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getting involved in this year's midterm right

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okay to the news in last

3:57

week or so most election forecasters

3:59

have said that can all of the senate is now a

4:01

toss up the none other than

4:03

mitch mcconnell seems to agree

4:06

here's what he recently said to an nbc reporter

4:08

quote i think there's probably a greater

4:10

likelihood the how slips in the senate senate

4:13

races are just different their statewide

4:15

canada quality has a lot to do with

4:17

the outcome on sunday

4:20

donald trump the truth the truth

4:23

in response i

4:26

just isn't easy way to find his truest i've

4:28

obvious i'm not signing up for true the

4:30

someone read tweeters truths fulltime

4:33

yes getting and not merely yes i noticed

4:35

like people pluck up some of them out

4:37

there was like an account was like a bot account that was doing

4:39

it but then i think twitter shut that down because unlike

4:41

they don't have the whole point was to get rid of drone of the

4:43

law he owes angle still sort of rely on

4:45

reporters to just give you the truth once in

4:47

awhile i like i want to get those truths all

4:50

the time or time truth i want my true how far

4:52

we've come on this issue anyway here's

4:55

the here's this particular truth wider

4:57

, senators allow a broken down

4:59

hacked politician mitch mcconnell to openly

5:01

disparage hardworking republican candidates

5:04

he should spend more time and money helping

5:06

them get elected and less time helping

5:08

is crazy wife and family get rich and

5:11

famous us and western china as

5:14

, cast as as a tucked

5:16

former to his for transportation secretary

5:18

yeah he was talking about her all four years ago

5:20

and child yeah so yeah i guess he

5:22

turned on her because she's burn them she

5:24

called on him to resign cheaper the insurrection

5:26

him insurrection suppose that entered the violin insurrection

5:28

so that was nice and or why do you think

5:31

mitch said that said mean it

5:33

seems to me cracking if i'm wrong done

5:35

but roughly translates to i

5:37

don't blame roughly translates democrats to the senate display

5:39

trap and eighty as he recruited that's a

5:41

that's where i heard the visual gotta doesn't

5:43

just saying that way me that yards very

5:46

doesn't a he's he's pretty calculating god oh

5:48

every word and say about mitch mcconnell every

5:50

word could have easily said i feel good

5:52

or we'll see what happens in november we

5:54

are in fact showing even that a little

5:56

bit of insecurity

5:58

about the outcome is very unlike very unlike

6:00

him he wants to hang this around donald trump snack

6:03

if they lose and

6:06

he wants to blame him specifically for

6:08

the candidates the has endorsed in the senate

6:10

primaries who are now and most

6:12

of the nominees herschel

6:14

walker and blink masters dr

6:17

oz adam laxalt these raw

6:19

trump candidates yeah i think these comments

6:21

are probably the most directed at dr

6:23

oz a down in pennsylvania and hershel walker

6:26

in georgia but he's also mitch mcconnell's obvious

6:28

also probably not happy about

6:30

his super pac having to spend twenty eight

6:32

million dollars a worth of ads in

6:34

ohio to help out jd events in

6:36

jd of answer has been critical of mcconnell [unk] personally

6:39

a he called him out of touch with the base which

6:41

is fun i in twenty twenty two that means

6:44

i guess tool destroying the capital i'm

6:46

also eric schmidt a a republican

6:48

candidate in missouri and blake masters of

6:50

also suggested the mcconnell should no longer

6:52

lead the g o p so i dunno

6:55

i wonder if like bitches and like in the vibes isn't

6:57

like in the vibes yeah you probably don't get a m

7:00

they if they did take the senate i bet you don't

7:02

have a critical majority of trump of

7:04

his that would throw out mcconnell but it's getting

7:06

it'd getting be uncomfortable from uncomfortable com yeah it's getting

7:08

annoying trouble or i'm i'm do you think mcconnell's

7:10

right think what he says you'd actually

7:12

read the kinetic quality matters i

7:15

think is full quote was like maybe will tie

7:17

maybe they'll win maybe backup or maybe we'll

7:19

win it back up also like he's yes he's absolutely

7:21

right quality matters added you're seeing

7:23

that some these numbers for cigar herschel walker

7:26

er doctor are gorgeous fumbling their way to

7:28

yeah why one reason we the we know

7:30

canada quality matters in senate races is

7:32

that we've seen republicans miss

7:35

a chance to retake the senate

7:37

in two thousand and ten when

7:40

obviously republicans did really

7:42

really well in the house and took back the house was a horrible

7:44

year for being in the white house

7:46

democrats the along but

7:49

i have a had horrible candidates and in

7:51

twenty twelve they had a chance to when they blew it with

7:53

because they have he can it's like todd akin in missouri

7:56

are richard murdoch share an angle in nevada

7:58

chrissy know donald

8:00

that if you don't remember casino dot all as

8:02

she was running in and for senate in delaware

8:05

and one ever sees him for dancy yeah and

8:07

one of her as she had to come out and say i

8:09

am not a which allows a that was a thing

8:11

that our diverse twenty ten well

8:13

maybe i historic first apply happen and like the sixteen

8:16

hundred sisters are different

8:18

since i'm yeah todd akin

8:20

had some despicable comments about ray

8:22

horrible human yeah richard murdoch did as well

8:25

they are in an abortion there is those

8:27

two candidates that were saying horrible things but raven abortion

8:29

york rate out even remember who richard murdoch is

8:31

he ran in indiana as rupert

8:33

could have spread out with indiana republican state

8:35

and didn't and didn't win get so

8:37

, so that's happened to me to calm the republican party

8:40

has more so they think it happen again even when the political

8:42

environment is a better for republicans so

8:44

single market the new york times reported last

8:47

week that some the national republican

8:49

senatorial committee recently canceled

8:51

ten million dollars worth of plant advertising

8:54

in pennsylvania wisconsin in arizona

8:57

would you make that story still vested in a

8:59

bunch of very interesting fun

9:01

stories about the nrsc the national republican

9:03

senate committee in their spending the

9:06

new york times said they'd cut ten

9:08

million in as politico said they'd

9:10

cut thirteen point five million enough

9:12

cuts and then later in that in think

9:14

that same paragraph in the story said but a democratic

9:16

source said it was ten serve like ten bitchy

9:18

little side pointing to with a new york

9:20

times sourcing was but politico has

9:23

since august first the nrsc as

9:25

cut advise in pennsylvania seven

9:27

point five million the top

9:29

arizona three point five wisconsin two point

9:31

five and about one point five so

9:33

it's hard to know exactly what's happening

9:36

here so many different committees in such

9:38

money sloshing around obviously china

9:40

an ideal world you don't cause she

9:42

said as building cichlids this is less

9:44

than one hundred places go at the simple explanation

9:47

it's not gets i mean there's all the spin from

9:49

the nrsc in the peace that's like well

9:51

we're moving it from the independent expenditure

9:53

side which is the side that you can't coordinate

9:56

directly with the campaign's by law and to

9:58

do we're going to move some of it directly to besides

10:00

he we can coordinate with the campaign's

10:02

themselves better answers move

10:04

in money around here and there and all that conscious

10:07

but that's like you said the bottom line

10:09

is you don't you don't cut money see

10:11

those you don't cut spending argued with

10:13

the a couple of months out before the election

10:15

also presumably if you're buying ads

10:18

eight months out six months at a year out you can

10:20

get a better rate than at the very end when everyone's

10:22

trying to come in and that yeah prices got wilson

10:25

do know that the nrc is already spent thirty

10:27

six million and add so far the questions

10:29

so is a what can happen super pacs venegas mitch

10:31

mcconnell has issued super pac and he's done been

10:34

cast places peter deal is trying

10:36

to personally by the race or in arizona

10:38

and then he gave ten million dollars to jd vance

10:41

the really really fun part is this date

10:43

republican heat rick scott the irish

10:45

got the head of the nrsc on

10:47

in there was some stats and with the stories to the dscc

10:50

has nearly twice as much cash on hand as

10:52

the nrsc fifty three million to twenty

10:55

eight million basically the washing

10:57

poster the democrats are outspending republicans

10:59

by more than double in the arizona race or

11:01

two to one in nevada nearly tude wanted to that

11:03

i in for the one in ohio according to

11:05

some media tracking firms and then

11:08

vague and they say like it's not fund raising the republican

11:11

senate campaign is raised one hundred and

11:13

seventy three million but they're down to only

11:15

have twenty eight million last and they

11:17

also pointed out there bricks got caught

11:19

in released an ad featuring him like

11:22

himself himself think some of the most

11:24

unpopular things a republican to possibly

11:26

said so it's just i we

11:28

don't i don't know me the election the consensus

11:30

clearly as the nrc as poorly run

11:32

and that terrible organization users have to assume

11:34

that trump constantly fundraising

11:37

with these email alerts and him that i

11:39

was in reality siphoning awesome care of course

11:42

he is it's so funny the donald trump

11:44

is doing his like best fund raising

11:46

ever especially like after the f b i think to

11:48

he's not on the ballot spray nrc

11:51

they're having you're right they raised a bunch of

11:53

money they're having low dollar fund raising

11:55

issues like they're having trouble getting like

11:57

it's the five and ten dollar donations from the base

11:59

of the have relying on these like big billionaire donors

12:01

the super pac the when read that's their act

12:04

blue version they're down twelve percent in

12:06

two two vs que en yeah so instead

12:08

they don't either up give rick scott your money

12:10

and then he'll go on tv and tell people how he wants

12:12

to eliminate medicare and social security

12:14

and raise taxes on working class people as the great

12:16

here's a rabid ss because

12:18

we are imagine the most unappealing

12:21

man you can possibly think of just

12:23

like lord voldemort in a hat

12:25

for some reason and

12:27

then give him awful ideas that everly give

12:29

him the worst polling ideas that

12:31

you thought were buried in the mitt

12:33

romney paul ryan campaign and when you put him on

12:35

t the will bring him back for millions sets or

12:37

going to do that or farmland now lest

12:40

anyone worry the republicans are strapped for cash

12:42

or the time so it up with the story monday

12:44

that this ninety year old

12:46

manufacturing mogul i've

12:49

never heard of me either our a

12:51

side that know how were pronouncing

12:53

it mean is it like a like a bar class

12:55

like a bar or you spelled sort of like a bar class

12:57

cause or oh any pitch anyway i'm

13:00

he made a donation worth one

13:02

point six billion dollars

13:04

to a right wing group called the marble

13:07

freedom trust which is controlled by leonard leo

13:09

of the federalist society or

13:11

our alarmed where you about the story the

13:14

monastery that's like it's so complicated

13:16

and confusing that it's easy get lost to let me

13:18

give you that here's what you eat when earlier

13:20

you said right wing creep i

13:23

think you i soup and they left the federalist society

13:26

to move on to a new equally murky brothel

13:28

and he like sit on the board himself don't or i

13:31

am i going on or a board surfing on the posts

13:33

litter leo basically owns stock

13:35

in ah a huge

13:38

chunk of the right wing judges currently serving

13:40

anywhere in the country including supreme court justices

13:42

like robert alito score six cabinet

13:45

berets his buddies who clarence thomas

13:47

from back in the day clarence thomas ah

13:49

once called leonard leah the number three most

13:51

powerful person in the world jumped

13:54

azzoni will set aside set aside

13:56

powerful right wing organization and mary's

13:58

up sort of right wing zealous

13:59

corporate money in the in the

14:02

judicial branch

14:03

not a good cada do you have in your this winter

14:05

leo starts his new organization called the marble

14:07

freedom trust in may have twenty twenty

14:10

the nonprofit the donor don't

14:12

need to one hundred percent of the shares of a company i

14:14

think he started or own culture blight

14:16

who cares what it does and then the company

14:18

was sold to an irish conglomerate for one point six

14:21

billion so that means i think

14:23

the nonprofit pays no taxes on

14:25

sale i suspect it also means

14:27

of this original donor avoid any type

14:29

taxes on the sale for us i wonder if i

14:31

don't think he gets to write off the profits that

14:34

of the even write off donations to see for

14:36

his vs see threes yeah maybe

14:38

that is like whether or not that's the

14:40

case i just i go into the real bad

14:42

part is now they have one point six billion

14:44

dollars to spend on politics too bad voices the

14:47

campaign finance system is totally broken

14:49

right now leonard liao has well over

14:51

a billion dollars to to shovel at every

14:53

right wing cause that he wants and here's the

14:55

and me so much money you brought this up many

14:57

times because you're jane mayer fan and uva

15:00

and era de mer stuff and go might enjoy it it's us

15:02

it's not just that they're spending this money or that they can

15:04

spend his money on races rights they are going

15:06

to spend this on ah i'm institutions

15:09

policy think tanks right like

15:12

they're going to local races local

15:14

institutions media organisations

15:16

right like this is now the single largest

15:18

political donations in history

15:20

history one point six billion dollars

15:23

to cede this right wing

15:25

mega revolution all over the country

15:27

not just an electoral politics but in

15:30

every facet of every institution

15:32

you can imagine yeah ironically i'm

15:34

under the iris code these are called social

15:37

welfare organizations so

15:39

this is the make a it's just it's

15:42

really pretty scary israel much money

15:44

and it's so much my favorite one point four billion left

15:46

over to the do whatever they want with for

15:48

for

15:49

forever

15:50

the way to this is why we need to i'm the seventy

15:52

to win the elections here so

15:54

sigler the senate races and the quality of the republican

15:56

candidates are that seem to be worrying mitch mcconnell

16:00

we can just go through go through the map here just

16:02

to senate's currently split fifty fifty therefore

16:04

senate democrats are in competitive races georgia

16:07

center rafale warnock arizona senator

16:09

mark kelly nevada senator catherine

16:11

cortez master in new hampshire center

16:13

maggie half and how tight are

16:15

these races and would you think about the

16:17

republican opponent opponents stone a check

16:19

back in with their the five thirty a podcast

16:22

is when it's it's it's mostly it's that time

16:24

a year or mostly i wanted to year ago

16:26

and as like a totally straightforward question that

16:28

innate kind of get mad at the premise gas

16:30

or little passive aggressive sort of like have area

16:32

yeah now that there's a bitch to say have

16:35

added sixty percent chance to democrats

16:37

hold the senate are the odds in a house or worse

16:40

but improving so , want to

16:42

them one by one year ago new hampshire maggie

16:44

hasson doesn't have it upon yet so that republican

16:46

primary september thirteenth thirteenth the

16:48

same as paul near dirtier hundred

16:51

million on yeah i haven't had a forty

16:53

four percent approval so she is clearly vulnerable

16:56

the leading republican opponent is

16:58

a guy named dawn balder communities

17:00

name fraser trump big lie guy

17:02

he's on a right wing zealots if he

17:04

wins zealots think we have a good chance he's a retired

17:07

brigadier general who wants us

17:09

to be directly involved to be

17:11

war in ukraine and was you it's troops

17:13

on the grouch is on a gun shoots integrated you can recall

17:15

governor sununu a chinese communist sympathies has

17:18

wildly popular republican

17:20

gov chris sununu chinese

17:22

communist sympathizer he also by the way he doesn't

17:24

believe that people should get to directly like their senators

17:27

the wider appeal that you went through peel the seventy the most

17:29

of the humor the is where republic not a democracy

17:32

guy he wants the state legislature to pick the

17:34

senators so he by that said the last

17:36

year last voters for done bold like another these

17:38

guys are are worried about majority

17:41

rule for you can you can figure out

17:43

what's i'm always scary when the

17:45

just these right wing crazy zealots

17:47

our former the and roles

17:49

in the military a doesn't make me feel good yeah

17:52

he's this will allow i think a lot of sort of the republican

17:54

establishment in new hampshire the little worried

17:56

about him but obviously christened you know is not a

17:58

fan gov not fairly want

18:01

a state senate president yeah i'm so

18:03

that no but i think you're right like if he

18:05

is if he ends up and at winning their

18:07

primary and he isn't leading it right

18:09

now that i think husband has of his

18:11

has a much better shot yet is bribed

18:13

much mother player lean damn

18:15

are likely dumped yeah we go to ga ga

18:18

i mean worn off vs walker you guys

18:20

know that me five thirty it has warnock up couple

18:23

points forty six point two percent

18:25

to walkers forty four point four percent

18:28

is , hard what i mean look hers was

18:30

hers candidate there's also this

18:32

big statewide governor's race thing everyone to

18:34

be turned folks out the question i have

18:36

is

18:37

the i guess the democratic party's path to

18:39

winning the senate seat is he their higher

18:41

democratic turnout or republican split ticket

18:43

voters

18:44

the combo of both i don't know can happen

18:47

for some workers terrible you know we let read

18:49

read potok that we did a whole game about

18:51

her herschel walker and brian tampon i know in

18:53

our atlanta pod we

18:55

, all kinds of but herschel walker greatest hits

18:58

ah there's a new one now that we just got

19:00

over the weekend or he was asked what

19:02

the inflation reduction act act

19:05

he said i don't know a lot of money it's going to trees

19:07

don't we have enough trees around trees lot

19:10

of money is going to trees going is that

19:12

what was he thinking of rate is migration

19:15

was going on up there sours trump's by

19:17

the way that was trump's climate one that was so i planted

19:19

trillion trees or something literally that's awkward

19:22

for him and animals were no i think i saw

19:24

i did they for the wilderness had a focus

19:26

group in atlanta it was a focus group

19:28

of black voters who had voted for joe biden

19:30

and now either aren't sure who they're going to

19:32

vote for whether they're going to vote it

19:35

is sort of an upsetting focus group these people are there

19:37

for everyone i talked to there was very down on

19:40

politics of for a lot of good reasons you know

19:42

hey brian tamp to tide them over him

19:44

but like that weren't too happy with joe biden

19:46

bona fide about herschel walker as like anyone

19:49

maybe gonna vote for herschel walker what you think chris walker

19:51

they're like they're is stone cold fucking

19:53

crazy absolutely not and makes his

19:55

elbows yes and they're not like super

19:58

happy with or not but there are like we

20:00

end up going to vote we're going to vote for warnock and we're going

20:02

of up as they say like is really into incumbent

20:04

same going on at a across country yes

20:07

for sure for sure but walker was not yes

20:09

but what note know and light herschel walker get

20:11

scammed i'd so then we go to arizona

20:14

mark kelly and blake masters yeah

20:17

i miss i think the polls have consistently had

20:19

mark kelly ahead including

20:21

and republican polls masters is

20:23

a fairly recent nominee hadn't

20:25

had a lotta time i don't look kelly's great candidate

20:28

he got like cash is an astronaut i'm

20:30

just worried it though it a wacky state with a

20:32

wacky republican party and carry lake

20:35

running for governor on the americans that

20:37

i've yet i'm a little worried about you know

20:39

i think the kelly but yeah that the the

20:41

average of the polar it now has kelly much further

20:44

ahead than i thought it would be ah

20:46

he only won the state by you know was like two

20:48

and a half points in , twenty

20:50

and as and as two years ago and now the average

20:52

as i'm around you know a point three three

20:54

he just he's running ads about masters doesn't

20:57

mention trump doesn't mention peter tale as a mentor

20:59

all this like basically just has to have his

21:01

quotes one like master saying maybe

21:03

we should prioritise of security and the

21:05

other saying that he wants a nationwide ban on

21:07

abortion no exceptions and calling abortion

21:10

demonic yeah me maybe that's all he needs

21:12

i know read it it's a very like old school

21:14

feeling collection of issues that

21:16

have been important in collections for

21:19

decades yeah solving our and then he

21:21

got martelly running an ad with a republican mayor

21:23

endorsing him saying oh he you know

21:25

he's good with republicans and democrats which i know

21:27

like makes you know probably make some liberals

21:29

uncomfortable but it's like state like arizona martelly

21:32

has been with democrats and vote with democrats

21:34

and for with joe biden every every

21:36

step of the of unlike

21:38

you know his his his colleagues

21:41

new this and cinema says you're either the great democrats

21:43

oh yeah that's how you in arizona that's how

21:45

you in arizona catherine cortez master

21:48

nevada though five thirty

21:50

it has her at forty five percent yes

21:53

him at forty one percent is but

21:55

trafalgar the number those

21:57

guys whoever of a

22:00

republican polling firm who did

22:02

a better job i think of reaching trump voters

22:04

back in the day had lox

22:06

ah up three and their most recent poll

22:08

and it makes me worried me worried have i

22:10

would say before democrats

22:13

up i'm most worried about the nub

22:15

address yeah i'm too busy demographics

22:17

of the state

22:18

the challenges of incumbency she's

22:21

running i knew very local issues

22:23

she's running i'm like we got drought really funding

22:25

and the inflation reduction act which

22:27

gray message hopefully in the other

22:29

issue that she's been running on his abortion

22:32

because you know we detachment demographics in

22:35

nevada in it's been sort of inching towards the

22:37

republicans over the last several years but

22:39

nevada the very pro choice states and

22:41

cities and really hammering this

22:44

issue and issue also think she's you know she suffering

22:46

from my people don't know you have a high

22:48

profile on the senate right catherine cortez mesto

22:51

arm but yet adam laxalt the republican their

22:53

believes in the big lie big lie supporter

22:56

or he's called roe v wade a joke dan

23:00

pfeiffer called him the

23:02

conroy of nevada

23:04

political dynasty like that and then sure enough

23:07

catherine cortez moscow came out with an ad

23:09

where she basically has music that's like the

23:11

succession music isn't all

23:13

about laxalt and she calls him like son of a dc

23:15

lobbyist he was kicked out of an elite school he

23:17

was arrested for assaulting the cops but he still

23:19

got back into another elite school and she does

23:21

this basically the whole add is like dan

23:23

calling him conroy come to life and an hour i

23:25

love at night or that as a good at it's pretty

23:27

good but i think that's going to be at you know if you

23:30

can help but volunteer in help ah catherine

23:32

cortez master that can for super important thing that

23:34

the real tight one night so if

23:36

one of the senate democrats lose well

23:38

me to flip a republican see to hold

23:40

the senate if to lose will need to flip to and

23:42

so forth are best chances for flips

23:45

are in pennsylvania if where john fetterman

23:47

and doctor oz are competing to sell retiring

23:49

republican pat toomey seats in wisconsin

23:52

or mandela barnes lieutenant governor mandela barnes

23:54

is running against ron johnson

23:58

like down and i talked about eyes and said i'm in pod

24:00

homie do you think i'd rather zealander that

24:02

the debate has now moved from his crudity

24:04

outing to how many houses the having him if

24:07

, worst candidate i've ever seen so far doctors

24:10

i'm more own goals then a

24:12

i'd six year old soccer game

24:15

mind you i'm hinduism mission hinduism

24:17

because you're the opponent had a stroke

24:20

yeah he will literally off the plane go for months

24:22

i mean that the doctors could have been running on the state

24:24

owning every new cycle for months and months the

24:27

unbelievable said he was owned by the news that like

24:30

the media like to come back story people are paying

24:32

attention i feel good are

24:34

having ten houses is good

24:36

for him access but not knowing how many

24:38

houses you have or try to ride distinction between

24:41

how many homes you own and how meet property

24:44

you own that's called is digging your

24:46

own political grace john mccain famously

24:49

got ask how many houses do you own

24:51

during the two thousand a race on

24:53

the and i we ran ads on it

24:55

for a month a month a month this campaign to

24:57

say all of our best for

25:00

you mccains out of touch and romney's out

25:02

of touch hits with time the millionaire

25:04

of necessity says it's true

25:07

is something to amazing crude attack the

25:09

guys has been intimately you got some i guess he you

25:11

got some credit finally the great you deserve

25:13

on lifting up the crew to take video

25:16

and there's a buzz feed story that said that that noted

25:18

that you did that you tweeted it out the really

25:21

a yard see that yeah farm eliza

25:23

if you analyze i agree i don't think

25:25

our sweeting to there's a lot of credit

25:27

but if i am in this case is attached

25:29

to either there are many yes it worked so

25:31

they have now moved a lot of the forecasters have

25:33

moved pennsylvania from a toss up which

25:36

pennsylvania should always be a tossup it is an incredibly

25:38

close states but there because others

25:40

such a bad candidate in our entered

25:42

the fetterman campaigns credits because settlement isn't

25:44

a good candidate is and gave i moved it to lean the

25:47

in a lot of these forecasts beaten really good i mean

25:49

it in it again was so

25:52

impressive what settlements team

25:54

has done yes guess you'd been unable to come

25:56

campaign in in the past sediment

25:58

i think has been kind of like a one man band

26:00

going everywhere a meeting with everyone is one

26:02

turn out his own feel program right and

26:05

because he had a stroke he was unable

26:07

to to really campaign hard and his team

26:09

just filled the gap in such an impressive

26:12

way with all these great digital ads super

26:14

creative attacks on oz a great

26:16

use of their oppo file which you know

26:18

is voluminous yeah i'm there's lots of hits

26:20

to be had on doctorates but they deserve a ton of got it seems

26:22

like a fun campaign to be on a in wisconsin

26:25

there's only been to polls since

26:27

mandela barnes won the primary the fox

26:30

news poll has them up for marquette

26:32

has them up seven both pretty good quality

26:34

polls in you know and i'm

26:37

i think both had to admit fifty percent or

26:39

higher that's a giant i

26:41

we thought mauling to a biggest most

26:43

disastrous polling i now i nurseries

26:46

only want to think about it there there's also a big

26:48

governor's race the great stay

26:50

party in wisconsin but as you know

26:52

as you said to that there's an anti incumbent

26:55

mood out there and you have ron johnson

26:57

has just been sitting around you know they again

26:59

they elected ron johnson thinking like oh he's

27:01

sort of are independent minded businessman

27:04

that will go to washington whatever and he just has become

27:06

a fucking trump like he gets and a conspiracy

27:08

theorist and says all kinds of crazy shit all

27:10

the time such so you know

27:12

hopefully hopefully meant elements couple that up

27:15

or so there are also three other

27:17

races where democrats have a chance at flipping republican

27:19

seats tim ryan vs jd vance in

27:21

ohio valve damning sources marco

27:23

rubio in florida and sherry beasley

27:25

vs ted bud in north carolina so

27:27

much of alongside you think these are getting

27:30

, short answer is i don't know i would add one more which

27:32

is iowa we had arrived

27:34

in run against such grassley know i pondered

27:37

and forty years old and our to franken

27:39

had an impressive navy career ah

27:41

he spent much time in in eastern africa

27:44

taken out terrorists ride use the the guy

27:46

was born and raised in sioux city a things like one of nine

27:49

kids are still lives there stuff also

27:51

need to sing race we should keep an eye on ohio's

27:53

a really hard state trump got fifty three percent

27:56

and twenty percent and but tim ryan

27:58

has raised seven times the amount of money that jd

28:00

vance has so far jd vance you

28:02

might have noticed is a weirdo in

28:05

kind of a schmuck yet but i'm worried about

28:07

he announced super pacs riding to geez

28:09

rescue with a bunch of cash like mitch mcconnell just

28:11

did time we do a line from a charity

28:14

fundraising email that was dissented i guess

28:17

this point if i don't do a complete one eighty

28:19

on the fund raising front not only will i have

28:21

to possibly shut down my campaign but

28:23

republicans may never win another race

28:25

this year up

28:28

up up that is allow

28:30

visit been fun really emails or bad in

28:32

general both sides democrats wrote that

28:34

is one of the that that really

28:36

taken it to that new husband adam studio vance

28:39

like turning the sign from opened a clone

28:41

from the window in of leon a year maybe

28:43

shut down my campaign look i've been skeptical

28:46

this because you know trump one ohio fifty

28:48

three forty five that's a big margins a lot

28:50

of the ones that means there's margins has to be a lot

28:52

of tim ryan donald trump

28:54

voters get boy who voted for donald trump of

28:56

over tim ryan the same route a lot

28:58

of them for tim ryan to it now but

29:01

even as even as i explain this the

29:03

my in laws and l

29:05

m l i'm emily family and friends from ohio

29:08

and okay we

29:10

believe can i call them buckeyes or does that offend

29:12

them as not serve ohio state

29:14

or columbus people i don't know if we should be getting

29:16

into this value to people who are not

29:18

like i'm not the guy now i can't i can't added for

29:20

them on that tweeted but actually there's like

29:22

people in ohio who have a lot of faith

29:24

into mind he can pull this aren't and so are have

29:27

started to believe i said you're the one that

29:29

i really want to believe in his north carolina cause

29:31

five thirty eight has cherry beasley

29:34

i'm ted by tied she's

29:36

crushing him in fundraising i think it's

29:38

to the wine as of the june thirtieth

29:40

filing and i just my

29:42

soul i want north carolina to be a blue states

29:45

yeah obama kay hagan one state

29:47

widen in two thousand eight at a really get

29:49

what happened since yeah

29:51

i think what happens is they are in the in the trump

29:53

era they turned out to so many

29:56

the rural

29:57

exurban white voters who would

29:59

never or turned out before we just isn't

30:01

usually turn out before and so even

30:03

though it's a diverse fang state and it was

30:05

helping trending towards democrats sort of the

30:08

trump era brought it a little bit yeah i'm just

30:10

put it out of reach which was on the origin it a

30:12

but sure if easily a great candidate you know we interviewed

30:14

her here and and like i said it's it's tied

30:16

right now so yeah gotta look

30:19

i i'm ready for florida like listen

30:21

forties do you broke my heart so many times that

30:24

i did can't that you back in

30:26

i want cell damage to when i

30:28

think i am it was famously we hate

30:30

marco rubio but i wonder a marco rubio

30:33

as he sits around his house and

30:35

he puts on his like little as leisure outset

30:37

in his goofy hats a records

30:40

little videos there's

30:42

it poorly lit in a everything

30:44

about him screams i give i

30:46

don't want this job you will the only satisfying thing about

30:48

marco rubio is you know i'll never be present added states

30:50

and that's what is one or more than anything so it's comforting

30:53

to know they'll never see that

30:55

but i'd also like him to not bee jay's like a he's

30:57

a jb ted cruz but there's two hundred thousand

30:59

more republicans are register republicans

31:01

i think in the state than democrats know

31:04

i think i didn't powers that be harm on us but

31:06

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31:08

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31:10

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joining us now a longtime

35:02

friend of the plot who is now running to be the next

35:04

governor of texas better or rourke

35:06

that are welcome back hey

35:08

thanks for have any back good to see above right

35:11

you to ah you

35:13

ran statewide for senate and twenty eighteen

35:15

month democrats had the wind and are back it

35:18

came close returning texas blue than any candidate

35:20

decades they are you running for governor

35:22

in a political environment it's much tougher for

35:24

democrats what lessons

35:27

from twenty eighteen are you

35:29

applying to this campaign what's different

35:31

about this race and and what's different about

35:33

you the canada there

35:35

are a lot of good lessons on going

35:38

everywhere make sure that you talk to

35:40

and listened to every one right nobody

35:42

off tic no one for granted that

35:44

was a big take away for me from twenty

35:46

teen and it's something that were applying to

35:49

this race as well and so you'll

35:51

certainly see us and in houston and dallas

35:53

in austin and the kinds of places

35:55

you would expect a democrat to be because i want to

35:58

make sure i'm not taking any one for

36:00

granted and within those reliably

36:02

blue as were told counties were

36:05

trying to go to places where maybe democrats

36:07

haven't shown up because they just

36:10

taken these voters for granted and

36:12

often times that's black and brown voters

36:14

in texas but , to places

36:16

like like or madisonville

36:19

or wanna long

36:21

viewed texarkana even lubbock in amarillo

36:24

bigger communities that have

36:26

voted republican for last twenty

36:28

or thirty years shown

36:30

up and seeing that there are that lot of democrats

36:33

but also democrats lot of republicans and independents

36:36

who are looking for something better and

36:38

often having more people than we have

36:40

space in the halls of we've rented shows

36:43

me that there is that deep demands

36:46

the change in the state of texas that

36:48

that holds true from what we

36:50

saw in twenty teen only much

36:52

bigger this time in terms of changes

36:55

you know a mistake i made

36:57

in twenty team was assuming

37:00

that everyone understood

37:02

ted cruz and just how dangerous

37:04

this guy was or today just form

37:06

their opinion on this guy that loves him or

37:08

they hated him there's just can be little

37:10

that i could add to that

37:13

i now realize a lift a lot of votes

37:15

on the table or people who are working two

37:17

or three jobs to make ends meet the taken

37:20

care of their kids or their parents are just not

37:22

plugged in the way that may be unplugged

37:24

and or your plugin objects and

37:27

the candidate me in that case

37:29

needed to do a better job of prosecuting

37:32

the case on proves just just

37:34

the last that we were suffering from haven't this

37:36

guys are junior senator in

37:39

this race with abbott and making

37:41

sure everyone knows that when the lights went out

37:43

last february and more than seven

37:45

hundred of our fellow texans died when

37:48

your utility bills when up as up as forty

37:50

five bucks much more

37:52

than you were paying before that when a largest

37:55

drivers of inflation in the state

37:57

of texas your property

37:59

tax increase twenty billion dollars

38:01

cumulatively or last seven

38:03

years across the state of texas know

38:05

five the worst mass shootings in us history

38:07

and five years on this guy's watch this

38:10

is greg abbott's texas the extremism

38:12

on a total abortion ban with

38:14

no exception for rape or incest

38:16

turn his back on law enforcement and signing

38:19

a bill called permit was carry that did

38:21

away with our license to carry program

38:24

so no longer must you get a background

38:26

check or proficiency in the firearm

38:28

that you want to carry on our streets you're just free

38:30

to go out there fully loaded

38:32

with the public none the wiser

38:34

or the safer for it or make sure

38:37

every single texas voter knows

38:39

that this is greg abbott and by contrast

38:42

we can focus on the big things that bring us

38:44

together your world class public schools

38:47

expanding medicaid said he can actually

38:49

see a doctor in the least insured states

38:52

in , reversing some of this extremism

38:55

on abortion and or

38:57

gun laws and then just doing

39:00

stuff that invest in some of

39:02

these communities that have so long been

39:04

overlooked or forgotten because abbott

39:06

thinks he's got them in the bags who doesn't have to show

39:09

up or deliver for them a broadband

39:11

internet is is a great example across

39:13

texas we invest we

39:16

as an infrastructure as a technology as utility

39:19

we will unleash extraordinary economic

39:21

power so that's a big difference

39:23

from the way i ran in two

39:25

thousand and eighteen and yet allows us to build

39:27

on that base that produce the

39:29

largest voter turnout in texas history since

39:31

nineteen seventy had the largest

39:34

young voter turnout probably ever was up

39:36

five hundred percent from the previous midterm

39:39

election and the we didn't win a

39:41

lot of democrats got over the line that night and eighteen

39:43

twelve new state house wraps to

39:46

new members of congress it slipped control that

39:48

institution and and terrorist counting on

39:50

the houston seventeen black women got

39:52

elected to judicial position so

39:54

that was a transforming of election we

39:57

held all that ground john and saw me

39:59

in into

39:59

the twenty we didn't lose a single seat

40:02

or position we didn't gain as much

40:04

as i think we should have and twenty twenty but it's

40:06

shows that that bases solid now

40:08

we get to build on top of that

40:10

yeah new as you enter either way and when

40:12

i say we're winning sent grammy i think

40:15

no one would ever accuse you of not working hard

40:17

or not shown up or not go and all these places on

40:19

think i joe biden got these these gas prices under

40:22

control or us your campaign will be literally

40:24

bankrupt let's talk about gun control from

40:26

it because you this past summer

40:28

in congress in washington

40:30

the past the first gun control law in decades

40:32

and that even the authors of the bill would concede

40:35

that they wish it did a lot more but

40:37

i was wondering what you made of that law

40:40

especially given how extreme gov

40:42

abbott is pushing for permit with cary with sounds

40:44

like kinda the worst idea worst idea ever imagine

40:46

being a center murphy in some be at a sponsor the bill

40:49

their theory of the cases basically let's prove

40:51

this was passed this law would get something done

40:53

on a bipartisan basis improve

40:55

that the and or a can't make us pay

40:57

a political price and the try to build on that success

41:00

and when if you agree with that

41:02

i am so impressed with

41:04

senator murphy and others who worked on that

41:06

but this guy has been so

41:08

persistent over the last decade

41:11

and never been deterred

41:13

never despaired never gave up and

41:16

and i think is proving that progress as

41:18

possible and is the first to say what

41:20

he's been able to bring the table and get the

41:22

present to sign is wholly insufficient

41:25

to the challenge we face and yet it's

41:28

proof that this work pays off and it's one

41:30

step among many we have

41:32

yet to take i think that is not lost

41:34

on the people of texas on that families

41:37

and you've algae were now thirteen weeks

41:39

since nineteen kids were slaughtered in

41:42

that classroom along with their to teachers

41:44

kids whose bodies could only be identified

41:47

by the shoes that they were wearing doctors

41:49

who saw those kids afterward and talked about

41:52

how that high impact high velocity round

41:54

literally liquefied the soft

41:56

tissue that had met in their bodies

41:58

or are in their head those

42:00

families and they are republicans or democrats

42:03

or folks in some cases have never been

42:05

politically engaged before to

42:07

a person want us to

42:09

take action and make change and ensure

42:11

that no other family has to go through

42:14

what they're experiencing right now what though

42:16

frankly live with for the the rest

42:19

their lives so that was cause

42:21

for hope for us here in texas because you're right

42:23

you know abbott's may have only made

42:25

things worse after sutherland

42:28

springs in santa fe high school and middle of

42:30

doesn't el paso now you valley

42:32

by signing permit with carry in the law

42:35

but there's an answer to that and that is

42:37

all of us we can change the person in

42:39

power and have someone who will work

42:41

on things like at least raising the minimum

42:43

age of purchased from eighteen to twenty

42:45

one that mayor and ivaldi who had

42:47

words for me when i showed up at that press

42:49

conference the day after that

42:52

shooting he and his council members

42:54

unanimously sent a letter

42:56

from the ivaldi city council to greg abbott

42:58

saying hey please call a special session

43:00

and just raise the minimum age no reason

43:03

this guy at eighteen years old could

43:05

buy not one but two way off the teens

43:07

hundreds of rounds of ammunition perfectly

43:10

legally send our such signal that

43:12

his friends call them the school shooter before

43:14

he ever walked into the school we can

43:16

do better than is so that it to show that

43:18

common ground between republicans

43:20

and democrats demonstrates that this

43:22

is possible but we're going to need political

43:25

leadership that will do this abbott's

43:27

called a special session to go after trans kids

43:29

to go after critical race theory

43:31

to make it harder to vote in texas cannot

43:33

be bothered to call special session to

43:35

save the lives of kids and most

43:38

kids in texas have already started

43:40

that twenty twenty two twenty twenty three school

43:42

year and literally not a thing

43:44

has changed to make it less likely

43:46

that they'll be shot in their classrooms just like

43:49

those kids in ivaldi earth's santa fe high

43:51

school are so many others across the

43:53

state of texas one

43:55

trend that we saw in the twenty thousand election

43:58

a shift towards publicans

44:00

among

44:02

latino voters both nationally

44:04

and in texas especially working

44:06

class latino voters in more rural

44:08

areas around the rio grande valley what

44:11

do you hear him when you go to some of those communities

44:14

because obviously one obviously one is people

44:17

who just haven't voted before another

44:19

issue with people who had voted for democrats but

44:21

you know decided i'm going to now vote for republicans

44:24

and what are you would you hear from those voters

44:26

and what are you saying them to to what you think to them to

44:28

persuade them to or to give yourself

44:32

when i asked you want to listen your weather

44:34

here in el paso or down

44:37

in the rio grande valley or along

44:39

the texas mexico border it is

44:41

overwhelmingly the economy and give

44:43

you an example in , eagle

44:45

ford shale if you have one of those

44:47

great oil and gas jobs you

44:50

are making sixty bucks an hour if

44:52

you don't you're don't food stamps donald

44:55

trump and twenty twenty had an incredibly

44:57

powerful simple compelling argument it

44:59

was just jobs and specifically

45:01

it was oil and gas jobs in south

45:03

texas biden unfortunately

45:05

did not cover message at least not one that

45:07

was heard in south texas there

45:09

was no money spent by that campaign

45:12

and republican showed up and they were hungry

45:14

and democrats literally this is twenty

45:17

twenty it was a pandemic and so i understand

45:19

excuses but democrats literally

45:21

phoned in the work republicans

45:23

were on the door they were they were hungry

45:25

they they really wanted this and regardless

45:28

of ideology or or partisanship

45:30

or any other saying and and all those

45:33

can be important i always give

45:35

it to the gal or the guy who's

45:37

gonna work harder than than the other person

45:40

i've shown up now seven times in the

45:42

rio grande valley as you all know not the easiest

45:44

part of texas to get to or

45:46

show up to do big public

45:49

town hall meetings all comers welcome no

45:52

holds barred anyone ask any questions asked

45:54

the english ask in spanish talk

45:56

about the things that are most important to people

45:59

and when we do we make since on the economy

46:01

where greg abbott's shut down

46:03

all trade on the us mexico border for more

46:05

than a week earlier this year and it just

46:07

hammered the shit out of these

46:10

communities import export businesses

46:12

literally their ,

46:14

dried out and moved to new mexico and

46:17

to arizona two thirds of the produce

46:19

that we consume in texas was on

46:21

those bridges literally just rotting

46:24

in the back of those trucks that's not

46:26

lost on those voters there but to the point

46:28

i was making earlier about prosecuting the case

46:30

i can't just assume that people will

46:32

make those connections i've got a be

46:35

there to say greg abbott did this

46:37

to your community and here's what i propose

46:39

to do do different not

46:41

only am i going to support us mexico trade

46:43

we're gonna raise the minimum wage from seven

46:45

twenty five words still is today to

46:48

fifteen bucks an hour going expand medicaid

46:50

because you live in the least insured

46:52

part of the least insured states in

46:55

america we're going to make sure

46:57

that we invest your public schools because your teachers

46:59

and counselors are making are fraction of

47:02

what their counterparts across the nation are making

47:04

nation believe making you i'm going to invest going you

47:06

have heard you were going to partner with you

47:08

and follow your lead and it really does seem

47:11

to be paying off or whatever

47:13

polls matter today not

47:15

only we polling better than abbott in

47:17

these communities were pulling better than biden did

47:19

and twenty twenty arm and though

47:21

he did worse than clinton did not

47:23

communities arm he was doing far better

47:25

than his do a now so i'm it's

47:28

that that's a fairly low bar that we

47:30

passed now he really does have to build

47:32

on it that's why i'm going back on the first

47:34

of september to and bird in brownsville

47:37

we just learned i hope as a party

47:39

you just can't take any one for granted

47:41

a note no one's yours for life regardless

47:44

how they voted before the color of their skin

47:46

any other identifying characteristics that would

47:49

differentiate themselves from anybody else

47:51

you've got to go out there and fight for them and so the

47:53

only way i know to do it maybe not the most sophisticated

47:56

ways to show up in person be

47:58

there listen of folks and try to are

48:00

not vote in i think that's what we're doing

48:02

so i imagined or what you're talking about

48:05

greg abbott on on gun laws and how extreme

48:07

he has been or continued to be gathered

48:10

yeah extreme policy position

48:12

it's been we've been hearing about from texas for

48:15

awhile has been anti abortion

48:17

activists passing these draconian bills that

48:20

, more of a direct threat

48:23

to everyone in the state when supreme court

48:25

dot season came down added that decision

48:28

impact what you're talking about

48:30

and what you're hearing from voters and whether it is or isn't

48:32

motivated people these are starting to see you know us

48:35

are instances like in kansas

48:37

where folks are coming

48:39

out because they don't want the government's

48:41

restricting the kind of health care when they can get

48:44

yeah so it's so important

48:46

the remember that fifty years ago half a century

48:49

go abortion was just as illegal

48:51

in texas then as it is

48:53

today and it was texas women

48:56

who ended up

48:57

delivering for texas women so jane

48:59

roe as your nose at texas woman but her to

49:02

attorneys sarah weddings and and linda

49:04

coffee who still lives in dallas

49:06

texas successfully prevailed

49:08

upon an all male united states supreme

49:11

court to win protection for the

49:13

right to privacy to make these very personal

49:16

and painful decisions texas women came

49:18

through nineteen seventy two nineteen

49:20

seventy three i'm confident texas

49:22

women are going to come through in two thousand and

49:25

twenty two and i see it wherever we go

49:27

i mentioned in in greenville in

49:29

in hunt county and you don't unless

49:32

you're from their you're you're not

49:34

pass them through their yet you have to it's if

49:36

you have to wanna go to greenville or hunt county to

49:38

be there we had a gym for

49:40

for five hundred people reese capacity

49:43

three hundred more waited outside

49:45

and waited guarantee of those eight hundred folks coming

49:47

out greenville or not they are primarily

49:50

to see me or to rally for the democratic

49:52

party they are there to fight

49:54

for and work and change and

49:56

that dobbs decision the total abortion

49:58

ban with notes for rape no

50:01

exception for incest in the state of texas

50:03

at starts at conception in

50:05

a state that has won the highest rates of maternal

50:07

mortality in the world because as

50:09

you foreclosed options to seek an abortion

50:12

you've also turned them away

50:14

for cervical cancer screenings

50:16

family planning help just to see any kind

50:18

of doctor at all people are

50:20

meeting the moment and it's and it's

50:22

of the very silver

50:25

linings i guess in this really dark

50:27

sky that's descended over the state of texas

50:30

it is people aren't haven't it and are going to do

50:32

everything they have to do in

50:34

order to change it and i do think we saw

50:36

that in kansas i know

50:39

that i'm seeing that on the ground across the state

50:41

of texas right now and you better believe

50:43

that will show up in the

50:45

votes counted on the night of november

50:48

eighth i mean the polls have a civil quinnipiac

50:50

says five downs other say to

50:52

down other say seven don't know we're probably

50:55

somewhere around there but i don't

50:57

know that polling can measure

51:00

the anger the deep drive

51:02

of the work ethic the people in texas have

51:04

this gonna produce the victory that

51:07

i know we're going to see on a night in november eight

51:09

this decision extremism

51:11

of greg abbott of can have a lot to do

51:13

with the result that we see

51:15

somehow the middle of his campaign you manage read

51:17

a book about voting rights called that

51:19

we've got to try it

51:22

seemed as if people who care

51:24

about voting rights national in especially in texas

51:26

haven't had haven't lotta celebrate lately speaking

51:28

of dark clouds then you

51:30

know one of the more pernicious effects of voter

51:33

suppression that it makes people

51:35

think why even

51:37

bother the system is

51:39

so rigged white was raven do this or

51:41

would you say would you say to them

51:44

yeah i started this book about two years

51:46

ago trying to answer that question

51:48

because resist temptation to despair

51:51

very understandable given the

51:53

attack on women's reproductive

51:55

rights the lgbtq community in a state

51:58

of texas at the fact that are electricity

52:00

grid does not work when it gets too

52:02

cold and and literally people freeze

52:05

to death in the energy capital of the world

52:08

the , i see it these things would not be

52:10

happening if more people

52:12

have the ability to vote if more

52:14

voices were heard this this is not a reflection

52:17

of the majority of us or who

52:19

we are at our core as

52:21

texans this is the product of a

52:23

very rigged system where seven

52:25

hundred and fifty polling places have enclosed

52:27

in the last decade almost twice

52:30

as much as the next closest state i'm

52:32

you know a gerrymandered system

52:34

based on race were black and brown texans

52:37

are drawn out of a congressional district

52:39

to minimize not only the power of their

52:41

vote but john to your point the likelihood that

52:43

they will that they will vote at

52:45

all and so against that i wanted to

52:47

know what can we do and

52:49

by looking at texas history and specifically

52:52

this extraordinary story of specifically guy named lawrence

52:55

nixon black physician who lived in el paso

52:58

more than one hundred years ago i learned

53:00

that not only can we overcome

53:02

this attack on democracy voting rights we've

53:05

overcome it before against much

53:07

greater odds this guy was fighting against

53:09

the white primary nineteen twenty three

53:12

the state legislature here said if you're

53:14

black you can't vote literally like

53:16

know how me jelly beans or in the jar

53:19

or here's a literacy test or quote

53:21

the state constitution just in black

53:23

and white for be aid african americans

53:26

from political participation this

53:28

guy fought it he said

53:30

i've got to try when try when told

53:32

that he could not vote one to

53:34

signal supreme court victories finally

53:37

one integration and forty four

53:39

and it's set the path for the first

53:41

texas president l b j to

53:43

sign of voting rights act into law

53:45

nineteen sixty five so it's an extraordinary

53:48

story and it happens here in texas

53:50

which again today the epicenter

53:52

of voter suppression of voter intimidation

53:55

the top estate in the nation in

53:57

which to both toughest in which to read sir

54:00

and yet that the nap to be or future or our faith

54:02

we can change that but it's gonna take extraordinary

54:05

courage really tireless

54:07

work and it's gonna take a lot of people and

54:10

thankfully in his campaign as

54:12

an example we got eighty three thousand folks

54:14

who volunteered to take cs knocking

54:16

on doors registering people to

54:18

vote having conversations with

54:21

folksy been the very targets for suppression

54:24

and intimidation so the stories in this book

54:26

or stories of people like lawrence next

54:28

and or opal lead on who walked

54:30

from fort worth texas is now ninety five

54:32

years old to wash and d c

54:34

to prevail upon know first

54:37

president obama and then president biden

54:39

members of congress to make june

54:41

tenth the first federally recognized

54:43

holiday inn in decades

54:46

and a holiday that recognizes the work

54:48

it's taken place but also the work

54:51

left to be done so some pretty inspiring

54:53

people here in texas to remind

54:55

us that we can do this because we've we've

54:58

done it before so i hope that people read

55:00

the book takes some inspiration

55:02

from these stories as stories haven't and put

55:04

in the work to make sure that we come through

55:06

manucho bad phone up that like hopeful

55:08

optimistic question with this dark shit

55:11

for me but the , of

55:13

like have a good things you're trying to put into the

55:15

world is a lot of what we're hearing your conservative

55:17

media which is increasingly

55:20

conspiratorial and sometimes violent rhetoric

55:22

i'm it's tucker carlson show was just

55:24

like agitprop about the great replacement

55:26

series that's led the real world violence

55:29

trump's i inspiring supporters

55:31

to to attack the f b i both rhetorically

55:33

and then someone actually took them up on it

55:36

in in i'm in ohio i

55:38

see videos of your events where you're out there on out

55:40

road you're trying to talk to people

55:42

and like bring people together be asa folk shown up

55:44

with air fifteens baby to protest

55:46

maybe just the kind of the intimidating

55:49

what if you're on the front lines of what of what it feel

55:51

like out there are you concerned

55:53

about the where the rhetoric is going are you concerned

55:56

about i don't know the safety of politicians

55:58

were like to try and do the

55:59

dot

56:02

yeah i mean i'm concerned about all this i

56:04

i think the you all see

56:06

this and feel it my think any than

56:09

anybody looking at this country today

56:11

the be able to see it certainly the history books written

56:14

in of decades from now we'll watch the

56:17

little straight desert or demonstrate that this

56:19

is of a defining moment of truth

56:21

for us we're about to either

56:23

save and restore this democracy or

56:26

lose it forever and and i don't

56:28

know a better way to put it and i

56:30

guess second sound dark that the other way to

56:32

look at it is i mean how many generations

56:35

the great fortune to fight for the

56:38

right to vote and is democracy a

56:40

mean no johnson a net amazing

56:42

speech and sixty five where he's

56:44

been inspired by john lewis who was

56:46

nearly killed crossing the edmund pettus

56:48

bridge says look at ,

56:51

at appomattox and now and selma

56:54

selma all of us fighting for

56:56

this right to vote this great democracy

56:59

great i'm laying that

57:01

charge a fee to the members of congress like look

57:03

you you walk in do something about this and

57:06

by the summer of the year he

57:08

was able to get an almost all white

57:10

congress including many significant

57:12

senators and house members from the south

57:15

to expand the franchise and create

57:18

the first through multi racial democracy

57:21

in american history we

57:23

we're a generation now that has that

57:25

fight before us as there's

57:28

did overcoming jim crow and

57:30

in his book we got to try

57:32

tell the story about what happened

57:34

in texas posts reconstruction were

57:37

african american still held elected

57:39

office still nominally were

57:41

were able to vote and came

57:43

up against you know kind of the the precursor

57:46

to the ku klux klan in

57:48

the state of texas these aren't vigilantes

57:50

who would go in and literally steal the

57:52

votes at polling locations

57:54

very reminiscent in some ways to me

57:56

of what happened on january six two thousand

57:59

and twenty one the legitimate

58:01

, decided elections and

58:04

this very violent white minority

58:07

or would would come in and literally

58:09

steal the ballot box box

58:12

people open violence and

58:14

and civil strife and some these counties in counties

58:17

and then united and congress and

58:20

very well meaning people catch

58:22

wind of this whole these hearings investigated

58:25

come up with and elections bill not unlike

58:28

the one that we have on the table right now and

58:30

united states congress that will allow

58:32

for federal protection for

58:34

voting rights in the states the former confederacy

58:36

and throughout the rest of the country for that matter and

58:39

you have this pro democracy part of the republicans

58:41

at the time they have a majority in the house they

58:44

have a majority the senate they just elected

58:46

a guy who ran in part on a platform

58:48

of protecting the rights to

58:50

vote and ennis elections bill

58:52

passes the house it's gonna pass the

58:54

senate and it gets hung up it

58:56

a filibuster and they're

58:59

unable to get it done this is by eighteen ninety

59:01

and for you wait seventy five years

59:04

until nineteen sixty five and lbj building

59:06

on the work of lords nixon turret

59:08

to truly realize that opportunity that was present

59:11

back and eighty ninety part of the message

59:13

from this book is we may be at and eighteen

59:15

ninety moment where if we don't

59:17

get our act together and save this

59:19

democracy how many decades will we

59:21

be and in the darkness again or

59:24

will we ever get it back at all so

59:26

that that's that's why use that the language

59:28

that i'm using i think this is a now or never

59:30

moment i don't know that you get a two thousand

59:32

and twenty four and was you come through

59:35

big in two thousand and

59:37

and twenty two because t to your point

59:39

tommy there are people in

59:41

positions of power and now running for

59:44

greater power who deny that

59:46

was that the legitimacy of the last presidential

59:48

election and i guarantee

59:50

you will deny the legitimacy of that the

59:52

dot the legitimacy of the vote if

59:54

their candidates don't prevail in

59:57

vote if elections we gotta win

59:59

this one this time and no

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the state of texas is the epicenter of

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book that no one was waiting for nobody

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is now available for purchase it's called breaking

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history a white house memoir by thomas

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favorite public servant jared kushner it

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, for some reason for hundred ninety two pages

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pages say religious foreign

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aid to basis what i mean

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what he was an advisor in the white house for four years

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would it be writing for for an eighty two pages it's

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receive one of the worst book reviews i've ever read

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the new york times which called it solace

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and then goes on to say a christian

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or looks like a mannequin and he writes like one

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that's one of their nicer lines com he would you like

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to share some of your favorite parts i know you've been waiting

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long time for the yeah listen so

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here it is the worst he

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bought his way into harvard he married his way

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into power and now he's trying to go straight

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his way into the stores you wants written about himself

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and i just don't agree and let him

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you that this i think was my favorite

1:04:50

a paragraph in this book review who wrote this book

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review we do look she will fast googling

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you're really get this person the credit they

1:04:57

deserve the arm this

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book is like a tour of a once majestic

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eighteenth century wouldn't house now burn

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to sound asians the focuses solely

1:05:05

on and rejoices and what's left

1:05:07

amid the ashes the to synced bathtubs

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the gravel driveway and the mailbox and

1:05:13

, goes on to say reading this book reminded

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me of watching a cat like a dogs i

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give give such as

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, is alisha i must

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my favorite part is it lists the

1:05:24

review talks about how jared recalls

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every drop of praise yes is ever

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received such as the

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these lines are in the book you deserve

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an award for all you've done jared

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the genius i've been in washington

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a long time and i must say jared is one of the best

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lobbyists i've ever seen and this the

1:05:42

book reviewer goes on to write a therapist

1:05:44

might call these cries for help as i love that it's

1:05:47

by the way the reviewer is an individual

1:05:49

named dwight garner and

1:05:51

i've been writing meet a book reviews for the new york times for

1:05:53

quite awhile since two thousand and i won't say dwight you're

1:05:56

brilliant writer the he didn't make a point towards

1:05:58

the end that i really captures

1:06:01

jared to and and have useless he isn't

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general because you look like he's not they're

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not going to impress any

1:06:08

like moderates are democrats

1:06:10

are good not yet no one likes it just not like

1:06:12

an intellectual heavyweight by any means

1:06:14

likes of who is this book for it's certainly

1:06:17

not for the mega base either because they don't

1:06:19

trust him right they like their don jr

1:06:21

the like donald trump or than a like jared kushner to

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he ended up calling him he says he's a pair

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of dimples without a demographic as beautiful

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it's i think that is true third there's a silver

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utter lack of self awareness as a description of

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i'm breaking up with ivanka and then

1:06:35

getting back together and it's going

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down on of rupert murdoch's yacht

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they say they're having lunch at banos

1:06:42

house and some town and the french riviera

1:06:44

rupert stepped out to take a call

1:06:47

the walked back and whisper something in my

1:06:49

year about buying the wall street journal many like after

1:06:51

lunch billy joel loss been with us on the boats

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played the piano while bano sang with the irish

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singer songwriter bob geldof

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for his last jedi like gears occupying

1:07:00

this world of do you just hang

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out with seventy year olds or the one yeah i mean yeah

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i think you saved by the murdoch like like

1:07:07

his father-in-law

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it's pretty he the

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though i may need to do the whole middle east peace

1:07:12

things have no got a good idea fuck him immediately

1:07:15

give him credit for they'd only the middle east doing

1:07:17

middle east peace and a palestinian state

1:07:20

and so pissed off at how this is gun

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bastard eyes twisted by sociopath

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like you do you guess

1:07:27

you get autocrats in the way he

1:07:29

that cut a deal with the israeli

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government and we pay them off with some weapons

1:07:34

a some middle east peace the key to see can't trade

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agreement it's always trump as bad trump

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as bad of abraham records one of the greatest

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and billie move the greatest accomplishments of the twenty

1:07:43

first century and you just can't even give it the kind

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of acknowledgement of to there's i hope that you in bed

1:07:48

read that part of the book allowed on

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pods if the world about his exploits

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massive think us been suffer by the like two

1:07:54

hundred pages i've been trying to kick around

1:07:56

an idea though back

1:07:59

in the day we had what about some fun bets on

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the show me know we had like the awesome blossom

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or whatever and you others says you think

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so what year we were forced to i'm were

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forced to tweet things are young

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and stairwell yes yeah was really get a well i

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wanted to put forward and idea

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for a competition where we may

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be crowdsourcing or maybe pick amongst ourselves

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the worst political biography in the

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loser has to read and write like a two page book

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reports john

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and ah john have been resisting

1:08:28

this idea ,

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they're functionally illiterate unless it's and

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was a tweet stuck i don't know what will how to how do you

1:08:34

lose this what what is the game you've never

1:08:36

some i don't know an uglier was have a real adding on

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tommy here races around with tommy

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wants to write a two page book heard

1:08:43

about jared kushner his book and he's looking for

1:08:45

a device to get himself to the point

1:08:47

where he can write that and he's so he's backed

1:08:49

into this competition than what i'm ready to compete

1:08:52

it's you wanted to predictions well we predict

1:08:54

the midterms you know out of print i know the vote

1:08:56

for not for ten and then of you guys

1:08:58

come up you'll have a little shown maybe there's a contest

1:09:00

that we the medicine with can now feel obligated

1:09:02

to have the rosier prediction is my own upset

1:09:04

anybody you know if i went to their campaign

1:09:06

or them when to the dan pfeiffer the biggest optimists

1:09:09

now dean's run around telling iran the democrats are

1:09:11

along i don't lock on i don't like to dance

1:09:13

with as often as as often has to come to us again

1:09:16

as we lost and and as as up people complain

1:09:18

about nepotism i'm the one who got the steel

1:09:20

here that's been my favorite thing as gotta

1:09:23

be a trunk one i mean it

1:09:25

the most and from sounding quote

1:09:27

in the history of record saying trunk jared

1:09:29

kushner i agree i'm going to be really sad if bunch

1:09:31

of people buy this book don't buy this but there was also

1:09:33

are you by peter navarro the

1:09:35

former traded eyes are they took it down not a fan

1:09:38

of jared many of the trump or were

1:09:40

not fans of jared and made people worked in our house

1:09:43

it was number one on amazon today i know i

1:09:45

know i wasn't gonna bring that up but ah well

1:09:47

look the truth sometimes hurts i do think

1:09:49

you can easily kind of juice those numbers

1:09:52

like there's no listened jared kushner just

1:09:54

god

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the two billion dollar cheque

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from the saudi government

1:09:59

there's little investment fund despite never

1:10:02

having invested money before he will be

1:10:04

getting probably a two percent management

1:10:06

see and that money and then if he invests

1:10:08

it and makes a profit faggot twenty percent

1:10:10

of this profit south what i'm saying is

1:10:12

he's a shitty little rich kid sitting on a ton of saudi

1:10:14

money now i would shocked

1:10:17

if jared didn't buy himself

1:10:19

for have some and by for him a couple

1:10:21

thousand yeah copies of this

1:10:24

book to the stuff nope you know yeah

1:10:26

we tarantino we have authors on the show

1:10:28

we've we've we push books on the show this

1:10:31

don't buy this book if any then go tell your friends

1:10:33

don't buy this book and then have them tell their friends don't buy this

1:10:36

spread the word the abbey hoffman still

1:10:38

this but to just no

1:10:40

one no one needs to read this book you know you national

1:10:42

or anything anyway thank you to jared for

1:10:44

writing for writing he could read that review because

1:10:47

i was very enjoyable rarity about i do

1:10:49

i garner so i grunted come on you know if we've

1:10:51

never have you anything that any by the review

1:10:53

up thank you to better iraq for joining us today

1:10:56

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