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I'm your host Monica Reinagle and today
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I have a round of applause for
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the up of answers to questions sent in
2:02
by listeners over the past several months. If
2:04
you've sent me a question, you might hear
2:07
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2:09
question for a future episode, you can email
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can also leave me a message at 443-961-6206. So our
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first question today is from Gwyn, who
2:22
wrote, I have been vegetarian for
2:25
about three years. I eat a lot
2:27
of plant-based meats, and I
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wonder if they are actually healthy or
2:31
not. I want to eat
2:33
less processed foods, and I'm thinking that
2:36
plant-based meats could be
2:38
just a really fancy processed food.
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Well, Gwyn is absolutely correct that it
2:43
does take an awful lot of processing
2:45
to turn a soybean or a wheat
2:47
kernel into something that resembles
2:50
ground beef or Italian sausage.
2:53
Even so, the impact on
2:55
the environment is still
2:57
lower than raising animals for
2:59
food, and obviously no animals
3:01
are harmed in the process.
3:04
For a lot of people, eating more processed
3:06
food is a price that
3:08
they are willing to pay in exchange
3:10
for not consuming animal products. Now, of
3:13
course, you don't have to eat fake meat at
3:15
all, but a lot
3:17
of people find these products useful in
3:19
transitioning to a diet that includes less
3:21
or no meat. If
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reducing your consumption of processed foods
3:26
is also a priority, you could
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start by cutting down on highly
3:30
processed snacks, desserts, and
3:33
beverages, because unlike
3:35
plant-based meats, these usually
3:37
aren't adding much nutrition to your
3:39
diet. And unlike
3:41
processed snack foods and sweets, plant-based
3:44
meats are less likely to trigger
3:46
overeating. But there's no
3:48
need to get overly dogmatic
3:50
about avoiding processed foods. Some
3:52
types of food processing are
3:55
actually quite beneficial, rendering
3:57
nutritious foods even more
3:59
digestible. or extending their shelf
4:01
life. And
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Julie wrote in with a question about
4:06
the dietary guidelines for vegetarians. She said,
4:09
do you agree with the serving size
4:11
and quantities given on
4:13
the MyPlate Vegetarian Food Guide? She
4:16
continues, I'm a long time lacto-over-vegetarian and
4:18
I'm concerned about getting enough protein and
4:20
fiber, especially as I get older, but
4:23
I'm also aiming to keep my daily
4:25
calorie intake at 1800 or so. So
4:30
the MyPlate recommendations, which you can
4:32
find at MyPlate.gov, are
4:34
designed to ensure that you're meeting the minimum
4:37
protein requirements, which for a woman is 45 grams
4:39
a day. But
4:41
getting more than that, say between
4:44
60 and 90 grams
4:46
of protein every day can really help
4:48
us maintain our muscle mass as we
4:50
age. Now getting that much
4:52
protein can be a little bit trickier on
4:55
a vegetarian diet, especially when you're
4:57
trying to limit calories. A
5:00
lot of the foods that vegetarians rely on for
5:02
protein, such as beans and
5:04
nuts, also contain a
5:07
lot of calories in the form
5:09
of carbohydrates and fats. And
5:11
by the time you've eaten enough of
5:13
these foods to meet that higher protein
5:15
requirement, it may be a lot
5:17
more calories than you need. I
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talked more about how to get
5:22
more protein from fewer calories in
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episode number 483 on protein density. And
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as part of that, I also created the table
5:31
where you can look up the protein density of
5:34
various foods. And I will include
5:36
links to both of those resources in the
5:38
show notes for today's episode. Now
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Julie also expressed concern about meeting the recommendation
5:43
for fiber, which is 25 to 30 grams
5:45
per day. The
5:48
good news is that vegetarian diets
5:50
are usually relatively high in fiber.
5:54
And Just to make sure that you're
5:56
staying within your calorie budget, we can
5:58
also calculate fiber density. The City to
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reveal those foods that deliver the
6:03
most fiber for the fewest calories.
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And I talked about cyber density
6:07
in episode number Four Hundred and
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Seventy Nine, and I created a
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parallel resource support looking up the
6:13
cyber density of various foods to
6:15
go with that episode, so those
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links will also be. In the show Notes:
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6:24
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6:26
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under $20,000. Nikki
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wrote in with a really interesting
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question about balancing the macronutrient content
8:18
of her diet or the percentage
8:21
of calories that she's getting from
8:23
carbohydrates, fats and proteins. She
8:26
wrote, as a fit, healthy woman
8:28
in my fifties, I've been getting more seriously
8:30
into weight training to try to avoid the
8:32
loss of muscle tissue as I age. And
8:35
my trainer has advised me to
8:37
up my protein and my carbohydrate
8:39
intake to build muscle. So for
8:41
the first time in my life,
8:43
I've started tracking my macros. I
8:46
eat a Mediterranean diet with a high
8:48
volume of vegetables and legumes. And
8:51
I thought because those foods are high in
8:53
carbs, I'd have a high percentage of carbs
8:55
in my diet. But in fact, it
8:57
is my fat that is quite high. I
9:00
also eat nuts and seeds every day, plus
9:02
several servings of avocado and fatty fish
9:04
every week. So I'm getting more
9:06
than 40% of my calories from fat.
9:09
Carbs are limping along behind in
9:12
the thirties and only protein
9:14
seems to be on track at 20%. The
9:18
recommendations that I see online for
9:20
macro ratios vary widely. And
9:22
I think I don't want to make major changes
9:24
to my diet without understanding this better. Do you
9:28
have any guidance? It's
9:30
all due respect to Nikki's
9:32
trainer. I'm not sure she needs to
9:35
increase protein or carbohydrates.
9:38
Nikki's getting about 20% of her
9:40
calories from protein and that should be
9:42
more than enough to support healthy muscle
9:44
protein synthesis. Now
9:46
I can't be sure, but it's possible
9:49
that the trainer was recommending more carbs
9:52
as a way of optimizing Nikki's
9:54
protein uptake after workouts.
9:57
Because research shows that a post-workout
9:59
recovery meal with a ratio of
10:01
four to one carbs to protein
10:04
is optimal. But this
10:06
research was done in athletes.
10:09
The ratio of protein to carbohydrates
10:12
or the precise timing of
10:14
our post-workout meals really
10:16
only makes a difference at
10:19
very elite levels of athletic
10:21
competition. We mere mortals really
10:23
don't need to worry about these sorts of details.
10:27
I also don't think that Nikki needs to worry
10:29
about getting 40% of her
10:31
calories from fats, especially given
10:33
the healthy sources of fats
10:35
that she's consuming nuts, avocados,
10:37
fatty fish. The
10:40
whole field of nutrition has been
10:42
gradually recovering from the misguided fat
10:44
phobia of the 70s and 80s,
10:48
which among other things influenced
10:50
the Institutes of Medicine's recommendation
10:53
that fat should take up no more than 35%
10:55
of your calories. Remember that the
11:00
percentage of protein fats and carbohydrates
11:02
always has to add up to 100. If
11:05
you decrease the percentage of one, the percentage
11:07
of another will have to increase. Previous
11:10
efforts on the part of the government
11:12
and the public health agencies to get
11:14
us to avoid fat, for example, ended
11:18
up causing a dramatic increase in the
11:20
amount of carbohydrates in the typical diet.
11:22
And now with the benefit of hindsight,
11:25
we can see that
11:27
excessive carbohydrates, especially refined
11:29
carbohydrates, are doing much
11:32
more damage to our health than the
11:34
fats that they replaced. So
11:36
the obvious corollary to the fact that
11:39
the Institute of Medicine's recommended range for
11:41
fat might be too low is that
11:43
their recommended range for carbohydrates, which is
11:46
currently 45 to 65% of
11:49
calories, could well be too
11:51
high, at least for the
11:53
type of carbohydrates that we all
11:55
seem to prefer. Frankly,
11:58
it's a little embarrassing. The thing. To
12:01
the Institute of Medicine that
12:03
these recommendations have not yet
12:05
been updated because it's widely
12:08
accepted that getting forty percent
12:10
of your calories from healthy
12:12
sources of Sat is perfectly
12:14
acceptable, especially if those calories
12:16
are replacing refined carbohydrates. This.
12:19
Is in fact quite typical
12:21
of the Mediterranean style diet
12:24
that the dietary guidelines promote
12:26
as one of several healthy
12:28
diet patterns. Clan Guys, get
12:30
your act together. Nicky's
12:32
diet sounds to me like it
12:35
doesn't really need much improving, and
12:37
the combination of strength training and
12:40
a balanced and nutrient dense diet
12:42
is gonna be a very powerful
12:44
hedge against Aids related muscle loss
12:47
and. Aging in general. so keep
12:49
up the good work Nicky! A
12:51
thanks to everyone who has sent in questions.
12:53
I always enjoy hearing from listeners about what's
12:56
on your mind. And I look
12:58
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