In this episode, Christopher and Maggie talk to Jason Elam, who hosts a podcast called Messy Spirituality, and is an author and good friend of Christopher's. We discuss Jason's faith journey, deconstruction, why the church is so opposed to (actually afraid of) deconstruction, and what is faith? We hope you enjoy the episode. 

Christopher and Maggie are spiritual directors that like talking about spiritual things. Spiritual direction is a listening ministry that creates a sacred space for you to listen to God, see where God is at work in your life, and grow in awareness of who you were created to be. We would love to hear from you! Email Christopher and Maggie at [email protected]. 

Resources mentioned in this episode:

Jason's Podcast https://messyspirituality.podbean.com/

Before Your Lose Your Mind, with a chapter by Jason, edited by Keith Giles 

Core vs Periphery: https://groupleaders.org/curriculum-feed/core-vs-periphery

Our ministries:

Christopher: Steppingstoneslife.com 

Maggie: Ravachministries.org