Melissa Murray guest hosts as Donald Trump kinda, sorta mounts a defense in the rapidly moving criminal investigation into his habit of illegally storing highly classified documents at his beach house. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre joins to discuss President Biden’s huge and long awaited decision to cancel up to $10,000 in student debt, and Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs joins to talk about her campaign for Governor.

For a closed-captioned version of this episode, click here. For a transcript of this episode, please email [email protected] and include the name of the podcast.