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The President issuing a statement, Eric Adams
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Yes, of course that is the most important
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So if you want to go ahead and sign up, we would welcome
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you to do so. But as we teased everybody on
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Thursday, a big vote was happening
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in the House of Representatives after
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Speaker Mike Johnson stabbed his own party
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in the back and decided to pass aid
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for Ukraine and for Israel,
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using an unprecedented parliamentary
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maneuver which basically allowed Democrats
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to vote for the Ukraine aid Republicans
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to vote for.
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The Israeli aid package.
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It all together and create the greatest uniparty
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war funding that Washington has ever
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seen. And they did not disappoint in
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their display of dual loyalty.
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Let's go and put this up.
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There on the screen as the
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votes passed through the House of Representatives
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that officially got the
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bill. Across the aisle, you
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see Ukraine flags that
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are all across chantings
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Slava Ukraine. You've got
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non American flag in site there by the way, on the
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flag of the House Representatives. And don't worry,
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there Israel flags on the other side too, so don't
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act like they didn't exist there.
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They're being passed out. What some representatives
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Crystal were.
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Actually facetiming Ukrainian soldiers
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who are on the front line, just to say you're
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welcome.
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We finally have accomplished it for
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you.
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And I guess the main takeaway that we can have from
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this is just the absolute level
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of dedication that these people have to
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moving heaven and earth to spend hundreds
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of billions for foreign nations
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so that they can conduct war. They've never
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done it once for the rest of us, but
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for this, of course, we can break precedent.
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Screw you know. There's no talk of filibuster
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or any of that other stuff. Yeh, whenever it comes
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to this, sixty some billion dollars from Ukraine,
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twenty six billion dollars for Israel, the vast
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majority of that being fed entirely to the military
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industrial complex and to these nations with it
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comple leet blank check that's given to them.
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Which is something they weirdly are like bragging about,
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like that's a selling point, Like, don't worry, this
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is a lot of this money is going to go to the military industrial
4:08
complex. Don't you feel great about that?
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Now?
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Listen, when it comes to you getting
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healthcare, you're getting higher wages.
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When it comes to you know, making sure seniors
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can live on Social Security, your people
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can afford childcare. You've got universal
4:21
access to preschool, or people can even just
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take paid leave if they, you know, are
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having a baby. None of that.
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We can't get that done. We don't have the money, et
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cetera, et cetera. It's too difficult, it's too hard.
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But they will move heaven and earth to
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make sure that we continue funding
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wars, whether it is Listen,
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with regard to Ukraine, I'm incredibly
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sympathetic to the Ukrainians. I think it was
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wrong and illegal, the Russian invasion,
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But we have to be real about the fact at this point
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that number one, we're the ones
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who have dragged them to continue
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this war by thwarting diplomatic negotiations.
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Number Two, there is no
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end in sight. There's not even a fig
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leaf of hey, once we give them this money, then victories
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around the corner. There's none of that. And
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number three, their own
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people at this point, the
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military age men of their own population
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do not want to fight. So we know the
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reports about people who are disabled,
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who are too old, who have
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mental disabilities, being
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pulled off the street and sent to the front lines,
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and we're celebrating putting the guns in
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their hands. We're celebrating with regard
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to Israel. Look at what has happened
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here. I mean, according to Euromag,
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human rights min are over forty thousand Palestinian
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scaled. There was just we're going to cover this later. A strike
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on two strikes on Rafa killed twenty two people,
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eighteen of them children. The
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entire Gaza strip is annihilated, aid
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workers slaughtered, and we're still
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shipping them weapons as if
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none of this has happened. It's
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outrageous. I mean, they're really I'm not surprised
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by it. I knew at some point
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they would figure out how to get this done.
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But you know, if you want a glimpse into
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why, politicians like Mike
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Johnson. He's always been fervently
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Zionis. I mean, the first thing he did when he became speaker
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members call met and Yahoo and passed some anti
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Semitism resolution. That
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one's not surprising. But he did a one eighty on
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Ukraine and put this next piece up on
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the screen. You wonder why, because this is the media
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treatment you get by passing
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Ukraine aid. Johnson became
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an unlikely church Hill. There
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is nothing but plaudits from the
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media for funding wars
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over and over and over again.
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Remember how Joe Biden one good thing Joe
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Biden did withdrawing from Afghanistan. Relentlessly
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trash for that, even though it was overwhelmingly
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what the American people wanted.
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Here Johnson going against,
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especially on Israel. I'll show you the pulling and a
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little bit what the American people wanting,
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and suddenly all their vaunted concern for democracy
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evaporates when it comes to sending
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your hard on tax dollars into these
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conflicts to slaughter for children.
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Yeah, I will be honest, this is the blackest pill
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that I've had in a really long time. After all
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the work that we've done here on the show,
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that the media and others. Even they
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have been forced to admit the failure of
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the cause in Ukraine, they still
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decide to do sixty billion dollars.
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What so that and this is the worst
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park Crystal. This sixty billion dollars will
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have a single objective. It will prolong this war
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for about one more year. According
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to the funding statistics that have come out, this will buy
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them approximately half of their failed counter
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offensive. The net result of this is going
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to be probably a bunch of fifty
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to seventy year old Ukrainian men
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who are going to lose limbs. Now,
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after that period dries up, and they
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continue to fail on the front line and
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continue to have a five to one artillery
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disadvantage against the Russians, and the Russians continue
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to recoup all of the losses
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that they've already had in their military ravevamp
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their military industrial complex, have their
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economy grow according to the if
8:00
a nonpartisan source, more
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than the entire European Union. After
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all of that is now clear, a year from now, what
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do you think is going to happen? Sixty billion
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will pale to what they are going to ask
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for now to rebuild Ukraine.
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Somebody's got to pay for all those limbs, and
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for all those dead guys, and for pensions
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and forever whatever survives,
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whatever rump of the Ukrainian state
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does eventually make it out of here, we will then
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be on the hook for that.
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It never ends. This has no
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purpose.
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Now, if they were using this for defensive purposes,
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maybe, okay, maybe it would have some
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sort of justification. But Zelenski
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does not commit to defense. Instead, he says,
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this will enable us for victory. How
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many times do we have to hear these fake cries
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of victory. They failed in the counter offensive.
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They have one of the most tactically inefficient
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and incompetent armies in the
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world. They have not able to use NATO
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tactics. Their weapons have made no difference
8:54
whenever they were flushed. Their lead
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general, the head that they replaced, their
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military commander with.
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His nickname is the Butcher.
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Not by the Russians, the people you would want him nickname,
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the Butcher, by his own people. That's what they call
9:06
him the Butcher, because his entire strategy
9:08
is to just throw as many people into this as
9:11
possible on Israel as well, I mean even
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zoom out.
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Just from Israel's own actions.
9:15
What have they done to make America
9:17
more safe, nothing invite more
9:19
attacks on American service members
9:22
World War III. Multiple are dead now
9:24
as a result of our posture
9:26
in the Middle East in retaliation for Israel's
9:28
actions, tens of
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billions of dollars that has been
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spent deploying US military
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and naval assets. The defense against
9:37
the Iranian attack alone costs the United States
9:39
one point three billion dollars in missile interceptors
9:42
and including missiles that cost some twenty
9:45
four million dollars each deployed
9:47
by the US to shoot down Iranian
9:49
ballistic missiles, only to then invite
9:51
in Israeli strike out on Iran with God
9:53
knows what the hell is going to happen in retaliation.
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So now what you know, where.
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Are we Why are we
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all paying for this to continue
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whenever we clearly could put an end
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to it if we wanted. So in both cases, you
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have wars that are making America less safe,
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that are bad for the populations I would.
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Say, both of Israel and for the population
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of Gaza. Yeah, which I could easily make that
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case.
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The only people who are benefiting are the war manufacturers
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and the religion of the dual loyalty
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leadership class in this country, and I'm going to continue
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to use.
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That really triple loyalty a vice.
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What I would say is this is that this is
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you know Trump. I always go back.
10:30
I went back to read about seven years ago. He gave
10:32
a speech which clearly didn't believe, but it was
10:34
a good speech done the last It was his first foreign policy
10:37
speech, and he has a line in there which has always stuck
10:39
with me is that we will not worship no longer
10:41
at the false song of globalism. And
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that's when I see Ukrainian
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and Israeli flags being waived
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on the floor of the United States House of Representatives,
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When I see our Speaker of the House with
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two flags on his lapel, hell not a
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lapel, neither of which are the
10:58
United States flag, but are two nations which he
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just broke parliamentary procedure to spend
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hundreds of billions of dollars to. I can say
11:05
nothing else than these people are loyal to a foreign
11:07
government and not to our own. Now, Speaker
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Johnson actually loyal to even higher
11:12
authority than any nation. Gave a justification
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in particular for some of this, Israel aid on Newsmax.
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Let's take a lesson.
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Israel is a critical ally of ours, and I
11:20
think most people understand the necessity of
11:22
this funding. They're fighting for their very existence.
11:24
They're the only stable democracy in the Middle East.
11:27
I mean, of course, for those of us who are
11:29
believers, it's a biblical admonition to stand with Israel.
11:31
We will and they will prevail as
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long as they're there with them. And this is an important,
11:36
very important symbolic gesture
11:38
and a very important replenishment of their stockpiles,
11:40
for example of the Iron Dome. The reason they shot
11:42
down all those drones and missiles in the
11:44
last attack by Iran is because we
11:46
assisted with that. I think the American people understand
11:48
the importance of that.
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Did you guys hear that line?
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For those of us who are believers, it is a biblical
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admonition to stand with Israel.
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It's like, well, if it's in the Bible, I guess there
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ain't getting around that.
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This is this is literally out of his mouth
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the speaker of the House of Representatives,
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the third in line for the American presidency,
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who believes that he is like what some
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hand of God?
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And don't let's not let this go either.
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John Hagey, who is the pastor
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who leads the ten million Christian group
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you know for Israel, was here in Washington
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just two days before and met with Speaker
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Johnson, probably to give him the language
12:25
that he needs. And all of the reporting that
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we've gotten since Crystal is that the way that
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Johnson arrived at this is that he
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prayed on him. And listen, you know, I'm not going to
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put down people who are religious and who pray.
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I think that's fine, But I would
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just simply ask that in the United States
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of America, a country with a separation
12:42
of church and state, that we arrive at policy
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decisions through reason, intellect,
12:47
and you know, possible debate, rather
12:50
than from biblical admonition.
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My simple request, Well, what this
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means is that it actually does
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not matter to Speaker Johnson
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what Israel does doesn't matter. Doesn't
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matter whether it is truly
13:04
a genocide, doesn't matter, whether there are
13:07
war crimes, doesn't matter, whether
13:09
it's good for America's interest or not.
13:12
It doesn't matter because for him
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it's a quote biblical admonition.
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You can't argue. I mean, there's no debate
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with that. That's just like no, my
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fervent, ideological, unshakable
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belief is that God requires
13:28
me to support Israel, no
13:30
matter the cost or consequence for Palestinians,
13:33
no matter the cost or consequence for Americans.
13:35
And this is one of the most powerful
13:38
people in the country, if
13:41
not the world, who
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is making policy decisions this way, Like,
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what can you even say about that? And you see
13:48
how motivating this is among a certain
13:51
segment of the Republican base as why I keep
13:53
talking about this, but I think it's so extraordinarily revealing.
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When there was polling asking by religious
13:58
demographic group, how do you feel
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about the net Nyahu government? Not even about
14:03
Israel or you know what's happening in Gaza, but
14:05
just the net Nyahu government. The
14:07
religious group that gave him the highest approval
14:09
ratings was not Jewish people. It
14:12
was by a mile white Evangelical
14:14
Christians. So that's,
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you know, that's what's motivating him with regard
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to Israel. I think that's an important part of
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how he ended up flipping on a dime
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with regard to Ukraine as well, because
14:26
he realized, in order to fulfill
14:28
his biblical admonition to
14:30
support Israel no matter what, he was also going
14:32
to have to play ball with Democrats on the Ukraine Bill.
14:35
Let's not forget the way he also flipped on a dime
14:37
with regard to making sure Americans can continue
14:39
to be surveilled. And you know the other
14:42
piece of this saga is that he talks about,
14:44
in addition to his religious
14:46
faith, he also talks about
14:48
how the Intel Committee,
14:50
how the Intelligence Agency, how
14:52
they really you know, they really got to him, what they
14:54
had to say to him. And we've seen this a
14:57
lot of times. You saw this with Trump as well. It's
14:59
so easy to roll these people. It's so easy
15:01
to scare them and manipulate them,
15:03
saying we saw the same thing with Obama too, by
15:05
the way, when he was Prisident of the United States. Especially
15:07
when you have someone who was inexperienced, who
15:09
hasn't been around the block, who hasn't seen
15:11
these tactics which are rolled out by
15:14
yes, the deep state over and over and over
15:16
again, they get rolled so easily,
15:20
especially when his religious
15:22
belief also leads him in the direction
15:25
of wanting to pass both the
15:28
Israel Aid and the Ukrainian AID in
15:30
order to make sure that Israel is getting their dollars
15:32
to keep bombing babies.
15:34
If you guys want an
15:36
inside of you into this. There's a book called Obama's
15:38
Wars by Bob Woodward. It was written back
15:40
in twenty ten. It's specifically about
15:43
the decision that Obama was forced
15:45
into to do the surge in Afghanistan,
15:47
the way that David Petraeus, Stan McCrystal,
15:51
Mike mullen, and the Joint chiefs of Staff, the
15:53
US Intelligence Community of the CIA
15:55
basically set Obama up for complete
15:57
failure. If he didn't then
16:00
I promise to a surge, and we
16:02
had a chance at that time to actually pull
16:04
out of the country, and instead we escalated
16:06
for that. I highly recommend people read that because
16:09
that is mechanically the exact way
16:11
that you, even as the president, can get set
16:13
up by these people. And tuckers some
16:15
thoughts on that too, by the way, which we'll get a
16:17
little bit in the show, but we
16:19
would be remiss if we didn't highlight a
16:21
little bit of how again, we came to this decision.
16:24
Let's put this police up there on the screen from
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CNN. They confirm it. Quote he was torn
16:29
between having to save his job and do the right thing.
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Congressman Mike McCall said, quote, he
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prayed over it. Prayer
16:36
apparently the way that Speaker Johnson
16:38
arrived at this. Now, let's take a look at the poll,
16:40
shall we, you know, in the ostensible way
16:43
that we live in a democracy. Let's go and put
16:45
this up there on the screen. Here's what we've got
16:47
on Israel. This is April twelfth, twenty twenty
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four. Should more weapons and supplies
16:52
to Israel? Should we send more? Should or
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should not? All should?
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Forty sixty should not?
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Democrats thirty two percent should,
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Sixty eight percent say should not. Independence
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thirty eight percent say should, sixty four
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percent say not.
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Republicans No, not that much difference at all.
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Republicans fifty five percent say should,
17:11
forty five percent say they should not. And
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what's also important to keep in mind
17:16
for that plus ten is that even
17:18
nearly half of the Republicans are saying
17:20
there we shouldn't send more weapons to Israel. Now,
17:23
in terms of the look
17:25
at the vote, where we actually have the
17:27
amount of military that's being sent to Israel, you
17:30
have some plus sixty
17:32
four members who actually
17:34
end up voting then four the
17:37
actual military eight to Israel in
17:39
no way representative of their
17:41
base. And the exact same thing holds
17:43
true for Ukraine. Let's go and put this up there
17:45
on the screen, and what do we find. This
17:48
is just from the latest poll that happened
17:50
on Ukraine, where we see,
17:52
amongst US adults, only
17:54
twenty seven percent say that we are
17:57
doing too little for Ukraine. Thirty
17:59
three percent say, quote about the right amount, and
18:01
that was prior to the package, and too much
18:03
is now the majoritarian position at thirty
18:05
seven Only Democrats forty four
18:07
percent say we're doing too little. Amongst
18:10
Republicans, fourteen percent say we're
18:12
doing too little, twenty nine percent say about the
18:14
right right about right, and fifty
18:16
five percent say that we are doing too much.
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So, as we can all see very
18:21
clearly, the Republicans were a majority
18:23
of the Republicans in the House of Representatives voted
18:25
against Ukraine aid, were rolled by
18:27
their speaker to work with Democrats, and basically
18:29
here Democrats just are much
18:31
more willing I guess to ignore some of their base on
18:34
that question, but then work also
18:36
with Republicans who overwhelmingly voted
18:38
for the Israeli. So you have two
18:41
parties basically behold into two foreign
18:43
nations. Loyalty, try
18:45
loyalty, I guess across all of
18:47
this and work in tandem
18:50
to make this push to the United States Senate,
18:52
where tomorrow on Tuesday, it's
18:54
almost certainly going to become the law of
18:56
the land. And they're already salivating
18:59
at the Pentagon over shipping
19:01
long range weapons to Ukraine,
19:03
long range weapons in US stockpiles,
19:06
long range weapons which will be used to strike
19:08
inside of Russian territory or the crimean
19:11
grid bridge.
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And who do you think is going to bear the cost of that?
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It's the United States of America if Ukraine
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gets itself in a bigger conflagration.
19:18
So let me ask you a question, Sager, because
19:20
I am a little conflicted about how to
19:22
think about this. So, as you just pointed
19:24
out, you know, the Democratic base is first
19:27
of all, they've been overwhelmingly in favor of a ceasefire.
19:29
A majority of Joe Biden voters say yes, this is
19:31
a genocide, and they are overwhelmingly
19:34
opposed to shipping more military
19:36
aid to Israel. Certainly,
19:38
the numbers of Democrats in the House that
19:41
voted against this Israel aid package
19:44
do not reflect the sentiment of
19:46
the base. So that's on the one hand.
19:48
On the other hand, compared
19:50
to previous aid military
19:53
aid to Israel, thirty seven
19:56
voting. Thirty seven Democrats specifically
19:58
voting against it is a significantly
20:01
higher number than previously.
20:03
I think the last time there was a question about like replenishing
20:05
Iron Dome, sending a billion dollars for that, I was like nine
20:08
Democrats who voted against it. So
20:11
how do you look at that? And especially when
20:13
there were you know, it wasn't just like AOC
20:15
and ilhan Omar. You had a number
20:17
of longtime members who are
20:20
in leadership positions who even voted
20:22
against that. So how do you think about that?
20:24
I think exactly what I do in Ukraine doesn't
20:26
matter.
20:27
The majority of Republicans, the party in power
20:29
in House of Representatives voted against
20:31
A to Ukraine.
20:33
Didn't matter. The speaker wanted it,
20:35
so do the Democrats. It doesn't
20:37
like our We could have a.
20:38
Majority Democrats who are going to oppose
20:40
Israel and they would still find a way to make it pass.
20:43
That's what you should take away from this is like party
20:45
politics does not matter when the uniparty actually
20:47
wants something. It only matters whenever we're talking
20:49
about mortgage rates or housing assistants
20:52
or basically anything that would actually
20:54
help any of us. If they wanted to
20:56
get it done. They will get it done. The
20:59
majority of the American public thinks we're doing too much
21:01
for Ukraine, and that was before the sixty
21:03
billion dollars that we just shipped over there.
21:06
The vast majority of Republicans
21:08
say and oppose this military
21:10
aid for Ukraine.
21:12
It doesn't matter, you know. Trump can bamboozle
21:14
them. Danglo will stop the steal in.
21:16
Front of their eyes, and they'll forget whenever
21:18
it comes to election day. Aside for
21:20
some young people, most people are going to vote on abortion,
21:22
and most people are not going to are going to remember that, are
21:24
not going to remember this whenever it comes time to the
21:27
ballot box. I already saw a clip of AOC I think
21:30
with Mehdi Hassen and he was like, what do you say to
21:32
somebody who is not going to vote for Biden? Yeah,
21:34
And she's like, well, I am on the side of democracy,
21:36
you know, not only here but across the world.
21:38
I'm like, okay, all right, cool, I mean, there's just
21:41
nothing that will ever happen where you're not going to
21:43
vote against the Republicans. Most Republicans
21:45
vote exactly the same way on the margins.
21:47
There may be some but at the end of the day, they
21:49
can stablish. They don't even stablish in the back, they stablish
21:51
in the front, and they twist the knife and then they they
21:54
give the you know, the knife over to us, and
21:56
then they accuse you of being the one who's
21:58
in the wrong, and they're like, why are you committing
22:01
violence when all this is happening, Yeah,
22:03
which is why you have to go and vote in order to bandit yourself
22:05
up.
22:05
I do think there's a bit of a warning sign here though, for
22:08
Israel on the other hand, because you
22:10
know, there used to be this
22:13
total lockstep uniformity
22:16
that no one broke from, and
22:18
that you know, anyone who did knew
22:21
that was going to be the end of their political career.
22:24
And even with a pack that Israel
22:26
lobby threatening to spend one hundred million
22:28
dollars in primaries against
22:30
anyone who even thinks of dissenting,
22:33
even with that kind of firepower
22:36
trained at now you know, all thirty seven of
22:38
these individuals who voted against this funding,
22:41
they still were willing to do it and still
22:43
feel like they'll be able to hold onto their seats and
22:45
that you know that it was worth paying that price, or
22:47
that there's enough energy on the other side
22:49
to make up for the fact that they could
22:51
have that money spent against them. So I
22:54
do think as disheartening
22:57
and depressing as this is, there is a bit of a
22:59
warning sign here for Israel and
23:01
that they just don't have quite the lockstep
23:04
control that they once did.
23:05
I don't disagree.
23:06
I think twenty five thirty years from now, you're
23:08
right. Yeah again, I just point to Ukraine.
23:11
You can lose the public and they'll
23:13
still get it done for you. So in the near term,
23:15
folks, sign up, because if
23:17
it's up to these people, we would die for
23:19
foreign countries before we would ever die,
23:22
you know, for any of our own interests. And that
23:24
is the clearest takeaway that we have. I
23:28
would be remiss if I didn't leave
23:31
out President Donald Trump's role
23:33
in making sure that this Ukraine aid
23:35
actually happened. There's been a lot of you
23:38
know, papering over by the magabase
23:41
as to how exactly Trump went from
23:43
a guy who spoke again a four
23:45
Ukrainian peace, remember in the famous
23:48
CNN moment on the town hall when he said,
23:50
I'm for you know, stopping the dying.
23:52
I want to find peace.
23:53
I would have peace there in a second, the
23:56
democratic liberal media is like, oh,
23:58
well he would pull money away from Ukraine
24:00
on day one. Well, you know, he also was the one who shipped
24:02
a lot of lethle aid to Ukraine back in twenty
24:04
fifteen. But Mike Johnson and others
24:07
and Lindsey Graham basically convinced Trump
24:09
to endorse some bs lend lease
24:11
loan program to the most corrupt and poor
24:13
nation.
24:14
In all of Europe.
24:15
And let's not forget Lindsey
24:17
Graham here now saying that it was Trump.
24:20
Trump himself is the one responsible
24:22
for getting this through the House. Let's take a lisson.
24:24
So, with all due respect to Senator
24:26
Events, he's wrong. We
24:28
were told within four days Key
24:31
would fall.
24:31
But is he wrong about the math? Yea. Is
24:34
he wrong about the production?
24:35
Yeah, he's wrong the whole concept
24:38
that we can't deal with multiple
24:40
problems. In World War Two, we fought
24:43
the Germans and the Japanese. We
24:45
have an industrial base that needs to be retooled.
24:48
But the Ukrainian military,
24:50
with our help, has killed about
24:53
fifty percent of the combat power of the Russians.
24:55
If you pull the plug on Ukraine, Coach, you
24:57
don't have enough capability. There goes
25:00
Taiwan. Ukrainians are fighting
25:02
like tigers. This aid package has
25:04
a loan component to it. This would
25:06
not have passed without Donald Trump. I
25:09
want to thank the House Speaker and the King
25:11
Jeffrey's working together in a bipartisan
25:13
fashion to give weapons to Ukraine
25:16
to buy to fight that matters to us and prosident
25:18
Trump has created a loan component
25:21
to this package. It gives us leverage down the
25:23
road. So this idea that we can't help
25:25
U Traine, Israel and Taiwan
25:27
at the same time, I reject
25:29
that.
25:30
I want to thank President Trump for
25:32
making this to go through it now. Listen,
25:34
According to MAGA Defenders, Crystal, Trump
25:37
has been bamboos.
25:38
Trump can Trump cannot fail. It can only
25:40
be failing.
25:40
And so if Lindsey Graham went down and
25:42
look, Trump is an idiot, like, let's be honest on policy,
25:45
just doesn't care, it doesn't care about He cares about basically
25:47
one thing, trade and I may be immigration on
25:49
depending on the day. And so when Lindsay
25:51
Graham goes down there and he's.
25:52
Like it be alone, it wouldn't be giving it to them.
25:55
Trump's like, wow, alone, Well, that's
25:57
great as a businessman, and
25:59
so what do they do. They write in some bullshit
26:01
loan into the text, and then they
26:03
don't tell you that Biden is the president after
26:05
he signs it.
26:06
Oh, and he can just forgive the entire loan.
26:07
Oh and by the way, the loan is interest free and it has
26:10
an indefinite period on when you supposedly
26:12
get paid back. And so is it alone
26:14
if there's no enforcement terms and there's
26:16
no interest, or is it a gift. It's a
26:18
gift, that's what's happening here. And so
26:21
it's a complete fake out. And so Trump
26:23
is there's two options. Trump is either too dumb
26:25
to know the difference between a fake loan and
26:27
a real loan and then allow himself to get
26:29
bamboozled, or he supports
26:32
shipping weapons to Ukraine.
26:34
Either has the same net effect to me. So
26:36
I don't care. So it's Trump's fault that this is
26:39
all went through.
26:39
Yeah, And of course Republican voters they're like
26:42
freaking sheep, you know, they're just gonna sit there
26:44
and eat the grab bo, like, oh, it's so terrible with
26:46
the liberal media is saying about mister
26:48
Trump here, It's like, no, this is on Trump.
26:50
Lindsey Graham ate the rhino. Trump
26:53
is the one who decided to let it pass. So let's
26:55
all just be real clear why it's gonna happen. If Trump gets
26:57
reelected, who does he actually listen to
27:00
And is he still you know, so dumb to
27:02
be able to allow himself to be fooled. And if you are fine
27:04
with that, cool, but just be real honest
27:06
about what your voting.
27:07
Yeah, the hope. Consistently,
27:10
whenever Trump goes against
27:12
what, you know, what he promised the base,
27:15
it's always, oh, it's not his fault and the versisioner's
27:17
fault. It's this person that's a deep state, it says,
27:19
it's that like, this is an adult
27:22
man who was president of the United
27:24
States at some point he
27:26
has to be responsible for his own actions.
27:28
And you know, so Marjorie Taylor Green,
27:31
she was against all of this, and she's been
27:33
very you know, unspoken, et cetera, et cetera,
27:35
and on this I'm actually, you know, on the same
27:37
side of her, But she
27:40
never points the finger at
27:42
Donald Trump and his culpability here. That's
27:45
somehow left out of her analysis.
27:47
When yeah, you got Lindsey Graham there on TV
27:49
saying listen, I want to thank Mike Johnson, Hakeem
27:52
Jefferies, and Donald
27:54
Trump. Wouldn't happened without Trump, And
27:56
somehow that gets left out of
27:59
the critique hear from those on the Republican
28:01
side who are making.
28:01
A critiqus genius.
28:02
And again we have the evidence that
28:05
Trump endorsed it, because he literally
28:07
went to Mike Johnson, went down to Marlago,
28:09
did a joint press conference with Donald Trump
28:12
where Trump endorses on tape the
28:14
so called loan idea.
28:15
Let's take a lesson.
28:16
They're talking about it, and we're thinking about
28:18
making it in the form of a loan instead of just a
28:20
gift. We keep handing out gifts of billions
28:23
and billions of dollars, and we'll take a look at
28:25
it. But much more importantly to me is
28:27
the fact that Europe has to step up and they have to give
28:29
money. They have to equalize. If they
28:31
don't equalize, I'm very upset about it
28:33
because they're affected much more than we are. The
28:35
Ukraine situation would have never happened if ice
28:38
president would have never ever happened.
28:40
And everybody says that, including Democrats,
28:43
that it happened to such an outrage people,
28:45
millions of people are dead right now, both
28:47
sides. Millions of people are dead.
28:49
People keep pointing to that as if it's some evidence
28:51
for why he's changed his position. No, okay,
28:54
I agree with him on Europe. It doesn't matter. That's
28:57
not what you said. What matters is that you endorse
28:59
the loan. Now, for example, Matt Gates and others
29:01
were trying to claim that what we're about
29:03
to show you was a Trump saying he was
29:05
against the bill. Let's put this up there on the screen.
29:08
He says, why is in Europe giving more money to help Ukraine?
29:10
Why is it the United States is over one hundred million dollars
29:12
into the war and we have an ocean between us in a
29:14
separation. Why can't Europe equalize? Blah blah
29:16
blah blah blah. As everyone
29:18
agrees, Ukrainian survival
29:20
and strength should be much more important to
29:23
Europe than us, but it is also important
29:25
to us.
29:25
Oh, it is also important
29:27
to us. Now.
29:28
The only thing that he's even slightly critical of
29:30
is when he says, I am the only one who speaks for me,
29:33
and while it's a total mess caused by crooked
29:35
Joe Biden, blah blah blah, if I were president of this war
29:37
would have never started. That was because Mike Johnson
29:39
was going all over Washington saying, hey, if
29:41
you don't support this bill, then you're against President
29:44
Trump.
29:44
But he didn't come out against the bill. So
29:47
look, let's be very clear.
29:48
Trump came out very clear, very
29:50
very clearly against the Border aid
29:53
the border deal previously, and he
29:55
killed it, right, So he also came out
29:57
against Faiza, and he killed that.
29:59
Whenever you killed the vote. He had the.
30:02
Full capacity to kill this bill if he
30:04
wanted to, and he didn't, which means
30:06
he's responsible for letting this pass. He
30:08
endorsed it, and now he should bear
30:10
the consequences, just like Joe Biden does
30:13
whenever and whenever he's president to we
30:15
should not expect anything else from him.
30:17
Yeah, and please spare me the whole Like Donald Trump
30:19
is the anti war candidate, bullshit, There is
30:22
no anti war candidate in terms
30:24
of Biden and Trump or in terms of
30:26
RFK Junior. You could look at Jill Stein Cornell
30:28
West, but you know, likelihood
30:31
is that they're going to have a relatively minimal
30:33
impact, you know, with regards
30:36
to the comments about Europe. Also Michael
30:39
Tracy, who shout out to him, He's always
30:41
does a great job actually reading through these bills
30:43
and pulling out the important pieces and you
30:45
know, outlining some of these key bipartisan
30:48
dynamics. But you know, calling for
30:50
Europe to spend more on NATO or
30:52
calling for Europe to spend more on Ukraine
30:55
isn't a position in favor
30:57
of, you know, stepping away from NATO or step
31:00
away from Ukraine and trying to bring that war
31:02
to a close. It's a position in favor
31:04
of more funding. So he's not
31:06
saying we don't we shouldn't fund it, we should move
31:08
forward. He's saying, we obviously
31:10
we're going to continue funding it. We just want the
31:12
Europeans to also fund it additional
31:15
amounts. So, you know,
31:17
being hard on Europe is actually not consistent
31:21
with a position in favor
31:23
of we need to be looking for an
31:25
offer, if we need to be looking for some sort of a diplomatic
31:27
conclusion to this. And you know, I
31:30
will with regard to Ukraine, I'll just I'll
31:32
never be over the fact that we
31:34
undercut those original diplomatic
31:37
negotiations because now it
31:39
is in nowheresville. You
31:42
know, now the deal that they would get would be far
31:44
inferior. You know, now there is no real
31:47
negotiating leverage for Putin
31:49
and the Russia. At that point, they were on the back foot.
31:51
Things hadn't gone the way that they planned.
31:53
It didn't look good, so it would
31:55
have been a much stronger negotiating position. Now
31:58
it's just an endless mess.
32:01
And that's the approach they're taking to it is, let's just
32:03
continue to fund this. We don't need
32:05
a plan to conclude it. We're just going to
32:07
continue sending an entire you know, multiple
32:10
generations of Ukrainian men to the slaughter.
32:12
And then obviously, you know, with regard to Israel,
32:15
it's just a horror. It's just a horror. It's
32:17
an indefensible horror. The
32:19
last thing I want to make sure to mention, which it's
32:21
incredible, This isn't even really in the show
32:23
today, but you know, this whole escalation
32:26
with a run, which I think was very intentionally
32:28
timed as well, is part
32:30
of how the Israel Aid was able
32:32
to sail through as well, because
32:34
guess what, you know, suddenly, because
32:37
Israel starts this provocation by assassinating
32:40
top Iranian commanders at
32:43
their consulate building, which
32:45
is you know, a dramatic contravention
32:47
of the Vienna Convention, international law,
32:49
et cetera. They do that Irat and
32:51
response Israel's responding. Nothing
32:54
gets the bipartisan consensus
32:56
going more quickly than one
32:58
of the official bad guys nations, you
33:01
know, going after our big ally
33:03
in the Middle East. So when
33:05
we're talking about that, we're not talking about the suffering
33:07
and gods, we're not talking about the World Central Kitchen
33:09
Aid workers who were just massacred. We're
33:11
not talking about the apparently imminent
33:14
ground invasion of Rafa, which we'll get
33:16
to in just a bit. And so that's also
33:19
part of the cover that was provided
33:21
that allows this aid to sail through as well.
33:23
Yes, very well said.
33:26
So let's move on to some updates out of Israel.
33:29
So the US has
33:31
claimed, especially under Joe
33:33
Biden, that we support a two
33:36
state solution ultimately to
33:38
the Israel Palestine conflict.
33:41
So you might think that they would be in
33:43
favor of a UN Security
33:45
Council vote for Palestinian
33:47
statehood.
33:48
You would be wrong.
33:50
The US vetoed Palestinian
33:52
statehood recognition in the Security Council.
33:54
Let's seek a listen to how the State Department spins
33:57
these two very contradictory, apparently
34:00
positions.
34:00
How are you guys going to vote
34:03
so, Matt. Since October
34:06
seventh, we have been pretty clear that
34:08
sustainable peace in the region can only
34:11
be achieved through a two state
34:13
solution with Israel's
34:15
security guaranteed, and it remains
34:18
our view that the most expeditious path
34:20
towards statehood for
34:23
the Palestinian people is through direct
34:25
negotiations between Israel and
34:27
the Palestinian authority, with the support
34:29
of the United States and other partners
34:31
who share this goal. We believe
34:34
this approach cantangibly advanced Palestinian
34:36
goals in a meaningful and enduring way. We
34:38
also have been very clear consistently
34:41
that premature actions in New York, even
34:43
with the best intentions, will
34:45
not achieve statehood for the Palestinian
34:47
people. Additionally, as
34:50
reflected in the report of
34:52
the Admission Committee, there was not unimidity
34:55
among the committee members as to whether
34:58
the applicant met the criteria
35:00
of membership set forth in Article
35:03
four of the UN Charter. Specifically, there
35:05
are unresolved questions as to whether the
35:07
applicants can meet criteria to be considered
35:10
as a state, and Matt, as you
35:12
also know, We've long called on the Palestine
35:14
authority to undertake necessary reforms
35:17
to establish the
35:19
attributes of readiness for statehood. And
35:21
note that Hamas, which is, as
35:23
you all know, a terrorist organization, is currently
35:26
exerting power and influence in Gaza,
35:28
which would be an integral part of
35:30
the envisioned state in this resolution,
35:33
and for that reason, the United States is
35:35
voting no on this proposed
35:37
Security Council revolution. As an expert
35:40
of the UN, I will also I will
35:42
also just so note that,
35:45
due to statutory requirements, such
35:48
an admission of statehood would also require
35:50
the United States to cease its funding
35:53
to the United Nations.
35:54
So you gotta love that mon who says I just googled
35:56
expeditions how many years since Oslow.
36:00
It's just such a farce at this point and
36:03
the way this went down,
36:05
so we vetoed this resolution. There
36:07
were twelve who voted in favor. The US
36:10
was opposed alone by the way,
36:12
and there were two abstentions, UK and
36:14
Switzerland. Notably US allies,
36:17
France, Japan, and South Korea all supported
36:19
the resolution. Ken Klippenstein
36:22
and Daniel bogoslaw Over at the Intercept had some
36:24
good reporting about some of the diplomatic
36:26
pressure that was being applied in advance
36:29
of this vote. Can put this up on the screen.
36:32
By the way, though it doesn't appear that this diplomatic
36:34
pressure was very successful, since there were
36:36
no other votes against, only
36:39
two abstentions and a number of US allies
36:41
that actually voted in favor of Palestinian
36:44
statehood. The headline here leaked cables
36:46
show White House opposes Palestinian
36:48
statehood despite Button's pledges supported two state
36:51
solution. Cables argued that Palestine should not
36:53
be granted UN member
36:55
status. They put
36:57
pressure in particular on Ecuador, which
37:00
is the rotating member
37:02
on the UN Security Council,
37:05
and they said in language very
37:07
similar to what you heard there from the State Department.
37:09
Goal.
37:10
It remains the US view that the most expeditious
37:13
path toward a political horizon for the Palestinian
37:15
people is in the context of a normalization agreement
37:17
between Israel and its neighbors. We believe
37:19
this approach can tangibly advanced Palestining
37:21
goals in a meaningful and enduring way.
37:24
So expeditious approach, in
37:26
spite of the fact that this quote unquote
37:28
expeditious approach has been attempted
37:31
for decades at this point
37:33
with no conclusion.
37:34
So there you go.
37:35
Okay, all right, very interesting,
37:37
and this is part of why the entire thing
37:40
is ridiculous and why Matt Lee really
37:42
just underscored it. Where what is our policy
37:45
for this war and for this goverment. We keep
37:47
saying that the end result of this war has to
37:49
be a two state solution. It's like, well,
37:52
okay, which one West Bank
37:54
is going to have a like the Palestinian authority,
37:56
which barely has any authority, They're
37:59
going to be the one who have representation
38:01
in the United Nations. These people if
38:04
we are to give them a nation or to recognize
38:06
a nation, to recognize a false
38:08
nation with a false government that has no actual
38:10
public support, in my opinion, would be ten times
38:13
worse. Like, if we're going to do this, then
38:15
we actually have to do it, and it's obviously going
38:17
to have to include Gaza as well, and we
38:19
will have to ensure actual security
38:21
conditions and some sort of public expression.
38:24
Otherwise this entire.
38:25
Thing is completely meaningless and it will
38:27
fall apart and we will have somewhat one
38:29
Guido situation. Yeah, in Venezuela,
38:32
with nonsense that the United Nations.
38:35
Always puts the burden and the problems
38:37
on the Palestinian side when you have
38:39
BB out there on the regular like,
38:41
I will make sure that we thwart
38:44
ever having a two state solution that
38:46
somehow never gets mentioned in any
38:49
of this as the obstacles
38:51
to peace in the situation. We
38:53
got some more news on the State
38:55
Department. Let's put this up on the screen. The US is going
38:58
to sanction one specific IDF
39:00
unit for human rights violations
39:03
in the West Bank. This is pursuant
39:05
to that we covered this last week, this pro public
39:08
report that Tony Blincoln had been
39:10
sitting with a report from the
39:12
State Department panel that
39:15
is meant to look into human rights abuses that
39:17
found a number of IDF
39:19
units and Israeli police units that
39:22
had engaged in horrific human
39:24
rights violations torture, rape, other
39:27
abuses. And so I guess, under
39:29
pressure, they've decided to do this
39:31
sort of really truly symbolic sanctioning
39:33
of this one unit. I'll read this to you. It says US Secretary
39:36
of State Tony Blincoln expected to within
39:38
days announce sanctions against the IDF's
39:40
Netsa Yehuda battalion for
39:43
human rights violations in the occupied West Bank.
39:45
Why it matters, it would be the first time the US imposed
39:47
sanctions on Israeli military unit. They
39:49
will ban the battalion's members from receiving any
39:51
kind of US military assistance or training.
39:54
And this particular battalion, they say, was formed
39:56
as a special unit for ultra orthodox soldiers.
39:59
All of its members are men, and
40:01
it's kind of known for having a lot of
40:03
radicals involved. You've had a lot of
40:05
the quote unquote hilltop youth. These
40:07
are these young, radical, right wing, often
40:10
violent settlers who weren't accepted
40:12
into any other combat unit in the IDF.
40:15
They're in this battalion. One specific
40:17
incident that's been documented was the death of
40:19
an eighty year old Palestinian American
40:21
Omar Asad, in January twenty
40:23
twenty two. He was arrested by
40:25
Netsa Yehudah soldiers at a checkpoint
40:28
in his village in the West Bank late at night. He refused
40:30
to be checked, so soldiers handcuffed
40:32
and gagged him, an eighty year old, and
40:35
left him on the ground in the cold, and predictably
40:38
he died. So, you
40:40
know, my read is that these sanctions
40:43
are totally meaningless. It's similar to the you
40:45
know four Israeli settlers who were sanctioned
40:47
previously by the Biden Administration's attempt
40:49
to sort of like pretend like they're serious about
40:52
violence against Palestinians. But what kind
40:54
of checks are in places? We're shipping billions of dollars
40:56
to Israel to make sure this battalion
40:58
doesn't benefit from any of it. Nevertheless,
41:01
there's an all of government freak out
41:03
on the Israeli side about this tiniest
41:06
of sanctions for documented human rights
41:08
abuses. Let's put this up on the screen from Phoebe,
41:11
he says, And this is the Google
41:13
Translate version, by the way, So if there's
41:15
any like slate mistranslations, that's why
41:17
sanctions must not be imposed
41:20
on the IDF. In recent weeks, I've been working
41:22
against the imposition of sanctions on Israeli citizens,
41:24
including in my conversations with senior American government
41:26
officials. At a time when our soldiers
41:28
are fighting the monsters of terror,
41:31
the intention to impose a sanction on a unit
41:33
in the IDF is the height of absurdity and
41:35
a moral low. The government, headed
41:37
by me will act by all means
41:39
against these moves. There was
41:41
also a statement from Benny Gantz. Lest
41:44
you think that they're not on the same page on many
41:46
things, they mostly are. So what
41:48
do you make of all that? Sager?
41:49
Yeah, I mean I just think the entire thing is ridiculous
41:51
because we're trying to single out some unit
41:53
in the IDF based on or in
41:56
the West Bank, which is right, this is all.
41:57
The other problem is that we try and split apart.
42:00
GE's what I was talking about West Bank from Gaza
42:02
as if it's not the same military that's involved in all
42:04
this, and it's not all part of the same policy,
42:06
So what is the question, what are we going to do?
42:08
Do we actually And at the same
42:10
time, I would almost rather not
42:12
do something like this because then it just heightens
42:15
the contradiction of sending billions
42:17
of dollars to the IDEF and through the Israeli military.
42:19
If they're going to only continue to fund
42:22
said IDF unit and there's no enforcement
42:24
mechanism, then what is the point of
42:26
this entire thing?
42:27
It just views it. It makes it even more impotent
42:30
than previously.
42:31
If you give somebody money when you acknowledge that they're
42:33
a criminal, it's almost worse than just lying
42:35
to everybody.
42:36
Well, yeah, it's a perfect
42:38
way to pretend like
42:40
the problem is in a whole of government
42:43
policy, that it's a few
42:45
bad apples, it's a few violent settlers,
42:48
it's this one particular
42:50
battalion that has a lot of hilltop use, rather
42:53
than I mean, we saw the first of all,
42:55
you see the utter annihilation in Gaza. You
42:57
see the Where's Daddy software program
43:00
looking to target families, children,
43:03
women, waiting for militants to go
43:05
home before you target
43:07
them. We see the AI algorithmic
43:10
generation. Overall, we see
43:12
the announcement of a complete siege,
43:15
starving a population of millions,
43:17
in some cases to death. Okay,
43:20
And then we pretend like, oh, it's these few bad
43:22
apples and we're very concerned about it, and we're going to sanction
43:24
them. So it serves the Biden administration's
43:27
interest. Frankly, I think it also serves Bebe's
43:29
interests. I just we didn't just didn't make it in the poll because
43:31
there's so much other stuff to cover. But apparently
43:34
Bibe's political standing in Israel in
43:36
the context of post October seventh was number
43:38
was stronger. Poll numbers are coming up. You
43:41
know, he's basically neck and neck
43:43
now with his primary opponent as previously he
43:45
was losing in a landslide, and I think
43:47
that these little, you know, pretend
43:50
fights between him, just
43:52
theatrical fights between him and Biden,
43:54
where he gets to stand tough and
43:56
effectively humiliate Joe Biden by the
43:58
way, over and over and over again. I
44:01
think those have served his domestic political
44:03
standing. So congratulations everyone, Your little
44:05
Kaboki theater here is working out perfectly for the nt
44:07
YAHOO government.
44:08
I think that bb and Zelenski are similar.
44:10
Their only authority to
44:12
the eyes of the public is their ability to builk
44:14
the United States for billions. So as long
44:17
as they are able to continue
44:19
to have the US security establishment
44:21
at fund your war, then your position
44:24
as like the grifter in charge is
44:27
cemented. Now, if he genuinely
44:29
was failing in that regard, then yeah,
44:31
you know, people would be able to come against him. But he's
44:34
able very masterfully to play against
44:36
America and also keep the handout and take
44:38
the dollars.
44:39
That's a very difficult balancing.
44:40
Act, one which he is on tape admitting
44:42
he's very good at saying what America
44:44
is very easy I know to who.
44:46
Can deny it?
44:47
He says it?
44:47
Who can deny it? Yeah? No,
44:49
that's right.
44:50
He can.
44:51
On the one hand, you know, act all outraged
44:53
on Twitter about this like totally meaningless
44:56
sanction reportedly being issued by
44:58
the State Department on the They're going to do whatever
45:00
the hell he wants, bomb American
45:03
and American aid worker, bomb
45:06
is bomb Iran when we begged
45:09
him reportedly not to hospitals.
45:12
Whatever. He can do whatever he wants,
45:14
and there's still you know, a
45:16
whole of government effort here to make sure that he
45:19
gets his billions in whatever he wants moving
45:21
forward. Yes, so yeah, he's
45:24
playing his hand masterfully. And
45:27
the Biden policy bear
45:29
of bear hugging BBNT,
45:31
Yahoo has been such an object
45:34
failure it is hard to wrap your head
45:36
around on every level. Every
45:39
time they set out like well, we don't want Israel to
45:41
do this, Israel does it, and then there's
45:43
no accountability and American
45:45
lives are put more at risk and more Gazan's
45:48
house, that means of Gaza are completely slaughtered.
45:51
So just an utter and complete
45:53
failure from the Biden administration.
45:56
It all just plays right into Bibi's
45:58
hands. There was an interesting report
46:00
though that I wanted to share with you guys.
46:02
Make of it what you will, So put this up on the screen.
46:05
This is a report from Times of Israel
46:08
that the Prime Minister's Office PMO
46:11
had held an emergency debate
46:14
amid fears that the ICC that's
46:16
the International Criminal Court at the Hague, could
46:18
issue arrest warrants for the
46:20
Prime Minister and others over
46:22
alleged crimes in Gaza. This is
46:24
based on a report on Israeli
46:27
Channel twelve, so it says they're increasingly
46:29
worried about this. Three
46:31
ministers and several government legal experts
46:33
heard this emergency discussion on how they
46:35
could potentially fend off the
46:38
feared imminent issuing of such arrest
46:40
warrants. They are
46:42
pointing to some of the countries that have been very
46:44
critical of Israeli atrocities
46:47
in Gaza's strip are sort of leading the push
46:49
here. Jerusalem is also try
46:51
to apply pressure, whatever diplomatic pressure
46:53
they can, you know, under the radar, to
46:55
try to avoid this eventuality.
46:58
And not only did they and this was no worthy
47:00
to meet again, according to this Israeli TV
47:02
report, Make of it what you will. Apparently,
47:05
he also raised this concern in
47:07
his meetings last week with Britain's
47:09
Foreign Secretary David Cameron in Germany's
47:11
foreign minister and Aleeda bare
47:14
Baka. Is that how you say that we'll go let's go
47:16
with it. Yeah, we'll go with that. So it
47:18
was a significant enough concern reportedly
47:21
that he's raising it with them. Now what does this mean.
47:23
Listen, It's not like the ICC can come to Israel
47:25
and arrest him, throw them and you know
47:28
it and being a dock in the Hague. But
47:31
you know, it's another step on the global
47:33
parias status. It
47:36
could be very influential in terms
47:38
of global opinion, makes
47:40
them more difficult for you know, the US enablers
47:43
to support the things that he's doing. And
47:45
also it really constrains your freedom because
47:47
now you can't go to one of the countries in the
47:49
world where they, you know, do
47:51
support the ICC actions because
47:53
you could actually get arrested if you set foot in
47:55
one of those countries.
47:56
Yeah, I mean no, that's the actually the biggest I mean, there's
47:59
there's a couple of ways, and look at this is one is
48:01
like, do I think he's actually gonna get arrested.
48:02
No, but does it at least put
48:04
pressure on the government. Yes.
48:07
The other option is that we will just see the ICC,
48:09
you know, signatory fall apart because you would
48:11
travel to a party nation and they won't comply
48:14
with it.
48:14
We'll see, you know exactly how that all
48:16
plays out.
48:17
But regardless, again, this is just a
48:19
core theme of like all of our discussion, is
48:21
that in the interim, things are going in
48:23
Israel's way, but in the long term,
48:25
twenty thirty years from now, there certainly
48:28
are not.
48:28
And this is another example. Don't
48:30
even take my word for it.
48:32
You've all knowah Harari, who I've got some issues
48:34
with, but he wrote the famous book Sapiens.
48:36
He's the Israeli not really a scientist.
48:38
Whatever we can it's a separate conversation. He
48:41
wrote an excellent piece. I recommend everybody
48:43
go and read in Heartz where he makes this exact
48:45
same point, because he himself is kind of a
48:47
chief arch globalist.
48:48
And he's like, we have a real problem.
48:50
We have delegitimized ourselves in the eyes of the
48:52
entire world, and for decades now we will
48:54
have problems both diplomatically for our citizens
48:57
as they continue and think about living abroad.
48:59
And you know, any idea of legitimacy
49:02
in the eyes of the world has significantly gone
49:04
down.
49:04
And that's just not something that you really move
49:06
away from.
49:07
And I think this is just like tip of the iceberg on that
49:09
broader problem. Regardless of whether it's enforcement
49:11
or not, it almost doesn't matter, you know, for the future
49:14
of what future treat future free trade agreements
49:16
look like, reciprocal tourism, willingness
49:18
to do business, willingness to receive a
49:20
prime minister, and popularly those things
49:22
honestly matter even more to a certain extent
49:25
for the future of Israel and for the nation.
49:27
Look at the way young generations of America.
49:29
Yes, that's right, I've changed everything.
49:30
Yeah, it's going to it's not going
49:32
back, right, Millennials,
49:34
gen z, they're not going to view this the same
49:37
way that boomers and silent gen did.
49:39
It's done. I mean that's we're covering the
49:41
freak out over these Columbia protests and what the hell's
49:43
going on there. The real story on those protests
49:45
is just how overwhelming the sentiment
49:48
among young people is against arming
49:50
Israel, against you know, their their view and
49:52
mind. And the ICJ finds
49:54
it plausible that they're committing genocide with
49:57
our tax dollars, by the way, helping
49:59
to fund the weapons that are, you
50:01
know, two thousand pound bombs being dropped on refugee
50:04
camps, etc. People
50:06
don't forget this is a formative political
50:08
experience for really millions
50:10
of young Americans. So in terms
50:13
of future generations, I don't think there's
50:15
any put in that toothpaste back in the tube. But unfortunately
50:18
that takes a long time to come to fruition.
50:20
In the meantime, you can see from the numbers
50:23
in the house how slowly things actually change.
50:28
At the same time, we really have our eyes on Rafa,
50:32
the threatened ground invasion there. It
50:34
seems like there are some indications this may
50:36
be more imminent, including a strike
50:39
multiple strikes there. Let's put this up on the screen.
50:42
That happened just a day or so ago. Israeli
50:44
strikes on southern Gaza city of Rafa killed
50:46
twenty two, mostly children. As they
50:48
add US advances AID package. I think
50:50
that's noteworthy that they include that in the
50:53
headline and important they include that in the headline.
50:55
So out of these twenty two people
50:57
who were killed by the IDF in
51:00
Rava, eighteen children,
51:03
three women, one man.
51:06
Eighteen children, three women and one
51:09
man. One of the women who
51:11
was killed was pregnant.
51:14
She was killed. They were able to open
51:18
her up and save the baby,
51:20
thank god, who is now orphaned
51:22
at birth. Horrifying
51:25
situation. And Bibi
51:28
has been sort of promising that
51:30
this Rapha invasion is imminent. He said,
51:32
cryptically, quote in the coming days, we will
51:34
increase the political and military pressure on Hamas
51:37
because this is the only way to bring back our hostages
51:39
and a chief victory. Of course, the only way they've actually
51:41
brought back hostages was through ceasefire agreement.
51:44
But never you mind that. He goes on to say
51:46
we will land more and painful blows
51:48
on Hamas soon, but
51:50
did not give further details about what
51:53
that meant. And that's noteworthy, of course, saw because
51:56
he's been saying, oh, in order to finish the job
51:58
with Hamas, they're all down in Rafa now, so we
52:01
have to we have to do this ground invasion
52:03
of raf Warri of over a million Palestinian sheltering
52:05
right now, including obviously many women
52:08
and children, because that's where Hamas
52:10
is. So when he says we will land more
52:12
and painful blows on Hamas soon, it seems
52:14
to be a reference to an imminent ground invasion
52:17
in Rafa.
52:17
It's very possible, and something that you brought
52:19
up, but I want to spend a lot of time on here
52:22
is this corrupt bargain being reported
52:24
by the Israeli press. Let's go and put this up there on
52:26
the screen, please, where the Times
52:28
of Israel reports very out
52:30
in the open that the US has agreed to
52:33
Israel's plan for Rafa in return
52:35
for not carrying out a large Iran
52:38
strike.
52:39
So what they basically have bargained
52:41
with US.
52:42
Is, hey, we won't have a huge
52:44
retalia historic retaliatory strike
52:46
on Iran which would draw you in if
52:48
you green light at least tacitly
52:51
our Israeli invasion of Rossa. Now, the way
52:53
that we know this is from Egyptian officials
52:55
who are telling news outlets to the quote
52:58
the US has accepted that plan for
53:00
an operation in southern Gaza in return
53:02
for not carrying out that larger strike.
53:04
Now, the reason why this is so important is
53:06
we are watching the weaponization
53:09
here again of the US political system
53:11
and it's rapid desire to go to war for
53:13
Israel, where they are like, hey, we
53:15
won't drag us into a broader war
53:18
over here if you let us do whatever
53:20
we want over here. And I don't think that
53:22
these air strikes are an accident,
53:24
and it actually very elegantly solves
53:27
a problem for beeB to be able to get
53:29
around that. But think again about
53:31
what the blackmail is is that what they
53:33
have on their side is always,
53:36
at any moment, at any time of our
53:38
choosing, we can glow blow up an embassy
53:40
wherever we want, ratchet things up
53:43
over here, which will require you to defend
53:45
us as long as we continue to get to
53:47
do whatever we want over here in Gaza.
53:49
And that belies the fact that whatever happens
53:51
here in Gaza has bleed on effects over
53:54
here, as we have already watched the resumption of
53:56
Iranian proxy strikes on US
53:58
military basis that have happened now after
54:00
that.
54:00
So again American troops.
54:01
Are the ones who pay the cost, as well as of course
54:04
Palestinian civilians.
54:05
Yeah, that's right. I mean, this was Palestinian
54:07
civilians being held hostage and being sacrificed
54:09
in the end to reportedly
54:12
keep Israel from doing a larger strike
54:14
on Iran. And again, according
54:17
to reports, the Biden people begged
54:19
bebe not to do any response to Iran. You
54:21
know, they were saying, listen, take the win. We shut down all
54:23
their stuff nothing really happened with regard
54:25
to their retaliatory attacks here,
54:27
so just take that win and let's move
54:29
on. So they weren't
54:32
able to succeed with that, they're
54:34
obviously not willing to use actual
54:36
leverage to change Israeli behavior,
54:39
So according to this report, they've
54:41
decided to sacrifice the Palestinians
54:43
in Rafa in spite of the fact that this has been
54:45
a long time. You know, Biden
54:48
even used at one point the red line
54:50
with regard to Rafa, but doesn't
54:53
seem to be a red line any longer. And
54:55
I don't think any of us should be surprised if we see this
54:58
attack move forward relatively swiftly.
55:01
Just to give you another sense of how
55:04
untenable the US position
55:06
here is and all of the Biden administration's
55:09
supposed concerns for human rights.
55:11
Pretty remarkable exchange here where
55:14
a State Department spokesperson really
55:16
doesn't want to answer a question about
55:19
whether the Geneva Conventions apply
55:21
to Israel, does his darnedest
55:24
to try to avoid giving a direct
55:26
answer to what should be a very
55:28
simple question that he was asked with seamlessness.
55:31
You're a med monitor. Human Rights monitor
55:33
reports that Israel
55:36
is using drones to
55:39
lure residents and
55:41
then shoot them. They explain
55:44
the sounds of women screaming in babies
55:46
crying were heard late at night on both Sunday
55:48
and Monday. When some of the residents went out
55:51
to investigate and tried to help,
55:53
they were shot at by Israeli
55:55
quadruple quad
55:58
copter drones. The sounds that they heard were
56:00
in fact recordings played by
56:02
the Israeli drones with the intent
56:04
of forcing the camp residents out into the
56:06
streets where they could be easily targeted
56:08
by snipers.
56:11
I've not seen that report, Sam, so I'm
56:13
not gonna comment on it, but broadly
56:16
not relating to this particular circumstance at
56:19
all, because again I haven't seen the report
56:21
and I'm not sure if it's accurate or
56:23
verifiable. At every conversation
56:25
that we have with our partners in Israel, we continue
56:28
to stress the moral and strategic comparative that
56:30
they have to work
56:32
on deconfliction mechanisms and to ensure
56:35
that civilian harm is
56:37
minimized in every which way possible, and
56:39
we'll continue to stress that every way
56:41
we can.
56:41
Will you look at this report, I'm.
56:44
Sure we'll look at this report, Sam, I don't have any
56:46
comment for it on it?
56:47
Right now?
56:47
Do you recognize the Geneva Conventions
56:49
as apply.
56:50
I've answer your questions.
56:51
Now you have evaded it and
56:54
your colleague deceitfully
56:58
responded to it. Could go to Geneva
57:01
Conventions. It's a simple question. Do
57:03
you recognize the Geneva Conventions of applying
57:05
to Gaza?
57:06
When you interrupt me, that's not it's
57:08
not no matter of you. I'm not going to simple
57:10
take additional questions a simple
57:12
question.
57:13
Show ahead.
57:13
You got two questions.
57:14
I totally contra No, I didn't get to.
57:16
You, did you?
57:17
You?
57:17
You asked a question about your report and you asked
57:19
to follow up.
57:20
Please go ahead, and you're refusing
57:22
to answer it.
57:23
Go ahead to do the Geneva Conventions apply
57:25
to Gaza or not everywhere
57:27
on the planet except for the Palestinians.
57:29
Isn't that right? Me?
57:31
I continue to stress everywhere
57:33
and everywhere that international
57:35
and humanitarian law needs to be abided
57:37
by and respected going.
57:38
The Geneva Conventions apply.
57:40
You are now interrupting your colleague.
57:42
Go ahead.
57:42
I'm interrupting you. I'm not interrupting you.
57:44
I'm insisting on an answer to a critical
57:46
question.
57:47
Go ahead doesn't want to answer the question. It's
57:49
very very testy there in
57:52
reply. And yeah, and also with regard
57:54
to the original report, which is disgusting if you
57:56
think about it, like playing sounds of crying
57:58
babies and and when people rush
58:01
out to try to help this, you
58:03
know what they think is a struggling child or infant.
58:05
Then you know, using that to lure them out
58:07
and kill them is like, that's horrifying.
58:11
The last thing we wanted to share with you is that
58:13
some of the tenor of the discourse in
58:16
our in the Gray, our
58:18
great Israeli allies, the way that the
58:20
their assault on Gaza is being discussed.
58:22
I don't know if you guys saw this. There was a picture of Palestinians
58:25
on the beach in Gaza that created
58:27
this whole freak out on
58:30
the Israeli right. There was a discussion
58:32
about this on Israeli television
58:34
and quite a reaction to it. Let's
58:37
take a look at this, and I'll read over the subtitles
58:39
here since this is in Hebrew, gut and put
58:41
it up on the screen, and I say, these people there deserve
58:43
death, a hard death and agonizing death,
58:45
and instead we see them enjoying on the beach, having
58:48
fun. He goes on these
58:50
people. There are no innocent people there in
58:52
the gaza strip none. They voted for hamas,
58:55
they want Hamas, they celebrated, They hand it out
58:57
candies, some of them spat at the body, some
58:59
of them took selfies with our abductees. There are
59:01
no innocence there. And the fact they're now enjoying
59:03
the beach instead of starving, instead of being jerked
59:05
around, instead of
59:07
being severely tormented, instead
59:10
of hiding from shelling, they are enjoying
59:12
the beach. We should have seen a lot more
59:14
revenge, a lot more rivers
59:16
of Gossen's blood. That
59:19
is the commentary on Israeli
59:21
television, right, but please, let's let's talk more
59:23
about a student protester. What a nineteen
59:26
year old might have or might not have said
59:28
at a college protest.
59:29
Yeah.
59:29
At the same time, Trump's trial kicks off today,
59:31
and there were some very dramatic occurrings.
59:35
I guess that happened on Friday when a man
59:37
actually self immolated outside
59:39
of the courthouse.
59:41
It was actually caught live.
59:42
We're not going to show you images of the self immolation
59:44
itself, but there are were some reporters on the scene,
59:47
and this is what it was described like by them.
59:49
Let's take a listen.
59:50
What do you say. We also are seeing active
59:52
shooter and active shooters in the park outside
59:55
of the court. We have seen an arm that has
59:57
been visible that has been engulfed in total
59:59
flames.
1:00:00
There is chaos that is happening.
1:00:01
People are wondering right now if people are
1:00:04
in danger.
1:00:04
I'm looking across the court.
1:00:06
Across the courtyard there is a man racing
1:00:08
to his aid. There's codes coming off to try
1:00:10
to put out the fire. We have members
1:00:12
of security details. NYPD is
1:00:14
rushing to the scene. They are trying to come
1:00:16
now. Officers are on the scene. A fire
1:00:19
extinguisher is right now present being put
1:00:21
on this man to try to put out. People
1:00:23
are climbing over barricade to try to
1:00:25
separate the public to put out the flame
1:00:27
on this man.
1:00:28
He had let himself out in fire.
1:00:29
That was the initial reaction. Obviously it was not an
1:00:32
active shooter. It was a protester.
1:00:35
Appears he's put out a manifesto,
1:00:38
et cetera. It appears to be a sad
1:00:40
and horrible case of mental illness. And
1:00:43
it's often people you know schizophrenia
1:00:46
and others attracted to certain scenarios
1:00:48
like this, he wanted to start quote unquote a
1:00:50
revolution and decided to self emilate
1:00:52
himself outside of the trial. But anything you want
1:00:54
to say on that, Crystal before we move.
1:00:55
On, Yeah, I mean, I just he
1:00:58
did ultimately succumb to
1:01:00
his wounds from self emilation. That reporting
1:01:03
on him is that he had
1:01:06
been prone to some sort of fringe
1:01:08
or conspiratorial beliefs, and then
1:01:10
his mother passed, and according to the people who
1:01:12
are around him, that was really sort of a breaking point.
1:01:15
So there was, you know, immediate
1:01:17
speculation always this about he's
1:01:20
protesting Trump's you know,
1:01:22
legal issues or whatever. It appears
1:01:24
to have had nothing to do with
1:01:27
Trump, Peter Thiel, Crypto,
1:01:29
Jeffrey Epstein, a lot of things were mentioned
1:01:32
in the sub stack, but Trump was not central
1:01:34
to it. So it appears to have been an incredibly
1:01:37
tragic instance of mental
1:01:39
illness.
1:01:39
Yes, it's tragic, trying to get attention, et cetera.
1:01:42
But of course that does not obscure
1:01:44
the fact that there is that trial that is happening today
1:01:46
significant and let's actually go through some
1:01:49
of it. We now, the entire jury has been
1:01:51
seated for the trial. Let's go and put this up there
1:01:53
on the screen. New York Times says, will a
1:01:55
mountain of evidence be enough to convict Trump?
1:01:57
We're going to have the opening statements today in
1:01:59
the people of the State of New York versus Donald
1:02:02
J. Trump, and the case quote seems strong,
1:02:04
but a conviction is far
1:02:06
from assured. Some of the witnesses are
1:02:08
actually very important here. One of them is
1:02:10
David Pecker, who some of you might remember from
1:02:13
the Stormy Daniels days. David Pecker
1:02:15
was the quote tabloid publisher who
1:02:17
had buried the damaging stories about Trump,
1:02:20
the so called pay for play scheme
1:02:22
where catch and kill, where they would buy
1:02:25
incriminating stories on behalf of
1:02:27
Trump and then keep them in the vault under
1:02:29
an NBA before then reporting
1:02:31
it. Other witnesses in the case will include
1:02:34
Hope Hicks, the spokesperson who
1:02:36
tried to spin around this, a witness again
1:02:38
for the prosecution, and then of course
1:02:41
Michael Cohen, who has already pled guilty
1:02:43
and actually served time in prison specifically
1:02:46
around this charge, but on the federal charge
1:02:48
which Trump was never indicted for. So
1:02:50
three of those witnesses very likely to back
1:02:53
up the state's case in
1:02:55
terms of will it be enough to convict
1:02:57
him. Conviction is going to go on
1:03:00
whether they agree with this novel interpretation
1:03:02
of the case and in terms of the law, in
1:03:05
terms of statute of limitations, but
1:03:07
also in terms of how
1:03:09
they view the central
1:03:12
charge around whether it's campaign finance
1:03:14
fraud or whether it was a personal
1:03:16
one or not. And this is, of course, Crystal
1:03:18
been the very beginning from the beginning around
1:03:20
this case. Why eventually
1:03:22
the FEDS decided not to charge Trump,
1:03:25
which said charge around this
1:03:27
because they thought they could plausibly not
1:03:30
argue, at least in a jury to
1:03:32
convict Trump on the campaign finance
1:03:34
fees in particular, which amounts to accounting
1:03:36
fraud in terms of why the state is involved.
1:03:38
Yeah, So just as a reminder, there won't be
1:03:40
cameras in the courtroom, so this all be you know,
1:03:43
after the day's events are concluded, we'll kind
1:03:45
of get a synopsis of whatever was said,
1:03:47
who testified, what happened, what was that in the opening
1:03:49
arguments, etc. It
1:03:52
is noteworthy that you got David Pecker
1:03:54
and Hope Hicks who are testifying,
1:03:56
so they won't have to wholly rely on the testimony
1:03:59
of Michael Cohen, who was you know, convicted
1:04:01
liars. He is not the most reliable
1:04:03
witness, and that is one of the things that the
1:04:06
Trump team are certainly going to you
1:04:09
know, pursue and talk about. Is there's
1:04:11
this one key moment where
1:04:14
Cohen claims that he
1:04:16
and Trump were in dialogue in the White House
1:04:18
and Trump was talking about these payments.
1:04:20
Because this is one of the things that they'll try to claim
1:04:22
is like basically he had no idea that any of this
1:04:24
was going on. So it'll be interesting
1:04:27
not only to see how that you know, that
1:04:29
direct like he said, he said, peace plays now,
1:04:32
but what additional information picks
1:04:35
who was you know, for those of you who don't
1:04:37
recall, who was omnipresent, who was in
1:04:39
a lot of key meetings, who had a lot of time
1:04:42
with Trump and also a long history with him even pre
1:04:44
dating you know, her time
1:04:46
in the White House. And David Packard
1:04:48
now Packer who was the tabloid
1:04:51
publisher National Choir and also had a
1:04:53
long history with Trump. He is able
1:04:55
to testify not just to this
1:04:57
Stormy Daniel's hush money situation,
1:05:00
but to a couple other stories
1:05:03
that he helped Trump to quote
1:05:05
unquote catch and kill, so the idea
1:05:08
being there was another this playboy model
1:05:10
Susan McDougall, who claims she had an affair with Trump.
1:05:12
He purchased her story and then didn't run
1:05:15
it. The other one was this doorman
1:05:17
at the Trump Tower building who claimed this
1:05:20
is apparently not true, but who had claimed that Trump
1:05:22
had a mistress and had the mistress
1:05:24
that had an abortion. Pecker had also
1:05:27
purchased and buried that story
1:05:29
as well. Now with Doormy Daniels, he
1:05:32
didn't do that because she was asking for too much
1:05:34
money. But then he works this is
1:05:36
all the allegations right, and the Trump's team,
1:05:38
they'll have their say. But he works with Michael
1:05:40
Cohen to figure out this workaround to
1:05:42
get this story hushed up, even
1:05:45
though the price was too steep for him
1:05:47
to be able to do with the national enquir So that's
1:05:49
sort of like the heart of this, you
1:05:51
know. On the one hand, in terms of the jury, it's
1:05:54
Manhattan. Not a lot of Trump love in Manhattan.
1:05:56
On the other hand, you had a couple of these jurors who
1:05:58
were ultimately selected, who said at least a few
1:06:00
sort of like more or less favorable
1:06:02
things about Trump, who weren't just out and out Trump Peters,
1:06:05
and you know he only
1:06:07
has to get one person one
1:06:10
right on his side to prevail
1:06:12
here in what would be a very very
1:06:14
significant win. So those are kind
1:06:17
of the contoences.
1:06:17
In the case. I can say, or can you imagine
1:06:20
if it's a hung jury or if you win.
1:06:21
I think that's I think that's very possible.
1:06:23
I think too.
1:06:24
But the media freak
1:06:26
out on that is going to be unbelievable.
1:06:29
Let's go and put this up there on the screen. Because there
1:06:31
was some discussion previously about the jurors. Two
1:06:34
jurors were actually dismissed in a
1:06:36
trial before they eventually all
1:06:38
twelve were seated. It appears
1:06:40
that some of the jurors were
1:06:43
dismissed prospective jurors because of critical
1:06:45
social media posts about Trump. But
1:06:48
the eighteen people who have selected have decided
1:06:50
and have said that they will decide the case
1:06:52
based quote, purely.
1:06:53
On the facts.
1:06:55
Some of them two of them actually expressed
1:06:57
positive feelings about the former press
1:07:00
that are on the jury. Two of those
1:07:02
who were dismissed one There was a
1:07:04
lot of attention around this which we previously had
1:07:07
where a juror with profile
1:07:09
was described by Fox News and by
1:07:11
other media outlets, and she was approached
1:07:13
and she was like, people were asking whether
1:07:16
it was her who was on the jury, and she asked
1:07:18
to be taken off. And other jurors as well
1:07:20
had expressed some feelings around that. It was
1:07:22
just funny, though, Crystal, because Fox and
1:07:25
Jesse Waters in particular was getting to blame.
1:07:27
But if you went and you looked like you could basically
1:07:29
if you know these people, you could guess it. Because
1:07:32
ABC, the New York Times and others had written
1:07:34
similar write ups.
1:07:35
Of all of the jurors who were involved.
1:07:37
I will say I don't know how I feel about that in terms
1:07:39
of recording another because I'm like, Okay, well if
1:07:41
the entire if we're not going to release their names.
1:07:44
But just like for me, it's like, well, an Indian guy who
1:07:46
wears glasses, who those are? YouTube? Oh,
1:07:48
I wonder who it is? Former White House correspondent.
1:07:51
You know, It's it's like either keep it secret
1:07:53
or don't, but don't try and play this weird
1:07:55
mid gram middle ground where we are right now.
1:07:57
That's true. Yeah, I think you could have lease
1:08:00
like they had in there what their news preferences
1:08:03
were, which I thought was interesting the comments
1:08:05
they made about Trump and how they felt
1:08:07
about him. That was interesting. But yeah,
1:08:09
you probably didn't need like the they're a
1:08:11
nurse, How is that really? I don't blame maybe
1:08:13
even like the toplight like okay it's
1:08:16
a female, fine, but drilling
1:08:19
down into a lot of those details.
1:08:20
I will say this, I don't blame the media.
1:08:22
I think that if the law is going to
1:08:24
allow all of this to be published,
1:08:26
then fine.
1:08:27
I don't actually blame them at all.
1:08:29
At the end of the day, it's up to the court to keep
1:08:31
whatever it's people safe or not. But
1:08:34
if the court is going to have rules like
1:08:36
secrecy and all that, then they should at least write them
1:08:38
in a way that makes sense. I will never blame
1:08:40
reporters or journalists from putting out fullsome
1:08:42
amount of information because I figure that I think
1:08:45
that's what they should do.
1:08:45
I will say, in the instance of Jesse Waters
1:08:48
and there was a whole right wing conspiracy
1:08:50
that these were like intentional, like lib
1:08:52
activists were sneaking onto the
1:08:55
jury, which I think there is no
1:08:57
evidence to support that in particular,
1:08:59
but I I feel
1:09:01
bad for these jurors, like whether they're
1:09:04
public now or not, Like
1:09:06
it's very likely to come out who
1:09:09
these individuals are. They're going to
1:09:11
be the center of a firestorm the likes of which
1:09:13
they probably can't even imagine. That few
1:09:15
people really could imagine. It's
1:09:17
going to be an absolute circus. And yeah,
1:09:20
we'll see how, we'll see how it all unfolds.
1:09:22
Uh. With one more piece that I'll let you coo
1:09:24
up. But I just do want to say on the political note,
1:09:26
Yeah, I know we're so used to thinking that nothing matters for Trump.
1:09:29
These are old allocations. As you say, it's all
1:09:31
baked in, and I think those are all like totally
1:09:33
fair and legitimate points. But you
1:09:36
do see his poll numbers right now slipping
1:09:38
a bit. You see Biden now and a lot of national
1:09:41
averages has claimed like a one point
1:09:43
leads. Approval ratings stick up
1:09:45
a little tiny bit. How people are
1:09:48
saying they feel about him on the issues versus
1:09:50
Trump, He's doing a little bit better.
1:09:52
And I do think part of what is dragging Trump
1:09:55
down right now is just him being in the media
1:09:57
now and it being in the context of legal
1:09:59
tr such as this case.
1:10:02
And we also should remember when the first details
1:10:04
of this emerged, like people really
1:10:07
found it pretty gross even
1:10:09
ones who said it may not be illegal,
1:10:11
but it's certainly wrong. So
1:10:14
having those details day after day
1:10:17
in the news, I think that there's
1:10:19
some cope on the Trump right of saying, like,
1:10:21
oh, this persecution is going to guarantee
1:10:23
him the elections. I think that's crazy. Like
1:10:26
bost of the country does not view these things
1:10:28
the way that the Republican base does. I don't think
1:10:30
there's any doubt that the criminal
1:10:33
prosecutions helped him in the context of a
1:10:35
Republican primary. In the context
1:10:37
of a general election, it's a whole different ballgame.
1:10:39
So maybe it's a net neutral,
1:10:42
maybe it doesn't change anything. But
1:10:44
I do not think that this is
1:10:46
going to be a net win for Donald Trump the
1:10:48
way that some of his supporters claim that it will be.
1:10:51
Yeah, I don't think it will be. Oh, I think it would
1:10:53
be a win for him amongst his base.
1:10:55
I think any prosecution on
1:10:57
terms of the public I think this one basically
1:11:00
out and I think the others could be a lot more
1:11:02
significant.
1:11:02
Nonetheless, you know.
1:11:03
Why it's most important is because the judglar is threatening
1:11:05
the throne in jail if he's not there, you know, in
1:11:08
person. But we'll see whether any of that
1:11:10
even materializes. We would be remiss if
1:11:12
we didn't play some liberal fan
1:11:14
fiction which has been making the rounds
1:11:17
about what is it diaper don?
1:11:19
Is that the conspiracy right?
1:11:21
That's what they're claiming, so me might
1:11:23
as touch, which was that it's that liberal
1:11:25
organization that put out all those clips of Joe
1:11:28
Rogan. They have reporters, sources,
1:11:30
according to them, who are inside the courtroom
1:11:33
who claim that Trump's flatulence
1:11:35
is out of control inside
1:11:38
the court according to their well
1:11:40
placed individuals.
1:11:41
Let's take a listen, and I'm hearing from credible
1:11:44
sources who know what's
1:11:46
going on in the courtroom. And what
1:11:48
I'm hearing is is that take
1:11:51
it for what it's worth, but that Donald Trump
1:11:54
is actually farting in the courtroom, and that it's
1:11:56
very stinky around him, it's future
1:11:58
and odor in the courtroom, and that Trump's
1:12:01
lawyers are
1:12:03
like repulsed by the scent and the
1:12:05
smell. And I'm not I'm not just saying
1:12:07
that to be like, oh funny, funny. I'm
1:12:09
actually, you know, we have good sources
1:12:11
there and I'm hearing it from
1:12:14
actual credible people that as
1:12:16
he's kind of falling asleep, he
1:12:18
is actually passing gas and
1:12:21
that his lawyers are really struggling
1:12:24
with the smell.
1:12:25
His lawyers are really struggling with
1:12:28
the smell he's got. These are
1:12:30
credible, credible reports.
1:12:32
I love the sources personally.
1:12:34
Yeah, so this is the
1:12:36
This is also and look we're not chair
1:12:38
picking that clip when I saw
1:12:41
had somewhere around nine million views
1:12:43
on Twitter and had been retweeted some eleven
1:12:45
to twelve thousand times, and of course
1:12:48
like made the rounds across what does
1:12:50
these like occupy Republicans or
1:12:52
you know, all these things like Facebook
1:12:54
boomer pages. So the boomers are
1:12:57
eating this one up. They are really enjoying
1:12:59
the idea of flat or diaper god.
1:13:01
Yeah, so I support this resistance lib
1:13:03
conspiracy personally.
1:13:04
I mean, it is relatively harmless. It
1:13:07
is amusing, I'll tell you that.
1:13:08
But yeah, this is what is capturing the minds, and
1:13:10
there will only be even more of this type of fan
1:13:12
fiction that make the rounds some more that
1:13:14
he finds.
1:13:15
We don't know, it's not true.
1:13:16
That's true, it's not true. It's
1:13:18
got in credible.
1:13:19
Sources, and we might just that.
1:13:25
Let's turn to some slightly more significant news
1:13:27
here. We had a huge victory
1:13:30
for the United Auto Workers specifically, but
1:13:32
the labor movement in general. Coming out
1:13:34
of this Volkswagon plant in Tennessee. So
1:13:36
this was the third time that
1:13:39
workers at this plant had attempted to unionize,
1:13:42
this time with the landscape
1:13:44
quite a bit different and quite a bit more
1:13:46
pro union, the workers prevailed
1:13:49
in historic fashion. Let's
1:13:51
start off by taking a listen to what some
1:13:53
of the workers had to say in their own words courtesy
1:13:56
of more Perfect Union.
1:14:08
Ye so now
1:14:12
I was made the count.
1:14:13
Are you out?
1:14:14
Yea yea yea yea
1:14:18
yes.
1:14:20
You know, many of the talking heads
1:14:22
and abundits have said to
1:14:24
me repeatedly before
1:14:26
we announced this campaign, you
1:14:29
can't win in the South, said,
1:14:35
Southern workers aren't ready for it. They
1:14:40
said, no, you auto Workers didn't.
1:14:42
Have it hit up.
1:14:45
But you all said watch that.
1:14:51
That last person you're listening to there Sean Fame,
1:14:53
the new president of the United
1:14:55
Auto Workers, who has made an aggressive
1:14:58
push non lean Ta Campbell stance,
1:15:00
going out on strike with regard to the Big
1:15:02
Three contract negotiations. But in the wake
1:15:04
of that victory, saying
1:15:07
listen, we're going to organize the South. We're going to
1:15:09
go after foreign automakers. This is basically
1:15:12
not happened successfully before in American
1:15:14
history, and so far it's looking
1:15:16
pretty good for them. Let's go and put the next piece up
1:15:18
on the screen. Was not even
1:15:21
close. Seventy
1:15:23
three percent voted yes,
1:15:25
twenty seven percent voted no. And
1:15:28
again keep in mind, this is a
1:15:30
plant that had voted twice before in twenty seventeen,
1:15:32
I believe, in twenty nineteen, and had
1:15:34
rejected unionization. Now,
1:15:37
with the wins that you saw,
1:15:40
you know, Starbucks, Teamsters,
1:15:42
UAW with a more
1:15:45
favorable climate amongst the public
1:15:47
in favor of unions, with a more favorable National
1:15:49
Labor Relations Board, this time the result
1:15:51
is totally different. And the next
1:15:54
up, they have a vote in mid May down
1:15:56
in Alabama at a Mercedes plant that
1:15:58
apparently they feel good about too. So
1:16:01
it's astonishing, Sager, not just that.
1:16:02
So not only do they have seventy three percent who cast
1:16:05
in favor, but they had eighty four percent voter
1:16:07
participations of the eighty four
1:16:09
percent of the forty three hundred eligible
1:16:11
workers in the plant actually participated.
1:16:14
This is the first vote in the
1:16:16
South, they're saying, the first time a Southern
1:16:18
auto plant outside the three Detroit automakers
1:16:21
has ever been organized by UAW.
1:16:23
This of course makes sense because we have Volkswagen,
1:16:26
BMW, Toyota and all this with a blanketed
1:16:28
across the American South with a lot of manufacturing
1:16:31
jobs and cars that have been
1:16:34
strategically placed there because of right to work laws.
1:16:36
Now, the question is about how that's going to
1:16:38
change from this point forward.
1:16:41
What they the Wall Street Journal even talks here
1:16:43
about that there's less
1:16:45
than four hundred thousand workers last year
1:16:47
who are inside UAW. That is seventy
1:16:49
five percent less than where they were
1:16:52
in the nineteen seventies. So for
1:16:54
them to have wins like this that grow
1:16:56
for the future actually sets up
1:16:58
that we're probably at the low point of
1:17:01
US union membership than ever
1:17:03
before and likely to go up. And
1:17:05
one of the reasons is fun at least to cover this
1:17:07
story. This might be the only rare piece of good news in
1:17:09
our entire show, So we absolutely wanted
1:17:12
to include it.
1:17:13
Yeah, no, no doubt about it. And yeah,
1:17:15
you can see the way the historic winds have changed,
1:17:18
Like there's a huge backlash now against
1:17:21
you know, we saw in COVID how these companies
1:17:23
were screw workers over, they were risking their
1:17:25
lives, they were making money hand over fist. They continue
1:17:27
to make record breaking profits and not pass
1:17:29
it on to consumers, let alone their workers
1:17:32
continue to you know, corporate price gouging, et
1:17:34
cetera. And people are through with it to
1:17:36
the extent that even on a state
1:17:39
like Tennessee where the politician, the political
1:17:41
class there was overwhelmingly hostile
1:17:43
to unions, you had a bunch of Southern governors
1:17:46
come out against this union drive. They've
1:17:48
been threatened with all, they're going to close the plant, et cetera, et cetera.
1:17:51
Those things just don't matter. And then
1:17:53
you know, you also just have this momentum.
1:17:56
Now that's so important because
1:17:58
previously when workers saw
1:18:01
just you know, concessionary contract, union
1:18:03
loss after union loss, and the
1:18:05
union based shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, it
1:18:08
wasn't very compelling to join. And you know, when
1:18:10
you see what the big three workers are getting there,
1:18:12
like I do this same job, why the hell shouldn't
1:18:15
I be getting the same type of pay,
1:18:17
the same type of benefits, and have that
1:18:19
similar type of life. So
1:18:22
we'll see what happens in Alabama next. And
1:18:24
speaking to that, you know, that momentum
1:18:26
and this sense of solidarity across not
1:18:28
just the auto industry, but a bunch of
1:18:31
different you know, variety
1:18:33
of industries, white collar, blue collar, service
1:18:35
sector, et cetera. One worker
1:18:38
said he was actually inspired by the writer's
1:18:40
strike, which we thought was kind of interesting. Let's take a listen to
1:18:42
that.
1:18:42
We like when all the labor strikes first,
1:18:44
you know, like the like the writers and stuff
1:18:46
like that.
1:18:47
Like I was a communications.
1:18:48
Major in college, and so seeing the
1:18:50
writers go on strike and standing after their
1:18:52
rights, that was I
1:18:54
was so excited about that. And then seeing there's
1:18:57
a part of us that when we be talking about this
1:19:00
just secretly in the back of our minders, like man, I
1:19:03
wonder if I wonder if auto
1:19:05
workers, if we're going to start seeing
1:19:07
something like that.
1:19:08
Here you can see the way these things have a
1:19:10
momentum of their own, and I think it's, you
1:19:12
know, the horses out of the bar. And I think you're right, Saga,
1:19:15
that we've seen now the low point in terms
1:19:17
of population union
1:19:19
density, and it really matters because
1:19:21
having workers have a little bit of say in their workplace,
1:19:24
it's good not only for those particular workers,
1:19:26
but it helps to set the standards across
1:19:29
industries, across the entire
1:19:31
liborpool. In the US. So very heartening
1:19:33
to see this. Congratulations to these workers who
1:19:36
risk a lot, by the way to organize
1:19:38
here and stuck their neck out and now they get to have a say
1:19:41
in their workplace.
1:19:41
Yeah, the big change, the big question is going to be obviously
1:19:44
the spread whether this will go to Toyota, apparently,
1:19:46
Honda, Hyundai, and other foreign car manufacturers
1:19:49
all across the American style. So this is
1:19:51
one But this obviously is like a signal
1:19:54
that goes out across that And but we also
1:19:56
shouldn't forget, as we covered previously, it's
1:19:58
not like the state governments aren't going to fight back. Oh
1:20:00
yeah, this Alabama, Tennessee,
1:20:02
all these other places. They're going to use everything in their
1:20:04
disposal to try and
1:20:06
to try and to quash any
1:20:08
of these future votes.
1:20:09
Yeah. The last thing I'll mention here is Volkswagen.
1:20:13
They are used to dealing with unions in
1:20:15
their European locations,
1:20:18
and so the reports are they were
1:20:20
less hostile to unionization
1:20:22
efforts than other automakers
1:20:25
like Tesla, for example. Maybe,
1:20:27
so that could be a key factor here as well.
1:20:30
But the fact that this victory was so resounding,
1:20:33
the fact that this same planet had lost two
1:20:35
separate votes and now votes
1:20:38
seventy three percent for a union really
1:20:40
does show you that we're living in a different
1:20:42
era now. Things have decidedly changed.
1:20:44
Absolutely.
1:20:45
All right, let's move on to Tucker Carlson
1:20:47
on the Joe Rogan Experience. There were wild
1:20:49
conspiracies flying when the episode
1:20:52
itself was posted. Why doesn't
1:20:54
it have enough views? What's going on there? Well, it's
1:20:56
got several million views now, so everybody can relax.
1:20:58
In general, just who don't have YouTube channels.
1:21:01
In the first twenty four hours, it will
1:21:03
often be much less publicly
1:21:05
than what it actually is on the back end.
1:21:08
I'm not really sure why they do that, but just
1:21:10
so people understand that's what it is. After
1:21:12
around twenty four hours or so, you can go and
1:21:14
check and you will see the actual
1:21:16
number. But that belies what's actually
1:21:18
important. There were some ideological disagreements
1:21:22
that were made on the show, where Tucker
1:21:24
in particular echoed some of the things that he talked
1:21:26
about previously whenever I interviewed him before
1:21:28
about free speech hypocrites in
1:21:31
the alternative media space.
1:21:33
He names in shames.
1:21:34
Barry Weiss and then also heavily implies
1:21:37
Ben Shapiro as well let's take a listen.
1:21:39
If you hear someone talk that's saying
1:21:42
something that's kind of horseshit, it
1:21:45
resonates with you that that's what you've seen.
1:21:47
You had a moment with Barry Weiss on your show
1:21:50
that when everywhere I saw
1:21:52
a clip of it. I never saw the show itself,
1:21:54
but she was going on about she
1:21:57
was posing as one thing, and then you pressed you, you like,
1:21:59
well, hold on a second, what do you mean by that? You just attack
1:22:01
somebody? And she had no idea what she was talking about.
1:22:04
And it became really clear to me watching that. I completely
1:22:06
changed my view of Barry Weiss forever. I was like, oh,
1:22:08
this she's a fraud. Actually, this
1:22:11
person's not honest at all. Like she has
1:22:13
a very specific agenda, that's
1:22:15
all she cares about. The rest
1:22:17
of this stuff is just a is
1:22:20
a kind of sleight of hand maneuver.
1:22:21
You're talking about the thing with Tulta Gabbart, that's correct.
1:22:24
Yeah, she called her a toady and she didn't know what that
1:22:26
meant.
1:22:26
Well, but she had no idea like Telsea Gabbard
1:22:28
had straight outside the lines on some Syria
1:22:31
or something. Oh huh.
1:22:33
And Barry Weiss
1:22:36
was, you know, going through the files in her head,
1:22:38
like what does she have to believe? And
1:22:41
she was aware that, you know, Tulsi Gabbart
1:22:43
had somehow violated that in a way that no one's willing
1:22:45
to say, like in detail to her
1:22:48
fully articulately, what did Tulsi Gabbert do wrong? No one will
1:22:50
tell you.
1:22:50
She's just bad. But it's important
1:22:52
to be honest about what your agenda.
1:22:54
She is honest. I think she is honest,
1:22:56
and I really like her.
1:22:57
Yeah, I like that.
1:22:58
I'm not she's very into well, not against
1:23:00
her personally.
1:23:01
I just think that was a mistake, and
1:23:03
I think you're allowed to do that and hopefully
1:23:05
learn from that.
1:23:06
If your agenda is
1:23:09
neo kun politics, which is her agenda, just
1:23:11
say so. Don't pretend to
1:23:14
be a defender of free speech as a principle,
1:23:16
which is what she does.
1:23:17
How is she a defender of neokon politics?
1:23:19
Very wise?
1:23:20
Yeah, like what specifically, Well,
1:23:23
anyone including me and Tulca Gabbard,
1:23:25
who thinks that America shouldn't
1:23:27
be funding worse that don't help America, she
1:23:30
will attack.
1:23:31
Yeah, I mean that's empirically true. I'm on Barry's
1:23:33
feed literally, right, and listen, I have nothing personal
1:23:35
against Barry Wise. You've only ever been cordial.
1:23:38
This is purely a professional disagreement.
1:23:40
Has put all that out there. But I'm on
1:23:43
Barry's feed and everything is about
1:23:45
individual students getting attacked at
1:23:48
Yeah, for example, headline at the Free Press,
1:23:50
I was stabbed in the Yale because
1:23:53
I am a Jew. And then I continue
1:23:55
to scroll past, and I see multiple
1:23:58
retweets of like a panic going
1:24:00
on anti free speech that's happening
1:24:03
at Columbia University. If I continue
1:24:05
to scroll and look at the Free Press, I see
1:24:07
articles that are justifying more
1:24:09
aid to Ukraine, more aid to Israel.
1:24:11
But really what gave away the game to me? And this is actually
1:24:14
just pure, one hundred percent proof, is it. Verry
1:24:16
did an event in Israel with a guy
1:24:18
named Natan Sharansky. Now most
1:24:21
of you probably don't know who that is. Sharansky
1:24:23
is an israel Israeli politician and
1:24:25
a father of neo conservative ideology.
1:24:28
He his book was chiefly
1:24:30
responsible for George W. Bush's
1:24:32
second inaugural address and the
1:24:34
Freedom Agenda about spreading
1:24:36
democracy to Iraq. So if
1:24:39
you are doing an event with the father
1:24:42
of the Freedom Agenda from
1:24:44
Iraq, you are a neocon one
1:24:46
hundred percent. And she did that unironically
1:24:49
in Israel. And then also
1:24:51
while there was posting videos like.
1:24:52
This is what it's like to be under attack, you know, while.
1:24:55
We're in Israel, people were like, yeah, what about a couple miles
1:24:57
away over there in God's Like, I'm not justifying
1:24:59
the attack, but I'm just come on, you know, like, let's
1:25:01
chill here a little bit on the propaganda.
1:25:04
So look, with all due respect to our
1:25:06
friend Joe Rogan, I do think
1:25:08
Barry is an absolutely unreconstructed
1:25:10
neo conservative, a hypocrite whenever
1:25:13
it comes to free speech, as Tucker correctly
1:25:15
was calling out there, and he wasn't just talking about her, he was
1:25:17
also talking about Ben Shapiro because
1:25:19
both of those individuals raised
1:25:22
and let's be honest, you know, monetarily
1:25:24
became multi millionaires speaking
1:25:27
out against free speech,
1:25:29
hypocrisy and all that. And it's very easy, you
1:25:31
know, to attack the left world, do it here anytime
1:25:33
if we see hypocrisy as well. But you know, whenever
1:25:36
it comes to an issue there where they have a deep
1:25:38
emotional and religious attachment, then
1:25:40
all of a sudden, all that stuff gets thrown right out the
1:25:42
window.
1:25:43
Listen part of Joe's charms
1:25:45
that he sees the best in them. Yeah, that's we're sitting across
1:25:47
from him, and that includes Barry Weiss, so we'll
1:25:49
put him aside. In terms of the commentary.
1:25:52
You know, the free speech part with Barry,
1:25:54
it's so blatant because you
1:25:57
know, when she was a college student, she
1:25:59
was engaged aged in some of these activist efforts
1:26:02
to get Muslim professors
1:26:05
who she found to be saying things she didn't like
1:26:07
canceled. Now she claimed once she entered
1:26:09
her quote unquote free speech era that oh, I was a
1:26:11
college student and people gave her a pass. Okay, find
1:26:13
your college student. People, you know, make mistakes and
1:26:15
they change and they grow, et cetera, et cetera. But
1:26:18
the minute it came to Israel, suddenly
1:26:20
she is the biggest cancel
1:26:23
culture proponent that you could possibly
1:26:25
am. I mean, that is what her entire Twitter
1:26:27
feed is at this point. And
1:26:30
it's not surprising that
1:26:32
this tactic is being used to
1:26:34
smear an entire protest movement
1:26:37
and an entire cause because
1:26:40
we see this plan on through throughout history.
1:26:42
It's easier to you know,
1:26:44
find the asshole in the movement,
1:26:47
use that person to smear the entire
1:26:49
movement, and then use that smearing
1:26:51
of the movement to delegitimize the cause.
1:26:54
And at this point, if you're an Israel supporter, that
1:26:56
is a lot easier than actually out
1:26:58
and out justifying what Israel
1:27:00
is doing in Palestine day after day. It
1:27:02
was a lot easier than out and out trying to
1:27:04
argue that US continuing to support them
1:27:07
as they were sending the
1:27:09
world catastrophically in World War three
1:27:11
is somehow an American interest. So
1:27:13
it's you know, it's a cheap and easy playbook that we see
1:27:15
throughout history. And yeah, she was happy to ditch
1:27:17
the free speech language the minute that it was became
1:27:19
inconvenient for her, after she built an entire
1:27:22
your media empire off
1:27:24
of it. So, I mean, that's just the reality.
1:27:26
You believe what you want, Okay, it's free country.
1:27:28
If you want to be rapidly pro Israel, cool,
1:27:30
you want to cancel people who are Palestinian
1:27:33
activists while you're in college and then
1:27:36
apologize.
1:27:36
For it, which is what she did. Objectively. She came
1:27:39
out and said that she.
1:27:41
Regretted her passing that I'll
1:27:43
take you at your word, but then if you're immediately
1:27:46
going to regress back to that same
1:27:48
behavior, then I'm not going to take you
1:27:50
out your word.
1:27:51
I'm going to say that you are a giant hypocrite.
1:27:53
And that's the same problem I have with Ben
1:27:55
Shapiro, again, a pan who I have only
1:27:57
ever had good personal interaction with. But
1:28:00
this is a professional and a principal
1:28:03
disagreement about what we view as
1:28:05
important and what we view as actually
1:28:08
whether you're standing up for what you said you believe
1:28:11
in or not. And I think it was I'm glad that Tucker
1:28:13
said that. I would hope, you know that Joe
1:28:15
would maybe be take a look at some other
1:28:17
free press articles that are
1:28:19
out there, because I do think it's very important.
1:28:21
There were also some allegations that Tucker
1:28:24
made about blackmail and members
1:28:26
of Congress, according to him, that he's
1:28:28
seen from the intelligence community.
1:28:29
Let's take a listen, by.
1:28:31
The way, you know, whatever,
1:28:33
that's all I'll say, By the way,
1:28:36
no, I mean, you know, people don't say that because they're worried
1:28:38
abut getting punished. They're worried about someone putting kitty
1:28:40
porn on their computer. Members of Congress
1:28:42
are terrified of the Intel agencies
1:28:44
I'm not guessing at that. They've told me that,
1:28:47
including people on the Intel Committee, including
1:28:49
people who run the Intel Committee, the people
1:28:51
whose job it is to oversee
1:28:53
and keep in line these enormous
1:28:56
secretive agencies whose budgets
1:28:58
we can't even know their black budget. It's there.
1:29:02
The parents, the agencies are the
1:29:04
children. They're afraid
1:29:07
of the agencies. That's not
1:29:10
compatible with democracy.
1:29:11
Interesting alleging there
1:29:14
that they'll put Katie porn on your I mean, listen,
1:29:16
it's certainly possible. The broader thing,
1:29:18
I definitely one hundred percent agree with. Glenn
1:29:20
always loves to put play that clip
1:29:23
of Chuck Schumer from twenty seventeen
1:29:25
whenever he's like, Trump shouldn't mess with the Intel
1:29:27
agencies and the CIA because they
1:29:30
can really make life hard for you. And
1:29:32
You're like, wait, what is your job
1:29:34
is to is to.
1:29:35
Oversee the CIA?
1:29:36
Are you saying that there's the opposite,
1:29:38
And I mean, considering what happened with Mike Johnson,
1:29:41
where you have a guy who voted
1:29:43
against Ukraine AID, spoke out against Ukraine AID,
1:29:45
became president and then literally said because
1:29:48
of the Intel that he decided to flip and
1:29:50
become Winston Churchill and he prayed on
1:29:52
on all that.
1:29:53
I am not going to rule out blackmel Cristal. In terms
1:29:55
of this, Mike john.
1:29:55
Remember the Russian space Nuka
1:29:58
just say situation when they're just yes with them
1:30:00
through Listen the
1:30:03
kitty porn thing. Extraordinary claims require
1:30:05
extraordinary evidence, no evidence
1:30:07
presented. In addition, like this does
1:30:09
kind of give a past to how any member
1:30:11
of Congress in the future ends up with kitty porn on
1:30:13
their laptop, to be like, it wasn't me, it was the
1:30:15
Intel committees. It's just because I'm such a like,
1:30:18
you know, warrior for truth that they're coming after
1:30:20
me. Whatever. Look at what Tucker had to say
1:30:22
about it. It's all out there in the open, soide don't love those comments
1:30:25
certainly in terms the thing
1:30:27
is that many of these conspiracies are out in the open.
1:30:29
Like we were discussing before, we know the way
1:30:31
that they rolled Obama. We know,
1:30:34
you know, Trump was easily manipulated.
1:30:36
Mike Johnson publicly admitted
1:30:39
that he was emotionally manipulated
1:30:42
by them into completely changing
1:30:44
his previously held multiple positions.
1:30:47
So I mean that part of it is
1:30:49
just like it's not a conspiracy, that's just
1:30:51
an undeniable fact about the way that they
1:30:53
operate, and they can threaten to leak to the press,
1:30:55
and there's any number of stenographers out there or print
1:30:58
whatever they want to print, and they can ruin you,
1:31:00
and these politicians know they can ruin you.
1:31:02
You add to that, then you know the amount of
1:31:04
money coming in not only through the Israel lobby,
1:31:07
but also critically across every
1:31:09
issue from the military industrial
1:31:11
complex, these defense The defense industry
1:31:14
is one of the largest funders
1:31:16
of political campaigns. And you see how
1:31:19
you end up with the results that we have,
1:31:21
which are directly contrary to actual
1:31:24
democracy and actual will of the people,
1:31:26
which is why over and over and over again,
1:31:28
you see these things only go in one direction.
1:31:30
Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's okay, second part
1:31:32
here, and this requires an entire
1:31:35
discussion on its own.
1:31:36
Talker and I do share a fascination.
1:31:39
With UFO's UAPs whatever you
1:31:41
would like to call it. But he seems to believe
1:31:44
that the phenomenon as
1:31:46
it exists involves something
1:31:48
supernatural but of this
1:31:50
world, and something that is not
1:31:53
alien or extraterrestrial. Here's
1:31:55
the case that he laid out on Joe Rogan.
1:31:57
Well, when you say spiritual, like what makes
1:32:00
you draw that conclusion that their spiritual?
1:32:02
What's the obvious I mean spiritual maybe the wrong words supernatural?
1:32:05
You know, they're beyond nature as we understand
1:32:07
it. I mean, obviously they are. I mean, just
1:32:10
chart their physical behavior. It doesn't you
1:32:12
know, it goes outside of what we understand
1:32:14
about physics. So if you have a
1:32:16
craft, any object underwater
1:32:19
that's traveling at five hundred knots as
1:32:21
measured by sonar right there, you're challenging
1:32:23
understanding physics, like what is that? How can that
1:32:25
be?
1:32:26
So they've they've tracked that, they've
1:32:28
tracked things going five hundred knots under
1:32:31
the sea.
1:32:32
Yeah really, yeah, much much faster
1:32:35
than any object could can actually go under
1:32:37
under Oh for sure.
1:32:40
Oh yeah.
1:32:41
There's a lot of stuff going on underwater
1:32:44
and a lot
1:32:46
and there's video of these things coming
1:32:49
out of the sky into the
1:32:51
water and also emerging from the water.
1:32:53
Right.
1:32:53
But then there's a deeper level, which is like, Okay,
1:32:56
what's your relationship with these things?
1:32:59
What is the US government's relationship
1:33:01
with these things? And there's evidence
1:33:03
that there is a relationship and that
1:33:05
it's a longstanding and that
1:33:08
raises like a lot of questions about intent,
1:33:11
and.
1:33:13
So like what is that?
1:33:14
And I just personally decided, you
1:33:18
know, and people have been hurt by these things. You
1:33:20
know, that's a fact. That's a fact. It's
1:33:22
a noble fact, it's a provable fact.
1:33:25
And killed.
1:33:26
And I'm not saying millions of people have been killed
1:33:28
by whatever these things are, but people have been killed,
1:33:30
and it's known because it's working its way through
1:33:32
the courts out of the VA. So I
1:33:36
don't know an object that is
1:33:39
by definition supernatural, it's above
1:33:42
the laws of nature as we understand them, and
1:33:44
that has resulted in the deaths of
1:33:47
people. We
1:33:49
don't spend enough time thinking about like what that adds up to,
1:33:52
like not good? Actually not good.
1:33:54
So he's implying kind of the same stuff that he'd
1:33:56
previously talks about here, Crystal. I mean, he seems
1:33:58
to believe that uap ufo
1:34:00
whatever you would like to call it, of beer in here for
1:34:03
hundreds of years, which definitely
1:34:05
there is evidence for that, but that
1:34:08
they are like some sort of biblical
1:34:10
angels and demons as
1:34:12
opposed to extraterrestrials.
1:34:14
So I'll let you weigh in before I give some of my
1:34:17
thoughts.
1:34:17
Well, this k yeah, this the context before
1:34:19
of his interview with Putin, We're asked
1:34:21
Putin something about this, and Putin's like, noe,
1:34:24
yeah,
1:34:26
I don't know. I feel like I have to get you to decode
1:34:28
this for me, because I was asking you previously, how
1:34:32
large of a percentage of the like UFO
1:34:35
interest community shares
1:34:37
this like Christian spiritual
1:34:41
angel demons view of whatever
1:34:43
the hell is going on?
1:34:44
This is more of like a nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties
1:34:46
UFO phenomenal. Really yeah, oh yeah, people
1:34:48
back in the day used to really believe.
1:34:50
I thought this was like a new school, like Christian Nationalism.
1:34:52
No, no, no, definitely, no, absolutely not.
1:34:54
If anything, it's much older, the more of the extraterrestrial
1:34:57
school, I guess you could call it is. I
1:34:59
mean, it's always been there for the entire time, but there's
1:35:01
always been debates and all around this. To
1:35:03
a certain extent, I don't even care, because as long as people are
1:35:05
interested, it's just going to lead to more transparency.
1:35:07
What kicked off this entire discussion
1:35:10
actually was the declassification of the ConA
1:35:12
Blue Program, and these were declassified
1:35:15
documents. News Nation reporting this
1:35:17
and I've confirmed at least some of it as well,
1:35:19
from those people that I've spoken to, is
1:35:21
specifically about a proposed program to try
1:35:23
and reverse engineer back UFOs.
1:35:26
It was quote scrapped according to them, when
1:35:28
no alien technology was found, and
1:35:31
the Pentagon continues to maintain there is
1:35:33
no evidence of alien life. So what
1:35:35
they said, basically, what they're claiming is
1:35:37
there was a proposal to back engineer UFOs,
1:35:39
but then they weren't able to find any UFOs. But why would
1:35:41
you have a back engineering proposal if there were
1:35:43
no UFOs?
1:35:44
Whatever? Got chat?
1:35:45
Okay, there's a lot of conversation I
1:35:47
guess around this. To be
1:35:49
honest, I mean, look, you know, nome disrespect.
1:35:52
Doesn't it seem more plausible that
1:35:54
that we're dealing with extraterrestrial
1:35:56
life than we are angels and demons
1:35:59
that we're dealing with if something, you know,
1:36:01
one is in the realm of all
1:36:03
scientifics. All sci fi is
1:36:05
premised on what on the idea and
1:36:08
specifically toying with the Fermi paradox
1:36:10
and all that that if intelligent
1:36:13
life is able to arise on a relatively
1:36:15
unremarkable planet like Earth, then why would
1:36:17
it not be able to arise in the billions
1:36:19
and billions and trillions upon stars that exists
1:36:21
in our galaxy at the same time. If there
1:36:23
are, and extraterrestrial life is almost
1:36:25
a certainty, then why haven't we been able
1:36:28
to see it or observe it? And that's
1:36:30
where it comes into play of like, well, an intelligent
1:36:32
life would have to be able to achieve you know, faster
1:36:34
than light travel at the exact same time
1:36:37
that the human race has. One hundred
1:36:39
and fifty thousand years or whatever of human evolution
1:36:42
is a blink of an eye in terrestrial terms.
1:36:44
So there may have been vast great civilizations
1:36:46
that have been risen and fallen in the interim,
1:36:48
and that way, we may be the only ones in
1:36:51
our star system or whatever at the current
1:36:53
moment that is able.
1:36:54
To even see.
1:36:55
So I accept, and you know, see both
1:36:57
certain possibilities, but I think
1:36:59
that that is a lot more of a possible
1:37:01
explanation.
1:37:02
I will just say, very humbly myself.
1:37:04
That's very diplomatically put. Yeah, I'll just
1:37:06
defer.
1:37:06
To you on that one. Yeah.
1:37:08
Look, in terms of the evidence
1:37:10
for their theory, what
1:37:13
they point to is again not necessarily incompatible
1:37:16
with any theories around extraterrestrial
1:37:18
life, because we're there evidence
1:37:21
for supernatural and or
1:37:23
like religion and all that really
1:37:25
relies again on like big
1:37:27
conversations within physics around the
1:37:30
fourth and the fifth dimension and this whole idea if
1:37:32
you ever watch Interstellar, you know the idea of
1:37:34
its future humans send themselves back.
1:37:36
I think that's the explanations
1:37:40
if there is one for kind of what he's talking about.
1:37:42
Gotch if that makes sense. Okay, anyway,
1:37:44
there we go.
1:37:45
All right, guys, we have a great guest standing
1:37:47
by who's actually been tracking these protests
1:37:50
on the Columbia University campus for
1:37:52
quite a while. So let's go ahead and get to that. Very
1:37:57
pleased to be joined this morning by prem Taker. He's
1:37:59
a reporter for the as I mentioned, has
1:38:01
been covering these Columbia University protests for quite
1:38:03
some time. Great to have you, probub, welcome you.
1:38:05
See you man.
1:38:05
Happy to happ to be here, thank you.
1:38:08
So we all were witnessed to some extraordinary scenes
1:38:10
coming out of the campus grounds
1:38:13
over the weekend. Let's go and put this up on the screen
1:38:15
and maybe you can tell us what we see here. It's the
1:38:18
New York Police Department coming
1:38:20
in to arrest what
1:38:23
appeared to be peaceful student protesters
1:38:25
just give us a little bit of what we're looking at and what the
1:38:27
backstory is here.
1:38:29
Yeah, So.
1:38:31
On Wednesday, as many people know, last week,
1:38:33
Columbia administrators, including Columbia
1:38:35
President Minushafik, had been called to Congress
1:38:38
to testify in front
1:38:40
of the hearing of the House committee
1:38:42
that has been hosting hearings on antisemitism.
1:38:45
And at the same morning that this was happening,
1:38:48
hundreds of Columbia students had launched an
1:38:50
encampment, both kind
1:38:52
of in relation to this hearing, but
1:38:54
more broadly sort of escalating ongoing
1:38:57
demands they've had for years now about financial
1:38:59
trends, expariency, and to call for the
1:39:02
school to divest from companies
1:39:04
that might be implicated in israels
1:39:06
of violence in Palestine. And so there's
1:39:09
this en camera that that sprouts up on
1:39:11
Wednesday morning, very massive encampment at
1:39:13
the same time the administrators are testifying
1:39:15
in front of Congress at this hearing. Of
1:39:17
course I was at the hearing live, but
1:39:20
you know, as many people were just falling through Twitter
1:39:23
and c spent if that's your choice.
1:39:26
These members
1:39:29
of Congress, especially Republicans, have really gotten
1:39:32
Columbian administrators to agree to this
1:39:34
premise that more needed to be
1:39:36
done in response to these students. And
1:39:38
so you see, the day after Thursday,
1:39:41
Columbia acts on those
1:39:43
premises and sends the NYPD to
1:39:45
sort of sweep out this encampment and
1:39:49
begin conducting arrests, of which I
1:39:51
believe over one hundred students were arrested.
1:39:55
I believe fifty odd students
1:39:57
from Barnard, the Women's College at Columbia,
1:40:00
and then thirty odd Columbia
1:40:02
students, and I think this number has probably grown since then.
1:40:05
We're also suspended.
1:40:07
So that was the beginning of what we've now
1:40:09
seen, you know, the past four or five
1:40:11
days, just this ongoing escalation
1:40:15
on part especially of the university to kind
1:40:17
of meet these students,
1:40:19
not with sort of perhaps good faith willingness
1:40:22
to negotiate or discuss
1:40:25
issues at hand, but really just to police
1:40:27
them. And I'll note last night
1:40:29
at one fifteen am, President Manushafik
1:40:31
sent an email kind of expressing an
1:40:34
interest in.
1:40:34
In some ways.
1:40:36
You know, of course people criticize the statement, but
1:40:39
she's expressed a desire to
1:40:41
kind of hash things out and then bring
1:40:43
the temperature down.
1:40:44
So that's kind of the latest.
1:40:46
Update, okay, And so you
1:40:49
also put out an image which we're about to
1:40:51
play here, which was the aftermath after
1:40:54
the NYPD he came in where it appears to
1:40:56
actually pour gasoline on that. Let's actually
1:40:58
see that image right now, and
1:41:12
so prem that image underscore
1:41:14
that it actually ended up increasing
1:41:16
the amount of protesters.
1:41:18
It's drawn attention. Now, what
1:41:20
is the current status quo?
1:41:21
And give us some background because things
1:41:23
now I've reached the national discourse level.
1:41:26
We've seen people calling for the National Guard
1:41:29
to be brought in the NYPD.
1:41:31
Mayor Eric Adams.
1:41:33
Actually, I think we have that statement
1:41:35
out there f seven guys, if we can put that up there
1:41:37
on the screen. We have Mayor
1:41:40
Eric Adams who has put out a tweet
1:41:42
where he says that he deplores
1:41:44
the amount of anti semitism on campus.
1:41:46
I'm horrified and disgusted being spewed
1:41:49
around the Columbia University.
1:41:50
Hate has no place in our city.
1:41:51
I've instructed NYPD to investigate
1:41:53
any violation of the law. Rhetoric
1:41:56
is certainly ramping up there. So what
1:41:58
do you expect the fallout to?
1:42:00
Yeah, So for context, in the past
1:42:02
day or two, there have been instances
1:42:05
of alleged you know, anti semitism that have
1:42:07
been circulating throughout the internet,
1:42:11
things that you know, we ought to verify, and also
1:42:13
things that it's not clear if they
1:42:15
were in fact Propositian students
1:42:18
making these claims or doing these things. There's
1:42:20
concerns as with protests, especially
1:42:23
with regards to Israel pastime for
1:42:25
years of potential infiltration,
1:42:29
slash fall flags. You know, we're not sure,
1:42:31
but regardless, in any
1:42:33
case, those instances
1:42:35
have helped propel numerous members
1:42:38
of Congress, even the White House, as you saw Eric
1:42:40
Adams as well as Governor Kathy Okle to
1:42:42
issue statements essentially condemning
1:42:46
the student protesters in all sorts
1:42:48
of ways, whether it's you know, describing
1:42:51
them or comparing them to possibly being terrorist
1:42:53
sympathizers or at least echoing
1:42:56
terrorist rhetoric. I believe John
1:42:59
Fetterman had much more direct
1:43:01
comparison that if you gave these
1:43:04
students tiki torches, they'd
1:43:06
be unmistakable from the Charlottesville Unite
1:43:09
the Right rally. But regardless,
1:43:11
you know, that has definitely I think probably
1:43:14
prompted this this late night savement from
1:43:16
Manushafik, and
1:43:19
so as far as how students and faculty
1:43:21
members are navigating this today, all classes
1:43:24
are virtual, I think as as the administration
1:43:26
tries to figure out what.
1:43:27
To do today.
1:43:30
As well, faculty starting
1:43:32
yesterday had a very hard time getting around campus.
1:43:35
Their ide access to buildings. A lot of faculty
1:43:37
reporting was either severely
1:43:40
hindered or even just blocked and they had to be escorted
1:43:43
to buildings. And that change
1:43:45
was made kind of spontaneously, which
1:43:47
means students to faculty
1:43:49
who had you know, whether it was a
1:43:51
notebook or project, and in various buildings that
1:43:53
they couldn't really go to to get those things.
1:43:56
So I think everything is kind
1:43:59
of you know, being done by the sea of their
1:44:01
pants in terms of how
1:44:03
far this is spreading to your points are Yeah,
1:44:05
Like after the NYPD
1:44:08
was authorized to come in and arrest students,
1:44:11
that set off hundreds more students to
1:44:13
have more interest just in Columbia's campus, but also
1:44:16
now students throughout the country who have already also
1:44:18
been protesting against
1:44:20
perhaps university involvement or investment in
1:44:23
Israel's violence.
1:44:24
They've been escalating to schools.
1:44:26
And these aren't just Ivy League schools that
1:44:29
are often you know, seen
1:44:31
as the centrifuge of these
1:44:34
actions. You know, there's the universe from North
1:44:36
Carolina. There's Michigan University as of today
1:44:38
that's doing an encampment Miami
1:44:41
University in Oxford, Ohio, which I love
1:44:43
to say the full sentence of because
1:44:45
it's a very silly series of words.
1:44:47
But there's a lot of schools across the country
1:44:49
that now are being host to actions
1:44:51
that are not just in solidarity with
1:44:53
these Columbia students, but really just ramping up their
1:44:55
own actions to say, well, if Columbia
1:44:58
can do this too, Columbia.
1:45:00
Students, I should say, then we ought to be escalating
1:45:03
as well. It is kind of the mindset of these students.
1:45:07
Have you seen any evidence that
1:45:09
anti Semitism is one of the core emotions
1:45:12
or goals that are fueling these protests
1:45:15
movements across a variety of college
1:45:17
campuses.
1:45:19
So I've been speaking to students all
1:45:21
across the country throughout the past six months,
1:45:24
and I think, as
1:45:27
in any case, of course, individual
1:45:30
instances of antisemitism would surely
1:45:32
happen to any place, because reality
1:45:35
check, there are anti Semitic people in this country and in
1:45:37
this world. But in terms of this specific
1:45:39
protest movement, what we've seen
1:45:41
at the Columbia protest, what we've seen at
1:45:43
protests throughout the past six months, throughout
1:45:45
past years. Is that it's very
1:45:48
much both just visually
1:45:50
if you take a look, but also in terms of their rhetoric,
1:45:53
in terms of what they want. It's
1:45:55
a multi racial, interfaith
1:45:57
group of people that really just
1:46:00
fired up by the idea that their
1:46:02
schools, their elected officials,
1:46:05
the people that they trust or just
1:46:07
simply pay are
1:46:09
implicated in what they see
1:46:12
as a state government
1:46:14
that's committing apartheid, that's committing violence
1:46:17
that they might be financially implicated or
1:46:19
institutionally implicated. That
1:46:21
seems to be the driving force for all these protesters
1:46:24
for the most part, as sort of an
1:46:26
organization, as a group
1:46:29
of people that are coming together for goals.
1:46:30
It's to not allow the
1:46:33
images that they've seen over the past six months, especially
1:46:36
to continue. And as a
1:46:38
lot of anti Zionis Jewish people
1:46:40
say, not in their name either.
1:46:43
So we have yet seen, though the
1:46:45
chief Rabbi at Columbia F five, who
1:46:47
can please put that up there on the
1:46:49
screen where the chief Rabbi
1:46:52
has put out a message
1:46:54
to the more than two hundred and ninety Jewish students at Columbia
1:46:57
University yesterday morning, recommending
1:46:59
that they go home until it is safe
1:47:01
again for them on campus. So is
1:47:04
there any evidence that any of these students are unsafe
1:47:06
on their campus?
1:47:09
Yeah, so I think similarly again, I would
1:47:11
say that, you know, there could very well
1:47:13
be individuals of anti Cmitism
1:47:15
that students are facing, and and if
1:47:18
they're apporting them to to their own you know, whether it's
1:47:20
their faith leaders or or campus leaders
1:47:22
as the administration has recommended, then
1:47:25
of course some of those leaders will say, hey, you know, I
1:47:27
personally don't think it's safe. For
1:47:30
what it's worth, there have been also
1:47:32
lots of Jewish students and Jewish student leaders and
1:47:35
and and facut members as well that are pushing
1:47:38
back against that quite
1:47:40
severely, especially
1:47:43
given that many of the people within the encampment themselves
1:47:46
are either Israeli or Jewish.
1:47:49
So you know, I'm not going to UH
1:47:51
as their individual porters say who
1:47:53
should or shouldn't feel safe generally
1:47:55
for for for their own individual's sake, But
1:47:58
in terms of the campus
1:48:01
as a whole, I think
1:48:03
if we're going to look for UH
1:48:06
document instance the violence that have been committed,
1:48:08
of course, one of the main ones that's been on
1:48:10
people's mind is of course the incident
1:48:13
in January where students
1:48:15
were sprayed with some sort of chemical
1:48:18
It's not been confirmed what.
1:48:21
At a rally for Gaza.
1:48:22
That's one of the more prominent instances of
1:48:25
of of violence against students, and
1:48:28
nevertheless, those students continue
1:48:30
to organize and be together. I
1:48:32
believe the Craft Center as well, which
1:48:35
is a big space for for Jewish
1:48:37
students, has encouraged students to sort
1:48:40
of, you know, are to not exit
1:48:44
campus in this way because
1:48:47
I think, you know, they want to, you know, make sure that they
1:48:49
provide a space for students as well in
1:48:51
case students are feeling you know, distressed. But
1:48:54
I think for one, especially
1:48:56
politicians, to to operate on
1:48:58
this presumption that Columbia and other college
1:49:00
campuses are not a safe place for
1:49:03
Jewish people or Israeli people are
1:49:06
really teeing off on these sort of viral
1:49:09
claims of individual instances and
1:49:11
are not entertaining the fact that there are scores
1:49:13
of Jewish and Israeli students and students
1:49:16
of all backgrounds that not only feel safe
1:49:18
on campus, but feel empowered on campus
1:49:21
because that they're of this
1:49:23
organizing together.
1:49:26
Prom last thing for you, I wanted to get your reaction to
1:49:28
the White House statement, guys, this is E six
1:49:30
we can put up on the screen.
1:49:32
They said, Well, every American
1:49:34
has the right to peaceful protest. Calls for violence
1:49:36
and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students
1:49:38
in the Jewish community are blatantly anti Semitic, unconsortable,
1:49:41
and dangerous. They have absolutely no place
1:49:43
on any college campus or anywhere in the USA. And
1:49:45
echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations,
1:49:47
especially in the wake of the worst massacre committed
1:49:50
against the Jewish people since the Holocaust,
1:49:52
is despicable. We condemn these
1:49:54
statements in the strongest terms.
1:49:58
How would you compare this reaction action
1:50:00
to the White House to reported
1:50:04
isolated comments of random
1:50:06
protesters near college
1:50:08
campuses. How would you compare that
1:50:11
reaction to the reaction they
1:50:13
had, for example, to a member of Congress
1:50:15
calling for Gaza to be nuked, or another
1:50:17
one saying goodbye Palestine, or
1:50:19
another one saying there are no innocent
1:50:22
Gozzins.
1:50:24
Yeah, I think your question kind
1:50:26
of lays out the answer itself. You know, this is actually
1:50:28
something we had reported on two weeks ago, just
1:50:31
going through every single sort
1:50:33
of anti Palestine new thing that a member
1:50:35
of Congress had said over the past exons, and
1:50:37
of course that list could not be all inclusive just
1:50:40
because it's so normalized.
1:50:43
But you know, this
1:50:45
administration has not issued
1:50:47
any sort of direct formal response
1:50:49
or statement with regards to those
1:50:52
that growing pile of
1:50:54
just vicious anti past in retic as
1:50:57
you know, Lindsey Graham saying to level the
1:50:59
place, Cotton, saying Israel
1:51:01
can bounce the Reubland Gaza, as you just to
1:51:03
you know, numerous representatives saying
1:51:06
to you know, we're going to turn into a parking
1:51:08
lot. Representative Brian mass
1:51:10
who famously wore his idea of
1:51:12
uniform to Congress, which I'm not sure how usual
1:51:15
it is for an American number of Congress to away
1:51:17
a foreign military uniform to to the halls
1:51:20
of Congress, but he compared Palestinian
1:51:22
civilians to Nazis and has said
1:51:24
other vicious things as well.
1:51:26
You know, this administration has not.
1:51:28
Issued any sort of formal statement on it, let alone,
1:51:31
you know, rhetorically or or politically
1:51:34
exhibited any sort of counter to that idea.
1:51:37
Those things kind of exist in the ether, and
1:51:39
it's not sort of sort of evidently
1:51:41
clear. And the same way that the Biden instiration has
1:51:44
issued many many, many statements about October
1:51:46
seventh about condemning Hamas, about anti
1:51:48
Semitism, which is which is all good and great. You
1:51:51
know you should be making those evident statements
1:51:53
on violence and and and anti
1:51:55
pow excuse me, anti
1:51:57
sam Semitic rhetoric. They have not done the
1:51:59
same at all, even for their own colleagues,
1:52:02
saying, you know, genocidal rhetoric.
1:52:04
I will know.
1:52:04
One other thing is that this was in
1:52:06
the same twenty four hours the White House statement
1:52:09
as Israeli
1:52:11
forces killing I believe eighteen
1:52:15
or nineteen children, and then a husband because
1:52:17
a pregnant wife, and then two yes, yes,
1:52:20
exactly, and then two more women in
1:52:22
Rafa, which should be underscored,
1:52:25
is not only where over a million civilians
1:52:27
are taking refuge after being displaced,
1:52:30
but is where the United States has ostensibly
1:52:32
said over and over and over again that they do not
1:52:34
support a major operation without
1:52:36
a plan to protect civilians. But in that time
1:52:39
Israel has repeatedly done
1:52:42
what I guess is normalized as a not
1:52:44
major operation and has just
1:52:46
been killing people just
1:52:49
over time on mass But
1:52:51
of course, nevertheless there was no formal
1:52:53
clear statement on that, and
1:52:56
I will update the people soon on this. But
1:52:58
it's been hours since I reached out
1:53:00
to the White House since midday yesterday
1:53:02
about that exact thing, to see if you know, at
1:53:05
least upon being prompted, if they would,
1:53:07
you know, share a comment.
1:53:09
I have not heard back yet.
1:53:11
There you go, prom Thank you so much
1:53:13
for joining us this morning's pleasure to meet you, get
1:53:15
to speak to you, and we've also enjoyed some of your
1:53:17
exchanges with the State Department. So please keep up the
1:53:19
good work.
1:53:20
Thanks, ma'am, take care.
1:53:21
Of you both.
1:53:22
Yeah, thanks you too.
1:53:24
Thank you guys so much for watching.
1:53:25
I'm sure we'll have a nice long show for everybody
1:53:27
tomorrow too, and we'll see you all later.
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