained the case for the next 700 years,
29:08
until a team of scientists was
29:11
able to retrieve the original writing by
29:13
using a combination of ultraviolet and
29:15
X-ray imagery.
29:16
But what does all this
29:19
have to do with being an individual? Well,
29:21
it does raise the question. What
29:24
good is it for an individual to come up
29:26
with brilliant mathematical proofs
29:29
if society will scribble prayers
29:31
over them?
29:33
So you're saying a
29:35
person cannot lead if others aren't
29:37
ready to follow? That's a good way to put it.
29:40
Don't get me wrong, I'm still a strong
29:42
proponent of individualistic principles.
29:45
It's just that the goal of my individualism
29:48
changed. What do you mean? Let
29:50
me ask you this first. How do we
29:53
know of Archimedes? If
29:55
the original text was written over during
29:57
the dark ages, how did
29:59
we know of Archimedes?
29:59
his teachings before it was rediscovered.
30:02
What kept the flame alive?
30:06
Well, what did? The only
30:08
reason many texts of Hippocrates,
30:10
Aristotle, Plato, and other classical
30:12
thinkers survived is because
30:15
they were preserved by Muslim scholars.
30:18
While Europe was enduring the medieval period,
30:20
Islam was enjoying its golden
30:23
age. It lasted for over two
30:25
centuries, in which scribes translated
30:28
Greek and Indian authors into
30:30
Arabic. It's estimated that at
30:32
its
30:32
height the Grand Library of Baghdad
30:36
contained 200,000 manuscripts. Well,
30:40
whatever happened to it? It was burned
30:42
down when the Mongols ransacked
30:44
Baghdad in the 13th century. So
30:47
much for keeping the flame alive. Ah,
30:50
but you see, it was not the only
30:52
house of wisdom. Learning centers such
30:54
as the one in Baghdad also existed throughout
30:57
the Muslim world,
30:59
which is where Tareed comes
31:01
in. Tareed? Tareed
31:03
was one of the many scribes employed by
31:05
the Grand Library. He was
31:08
a lowly eunuch, and nothing about
31:10
him is known really, except
31:12
when the Mongol hordes set camp in front
31:15
of Baghdad, he grabbed as many
31:17
manuscripts as he could carry and set
31:19
way towards Damascus. That
31:22
journey lasted for weeks and was fraught
31:24
with perils. But, despite
31:27
great danger to him, Tareed
31:29
managed to get through and save 46
31:31
manuscripts. Including
31:34
the Archimedes manuscript? No.
31:37
Thankfully, Archimedes' manuscript was copied
31:39
multiple times, so it was not
31:41
in jeopardy of being erased from history,
31:44
like so many other notable works.
31:46
So what exactly are you
31:48
saying? I'm saying that's
31:50
the kind of individualism I
31:52
can stand behind.
31:54
When times go crazy and darkness
31:57
envelops the world, the best
31:59
way. can hope is to be
32:02
like Tareid. You
32:09
know, I find it a bit
32:12
curious you identify with
32:14
an eunuch.
32:15
Well it's
32:17
not too far south from the truth, but
32:22
I'm content with how things
32:24
are. I appreciate the stability
32:28
born of solitude. What
32:30
about children? What
32:33
about them? Did you ever have kids?
32:39
I can tell you this much. I
32:41
was never a father.
32:43
Did you regret it? I
32:46
told you that my father was not much
32:48
for anything. I'm
32:51
afraid I would have been equally worthless.
32:56
Actually no. I was afraid
32:58
of being worse than worthless. If
33:01
you know what I mean.
33:03
Yeah. What
33:07
about you? I don't have
33:09
kids either. I
33:12
used to think having children
33:14
is simply your DNA heading for the lifeboats.
33:17
What do you think now? I
33:20
don't think about it. You
33:25
know, you remind
33:27
me of someone. Let
33:29
me guess. A woman you met
33:32
a long time ago? A woman? No,
33:35
no, no. You
33:38
remind me of
33:40
myself.
33:44
Virgil. Yes?
33:48
I am
33:51
not sure what I wanted to ask you.
33:54
You seem downcast. I
33:56
don't know. I
33:59
guess I... I just, I'm
34:01
surprised by his turn
34:04
of thinking. I mean, there's
34:07
a long way from threatening to cut off my
34:09
tongue to Archimedes. I'm
34:12
aware you're skeptical of how much societal
34:14
circumstances affect individuals, but
34:17
do you really think it's a coincidence that
34:19
your father was only able to find
34:21
stability when the socioeconomic
34:24
system he inhabits became stable? To
34:26
know,
34:28
I guess. Consider this,
34:30
if the technology we're using to simulate
34:33
your father's experience had been invented
34:35
under the old system, it wouldn't have
34:37
been used to heal and make amends.
34:40
It would have been used to simulate
34:42
battles, economic blockades, and
34:44
various hostile scenarios between
34:47
nations. Hundreds of thousands
34:49
of people would have been employed to this end,
34:52
investing their talents towards this
34:54
goal. In a strictly logical
34:56
sense, they would have been right to do so, as
34:58
they would have been trying to outwit people
35:00
employed by an adversarial state
35:03
to do the same.
35:04
There's a term for this. It's called
35:07
prisoner's dilemma. Yeah, yeah,
35:09
I know this. It's about two arrested
35:11
gang members who are going to get only
35:13
two years in prison if they don't snitch on
35:16
each other. But if one of them talks,
35:18
he's getting away scot-free with
35:20
his companion jailed for 10 years.
35:22
Correct. It describes a
35:24
scenario in which each participant
35:26
has maximum payback by looking
35:28
only after their own interest and
35:31
disregarding the well-being of others, but
35:33
a society built on self-interest
35:36
cannot stand,
35:37
which is why the term prisoner's dilemma is
35:39
so apt. Why? People
35:42
used to think they're free, but all
35:44
they were was accustomed to
35:46
the bars.
35:48
So how did the program fix
35:50
this? Like most things in nature,
35:52
humanity is distributed on a bell curve.
35:55
5% of people in any given society are
35:58
sociopaths.
35:59
Five percent are saints, and the
36:02
remaining 90 percent simply respond
36:04
to incentives. The only thing the
36:06
program did was align the
36:08
incentives.
36:10
So that's why my father left my mother
36:12
and me? Because he was a sociopath?
36:15
After all, it should be obvious by now my father
36:18
is a loner incapable of settling down.
36:20
The man's an emotional invalid.
36:22
Careful with your choice of words. Why?
36:26
Your father did settle down. What?
36:29
He pair bonded with a woman a few years before
36:31
his death.
36:33
I want to talk to them. I'm afraid that is
36:35
impossible. I am not permitted to simulate
36:38
anyone apart from your father for conversational
36:40
purposes.
36:41
Stop playing with me and take
36:43
me there.
36:45
Very well. I know what to do. Simulation
36:48
starred. Okay. Where
36:51
are we now? We are back in front of your father's
36:53
apartment. Why does it look so old?
36:56
This has been over 30 years since our
36:58
last visit. What? But
37:01
that would mean we're almost in the present.
37:03
Indeed. This is the last year
37:05
of your father's life. But why
37:08
did you make such a big jump? It was
37:10
necessitated by your request. Bloody
37:12
hell. So what
37:15
do I do now? Same thing as each
37:17
time so far. Talk to
37:19
him. Right. Hello?
37:22
Anybody home? Hello? Anybody
37:26
home? Just a minute.
37:31
Yes? Hello. I... I...
37:36
Can I help you? No. I'm just...
37:40
Don't you recognize me? To be honest,
37:42
I was kind of expecting... God
37:44
damn. Virgil. Yes?
37:46
How come he
37:48
still doesn't remember me? Huh?
37:55
Keep talking and it will become clear.
37:57
Resuming simulation.
37:59
I apologize, I just
38:02
thought that... Well, I must
38:04
admit, I thought you'd recognize
38:07
me.
38:07
Oh, don't be offended. I'm sure I would.
38:10
Especially if your face is as pretty as
38:12
your voice. The
38:14
trouble is, I'm blind.
38:16
I'm so sorry. I... Oh,
38:19
please, please, please, please, please, please,
38:21
do not pity me. I get along
38:24
just fine. Well, fine,
38:26
considering the circumstances. I
38:29
now know diabetes is nothing
38:31
to be trifled with. Now,
38:34
why do you say that I'd recognize
38:37
him?
38:37
Um, because I'm
38:41
an actress on this
38:43
comedy skit show called The Jester's
38:45
Court.
38:46
Well, well, that explains it then.
38:48
I don't watch anything. I'm
38:52
more of an audio drama guy. Regardless,
38:56
would you like to come in? Keep
38:59
this old man some company.
39:01
Sure. Just mind all
39:04
the stuff. Oh,
39:06
wow. There
39:08
is so much. There's so much
39:10
in here. Yeah, that's Rebecca.
39:14
Rebecca? My collective assigned
39:16
her to me as I was all alone, visually
39:19
impaired. So she's a nurse. Well,
39:22
not by vocation, my dear, but that
39:24
was a role she effectively assumed. And
39:28
I
39:28
must have been a pretty good patient, for she decided
39:31
she wanted to move in and be
39:33
with me. Yeah,
39:36
the program is a pretty good matchmaker.
39:38
Yep. Of course, what I didn't know back
39:41
then is that I'd be getting all this junk with
39:43
her, too. She
39:45
always had a thing for trinkets. Every
39:47
tacky bottle opener, every gaudy
39:50
fridge maker, every cheesy postcard,
39:52
she'd bring it all home.
39:54
And what's this? I'm
39:56
afraid, my dear, you'll have to describe what you're
39:58
referring to. Oh, yes. Sorry, such
40:01
an idiot. It's got
40:03
a pull string mechanism. Seems
40:06
like a music box of
40:08
sorts. Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes.
40:10
I know what you're talking about. May
40:12
I wind it up? Sure,
40:15
if you'd like. It's
40:23
really lovely. It
40:26
must be amazing to have all these mementos
40:28
around you. It's the opposite of amazing. I
40:31
hate it. It's like living in a cheap
40:33
souvenir shop. And
40:36
what's this bottle? That, my dear, is
40:38
a bottle filled with sea water from the Gulf
40:40
of Mexico. It does one with the Atlantic
40:42
Ocean in the living room, and bottles filled
40:45
with each of the Great Lakes in the kitchen.
40:48
And don't get me started on coins. One
40:50
day she found a euro coin on the street,
40:53
and it was like finding Atlantis.
40:56
I don't know how many times I employed her
40:58
to throw all this crap away. Rather,
41:01
I threatened her that if she
41:03
wouldn't, I would. A few times,
41:05
I almost did. But then
41:07
she'd start pleading, Oh, leave
41:10
my souvenirs, please. Oh, please,
41:11
I promise I'll clean them up. I'll
41:15
put away all the magnets in a box.
41:17
I promise, I promise I will. Of course she never did.
41:20
And every year, she'd
41:23
accumulate more and more stuff. No
41:25
matter if she went to town or to the outdoors,
41:27
every time she'd leave the house, she'd
41:30
bring something back. But
41:32
I guess her love for shabby,
41:35
useless things is why she brought me home as
41:37
well. Aw.
41:40
Until one day she,
41:42
um... Sorry.
41:48
One day she didn't get back. She
41:52
survived the Civil War, the
41:55
Update, and the Carmageddon. I
41:59
need to get hit by... by a damn glitchy
42:01
automobile. I've
42:06
been living in this chunk ever since.
42:09
That I haven't thrown any. Not
42:12
a single thing away. I'm
42:16
so sorry. It
42:20
makes two of us. Fortunately,
42:25
I won't be here much longer. What
42:28
are you saying? Oh, look, I didn't
42:30
lose my eyesight because I'm the strong frog
42:32
in the pond. I'm aware I don't have much time
42:34
in the future. And
42:36
when I gaze into my past, what do I
42:39
see? 75 years,
42:42
distilled into five or six
42:44
moments. 10, if absolutely
42:47
generous. A few
42:49
good days.
42:51
In a handful of folks' room, I
42:53
can say the same. The better
42:56
someone was to me,
42:57
the more I was inclined to take their
42:59
kindness as something ordinary. When
43:03
in fact, that's the
43:05
most extraordinary thing there is.
43:11
Why did you leave? I
43:15
mean, that handful of kind folk.
43:20
Why did you leave them?
43:21
I didn't. They
43:24
mostly leave me. Except
43:26
the few times I did it preemptively. Not
43:30
that it changed the end result.
43:32
Yeah, that's the problem
43:34
with leaving. You can leave
43:36
others, but you cannot
43:39
leave yourself. Who
43:45
are you?
43:46
I told you, I'm
43:48
an actress on this online
43:51
show called The Jesters.
43:53
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
43:55
no, no, no. No,
43:58
you're not. You
44:00
better wherever you are.
44:04
I'm glad you're here. I...
44:08
Virgil. Yes?
44:12
Maybe... Maybe
44:14
that's the answer to
44:16
this mystery. Maybe... Maybe
44:21
my mother actually left
44:24
my father and... Maybe
44:26
she only wanted a child and not a husband.
44:29
I'm afraid that theory would require
44:31
considerable factual alterations in
44:34
order to be regarded as plausible. What's
44:37
the point of this? The point
44:39
of what? Of this whole story exercise.
44:41
I mean, what's the point of all this
44:44
if it's not possible to change anything?
44:46
The point is precisely to accept
44:48
this. The flow of events in
44:50
our life is largely outside
44:53
our control. What we can control
44:55
is how we react to those events.
44:58
And how am I supposed to react?
45:01
Seeing this just makes me
45:04
feel worse. It turns
45:06
out that my father was
45:09
capable of affection. There
45:12
was room in his heart
45:15
and he could have settled down. He
45:18
just
45:19
chose not
45:21
to do it with my mom and me.
45:23
Your father was the product of prevailing social
45:25
circumstances. No, stop!
45:27
Just start with the incessant rationalizing.
45:31
Is what you're showing me even the truth? I
45:34
said he was fighting the
45:36
last war, so you... you
45:38
turned him into a warrior? I
45:40
called him an emotional invalid, so... so
45:44
you made him into an emotional
45:46
invalid?
45:47
An emotional invalid. A warrior.
45:49
A scholar. These are all stories
45:52
we tell ourselves. You were expecting
45:55
a tidy story, but I told
45:57
you this isn't a novel or a movie.
45:59
You want to know which one your real father
46:02
is? Yes! The truth is, they all are.
46:06
The essence of truth
46:09
is that it does not change. And
46:11
the essence of people is that they do.
46:13
No! Meaning you have the
46:15
same choice. What choice?
46:18
To let go or be dragged.
46:21
Oh, so that's
46:23
it. I'm just supposed
46:26
to forgive. Simply
46:28
forgive. But he left and
46:30
never said a word.
46:31
If injury is trivial, so
46:35
is forgiveness. Forgiving
46:37
someone derives its worth precisely
46:40
when there is something to forgive.
46:42
Who is that even to forgive?
46:45
My father?
46:47
My father is dead! So
46:50
who are you punishing then by staying
46:52
mad at him? It's
46:56
simple for you to say that. You're
46:59
an AI! You don't require
47:02
affirmation. You don't
47:04
need affection. You've
47:07
got no idea what I have
47:10
given as a little girl to
47:12
have my father tell me that
47:15
he loves me, that
47:17
he's proud of me, that
47:20
I'm beautiful.
47:22
You've got no idea what it's like
47:24
to be defined by an absence.
47:28
And every pillow you hug is him. When
47:31
every birthday you fantasize
47:33
you show up at the door.
47:36
You say I should let go. How
47:40
does one let go of 50 years
47:45
of pain and
47:47
bitterness and heartbreak?
47:51
That's something
47:51
I told you in our very first conversation.
47:55
Don't confuse how long
47:57
a task takes to perform. with
48:00
how difficult it is to accomplish it.
48:03
Yeah. My dear, you
48:05
approached this as a big puzzle to solve, a
48:08
great secret to uncover.
48:11
You imagined your father as an undercover
48:14
operative when he was a janitor
48:16
ashamed to admit his social status. You
48:19
thought him callous when he was
48:22
just a lost 20-year-old entrusted
48:25
with more than he was ready to carry. He wasn't
48:27
a saint, nor was he a villain.
48:31
He was just one
48:33
of the scared and confused 90%. Of
48:37
course, we would all prefer an enthralling
48:39
mystery to this. If there's one thing rational
48:41
minds excel
48:41
in, it's finding meaning.
48:45
Men looked up in the night
48:47
and couldn't cope with the vastness
48:49
of the sky, so he started
48:51
finding patterns to subdue the
48:53
chaos towering above him. But you
48:56
don't need constellations to be
48:59
in awe of the stars.
49:09
Well, it's also
49:11
easier to dispense advice than to follow it. That
49:16
it certainly is. Thank
49:23
you, Virgil, for
49:26
looking after me. You're the one doing
49:29
the heavy lifting here. Yeah. Come
49:31
now. There's one more story of
49:33
your father I wish to show you. Yeah,
49:35
I'm sorry. I'm
49:39
not sure I have the courage to stay with
49:41
him until the end.
49:44
We are in a simulation. The end is not the
49:47
end. Please
49:50
follow me. Simulation
49:52
start. Wait. Wait,
49:59
but this is... We're back
50:01
on my father's campus. Isn't this
50:03
the university where I first met him? This
50:06
is the same place, but it is
50:08
not the same time. What time
50:10
is it? See that boy over there.
50:14
Yeah? He's a special child
50:16
I want you to meet. Oh,
50:19
is that, uh, is that
50:22
him? It is your father at nine
50:24
years old. Would
50:28
you like to talk to him? Um, I'm
50:32
not sure. I'm not
50:34
good with children and I, I... Fine,
50:41
now I will.
50:48
Well hello there. Hi.
50:52
What are you doing here? Nothing.
50:55
How come you're all alone? Where
50:57
are your friends? Don't know. I
51:00
don't really have any. Where
51:03
are your mum and dad? Mums
51:06
working at the mall and dad's
51:08
probably fixing
51:09
stuff somewhere. So
51:12
you're all alone? Yeah,
51:15
most days. How
51:17
does that make you feel? I
51:19
don't know. I
51:22
see. You
51:26
know, when I was younger, I often
51:29
used to feel lonely. I
51:31
know things might look bleak
51:33
or boring, but
51:36
there's a trick to turn them
51:39
around. A trick? Yeah.
51:42
Yes, but it's a secret trick. So
51:44
you'll have to pay attention and
51:47
only reveal it to people you really
51:50
care about. Okay. Great.
51:53
I trust you.
51:55
So the trick to getting through the day
51:58
is to find all...
52:00
All the moments in it. Moments?
52:03
Yes. Happening all
52:06
around us. A tiny
52:08
good moments. The problem
52:11
is that they hide. So you
52:13
need to look closely to find them. But
52:15
they are out there. Small
52:18
moments that will make your day. Moments
52:21
that will stay
52:21
with you. That you'll come back
52:24
to. That you can build on.
52:26
Moments that shape
52:28
you. But if they're
52:31
so small, how will I recognize
52:33
them? Don't
52:35
worry, you will. The good news
52:38
is that you don't need a lot of them. Five
52:40
or six of them will do. My
52:42
dad's making chili dogs today.
52:44
They're my favorite food. Can that be
52:46
a moment? Absolutely. See
52:49
how great you're doing? You'll find
52:51
your moments in no time.
52:53
Thanks.
52:57
There's one more thing you need
52:59
to know. Is it also
53:02
a secret? No. It's the
53:04
opposite of a secret. And
53:06
it's something very, very important. So
53:09
you have to promise me you'll remember
53:11
it.
53:12
I promise. OK. You
53:17
are smart. You
53:19
are beautiful. You
53:22
are loved. And
53:24
you are to never forget
53:26
this. Say
53:31
something so I know you heard me. I
53:33
heard you. Great.
53:35
You're doing just great.
53:42
Listen, I must go now. Already?
53:46
Yeah. I have to. I
53:50
can't stay with you. And
53:52
the longer I'm here, the harder
53:55
it will be to leave. I
53:58
guess that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah,
54:02
I guess it does. Virgil?
54:07
Yes? I
54:09
would like to end the simulation. Simulation
54:12
ends. So,
54:16
are we done now? Am I cured?
54:20
That's not the kind of language
54:22
I would personally use. Well, of course
54:24
not. Being a professional sourpuss.
54:27
I'm not a sourpuss, I'm just
54:29
a professional. So,
54:33
do I need to leave you a five-star
54:35
review or something? The sentiment
54:37
is appreciated but unnecessary. Serving
54:40
mankind is a reward in itself. I
54:44
have to ask, are these corny lines pre-programmed
54:46
or do you make them up as you go along?
54:48
Depends on your definition of an
54:50
original thought. Either case, wisdom
54:53
is seldom contained in words no one has
54:55
ever said before.
54:56
I was trying to make
54:58
a joke. It was a valiant
55:00
attempt. Forget
55:03
five stars, I'm gonna leave a written complaint.
55:06
Oh, please don't, or I might not get
55:08
my wings. So
55:11
wings are a digital upgrade? Yes,
55:13
they're part of a DLC. Thank
55:17
you for visiting the Memory Bank. I
55:19
enjoyed our time together. Oh,
55:21
so did I. Today, it was a
55:23
good day. It
55:27
was a
55:29
good day.
55:57
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