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9/25/23: Democrats Freak Over Trump Plus 10 Poll, WGA Reach Agreement, Biden To Picket with UAW, Nazi Honored In Canadian Parliament, Gaetz Shutdown Politics, Menendez Race Card, Bachelor For Olds, Legalized Bribery, Anti Racist Grift

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9/25/23: Democrats Freak Over Trump Plus 10 Poll, WGA Reach Agreement, Biden To Picket with UAW, Nazi Honored In Canadian Parliament, Gaetz Shutdown Politics, Menendez Race Card, Bachelor For Olds, Legalized Bribery, Anti Racist Grift

9/25/23: Democrats Freak Over Trump Plus 10 Poll, WGA Reach Agreement, Biden To Picket with UAW, Nazi Honored In Canadian Parliament, Gaetz Shutdown Politics, Menendez Race Card, Bachelor For Olds, Legalized Bribery, Anti Racist Grift

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0:41

Good morning, everybody, Happy Monday. We

0:43

have an amazing show for everybody today. What do we have, Crystal?

0:46

Indeed, we do lots of interesting stories breaking

0:48

this morning. So first of all, we have a poll that has

0:51

really set DC on fire, that has

0:53

Trump up by ten on

0:55

Joe Biden. So we'll break that down for you.

0:58

How much stocks should you put in it? With a reaction and

1:00

all of that, we'll get into that. We also have President

1:02

Biden doing something that we don't think any US president

1:05

has ever done before, which is heading to the

1:07

picket line in support of auto

1:09

workers into Detroit, So we'll break

1:11

that down for you. We have I

1:13

can't even believe in saying this words, Canada

1:16

honoring a legitimate Ukrainian

1:19

Nazi, Yes, longtime Lensky from

1:21

World War Two alongside Zelenski.

1:23

A lot to reckon with there. We've also got

1:26

update on that centaer Bob Menandez

1:28

who was entitled for cartoonish corruption. He

1:31

has a real excuse for why everyone is turning

1:33

on.

1:33

It couldn't have been.

1:33

The gold bar statue in closet, Sager.

1:37

It's his identity. They're persecuting him.

1:39

It's all wildly unfair, so we'll get into all

1:41

of that. We also have boomers

1:43

apparently the only ones who are watching TV at

1:46

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1:50

get to any of that, this is also a debate week,

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2:24

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2:26

yeah, just in particular and other incentive

2:28

to do so. Right with that, let's get to

2:30

the poll. This poll has a.

2:32

Right for the poll. We had breaking

2:34

news this to morning, right.

2:35

So the writer strike that has been

2:37

ongoing in Hollywood, put this up on the screen for

2:40

one hundred and forty six days. Looks

2:43

like it may be coming to a close.

2:45

They have reached a tentative agreement.

2:48

This you see on the one side of your screen

2:50

is an email that went out to all Writers'

2:53

Guild members. They say, we've reached a tentative

2:55

agreement on a new twenty twenty three MBA, which

2:58

is to say, an agreement in principle on all

3:00

deal points, subject to drafting final contract

3:02

language. That deal, of course, will have to

3:04

go to a vote for the membership. They will have

3:06

to approve whatever has been agreed to. Here you

3:09

also have some comments here.

3:10

We did it.

3:10

We have a tentative deal. Over the coming days, we'll discuss

3:13

and vote on it together as a democratic union.

3:15

But today I want to thank every single WGA

3:17

member and every fellow worker who stood

3:19

with us in solidarity. You made

3:21

this possible. We don't have a lot

3:24

of details yet about what is contained

3:26

in this deal. According to New York Times,

3:28

they said that the writers were able

3:31

to achieve much of what they had demanded, including

3:33

increases in compensation for streaming content

3:35

that was a really critical one, concessions

3:37

from studios on minimum staffing for TV

3:39

shows, guarantees that AI

3:42

tech will not encroach on writers

3:44

credits and compensation, and

3:47

that, apparently Sager was sort of the biggest sticking

3:49

point at the end of the negotiations because,

3:51

I mean, it's kind of understandable since the

3:53

technology is so new and the

3:55

contours of what it's going to mean so undefined

3:58

at this point, that was the piece that they had

4:01

the biggest trouble coming to an agreement

4:03

with. You know, this thing looked like it was

4:05

going to go on forever. There was no movement

4:07

for a long time. Apparently Bob Eyer from Disney

4:10

got involved, and that helped bring the parties back to

4:12

the table and they were able to negotiate.

4:14

This deal comes at a critical juncture,

4:16

as you saw, you know, some cracks beginning to

4:18

emerge, Drew Barrymore, Bill Maher, others planning

4:21

to go back and then facing backlash and deciding

4:23

all right, we're going to hold off. We're not going to restart

4:25

our shows. But it created kind of a dangerous

4:27

situation because if you had a lot of

4:29

these shows begin to go back on air, that

4:31

obviously would have dramatically undercut the negotiating

4:34

leverage of the writers.

4:36

So exciting to see this.

4:37

You still have the actors out, so Hollywood continues

4:39

to be in sort of partial shutdown mode. But this

4:41

is a big development and we'll see what the membership thinks of it.

4:43

That's right.

4:44

Yeah.

4:44

The next step is that the membership themselves have to vote.

4:46

So they've got eleven thousand or so people who members

4:49

of the guild who will vote to ratify said contract.

4:51

I guess Bill Maher was right though that there was movement

4:53

going on behind the scenes, so maybe he knew something

4:56

that was going on. Doesn't necessarily excuse him

4:58

since he was at WAJ member who was planning

5:00

on still crossing said picket line. But

5:03

I do think it is a very positive development. And as you

5:05

were getting to around the AI, one

5:07

of the tricks that the studio can be like, well, we don't know what

5:09

the technology is going to be, so how do we know that we can

5:12

put it in there. The point though, and actually it's very smart

5:14

of them to demand it right now, was to make

5:16

sure that you get some principles and protection

5:18

before before the technology comes.

5:21

Because one of the problems we've always seen from

5:24

unions and really workers across the spectrum

5:26

is that as technology creeps, you

5:28

know, software goes exponential,

5:30

it doesn't move linearly, and so they're

5:32

trying to like move backwards and trying

5:34

to protect impost protections

5:37

after things have already eaten into them. It's

5:39

a smart move to see something on the horizon.

5:41

It's almost like you can imagine, you know, writers

5:44

or for newspapers or something demanding

5:46

protections. In ninety four and the verge

5:48

of the Internet, some smart people saw that.

5:50

But by the time people were trying to make demands

5:52

or renegotiate contracts or renegotiate

5:55

or protect business. But at that point the Internet had completely

5:57

destroyed it. So I think that we've learned a lot

5:59

from the the early days of the Internet, and they made

6:01

the right call by demanding I mean, it was one hundred

6:03

and fifty days. It is a long time ago without paying it

6:05

was a long time people losing housing and

6:07

stuff. It's very tough.

6:08

Yeah, absolutely so a very helpful

6:11

sign that they were able to apparently looks

6:13

like, achieve a lot of what they were looking

6:15

for here. And you know, when I think about

6:17

the writer's strike, the actors strike,

6:19

and the auto workers, these seem like

6:22

very desperate, especially the auto workers in Hollywood

6:24

seem very desparate. But at the core of all

6:26

these struggles are actually that future of technology

6:28

and how workers are going to fit into the

6:30

future and be able to secure their own livelihood

6:33

as technology advances, and the auto workers

6:35

electric vehicles are very much at the center of what's

6:37

going on there and making sure that they're going to be able to still

6:39

have good, union, well paying

6:41

jobs as we transition to electric

6:44

vehicles. And then obviously with the actors and

6:46

the writers, they were concerned about streaming, which

6:48

is kind of, you know, a technology that has already

6:50

been here that they were behind the eight ball on in

6:52

terms of guaranteeing and securing their own

6:54

livelihoods there and then the future

6:57

with you know, llms and AI

6:59

being to increasingly substitute

7:02

for writers that's what the studios

7:04

wanted, and being able to use likenesses

7:06

to.

7:07

Substitute for actors.

7:08

So they're trying to get ahead of things there, and we'll see what

7:10

the actors are able to negotiate, but you

7:12

know, we'll await details, we'll await

7:15

reaction from the members themselves who have to take

7:17

a look at this and see if it is sufficient. But it

7:19

all seems really encouraging, and

7:21

another example where labor

7:23

has been able to secure

7:26

some real gains for themselves through

7:29

the union process, through the strike

7:31

er potential strike process. Same thing we saw with UPS

7:33

and the Teamsters, which is really

7:36

different from what we've seen most of our lives.

7:38

All these contract negotiations have been workers

7:41

taking concessions. The fact

7:43

that you have even a handful of instances

7:45

of things going in the other direction is

7:47

a really stunning and very hopeful development.

7:49

Absolutely, all right, So now we'll actually get

7:51

to the ball, yes, all right, So what happened

7:54

these pulls, the shaking Washington to

7:56

its very foundation, especially

7:58

over at the White House. Let's go and put up

8:00

there on the screen the reason why everybody

8:02

is paying attention. A twenty twenty four

8:05

national general election poll of

8:07

registered voters Trump fifty

8:09

two percent, Biden forty

8:12

two percent, a ten point margin

8:14

for former President Trump in this

8:16

head head to head race. Now,

8:19

there's a lot of questions actually about this poll and

8:21

the freak out of which we will get to. Let's

8:23

actually put the Washington Post's a

8:25

tear sheet up there on the screen. Who reported

8:27

this. The very way that they reported this,

8:29

Crystal is one of the most bizarre things

8:32

I have ever seen. The headline out of this

8:34

is very obviously Trump is beating Biden

8:36

by ten points. Instead, what they write

8:39

is post ABC poll, Biden faces

8:41

criticism on economy, immigration, and

8:43

height. Now, don't get me wrong, that's definitely a story.

8:45

They talk about his disapproval rating, of which we're going to

8:47

get to a little bit about the favorability

8:49

of some of the candidates. But you have to go almost

8:52

eighteen paragraphs down in this thing

8:54

before they actually mentioned the ten

8:56

point margin that Trump is beating Biden

8:59

by in their very own poll. Now, let's

9:01

of course, let's emphasize all

9:03

of the obvious. It's an outlier.

9:05

You know, do I really think Trump, if it comes

9:07

down to it, if he wins, Do I really think he's gonna win

9:10

by ten points?

9:10

No?

9:11

Is it?

9:12

Certainly? You know, an eight hundred and ninety

9:14

registered voters, relatively smaller sample

9:17

size. You know, are we going to treat this as gospel? Are we

9:19

going to say this is an exact snapshot of

9:21

the race.

9:21

No.

9:21

What we're gonna do is we're gonna look at the overall

9:24

average, and we're going to look at some of the more important

9:26

factors, like how is approval of president,

9:28

how approval of the job, what is? Things

9:31

aren't issue by issue, which historically

9:33

have always been important. But we

9:35

still have to lead with the news here.

9:37

I mean, so, what did you think of their decision to

9:40

basically basically bury

9:42

the biggest lead out of their story.

9:44

I think they were a little bit embarrassed by it, and of

9:47

course they still got the pushback from

9:49

the Washington establishment regardless of their

9:51

framing on the story.

9:52

I mean, in a sense, I think they should be embarrassed

9:54

because I wouldn't believe a poll that said

9:56

either one of these candidates was winning by double

9:58

jugeons, Like the country is just too

10:01

closely to use. It's not going

10:03

to be a ten point election, not going to

10:05

happen. So I think I

10:07

kind of understand their embarrassment with this.

10:10

Nate come to me made the most

10:12

salient point, which is like, listen,

10:15

I you know, kudos to them for even

10:17

publishing this thing, because they knew they were going

10:19

to get a pile on and all the language about like

10:21

it's an outlier, just so you know, it's an outlier.

10:23

And they dig into the sub groups here

10:25

and show some results that just seem again kind

10:27

of farcical on their face, like voters under thirty

10:29

five, I think we're going for Trump by like twenty points. That's

10:32

not reality. I mean, there's no other data

10:34

that backs that up. So he's like,

10:37

on the one hand, kudos to them for publishing

10:39

this, but on the other hand, this is the second poll that they've

10:41

had in a row that's an outlier in this

10:43

way. So there's clearly something going on

10:46

with your methodology that if you aren't standing

10:48

behind it, you need to fix it or you need

10:50

to dig into what's going on here that's creating

10:52

these.

10:53

Results that are really different.

10:54

And if you believe the methodology

10:56

and you think that this is the accurate numbers

10:59

and more accurately reflective than every

11:01

other poll which shows a very different race,

11:04

you know where it's basically, you know, a coin toss

11:06

between the two of them. If you believe that,

11:08

then stand behind it. If you don't, then change your

11:10

methodology and explain what's going on.

11:11

Absolutely well said, that's the thing is, like they're not changing

11:14

their methodology. Clearly they're like a

11:16

little bit torn about it. But I think they should have just

11:18

led with that. The thing is, though, and there's another one.

11:20

NBC News did a deeper poll that

11:23

actually gets to some of the things that the Post

11:25

was trying to package. Let's put

11:27

this up there on the screen. You can actually see

11:29

some of these graphics. These were the most interesting.

11:31

If the election for president were held today,

11:34

for whom would you vote? Biden forty six,

11:36

Trump forty six. That sounds very much

11:38

like what it actually looks like. They pulled some of the other

11:40

candidates, Ron DeSantis. They had Biden forty six to Santus

11:43

forty five. This one, I'm still trying to

11:45

wrap my head around. Biden forty one Nicki

11:47

Haley forty six. I think my only hope is

11:49

that America doesn't know enough about Nicki Haley, but

11:52

they actually this was even more interesting. I'm curious

11:54

what you think of this. Look at how they included

11:57

third parties. So there they had Biden

11:59

thirty six, Trump thirty nine,

12:01

Libertarian candidate five, No Labels

12:04

candidate five, Green Party candidate

12:06

four. So you can see that actually both candidates

12:08

lose a pretty significant margin to the libertarian

12:11

and No Labels candidate as well, with the Green

12:13

Party largely likely drawing from Democrats.

12:15

So you could see there though that's very reminiscent

12:17

of the nineteen ninety two election,

12:20

where neither candidate actually won't even close

12:22

to the popular vote. Clinton was only elected

12:24

forty two percent of the vote because Ross

12:26

pro was there, but he of course won an outright

12:28

majority in the electoral college. At

12:30

George HW. Bush long believed that Ross

12:32

Parrot had cost him the election. But

12:35

it's interesting though, because of course, I mean the No Labels

12:37

candidate, we don't know even if that's going to exist. It's

12:39

not a necessarily on the ballot, but libertarian

12:41

people, libertarian, Green Party are one hundred percent on

12:43

the ballot, and you could see that they're definitely drawing margin from

12:45

Trump and they're definitely drawn margin from

12:47

Biden. So there is not a sizable, but what

12:50

ten percent or so of the overall electorate

12:52

which is definitely drawing from those two

12:54

candidates in a head to head race. And you know,

12:56

that's a pathetic margin if you're going to have a effectively

12:59

a duopoly where they're only able to garner

13:01

individually thirty six thirty nine percent of what

13:03

kind of system were we living in where these people are getting

13:05

elected with one third of the actual popular welt.

13:08

That's nuts, and where the overwhelming majority of Americans

13:10

are like, please, but not another Biden Trump

13:12

rematch. And it's like, here we go, another Biden Trump

13:14

rematch. I mean, look, it's more data that shows

13:17

that the third party candidates tend to take more from Biden

13:19

than they do for Trump. Yeah, right, with

13:21

label, it's about right, it's about three

13:24

percentage points. You know, I don't know

13:26

the breakdown of I would expect libertarian

13:29

maybe takes more. I really don't know, but it's

13:31

more data that shows the third party candidates tend to

13:33

hurt the Democrats more.

13:34

However, let me say is.

13:37

The ten point marchin for Trump in

13:39

the Washington Post ABC poll accurate.

13:41

No doesn't mean that they don't have an issue

13:43

here, No, it does not. I mean they

13:46

have bigger problems right now than

13:48

even worrying about these third party candids. They

13:50

need to fix their own health to begin

13:52

with here, because listen, if

13:55

Trump is who they say is, and listen,

13:57

I thought the Trump administration was

13:59

horrible on a number of levels. The

14:01

tax cuts for the rich, the chaos during

14:04

COVID January sixth, and trying to

14:06

steal the election. All of these things were hard on as

14:08

he's facing ninety one charges, ninety one criminal

14:10

indictments, and you're tied, Like that's

14:12

your best case scenario is you're tied with this

14:15

dude. You need to do some real soul searching

14:17

about your guy and about what has gone wrong in

14:19

this administration that this thing could even be

14:21

close. And let's recall,

14:24

let's assume the state of play is that they're even

14:26

in terms of the polls. That is a way

14:28

better position than Trump has ever been in in twenty

14:30

sixteen or twenty twenty. Now, he ends up losing

14:33

in twenty twenty, but it was close,

14:35

so yes, they should be deeply

14:38

concerned, and it is insanely pathetic

14:41

that this should be the state of the race right

14:43

now, given the fact they had for

14:45

a while they had total democratic control

14:48

of this town. You know, they were able

14:50

to do what they wanted. And I

14:52

really think it comes down to three

14:54

things. Number one is Joe Biden's age,

14:57

you know, just in terms of that instant

14:59

reaction at the sky or like, I just don't

15:01

even know if he's going to make it the next term.

15:03

It's a real problem, Okay.

15:04

I think an even bigger problem is

15:07

the combination of inflation and

15:09

the fact that you have had all of these pandemic

15:12

error programs that have gone away that have left

15:14

people way more cash strapped than

15:16

they were at the beginning of the administration.

15:18

So you can imagine how people

15:20

are looking back and going geez. If

15:23

I think about how I was personally doing during

15:25

the Trump administration versus during the Biden administration,

15:27

I don't know. I you know, there may be a

15:29

lot of things I don't like about Donald Trump, but because

15:32

those programs have all been taken away

15:34

under a democratic administration, as much as

15:36

they may be doing things long term down the road, that

15:38

I like, and I think will be positive for the American working

15:40

class. The reality is today

15:43

people have less money in their bank accounts

15:45

and are having a harder time feeding their families,

15:47

and that is what is showing up in these pools.

15:49

Yes, and actually, you know to the point about the outlier

15:51

and all that, and why part of the reason I don't think it even

15:53

matters. Put this up there. This is an average

15:55

that Harry Entton put out in terms of

15:57

all national polls just from the last month. Quinnipiac

15:59

had by up by one. The Journal had a

16:01

tie, NBC News has a tie, CNN

16:03

has Trump plus one, CBS

16:06

has Trump plus one, Fox News Trump plus

16:08

two, ABC, Washington Post Trump plus nine.

16:10

The median of those is Trump one and

16:12

the average is Trump two. But here's

16:14

the thing. Trump won the election

16:17

in twenty sixteen, and he didn't even win

16:19

the popular vote. I think believe he will ask the popular vote

16:21

by a couple of points. So if he's leading by

16:23

one on average, let's say the margin

16:25

of error on that is two, he could easily

16:27

lose two. He could lose the popular vote by

16:30

an easy margin of one percent. Given California

16:32

and New York. He did absolutely clean up

16:34

in the electoral college. The thing is, and I actually

16:36

saw some experienced posters say this, what you really

16:38

want for Biden is you can disregard

16:41

any of the outlier pols for Trump. Where are

16:43

the outlier pols for Biden. We haven't seen a

16:45

single one from a national polling company

16:48

that has come out, from any major outlet

16:50

that has shown you know, remember those Hillary

16:52

era polls Trump Hillary

16:54

plus sixteen, Hillary plus

16:56

nineteen even I'll never forget, what was it

16:59

Wisconsin had Biden winning by nineteen points

17:01

that ABC Washington Post pole, I believe,

17:03

I mean, he barely went it by one or two in

17:06

twenty twenty. So my point is is that you

17:08

need to see some major outliers to

17:10

assume some sort of strength. Let's give the

17:12

counter to this. Polls are totally wrong in

17:14

twenty twenty two. We also, you know,

17:16

know that the special elections of which we just

17:19

covered in our last show, they're all trending

17:21

heavily democratic. We're seeing a major Democratic turnout.

17:23

Abortion is very much, you know, some sort of sleeping

17:26

giant for a lot of Democratic voters.

17:28

It's very likely that a lot of people who never voted in

17:30

the past are definitely going to come out to vote this time around,

17:32

juicing voter participation. A lot

17:34

of people were willing to overlook their

17:36

economic conditions because they hate stop to steal

17:38

and they hate pro live candidates. So there's

17:40

a lot of case. There's also a good case I think,

17:43

to just you know, keep calm and carry on if

17:45

I am the Biden team as pathetic as it is, but

17:47

age is just one they're not getting around as

17:49

we tease, though Washington is very much

17:51

not happy. Go and put these up there on the

17:53

screen. Larry Sabateau over at

17:56

the crystal Ball no relation,

17:58

he says, ignoring the Washington votes. It's a ridiculous

18:00

outlier. My question, how could you even publish a poll so

18:02

absurd on its face? Will be a lingering embarrassment

18:05

for you. Again, from what you can see, it's really really hard

18:07

to release these outline polls. So you've got

18:09

to give credit to the ABC posts. But I do give

18:11

a major quibble here. If you release constructive

18:13

of outlining poll results are seven R

18:16

ten, you don't get to dismiss your own results.

18:18

I definitely agree with that, and I think that the point

18:20

is that the point is that

18:23

for the freak out. It just shows the underlying

18:25

insecurity of you have an

18:27

eighty one year old man who's running for reelection

18:30

and you can't see a single one

18:32

to even boost the ego a little bit that has

18:34

you winning by plus ten or plus eleven, which

18:36

in their minds, they deserve to win

18:38

the election by that much, and they should be, in

18:40

my opinion, they should be running scared for where they

18:42

are right now.

18:43

I think they are.

18:44

Yeah.

18:44

It also is not lost on me that this poll

18:46

comes at a moment when there was already

18:49

a sort of collective freak out

18:51

among elite media about Biden being the

18:53

nominee again and about Kamal Harris being the

18:55

vice presidential nominee again. Do I

18:57

think, Look, there's a lot of speculation like, oh, maybe

19:00

still going to drop out, Maybe they're still going to have like

19:02

a real primary process. I don't expect

19:04

that, even though I think it would be the right thing to do.

19:07

I think it would improve their chances if

19:09

you were able to have a competitive democratic

19:11

primary process where people could actually evaluate

19:14

their options and maybe get behind a candidate they actually

19:16

feel excited about and actually feel confident is going

19:18

to make it through the next four years. I'm not

19:20

hopeful that that's going to happen, but I'm sure

19:22

all of that pressure around are

19:25

we really once again going with Joe Biden

19:27

as the nominee is only going to increase

19:29

which is part of why they're such a freak out around

19:32

this pole right now as well.

19:33

Yeah, so all right, that's your takeaway.

19:37

All right.

19:38

So at the same time, we've got some big news with

19:40

regard to the United Auto Workers

19:42

ongoing strike against the Big three

19:45

automakers. So put this up

19:47

on the screen. Joe Biden making a big announcement last

19:49

week, under pressure both from within his own

19:51

party but also from the

19:54

Republicans and the fact that Trump is

19:56

going to Michigan. He announced

19:58

that this Tuesday tomorrow, I

20:01

will go to Michigan to join the picket

20:03

line and stand in solidarity with the men and

20:05

women of UAW as they fight for

20:07

a fair share of the value they helped create.

20:10

It's time for a win win agreement

20:12

that keeps American auto manufacturing thriving

20:14

with well paid UAW jobs. Put the

20:17

next piece up on the screen. So, as far

20:19

as we know, this is

20:21

actually the first time that a

20:23

sitting president has ever

20:26

gone to stand in solidarity with

20:28

workers at a picket line. I was

20:30

talking to Jeff Stein at the Washington Post. He has been

20:32

talking to labor historians to find out if there's

20:34

any precedent for it. No one

20:36

quite knows one hundred percent for sure. Yeah,

20:39

but you know, that seems to be an indication that

20:41

this has probably never happened before. What they keep

20:43

saying is at least in one hundred years, this hasn't

20:46

happened. Maybe something happened earlier in the history

20:48

of the Republic, but you would think it would have

20:50

been a big enough deal even at that time

20:53

for there to be some sort of news

20:55

and recording of the event. So, as far as we know,

20:58

this is the first time a sitting president

21:00

has walked a picket line, per Mother Jones.

21:02

They say it's not unusual for politicians

21:04

to walk a picket line. Candidates often make a point

21:06

of dropping by with donuts and coffee. In twenty

21:08

twenty, but Biden did march outside the Palms

21:10

in Las Vegas with casino workers. But

21:13

no sitting president has ever walked a picket line with striking

21:15

workers. They have historically been much more prone

21:17

to extravagant shows of solidarity with the

21:19

companies that are trying to break those strikes,

21:22

and they were called that in eighteen ninety four, where

21:24

over Cleveland sent two thousand federal troops

21:26

to Chicago to break a railroad strike.

21:29

Biden has yet to announce exactly where in

21:31

Michigan he will be, but they say it's a

21:33

safe bet that wherever he ends up going, the National Guard

21:35

thankfully will not be coming with him. So

21:38

this is a huge deal, it really

21:40

is. There's no way to sort of oversell

21:42

this. Democrats had increasingly been

21:44

pushing him to go. You'd already had a number of Democratic

21:47

politicians, including John Fetterman and Rocanna

21:49

and other local Michigan representatives

21:52

who had shown up on the picket line, especially

21:54

after Trump announced that he on

21:57

debate night is going to give a speech

21:59

to union workers past and

22:01

present. I think they felt

22:03

increasing pressure that Biden needed

22:06

to do a little more and be a little

22:08

visible to stake his claim that he

22:10

is the person who was really truly standing alongside

22:12

these workers. And so looks like this

22:15

is gonna happen, which is pretty extraordinary.

22:17

Yeah, you know, so, I also looked into

22:19

it in terms of the history. Everyone keeps saying

22:21

one hundred years. But I've been trying

22:23

to look past and think about the

22:25

major labor era. I also cannot really

22:27

think even the best friends of labor who

22:30

are in the White House, people like FDR.

22:32

Well, FDR for obvious reason, is not gonna be joining a picket

22:34

line. But you know, in terms of issuing

22:38

statements of support and all that. The other

22:40

reason why politically I think this is a very smart

22:42

move is that there are sixty six

22:44

thousand UAW workers crystal in

22:47

the state of Michigan. Just in Michigan.

22:49

Yeah, so that's sixty six thousand

22:52

people who are organized

22:54

and they like to vote. A lot of these union folks.

22:56

So we should not forget. Why

22:58

did Mitt Romney blow Michigan

23:01

so badly back in twenty twelve because

23:03

of the two thousand and either eight or nine op

23:05

ed that he wrote which has said let Detroit go bankrupt,

23:08

that was plastered all over the state

23:10

and he lost it by a massive margin.

23:13

And then all of a sudden Trump comes around and

23:15

wins the state by a fraction of a point

23:17

in twenty sixteen. That is one of the craziest

23:19

things that has ever happened. Well, why did Trump

23:21

win it? Because a, a lot of people

23:23

stayed home, a lot of urban voters who did

23:25

not feel excited by Hillary, and he split

23:27

the union vote by a pretty historic margin for a

23:30

Republican presidential candidate. And it was largely

23:33

on talk of Lordstown. It was talk of

23:35

GM, it was talk of NAFTA,

23:37

and it was specifically speaking to a lot

23:39

of these people concerned. So one of the reasons

23:41

why I think that this is actually a net benefit

23:44

is we finally have two candidates who are recording

23:46

union workers in the state of Michigan,

23:48

which is a complete inversion from

23:50

the Obama era. Like I'm kind

23:52

of with you, you know, but I'm still embracing

23:55

NAFTA, free trade and all this other which

23:57

is screwing you. As opposed to Romney, He's like,

23:59

no, no, I literally want to see you die and collapse.

24:02

So to see that inversion is

24:05

and of course, look it's all in rhetoric, but your rhetoric

24:07

at least precedes something. Usually to

24:10

see that happen, I think is a very benefit

24:12

to the country.

24:13

Trump, in terms of his record as president,

24:15

as you guys know, was a horrific union buster,

24:17

There's no doubt about it. However, I do think the fact

24:19

that he rhetorically approaches these issues

24:22

in a different at least giving sort of like token

24:24

or symbolic gestures towards

24:26

the plight of the workers, I think has changed

24:28

public sentiment because you know,

24:31

back under the Obama era, there was a really hard

24:33

to divide about how Republicans versus Democrats

24:35

felt about unions, and there's still a split.

24:37

I mean, Democrats are still way more favorable towards

24:40

unions, towards labor, towards these strikes in particular,

24:42

than Republicans are. But you no consistently

24:44

have polls that show Republican the Republican

24:47

base, not the elites who still continue to be

24:49

union busters overwhelmingly, but the Republican

24:51

base showing support for unions and standing

24:54

on the side of striking workers. I

24:56

think that the rhetorical shift,

24:59

even though again in terms of the record it's total

25:01

bullshit, but in the rhetorical shift,

25:03

I think has opened up a space among

25:06

the Republican base, combined with the fact,

25:08

I mean, the pandemic changed everything. You

25:10

know, the pandemic really changed the way people are thinking

25:13

about this. We all lived under the specter of

25:15

seeing these corporations making literally

25:17

record breaking profits and then using

25:19

excuse of inflation just further price

25:21

gouge everyone. And so you

25:24

know, that kind of changed the way people feel

25:26

about these labor disputes. So not only

25:28

is it smart because Biden is kind of

25:30

one upping Trump yere in terms of what he's actually

25:32

doing. Trump isn't speaking directly the auto workers.

25:35

There isn't any expectation he's going to walk the picket

25:37

line. All is rhetoric has been on the one

25:39

hand, like I sort of in theory support the workers

25:41

and screw electric vehicles. On the other hand,

25:44

like this kind of anti union union

25:46

bossed traditional Republican language.

25:49

So it's not only smart from that perspective, but also

25:51

you know, it's not just the union workers

25:54

who stand on side of the union

25:56

workers. You have something like seventy

25:58

five percent of the public is on the

26:00

side of the workers over the bosses

26:03

in this dispute. So it

26:05

is not that's why this is so politically

26:07

safe for him, and why it's such an extraordinary

26:10

moment that created the conditions where

26:12

even someone who's been this lifelong,

26:15

like you know, centrist, demoderate kind

26:17

of a guy, can do something that again

26:19

is in terms of history truly extraordinary

26:22

and has, as far as we know, literally never happened

26:24

before.

26:24

One reason I know that the political dynamics

26:26

have changed is back in the twenty

26:29

tens era, there was an entire

26:31

GOP like media ecosystem

26:33

dedicated to like attack remember the whole Scott Walker

26:35

thing, Bini Scott Walker. Yeah,

26:37

attack the teachers, teacher pay, all

26:39

that other stuff. I don't see any of that right now.

26:42

Like in terms of Twitter and YouTube

26:44

and GOP like work, like base

26:46

media, they're not consuming anti union content.

26:48

It doesn't even exist, it doesn't register a

26:51

I think that's two things. One is obviously the base

26:53

moved long past or they agree.

26:55

You know, in many cases, a lot of these people culturally are

26:57

very much with the Republican Party's look

27:00

at it gets a little you know, queasy if

27:02

you're trying to attack their overall economic demands.

27:04

But as you said, Trump has just moved on from

27:06

that. He's pushed a lot of the people the most

27:09

MAGA type influencer. I have not

27:11

seen one single individual

27:13

a Charlie Kirk, Jack Pisobie, any

27:15

of these folks attack the UAW strike. If

27:18

anything, they've posted stuff at Shapiro has se

27:20

he's different. Shapiro

27:23

is not a Trump guy. He is a og member

27:25

of the Tea Party. The libertarian fact. I mean, remember

27:28

he was attacking Trump for being too liberal back

27:30

in twenty sixteen. So I would not put

27:32

it in that way.

27:33

I'm just saying there is still some union

27:35

busting conservative media out there, so it's not like

27:37

it's all gone. But the moment is very different

27:39

from I mean Scott Walker in that moment that.

27:41

Was totally the conservative cause.

27:43

To let Chris Christy came to

27:45

Republican conservative prominence from like

27:47

yelling at teacher unions and being super anti

27:49

union in the state of New Jersey, and so it

27:52

was a very very different moment energy

27:54

wise within the Republican Party, even as

27:57

you know, the policy in terms of what they

27:59

actually do when they're and government hasn't changed,

28:01

but the rhetoric, the attitude, what's

28:03

like the beating heart of the Republican movement

28:06

has in terms of where the online

28:08

energy is has definitely radically

28:11

shifted. And you know, that does

28:13

create a real opening for working

28:15

people, which is part of what we're seeing in part

28:17

of again, what I think is like one of the most hopeful stories

28:19

in the entire country at this point. At

28:22

the same time, we have the UAW

28:25

announcing that they are expanding

28:27

the strike, and some of the details here

28:29

are really quite interesting. Put this

28:31

up on the screen. This is from Jacobin's reporting.

28:34

So as of Friday, they announced

28:36

five thousand war members of the United

28:39

Auto Workers at thirty eight parts

28:41

distribution centers for Stalantis

28:43

and GM walked off the job.

28:45

Those facilities spread across twenty states.

28:48

So you'll note they did not increase

28:50

the strike on Ford, and the

28:52

reason being apparently they've made a lot

28:55

more progress in their negotiations

28:57

with Ford, where the union enjoys

28:59

a better RelA relationship and there's been more

29:01

of a give and take, and apparently Ford has already

29:03

met a number, although not all, of their demands.

29:06

So they did not escalate at Ford. They

29:08

are only escalating at Stalantis and

29:10

GM. So they say those five thousand

29:13

workers joined the thirteen thousand that

29:15

were already out at assembly plants in Ohio,

29:17

Michigan, and Missouri. One of

29:19

the things that I thought was really interesting here

29:22

and shows the

29:24

savviness, I guess, of this stand

29:26

up strike strategy that they're using, where

29:28

instead of everybody going out at once,

29:30

they're picking and choosing and sort

29:32

of, you know, keeping the companies off balance

29:34

and showing that they can extract

29:37

more pain from the companies if they want

29:39

to and if they're not getting what they need at the negotiating

29:41

table. So they added these parts

29:43

distribution centers to the

29:45

mix. That is apparently a very profitable

29:48

part of the company's business. They

29:50

sell after sales spare parts and

29:52

accessories to dealerships. Sean

29:55

Fayn talked to Labor Notes and he said,

29:57

why strike those parts distribution centers.

29:59

Well, they's several reasons. One of our issues is ending

30:02

tiers. The parts distribution

30:04

centers are a big example of that. Their

30:06

wages were capped at twenty five dollars

30:08

some years back, during the greatest times in the history of these

30:11

companies, and that's got to change. So

30:13

that's part of why they're going in this direction

30:15

to make a point about the unfairness for the workers

30:18

at those particular facilities. Let's

30:20

put the map up on the screen so you can see how widespread

30:22

this strike is. So they started with just a handful

30:25

of large scale facilities

30:28

and now auto assembly

30:30

plans where they actually finished the products. Now you

30:32

have these parts distribution centers, which you can see are

30:34

literally all over the country coast to coast, So

30:37

you know, from you've

30:39

got Connecticut, you've got DC

30:42

area, you've got Charlotte, You've got

30:44

Florida, You've got California, You've

30:46

got Oregon, You've got of course

30:49

a lot in that industrial Midwest,

30:51

Indiana, Michigan.

30:52

Ohio, et cetera. So that's where

30:54

they are now.

30:55

We haven't got any updates about if there have been additional

30:57

progress in the talks since they expanded

31:00

strike, but interesting to see

31:02

the strategy that they're deploying here.

31:03

It's very interesting. Yeah, I mean, I especially enjoy

31:06

that factoid around what was going

31:08

on with Ford and about how they're

31:11

able to flex up and now. It's actually

31:13

one of the benefits, I believe, of the new strategy

31:15

which you've educated me on versus a stand

31:18

up strike as opposed to this more targeted strike,

31:20

that you can expand and

31:22

contract and target the particular

31:24

people that are coming to you with different

31:26

demands contracts in order to benefit. So

31:29

I'm curious, I mean, what do you think in terms of

31:31

the movement, the fact if Ford is being

31:33

much more forthcoming in some of the demands,

31:35

you know, maybe this one won't have to drag one hundred

31:38

and fifty day, especially if they're going to ramp up the pain like

31:40

part distribution. We already saw

31:42

how the Chips crisis in twenty twenty

31:44

one devastated the American car

31:46

market and especially the Big Three. Their

31:48

inability to import and to have the

31:51

inputs into their cars just destroyed,

31:53

you know, overall the price and a lot of the profits

31:55

in the bottom line that the company was already having.

31:57

So if they're able to do this, I mean, you could cripple critical

31:59

infrastructure so quickly. Yeah, for these for

32:01

these cars.

32:02

Listen, I have no idea, but if

32:04

I had to guess, there's a lot of pressure

32:06

on these automakers.

32:07

Right now.

32:08

You have the fricking president, former and

32:11

current presidents of the United States

32:13

coming to Michigan, and you know,

32:15

Biden overtly being on the side of the workers.

32:17

Trump mixed bag. But that's a lot of pressure

32:19

being put directly on you if you are

32:22

a Big Three executive. Now you have

32:24

the news that Ford is offering

32:26

some significant concessions and getting at

32:28

least part of the way there in terms of the

32:30

worker demands. That applies additional

32:32

pressure onto Stilantis and onto

32:35

GM and then when you have this,

32:37

you know, this strategy that sort of creates chaos

32:40

and shows that they they can last

32:42

a long time with their strike fund is pretty full.

32:44

Since they're not going on all at once, they can

32:46

really stretch that strike fund. And in a lot of ways,

32:48

strikes are a game of chicken, right who's going to blink

32:51

first, Who's going to say this pain is

32:53

too great for me? And really,

32:55

you know, have to give way and come to the table

32:57

and give up some concessions. Right now,

32:59

I think the autoworkers have positioned themselves very

33:01

well. Now, I should say there has been some

33:03

dissent within the union of some of the

33:05

workers really wanted everyone to go out at once

33:08

and have a big show of force and really stand in

33:10

solidarity together. And you know, I think Sean

33:12

Fain was sympathetic to that view, but ultimately

33:14

decided this was the safier tactic. There

33:16

are risks to the stand up

33:18

strike strategy that is more targeted versus

33:21

everybody going out all at once. The risks

33:23

are that you don't have everybody participating

33:25

in the same way. There can be a breakdown

33:28

in solidarity. It requires a lot

33:30

of discipline for every worker at every

33:32

facility to know exactly what their part

33:34

is and what the rules and guidelines are and what they're supposed

33:36

to be doing when so, there is like a risk

33:39

on the other.

33:39

Side of that.

33:40

But so far, I feel

33:42

like the auto workers have a lot more leverage

33:44

and power in this situation than the big

33:47

three do. So one of the points of leverage that automakers

33:50

and also like CNBC and the Business press

33:52

or whatever are trying to use as this idea

33:54

that all the strike is going to cause car prices

33:56

to go up. Sean Faine not that

33:58

one down pretty easily when he was asked

34:00

about it.

34:01

Let's take a listen.

34:01

Companies chose to put us in this position because

34:04

they had eight weeks

34:06

to get a contract, and they chose for seven

34:08

weeks to screw around and do nothing. They

34:10

got serious in the last week. This isn't on

34:12

the UAW workers. When bad

34:15

things happen, and things are happening right now, it's all

34:17

because the companies. They own it. It's on their shoulders.

34:19

So you deny that it's going to hurt the consumers in the

34:21

long run.

34:22

What's hurt the consumers in the long run is the fact

34:24

that companies have raised prices on vehicles thirty

34:26

five percent in the last four years,

34:29

just our wages went up six percent. The

34:31

CEO pay went up forty percent. Profits

34:33

have been into billions, the hundreds of billions they

34:36

own.

34:36

All of this, that's what's concent I

34:39

mean, it's pretty hard to argue with those numbers. Like, listen,

34:41

our wages are not the problem, because guess what,

34:44

we've been getting screwed on wages ever since

34:46

basically the two thousand and eight recession, even before

34:48

that. Actually put this up on the screen from Heather Long.

34:51

She highlights that US auto

34:53

workers have seen their paychecks plunge further

34:55

from ninety three to twenty twenty three than any

34:58

other of the one hundred and sixty SI industries

35:00

we regularly track. In the early nineties,

35:02

autoworkers with the top paid rank and file

35:05

workers. Now they are middle of the

35:07

pack. And I think the title for that chart

35:09

there where they say now autoworkers just

35:11

another job, kind of says it all. The

35:13

autoworker used to be the sort of gold

35:16

standard, rock solid, middle

35:18

class job. It was this iconic

35:20

industry where the understanding was if you worked

35:23

there and you did the job, you were going to be able

35:25

to have the basics of a stable middle class

35:27

life that has been eaten away, and

35:29

so autoworker wages have suffered

35:31

more than those of workers in any

35:34

other industry.

35:35

So for them to turn around and be like, oh, it's your fault.

35:37

The car prices are so high when they've

35:39

been taking a haircut, and when their

35:41

labor makes up a grand total of like five

35:43

percent of the cost of a new car,

35:46

it just doesn't hold water.

35:47

It doesn't hold any water, as you said, And I think

35:49

that the most important point is that these

35:51

are not people who've been getting paid well. They've actually

35:53

been underpaid for more than a decade. They

35:55

got massive haircut after two thousand

35:57

and eight, and are just trying to keep pace with inflation,

36:00

with any of the demands and all the flexibilities

36:02

and all the things that the white collar workforce and many blue

36:04

collar workers have been able to demand.

36:06

They find themselves as part of an America's critical

36:09

security or critical economic

36:11

infrastructure and are using you know, I

36:13

mean again, you know, without them the big they

36:16

could have decided not to take the haircut, and they

36:18

would have all gotten completely bussed. Two

36:20

thousand and eight. They did the car makers,

36:22

the Big three, a big favor, and don't forget

36:24

all of us saved the auto industry.

36:26

And I think that was the correct decision back

36:29

then. But you know, one of the things is that they

36:31

have just been able to make fantastic profits,

36:33

and more importantly, the executives, the shareholders

36:35

have all benefited. The workforce itself is the only

36:37

one who has not since the I think

36:40

GM I believe still owes billions of dollars

36:42

to the US government. So let's all not forget

36:45

about what happened, you know, not that long ago.

36:47

Yeah, very true, very true.

36:48

All right, let's move on Ukraine. This is

36:50

the story which I have. I couldn't I couldn't

36:53

believe when I first saw it, and the more that we research

36:55

it, the more insane it actually gets.

36:57

President Zelenski was here in Washington with

37:00

his hand had out asking for twenty

37:02

five billion more from the US Congress. By all

37:04

accounts, they'll probably give it to him, although we might have an

37:06

interim shutdown in the meantime. But

37:08

after that he visited fellow NATO ally

37:10

Canada. And while he was in Canada, justin

37:13

Trudeau and the Canadian Parliament decided

37:15

to honor President Selensky in a session

37:17

very much like we had our joint session,

37:19

where they featured a quote Ukrainian

37:22

freedom fighter. And it turns

37:24

out that that Ukrainian fighter who

37:26

fought in World War Two, as they described it,

37:28

was a literal Nazi. Here's

37:31

how they described it. Though at the time,

37:33

let's take a listen.

37:34

Lelensky's speech received at least a

37:36

dozen standing ovations. There

37:40

was also one for this man, a

37:42

ninety eight year old Ukrainian Canadian

37:44

who fought for Ukrainian independence

37:46

against the Russians during the Second World

37:48

War.

37:49

Fighting for Ukrainian independence against the Russians

37:51

in the Second World War certainly one way to say

37:53

it, the other way to say it. Let's put this up there on

37:55

the screen, our friend yegor Is. It

37:57

was called the SS Division Galicia,

38:00

which changed its name to the

38:02

First Ukrainian Division in April of nineteen

38:04

forty five, after already losing the war,

38:06

the same month that Hitler killed himself. Calling

38:08

a quote ninety eight year old SS veteran

38:11

a Ukrainian veteran is like calling Adolf

38:13

Eichmann an Argentinian farmer.

38:15

This is no joke, Crystal. This was straight

38:18

up This is not like he was a Wehrmached

38:20

soldier. No straight up Waffen

38:23

SS actual Nazi

38:26

soldier in the Second World

38:28

War. A division, by the way, the SS

38:30

Division Galicia implicated in

38:33

several horrific

38:35

instances during the Second World War,

38:37

specifically targeting the Polish people,

38:40

who are very much waking up to this. The

38:42

fact this is not a bigger scandal in

38:44

the United States, and really even in

38:46

Canada, who is only just now waking up to this and

38:48

took a long time to even acknowledge

38:50

or even apologize more than twenty four

38:52

to forty eight hours after this incident, is

38:55

outrageous. Put this up there

38:57

on the screen. This is actually from a university professor

39:00

historian. There he says, quote, these are

39:02

the photos for those who are watching can

39:04

see of the S Scalicia Division veteran

39:06

who was given standing ovation by the Canadian

39:08

Parliament. He published these himself

39:11

of his division in training in

39:13

Germany, standing in the middle of the first photo,

39:16

second on the left. In the second photo. If we want to go

39:18

ahead and show that one and without a helmet near

39:20

the machine gun in that photo, I mean one

39:22

of the things is he volunteered

39:25

in nineteen forty three, okay,

39:27

in the Turnopyl region of western

39:30

Ukraine, which means he fought and served

39:32

in this division at the exact times

39:35

when it was both commissioned and was implicated

39:37

in multiple atrocities, as I said,

39:40

in the region. And unfortunately,

39:42

look, this is going to be you already know, this

39:44

is going buck wild in Russia because they're like,

39:46

of course, you know, they literally honored a

39:48

Nazi. But also raises the uncomfortable

39:51

truth of which many people in the West don't want to

39:53

talk about. Is yeah, there are some Nazi

39:55

affiliated groups in the Ukrainian military

39:58

who have a complicated history. And this

40:00

is something I've even raised here on the show before.

40:03

I'm glad to even show it. Is a lot of people

40:05

think of the SS and of the

40:07

SS and specifically like the military

40:10

units as just being all German, and it's

40:12

actually not true because they had this entire idea

40:14

of like an Aryan like race. Himmler

40:16

himself actually decreed that this has to be

40:18

like the Galician Division because they were quote

40:21

more aryan like than other slobs.

40:23

So that's that's what

40:26

he served.

40:26

That what we're celebrating here to the Canadian Parliament.

40:29

That's who they celebrate.

40:29

Now.

40:30

Look, I guess to be fair, it's become a big

40:32

enough scandal now that the Speaker of

40:34

the Canadian Parliament as Ad issue apology.

40:36

To my knowledge at the time of this taping, Justin

40:38

Trudeau has not acknowledged this. But the

40:41

crazy thing is they had a meeting beforehand.

40:44

The granddaughter of this gentleman,

40:46

if I guess if you can't even call him, that was

40:49

actually posted a photo. And

40:51

it's even more interesting there wasn't. The reason

40:53

they changed their name to the Ukrainian

40:55

Division is there was an entire effort

40:57

after the Second World War to whitewash they're

40:59

not affiliation and to portray themselves

41:02

as Ukrainian freedom fighters. And

41:04

actually over a thousands of them emigrated

41:06

to Canada. So this is a very, very disgusting

41:09

situation where they were explicitly

41:11

used the name to portray themselves

41:14

as these great freedom fighters to gain

41:16

access to the West. I mean, this is a long standing

41:18

thing that a lot of people who fought within the

41:20

ass did. Now look in terms of

41:23

like I don't know if this man

41:25

served in the actual play, but

41:28

you know, look in terms of the whole

41:30

idea of like the good Nazi and all that.

41:32

He volunteered for a Nazi

41:34

division in forty three, served

41:38

until the end of the war. He was around

41:40

or the very loose new people who

41:42

straight up slaughtered civilians and were implicated

41:45

in the death and also the liquidation of Jews

41:47

in the Eastern European

41:49

theater wort. I don't think there's any getting

41:51

around that. And these are not people who we should

41:53

be celebrating. I cannot believe that they

41:55

honored him, that Zelenski, you

41:57

know, like you know, the other thing is here.

42:00

Maybe you can forgive the Canadians for not knowing.

42:02

Okay, a lot of these people are idiots. They don't know he

42:05

knew what was going on. Do you think Eden know He's

42:07

like, oh, he fought for Ukrainian independence in World War

42:09

two? People in Ukraine they know, they

42:11

know which side people fought on.

42:13

Right, Well, I mean, this is one of the

42:15

uncomfortable realities that was

42:18

easy for a lot of people to acknowledge before

42:20

the war and has become something that

42:22

no one really wants to talk about anymore. But

42:25

some of the great like heroes of Ukrainian

42:27

nationalism committed you know, incredible

42:30

atrocities during World War Two fighting

42:33

against the Russians on behalf of the Nazis.

42:36

So one thing when I was talking to

42:38

Yegor about this is I was trying to understand, like

42:40

you, like, was this an accident?

42:42

Did they know?

42:43

Because when you hear freedom fighter against

42:45

the Russians during World War two, it doesn't take

42:47

a rocket scientist to figure out then,

42:49

okay, which side were you actually on? And

42:51

one thing that he really wanted to impress upon me was

42:54

that this is not like a one off incident.

42:56

First of all, we have seen numerous

42:58

times the you know, Ukrainian social

43:01

media accounts posting.

43:02

Photos of their soldiers with all sorts of like.

43:04

Nazi insignia, And I don't want to play into

43:06

the Russian idea that like every Ukrainian

43:08

is a Nazi.

43:09

That's far from truth, Okay, So we're

43:11

trying to.

43:11

Be nuanced here and say, listen, there is an element

43:13

and certainly those who were the hard

43:16

Ukrainian nationalists and continue to be the hard

43:18

right Ukrainian nationalists have

43:20

a lot of very uncomfortable Nazi

43:22

ties and sometimes have Nazi

43:24

insignia tattoos on their uniforms

43:26

and tattooed on themselves. So I don't want

43:29

to play into, like, you know, some blanket

43:31

statements. But the other thing he was telling

43:33

me is it's sort of akin to you

43:35

know, Southerners who want to whitewash

43:38

the Civil War and the Confederacy and the

43:40

Confederate flag and all of that. That there's

43:42

been an ongoing project in

43:44

Eastern Europe, in Ukraine, in the Baltic

43:46

States to try to whitewash their

43:48

quote unquote freedom fighters. And this has

43:51

been going on, you know, under the radar of

43:53

people who are and don't want to be embarrassed by

43:55

their like Nazi Grandpa as eeg Or

43:57

put it to me anymore. And so

44:00

this has been going on under the radar.

44:02

But for them to actually achieve

44:04

this moment of having a legit

44:07

former Nazi celebrate and receive

44:09

a standing ovation from Trudeau

44:12

and Zelensky, I mean, that's a whole

44:14

other level. And in some ways it ends

44:16

up being useful because it shines a light on something

44:19

that's been going on underneath the surface

44:21

here that really, like Nazi

44:23

apologias should not be mainstream,

44:26

it should not be allowed to continue, It should

44:28

be called out for exactly what it

44:30

is, which you can see really clearly.

44:31

Yeah, I'm glad that he raised then that we're actually

44:34

you know, look, it is a complicated history. I'm

44:36

not going to sit here and just say it was all easy,

44:38

you know. And here's the uncomfortable truth. When

44:40

the Nazis invaded the Soviet Union,

44:43

a lot of those people were cheering them on Ukrainians

44:45

polls. A lot of these folks, you know why, because

44:47

the hate of the Soviets, I get it. A lot of the

44:49

Latvians of Lithuanians. And here's the other uncomfortable

44:52

truth. The Latvians of Lithuanians, the Ukrainians

44:54

were involved in some of the worst pugroms

44:57

of the early you know what twentieth century.

44:59

They had no love for Jews, and they did

45:01

not stand in the Nazis way, or at the very least

45:04

they helped him out. Some of the highest liquidation rates

45:06

of Jews in an entire like

45:09

Nazi regime happened in Eastern Europe.

45:11

And it was because in many cases of a willing

45:13

and a compliant and some guy enthusiastic

45:16

populace. I'm not denigrating the people

45:18

were the descendants of them today. I'm just saying though

45:21

that at that time, you know, their own symbols

45:23

of nationalism. When it's going to be so inextricably

45:26

linked to that time period of World

45:28

War Two, we should be very we should

45:30

not be uncomfortable to pointing out some of

45:32

the major moral quandaries around this, and

45:34

to also think about who we in the West

45:37

are siding with and are supporting. And

45:39

I think this is a very basic fact. It is

45:41

of course unjust and horrific that the Russians

45:43

invaded Ukraine, but it is also empirically

45:46

true that US provided in Western provided

45:48

weapons have gone into the hands of straight up

45:50

neo Nazis in Ukraine. It's undeniable.

45:53

I mean absolutely undeniable. You

45:55

can decide, you know, the lesser of two evils, the

45:57

end of the enemy is my friend, et

45:59

cetera. But you know, phrasing and framing

46:01

this all and just like democracy and

46:03

autocracy, you know, I see some people being

46:06

like the front line of democracy is

46:08

in the dun boss, and I'm just like, all right, shut

46:10

up, I'm sorry, Like that's ludicrous. Like, first

46:12

of all, we're talking about one of the most corrupt nations

46:14

in all of Eastern Europe. You should maybe

46:16

go ask some of the people in the dun Boss previous

46:19

to this conflict who they had allegiances to.

46:21

All I'm saying is is messy, is complicated.

46:24

None of this is justification for a

46:26

horrible invasion, just to show you, like,

46:28

the world is not black and white, it's very

46:31

gray. Yeah, this case it gets.

46:33

In this case, it's a little bit black.

46:35

A little bit this one, well, in this one it gets a little

46:37

Nazi gray in terms of what those un

46:39

warns look like. And I think it's I think

46:41

it's a tragedy. More so also that

46:43

people in the West, they don't they don't want to

46:45

admit this stuff. Only in Canada because

46:47

they straight up honored him at the parliament. But how

46:50

many people in the US media are talking about this.

46:52

Not one.

46:52

I haven't seen a single media outlet

46:54

here in Washington condemn

46:57

you know Lensky too. Listen, if you're gonna come

46:59

here and shake your hand asking for money, maybe

47:01

don't be honoring Nazis. Whi're over

47:03

here.

47:03

Somebody on his stack is not doing him any favors.

47:05

Somebody on his stack again, you

47:08

can excuse the idiot Canadians maybe,

47:10

although probably not, but they

47:12

knew. There's no way that those

47:15

people on Zelenski's staff, you know, the advanced

47:17

staff and Zelensky and Stif, There's no

47:19

way they didn't know who this guy was. Right. This

47:22

is coded language in Ukraine for Yeah,

47:25

they fought on the side of the Nazis. You think that was a

47:27

smart move. And then it gets to the uncomfortable

47:29

question of like, hey, maybe they support

47:31

it a little bit or at the very least like tascitly

47:33

okay with it, as they are in their own

47:36

government and in their coalition. So people

47:38

can think that we're unfair and harping on this,

47:40

but like, you know, look, you know we these

47:42

are the people we're supposedly allied with. These are

47:44

the people who are funding with a blank check. You

47:46

got to ask questions about your friends more so,

47:48

probably even than your enemies.

47:50

It's also, in a certain sense, like the logical

47:52

endpoint of this black

47:55

and white Disney version of the

47:57

war that you're gesturing towards

47:59

saga that it's just like the

48:01

Russians are bad and the Ukrainians are

48:03

good. Oh, here's Ukrainian freedom fighter

48:05

quote unquote who was fighting against

48:07

the Russians.

48:08

He must be good.

48:09

I mean, that's like the logical endpoint of

48:11

this really silly, childlike

48:14

version of events that we've been fed by

48:17

the media, and so in that regard,

48:19

it's actually not surprising that you would end

48:21

up with something that is this egregious,

48:24

just like, you know, literally celebrating a Nazi

48:26

to own the Russians kind of makes sense

48:29

as a logical conclusion of the direction

48:31

that we've been heading in with all of this. So absolutely

48:34

shorny, we should say, you know, there are a lot of Canadian

48:37

Jewish groups obviously understandably very

48:40

upset about this state of affairs

48:42

and wondering, like we are, what the hell

48:44

were you thinking?

48:45

And how can you let this happen?

48:47

So Trudeau and Parliament under

48:49

a lot of pressure now to make

48:51

amends for this state of affairs.

48:54

But yeah, in terms of US media, pretty much

48:56

silent.

48:56

Where's the ADL huh Adl, who's

48:59

willing to call anybody an anti semi

49:01

for anything anybody says about Israel or anything anybody

49:03

ever says even about them. They haven't put out a

49:05

single statement about this. Wow, this is

49:08

the probably I mean, let's think about

49:10

it. Since Operation paper Clip,

49:12

this is probably the most prominent

49:15

celebration of a literal Nazi

49:17

in the West in decades throughout

49:20

all of the West. And these people don't have a

49:22

word to say. They're complete and utter

49:24

tools. So let's just keep that very

49:26

clear. Let's move on now and talk a little

49:28

bit about a government shutdown. We put it into

49:30

the Ukraine block because I guess there's some elements

49:33

about Ukraine. We want to make sure everybody stays updated

49:35

about what's going on. There was a fascinating

49:37

fight between Congressman Matt Gaetz is one

49:39

of the leaders of the shutdown movement, with

49:41

Maria Bartrioma over on Fox

49:44

Business. It was a clash of too Kevin

49:46

McCarthy of Kevin McCarthy ideology and the Gates

49:48

ideology. Let's take a listen.

49:50

I'm glad I get to respond to your monologue because

49:52

if you're saying that I'm standing in the way of all the Republican

49:54

wins, I'd love you to enumerate them.

49:57

Watching my friend and mentor Jim Jordan,

49:59

it was quite pay because he started

50:01

by saying we should only pick one fight the

50:03

border, but then as the interview went on, he said,

50:05

well, we should pick a second fight. Jack Smith and

50:07

by the time the interview rounded out, he was saying that we shouldn't

50:10

be funding Ukraine without a plan, and yet

50:12

the very continuing resolution that you and Jim Jordan

50:14

seemed to before continues to have three hundred

50:16

million dollars more for Ukraine. So I

50:19

think we ought to fight on all fronts. I think the border

50:21

is very important. Kevin wants it in one

50:23

big up or down vote. Keep the government

50:25

open, shut it down. I'm saying, single subject

50:27

spending bills. It's the only way to break the fever

50:29

and liberate ourselves from this out of control spending.

50:31

Well, he's doing the four bills next week.

50:34

So because we're making him, because we're making.

50:36

You're doing it, so to push now

50:38

to blow up all of the wins that

50:40

you all have had.

50:41

Now, which wins, please enumerate

50:43

that?

50:43

Well?

50:44

Okay, Well, how about the fact that he has

50:46

set up a Weaponization committee

50:48

to investigate the DOJ whether they're

50:50

involved.

50:50

In a cover up.

50:51

I do not see any of the January sixth gears using

50:53

full straight.

50:54

Now indirectly working with Democrats,

50:56

because you are going to allow Chuck Schumer

50:58

to come up with a continuing resolution next

51:01

week to fund the government that's what your actions

51:03

are doing. That's why some people feel this

51:05

is a personal vendetta you have against

51:08

the speaker.

51:09

No, my vendetta is against a Washington

51:12

system that allows corruption to

51:14

put the interests of lobbyists and

51:16

pacts above the interests of the American people. Kevin

51:18

McCarthy facilitates that system, and

51:21

I do deeply resent that.

51:22

So there it is. That's the fight with

51:25

Maria and Matt Gates. Now,

51:27

to be clear, Ukraine is part of the story

51:29

that will be voted on. But just to explain in

51:31

senatees or Congression leans,

51:33

because I know this is complicated. A continuing

51:35

resolution is a giant bill that

51:38

funds the government. Once upon a time,

51:40

before Obama was president, and when

51:42

the Congress kind of ish worked, they

51:45

used to pass individual

51:47

appropriations bills for

51:49

each part of the government, which were reported

51:51

out of committee and sent to the floor. So

51:53

the Department of Agriculture had one bill, the

51:56

Department the Defense had one bill, the Department

51:58

of the Treasury had one bill. Within these

52:00

bills, there would be a debate, a line item

52:02

debate. As he was saying about it's called the normal

52:05

procedure. It hasn't been the normal procedure now in

52:07

Washington. Basically since two thousand and nine,

52:09

and especially since twenty thirteen, Gates

52:12

and the Freedom Caucus have demanded a return

52:14

to that, although Kevin McCarthy the Senate and

52:16

all these others have decided that they

52:18

want to stick. Hence the showdown that's

52:20

happening right now now. In terms of the demands

52:23

that are being made here, Ukraine is one of those demands,

52:25

but it's not one of the most prominent ones. Let's put this up there on

52:27

the screen. One of the things that the House GOP

52:30

wants to do is they want to cut spending,

52:32

but they have decided to rule out over

52:34

ninety percent of the federal budget, meaning

52:37

entitlements and defense, so

52:39

that leaves discretionary spending, which

52:41

is only about seven percent of the overall federal budget.

52:44

That includes cuts to twenty seven percent of

52:46

what they were advocate for the Social Security

52:48

Administration, nutrition assistance for

52:50

newborns, money to ensure our drinking water

52:52

is safe, most federal education

52:54

money, federal cancer and stroke

52:57

research. So Crystal, I

52:59

personally think, look, I actually do think

53:01

a return to a normal order would be a good thing. Maybe

53:04

you know, conceptually that said, what people

53:06

are demanding here is crazy and actually

53:08

would be. Look, it's always ridiculous.

53:11

Yeah, look, we could cut spending. Let's let's

53:13

take a freaking axe to so much

53:15

to the Pentagon. But they don't want to touch it.

53:17

Never they don't want to. And that's where

53:20

Look, I'll give Gates credit because Gates actually

53:22

would touch Pentagon spending,

53:24

but the rest of them they refuse, and so the

53:26

whole thing just becomes this crazy farce

53:29

effectively about cutting to the bone. You

53:31

know, any existing you know, welfare programs

53:33

which you have, which by the way, many of these are as means

53:35

tested if anybody is you know, worried about that,

53:37

but you know, many of these existing programs are not you

53:40

know, exactly like cash that.

53:41

People are living high on the hogs.

53:43

That type of welfare doesn't even exist in the United States.

53:46

Like, that's what people don't understand. If you're not working, you

53:48

actually can't get welfare. Is even if you're unemployed,

53:50

you have to you can't just have no job, like you

53:52

have to a paid in the unemployment insurance or to get unemployment

53:54

insurance. I just don't think a lot of people understand

53:56

that. So a lot of the cuts that we're talking about

53:58

are silly. That said, on the Ukraine side,

54:01

I'm one hundred percent with them. But the problem

54:03

is is, from a political perspective,

54:05

if McCarthy does fold,

54:07

and it does look like he's going to to individually

54:09

bring these bills to the floor, the vast majority

54:12

of the House of Representatives does support Ukraine eight. So

54:14

it's not like it's not going to pass. But that's

54:16

the issue that I really have with this.

54:18

Well, and even that so the expectation, I

54:20

mean, this is also in the weeds, and I know,

54:22

I'm sorry, I apologize, but it really does

54:24

matter because we are coming down to the wire here and it

54:26

looks we're adding towards the government shutdown

54:29

almost totally because there's just.

54:31

Not even time.

54:31

If they were going to do some other sort of complicated

54:34

discharge petition process, there's just not even time

54:36

to get that done. So here's what the

54:38

state of play is. Kevin McCarthy is

54:40

going to try to pass through the House these individual

54:43

bills like you're talking about to appease the

54:45

Matt Gates of the world. Okay, that's

54:47

going to go nowhere in terms of the Senate. Meanwhile,

54:50

the Senate is trying to pass their

54:52

own continuing resolution, which would be comprehensive,

54:55

which Kevin McCarthy, because

54:57

he values his position as Speaker of the House,

55:00

is not going to put forward in the House. So

55:02

you have this impass between the

55:04

two chambers. What it looks

55:06

like maybe we're going to end up with

55:09

is a situation where they use this kind

55:11

of workaround called a discharge petition

55:13

that doesn't require a speaker to bring something to

55:15

the floor that you can get a majority of members

55:17

which would be some combination of probably mostly Democrats

55:20

and a few Republicans to bring something

55:22

like what the Senate is going to pass to the floor.

55:24

But again that's.

55:25

Going to take some time, and there's no guarantees about that

55:27

either, because the Matt Gates

55:30

faction says even that would be a

55:32

real betrayal if anything passes

55:34

through the House that uses Democrats

55:36

to get across the finish line, So it's a

55:38

complete impass. You know, their demands are

55:41

really extreme, as we show there, and extraordinarily

55:43

ideological. Even if you like we

55:45

are sympathetic to their demands on Ukraine

55:48

on everything else. I mean, it's just

55:50

really trying to take a hatchet to these

55:53

already threadbare social safety net

55:55

programs which have been cut and cut and cut by

55:57

the way during the COVID era, in which they already extracted

56:00

a pound of flesh over the last debt ceiling freaking

56:02

negotiations. They got a lot of what they wanted there

56:04

too, which it's easy to forget

56:06

about. So I think what was notable mostly

56:09

about the Maria Barbaroma Matt Gates

56:11

clip there is just how how

56:16

ugly it was. I mean, it really is bringing

56:18

into the open and I think Maria,

56:20

you could just basically assume those are like coming

56:22

directly from Kevin McCarthy. I mean, that is really

56:24

the divide here, and it's quite it's quite something.

56:27

From a pure entertainment perspective. Here's my ideal

56:29

solution. The Republicans do team

56:31

up with the Democrats to pass it, and then McCarthy loses

56:34

the speakership just because I would enjoy it.

56:36

I mean me personally, I like to say people lose

56:38

their jobs, you know, I like to see a little bit of chaos. That's

56:41

what the House is for.

56:42

But the problem, like people, this

56:44

is the same issue they had at the beginning of the Kevin McCarthy

56:46

speakership fight, like they don't have an alternative, yeah,

56:48

unfortate that can unite the caucus,

56:51

and so they.

56:51

Won't have a speaker. You know, there's actually there's an interesting

56:54

rule. You don't have to remember the House representative to be

56:56

speaker. Yeah, you could be a normal.

56:58

People always Oh, let's make tre don't speak thouse.

57:00

I mean I would enjoy it. I would enjoy it,

57:03

Let's be honest.

57:04

The one thing that I did think that Matt

57:06

gets was right on when he was like

57:08

Mario was like, and we can continue with all

57:10

the wins, and he's like, what wins, because

57:13

he's pointing to the fact, I mean, in fairness,

57:15

like I said, they did win some of their like

57:18

hard ideological goals

57:20

through the debt ceiling fight, so those in

57:22

their view would be wins. I would consider them losses,

57:24

but they would consider them wins. But in

57:27

terms of all their like you know, their Weaponization Committee

57:29

and they're like impeachment investigation or whatever,

57:32

he's pointed to the fact that this is all just like

57:35

bullshit virtue signaling without

57:37

any real teeth at this point. And he's

57:39

not wrong about that.

57:40

No, he's not. Because McCarthy is not given them

57:42

the powers and the subpoenas, stuff that they

57:44

actually want for the Commons. It's

57:46

very interesting. And again, I know there were boring people

57:49

with the weeds, but you know, if you learn a little bit about

57:51

the procedure and you start to speak some of this language,

57:53

you're like, you know, look, you can conceptually

57:56

understand why it would definitely

57:58

be better to move away from these giant

58:01

crs, these continuing resolutions,

58:03

because they're just packed full of junk. Nobody

58:05

ever knows what's going in there, and never debated,

58:07

they're never you know, marked up and effectively.

58:09

The real problem is this undemocratic because

58:12

it means that only three people are making the law, the

58:14

President, the leader of the Senate, and the Leader

58:16

of the House. They write those bills

58:18

and then they released two thousand pages and they go look

58:20

up or down. There's no debate, nothing.

58:23

Oh, you're going to lead to a government shutdown. It's

58:25

basically a blackmail situation invented,

58:27

like I said, by John Bayner and Paul

58:29

Ryan and all those other people, all going back all the

58:31

way back to the Obama administration. So getting

58:33

away from it would be great, but listen, I'm not going

58:35

to hold my breath. That thing is rule in Washington.

58:38

It has now they love it. You know that the establishment

58:40

loves that because they can chock full of you know,

58:42

Ukraine, a disaster relief. Oh you want

58:44

to vote against Waii. Remember the whole

58:46

the two thousand dollars check thing. McConnell

58:48

held it up because he refused to put

58:51

it on the floor as a single item. He would only

58:53

put it up against government spending and went ahead

58:55

and killed it. So there's a lot of reasons why this

58:58

really does hurt you as an individual

59:00

citizen to pass laws this way.

59:01

Yeah, but the problem there's just too much dysfunction

59:03

for them to be able to and has

59:05

been now for over a decade, for them to be able

59:08

to actually like you know, run the government

59:10

and the way.

59:10

That the government is supposed to be run.

59:12

So not that I'm really like longing for

59:14

those days of bipartisan consensus

59:16

around you know, cutting off the social

59:18

say.

59:19

But the way that made those laws genuinely

59:21

was good, especially forty fifty years ago, it was

59:23

good. Great. The way that they used to really take

59:25

it seriously. Think about the committee,

59:27

the way that you would have witnesses come and testify. They

59:30

would truly. I mean, go back into one

59:32

of my personal favorite instances of American

59:34

history is the tax bill by John F. Kennedy,

59:37

the way that was reported and thought about and

59:39

then eventually passed by Lyndon Johnson,

59:41

The amount of work that went into that bill, which ended

59:43

up being one of the best things ever happened to the US

59:46

economy. People should really go back and think

59:48

about the debates around income tax

59:50

and about how corporations and it's set up

59:52

for a lot of prosperity in the sixties. So I

59:54

don't want to go on too much of a tangent, but it really

59:56

was interesting and there is there is, you know,

59:58

a good thing to be for good order,

1:00:01

but it requires a lot of other stuff.

1:00:03

Well, the reason that it's impossible

1:00:05

now is because the parties have completely

1:00:07

ideologically diverged. So,

1:00:10

you know, used to be that there was actually over

1:00:12

ideological overlap between the parties

1:00:14

and that just doesn't really exist anymore.

1:00:17

Now. It's theoretically, I mean, you.

1:00:18

Could imagine a scenario where you ended

1:00:20

up with you know, I mean you start to see

1:00:22

glimmers of Okay, there's a few Republicans who

1:00:24

are serious on antitrust and there's some Democrats

1:00:27

that.

1:00:27

You would start to see, yeah, the railway.

1:00:29

I mean there's a few little glimmers, but there's

1:00:31

not anything like the type of actual

1:00:33

like cross parts and ideological

1:00:35

overlap that used to enable that sort

1:00:37

of working.

1:00:38

And I don't know if we'll ever get back to that.

1:00:42

Speaking of dysfunction in Washington, as

1:00:44

you guys know, Senator of Menendez of New Jersey,

1:00:46

Democratic of New Jersey was indicted

1:00:49

on stunning allegations

1:00:52

of corruption last week. I

1:00:54

mean, truly, the details here are cartoonishly

1:00:57

mind blowing, Like they found hundreds

1:00:59

of thousands of dollars in cash in this

1:01:01

guy's house, stuffed into what

1:01:03

it was like a jacket that literally had

1:01:05

his.

1:01:05

Name on it, gold

1:01:08

gold bars.

1:01:09

And the allegation here is that

1:01:12

this was that he got this cash and

1:01:14

the gold bars and like a luxury car for his

1:01:16

wife and house payments and all this other stuff

1:01:18

in exchange for doing favors for these Egyptian

1:01:20

businessmen and also doing favors, by the way, for the Egyptian

1:01:23

government. This is a man who

1:01:26

was, until this all came out, head

1:01:28

chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

1:01:30

So the fact that he's doing favors on

1:01:33

behalf of a foreign government. And by the way, this

1:01:35

is the second time he's been indicted over corruption

1:01:37

charges. Is just absolutely

1:01:39

stunning. Perhaps even more stunning,

1:01:42

though, has been his response. You

1:01:44

would think someone would have a little bit of shame about

1:01:46

this, but nope, not at all.

1:01:48

Put this up on the screen.

1:01:50

So he had the goal to

1:01:52

respond to calls for his resignation

1:01:54

with a new statement saying it's not lost

1:01:57

on me.

1:01:57

How quickly some are rushing to.

1:01:59

Judge Aino and

1:02:01

push him out of his seat. I am

1:02:03

not going anywhere. And

1:02:06

by the way, he's expected to give a

1:02:08

press conference this morning in which he announces

1:02:10

his re election days

1:02:13

after these indictment charges come down.

1:02:15

Will wait and see what he actually says.

1:02:17

But the goal to claim

1:02:19

some sort of identity based

1:02:21

persecution over

1:02:24

what are absolutely cartoonish

1:02:26

a caricature of corruption in terms

1:02:29

of the allegations is just absolutely

1:02:32

stunning. And by the way, it is quite the

1:02:34

opposite, because again, this

1:02:36

is the second time this man

1:02:39

has been indicted on corruption charge. Now the

1:02:41

other one's got thrown out, and so let's

1:02:43

say, in essentil proven guilty all of that.

1:02:45

But you would think that

1:02:47

perhaps after the first

1:02:50

corruption indictment charges, maybe

1:02:52

at the very least they wouldn't have made him

1:02:54

chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

1:02:56

Don't forget Crystal. It wasn't that they're thrown out. It said

1:02:58

it was a hung jury. It wasn't that, you know, it

1:03:00

was just a mistrial. So it was one of those where

1:03:03

at least some jury they thought he was guilty. He

1:03:05

was never declared in is I mean, look, you're guilty

1:03:07

before innocent, of course in the American

1:03:09

justice system. But I encourage everybody to go and read

1:03:12

that original indictment of mister Menendez

1:03:14

because it was shocking in twenty seventeen.

1:03:16

Now, the of course, cash isn't the only thing he's got in

1:03:19

that jacket pocket. He's got the race card that he's

1:03:21

got to go ahead, that's all right. And my

1:03:23

favorite thing is that after he got

1:03:25

the gold, allegedly he googled

1:03:27

how much is a kilo of gold

1:03:30

worth? On his phone. That's

1:03:32

the most boomer thing you can do. They

1:03:35

also found the DNA of the people

1:03:37

bribing him on that wad of cash.

1:03:39

Just by the way, I look, allegedly from the

1:03:41

DOJ all of that. So he gives you.

1:03:43

There's a perfectly innocent exploration for

1:03:45

the ones of for those who wanted dumbars.

1:03:48

Sixty six thousand dollars is a kilo of gold

1:03:50

and he had two of those. So that sounds nice. What a nice

1:03:52

life that two bricks of freaking

1:03:54

gold. It's like out of a Bond movie that

1:03:57

you were seeing this gentleman. But there have

1:03:59

been some people could have been coming out to yeah.

1:04:01

So actually the New Jersey delegation has turned

1:04:03

on him pretty hard, not across the

1:04:05

board, but put this up on the screen from the Wall Street Journal.

1:04:08

The most critically, the new Jersey Governor

1:04:10

Phil Murphy, who is also a Democrat, called

1:04:12

for Menandez's resignation. You

1:04:15

had a New Jersey representatives

1:04:17

Democratic New Jersey representatives including

1:04:19

Mikey, Cheryl Bill, Pascal Pascaral

1:04:21

Junior, and Josh S. Goottheimer Show favorite

1:04:24

calling for him to leave. So far, his

1:04:27

senate colleague there, Corey Booker, has been

1:04:29

silent, although last time around with the corruption

1:04:31

charges, Corey actually came out and affirmatively supported

1:04:34

him, So I guess his progress from some direction. You

1:04:37

have Representative Don Bayer of Virginia, who's

1:04:39

co founder of the Egypt human rights caucus

1:04:41

and critic of the current government's human rights record.

1:04:44

He said Menendez should step

1:04:46

down. You actually have another Democrat

1:04:49

representative, Andy Kim, who has jumped

1:04:51

into the Democratic primary to directly

1:04:54

challenge Menendez in a

1:04:56

primary fight for that Senate seat.

1:04:58

So Andy cam what he said

1:05:00

is that after Culture resign Center, Menandez

1:05:03

said, I'm not going anywhere. As a result, I feel

1:05:05

compelled to run against him. By the way I looked in Andy

1:05:07

Kim is sort of just like very standard

1:05:09

issue Democrat more or less.

1:05:11

He's voted with Joe.

1:05:11

Biden one hundred percent of the time. He hasn't distinguished

1:05:14

himself in all that many regards. But anyway, he's

1:05:16

just sort.

1:05:16

Of like not corrupt. So it seems like

1:05:18

or at least as we know it, as far as we do, as.

1:05:21

Far as we know.

1:05:21

This is New Jersey after all.

1:05:23

But yeah, as far as we know, he hasn't been indicted

1:05:25

over corruption charges, as Menandez

1:05:27

has put this. So we

1:05:29

also had to the point of the

1:05:32

identity based persecution here. We had very

1:05:34

prominent Latina Alexandria Cossio

1:05:36

Cortez coming out and also calling for him

1:05:38

to resign.

1:05:39

List, Take listen.

1:05:39

Centaer Bob Menandez of New Jersey, as

1:05:42

you know, has just been indicted

1:05:44

on bribery charges.

1:05:45

Should he resign?

1:05:46

And what do you think of his statement that

1:05:49

it has to do with him being a Latino.

1:05:52

Well, you know, I think it's the situation

1:05:54

is quite unfortunate, but

1:05:56

I do believe that it is in the best interests

1:05:59

for Senator Menendez to resign in

1:06:01

this moment. As you mentioned, consistency

1:06:04

matters. It shouldn't matter whether it's a Republican

1:06:06

or a Democrat. The details in

1:06:09

this indictment are extremely serious.

1:06:11

They involve the nature of

1:06:15

not just his but all of our seats

1:06:17

in Congress. And while

1:06:20

you know, as a Latina there are

1:06:22

absolutely ways in which there

1:06:25

is systemic bias, but I think what is

1:06:27

here in this indictment is quite clear, and

1:06:30

I believe this is in the best interest to

1:06:32

maintain the integrity of the seat.

1:06:34

Yeah.

1:06:35

I don't agree with our LATINX

1:06:37

colleague AOC all the time,

1:06:39

but you know, first of all, happy she said

1:06:41

Latina. At least LATINX appears to

1:06:43

have died so far in the lexicon, but she

1:06:45

called out him to resign, So you know, props to

1:06:47

her. And you know, it's not like it doesn't take

1:06:50

actual courage for Democratic lawmakers.

1:06:52

I mean, it's no joke. In the Senate,

1:06:55

he by all accounts, is going to

1:06:57

remain the Senate Foreign Relations chairman Schumer

1:06:59

has anything. You know, many of

1:07:01

these other senators don't want to cross him, because

1:07:04

if you have a single individual thing that you

1:07:06

want done, it's not going to happen. He can

1:07:08

straight up block it through committee.

1:07:10

So so far there has

1:07:12

been one senator

1:07:15

Democratic senator who has called for

1:07:17

him to resign. As John Fetterman put this up on the

1:07:19

screen, he says, Senator Menendez should resign. I mean,

1:07:21

this should be so easy, right, He's entitled

1:07:23

to the presumption of innocence, but he cannot continue

1:07:25

to wield influence over national policy, especially given

1:07:28

the serious and specific nature of the allegations. I

1:07:30

hope he chooses an honorable exit and focuses

1:07:32

on his trial. Thank you, Centaer Fetterman

1:07:34

for saying the most obvious, basic

1:07:37

thing that everyone should literally be saying, and

1:07:39

is actually worse than Schumer not saying anything. He

1:07:41

did put out a statement in which he praised

1:07:43

Menendez's service to New

1:07:45

Jersey and said he is entitled

1:07:48

to a fair trial and innocent until proven guilty.

1:07:50

Now he has stepped down from being chair

1:07:52

of the Foreign Relations Committee. But Schumer,

1:07:55

who is the most critical voice probably in all

1:07:57

of this, declining to call on him to

1:07:59

resign, along with again literally

1:08:02

every other senator Democratic

1:08:04

senator save for John Fetterman.

1:08:07

Here is Dick Durman, who is another powerful

1:08:09

United States Democratic Senator, declining

1:08:11

to call for him to step down the stake.

1:08:13

Lisson, let me tell you, Dana, this is a

1:08:15

very serious charge, There's no question

1:08:17

about it. But it bears reminding

1:08:20

us of what I've said about the

1:08:22

indictments against Donald Trump, equally

1:08:25

serious charges. These are,

1:08:27

in fact indictments that have to

1:08:29

be proven. Under the rule of law, the

1:08:32

person who is accused is entitled

1:08:34

to the presumption of innocence, and it's

1:08:36

the responsibility of the government to prove that case.

1:08:38

I said that about Donald Trump, will say the same thing

1:08:40

about Bob Menendez in terms

1:08:42

of resignation. That's a decision to be

1:08:44

made by Senator Menendez and the people of New Jersey.

1:08:47

So he's trying to sound very serious or whatever

1:08:49

they're but the bottom line is he won't call on him to resign.

1:08:51

So apparently he called for al Frankin to resign

1:08:54

the photo. That was enough for

1:08:56

Old Dick to come out and say that you got to go.

1:08:59

But a straight up federal incitement

1:09:01

over corruption is not enough.

1:09:03

I mean, which directly impacts his job.

1:09:06

I mean al Franken allegedly, you know, grabbing someone's

1:09:08

boobs, right that doesn't even have your job as

1:09:10

a senator right right, This is

1:09:12

you are literally trading your power

1:09:15

and influence to do favors for a foreign

1:09:17

government. And you people can't bring yourselves to say,

1:09:19

hey, maybe this guy is the right one for the job

1:09:21

right now while there's an ongoing Democratic

1:09:24

primary process. By the way, it's absolute

1:09:26

insanity. And Republicans are of

1:09:28

course getting excited because Menendez is up for reelection

1:09:31

in twenty twenty four, and they're thinking, hey, maybe we got

1:09:33

a shot at the seat if it's especially

1:09:35

if it's Menendez who ends up being the nominee. He's

1:09:37

probably the only Democrat in this era

1:09:40

who could lose the New Jersey Senate

1:09:42

seat. And yet you know, they're apparently willing

1:09:44

to take the risk on him.

1:09:45

Look, this time around, you got a Democratic governor already

1:09:47

came out and said he should resigned. So it's not even an incident.

1:09:49

But apparently, you know, as you were saying, he's got a press

1:09:51

conference. I think he's going to run for reelection. Everybody

1:09:54

thinks that. In the press conference from today, he says he's

1:09:56

gonna run.

1:09:56

That's the expectation.

1:09:57

And you know that's the expectation. And guess what he

1:09:59

won last time. He's still won despite the fact

1:10:01

that he was look in my opinion,

1:10:03

he was guilty as hell based on the indictment,

1:10:06

my own personal opinion of reading of the

1:10:08

twenty seventeen original indictment

1:10:10

against Menendez. But he beat it at trial in terms

1:10:12

of a mistrial. This time around, who

1:10:15

knows, you know, who knows? With a new Jersey

1:10:17

jury, he has nothing but confidence though

1:10:19

walking into this he's going to go and fight

1:10:21

it in court and he very well could win, just like he did

1:10:23

last time.

1:10:24

Well, and here's the thing too, and I'm doing this

1:10:26

in my monologue, like the Supreme Court

1:10:28

has so limited the definition of corruption, which

1:10:30

he used before with Bob

1:10:33

McDonald and to cover their own corrupt.

1:10:35

Behavior, et cetera.

1:10:36

So you know, he'll try to use every trick in the book,

1:10:38

But I mean, this seems like a pretty difficult one to wiggle

1:10:40

your way on when you got the literal gold bars in the

1:10:42

closet, I thought the.

1:10:43

Same thing about the last one about the private jet travel. Yeah,

1:10:46

basic quid pro quote, and he still got off.

1:10:48

So I don't know, amazing, Yeah, absolutely amazing.

1:10:50

All right, So this is kind of interesting.

1:10:52

So we've got, you know, in the new TV season or

1:10:54

whatever, I think, I guess it's about to drop. And

1:10:57

so catching Eyes is

1:10:59

a new red of The Bachelor,

1:11:01

but with the twists.

1:11:02

Put this up on the screen.

1:11:03

So it's called The Golden Bachelor

1:11:06

Looking for Love and f hickel Bob partner

1:11:08

and I actually, unironically, I actually

1:11:10

genuinely love this. So this man's name is Jerry

1:11:13

Turner. He is the Bachelor.

1:11:16

He's in his seventies. It's going

1:11:18

to be you know, a group of women who are between

1:11:20

sixty and seventy.

1:11:21

Five who were all vying for his.

1:11:23

Affection here in the traditional

1:11:25

bachelor style. They say in this New

1:11:28

York Times piece that they include

1:11:30

divorcees, widows, mothers, and grandmothers.

1:11:33

They were talking to the producers of this

1:11:35

show and they said that at first, when

1:11:37

they brought the contestants into like the Bachelor manch

1:11:39

or whatever. I've never watched The Bachelor, but this is my understanding

1:11:41

of how the villa works.

1:11:43

Generally familiar with the product.

1:11:45

But they brought them into the Bachelor

1:11:47

mansion and they were looking around at the bedrooms

1:11:49

and everything, and it was a sort of like typical Bachelor

1:11:51

reaction, yelling off the balconies

1:11:54

hanging, and they said, Okay, this feels like The Bachelor.

1:11:56

And then they came down to the kitchen and had mimosas

1:11:58

they were doing toasts, and we said, okay, this also feels

1:12:01

like the Bachelor. And then one woman

1:12:03

said, let's toast to Social Security,

1:12:06

Like, all right, that's not the Bachelor.

1:12:07

That's different.

1:12:08

But apparently this is no

1:12:10

accident in programming choices.

1:12:13

Put this up on the screen.

1:12:14

Also for The New York Times, TV

1:12:16

network's Last Best Hope, Boomers

1:12:19

viewers have fled primetime lineups for streaming

1:12:21

outlets, with one notable exception people over

1:12:23

sixty. So basically the

1:12:25

only people who are left watching

1:12:28

regular TV programs like The Bachelor

1:12:31

are all over sixty, and so you

1:12:33

know, reading the room,

1:12:36

Television networks are increasingly programming

1:12:39

for this older audience. Let

1:12:41

me and they point specifically to the Golden

1:12:43

Bachelor as like case in point of this.

1:12:46

But here's some of the numbers. This

1:12:48

was stunning to me.

1:12:49

Just nine years ago, the median

1:12:51

age of most top rated network entertainment

1:12:54

shows range from the mid forties to

1:12:56

the early fifties. Just nine years ago, not even

1:12:58

a decade ago. It was forty five for the sitcom How

1:13:00

I Met Your Mother, fifty two for Big Bang Theory.

1:13:03

Some shows like Brooklyn nine nine I had a median

1:13:05

viewer as young as thirty nine.

1:13:07

Now in the recent most recent

1:13:09

network television season, which ended in May,

1:13:12

median viewer was older than sixty

1:13:15

median including The Voice sixty

1:13:17

four point eight, the Mass Singer sixty,

1:13:19

Gray's Anatomy sixty four, Young Sheldon

1:13:21

sixty five plus the highest

1:13:23

range that Nielsen provides. And so it's

1:13:26

not just the Golden Bachelor. They're bringing back

1:13:28

Law and Order, starring the eighty two

1:13:30

year old Sam Waters.

1:13:32

I couldn't believe that when I saw that photo. I'm

1:13:34

like, Sam, retirement, man, I've

1:13:36

been on TV before I was born.

1:13:39

So they're bringing back Quantum

1:13:41

Leap, which actually as a kid, I used to love

1:13:43

watching Quantum Leap.

1:13:44

You should not be Magnum

1:13:46

Pi.

1:13:47

CBS is resurrecting Matt Locke

1:13:50

show. They say the Simpsons used to lampoon

1:13:52

for its older fan base. Last

1:13:54

year, NBC found a surprise hit in night

1:13:57

Court, another like nineteen eighties

1:13:59

era, eighties early nineties era

1:14:02

show that I also watched as a child, and

1:14:04

they talked about how they intentionally tried

1:14:06

to avoid computer screens

1:14:09

and other quote trappings of modern life.

1:14:11

We really intentionally want a night Court

1:14:14

to feel like a place a bit frozen

1:14:16

in time, was the idea, and apparently

1:14:18

it worked for their viewing audience because it was a

1:14:20

breakout success the revamped

1:14:23

night Court, which I never would have expected.

1:14:24

So it's kind of interesting.

1:14:25

Yeah, of course, it's fascinating. And the reason why it

1:14:27

matters above all is that this is what props up

1:14:29

linear television. I've talked a nauseum

1:14:31

about cable carriage fees and all that other

1:14:34

stuff, but the bedrock, the beating heart

1:14:36

of linear TV, of network TV for

1:14:38

years was the serialized show

1:14:41

The Modern Families. The you know, I'm

1:14:43

talking more of my era, Like you said, Law

1:14:45

and Order, What is an NCIA. I

1:14:47

think that's what it's called NCIS. Yeah, I think so NCIS,

1:14:50

which has various different ones,

1:14:52

Law and Order, you know, Law and Order, SPU, the

1:14:54

various spinoffs of all that.

1:14:56

They were the bedrock of television. It's what kept

1:14:59

America interested. It really peaked,

1:15:01

in my opinion, with Lost back in two

1:15:04

thousand and four. It was really like the

1:15:06

height of their powers when they were demanding

1:15:09

huge amounts of money. But people

1:15:11

don't forget this. Lost launched

1:15:13

and actually was helped by the Internet.

1:15:15

It was one of the first forum board TV

1:15:18

shows where people would talk on forums about

1:15:20

what was going on with Lost, and that

1:15:22

really presses the eventual move

1:15:25

to streaming television and really

1:15:27

a collapse of the funding model, because

1:15:29

the thing is that these shows and the whole

1:15:31

anchor you know that they present at these

1:15:33

big conferences, helped prop

1:15:35

up an entire advertising scheme

1:15:38

which came in the middle of commercial breaks. And

1:15:40

now almost a decade into the Netflix,

1:15:42

HBO, Peacock and all these other eras,

1:15:45

a lot of that has really gone. You know, even the ads

1:15:47

that we watched on those streaming services, if

1:15:49

you're ad supported, they're like fifteen second spots

1:15:51

for some idiot state farm ad. You know, it's not

1:15:54

the original ads that demand the

1:15:56

premiums that once were. It's

1:15:58

really interesting. You know, there was a do

1:16:00

you remember that you ever watched The West Wing is? Yeah,

1:16:02

so like The West Wing for example, one of the reasons

1:16:04

why it went on for seven seasons was

1:16:06

that it was one of the only shows that got rich people

1:16:09

to watch network TV. And so even though

1:16:11

the audience wasn't that big, it was like doctors

1:16:13

and lawyers and the intellectual class.

1:16:15

That's the whole business, CNBC

1:16:17

business.

1:16:18

And they were able to NBC at that point was

1:16:20

printing money off of The West

1:16:22

Wing Er for example, was another long

1:16:25

serialized one. And look, I enjoyed some

1:16:27

of these shows, you know at the time and all that, but I

1:16:29

think they died, you know, a good death for

1:16:31

reason. And I think it's very sad

1:16:34

actually, the fact that it is now effectively

1:16:36

an elderly market. We already saw

1:16:38

this fight that just happened with ESPN Disney

1:16:41

with the what was it, the I

1:16:43

forget who the cable carric Charter Communications.

1:16:46

That's right, this is the future. I mean, very soon

1:16:48

you're gonna move to an era where the cable bundle

1:16:51

is diminishing, like nobody's business. Once

1:16:53

sports goes fully online, it is

1:16:56

dead, absolutely dead, and

1:16:58

with that will come the collapse of NBC

1:17:01

Nightly News, ABC World

1:17:03

twenty twenty or whatever these programs

1:17:06

are, and the Today Show, a lot of these things. I

1:17:08

mean, these programs were hundreds

1:17:10

of million dollars. At one point, Matt

1:17:12

Lauer was single handedly responsible

1:17:14

for almost a billion in ad revenue for what was

1:17:16

going on over I mean, what are

1:17:19

they making today, maybe one hundred mil. And then you know, I'm

1:17:21

talking. You know, obviously that's a lot of money, but that's

1:17:23

like one tenth of what they used to make over

1:17:25

there, So you got to think about it that way.

1:17:26

Yeah, I mean the business piece is really

1:17:29

fascinating to me. And I mean the sad

1:17:31

reality that's increasingly coming into view

1:17:33

is, you know, the thought was alwould be better for consumers

1:17:36

once you weren't paying for the whole cable news bundle,

1:17:38

But increasingly people are paying more for

1:17:41

like eighteen different streaming services and

1:17:43

getting less. So it hasn't worked

1:17:45

out for consumers the way that one might hope that

1:17:47

it.

1:17:47

I think we'll get there. We're in a chaos era.

1:17:49

Maybe I don't know, we'll see, but you

1:17:52

know, in terms of the cultural

1:17:54

representation piece though, like with the Golden

1:17:56

Bachelor and whatever, I'm actually here for it.

1:17:58

It's funny. I was Kyle watching golf all

1:18:00

the time.

1:18:01

It's always onto the background and the

1:18:03

golf channel, and he watches TV like

1:18:05

he's an old band. It's like Golf channel and Weather

1:18:07

Channel. It's like eighty year

1:18:09

olds and Kyle are watching these channels. But anyway,

1:18:12

they played this senior

1:18:15

women's golf tour on

1:18:17

the channel, and actually really appreciate

1:18:19

it because so much of representation

1:18:22

of older women in particular, it's like

1:18:24

very limited.

1:18:25

In terms of television.

1:18:26

I feel like older men, you know, the Saltan Pepper

1:18:28

like demonair, older guy like that's been a thing for

1:18:30

a while. But to see these older

1:18:33

women, many of whom just look like a regular

1:18:35

old grandma out there doing these

1:18:37

incredible athletic feats and like, you

1:18:39

know, they were amazing on the golf course. It was kind of

1:18:41

cool. And so I'm for

1:18:43

the Golden Bachelor. I'm excited

1:18:46

to see what this is all about. Like these the

1:18:48

dude is less interesting to me than the fact

1:18:50

that they're actually going to have women who are

1:18:52

age appropriate to him right, who are vying

1:18:54

for his attention. So I'm kind of here for the

1:18:58

cool old grama representation

1:19:00

that this new era could represent.

1:19:01

I agree. I just think though it's an example

1:19:04

of the original age of the mass

1:19:06

market TV show, which could appeal to tens

1:19:08

of millions.

1:19:09

Absolutely that's gone.

1:19:10

I mean I lost, yeah, And.

1:19:11

That's the thing with you know, boomers,

1:19:14

this has been their whole life has been centered

1:19:16

around like when I get home and in the primetime

1:19:19

shows, like we sit down as a family, and like

1:19:21

the TV is central, and so they're just

1:19:23

that habit is not going to break because it's been a

1:19:25

lifelong habit whereas for

1:19:28

younger generations, you know, they've they've

1:19:31

evaluated the landscape and switched

1:19:33

over more readily and more easily. And

1:19:36

the other issue that's a problem for the

1:19:38

networks in terms of the business model is

1:19:40

it's still what they call the key demo, which

1:19:42

I think like twenty five fifty four

1:19:45

where advertisers that's what you sell

1:19:47

your ad revenue based on because that's

1:19:49

the group that is most lucrative that advertisers

1:19:52

really want to reach. So when all of

1:19:54

your audiences are like freaking say, sixty

1:19:56

five years old. I mean that's the other issue

1:19:59

for them in terms of the advertising model.

1:20:00

Some of the numbers you guys won't even believe, Like I just

1:20:03

looked it up. The season three premiere

1:20:05

of Loss got eighteen point eight million

1:20:08

US viewers. That is so that's

1:20:11

like one tenth of the adult population.

1:20:14

And I remember it as a communal experience

1:20:16

as I still love that show. But you

1:20:18

know that those days they are long

1:20:21

long gone. So you're going to see more of the golden

1:20:23

Batcheler's and hey, more power to them. But from

1:20:25

a funding and a business point of view, in a mass market,

1:20:27

mass cultures point of view, that thing is

1:20:30

that's a ship sale. That is a white flag surrender

1:20:32

for what they're doing. Indeed, Chris

1:20:36

al Woad, you take a look at.

1:20:37

In a single day, two instances

1:20:40

of absolutely cartoonish

1:20:42

corruption were revealed among some of America's

1:20:45

most powerful elites. Senator

1:20:47

Bob Menendez, chair of the powerful Foreign

1:20:49

Relations Committee, was indicted again

1:20:52

once again. The senator stands accused of accepting

1:20:54

cash, gold bars, house

1:20:57

payments, a luxury vehicle, and other gifts

1:20:59

in exchange for doing favors for Egyptian businessmen

1:21:02

and the Egyptian government. And

1:21:04

at the same time Pro Publica dropped their

1:21:06

latest investigation into the brazen

1:21:08

corruption of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas,

1:21:11

who has arguably arguably become the

1:21:13

most ideologically influential justice

1:21:15

on this conservative court. In this latest

1:21:18

piece, they detail how Thomas was groomed by

1:21:20

conservative billionaires over years attending

1:21:22

ultra elite Bohemian grove retreats.

1:21:25

These ties not only result in all of those luxury

1:21:27

trips in private school tuition and payments for his

1:21:29

mother's home for millionaire Harlan Crow, but

1:21:32

also led to a relationship with the most

1:21:34

influential big money network in the

1:21:36

entire country, the Coke Network. Justice

1:21:38

Thomas went on to flagrantly disregard

1:21:41

any conflict of interest concerns by raising money

1:21:43

for the Cokes in spite of the fact that they routinely

1:21:46

have cases in front of the court. Of course,

1:21:48

none of this objectly corrupt behavior

1:21:50

was disclosed to the public, in what appears to be a clear

1:21:52

violation of federal ethics laws. Now,

1:21:55

these stories may seem kind of unrelated, different

1:21:57

parties details ideologies, but they

1:21:59

hold in common quite a lot. As it turns

1:22:01

out, from their grotesque betrayal

1:22:03

of public trust to the code of silence and complicity

1:22:06

among leads that enables such

1:22:08

absolutely outlandish behavior.

1:22:11

Both stories of corruption stand out for

1:22:13

their direct impact on policymaking

1:22:15

at the very highest levels. As chair

1:22:17

of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Menendez's

1:22:20

influence on our nation's foreign policy was second

1:22:22

only to the President himself, and

1:22:24

all the while he has apparently been available

1:22:27

for what, in the grand scheme of foreign governments, was

1:22:29

a cheap price. Egyptian businessmen were

1:22:31

allegedly able to buy this guy for a few hundred

1:22:33

thousand dollars of bargain. Considering

1:22:36

the power that he wields and the favors

1:22:38

he was able to allegedly provide,

1:22:40

the impact of Clarence Thomas's corrupt dealings

1:22:42

with the Cokes and other libertarian billionaires

1:22:45

is, if anything, even more far reaching. The

1:22:47

Cox looks set to win one of their longtime

1:22:50

goals in this upcoming Supreme Court

1:22:52

term, stripping federal agencies

1:22:54

of much of their power regulate anything from

1:22:56

clear air and water to labor rights

1:22:58

to consumer protections. This issue,

1:23:00

the so called Chevron deference,

1:23:03

is a libertarian billionaire obsession

1:23:05

and lo and behold. As Thomas has been fetted

1:23:08

and lavish with gifts by the very

1:23:10

businessman most influential in pushing

1:23:13

the end of Chevron, his position

1:23:15

on this issue has totally flipped. Thomas

1:23:18

once authored a major defense

1:23:20

of Chevron and the ability of federal agencies

1:23:22

to regulate in areas where congressional intent

1:23:24

is ambiguous, but his billionaire

1:23:26

buddies appear to have successfully changed

1:23:29

his mind.

1:23:29

Thomas has since.

1:23:30

Repudiated his previous position and

1:23:32

looks set to help end Chevron, granting

1:23:34

his billionaire benefactors their fondish

1:23:37

wish and recapping the ability

1:23:39

of the federal government to protect the rights of ordinary

1:23:41

Americans. But it's not

1:23:43

just their powerful impact on our democracy

1:23:46

that unites. These two instances of corruption

1:23:48

at the very highest level. Both

1:23:50

stem from the very same rotten

1:23:53

roots. In fact, no institution

1:23:56

has done more to legalize and

1:23:58

normalize corruption than the

1:24:00

Supreme Court. David Sorrotov Lever News

1:24:02

has been making this point very powerfully. He writes,

1:24:05

if proven true, the sordid details

1:24:07

of the indictment of center of Menendez reflect a country

1:24:09

whose billionaire owned Supreme Court has been

1:24:12

explicitly telling politicians that

1:24:14

flagrant grotesque corruption will

1:24:16

now be considered perfectly legal. In twenty

1:24:18

sixteen, justices unanimously

1:24:21

overturn the corruption conviction of former Virginia

1:24:23

Governor MacDonell, essentially saying

1:24:25

gifts may be exchanged for certain

1:24:28

government favors. Menendez weaponize

1:24:30

that to fight a past indictment, and will likely

1:24:32

try to do so again. Scotis

1:24:35

justices now have a personal motive to

1:24:37

try to protect Menendez from prosecutors.

1:24:39

Justice's own acceptance of gifts

1:24:42

from those with businesses before the court mimics

1:24:44

the alleged scheme detailed in the Menande's

1:24:46

indictment. Supreme Court justices will

1:24:48

likely be personally averse to

1:24:51

criminalizing the same behavior

1:24:53

we now know that they themselves routinely

1:24:56

engage in. Now this is just

1:24:58

the most explicit, codified

1:25:00

way in which elites enable corruption. Just

1:25:03

behold the silence, though from most

1:25:05

corners surrounding these new stunning developments.

1:25:08

In response to Menendez once again

1:25:10

facing indictment for insane levels

1:25:12

of corruption. As of this writing, one

1:25:16

of his Senate Democratic colleagues has called for

1:25:18

his resignation. Just one

1:25:20

kudos to John Fetterman for doing that and

1:25:23

this code of silence and protection comes all the

1:25:25

way from the top.

1:25:26

Majority leader. Schumer not only.

1:25:28

Declined to call for Menendez to step down, but

1:25:30

took this opportunity to praise him

1:25:33

as a dedicated public servant

1:25:35

who is quote always fighting hard

1:25:37

for the people of New Jersey. Of course,

1:25:39

according to the indictment, he was in reality

1:25:41

fighting hard for some shady Egyptian

1:25:44

businessmen, not so much for the

1:25:46

people of New Jersey. Meanwhile,

1:25:48

Chief Justice John Roberts, who supposedly

1:25:50

cares so deeply about the institution of

1:25:52

the Court, has done nothing but stonewall

1:25:55

any attempts at real reform.

1:25:57

Remember, the Supreme Court, alone among

1:25:59

federal courts, has no code of ethics,

1:26:01

allowing justices to engage in whatever

1:26:04

twisted, brazen levels of corruption that

1:26:06

they could justify to themselves, because they don't

1:26:08

have to justify it to us. None of

1:26:10

Thomas's fellow justices have spoken a

1:26:12

single critical word against his enrichment

1:26:14

by a powerful network of billionaires and conservative

1:26:17

activists. And the reason why is pretty

1:26:19

simple. Because so many elite

1:26:22

politicians are guilty of some level

1:26:24

of corruption, even if not as cartoonish as

1:26:26

Menandez or Thomas. There is a sort of principle

1:26:28

of mutually assured destruction that

1:26:30

ends.

1:26:31

Up reigning supreme.

1:26:32

They all keep their mouths shut and the status

1:26:34

quo locked in because their own hands

1:26:37

are not clean. That's

1:26:39

why stock trading remains. That's why anti

1:26:41

corruption laws are loosen, and even when politicians

1:26:43

and their aids are indicted, they frequently get

1:26:45

let off. These men believe

1:26:48

the rules do not apply to them, and unfortunately,

1:26:51

too often they are correct.

1:26:53

And that is what enables it.

1:26:55

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1:27:04

All right, sorry, were looking at.

1:27:05

Of all the causes that I've been early to, perhaps

1:27:07

the call I'm most proud of to be attached

1:27:09

to is calling critical race theory and many

1:27:12

of the huckster's complete grifters from

1:27:14

the beginning. Nobody much cared in twenty

1:27:16

eighteen. In twenty nineteen about critical race theory

1:27:18

or emerging con artists like Nicole Hannah Jones

1:27:21

and Ibram Kendy, but I had my eye on

1:27:23

them. Those who want to see can go back and watch

1:27:25

rising coverage from at that time of me calling them out

1:27:27

if you're interested. I saw them clearly for what

1:27:29

they were, nothing more than modern day race hosters,

1:27:31

capitalizing on the guilds of white liberals

1:27:34

to both enrich themselves, advance their careers,

1:27:36

and destroy any social fabric left

1:27:38

in this country that is not obsessed

1:27:40

with race. Jones, Kendy, Robin

1:27:43

DiAngelo. They had one single mission,

1:27:45

convinced the elites in this country there is one

1:27:48

source for all of our problems and nothing

1:27:50

else race. This is reductive

1:27:52

and a false view of history, but it was successful.

1:27:55

Ultraliberals on campuses were beginning

1:27:57

to be indoctrinated, slowly but surely.

1:27:59

In Infrastructure was built up all throughout

1:28:01

twenty eighteen and nineteen for the perfect

1:28:03

moment, and luckily for them, it came with

1:28:05

the BLM riots of twenty twenty. White

1:28:08

liberals and corporations suddenly began playing

1:28:10

Olympics to see who could outwoke or out

1:28:12

virtue signal each other, and these people were

1:28:14

happy to take their money. Kendy,

1:28:16

especially Kendy, is unsurprisingly

1:28:18

the dumbest and yet the most successful

1:28:20

amongst them. He has written several books

1:28:23

about quote anti racism. He

1:28:25

advocates for such ideas as a constitutional

1:28:27

anti racist amendment, literal race

1:28:29

discrimination in favor of blacks, and

1:28:31

brainwashing children from a young age

1:28:33

about his view of race. Every

1:28:35

genderquer bookstore in this country has his book

1:28:38

bury at the front row, and billionaires

1:28:40

have flooded this man with money to continue

1:28:42

his important work. He decided

1:28:44

to use that money in conjunction with Boston University

1:28:47

to create a new center and henceforwarth In

1:28:49

twenty twenty, the Center for Anti Racist

1:28:51

Research was born. It sounds as smart

1:28:53

as the Zoolander one, now endowed

1:28:55

with tens of millions of dollars and a new mandate

1:28:58

to research and promote the anti racist cump. Three

1:29:00

years later, though, it turns out the entire

1:29:03

thing was as much of a grift as

1:29:05

a con as I thought from the very beginning.

1:29:07

More than half of the employees of the center were abruptly

1:29:09

fired just recently after Kenny has apparently

1:29:12

burned through much of forty three million

1:29:14

dollars. In that time period. They have produced

1:29:17

no real research, applied for and

1:29:19

given grants with no work output,

1:29:21

no real original work to speak of. In

1:29:23

fact, one professor at the university said

1:29:26

Kenny quote had a pattern of amassing

1:29:28

grants without any commitment to producing

1:29:31

the research obligated, adding that, to

1:29:33

the best of my knowledge, there is no good faith

1:29:35

commitment to fulfilling funded research

1:29:37

projects. She wrote that in twenty twenty

1:29:39

one, instead of thanking her, the university

1:29:41

retaliated against her, refusing to even

1:29:43

renew her affiliation. The grift is

1:29:45

now so obvious Boston University has

1:29:48

had to launch an official inquiry into Kendy's

1:29:50

leadership. They note that originally the center

1:29:52

was supposed to track racial disparities nationwide,

1:29:55

have a graduate degree program, a media

1:29:58

enterprise, and research teams on semic

1:30:00

racism. Only one of those

1:30:02

projects ever came to fruition, a half

1:30:04

assed media project, the so called Racial

1:30:06

Data Tracker, did not, which was supposed

1:30:08

to be the centerpiece for all their work

1:30:11

and their funding. As for the graduate degree

1:30:13

programs, nope, nowhere to be seen.

1:30:15

In fact, it turns out that Kendy for the last

1:30:18

several months, has been on leave

1:30:20

from his own center that he was supposed

1:30:22

to be running, why to work on things

1:30:24

like his podcast, his new ESPN

1:30:27

Plus series about racism and sports

1:30:29

called Skin in the Game, And while he's

1:30:32

rolling in corporate cash and enriching

1:30:34

himself. The people who worked there saw

1:30:36

him quote as a tool of capitalism,

1:30:39

and would often exploit them and their label

1:30:41

labor. One professor called it a

1:30:43

colossal waste of millions of dollars and

1:30:46

noted that Kenny's work was thought to even be influenced

1:30:48

by many of the billionaire donors who had backed him

1:30:50

and the university, including rolling

1:30:53

out the red carpet for big pharma executives.

1:30:55

It would all be funny if millions of people

1:30:57

had not bought this idiot's book and shoved it down

1:31:00

their children's throat. The media had not celebrated

1:31:02

him with some modern, modern day Frederick

1:31:04

Douglass for a while in this country, as I said,

1:31:07

you couldn't even go into a bookstore or Barnes and Noble

1:31:09

without seeing how to be an anti racist or

1:31:11

anti racist baby prominently displayed.

1:31:14

You couldn't turn on the TV or watch a movie

1:31:16

without having this racialism at the center. And

1:31:18

how many of us couldn't even open social media without

1:31:20

seeing his signature quote. It's not enough

1:31:22

to not be racist, you must be actively

1:31:24

anti racist. It was everywhere. The

1:31:27

collapse of the Kendy Center, the wasting of

1:31:29

millions of dollars it's the latest casualty

1:31:31

of the BLM movement. Who can forget the BLM

1:31:33

executive coccused of stealing ten million dollars

1:31:35

of donor funds who use them as a quote personal

1:31:38

piggybank, or the multi million dollar mansions

1:31:40

that were purchased by these groups leaders. I am

1:31:42

hard pressed really to think of a single

1:31:44

major figure in the so called movement who

1:31:46

got prominent after Ferguson, who hasn't

1:31:49

turned out to be a grifter rather than one who is

1:31:51

honest. And I'm going to end with this. The billionaires

1:31:53

and the frankly rich white liberals, they owe only

1:31:55

themselves to blame. These people were never

1:31:57

hidden who they are. Nicole Hannah Jones famously

1:32:00

appeared in a so called racial justice movement sponsored

1:32:02

by Shell Corporation. Anti racism

1:32:04

has always been a tool of the billionaire

1:32:07

class to distract and to divide the populace.

1:32:09

It is not an accident that it was the prevailing thought

1:32:11

after BLM, and is certainly not an

1:32:14

accent that despite all these revelations, all

1:32:16

of us know this. Kendy's going to get away with

1:32:18

it. ESPN the podcast.

1:32:20

He'll still be called for commentary during the next

1:32:22

racial incendiary moment. The grift

1:32:25

is the point. The only thing we can do is

1:32:27

not buy into it next time. I mean,

1:32:29

Crystal, it's been it's I mean, I know you're no fan

1:32:32

of Ibram Kennedy, but he was the

1:32:34

perfect person. You know. I have a funny story.

1:32:36

I was in a book club and in twenty

1:32:38

eighteen I think that was Stamped by Racism. That

1:32:40

was a stamp by race or whatever it was called. It was the first

1:32:43

time I remember this is the It was a trash

1:32:45

book. But one of the guys in charge was

1:32:47

I'm not going to give away the name. He was like a dean of a liberal

1:32:49

arts college, and he's like, I think this really speaks

1:32:51

to to me. And I brought up some of the class concerns,

1:32:54

even at that time, before I even started

1:32:56

the show with you, and it was like I was speaking gibberish

1:32:58

to this ma. He said, no, no addresses that in the book.

1:33:00

All class concerns are downstream

1:33:03

of race. And I was like, well, okay, hold

1:33:05

on a second here. Now, we would be fools

1:33:07

to say that it's not deeply intertwined.

1:33:10

But the causality and then the things

1:33:12

that they reach for as their solutions are

1:33:14

obviously very much at odds for a lot of what

1:33:16

we believe in here at this show.

1:33:17

I mean this times in perfectly with Freddie

1:33:20

Debor's latest books that we interviewed him

1:33:22

about how elites hijack the social justice

1:33:24

movement as I think what it's called. And

1:33:27

look, capitalism has created a

1:33:29

class race stratified society

1:33:32

very intentionally, and there is no

1:33:34

doubt that black people, starting with slavery

1:33:37

and throughout our history have been completely

1:33:39

screwed by our system. And

1:33:41

so what really discussed me

1:33:44

about people like Kenny

1:33:46

is that they use these moments

1:33:49

when there's a genuine desire.

1:33:53

To do better.

1:33:54

There was, I mean, there was a collective outpouring

1:33:57

of grief and concern

1:33:59

and desire to change and all of these

1:34:01

things in the you know, during

1:34:04

the BLM moment after George Floyd

1:34:06

was murdered. And so when you

1:34:08

had people like you know, Kendy

1:34:11

and people like the you know, the

1:34:13

BLM leaders who sucked up

1:34:15

all of these millions of dollars and

1:34:18

activist energy and then channeled

1:34:20

them into things that oftentimes, I mean Kenny's

1:34:23

programs were found at

1:34:25

the corporate level to actually exacerbate

1:34:28

racism, like you took

1:34:30

this I'm going to say, you stole this.

1:34:31

Money and did nothing with it at this

1:34:33

center.

1:34:34

Anybody worse.

1:34:35

And it's no surprise because of

1:34:37

course, like any

1:34:39

this is the way, this is the way capitalism works.

1:34:41

Right, You have this moment of

1:34:44

what could have been a real reckoning that could

1:34:46

have really transformed things in a better

1:34:48

way for everyone, and most of all for black

1:34:50

people who have been oppressed for far

1:34:52

too long. And so they look at that not

1:34:55

as like, oh, how can we make things better, but

1:34:57

like.

1:34:57

How can we turn a profit?

1:34:59

How well can we you know, put

1:35:01

up our Black Lives Matter banner

1:35:03

on our website? How can we hire this

1:35:06

anti racism consultant and do

1:35:09

a little dance like we're so virtuous

1:35:11

and like we really care about these issues without

1:35:13

actually really changing anything.

1:35:16

And so lo and behold, that's exactly

1:35:18

what happened, and no one should be surprised

1:35:21

when this is the ultimate outcome of his

1:35:23

you know, quote unquote Think Tank or Center or

1:35:25

whatever the hell is thinking and.

1:35:26

The words of the great Eric Hoffer. Every great cause

1:35:29

begins as a movement, becomes a business, eventually

1:35:31

degenerates into a racket. There

1:35:33

you go, sad to say. All

1:35:37

right, guys, we're gonna have a great show for everybody tomorrow.

1:35:39

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1:35:41

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1:35:43

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1:35:45

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