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2:00

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2:02

Welcome to Disgraceland, the after party.

2:19

Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode, a little

2:21

thing we like to call the after party.

2:24

This is the show after the show, the party

2:26

after the party, the bridge to get you from

2:28

full episode of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard

2:30

to dig into the dirt. On

2:32

this episode, we are talking about

2:35

our classic April Fool's episode on John Denver,

2:37

the sources we used for this episode, which

2:40

helped us uncover a crazy story about how

2:42

the guy who sang Take Me Home Country

2:44

Roads may have taken a dark secret to

2:46

his grave. Not really, but sort of. And

2:49

of course, your voicemails, texts, DMs and

2:51

more. And as always, a whole lot

2:53

of Rosie. Alright, this goes less debt.

3:08

November 22 1963 September 27 1964 December 20 1991. What are

3:10

all three of those dates have

3:18

in common? If you answered the loss of

3:20

American trust in its institutions, then ding ding

3:22

ding you are going to win a prize.

3:24

November 22 1963 was of course, the date

3:26

that President John

3:29

F. Kennedy was assassinated. September 27 1964 was the

3:31

date that the War Commission's report

3:35

was made available to the public,

3:37

where on a panel of seven

3:39

public officials declared that the gunman

3:41

Lee Harvey Oswald acted entirely alone

3:44

when he shot President Kennedy and

3:46

December 20

3:48

1991 was of course the date that

3:50

Oliver Stone released his masterpiece JFK, a

3:52

film that presents New Orleans

3:54

District Attorney Jim Garrison's theory on

3:57

the assassination that directly refutes

3:59

the war. Warren Commission's findings. The

4:03

murder of the 35th President

4:05

of the United States was

4:07

captured on film, famously. Once

4:11

the horrifying image of his death and

4:13

of his glamorous wife scrambling over the

4:15

back of their open-air Lincoln Continentals had

4:18

gathered bits of his exploding brains, once

4:20

that incredible imagery faded, we

4:22

were left able to further analyze the

4:24

assassination in comparison with

4:27

what our government was presenting

4:29

as fact, that one gunman

4:31

was responsible for this awful

4:33

event, and that he was perched above

4:36

the President when he shot his antiquated

4:38

single-bolt action rifle, and that even

4:40

though he was positioned behind the

4:42

President, his bullet entered the

4:44

President's body from the front, forcing

4:47

it, as Jerry Seinfeld said to America repeatedly on

4:49

February 12, 1992, back into the left. A

4:54

phrase also that the band Texas is the reason would

4:56

later nail in song on their album Do You Know

4:58

Who You Are? in 1996. By

5:01

the time most of us were either born or

5:04

old enough to be consuming and understanding

5:06

pop culture, it was

5:08

a well-known fact that not only

5:10

was Lee Harvey Oswald not the

5:12

lone gunman, but that our government lied

5:14

to us about it with the Warren Report, and

5:16

that they continue to lie to us about the

5:19

murder of what could have been our most transformative

5:21

leader, and to take it even further, it's

5:23

a likely fact that not only did

5:25

our government lie to us about this

5:27

event, they were likely responsible for it.

5:29

Two of these three things, the government

5:31

lying about JFK's killer, the government continuing

5:33

to lie to us about JFK's killer,

5:35

these are facts. The third thing, the

5:37

government being responsible for the murder, that

5:39

as of yet has not been irrefutably

5:41

proven, but let's be real, even though

5:43

we don't have video proof of it

5:45

like we do to dispute the lone

5:47

gunman theory, the facts get us to

5:50

about 90% certainty that the CIA

5:52

worked with the Mafia and likely other

5:54

interested parties to successfully pull off

5:56

an American coup d'etat. But

5:58

at this point in my life, I'm not going to be able to do that. life. This

6:00

is less interesting to me than the

6:03

fact that the American government asked us

6:05

to disbelieve our own eyes.

6:07

Pay no attention to what you see in

6:09

that footage of the president being killed. No,

6:11

believe what we tell you instead. Many

6:14

of us didn't, of course, see Oliver

6:17

Stone and pretty much anyone born after

6:19

the World War II generation, but almost

6:21

all of us are compliant. What

6:23

are we going to do? Not trust the government

6:25

is what we're going to do. They

6:27

lied to us then. They lied to us

6:29

about Vietnam and Cambodia afterward and Iran

6:31

Contra and weapons of mass destruction and

6:33

they lied to us over and over

6:36

again throughout the last three administrations and

6:38

it doesn't matter who our leaders are

6:40

in the future. Our government will continue

6:42

to lie to us and we will

6:44

continue to not have faith in our

6:46

biggest, most powerful institution. That

6:48

is old news. That's interesting, but it's

6:50

not super interesting to me. I get

6:53

it. What is very interesting to me

6:55

given my age and my generation is

6:57

that there ever was even a time

6:59

at all when people did trust the

7:01

government. That is kind of shocking to

7:03

think of. Think of how cynical that

7:05

is, by the way, that most

7:07

people won't believe you if you tell

7:10

them that between the years after World

7:12

War II and before the Kennedy assassination

7:14

that America existed in relative consensus and

7:16

that the majority of Americans trusted the

7:19

government as much, if not

7:21

more than any other institution. How

7:24

cynical is it that I can't even really

7:27

imagine that time? I can't even

7:29

really fathom it. It's hard for me

7:31

to believe and we have the JFK

7:33

assassination to thank for this lack of

7:35

trust and personally this

7:38

lack of trust is what makes it possible

7:41

for some dickhead like me to tell

7:43

you a story that is wildly unbelievable.

7:45

A story that musician John Denver was

7:48

the most decorated sniper in American military

7:50

history and that he was one of

7:52

the other gunmen besides Oswald on that

7:54

day in Dallas in 63 and that

7:56

you guys believed that craziness even though

7:58

at the beginning The beginning of the

8:01

episode, I state right there that the episode

8:03

you're about to hear is satire, yet still

8:05

you believed it, still I got you, almost

8:07

all of you of course, and

8:09

that this story, even when stripped of

8:11

90% of its

8:13

context and boiled down into a

8:16

75 second reel

8:18

on Instagram, that it's still

8:20

got people. Don't feel

8:22

bad. I believe this unbelievable story too

8:24

when I first heard it. It's

8:26

almost as if we've all been trained to not

8:28

believe our own eyes, just like

8:31

the government asked us to do with the Warren

8:33

Commission. I'll be back in a flash. Hey,

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right, you might be asking yourself, you

12:17

know, why did I believe this story or

12:20

you might be sitting there going, Oh, we thought you

12:22

made up this story about John Denver, being

12:25

a decorated sniper

12:27

and an assassin in in

12:29

the JFK assassination. I'm gonna give you

12:32

a little background here on on

12:35

how this story came to be what's true,

12:37

what's not true. The reason

12:39

this story is actually believable in such

12:42

a great April Fool's joke is

12:44

that parts of it are legitimately

12:46

true. Now, I

12:48

heard the fact about the part about

12:50

him being a the most decorated sniper

12:52

in the history of the American military.

12:55

That part of the story I did not

12:57

make up that was an old wives tale.

12:59

I don't know where I heard it. I

13:01

probably heard it at a party in high

13:04

school or college and sort of the pre

13:06

ubiquity of the internet era. And, and it

13:08

was just one of those things that you

13:10

couldn't disprove in the moment before, you know,

13:12

cell phones and all that. But

13:15

it, you know, it is out there.

13:17

If you Google John Denver sniper, you

13:20

will get returns that

13:23

are, of course, not correct information.

13:25

It's just this wild conspiracy theory. It's

13:27

meant to be a gag. It's not

13:29

meant to be any sort of harmful

13:31

thing. It's a

13:33

fascinating, fascinating conspiracy story. It's, it's one

13:35

that is just like I said, so

13:38

unbelievable, that it makes you want to

13:40

kind of believe it. However,

13:42

the reason that it's so unbelievable

13:44

is that there are truths to

13:47

John Denver's background that support this

13:49

story. His father was in the

13:52

Air Force. John Denver did grow

13:54

up in Air Force, in Air

13:56

Force brat. I believe his

13:58

father was one of the first like the the first

14:00

class of Air Force when the Air

14:02

Force was established post-World War II. His

14:05

father was one of the first airmen, I believe.

14:07

I believe that to be true. I could be wrong. But,

14:11

like I said, that part of the

14:13

story is true. So

14:16

I thought, okay, how do I research

14:18

John Denver and how do I

14:20

go into his past and how

14:22

do I figure out, find other

14:24

elements, true elements of his story

14:27

that can help support this incredible

14:29

narrative that he was an assassin

14:31

and not just an

14:33

assassin in Vietnam, but

14:35

perhaps an assassin in

14:37

the JFK assassination. Because

14:40

again, to the truth of it, you

14:44

know, there were multiple gunmen who

14:46

shot at JFK and there are, you

14:48

know, E. Howard Hunt, who I mentioned in the story, is

14:51

rumored to have been one of them, although I

14:53

don't necessarily believe that. I believe he was there

14:55

that day and there may, in fact, be images

14:58

of him being arrested on that day, but I don't think

15:00

he was actually one of the gunmen. He

15:03

was a little bit below his pay

15:05

grade. So the question of who the gunmen

15:07

were besides Oswald remains.

15:10

And there's lots of different theories. There were Corsicans

15:12

who were flown in by the mafia, but

15:15

there's also the theory that they were military

15:17

men, CIA. That's the theory that I believe.

15:19

I believe it was a mix. So you

15:21

know, why not John Denver? Anyways

15:26

and there's, so that part of

15:28

it is true too from the JFK perspective, right?

15:30

That there were these multiple snipers. I think you

15:32

can't look at the evidence of

15:34

JFK's assassination, like I said earlier, in

15:36

the B block and walk away thinking

15:39

that there was only one gunman. So

15:41

if it's true that there were multiple,

15:43

it stands to reason, I guess, in

15:45

some fantastical alternate reality that John Denver

15:47

was one of them. Now

15:49

there's other pieces. Obviously I tell the

15:51

story of John Denver as a musician

15:53

and his coming up

15:56

and his coming up on the West coast sort of folk scene,

15:58

the difference between the folk scene and the West

16:00

Coast from the folks in the East Coast,

16:02

him coming up with David Crosby and the

16:04

birds and that beef between John Denver and

16:06

David Crosby, that actually happened. That was true.

16:09

That was real. The bit about

16:11

John Denver chainsawing

16:13

his bed in half

16:17

for his wife, that is true as well.

16:20

That is something that I uncovered in my research

16:22

of John Denver and that just flies right in

16:24

the face of who John Denver was. If we

16:26

were doing just a straight John Denver story, that

16:29

unbelievable holy shit moment would definitely be

16:31

part of it. John Denver

16:33

did actually die in a plane

16:35

crash, his own plane. He

16:39

did not allow himself to crash, to

16:42

overcome his guilt and his shame and to

16:44

put an end to it and all that.

16:47

Of course, I made up and it was part

16:49

of the April Fool's joke. Some

16:53

of the sources here that I used,

16:55

I'm going to get into these, it's been a long time. This

16:58

episode came out, it was the second or

17:00

third year of the show, of the podcast.

17:02

I can't remember. It came out a couple

17:04

of years ago. I think it came out

17:06

in 2020 if memory serves. I

17:10

don't really have a lot of

17:12

strong insight into these research sources

17:15

here. I simply have

17:17

the list. Let me see if anything jogs my memory

17:19

as I read them. John Denver. Okay,

17:22

yeah. John Denver, the untold story of a

17:24

Vietnam sniper by Loretta Spilter. This must be

17:26

the article that I found on the internet

17:28

that kind of makes the case that he

17:30

was a Vietnam sniper that is just

17:33

false. Rocky Mountain

17:35

High-Priced Home, that's where I get the

17:37

details on John Denver's massive 7,000

17:39

square foot Aspen mansion. It

17:42

had to do a lot of research into

17:44

how snipers actually work because I don't understand

17:46

any of that. At the

17:48

time that this episode came out, there

17:50

was this time in modern American history

17:52

where there are all these JFK

17:55

documents that were set to be

17:57

released and Trump. looked

18:00

at when he was president, he looked at some of them and

18:03

he was like, nope, I'm not

18:05

releasing these. And I was

18:07

like, ah, I can use that. I can use that as part of the

18:09

story. Again, using the truth

18:12

to help tell the fantasy. I

18:15

did a lot of research on CIA's,

18:17

their kill squads. There

18:19

was an article I read called the CIA's Worldwide

18:21

Kill Squads by Roy Norton. You

18:23

want to learn more about that Trump in the

18:25

JFK assassination files? There was an

18:27

article called Trump Holds Some JFK Assassination Files

18:29

Back Sets New Three-Year Deadline. I'm

18:32

sure we've passed that three-year deadline since then and

18:34

they still haven't been released. I

18:37

did read a John Denver biography and I

18:39

don't have it listed here in my list

18:42

of sources and

18:44

I'm not sure which that was. Excuse

18:47

me, I'm not sure what that was, which book that was.

18:51

So just, you know, the thing that

18:53

makes this John Denver thing so believable

18:55

is who John Denver was as a

18:58

character. He was this very docile, peaceful,

19:00

just kind of chill guy. He wasn't

19:03

quite a hippie, but he was like

19:05

a, he was of the

19:07

hippie generation, someone that the hippie's

19:09

parents could get behind. John

19:12

Denver too, it's worth mentioning here.

19:15

We probably, because he died

19:17

and he didn't get to really maintain

19:20

his own legacy and cultivate

19:22

it, I think we've

19:25

forgotten just how famous and popular

19:27

he was. He

19:29

was literally one of like

19:32

a handful, like top five

19:34

most famous entertainers on

19:36

the planet in the 1970s. Like

19:40

it was him, Sinatra,

19:43

and Elvis, maybe Barbara

19:45

Streisand and I

19:48

don't know, perhaps Robert

19:50

Redford in the 70s. I'm trying to think

19:52

of who would fill that fifth slot, but

19:54

he was that big and

19:56

just totally mainstream. TV

19:59

special. feels huge albums

20:01

year after year after year

20:04

massive singles and I gotta say I

20:06

don't really like any of it I am NOT

20:09

a John Denver fan I know because

20:11

of his his fame and his cultural impact that

20:13

a lot of you are and that's cool but

20:16

just never spoke to me on any

20:18

level at all

20:21

really I just

20:23

thought he was even as a kid watching

20:25

him on the Muppets I didn't think

20:28

he was particularly interesting but

20:30

you know him as a sniper in Vietnam

20:32

I'm in anyways he

20:35

was huge that's the point I'm trying

20:37

to make massive wildly famous and

20:39

that was that was a point I wanted to make

20:42

and I'm not sure I really did I wanted to

20:44

get that across it's hard for people who are younger

20:46

to truly understand just how

20:48

popular he was but his

20:51

his vibe his image was

20:53

this real kind of like

20:55

peaceful passable environment pacifist excuse

20:57

me environmentalist and you

21:00

know and that's what makes it makes

21:02

the story so compelling that he was

21:04

a sniper another interesting sidebar here is

21:06

that the same rumor exists about mr.

21:09

Rogers he too

21:12

was rumored to have been a sniper the

21:14

reason that he always wore those long-sleeved cardigans

21:16

supposedly was to hide all his tattoos for

21:18

the war but you know

21:22

that never happened all right

21:24

clearly perhaps again

21:26

this is an April Fool's thing I re

21:28

we re-released it this year it's been a couple

21:31

years since it first came out I got

21:34

a bunch of you new listeners I'm

21:36

thankful that you're here please forgive me it's

21:39

probably also worth mentioning that

21:42

we've we've done another April Fool's

21:44

episode it's in the archive I'm

21:46

not gonna mention about what

21:48

it is but it's

21:50

there and you

21:53

might stumble upon it in the archive and if

21:55

you do go easy

21:57

on me I'm just playing not everything has to be

21:59

super super serious and super dark and I think you

22:01

know that about me. 617-906-6638

22:06

to let me know either on voicemail or

22:08

text what you thought of the John Denver

22:10

episode or really just to catch up on

22:12

anything 617-906-6638 I'm here for. We

22:17

asked a lot. I thought the Van Halen

22:19

episode last week prompted a lot of compelling

22:21

questions in the after party bonus episode

22:23

that we did on covers,

22:25

best covers, covers that are better than

22:28

the originals, best guitar players, all that.

22:31

Let's check in with some of your answers from

22:33

last week's question. This one comes from the732.

22:35

Hey Jake, Mark from New Jersey. Just listening to the Van Halen episode.

22:37

Amazing as usual. The only cover that I think

22:39

might be better than VH's over Roy is Springsteen's

22:41

Jersey Girl

22:50

over Tom Waits. But

22:52

you forget who sang the original. That

22:55

makes it a better cover and that's Bruce. See

22:58

you man. You know as much

23:00

as I love Tom Waits, Mark, and

23:02

I really do, I really love

23:04

Tom Waits. I think if I could be any musician of

23:06

all time it would be Tom Waits. That's

23:09

a good question. We'll get back to that. But

23:13

I agree with you. I think Springsteen's

23:15

version is better and I think

23:17

Tom Waits might even tell you that as well. Certainly

23:20

better for his bank account. That's for

23:22

sure. Alright, let's check out another voicemail

23:24

here. This one

23:26

from the 615 on the same subject. Hey

23:30

Jake, this is Robbie from the 615. I

23:33

am calling with probably

23:36

the most obvious best cover

23:38

song, right? The one that

23:41

took over the original. It's gotta be

23:43

Hurt. Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt

23:46

from Transversion. There's

23:50

nothing that compares, right? So much to where,

23:52

you know, Translect, that's not my song anymore.

23:54

That's Johnny's song. Take care man. See

23:57

ya. Yeah, 615. I agree with you. That's

23:59

a great example. hurt by Johnny Cash. And,

24:02

you know, we obviously

24:04

have to credit Johnny Cash for the

24:07

performance, but we got to

24:09

credit Rick Rubin for producing

24:12

that song. And I don't know how

24:14

much he actually produced it other than

24:16

suggesting it. But

24:19

the vulnerability in Johnny Cash's voice at

24:21

that point in his career, that point

24:23

of his life, excuse me, when he

24:25

sings that song is just, it's overwhelming.

24:28

And it does something different to the

24:30

composition that just wasn't there when Trent

24:32

Reznor performed it. It's really fantastic. 617-906-6638

24:34

to hit me up guys, voicemail

24:40

and text. You

24:43

know, there was an interesting question that just

24:45

got prompted there. We were talking about Tom

24:47

Waits. And I used

24:50

to be a musician. I don't really count

24:52

myself as one anymore. I mean, I'll always

24:54

make music on some level, but

24:57

I'm not, I don't want to confuse what I do

24:59

with what other people do and do very, very, very

25:01

well. So I used to think of like, God, if

25:04

I could be any musician in the world, who would

25:06

it be? And Tom Waits was always

25:08

at the top of my list. I thought

25:10

he was just, I thought he was like

25:12

this, God, he's just

25:14

so wholly unique and original. And talk

25:17

about covers, right? And talk about making

25:19

things your own.

25:22

Not that Tom Waits was this massive

25:24

cover artist in any way. He wasn't,

25:26

but he took, he

25:28

took Americana, he took country and

25:31

blues and jazz and

25:35

early pop music. And he took

25:37

all of that and blended it

25:39

into something completely his own. And

25:42

I just, I just was,

25:44

I am, I remain completely

25:46

blown away by it. That

25:48

level of originality, and

25:51

yet it's still

25:53

completely compelling and

25:55

listenable. It's not just, you know, unique

25:58

to be unique, original to be, original.

26:01

It's something that speaks on a universal level and I

26:03

always thought God if I could be anyone it would

26:05

be Tom Waits. If I could be any musician

26:07

that is. Not that I want to be anyone else.

26:10

I'm pretty happy being me. But the

26:12

question remains if you could be any musician

26:14

who would it be? 617-906-6638. We'll get back

26:18

to that in a minute. I want to do

26:20

a couple texts here as well. Again on this

26:23

covers issue 248 writes in, Tim

26:25

Lizzie's cover of Whiskey in the Jar is

26:28

more than a great cover in the vein

26:30

of Hendrix's All Along the Watchtower but a

26:32

complete evolution of the very old folk song

26:34

made famous by the Dubliners. Rick from the

26:36

248. I would have to agree. Great

26:39

song. Great great great song. One of those songs

26:41

when I hear it is just in my head

26:43

for about two weeks. Can't get it out. 646

26:45

writes in, Hey

26:47

hope all is well with you and your family.

26:49

Just listening to your podcast on John Denver you

26:51

mentioned Santo Traficante in New Orleans.

26:53

Traficante was from Tampa. Carlos

26:56

Marcello was in New Orleans.

26:58

Many historians link Marcello to

27:02

the assassination of RFK and

27:04

Dr. King. Go Knicks. Good

27:07

call 646 my mistake. You're

27:11

absolutely right. I mixed up those

27:13

two gangsters. I knew

27:15

this you know it's the southern gangsters and

27:17

I messed up the southern places of origin.

27:19

I apologize. 818 writes

27:22

in, Jake your podcasts are in

27:24

a word cool. Just

27:27

finished the Van Halen episode and I dug it.

27:29

I wanted to touch on the Steve McQueen episode. I

27:31

was listening to the bonus episode of the Van Halen

27:33

one. Someone mentioned Alain Delon who

27:36

would be a great episode and

27:38

you said to send you a couple of titles to

27:40

get you familiar with them. So here you go. Les

27:42

Samurai 1967 in Farewell Front 1968 also starring Charles Bronson.

27:44

He was considered

27:48

the French James Dean. Cooler

27:50

than cool and it's still around today and

27:52

I'm out. Mickey later Mickey Mickey thanks

27:54

for the thanks for the

27:56

recommendations ask and I shall receive. I

27:58

appreciate that. All right, Jacqueline

28:01

from the 602 writes in hey

28:03

the Atari's cover of Don Henley's Boys

28:05

of Summer is far superior to his

28:07

original Jacqueline I don't know that I

28:10

agree with that. I really love Boys

28:12

of Summer, and I know that cover It's

28:14

good, but superior. I don't know I Think

28:17

you just like the Atari's better Is

28:21

that who that even is the Atari's why does that sound strange to

28:23

me 617 906 6 6 3 8 guys all right text Voicemail

28:28

let me know which musician in

28:30

the history of music you can

28:32

be any musician at

28:35

all Just one who is it gonna be 617 906

28:37

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28:39

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Barbara's, Louis 3615, Meade

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455-4590. Barbara's

33:07

Poultry 466-7338. Barbara's

33:12

Union 477-3833. Barbie

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Louise 343-3938. George

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