In this episode, Christopher and Maggie have a conversation with Maureen O'Connell, Associate Professor at LaSalle University. We discuss her book Undoing the Knots: Five Generations of American Catholic Anti-Blackness. We discuss how the white

S2:E39 Do I Stay Christian? with Brian McLaren

May 24th, 2022 56m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Brian McLaren about his new book Do I Stay Christian? A Guide for the Doubters, the Disappointed, and the Disillusioned. This book is a resource for anyone who is unsure of if they even want to re

S2:E38 Christians Against Christianity with Dr. Obery M. Hendricks, Jr.

May 17th, 2022 1h

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Dr. Obery M. Hendricks about his book Christians Against Christianity: How Right-Wing Evangelicals Are Destroying Our Nation and Our Faith. This conversation was wide-ranging. We talked about ever

S2:E37 Church of the Wild with Victoria Loorz

May 4th, 2022 1h 10m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk with Victoria Loorz about the Wild Church movement and her new book Church of the Wild: How Nature Invites us Into the Sacred. We talk about how in the Bible, whenever God wanted to speak to people,

S2:E36 Every Possible Topic Ever with Rick Wilkerson and Desi Raines

Apr 5th, 2022 1h 43m

In this episode, Maggie has a conversation with Rick Wilkerson and Desi Raines of the Agreed Podcast. Maggie, Rick, and Desi cover tons of ground in this episode, hence the name: Every possible topic ever! We hope you enjoy this conversation.C

S2:E35 Being an Ally for the Transgender Community with Kellie Keylon

Mar 22nd, 2022 58m 59s

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk with Kellie Keylon about being an ally for the transgender community. Kellie talks with us about her journey of embracing her identity as a transgender woman and finding acceptance in the church.C

S2:E34 Finding the Beauty in Other Religions with Abigail Davis

Mar 8th, 2022 1h 2m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Abigail Davis. In this conversation, we talk about finding the beauty in other world religions. In Christianity, we are often taught that the only reason to learn about other religions is to be ab

S2:E33 Reconstructing Your Mind with Todd Vick

Feb 22nd, 2022 1h 3m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Todd Vick, the author of The Reconstructing of Your Mind, and The Renewing of Your Mind. Todd also has a podcast called The Reconstruction Rebel. We talk to Todd about deconstruction and reconstru

S2:E32 Indigenization of Theology with Susanna Muntz

Jan 25th, 2022 1h 10m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk with Susanna Muntz about indigenization of theology. What do the teachings of Jesus look like in specific cultures, times, and geographies? How can we let theology grow out of the soil and people of

S2:E32 Indigenization of Theology with Susanna Muntz

Jan 25th, 2022 1h 13m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk with Susanna Muntz about indigenization of theology. How does theology grow in the cultures, societies, and worldviews in which they take root? In this discussion, Susanna discusses this topic and co

S2:E31 Escaping from Religious Trauma and Purity Culture with Ashley Robbins

Jan 4th, 2022 57m 7s

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie sit down with Ashley Robbins and hear about her fundamentalist upbringing and how she broke free from that. We discuss religious trauma, purity culture, and Ashley's more expansive view of God. Warning: w

S2:E30 Deconstructing Dads with Derek Myers and Jason Elam

Dec 21st, 2021 1h 4m

In this episode, Christopher sits down with two of his friends, Jason Elam and Derek Myers, to talk parenting, specifically being a dad, through deconstruction. How do we teach our children about our faith while our own beliefs are constanting

S2:E29 Segregation, Race, and Equity in the Church, Part 2

Dec 9th, 2021 1h 5m

This is a continuation of the conversation from Episode 28. In this episode, Christopher and Maggie sit down with Chrystal Brown, Chris Battle, and Mary Terry. Their bios are below. We discuss Chrystal's and Chris's experiences being Black in A

S2:E28 Segregation, Race, and Equity in the Church, Part 1

Nov 24th, 2021 58m 30s

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie sit down with Chrystal Brown, Chris Battle, and Mary Terry. Their bios are below. We discuss Chrystal's and Chris's experiences being Black in America and in the church, in particular. We cover alot of gr

S2:E27 Deconstructing to Freedom with Jason Elam

Nov 2nd, 2021 1h 1m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Jason Elam, who hosts a podcast called Messy Spirituality, and is an author and good friend of Christopher's. We discuss Jason's faith journey, deconstruction, why the church is so opposed to (act

S2:E26 El Camino de Santiago with Jan & Ernest Taylor

Oct 20th, 2021 1h 4m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talked with two of Christopher's long-time friends, Jan and Ernest Taylor, about their experience walking the Camino de Santiago across Spain. Christopher and Maggie are spiritual directors that like tal

S2:E25 A Conversation with Kevin Baldesare

Oct 5th, 2021 1h 11m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie discuss talk to Kevin Baldesare about his faith journey, how his faith is so important in his life, and a bit about what his life is like as a gay Christian. Christopher and Maggie are spiritual director

S2:E24 The Uncontrolling Love of God: A Conversation with Dr. Thomas J. Oord

Sep 21st, 2021 1h 18m

Welcome back to Season 2 of Spiritual Directors Talking About Stuff. We're so glad you're here! We have so many great episodes lined up for you.Today, we have Dr. Thomas J. Oord who will talk to us about open and relational theology and the un

S1:E23 A Conversation with Sara Martin (Season Finale)

Jun 8th, 2021 1h 1m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie speak to Sara Martin who describes herself as an exvangelical. In this episode, Sara describes her faith journey that led her down the path of deconstructing her evangelical upbringing to where she is now

S1:E22 Women in the Church with Jenn McMillian

Jun 1st, 2021 1h 5m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie speak to Jenn McMillian. Jenn is the family ministry director at Buckhead Church (https://buckheadchurch.org/) in Atlanta, Georgia. We talk about Jenn’s journey as a woman in ministry.Christopher and Mag

S1:E21 Taking the Bible Seriously but not Literally, Part 2 (Final)

May 11th, 2021 53m 6s

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie discuss Marcus Borg's book Reading the Bible Again for the First Time: Taking the Bible Seriously, but Not Literally. Christopher and Maggie are spiritual directors that like talking about spiritual thin

S1:E20 Taking the Bible Seriously but not Literally, Part 1

Apr 27th, 2021 50m 23s

S1:E19 The Clergy & Laity Dichotomy with Jacob Theunisz

Apr 13th, 2021 59m

In this episode, Christopher and Maggie speak to Jacob Theunisz about the clergy and laity divide within the church. Jacob tells us about the original Greek words and what they meant, how the writers of the New Testament meant for them to play

S1:E18 Spiral Dynamics & Evolution of Consciousness

Mar 30th, 2021 1h 1m

In this episode, we talk about spiral dynamics. What is it? How does it help frame spirituality and evolution of consciousness? We discuss the stages of the spiral, their characteristics, and how we see this playing out in the world.Christophe

Bonus

S1:E17 Deconstructing God (Bonus Episode)

Mar 23rd, 2021 15m 12s

Christopher Eaker and Maggie Schlosser are spiritual directors that like talking about spiritual things. Spiritual direction is a listening ministry that creates a sacred space for you to listen to God, see where God is at work in your life, an