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I'm Kristen Meinzer. And I am Jalinta

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2:42

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Thank you so much for that shout out, Jelenda. And

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now with those announcements out of the way, shall

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we dive in? Yes, please. Let's

4:22

start with Lucky Girl Syndrome and

4:25

some of the folks who say that way of thinking

4:27

works for them. Yes. Stacy says,

4:30

I completely believe in the law of attraction.

4:32

And I wish more people would be able to understand

4:35

it and realize how they can use it to create

4:38

the life they want. The universe matches

4:40

what you are vibrating. So if you are

4:43

feeling happy and grateful, the universe

4:45

will bring you more of that. It's also

4:47

about your limiting beliefs. If

4:49

you constantly tell yourself you

4:51

always have health problems, you're

4:53

going to get more of that. Wayne Dyer

4:55

said, change your thoughts, change your

4:57

life. I truly believe that. I

5:00

do have to say there must be some truth in

5:02

that because my new therapist

5:04

recently told me stop saying my

5:06

lupus and start saying the lupus

5:09

because when you claim so much ownership

5:12

over the disease, that mindset

5:14

can like change things physically. So

5:17

you never know.

5:19

Interesting. Interesting. And

5:21

I trust this new therapist, I think. Oh,

5:24

good. Okay. Christine

5:26

wrote in to say, I do

5:28

believe in manifesting good thoughts. Back

5:31

in 2011, I started to manifest that I wanted

5:33

my then boyfriend to propose to me. Every

5:36

day I said this to myself multiple times

5:38

a day, I never told anyone. Three

5:40

weeks later, he asked me to marry him

5:42

and I didn't share this with him for years.

5:45

Maybe my thoughts changed my behavior

5:47

though.

5:48

Or Christine, maybe you two were

5:50

just on the same page and maybe at the same

5:52

time you were thinking, I really want him

5:54

to propose to me. Maybe he was

5:57

thinking, wow, I really want to propose

5:59

to Christine.

5:59

So maybe you two

6:02

actually were just in sync with each other. Maybe

6:04

you two were in love. Maybe you were committed. Maybe you liked

6:06

the idea of spending your lives together. I

6:09

don't know. Maybe.

6:10

Maybe. Yeah. We'll

6:13

never know. We'll never know. Only

6:15

the universe knows.

6:17

Some of you believe manifesting

6:19

is possible, but with some caveats.

6:23

Zach says, the last time I manifested something, it

6:25

was a salad with blue cheese dressing. I

6:28

wanted it so bad that when I walked into the restaurant,

6:31

it was served to me before I'd even ordered anything.

6:33

And before my waiter knew I needed

6:35

service, I felt pretty powerful

6:37

in my salad summoning skills that day, but

6:40

I can't do it every day. I'm

6:42

bringing the story up to say in regards

6:44

to Lucky Girl Syndrome, I think the

6:46

kind of magical thinking in this kind of

6:48

thing can help life be more interesting, but

6:51

life is still a game of odds. And

6:53

all any of us can do is try to make

6:55

the decisions that put us in a place for

6:57

something interesting to happen. Lucky

7:00

Girl practices can help us notice those moments and

7:02

take advantage of them, but they're one

7:04

tool in a big box of them. And

7:07

there are other tools that are more interesting,

7:09

practical, and reliable. Yeah. I

7:12

like that there are other tools

7:13

that are more reliable. That feels

7:15

very true to me. Yeah.

7:18

I also like your thinking, Zach, that you can put yourself

7:20

in the path of certain luck. Like if you want

7:22

the salad, you know a good place to go, a restaurant.

7:25

And that's what

7:25

you did. Ah, right,

7:27

right. It was a bit of both, a bit of manifesting,

7:31

a bit of putting yourself in the right place. Yes.

7:34

And a bit of probably some orders getting

7:36

mixed up. Yes, all of that

7:38

good stuff. But I do need to try

7:41

manifesting salads. That's not something I've ever tried. Oh, yeah.

7:44

I love a good salad too. Who doesn't?

7:45

Jamie wrote in to

7:47

say, I believe that

7:49

you can find a positive or make a positive

7:51

out of any situation, provided you

7:53

are able to live to get out of the situation

7:55

in one piece and choose to find something

7:57

positive in it. Similarly, I believe.

8:00

in the idea of manifesting, but only

8:02

a little bit. What I believe to be

8:04

true is that if you're looking for the

8:06

good in a situation, you're way more likely

8:08

to find it. If you're expecting something

8:10

won't work out for you, it probably won't. And

8:13

that's not magic so much as reality.

8:14

We see what we're searching for.

8:17

It's the whole, if I buy a white car,

8:19

all I will see from now on are all the

8:21

white cars on the road phenomenon.

8:23

Yes. I think

8:25

you and I touched on that in our episode, Jelenta.

8:28

The idea of me personally going

8:30

through the world looking for the daisies growing out of

8:32

the sidewalk. Right. So I see them. Maybe

8:34

other people not looking for them aren't going to see them. I was going

8:36

to say, this sounds like a very Christiny outlook

8:39

where it's like, you can't maybe make

8:41

all the good things come to you, but

8:42

there are ways where you can see more of the

8:44

good in your life than maybe you have

8:46

before. Yes. And

8:49

Gayle says this, which I thought was great. I

8:51

like to think of manifestation like doing

8:53

improv with the universe. You initiate

8:56

a scene and sometimes life, AKA

8:58

your scene partner responds in the

9:00

perfect way. And other times it does

9:02

not.

9:03

I like that. That's a good way to put

9:05

it. You throw it out there. Sometimes the

9:08

universe yes, and you sometimes

9:10

it falls flat. Look

9:13

at you, Jelenta, using that improv terminology.

9:16

Yes. And I went to acting school. But

9:20

moving on, a lot

9:22

of you strongly dislike

9:24

lucky girl syndrome and the

9:26

law of attraction. Here's

9:28

a letter from someone who would like

9:30

to remain anonymous. The lucky

9:32

girl syndrome and manifestation attitude

9:34

is huge within the IVF space. And I despise

9:37

it. You're going through something hard, something

9:39

you want. And that is important to you. And

9:42

for some, there are a lot of rough patches

9:44

throughout the journey. If you share your

9:46

rough patch in

9:47

a raw way and don't sugarcoat your

9:49

experience or add some hopeful tagline,

9:52

you get bombarded with people giving you

9:54

advice to think positive, be hopeful, and

9:56

don't give up.

9:57

Another common occurrence in IVF groups is for people.

10:00

people to come back and share their success stories,

10:02

which is great. Many of the times they

10:04

start or end their story with, never give up, don't give

10:06

up hope, it'll happen for you, et cetera. They

10:09

mean to be encouraging, which is great, but I can't

10:11

help but wonder how many people

10:12

like me see those posts and feel guilt

10:15

for knowing we will not do this process

10:17

for 10 years, a dozen egg retrievals

10:19

or double digits worth of transfers.

10:22

Are we failures week, not

10:24

lucky girl enough despite doing mantras

10:26

daily for however long vision

10:28

boarding our future families, dreaming

10:30

of family vacations or what the child will

10:32

be like?

10:33

The reality of it is a positive mindset

10:36

is wonderful and healthy to have, but looking

10:38

at life realistically and allowing people

10:40

to sit with what they feel is also important.

10:43

It's like anything else, everything in moderation,

10:46

I guess.

10:46

Wow, I feel so much for

10:49

you, letter writer here, because what

10:51

you're talking about not only is

10:53

emotional and demoralizing,

10:56

it also is financial. Right.

11:00

And so much of the ability to say, oh, I'm gonna do 10 more

11:02

rounds of IVF when every round is 30, 40, $50,000, depending

11:07

on where you live and your insurance

11:09

coverage and so on, that means 10 rounds

11:12

of IVF could be half a million dollars and

11:15

multiple hours probably out of work while you're

11:17

going for your daily blood tests and

11:20

all of the other things that you have to go through. I'm

11:22

imagining that the people who say never

11:24

give up probably have more privileges in those

11:26

areas, financially and with time to

11:28

be able to do these things, right? Totally. So

11:31

that's not just Lucky Girl Syndrome, that

11:33

is Lucky Rich Girl Syndrome too. Oh,

11:36

Lucky Privilege Syndrome. Yes. Yes,

11:39

and we're so sorry that this

11:41

is something that you've been going through and we're sorry for anybody

11:43

else who's listening, who has been going

11:45

through that. Yeah, it's not your fault. It's

11:48

not, no, no, no, no. Krista has this to

11:50

say, Lucky Girl Syndrome to me is exactly

11:52

like growing up in the church. If you just

11:55

had enough faith, you didn't need

11:57

meds. If you had enough faith, your bills

11:59

would be paid.

11:59

If you just believed enough, the good

12:02

would happen. If you prayed enough, what

12:04

you wanted would come true, but if you didn't,

12:06

then you're an absolute failure, just shit

12:08

out of luck. Oof, that sounds

12:11

a lot like it. Yeah. Basically

12:13

the same

12:13

principle. You're not asking hard enough. You're

12:15

not putting out the right energy, the

12:18

right asks to the universe, to

12:20

your God, whomever. And

12:24

if things aren't going your way, it's because you're not asking

12:26

right or, you know, it's your fault.

12:29

This is especially true in prosperity

12:31

gospel circles that believe if you

12:34

pray enough, you'll get rewarded and

12:36

the rewards can come in many, many forms, including

12:39

health and primarily wealth.

12:41

And yeah, that's all over America.

12:43

I'm not sure internationally

12:45

if it's as popular, but prosperity

12:47

gospel is a very, very, very American

12:49

thing within our churches. Totally.

12:52

And finally, Mandy had this

12:54

to say, which we love. Longtime

12:57

listener, first time writer, the episode

12:59

on lucky girl syndrome had me screaming

13:01

into the void as I walked

13:02

my dogs and bopped along to your podcast.

13:04

You're right. This

13:06

is just a rehashing of the secret. And

13:08

my biggest problem with the law of attraction

13:11

is that it doesn't make sense scientifically

13:14

in the universe. Positive attracts

13:16

negative. Try putting two magnets

13:18

together the wrong way. It's not going to happen.

13:21

So the whole thing just bugs me and I'm

13:23

very irritated that it's making its

13:25

way around again. Yes,

13:27

Mandy. I never thought of it that way. When you

13:29

put it that way, yes. Positive

13:32

does not attract positive.

13:34

No. I've tried that magnet

13:36

thing. You're right. It doesn't

13:38

work. They just push against each other. That's

13:43

so great. So great. All right.

13:45

We're going to take a quick break, but reminder,

13:48

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13:52

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we get into body doubling.

14:04

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17:52

Yes. So a lot of you wrote in

17:55

to say that you were body doubling already

17:57

without

17:57

even realizing it. Amy

17:59

said,

17:59

I was so excited to hear about body

18:02

doubling in your episode this week. I feel like

18:04

I was way ahead of the trend. Back in

18:06

the 80s, when I was in elementary school,

18:08

I would do my homework with my father sitting next

18:10

to me. He would be reading a book

18:13

or doing his own thing, never helping just

18:15

being there. We called him the DD

18:17

or designated dummy. Somehow

18:19

the homework got done faster and better,

18:22

even though he wasn't helping with the work. Just

18:24

as presidents made a difference, I hope more research

18:27

is done to understand why this is so effective.

18:29

Very interesting, Amy.

18:32

Wow, all the way back in the 80s doing it.

18:34

Plus, what a fun name, designated dummy.

18:38

Not because you're dumb, but you're just a presence.

18:41

You're just a body. A body. That's

18:43

all you are. Maeve

18:46

says, I was not familiar with the

18:48

term body doubling, but I've been doing it for

18:50

years with my special education teacher

18:52

friends. We just coined it productivity

18:55

parties. We've been doing productivity parties

18:57

for over eight years. Two or three

18:59

of

18:59

us special education teachers get together

19:02

once a weekish to be productive. It gives

19:04

us a set time to get worked on and

19:06

gives us someone to bounce ideas off of

19:08

when we need help with wording or intervention

19:11

ideas. Sometimes one's productivity

19:13

may be housework even. Some weeks

19:15

are more productive than others, but it's better

19:17

than sitting alone and staring at

19:19

paperwork, wondering how

19:21

to start. I love that. Productive

19:23

parties, designated dummies. We got

19:25

all sorts of names for body doubling.

19:28

Yeah, it's so fun. And yeah, I can totally

19:30

see starting a task

19:33

that just doesn't seem exciting, having someone

19:35

else next to you who's doing the same thing. Misery

19:37

loves company, I guess. Right, right, yeah, it's true.

19:41

I remember when I was in school, the teachers

19:43

used to get together all day and write

19:45

their grades and stuff just

19:48

near each other. It's not like they were doing it together.

19:50

Same vibe. And

19:52

we also heard from another educator

19:55

who uses body doubling in a totally

19:57

different way. Monique said...

20:00

This episode got me thinking about how us teachers

20:02

do this as a strategy to help

20:04

ADHD

20:05

or otherwise easily distracted

20:07

students. We create seating plans

20:09

where we place those students next to students who

20:11

get started straight away, mind their business,

20:14

and do their work, etc. Depending

20:17

on personalities and dynamics, it usually

20:19

works a treat.

20:20

Wow, that is very smart.

20:23

I have to tell you, Monique, it

20:25

didn't ever occur to me that teachers were seating

20:27

us in a particular fashion growing up. But

20:30

now looking back, I'm like, oh yeah. That

20:32

makes sense. This is why I was always with boring people

20:35

in my like little cluster. Oh,

20:40

Monique, you're pulling back the curtain on so much

20:42

for us. Yeah. But

20:44

while a lot of you body double with people in

20:47

the same field as you, some of you do it with

20:49

more unconventional partners.

20:50

Chrissy says, I am

20:52

a stay-at-home parent and I use body doubling,

20:55

but it's not really a body double because

20:57

I use my robot vacuum lovingly

21:00

named Robert to be my body double. I

21:02

have him set every day, Monday through Friday

21:04

at 8 30 a.m., to run for one hour.

21:07

When Robert kicks on, I tell myself I

21:10

have to get up and do something productive while Robert

21:12

is running.

21:13

Sometimes it's laundry or dishes or cleaning

21:15

a bathroom, but Robert holds me accountable

21:18

for that hour. That is so

21:20

cute. Yeah, your body double doesn't

21:22

have to have a human

21:25

body. It can be a robot body. As

21:27

long as it's a presence that

21:28

reminds you like what you're doing

21:30

or to stay on task or gets you refocused,

21:33

like who cares what kind of body it is? Yes,

21:36

this is giving me some inspiration. I think I've told you

21:38

in the past, JoLenta, that when I did have

21:40

a robot vacuum, it made me sad because I would

21:42

see it working and I would feel so bad for it.

21:44

You feel guilty. Yeah. Yeah.

21:47

I'm like, look at it working away and I'm like watching TV. I feel so bad.

21:50

But if you did work too. Yes.

21:52

Maybe I wouldn't feel so bad about my robot working

21:54

and me doing nothing.

21:55

Wow. Wow. We're

21:57

going to think about that while we take another. quick

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break. But when we come back, we're

22:02

going to read some of the great ideas you have

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for our advice seekers.

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All

22:58

right, we are back and we have some additional

23:22

advice

23:25

for our recent letter writers.

23:27

All right, first up some advice for

23:30

our letter writer who is deciding whether

23:32

or not to go no contact

23:34

with a family member.

23:35

Electra says for the letter

23:37

writer dealing with estrangement, I

23:40

too am estranged from a parent, a sibling

23:42

and several former friends and coworkers.

23:44

If you're still waffling on why

23:47

you are making the separation and

23:49

you are still in contact, try the

23:51

explicit if then style of boundaries.

23:54

Basically, it's you defining your pre-chosen

23:57

behavior if certain circumstances occur and

23:59

you telling the

23:59

other person in advance about the circumstance

24:02

and your chosen reaction and you following

24:05

through regardless of their complaints

24:07

and attempts to get you to change your mind. For

24:09

example, if my parent belittles my child,

24:12

I will take us home early and won't come back

24:14

for a week. If you set concrete if-then

24:16

conditions and you find yourself going home

24:18

early and walking away a lot, that gives you

24:20

some concrete reasons you can remember later

24:23

when you are wondering if you were right to cut

24:25

them out of your life.

24:26

They weren't willing to change or collaborate

24:29

even when you gave them clear conditions, nor

24:31

did they care enough to extrapolate from

24:33

those boundaries how they might be

24:35

a bit more supportive. Oh, Electra, that

24:37

is great advice. Right? Then,

24:40

yes. And I especially like your example

24:42

here because I think for a lot of

24:44

us it's easier when we think of, are

24:46

you doing something to somebody I love?

24:48

You know?

24:49

But then eventually maybe we can replace that person

24:52

we love like our child or our friend

24:54

with ourselves too, which is, don't look to something

24:56

you alluded to in the original episode.

24:59

Right, right. Moving on, we also

25:01

got tons of tips for our letter

25:03

writer who struggled with indecision.

25:06

Yes. Alice says, love this week's

25:08

episode. I'm very indecisive with

25:10

big decisions and I've found

25:13

one way that works for me. At random,

25:15

I choose one of the options and commit to

25:17

it, but only in my

25:19

mind. I don't tell anyone else

25:22

or act on the decision in any way.

25:24

Then the next day I swap and

25:26

commit to the other decision only in

25:29

my mind. I almost always

25:31

find one of the days my mind keeps

25:33

chirping up with worries and wanting to reconsider

25:35

and with the other decision, my mind just

25:38

quiets down and I get on with

25:40

my day without thinking about it so much.

25:42

That lets me know that that's

25:44

the right decision. For some reason,

25:47

I need to pretend I've made the decision

25:49

to actually know how it feels. That

25:51

makes so much sense. I feel like I need to try that

25:53

immediately next time I'm making a decision.

25:56

Thank you, Alice. Yes, thank you, Alice.

25:59

Melissa also wrote a book about the decision.

25:59

wrote in to say, when

26:02

it comes to indecision, the book, How

26:04

to Decide by poker champ Annie Duke

26:06

is super helpful. She breaks down

26:08

how outcomes are not directly related

26:11

to the quality of the decision. There's

26:13

always an element of luck. You have to

26:15

weigh the probabilities. Oh, Melissa,

26:18

I love that you mentioned Annie Duke. We've

26:20

mentioned Annie Duke in our Patreon

26:22

affirmation episodes, JoLenta, because I

26:25

love Annie Duke so much. She's so cool. Oh,

26:27

she's so cool. I was very fortunate to be able to

26:29

interview

26:29

her once for another one of my shows. It

26:32

was supposed to be a half hour interview, and it went for almost

26:34

two hours, because we could not stop talking with each other.

26:37

She has so many great ideas. She's

26:39

not just a poker champion. She's a PhD.

26:41

She's written many books.

26:43

She is so smart. She's

26:46

so great.

26:47

Now, for the letter writer feeling unworthy

26:49

of fun, we got a lot of feedback,

26:52

but we especially loved this

26:54

super interesting note from a listener. Biesland

26:56

says, play, as JoLenta and Kristen

26:59

mentioned in the episode, is essential.

27:01

Even bees, arguably the most

27:04

productive species in the world, have been

27:06

shown in laboratory experiments to engage

27:08

in play when given the opportunity. A

27:11

study, which was reported on the CBC, found

27:14

that the bees would elect to play with colored

27:16

wooden balls even when given unrestricted

27:18

access to food. The authors hypothesized

27:21

that the bees found the act of play to be rewarding

27:24

in its own right, a.k.a. fun.

27:27

So if busy bees can see value

27:29

in recreation, we humans should not

27:31

feel pressure to constantly

27:33

be productive. Oh. I'm

27:38

so glad they threw that joke in just for you,

27:40

Kristen. Thank you. Aiesland,

27:43

yes. Yeah. So when you're like, I'm

27:45

as busy as a bee, remember, bees

27:47

want to play with a ball. So

27:49

give yourself a bee break. Yes.

27:52

Aiesland, by the way, also included

27:54

a link to this study, if anyone

27:56

wants to read it. We'll make sure it's on our Facebook

27:58

community. It is a delight.

27:59

It made me so excited for the bees. Totally.

28:03

Moving on, I want to talk

28:05

about glamour, Kristin, because we

28:07

got some fun tips for

28:10

our letter writer who wanted to add more glamour

28:12

to their life. Here is a great

28:14

one. Lauren says, I love

28:16

the ideas about how to add a little glamour to your

28:19

life, especially since they were so accessible.

28:21

I personally love fresh flowers, candles,

28:23

and robes. One thing I do is

28:26

I almost always plate my food in a visually

28:28

compelling way. Think fancy restaurant

28:31

dish. It doesn't take very long. I arrange

28:33

it carefully and add a little bit

28:35

of chopped herbs, a citrus wedge, or

28:37

a drizzle of balsamic, depending on what the

28:39

meal entails.

28:40

I also take photos, but that

28:42

isn't necessary. I mostly do it for

28:44

me because it makes me enjoy what

28:47

I'm eating so much more. And note,

28:49

Lauren does show off some of these

28:51

photos for us on our Facebook community. Thank

28:53

you, Lauren. They are beautiful.

28:55

They look like Michelin star restaurant

28:57

plates, gorgeous, inspired

29:00

me to actually want to make my plates maybe a little

29:02

prettier. I know, I was like, wait, I could do that.

29:06

Shit, Lauren. So beautiful.

29:08

You're right. I love

29:10

it.

29:12

["I'm Not Gonna Give You Up"]

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So

29:18

that's it for this feedback

29:20

episode. Thank you to everyone

29:22

who wrote in. Reminder, we love

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hearing from you. You can always

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in addition to huge thanks to all

29:34

of you, our listeners, huge thanks as well to

29:36

our production team at Stitcher, Nora

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So let us know.

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Until next time, I'm Kristen Meinzer.

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And I'm Jelena Greenberg. Thanks so much

29:59

for listening. Thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you next

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