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4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

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4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

4/22/24: Speaker Says Bible Told Me To Fund Ukraine and Israel, US Vetos Palestinian Statehood, Man Self Immolates Outside Trump Trial, UAW Volkswagen Victory, Tucker Calls Out Bari Weiss, Columbia University Protests

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morning, everybody, Happy Monday. We have an amazing

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show for everybody day. What do we have RSTL.

0:29

Indeed we do. There was a hell of a lot happening

0:31

this weekend. Your tax dollars

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going to foreign wars. How excited

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are we about the bipartisan consensus

0:38

that always seems to win in Washington.

0:40

We've got some big news out of Israel. A couple

0:42

things to look at. So the US vetoing a

0:45

Palestinian statehood resolution at the UN

0:47

Security Council. We'll talk about the fallout from that. Also,

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BB apparently worried about potential

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arrest warrants coming from the International Criminal

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Court, so lots of break down. There've

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also got some Trump news for you man

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self. Ima outside of his trial last

1:01

week, but also opening statements start today, so

1:03

a lot to break down. There also some interesting conspiracy

1:06

theories about what Trump has been up

1:08

to while he's in the courtroom. Don't

1:10

want to miss that one.

1:11

You're going to enjoy it.

1:12

Yeah, huge victory

1:15

for labor and the United Auto Workers

1:17

in particular, a resounding win

1:20

at that Volkswagen plant in Tennessee. Will break

1:22

down what happened and what it means going forward.

1:25

Got a couple of highlights for you from Tucker

1:27

on Joe Rogan going in on a few

1:29

people and floating us through a few interesting theories.

1:31

Yeah, we'll discuss.

1:32

We've got thoughts on and we've

1:34

got a great guest on today, Prump Thoker, to talk

1:37

about these protests happening specifically

1:39

at Columbia that have been become a

1:41

big subject of national attention and debate.

1:43

The President issuing a statement, Eric Adams

1:45

issuing a statement. So we will tell you what the hell

1:48

is going on there.

1:48

Yes, of course that is the most important

1:50

story in the country to our elites. But of

1:52

course that makes sense especially with or We're

1:54

going to begin our show today. Before we get to that, we've

1:57

teased in a million times and it is coming. We've got a

1:59

big announcement that's coming soon from Emily

2:01

and Ryan. You'll hear it first from them. But

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So just put that out there.

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So if you want to go ahead and sign up, we would welcome

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you to do so. But as we teased everybody on

2:21

Thursday, a big vote was happening

2:23

in the House of Representatives after

2:25

Speaker Mike Johnson stabbed his own party

2:28

in the back and decided to pass aid

2:30

for Ukraine and for Israel,

2:33

using an unprecedented parliamentary

2:35

maneuver which basically allowed Democrats

2:37

to vote for the Ukraine aid Republicans

2:40

to vote for.

2:40

The Israeli aid package.

2:42

It all together and create the greatest uniparty

2:45

war funding that Washington has ever

2:47

seen. And they did not disappoint in

2:49

their display of dual loyalty.

2:51

Let's go and put this up.

2:52

There on the screen as the

2:54

votes passed through the House of Representatives

2:57

that officially got the

2:59

bill. Across the aisle, you

3:01

see Ukraine flags that

3:03

are all across chantings

3:06

Slava Ukraine. You've got

3:08

non American flag in site there by the way, on the

3:10

flag of the House Representatives. And don't worry,

3:12

there Israel flags on the other side too, so don't

3:14

act like they didn't exist there.

3:16

They're being passed out. What some representatives

3:19

Crystal were.

3:19

Actually facetiming Ukrainian soldiers

3:22

who are on the front line, just to say you're

3:24

welcome.

3:24

We finally have accomplished it for

3:27

you.

3:27

And I guess the main takeaway that we can have from

3:29

this is just the absolute level

3:32

of dedication that these people have to

3:34

moving heaven and earth to spend hundreds

3:36

of billions for foreign nations

3:39

so that they can conduct war. They've never

3:41

done it once for the rest of us, but

3:44

for this, of course, we can break precedent.

3:46

Screw you know. There's no talk of filibuster

3:48

or any of that other stuff. Yeh, whenever it comes

3:50

to this, sixty some billion dollars from Ukraine,

3:53

twenty six billion dollars for Israel, the vast

3:55

majority of that being fed entirely to the military

3:57

industrial complex and to these nations with it

3:59

comple leet blank check that's given to them.

4:01

Which is something they weirdly are like bragging about,

4:03

like that's a selling point, Like, don't worry, this

4:05

is a lot of this money is going to go to the military industrial

4:08

complex. Don't you feel great about that?

4:10

Now?

4:10

Listen, when it comes to you getting

4:12

healthcare, you're getting higher wages.

4:14

When it comes to you know, making sure seniors

4:17

can live on Social Security, your people

4:19

can afford childcare. You've got universal

4:21

access to preschool, or people can even just

4:23

take paid leave if they, you know, are

4:25

having a baby. None of that.

4:28

We can't get that done. We don't have the money, et

4:30

cetera, et cetera. It's too difficult, it's too hard.

4:32

But they will move heaven and earth to

4:35

make sure that we continue funding

4:37

wars, whether it is Listen,

4:39

with regard to Ukraine, I'm incredibly

4:42

sympathetic to the Ukrainians. I think it was

4:44

wrong and illegal, the Russian invasion,

4:46

But we have to be real about the fact at this point

4:49

that number one, we're the ones

4:51

who have dragged them to continue

4:53

this war by thwarting diplomatic negotiations.

4:57

Number Two, there is no

4:59

end in sight. There's not even a fig

5:01

leaf of hey, once we give them this money, then victories

5:04

around the corner. There's none of that. And

5:06

number three, their own

5:08

people at this point, the

5:11

military age men of their own population

5:13

do not want to fight. So we know the

5:15

reports about people who are disabled,

5:18

who are too old, who have

5:21

mental disabilities, being

5:23

pulled off the street and sent to the front lines,

5:26

and we're celebrating putting the guns in

5:28

their hands. We're celebrating with regard

5:30

to Israel. Look at what has happened

5:33

here. I mean, according to Euromag,

5:35

human rights min are over forty thousand Palestinian

5:37

scaled. There was just we're going to cover this later. A strike

5:40

on two strikes on Rafa killed twenty two people,

5:42

eighteen of them children. The

5:44

entire Gaza strip is annihilated, aid

5:47

workers slaughtered, and we're still

5:49

shipping them weapons as if

5:51

none of this has happened. It's

5:54

outrageous. I mean, they're really I'm not surprised

5:56

by it. I knew at some point

5:58

they would figure out how to get this done.

6:01

But you know, if you want a glimpse into

6:03

why, politicians like Mike

6:05

Johnson. He's always been fervently

6:08

Zionis. I mean, the first thing he did when he became speaker

6:10

members call met and Yahoo and passed some anti

6:12

Semitism resolution. That

6:14

one's not surprising. But he did a one eighty on

6:17

Ukraine and put this next piece up on

6:19

the screen. You wonder why, because this is the media

6:21

treatment you get by passing

6:23

Ukraine aid. Johnson became

6:26

an unlikely church Hill. There

6:30

is nothing but plaudits from the

6:32

media for funding wars

6:35

over and over and over again.

6:37

Remember how Joe Biden one good thing Joe

6:39

Biden did withdrawing from Afghanistan. Relentlessly

6:42

trash for that, even though it was overwhelmingly

6:44

what the American people wanted.

6:47

Here Johnson going against,

6:49

especially on Israel. I'll show you the pulling and a

6:52

little bit what the American people wanting,

6:54

and suddenly all their vaunted concern for democracy

6:56

evaporates when it comes to sending

6:59

your hard on tax dollars into these

7:02

conflicts to slaughter for children.

7:03

Yeah, I will be honest, this is the blackest pill

7:05

that I've had in a really long time. After all

7:07

the work that we've done here on the show,

7:10

that the media and others. Even they

7:12

have been forced to admit the failure of

7:14

the cause in Ukraine, they still

7:16

decide to do sixty billion dollars.

7:19

What so that and this is the worst

7:21

park Crystal. This sixty billion dollars will

7:23

have a single objective. It will prolong this war

7:25

for about one more year. According

7:27

to the funding statistics that have come out, this will buy

7:29

them approximately half of their failed counter

7:32

offensive. The net result of this is going

7:34

to be probably a bunch of fifty

7:36

to seventy year old Ukrainian men

7:38

who are going to lose limbs. Now,

7:41

after that period dries up, and they

7:43

continue to fail on the front line and

7:45

continue to have a five to one artillery

7:48

disadvantage against the Russians, and the Russians continue

7:50

to recoup all of the losses

7:53

that they've already had in their military ravevamp

7:55

their military industrial complex, have their

7:58

economy grow according to the if

8:00

a nonpartisan source, more

8:02

than the entire European Union. After

8:04

all of that is now clear, a year from now, what

8:07

do you think is going to happen? Sixty billion

8:09

will pale to what they are going to ask

8:11

for now to rebuild Ukraine.

8:13

Somebody's got to pay for all those limbs, and

8:15

for all those dead guys, and for pensions

8:18

and forever whatever survives,

8:21

whatever rump of the Ukrainian state

8:23

does eventually make it out of here, we will then

8:25

be on the hook for that.

8:26

It never ends. This has no

8:29

purpose.

8:29

Now, if they were using this for defensive purposes,

8:32

maybe, okay, maybe it would have some

8:34

sort of justification. But Zelenski

8:36

does not commit to defense. Instead, he says,

8:38

this will enable us for victory. How

8:41

many times do we have to hear these fake cries

8:43

of victory. They failed in the counter offensive.

8:45

They have one of the most tactically inefficient

8:48

and incompetent armies in the

8:50

world. They have not able to use NATO

8:52

tactics. Their weapons have made no difference

8:54

whenever they were flushed. Their lead

8:56

general, the head that they replaced, their

8:59

military commander with.

9:00

His nickname is the Butcher.

9:02

Not by the Russians, the people you would want him nickname,

9:04

the Butcher, by his own people. That's what they call

9:06

him the Butcher, because his entire strategy

9:08

is to just throw as many people into this as

9:11

possible on Israel as well, I mean even

9:13

zoom out.

9:13

Just from Israel's own actions.

9:15

What have they done to make America

9:17

more safe, nothing invite more

9:19

attacks on American service members

9:22

World War III. Multiple are dead now

9:24

as a result of our posture

9:26

in the Middle East in retaliation for Israel's

9:28

actions, tens of

9:31

billions of dollars that has been

9:33

spent deploying US military

9:35

and naval assets. The defense against

9:37

the Iranian attack alone costs the United States

9:39

one point three billion dollars in missile interceptors

9:42

and including missiles that cost some twenty

9:45

four million dollars each deployed

9:47

by the US to shoot down Iranian

9:49

ballistic missiles, only to then invite

9:51

in Israeli strike out on Iran with God

9:53

knows what the hell is going to happen in retaliation.

9:56

So now what you know, where.

9:57

Are we Why are we

9:59

all paying for this to continue

10:02

whenever we clearly could put an end

10:04

to it if we wanted. So in both cases, you

10:06

have wars that are making America less safe,

10:08

that are bad for the populations I would.

10:10

Say, both of Israel and for the population

10:13

of Gaza. Yeah, which I could easily make that

10:15

case.

10:15

The only people who are benefiting are the war manufacturers

10:18

and the religion of the dual loyalty

10:21

leadership class in this country, and I'm going to continue

10:23

to use.

10:23

That really triple loyalty a vice.

10:26

What I would say is this is that this is

10:29

you know Trump. I always go back.

10:30

I went back to read about seven years ago. He gave

10:32

a speech which clearly didn't believe, but it was

10:34

a good speech done the last It was his first foreign policy

10:37

speech, and he has a line in there which has always stuck

10:39

with me is that we will not worship no longer

10:41

at the false song of globalism. And

10:44

that's when I see Ukrainian

10:46

and Israeli flags being waived

10:49

on the floor of the United States House of Representatives,

10:51

When I see our Speaker of the House with

10:53

two flags on his lapel, hell not a

10:56

lapel, neither of which are the

10:58

United States flag, but are two nations which he

11:00

just broke parliamentary procedure to spend

11:02

hundreds of billions of dollars to. I can say

11:05

nothing else than these people are loyal to a foreign

11:07

government and not to our own. Now, Speaker

11:09

Johnson actually loyal to even higher

11:12

authority than any nation. Gave a justification

11:15

in particular for some of this, Israel aid on Newsmax.

11:17

Let's take a lesson.

11:18

Israel is a critical ally of ours, and I

11:20

think most people understand the necessity of

11:22

this funding. They're fighting for their very existence.

11:24

They're the only stable democracy in the Middle East.

11:27

I mean, of course, for those of us who are

11:29

believers, it's a biblical admonition to stand with Israel.

11:31

We will and they will prevail as

11:33

long as they're there with them. And this is an important,

11:36

very important symbolic gesture

11:38

and a very important replenishment of their stockpiles,

11:40

for example of the Iron Dome. The reason they shot

11:42

down all those drones and missiles in the

11:44

last attack by Iran is because we

11:46

assisted with that. I think the American people understand

11:48

the importance of that.

11:49

Did you guys hear that line?

11:50

For those of us who are believers, it is a biblical

11:53

admonition to stand with Israel.

11:55

It's like, well, if it's in the Bible, I guess there

11:57

ain't getting around that.

11:59

This is this is literally out of his mouth

12:02

the speaker of the House of Representatives,

12:04

the third in line for the American presidency,

12:07

who believes that he is like what some

12:09

hand of God?

12:10

And don't let's not let this go either.

12:12

John Hagey, who is the pastor

12:15

who leads the ten million Christian group

12:17

you know for Israel, was here in Washington

12:20

just two days before and met with Speaker

12:22

Johnson, probably to give him the language

12:25

that he needs. And all of the reporting that

12:27

we've gotten since Crystal is that the way that

12:29

Johnson arrived at this is that he

12:31

prayed on him. And listen, you know, I'm not going to

12:33

put down people who are religious and who pray.

12:36

I think that's fine, But I would

12:38

just simply ask that in the United States

12:40

of America, a country with a separation

12:42

of church and state, that we arrive at policy

12:45

decisions through reason, intellect,

12:47

and you know, possible debate, rather

12:50

than from biblical admonition.

12:53

My simple request, Well, what this

12:55

means is that it actually does

12:57

not matter to Speaker Johnson

13:00

what Israel does doesn't matter. Doesn't

13:02

matter whether it is truly

13:04

a genocide, doesn't matter, whether there are

13:07

war crimes, doesn't matter, whether

13:09

it's good for America's interest or not.

13:12

It doesn't matter because for him

13:14

it's a quote biblical admonition.

13:18

You can't argue. I mean, there's no debate

13:20

with that. That's just like no, my

13:23

fervent, ideological, unshakable

13:25

belief is that God requires

13:28

me to support Israel, no

13:30

matter the cost or consequence for Palestinians,

13:33

no matter the cost or consequence for Americans.

13:35

And this is one of the most powerful

13:38

people in the country, if

13:41

not the world, who

13:43

is making policy decisions this way, Like,

13:46

what can you even say about that? And you see

13:48

how motivating this is among a certain

13:51

segment of the Republican base as why I keep

13:53

talking about this, but I think it's so extraordinarily revealing.

13:56

When there was polling asking by religious

13:58

demographic group, how do you feel

14:01

about the net Nyahu government? Not even about

14:03

Israel or you know what's happening in Gaza, but

14:05

just the net Nyahu government. The

14:07

religious group that gave him the highest approval

14:09

ratings was not Jewish people. It

14:12

was by a mile white Evangelical

14:14

Christians. So that's,

14:17

you know, that's what's motivating him with regard

14:19

to Israel. I think that's an important part of

14:21

how he ended up flipping on a dime

14:24

with regard to Ukraine as well, because

14:26

he realized, in order to fulfill

14:28

his biblical admonition to

14:30

support Israel no matter what, he was also going

14:32

to have to play ball with Democrats on the Ukraine Bill.

14:35

Let's not forget the way he also flipped on a dime

14:37

with regard to making sure Americans can continue

14:39

to be surveilled. And you know the other

14:42

piece of this saga is that he talks about,

14:44

in addition to his religious

14:46

faith, he also talks about

14:48

how the Intel Committee,

14:50

how the Intelligence Agency, how

14:52

they really you know, they really got to him, what they

14:54

had to say to him. And we've seen this a

14:57

lot of times. You saw this with Trump as well. It's

14:59

so easy to roll these people. It's so easy

15:01

to scare them and manipulate them,

15:03

saying we saw the same thing with Obama too, by

15:05

the way, when he was Prisident of the United States. Especially

15:07

when you have someone who was inexperienced, who

15:09

hasn't been around the block, who hasn't seen

15:11

these tactics which are rolled out by

15:14

yes, the deep state over and over and over

15:16

again, they get rolled so easily,

15:20

especially when his religious

15:22

belief also leads him in the direction

15:25

of wanting to pass both the

15:28

Israel Aid and the Ukrainian AID in

15:30

order to make sure that Israel is getting their dollars

15:32

to keep bombing babies.

15:34

If you guys want an

15:36

inside of you into this. There's a book called Obama's

15:38

Wars by Bob Woodward. It was written back

15:40

in twenty ten. It's specifically about

15:43

the decision that Obama was forced

15:45

into to do the surge in Afghanistan,

15:47

the way that David Petraeus, Stan McCrystal,

15:51

Mike mullen, and the Joint chiefs of Staff, the

15:53

US Intelligence Community of the CIA

15:55

basically set Obama up for complete

15:57

failure. If he didn't then

16:00

I promise to a surge, and we

16:02

had a chance at that time to actually pull

16:04

out of the country, and instead we escalated

16:06

for that. I highly recommend people read that because

16:09

that is mechanically the exact way

16:11

that you, even as the president, can get set

16:13

up by these people. And tuckers some

16:15

thoughts on that too, by the way, which we'll get a

16:17

little bit in the show, but we

16:19

would be remiss if we didn't highlight a

16:21

little bit of how again, we came to this decision.

16:24

Let's put this police up there on the screen from

16:26

CNN. They confirm it. Quote he was torn

16:29

between having to save his job and do the right thing.

16:31

Congressman Mike McCall said, quote, he

16:33

prayed over it. Prayer

16:36

apparently the way that Speaker Johnson

16:38

arrived at this. Now, let's take a look at the poll,

16:40

shall we, you know, in the ostensible way

16:43

that we live in a democracy. Let's go and put

16:45

this up there on the screen. Here's what we've got

16:47

on Israel. This is April twelfth, twenty twenty

16:49

four. Should more weapons and supplies

16:52

to Israel? Should we send more? Should or

16:54

should not? All should?

16:56

Forty sixty should not?

16:58

Democrats thirty two percent should,

17:00

Sixty eight percent say should not. Independence

17:03

thirty eight percent say should, sixty four

17:05

percent say not.

17:06

Republicans No, not that much difference at all.

17:09

Republicans fifty five percent say should,

17:11

forty five percent say they should not. And

17:13

what's also important to keep in mind

17:16

for that plus ten is that even

17:18

nearly half of the Republicans are saying

17:20

there we shouldn't send more weapons to Israel. Now,

17:23

in terms of the look

17:25

at the vote, where we actually have the

17:27

amount of military that's being sent to Israel, you

17:30

have some plus sixty

17:32

four members who actually

17:34

end up voting then four the

17:37

actual military eight to Israel in

17:39

no way representative of their

17:41

base. And the exact same thing holds

17:43

true for Ukraine. Let's go and put this up there

17:45

on the screen, and what do we find. This

17:48

is just from the latest poll that happened

17:50

on Ukraine, where we see,

17:52

amongst US adults, only

17:54

twenty seven percent say that we are

17:57

doing too little for Ukraine. Thirty

17:59

three percent say, quote about the right amount, and

18:01

that was prior to the package, and too much

18:03

is now the majoritarian position at thirty

18:05

seven Only Democrats forty four

18:07

percent say we're doing too little. Amongst

18:10

Republicans, fourteen percent say we're

18:12

doing too little, twenty nine percent say about the

18:14

right right about right, and fifty

18:16

five percent say that we are doing too much.

18:18

So, as we can all see very

18:21

clearly, the Republicans were a majority

18:23

of the Republicans in the House of Representatives voted

18:25

against Ukraine aid, were rolled by

18:27

their speaker to work with Democrats, and basically

18:29

here Democrats just are much

18:31

more willing I guess to ignore some of their base on

18:34

that question, but then work also

18:36

with Republicans who overwhelmingly voted

18:38

for the Israeli. So you have two

18:41

parties basically behold into two foreign

18:43

nations. Loyalty, try

18:45

loyalty, I guess across all of

18:47

this and work in tandem

18:50

to make this push to the United States Senate,

18:52

where tomorrow on Tuesday, it's

18:54

almost certainly going to become the law of

18:56

the land. And they're already salivating

18:59

at the Pentagon over shipping

19:01

long range weapons to Ukraine,

19:03

long range weapons in US stockpiles,

19:06

long range weapons which will be used to strike

19:08

inside of Russian territory or the crimean

19:11

grid bridge.

19:11

And who do you think is going to bear the cost of that?

19:14

It's the United States of America if Ukraine

19:16

gets itself in a bigger conflagration.

19:18

So let me ask you a question, Sager, because

19:20

I am a little conflicted about how to

19:22

think about this. So, as you just pointed

19:24

out, you know, the Democratic base is first

19:27

of all, they've been overwhelmingly in favor of a ceasefire.

19:29

A majority of Joe Biden voters say yes, this is

19:31

a genocide, and they are overwhelmingly

19:34

opposed to shipping more military

19:36

aid to Israel. Certainly,

19:38

the numbers of Democrats in the House that

19:41

voted against this Israel aid package

19:44

do not reflect the sentiment of

19:46

the base. So that's on the one hand.

19:48

On the other hand, compared

19:50

to previous aid military

19:53

aid to Israel, thirty seven

19:56

voting. Thirty seven Democrats specifically

19:58

voting against it is a significantly

20:01

higher number than previously.

20:03

I think the last time there was a question about like replenishing

20:05

Iron Dome, sending a billion dollars for that, I was like nine

20:08

Democrats who voted against it. So

20:11

how do you look at that? And especially when

20:13

there were you know, it wasn't just like AOC

20:15

and ilhan Omar. You had a number

20:17

of longtime members who are

20:20

in leadership positions who even voted

20:22

against that. So how do you think about that?

20:24

I think exactly what I do in Ukraine doesn't

20:26

matter.

20:27

The majority of Republicans, the party in power

20:29

in House of Representatives voted against

20:31

A to Ukraine.

20:33

Didn't matter. The speaker wanted it,

20:35

so do the Democrats. It doesn't

20:37

like our We could have a.

20:38

Majority Democrats who are going to oppose

20:40

Israel and they would still find a way to make it pass.

20:43

That's what you should take away from this is like party

20:45

politics does not matter when the uniparty actually

20:47

wants something. It only matters whenever we're talking

20:49

about mortgage rates or housing assistants

20:52

or basically anything that would actually

20:54

help any of us. If they wanted to

20:56

get it done. They will get it done. The

20:59

majority of the American public thinks we're doing too much

21:01

for Ukraine, and that was before the sixty

21:03

billion dollars that we just shipped over there.

21:06

The vast majority of Republicans

21:08

say and oppose this military

21:10

aid for Ukraine.

21:12

It doesn't matter, you know. Trump can bamboozle

21:14

them. Danglo will stop the steal in.

21:16

Front of their eyes, and they'll forget whenever

21:18

it comes to election day. Aside for

21:20

some young people, most people are going to vote on abortion,

21:22

and most people are not going to are going to remember that, are

21:24

not going to remember this whenever it comes time to the

21:27

ballot box. I already saw a clip of AOC I think

21:30

with Mehdi Hassen and he was like, what do you say to

21:32

somebody who is not going to vote for Biden? Yeah,

21:34

And she's like, well, I am on the side of democracy,

21:36

you know, not only here but across the world.

21:38

I'm like, okay, all right, cool, I mean, there's just

21:41

nothing that will ever happen where you're not going to

21:43

vote against the Republicans. Most Republicans

21:45

vote exactly the same way on the margins.

21:47

There may be some but at the end of the day, they

21:49

can stablish. They don't even stablish in the back, they stablish

21:51

in the front, and they twist the knife and then they they

21:54

give the you know, the knife over to us, and

21:56

then they accuse you of being the one who's

21:58

in the wrong, and they're like, why are you committing

22:01

violence when all this is happening, Yeah,

22:03

which is why you have to go and vote in order to bandit yourself

22:05

up.

22:05

I do think there's a bit of a warning sign here though, for

22:08

Israel on the other hand, because you

22:10

know, there used to be this

22:13

total lockstep uniformity

22:16

that no one broke from, and

22:18

that you know, anyone who did knew

22:21

that was going to be the end of their political career.

22:24

And even with a pack that Israel

22:26

lobby threatening to spend one hundred million

22:28

dollars in primaries against

22:30

anyone who even thinks of dissenting,

22:33

even with that kind of firepower

22:36

trained at now you know, all thirty seven of

22:38

these individuals who voted against this funding,

22:41

they still were willing to do it and still

22:43

feel like they'll be able to hold onto their seats and

22:45

that you know that it was worth paying that price, or

22:47

that there's enough energy on the other side

22:49

to make up for the fact that they could

22:51

have that money spent against them. So I

22:54

do think as disheartening

22:57

and depressing as this is, there is a bit of a

22:59

warning sign here for Israel and

23:01

that they just don't have quite the lockstep

23:04

control that they once did.

23:05

I don't disagree.

23:06

I think twenty five thirty years from now, you're

23:08

right. Yeah again, I just point to Ukraine.

23:11

You can lose the public and they'll

23:13

still get it done for you. So in the near term,

23:15

folks, sign up, because if

23:17

it's up to these people, we would die for

23:19

foreign countries before we would ever die,

23:22

you know, for any of our own interests. And that

23:24

is the clearest takeaway that we have. I

23:28

would be remiss if I didn't leave

23:31

out President Donald Trump's role

23:33

in making sure that this Ukraine aid

23:35

actually happened. There's been a lot of you

23:38

know, papering over by the magabase

23:41

as to how exactly Trump went from

23:43

a guy who spoke again a four

23:45

Ukrainian peace, remember in the famous

23:48

CNN moment on the town hall when he said,

23:50

I'm for you know, stopping the dying.

23:52

I want to find peace.

23:53

I would have peace there in a second, the

23:56

democratic liberal media is like, oh,

23:58

well he would pull money away from Ukraine

24:00

on day one. Well, you know, he also was the one who shipped

24:02

a lot of lethle aid to Ukraine back in twenty

24:04

fifteen. But Mike Johnson and others

24:07

and Lindsey Graham basically convinced Trump

24:09

to endorse some bs lend lease

24:11

loan program to the most corrupt and poor

24:13

nation.

24:14

In all of Europe.

24:15

And let's not forget Lindsey

24:17

Graham here now saying that it was Trump.

24:20

Trump himself is the one responsible

24:22

for getting this through the House. Let's take a lisson.

24:24

So, with all due respect to Senator

24:26

Events, he's wrong. We

24:28

were told within four days Key

24:31

would fall.

24:31

But is he wrong about the math? Yea. Is

24:34

he wrong about the production?

24:35

Yeah, he's wrong the whole concept

24:38

that we can't deal with multiple

24:40

problems. In World War Two, we fought

24:43

the Germans and the Japanese. We

24:45

have an industrial base that needs to be retooled.

24:48

But the Ukrainian military,

24:50

with our help, has killed about

24:53

fifty percent of the combat power of the Russians.

24:55

If you pull the plug on Ukraine, Coach, you

24:57

don't have enough capability. There goes

25:00

Taiwan. Ukrainians are fighting

25:02

like tigers. This aid package has

25:04

a loan component to it. This would

25:06

not have passed without Donald Trump. I

25:09

want to thank the House Speaker and the King

25:11

Jeffrey's working together in a bipartisan

25:13

fashion to give weapons to Ukraine

25:16

to buy to fight that matters to us and prosident

25:18

Trump has created a loan component

25:21

to this package. It gives us leverage down the

25:23

road. So this idea that we can't help

25:25

U Traine, Israel and Taiwan

25:27

at the same time, I reject

25:29

that.

25:30

I want to thank President Trump for

25:32

making this to go through it now. Listen,

25:34

According to MAGA Defenders, Crystal, Trump

25:37

has been bamboos.

25:38

Trump can Trump cannot fail. It can only

25:40

be failing.

25:40

And so if Lindsey Graham went down and

25:42

look, Trump is an idiot, like, let's be honest on policy,

25:45

just doesn't care, it doesn't care about He cares about basically

25:47

one thing, trade and I may be immigration on

25:49

depending on the day. And so when Lindsay

25:51

Graham goes down there and he's.

25:52

Like it be alone, it wouldn't be giving it to them.

25:55

Trump's like, wow, alone, Well, that's

25:57

great as a businessman, and

25:59

so what do they do. They write in some bullshit

26:01

loan into the text, and then they

26:03

don't tell you that Biden is the president after

26:05

he signs it.

26:06

Oh, and he can just forgive the entire loan.

26:07

Oh and by the way, the loan is interest free and it has

26:10

an indefinite period on when you supposedly

26:12

get paid back. And so is it alone

26:14

if there's no enforcement terms and there's

26:16

no interest, or is it a gift. It's a

26:18

gift, that's what's happening here. And so

26:21

it's a complete fake out. And so Trump

26:23

is there's two options. Trump is either too dumb

26:25

to know the difference between a fake loan and

26:27

a real loan and then allow himself to get

26:29

bamboozled, or he supports

26:32

shipping weapons to Ukraine.

26:34

Either has the same net effect to me. So

26:36

I don't care. So it's Trump's fault that this is

26:39

all went through.

26:39

Yeah, And of course Republican voters they're like

26:42

freaking sheep, you know, they're just gonna sit there

26:44

and eat the grab bo, like, oh, it's so terrible with

26:46

the liberal media is saying about mister

26:48

Trump here, It's like, no, this is on Trump.

26:50

Lindsey Graham ate the rhino. Trump

26:53

is the one who decided to let it pass. So let's

26:55

all just be real clear why it's gonna happen. If Trump gets

26:57

reelected, who does he actually listen to

27:00

And is he still you know, so dumb to

27:02

be able to allow himself to be fooled. And if you are fine

27:04

with that, cool, but just be real honest

27:06

about what your voting.

27:07

Yeah, the hope. Consistently,

27:10

whenever Trump goes against

27:12

what, you know, what he promised the base,

27:15

it's always, oh, it's not his fault and the versisioner's

27:17

fault. It's this person that's a deep state, it says,

27:19

it's that like, this is an adult

27:22

man who was president of the United

27:24

States at some point he

27:26

has to be responsible for his own actions.

27:28

And you know, so Marjorie Taylor Green,

27:31

she was against all of this, and she's been

27:33

very you know, unspoken, et cetera, et cetera,

27:35

and on this I'm actually, you know, on the same

27:37

side of her, But she

27:40

never points the finger at

27:42

Donald Trump and his culpability here. That's

27:45

somehow left out of her analysis.

27:47

When yeah, you got Lindsey Graham there on TV

27:49

saying listen, I want to thank Mike Johnson, Hakeem

27:52

Jefferies, and Donald

27:54

Trump. Wouldn't happened without Trump, And

27:56

somehow that gets left out of

27:59

the critique hear from those on the Republican

28:01

side who are making.

28:01

A critiqus genius.

28:02

And again we have the evidence that

28:05

Trump endorsed it, because he literally

28:07

went to Mike Johnson, went down to Marlago,

28:09

did a joint press conference with Donald Trump

28:12

where Trump endorses on tape the

28:14

so called loan idea.

28:15

Let's take a lesson.

28:16

They're talking about it, and we're thinking about

28:18

making it in the form of a loan instead of just a

28:20

gift. We keep handing out gifts of billions

28:23

and billions of dollars, and we'll take a look at

28:25

it. But much more importantly to me is

28:27

the fact that Europe has to step up and they have to give

28:29

money. They have to equalize. If they

28:31

don't equalize, I'm very upset about it

28:33

because they're affected much more than we are. The

28:35

Ukraine situation would have never happened if ice

28:38

president would have never ever happened.

28:40

And everybody says that, including Democrats,

28:43

that it happened to such an outrage people,

28:45

millions of people are dead right now, both

28:47

sides. Millions of people are dead.

28:49

People keep pointing to that as if it's some evidence

28:51

for why he's changed his position. No, okay,

28:54

I agree with him on Europe. It doesn't matter. That's

28:57

not what you said. What matters is that you endorse

28:59

the loan. Now, for example, Matt Gates and others

29:01

were trying to claim that what we're about

29:03

to show you was a Trump saying he was

29:05

against the bill. Let's put this up there on the screen.

29:08

He says, why is in Europe giving more money to help Ukraine?

29:10

Why is it the United States is over one hundred million dollars

29:12

into the war and we have an ocean between us in a

29:14

separation. Why can't Europe equalize? Blah blah

29:16

blah blah blah. As everyone

29:18

agrees, Ukrainian survival

29:20

and strength should be much more important to

29:23

Europe than us, but it is also important

29:25

to us.

29:25

Oh, it is also important

29:27

to us. Now.

29:28

The only thing that he's even slightly critical of

29:30

is when he says, I am the only one who speaks for me,

29:33

and while it's a total mess caused by crooked

29:35

Joe Biden, blah blah blah, if I were president of this war

29:37

would have never started. That was because Mike Johnson

29:39

was going all over Washington saying, hey, if

29:41

you don't support this bill, then you're against President

29:44

Trump.

29:44

But he didn't come out against the bill. So

29:47

look, let's be very clear.

29:48

Trump came out very clear, very

29:50

very clearly against the Border aid

29:53

the border deal previously, and he

29:55

killed it, right, So he also came out

29:57

against Faiza, and he killed that.

29:59

Whenever you killed the vote. He had the.

30:02

Full capacity to kill this bill if he

30:04

wanted to, and he didn't, which means

30:06

he's responsible for letting this pass. He

30:08

endorsed it, and now he should bear

30:10

the consequences, just like Joe Biden does

30:13

whenever and whenever he's president to we

30:15

should not expect anything else from him.

30:17

Yeah, and please spare me the whole Like Donald Trump

30:19

is the anti war candidate, bullshit, There is

30:22

no anti war candidate in terms

30:24

of Biden and Trump or in terms of

30:26

RFK Junior. You could look at Jill Stein Cornell

30:28

West, but you know, likelihood

30:31

is that they're going to have a relatively minimal

30:33

impact, you know, with regards

30:36

to the comments about Europe. Also Michael

30:39

Tracy, who shout out to him, He's always

30:41

does a great job actually reading through these bills

30:43

and pulling out the important pieces and you

30:45

know, outlining some of these key bipartisan

30:48

dynamics. But you know, calling for

30:50

Europe to spend more on NATO or

30:52

calling for Europe to spend more on Ukraine

30:55

isn't a position in favor

30:57

of, you know, stepping away from NATO or step

31:00

away from Ukraine and trying to bring that war

31:02

to a close. It's a position in favor

31:04

of more funding. So he's not

31:06

saying we don't we shouldn't fund it, we should move

31:08

forward. He's saying, we obviously

31:10

we're going to continue funding it. We just want the

31:12

Europeans to also fund it additional

31:15

amounts. So, you know,

31:17

being hard on Europe is actually not consistent

31:21

with a position in favor

31:23

of we need to be looking for an

31:25

offer, if we need to be looking for some sort of a diplomatic

31:27

conclusion to this. And you know, I

31:30

will with regard to Ukraine, I'll just I'll

31:32

never be over the fact that we

31:34

undercut those original diplomatic

31:37

negotiations because now it

31:39

is in nowheresville. You

31:42

know, now the deal that they would get would be far

31:44

inferior. You know, now there is no real

31:47

negotiating leverage for Putin

31:49

and the Russia. At that point, they were on the back foot.

31:51

Things hadn't gone the way that they planned.

31:53

It didn't look good, so it would

31:55

have been a much stronger negotiating position. Now

31:58

it's just an endless mess.

32:01

And that's the approach they're taking to it is, let's just

32:03

continue to fund this. We don't need

32:05

a plan to conclude it. We're just going to

32:07

continue sending an entire you know, multiple

32:10

generations of Ukrainian men to the slaughter.

32:12

And then obviously, you know, with regard to Israel,

32:15

it's just a horror. It's just a horror. It's

32:17

an indefensible horror. The

32:19

last thing I want to make sure to mention, which it's

32:21

incredible, This isn't even really in the show

32:23

today, but you know, this whole escalation

32:26

with a run, which I think was very intentionally

32:28

timed as well, is part

32:30

of how the Israel Aid was able

32:32

to sail through as well, because

32:34

guess what, you know, suddenly, because

32:37

Israel starts this provocation by assassinating

32:40

top Iranian commanders at

32:43

their consulate building, which

32:45

is you know, a dramatic contravention

32:47

of the Vienna Convention, international law,

32:49

et cetera. They do that Irat and

32:51

response Israel's responding. Nothing

32:54

gets the bipartisan consensus

32:56

going more quickly than one

32:58

of the official bad guys nations, you

33:01

know, going after our big ally

33:03

in the Middle East. So when

33:05

we're talking about that, we're not talking about the suffering

33:07

and gods, we're not talking about the World Central Kitchen

33:09

Aid workers who were just massacred. We're

33:11

not talking about the apparently imminent

33:14

ground invasion of Rafa, which we'll get

33:16

to in just a bit. And so that's also

33:19

part of the cover that was provided

33:21

that allows this aid to sail through as well.

33:23

Yes, very well said.

33:26

So let's move on to some updates out of Israel.

33:29

So the US has

33:31

claimed, especially under Joe

33:33

Biden, that we support a two

33:36

state solution ultimately to

33:38

the Israel Palestine conflict.

33:41

So you might think that they would be in

33:43

favor of a UN Security

33:45

Council vote for Palestinian

33:47

statehood.

33:48

You would be wrong.

33:50

The US vetoed Palestinian

33:52

statehood recognition in the Security Council.

33:54

Let's seek a listen to how the State Department spins

33:57

these two very contradictory, apparently

34:00

positions.

34:00

How are you guys going to vote

34:03

so, Matt. Since October

34:06

seventh, we have been pretty clear that

34:08

sustainable peace in the region can only

34:11

be achieved through a two state

34:13

solution with Israel's

34:15

security guaranteed, and it remains

34:18

our view that the most expeditious path

34:20

towards statehood for

34:23

the Palestinian people is through direct

34:25

negotiations between Israel and

34:27

the Palestinian authority, with the support

34:29

of the United States and other partners

34:31

who share this goal. We believe

34:34

this approach cantangibly advanced Palestinian

34:36

goals in a meaningful and enduring way. We

34:38

also have been very clear consistently

34:41

that premature actions in New York, even

34:43

with the best intentions, will

34:45

not achieve statehood for the Palestinian

34:47

people. Additionally, as

34:50

reflected in the report of

34:52

the Admission Committee, there was not unimidity

34:55

among the committee members as to whether

34:58

the applicant met the criteria

35:00

of membership set forth in Article

35:03

four of the UN Charter. Specifically, there

35:05

are unresolved questions as to whether the

35:07

applicants can meet criteria to be considered

35:10

as a state, and Matt, as you

35:12

also know, We've long called on the Palestine

35:14

authority to undertake necessary reforms

35:17

to establish the

35:19

attributes of readiness for statehood. And

35:21

note that Hamas, which is, as

35:23

you all know, a terrorist organization, is currently

35:26

exerting power and influence in Gaza,

35:28

which would be an integral part of

35:30

the envisioned state in this resolution,

35:33

and for that reason, the United States is

35:35

voting no on this proposed

35:37

Security Council revolution. As an expert

35:40

of the UN, I will also I will

35:42

also just so note that,

35:45

due to statutory requirements, such

35:48

an admission of statehood would also require

35:50

the United States to cease its funding

35:53

to the United Nations.

35:54

So you gotta love that mon who says I just googled

35:56

expeditions how many years since Oslow.

36:00

It's just such a farce at this point and

36:03

the way this went down,

36:05

so we vetoed this resolution. There

36:07

were twelve who voted in favor. The US

36:10

was opposed alone by the way,

36:12

and there were two abstentions, UK and

36:14

Switzerland. Notably US allies,

36:17

France, Japan, and South Korea all supported

36:19

the resolution. Ken Klippenstein

36:22

and Daniel bogoslaw Over at the Intercept had some

36:24

good reporting about some of the diplomatic

36:26

pressure that was being applied in advance

36:29

of this vote. Can put this up on the screen.

36:32

By the way, though it doesn't appear that this diplomatic

36:34

pressure was very successful, since there were

36:36

no other votes against, only

36:39

two abstentions and a number of US allies

36:41

that actually voted in favor of Palestinian

36:44

statehood. The headline here leaked cables

36:46

show White House opposes Palestinian

36:48

statehood despite Button's pledges supported two state

36:51

solution. Cables argued that Palestine should not

36:53

be granted UN member

36:55

status. They put

36:57

pressure in particular on Ecuador, which

37:00

is the rotating member

37:02

on the UN Security Council,

37:05

and they said in language very

37:07

similar to what you heard there from the State Department.

37:09

Goal.

37:10

It remains the US view that the most expeditious

37:13

path toward a political horizon for the Palestinian

37:15

people is in the context of a normalization agreement

37:17

between Israel and its neighbors. We believe

37:19

this approach can tangibly advanced Palestining

37:21

goals in a meaningful and enduring way.

37:24

So expeditious approach, in

37:26

spite of the fact that this quote unquote

37:28

expeditious approach has been attempted

37:31

for decades at this point

37:33

with no conclusion.

37:34

So there you go.

37:35

Okay, all right, very interesting,

37:37

and this is part of why the entire thing

37:40

is ridiculous and why Matt Lee really

37:42

just underscored it. Where what is our policy

37:45

for this war and for this goverment. We keep

37:47

saying that the end result of this war has to

37:49

be a two state solution. It's like, well,

37:52

okay, which one West Bank

37:54

is going to have a like the Palestinian authority,

37:56

which barely has any authority, They're

37:59

going to be the one who have representation

38:01

in the United Nations. These people if

38:04

we are to give them a nation or to recognize

38:06

a nation, to recognize a false

38:08

nation with a false government that has no actual

38:10

public support, in my opinion, would be ten times

38:13

worse. Like, if we're going to do this, then

38:15

we actually have to do it, and it's obviously going

38:17

to have to include Gaza as well, and we

38:19

will have to ensure actual security

38:21

conditions and some sort of public expression.

38:24

Otherwise this entire.

38:25

Thing is completely meaningless and it will

38:27

fall apart and we will have somewhat one

38:29

Guido situation. Yeah, in Venezuela,

38:32

with nonsense that the United Nations.

38:35

Always puts the burden and the problems

38:37

on the Palestinian side when you have

38:39

BB out there on the regular like,

38:41

I will make sure that we thwart

38:44

ever having a two state solution that

38:46

somehow never gets mentioned in any

38:49

of this as the obstacles

38:51

to peace in the situation. We

38:53

got some more news on the State

38:55

Department. Let's put this up on the screen. The US is going

38:58

to sanction one specific IDF

39:00

unit for human rights violations

39:03

in the West Bank. This is pursuant

39:05

to that we covered this last week, this pro public

39:08

report that Tony Blincoln had been

39:10

sitting with a report from the

39:12

State Department panel that

39:15

is meant to look into human rights abuses that

39:17

found a number of IDF

39:19

units and Israeli police units that

39:22

had engaged in horrific human

39:24

rights violations torture, rape, other

39:27

abuses. And so I guess, under

39:29

pressure, they've decided to do this

39:31

sort of really truly symbolic sanctioning

39:33

of this one unit. I'll read this to you. It says US Secretary

39:36

of State Tony Blincoln expected to within

39:38

days announce sanctions against the IDF's

39:40

Netsa Yehuda battalion for

39:43

human rights violations in the occupied West Bank.

39:45

Why it matters, it would be the first time the US imposed

39:47

sanctions on Israeli military unit. They

39:49

will ban the battalion's members from receiving any

39:51

kind of US military assistance or training.

39:54

And this particular battalion, they say, was formed

39:56

as a special unit for ultra orthodox soldiers.

39:59

All of its members are men, and

40:01

it's kind of known for having a lot of

40:03

radicals involved. You've had a lot of

40:05

the quote unquote hilltop youth. These

40:07

are these young, radical, right wing, often

40:10

violent settlers who weren't accepted

40:12

into any other combat unit in the IDF.

40:15

They're in this battalion. One specific

40:17

incident that's been documented was the death of

40:19

an eighty year old Palestinian American

40:21

Omar Asad, in January twenty

40:23

twenty two. He was arrested by

40:25

Netsa Yehudah soldiers at a checkpoint

40:28

in his village in the West Bank late at night. He refused

40:30

to be checked, so soldiers handcuffed

40:32

and gagged him, an eighty year old, and

40:35

left him on the ground in the cold, and predictably

40:38

he died. So, you

40:40

know, my read is that these sanctions

40:43

are totally meaningless. It's similar to the you

40:45

know four Israeli settlers who were sanctioned

40:47

previously by the Biden Administration's attempt

40:49

to sort of like pretend like they're serious about

40:52

violence against Palestinians. But what kind

40:54

of checks are in places? We're shipping billions of dollars

40:56

to Israel to make sure this battalion

40:58

doesn't benefit from any of it. Nevertheless,

41:01

there's an all of government freak out

41:03

on the Israeli side about this tiniest

41:06

of sanctions for documented human rights

41:08

abuses. Let's put this up on the screen from Phoebe,

41:11

he says, And this is the Google

41:13

Translate version, by the way, So if there's

41:15

any like slate mistranslations, that's why

41:17

sanctions must not be imposed

41:20

on the IDF. In recent weeks, I've been working

41:22

against the imposition of sanctions on Israeli citizens,

41:24

including in my conversations with senior American government

41:26

officials. At a time when our soldiers

41:28

are fighting the monsters of terror,

41:31

the intention to impose a sanction on a unit

41:33

in the IDF is the height of absurdity and

41:35

a moral low. The government, headed

41:37

by me will act by all means

41:39

against these moves. There was

41:41

also a statement from Benny Gantz. Lest

41:44

you think that they're not on the same page on many

41:46

things, they mostly are. So what

41:48

do you make of all that? Sager?

41:49

Yeah, I mean I just think the entire thing is ridiculous

41:51

because we're trying to single out some unit

41:53

in the IDF based on or in

41:56

the West Bank, which is right, this is all.

41:57

The other problem is that we try and split apart.

42:00

GE's what I was talking about West Bank from Gaza

42:02

as if it's not the same military that's involved in all

42:04

this, and it's not all part of the same policy,

42:06

So what is the question, what are we going to do?

42:08

Do we actually And at the same

42:10

time, I would almost rather not

42:12

do something like this because then it just heightens

42:15

the contradiction of sending billions

42:17

of dollars to the IDEF and through the Israeli military.

42:19

If they're going to only continue to fund

42:22

said IDF unit and there's no enforcement

42:24

mechanism, then what is the point of

42:26

this entire thing?

42:27

It just views it. It makes it even more impotent

42:30

than previously.

42:31

If you give somebody money when you acknowledge that they're

42:33

a criminal, it's almost worse than just lying

42:35

to everybody.

42:36

Well, yeah, it's a perfect

42:38

way to pretend like

42:40

the problem is in a whole of government

42:43

policy, that it's a few

42:45

bad apples, it's a few violent settlers,

42:48

it's this one particular

42:50

battalion that has a lot of hilltop use, rather

42:53

than I mean, we saw the first of all,

42:55

you see the utter annihilation in Gaza. You

42:57

see the Where's Daddy software program

43:00

looking to target families, children,

43:03

women, waiting for militants to go

43:05

home before you target

43:07

them. We see the AI algorithmic

43:10

generation. Overall, we see

43:12

the announcement of a complete siege,

43:15

starving a population of millions,

43:17

in some cases to death. Okay,

43:20

And then we pretend like, oh, it's these few bad

43:22

apples and we're very concerned about it, and we're going to sanction

43:24

them. So it serves the Biden administration's

43:27

interest. Frankly, I think it also serves Bebe's

43:29

interests. I just we didn't just didn't make it in the poll because

43:31

there's so much other stuff to cover. But apparently

43:34

Bibe's political standing in Israel in

43:36

the context of post October seventh was number

43:38

was stronger. Poll numbers are coming up. You

43:41

know, he's basically neck and neck

43:43

now with his primary opponent as previously he

43:45

was losing in a landslide, and I think

43:47

that these little, you know, pretend

43:50

fights between him, just

43:52

theatrical fights between him and Biden,

43:54

where he gets to stand tough and

43:56

effectively humiliate Joe Biden by the

43:58

way, over and over and over again. I

44:01

think those have served his domestic political

44:03

standing. So congratulations everyone, Your little

44:05

Kaboki theater here is working out perfectly for the nt

44:07

YAHOO government.

44:08

I think that bb and Zelenski are similar.

44:10

Their only authority to

44:12

the eyes of the public is their ability to builk

44:14

the United States for billions. So as long

44:17

as they are able to continue

44:19

to have the US security establishment

44:21

at fund your war, then your position

44:24

as like the grifter in charge is

44:27

cemented. Now, if he genuinely

44:29

was failing in that regard, then yeah,

44:31

you know, people would be able to come against him. But he's

44:34

able very masterfully to play against

44:36

America and also keep the handout and take

44:38

the dollars.

44:39

That's a very difficult balancing.

44:40

Act, one which he is on tape admitting

44:42

he's very good at saying what America

44:44

is very easy I know to who.

44:46

Can deny it?

44:47

He says it?

44:47

Who can deny it? Yeah? No,

44:49

that's right.

44:50

He can.

44:51

On the one hand, you know, act all outraged

44:53

on Twitter about this like totally meaningless

44:56

sanction reportedly being issued by

44:58

the State Department on the They're going to do whatever

45:00

the hell he wants, bomb American

45:03

and American aid worker, bomb

45:06

is bomb Iran when we begged

45:09

him reportedly not to hospitals.

45:12

Whatever. He can do whatever he wants,

45:14

and there's still you know, a

45:16

whole of government effort here to make sure that he

45:19

gets his billions in whatever he wants moving

45:21

forward. Yes, so yeah, he's

45:24

playing his hand masterfully. And

45:27

the Biden policy bear

45:29

of bear hugging BBNT,

45:31

Yahoo has been such an object

45:34

failure it is hard to wrap your head

45:36

around on every level. Every

45:39

time they set out like well, we don't want Israel to

45:41

do this, Israel does it, and then there's

45:43

no accountability and American

45:45

lives are put more at risk and more Gazan's

45:48

house, that means of Gaza are completely slaughtered.

45:51

So just an utter and complete

45:53

failure from the Biden administration.

45:56

It all just plays right into Bibi's

45:58

hands. There was an interesting report

46:00

though that I wanted to share with you guys.

46:02

Make of it what you will, So put this up on the screen.

46:05

This is a report from Times of Israel

46:08

that the Prime Minister's Office PMO

46:11

had held an emergency debate

46:14

amid fears that the ICC that's

46:16

the International Criminal Court at the Hague, could

46:18

issue arrest warrants for the

46:20

Prime Minister and others over

46:22

alleged crimes in Gaza. This is

46:24

based on a report on Israeli

46:27

Channel twelve, so it says they're increasingly

46:29

worried about this. Three

46:31

ministers and several government legal experts

46:33

heard this emergency discussion on how they

46:35

could potentially fend off the

46:38

feared imminent issuing of such arrest

46:40

warrants. They are

46:42

pointing to some of the countries that have been very

46:44

critical of Israeli atrocities

46:47

in Gaza's strip are sort of leading the push

46:49

here. Jerusalem is also try

46:51

to apply pressure, whatever diplomatic pressure

46:53

they can, you know, under the radar, to

46:55

try to avoid this eventuality.

46:58

And not only did they and this was no worthy

47:00

to meet again, according to this Israeli TV

47:02

report, Make of it what you will. Apparently,

47:05

he also raised this concern in

47:07

his meetings last week with Britain's

47:09

Foreign Secretary David Cameron in Germany's

47:11

foreign minister and Aleeda bare

47:14

Baka. Is that how you say that we'll go let's go

47:16

with it. Yeah, we'll go with that. So it

47:18

was a significant enough concern reportedly

47:21

that he's raising it with them. Now what does this mean.

47:23

Listen, It's not like the ICC can come to Israel

47:25

and arrest him, throw them and you know

47:28

it and being a dock in the Hague. But

47:31

you know, it's another step on the global

47:33

parias status. It

47:36

could be very influential in terms

47:38

of global opinion, makes

47:40

them more difficult for you know, the US enablers

47:43

to support the things that he's doing. And

47:45

also it really constrains your freedom because

47:47

now you can't go to one of the countries in the

47:49

world where they, you know, do

47:51

support the ICC actions because

47:53

you could actually get arrested if you set foot in

47:55

one of those countries.

47:56

Yeah, I mean no, that's the actually the biggest I mean, there's

47:59

there's a couple of ways, and look at this is one is

48:01

like, do I think he's actually gonna get arrested.

48:02

No, but does it at least put

48:04

pressure on the government. Yes.

48:07

The other option is that we will just see the ICC,

48:09

you know, signatory fall apart because you would

48:11

travel to a party nation and they won't comply

48:14

with it.

48:14

We'll see, you know exactly how that all

48:16

plays out.

48:17

But regardless, again, this is just a

48:19

core theme of like all of our discussion, is

48:21

that in the interim, things are going in

48:23

Israel's way, but in the long term,

48:25

twenty thirty years from now, there certainly

48:28

are not.

48:28

And this is another example. Don't

48:30

even take my word for it.

48:32

You've all knowah Harari, who I've got some issues

48:34

with, but he wrote the famous book Sapiens.

48:36

He's the Israeli not really a scientist.

48:38

Whatever we can it's a separate conversation. He

48:41

wrote an excellent piece. I recommend everybody

48:43

go and read in Heartz where he makes this exact

48:45

same point, because he himself is kind of a

48:47

chief arch globalist.

48:48

And he's like, we have a real problem.

48:50

We have delegitimized ourselves in the eyes of the

48:52

entire world, and for decades now we will

48:54

have problems both diplomatically for our citizens

48:57

as they continue and think about living abroad.

48:59

And you know, any idea of legitimacy

49:02

in the eyes of the world has significantly gone

49:04

down.

49:04

And that's just not something that you really move

49:06

away from.

49:07

And I think this is just like tip of the iceberg on that

49:09

broader problem. Regardless of whether it's enforcement

49:11

or not, it almost doesn't matter, you know, for the future

49:14

of what future treat future free trade agreements

49:16

look like, reciprocal tourism, willingness

49:18

to do business, willingness to receive a

49:20

prime minister, and popularly those things

49:22

honestly matter even more to a certain extent

49:25

for the future of Israel and for the nation.

49:27

Look at the way young generations of America.

49:29

Yes, that's right, I've changed everything.

49:30

Yeah, it's going to it's not going

49:32

back, right, Millennials,

49:34

gen z, they're not going to view this the same

49:37

way that boomers and silent gen did.

49:39

It's done. I mean that's we're covering the

49:41

freak out over these Columbia protests and what the hell's

49:43

going on there. The real story on those protests

49:45

is just how overwhelming the sentiment

49:48

among young people is against arming

49:50

Israel, against you know, their their view and

49:52

mind. And the ICJ finds

49:54

it plausible that they're committing genocide with

49:57

our tax dollars, by the way, helping

49:59

to fund the weapons that are, you

50:01

know, two thousand pound bombs being dropped on refugee

50:04

camps, etc. People

50:06

don't forget this is a formative political

50:08

experience for really millions

50:10

of young Americans. So in terms

50:13

of future generations, I don't think there's

50:15

any put in that toothpaste back in the tube. But unfortunately

50:18

that takes a long time to come to fruition.

50:20

In the meantime, you can see from the numbers

50:23

in the house how slowly things actually change.

50:28

At the same time, we really have our eyes on Rafa,

50:32

the threatened ground invasion there. It

50:34

seems like there are some indications this may

50:36

be more imminent, including a strike

50:39

multiple strikes there. Let's put this up on the screen.

50:42

That happened just a day or so ago. Israeli

50:44

strikes on southern Gaza city of Rafa killed

50:46

twenty two, mostly children. As they

50:48

add US advances AID package. I think

50:50

that's noteworthy that they include that in the

50:53

headline and important they include that in the headline.

50:55

So out of these twenty two people

50:57

who were killed by the IDF in

51:00

Rava, eighteen children,

51:03

three women, one man.

51:06

Eighteen children, three women and one

51:09

man. One of the women who

51:11

was killed was pregnant.

51:14

She was killed. They were able to open

51:18

her up and save the baby,

51:20

thank god, who is now orphaned

51:22

at birth. Horrifying

51:25

situation. And Bibi

51:28

has been sort of promising that

51:30

this Rapha invasion is imminent. He said,

51:32

cryptically, quote in the coming days, we will

51:34

increase the political and military pressure on Hamas

51:37

because this is the only way to bring back our hostages

51:39

and a chief victory. Of course, the only way they've actually

51:41

brought back hostages was through ceasefire agreement.

51:44

But never you mind that. He goes on to say

51:46

we will land more and painful blows

51:48

on Hamas soon, but

51:50

did not give further details about what

51:53

that meant. And that's noteworthy, of course, saw because

51:56

he's been saying, oh, in order to finish the job

51:58

with Hamas, they're all down in Rafa now, so we

52:01

have to we have to do this ground invasion

52:03

of raf Warri of over a million Palestinian sheltering

52:05

right now, including obviously many women

52:08

and children, because that's where Hamas

52:10

is. So when he says we will land more

52:12

and painful blows on Hamas soon, it seems

52:14

to be a reference to an imminent ground invasion

52:17

in Rafa.

52:17

It's very possible, and something that you brought

52:19

up, but I want to spend a lot of time on here

52:22

is this corrupt bargain being reported

52:24

by the Israeli press. Let's go and put this up there on

52:26

the screen, please, where the Times

52:28

of Israel reports very out

52:30

in the open that the US has agreed to

52:33

Israel's plan for Rafa in return

52:35

for not carrying out a large Iran

52:38

strike.

52:39

So what they basically have bargained

52:41

with US.

52:42

Is, hey, we won't have a huge

52:44

retalia historic retaliatory strike

52:46

on Iran which would draw you in if

52:48

you green light at least tacitly

52:51

our Israeli invasion of Rossa. Now, the way

52:53

that we know this is from Egyptian officials

52:55

who are telling news outlets to the quote

52:58

the US has accepted that plan for

53:00

an operation in southern Gaza in return

53:02

for not carrying out that larger strike.

53:04

Now, the reason why this is so important is

53:06

we are watching the weaponization

53:09

here again of the US political system

53:11

and it's rapid desire to go to war for

53:13

Israel, where they are like, hey, we

53:15

won't drag us into a broader war

53:18

over here if you let us do whatever

53:20

we want over here. And I don't think that

53:22

these air strikes are an accident,

53:24

and it actually very elegantly solves

53:27

a problem for beeB to be able to get

53:29

around that. But think again about

53:31

what the blackmail is is that what they

53:33

have on their side is always,

53:36

at any moment, at any time of our

53:38

choosing, we can glow blow up an embassy

53:40

wherever we want, ratchet things up

53:43

over here, which will require you to defend

53:45

us as long as we continue to get to

53:47

do whatever we want over here in Gaza.

53:49

And that belies the fact that whatever happens

53:51

here in Gaza has bleed on effects over

53:54

here, as we have already watched the resumption of

53:56

Iranian proxy strikes on US

53:58

military basis that have happened now after

54:00

that.

54:00

So again American troops.

54:01

Are the ones who pay the cost, as well as of course

54:04

Palestinian civilians.

54:05

Yeah, that's right. I mean, this was Palestinian

54:07

civilians being held hostage and being sacrificed

54:09

in the end to reportedly

54:12

keep Israel from doing a larger strike

54:14

on Iran. And again, according

54:17

to reports, the Biden people begged

54:19

bebe not to do any response to Iran. You

54:21

know, they were saying, listen, take the win. We shut down all

54:23

their stuff nothing really happened with regard

54:25

to their retaliatory attacks here,

54:27

so just take that win and let's move

54:29

on. So they weren't

54:32

able to succeed with that, they're

54:34

obviously not willing to use actual

54:36

leverage to change Israeli behavior,

54:39

So according to this report, they've

54:41

decided to sacrifice the Palestinians

54:43

in Rafa in spite of the fact that this has been

54:45

a long time. You know, Biden

54:48

even used at one point the red line

54:50

with regard to Rafa, but doesn't

54:53

seem to be a red line any longer. And

54:55

I don't think any of us should be surprised if we see this

54:58

attack move forward relatively swiftly.

55:01

Just to give you another sense of how

55:04

untenable the US position

55:06

here is and all of the Biden administration's

55:09

supposed concerns for human rights.

55:11

Pretty remarkable exchange here where

55:14

a State Department spokesperson really

55:16

doesn't want to answer a question about

55:19

whether the Geneva Conventions apply

55:21

to Israel, does his darnedest

55:24

to try to avoid giving a direct

55:26

answer to what should be a very

55:28

simple question that he was asked with seamlessness.

55:31

You're a med monitor. Human Rights monitor

55:33

reports that Israel

55:36

is using drones to

55:39

lure residents and

55:41

then shoot them. They explain

55:44

the sounds of women screaming in babies

55:46

crying were heard late at night on both Sunday

55:48

and Monday. When some of the residents went out

55:51

to investigate and tried to help,

55:53

they were shot at by Israeli

55:55

quadruple quad

55:58

copter drones. The sounds that they heard were

56:00

in fact recordings played by

56:02

the Israeli drones with the intent

56:04

of forcing the camp residents out into the

56:06

streets where they could be easily targeted

56:08

by snipers.

56:11

I've not seen that report, Sam, so I'm

56:13

not gonna comment on it, but broadly

56:16

not relating to this particular circumstance at

56:19

all, because again I haven't seen the report

56:21

and I'm not sure if it's accurate or

56:23

verifiable. At every conversation

56:25

that we have with our partners in Israel, we continue

56:28

to stress the moral and strategic comparative that

56:30

they have to work

56:32

on deconfliction mechanisms and to ensure

56:35

that civilian harm is

56:37

minimized in every which way possible, and

56:39

we'll continue to stress that every way

56:41

we can.

56:41

Will you look at this report, I'm.

56:44

Sure we'll look at this report, Sam, I don't have any

56:46

comment for it on it?

56:47

Right now?

56:47

Do you recognize the Geneva Conventions

56:49

as apply.

56:50

I've answer your questions.

56:51

Now you have evaded it and

56:54

your colleague deceitfully

56:58

responded to it. Could go to Geneva

57:01

Conventions. It's a simple question. Do

57:03

you recognize the Geneva Conventions of applying

57:05

to Gaza?

57:06

When you interrupt me, that's not it's

57:08

not no matter of you. I'm not going to simple

57:10

take additional questions a simple

57:12

question.

57:13

Show ahead.

57:13

You got two questions.

57:14

I totally contra No, I didn't get to.

57:16

You, did you?

57:17

You?

57:17

You asked a question about your report and you asked

57:19

to follow up.

57:20

Please go ahead, and you're refusing

57:22

to answer it.

57:23

Go ahead to do the Geneva Conventions apply

57:25

to Gaza or not everywhere

57:27

on the planet except for the Palestinians.

57:29

Isn't that right? Me?

57:31

I continue to stress everywhere

57:33

and everywhere that international

57:35

and humanitarian law needs to be abided

57:37

by and respected going.

57:38

The Geneva Conventions apply.

57:40

You are now interrupting your colleague.

57:42

Go ahead.

57:42

I'm interrupting you. I'm not interrupting you.

57:44

I'm insisting on an answer to a critical

57:46

question.

57:47

Go ahead doesn't want to answer the question. It's

57:49

very very testy there in

57:52

reply. And yeah, and also with regard

57:54

to the original report, which is disgusting if you

57:56

think about it, like playing sounds of crying

57:58

babies and and when people rush

58:01

out to try to help this, you

58:03

know what they think is a struggling child or infant.

58:05

Then you know, using that to lure them out

58:07

and kill them is like, that's horrifying.

58:11

The last thing we wanted to share with you is that

58:13

some of the tenor of the discourse in

58:16

our in the Gray, our

58:18

great Israeli allies, the way that the

58:20

their assault on Gaza is being discussed.

58:22

I don't know if you guys saw this. There was a picture of Palestinians

58:25

on the beach in Gaza that created

58:27

this whole freak out on

58:30

the Israeli right. There was a discussion

58:32

about this on Israeli television

58:34

and quite a reaction to it. Let's

58:37

take a look at this, and I'll read over the subtitles

58:39

here since this is in Hebrew, gut and put

58:41

it up on the screen, and I say, these people there deserve

58:43

death, a hard death and agonizing death,

58:45

and instead we see them enjoying on the beach, having

58:48

fun. He goes on these

58:50

people. There are no innocent people there in

58:52

the gaza strip none. They voted for hamas,

58:55

they want Hamas, they celebrated, They hand it out

58:57

candies, some of them spat at the body, some

58:59

of them took selfies with our abductees. There are

59:01

no innocence there. And the fact they're now enjoying

59:03

the beach instead of starving, instead of being jerked

59:05

around, instead of

59:07

being severely tormented, instead

59:10

of hiding from shelling, they are enjoying

59:12

the beach. We should have seen a lot more

59:14

revenge, a lot more rivers

59:16

of Gossen's blood. That

59:19

is the commentary on Israeli

59:21

television, right, but please, let's let's talk more

59:23

about a student protester. What a nineteen

59:26

year old might have or might not have said

59:28

at a college protest.

59:29

Yeah.

59:29

At the same time, Trump's trial kicks off today,

59:31

and there were some very dramatic occurrings.

59:35

I guess that happened on Friday when a man

59:37

actually self immolated outside

59:39

of the courthouse.

59:41

It was actually caught live.

59:42

We're not going to show you images of the self immolation

59:44

itself, but there are were some reporters on the scene,

59:47

and this is what it was described like by them.

59:49

Let's take a listen.

59:50

What do you say. We also are seeing active

59:52

shooter and active shooters in the park outside

59:55

of the court. We have seen an arm that has

59:57

been visible that has been engulfed in total

59:59

flames.

1:00:00

There is chaos that is happening.

1:00:01

People are wondering right now if people are

1:00:04

in danger.

1:00:04

I'm looking across the court.

1:00:06

Across the courtyard there is a man racing

1:00:08

to his aid. There's codes coming off to try

1:00:10

to put out the fire. We have members

1:00:12

of security details. NYPD is

1:00:14

rushing to the scene. They are trying to come

1:00:16

now. Officers are on the scene. A fire

1:00:19

extinguisher is right now present being put

1:00:21

on this man to try to put out. People

1:00:23

are climbing over barricade to try to

1:00:25

separate the public to put out the flame

1:00:27

on this man.

1:00:28

He had let himself out in fire.

1:00:29

That was the initial reaction. Obviously it was not an

1:00:32

active shooter. It was a protester.

1:00:35

Appears he's put out a manifesto,

1:00:38

et cetera. It appears to be a sad

1:00:40

and horrible case of mental illness. And

1:00:43

it's often people you know schizophrenia

1:00:46

and others attracted to certain scenarios

1:00:48

like this, he wanted to start quote unquote a

1:00:50

revolution and decided to self emilate

1:00:52

himself outside of the trial. But anything you want

1:00:54

to say on that, Crystal before we move.

1:00:55

On, Yeah, I mean, I just he

1:00:58

did ultimately succumb to

1:01:00

his wounds from self emilation. That reporting

1:01:03

on him is that he had

1:01:06

been prone to some sort of fringe

1:01:08

or conspiratorial beliefs, and then

1:01:10

his mother passed, and according to the people who

1:01:12

are around him, that was really sort of a breaking point.

1:01:15

So there was, you know, immediate

1:01:17

speculation always this about he's

1:01:20

protesting Trump's you know,

1:01:22

legal issues or whatever. It appears

1:01:24

to have had nothing to do with

1:01:27

Trump, Peter Thiel, Crypto,

1:01:29

Jeffrey Epstein, a lot of things were mentioned

1:01:32

in the sub stack, but Trump was not central

1:01:34

to it. So it appears to have been an incredibly

1:01:37

tragic instance of mental

1:01:39

illness.

1:01:39

Yes, it's tragic, trying to get attention, et cetera.

1:01:42

But of course that does not obscure

1:01:44

the fact that there is that trial that is happening today

1:01:46

significant and let's actually go through some

1:01:49

of it. We now, the entire jury has been

1:01:51

seated for the trial. Let's go and put this up there

1:01:53

on the screen. New York Times says, will a

1:01:55

mountain of evidence be enough to convict Trump?

1:01:57

We're going to have the opening statements today in

1:01:59

the people of the State of New York versus Donald

1:02:02

J. Trump, and the case quote seems strong,

1:02:04

but a conviction is far

1:02:06

from assured. Some of the witnesses are

1:02:08

actually very important here. One of them is

1:02:10

David Pecker, who some of you might remember from

1:02:13

the Stormy Daniels days. David Pecker

1:02:15

was the quote tabloid publisher who

1:02:17

had buried the damaging stories about Trump,

1:02:20

the so called pay for play scheme

1:02:22

where catch and kill, where they would buy

1:02:25

incriminating stories on behalf of

1:02:27

Trump and then keep them in the vault under

1:02:29

an NBA before then reporting

1:02:31

it. Other witnesses in the case will include

1:02:34

Hope Hicks, the spokesperson who

1:02:36

tried to spin around this, a witness again

1:02:38

for the prosecution, and then of course

1:02:41

Michael Cohen, who has already pled guilty

1:02:43

and actually served time in prison specifically

1:02:46

around this charge, but on the federal charge

1:02:48

which Trump was never indicted for. So

1:02:50

three of those witnesses very likely to back

1:02:53

up the state's case in

1:02:55

terms of will it be enough to convict

1:02:57

him. Conviction is going to go on

1:03:00

whether they agree with this novel interpretation

1:03:02

of the case and in terms of the law, in

1:03:05

terms of statute of limitations, but

1:03:07

also in terms of how

1:03:09

they view the central

1:03:12

charge around whether it's campaign finance

1:03:14

fraud or whether it was a personal

1:03:16

one or not. And this is, of course, Crystal

1:03:18

been the very beginning from the beginning around

1:03:20

this case. Why eventually

1:03:22

the FEDS decided not to charge Trump,

1:03:25

which said charge around this

1:03:27

because they thought they could plausibly not

1:03:30

argue, at least in a jury to

1:03:32

convict Trump on the campaign finance

1:03:34

fees in particular, which amounts to accounting

1:03:36

fraud in terms of why the state is involved.

1:03:38

Yeah, So just as a reminder, there won't be

1:03:40

cameras in the courtroom, so this all be you know,

1:03:43

after the day's events are concluded, we'll kind

1:03:45

of get a synopsis of whatever was said,

1:03:47

who testified, what happened, what was that in the opening

1:03:49

arguments, etc. It

1:03:52

is noteworthy that you got David Pecker

1:03:54

and Hope Hicks who are testifying,

1:03:56

so they won't have to wholly rely on the testimony

1:03:59

of Michael Cohen, who was you know, convicted

1:04:01

liars. He is not the most reliable

1:04:03

witness, and that is one of the things that the

1:04:06

Trump team are certainly going to you

1:04:09

know, pursue and talk about. Is there's

1:04:11

this one key moment where

1:04:14

Cohen claims that he

1:04:16

and Trump were in dialogue in the White House

1:04:18

and Trump was talking about these payments.

1:04:20

Because this is one of the things that they'll try to claim

1:04:22

is like basically he had no idea that any of this

1:04:24

was going on. So it'll be interesting

1:04:27

not only to see how that you know, that

1:04:29

direct like he said, he said, peace plays now,

1:04:32

but what additional information picks

1:04:35

who was you know, for those of you who don't

1:04:37

recall, who was omnipresent, who was in

1:04:39

a lot of key meetings, who had a lot of time

1:04:42

with Trump and also a long history with him even pre

1:04:44

dating you know, her time

1:04:46

in the White House. And David Packard

1:04:48

now Packer who was the tabloid

1:04:51

publisher National Choir and also had a

1:04:53

long history with Trump. He is able

1:04:55

to testify not just to this

1:04:57

Stormy Daniel's hush money situation,

1:05:00

but to a couple other stories

1:05:03

that he helped Trump to quote

1:05:05

unquote catch and kill, so the idea

1:05:08

being there was another this playboy model

1:05:10

Susan McDougall, who claims she had an affair with Trump.

1:05:12

He purchased her story and then didn't run

1:05:15

it. The other one was this doorman

1:05:17

at the Trump Tower building who claimed this

1:05:20

is apparently not true, but who had claimed that Trump

1:05:22

had a mistress and had the mistress

1:05:24

that had an abortion. Pecker had also

1:05:27

purchased and buried that story

1:05:29

as well. Now with Doormy Daniels, he

1:05:32

didn't do that because she was asking for too much

1:05:34

money. But then he works this is

1:05:36

all the allegations right, and the Trump's team,

1:05:38

they'll have their say. But he works with Michael

1:05:40

Cohen to figure out this workaround to

1:05:42

get this story hushed up, even

1:05:45

though the price was too steep for him

1:05:47

to be able to do with the national enquir So that's

1:05:49

sort of like the heart of this, you

1:05:51

know. On the one hand, in terms of the jury, it's

1:05:54

Manhattan. Not a lot of Trump love in Manhattan.

1:05:56

On the other hand, you had a couple of these jurors who

1:05:58

were ultimately selected, who said at least a few

1:06:00

sort of like more or less favorable

1:06:02

things about Trump, who weren't just out and out Trump Peters,

1:06:05

and you know he only

1:06:07

has to get one person one

1:06:10

right on his side to prevail

1:06:12

here in what would be a very very

1:06:14

significant win. So those are kind

1:06:17

of the contoences.

1:06:17

In the case. I can say, or can you imagine

1:06:20

if it's a hung jury or if you win.

1:06:21

I think that's I think that's very possible.

1:06:23

I think too.

1:06:24

But the media freak

1:06:26

out on that is going to be unbelievable.

1:06:29

Let's go and put this up there on the screen. Because there

1:06:31

was some discussion previously about the jurors. Two

1:06:34

jurors were actually dismissed in a

1:06:36

trial before they eventually all

1:06:38

twelve were seated. It appears

1:06:40

that some of the jurors were

1:06:43

dismissed prospective jurors because of critical

1:06:45

social media posts about Trump. But

1:06:48

the eighteen people who have selected have decided

1:06:50

and have said that they will decide the case

1:06:52

based quote, purely.

1:06:53

On the facts.

1:06:55

Some of them two of them actually expressed

1:06:57

positive feelings about the former press

1:07:00

that are on the jury. Two of those

1:07:02

who were dismissed one There was a

1:07:04

lot of attention around this which we previously had

1:07:07

where a juror with profile

1:07:09

was described by Fox News and by

1:07:11

other media outlets, and she was approached

1:07:13

and she was like, people were asking whether

1:07:16

it was her who was on the jury, and she asked

1:07:18

to be taken off. And other jurors as well

1:07:20

had expressed some feelings around that. It was

1:07:22

just funny, though, Crystal, because Fox and

1:07:25

Jesse Waters in particular was getting to blame.

1:07:27

But if you went and you looked like you could basically

1:07:29

if you know these people, you could guess it. Because

1:07:32

ABC, the New York Times and others had written

1:07:34

similar write ups.

1:07:35

Of all of the jurors who were involved.

1:07:37

I will say I don't know how I feel about that in terms

1:07:39

of recording another because I'm like, Okay, well if

1:07:41

the entire if we're not going to release their names.

1:07:44

But just like for me, it's like, well, an Indian guy who

1:07:46

wears glasses, who those are? YouTube? Oh,

1:07:48

I wonder who it is? Former White House correspondent.

1:07:51

You know, It's it's like either keep it secret

1:07:53

or don't, but don't try and play this weird

1:07:55

mid gram middle ground where we are right now.

1:07:57

That's true. Yeah, I think you could have lease

1:08:00

like they had in there what their news preferences

1:08:03

were, which I thought was interesting the comments

1:08:05

they made about Trump and how they felt

1:08:07

about him. That was interesting. But yeah,

1:08:09

you probably didn't need like the they're a

1:08:11

nurse, How is that really? I don't blame maybe

1:08:13

even like the toplight like okay it's

1:08:16

a female, fine, but drilling

1:08:19

down into a lot of those details.

1:08:20

I will say this, I don't blame the media.

1:08:22

I think that if the law is going to

1:08:24

allow all of this to be published,

1:08:26

then fine.

1:08:27

I don't actually blame them at all.

1:08:29

At the end of the day, it's up to the court to keep

1:08:31

whatever it's people safe or not. But

1:08:34

if the court is going to have rules like

1:08:36

secrecy and all that, then they should at least write them

1:08:38

in a way that makes sense. I will never blame

1:08:40

reporters or journalists from putting out fullsome

1:08:42

amount of information because I figure that I think

1:08:45

that's what they should do.

1:08:45

I will say, in the instance of Jesse Waters

1:08:48

and there was a whole right wing conspiracy

1:08:50

that these were like intentional, like lib

1:08:52

activists were sneaking onto the

1:08:55

jury, which I think there is no

1:08:57

evidence to support that in particular,

1:08:59

but I I feel

1:09:01

bad for these jurors, like whether they're

1:09:04

public now or not, Like

1:09:06

it's very likely to come out who

1:09:09

these individuals are. They're going to

1:09:11

be the center of a firestorm the likes of which

1:09:13

they probably can't even imagine. That few

1:09:15

people really could imagine. It's

1:09:17

going to be an absolute circus. And yeah,

1:09:20

we'll see how, we'll see how it all unfolds.

1:09:22

Uh. With one more piece that I'll let you coo

1:09:24

up. But I just do want to say on the political note,

1:09:26

Yeah, I know we're so used to thinking that nothing matters for Trump.

1:09:29

These are old allocations. As you say, it's all

1:09:31

baked in, and I think those are all like totally

1:09:33

fair and legitimate points. But you

1:09:36

do see his poll numbers right now slipping

1:09:38

a bit. You see Biden now and a lot of national

1:09:41

averages has claimed like a one point

1:09:43

leads. Approval ratings stick up

1:09:45

a little tiny bit. How people are

1:09:48

saying they feel about him on the issues versus

1:09:50

Trump, He's doing a little bit better.

1:09:52

And I do think part of what is dragging Trump

1:09:55

down right now is just him being in the media

1:09:57

now and it being in the context of legal

1:09:59

tr such as this case.

1:10:02

And we also should remember when the first details

1:10:04

of this emerged, like people really

1:10:07

found it pretty gross even

1:10:09

ones who said it may not be illegal,

1:10:11

but it's certainly wrong. So

1:10:14

having those details day after day

1:10:17

in the news, I think that there's

1:10:19

some cope on the Trump right of saying, like,

1:10:21

oh, this persecution is going to guarantee

1:10:23

him the elections. I think that's crazy. Like

1:10:26

bost of the country does not view these things

1:10:28

the way that the Republican base does. I don't think

1:10:30

there's any doubt that the criminal

1:10:33

prosecutions helped him in the context of a

1:10:35

Republican primary. In the context

1:10:37

of a general election, it's a whole different ballgame.

1:10:39

So maybe it's a net neutral,

1:10:42

maybe it doesn't change anything. But

1:10:44

I do not think that this is

1:10:46

going to be a net win for Donald Trump the

1:10:48

way that some of his supporters claim that it will be.

1:10:51

Yeah, I don't think it will be. Oh, I think it would

1:10:53

be a win for him amongst his base.

1:10:55

I think any prosecution on

1:10:57

terms of the public I think this one basically

1:11:00

out and I think the others could be a lot more

1:11:02

significant.

1:11:02

Nonetheless, you know.

1:11:03

Why it's most important is because the judglar is threatening

1:11:05

the throne in jail if he's not there, you know, in

1:11:08

person. But we'll see whether any of that

1:11:10

even materializes. We would be remiss if

1:11:12

we didn't play some liberal fan

1:11:14

fiction which has been making the rounds

1:11:17

about what is it diaper don?

1:11:19

Is that the conspiracy right?

1:11:21

That's what they're claiming, so me might

1:11:23

as touch, which was that it's that liberal

1:11:25

organization that put out all those clips of Joe

1:11:28

Rogan. They have reporters, sources,

1:11:30

according to them, who are inside the courtroom

1:11:33

who claim that Trump's flatulence

1:11:35

is out of control inside

1:11:38

the court according to their well

1:11:40

placed individuals.

1:11:41

Let's take a listen, and I'm hearing from credible

1:11:44

sources who know what's

1:11:46

going on in the courtroom. And what

1:11:48

I'm hearing is is that take

1:11:51

it for what it's worth, but that Donald Trump

1:11:54

is actually farting in the courtroom, and that it's

1:11:56

very stinky around him, it's future

1:11:58

and odor in the courtroom, and that Trump's

1:12:01

lawyers are

1:12:03

like repulsed by the scent and the

1:12:05

smell. And I'm not I'm not just saying

1:12:07

that to be like, oh funny, funny. I'm

1:12:09

actually, you know, we have good sources

1:12:11

there and I'm hearing it from

1:12:14

actual credible people that as

1:12:16

he's kind of falling asleep, he

1:12:18

is actually passing gas and

1:12:21

that his lawyers are really struggling

1:12:24

with the smell.

1:12:25

His lawyers are really struggling with

1:12:28

the smell he's got. These are

1:12:30

credible, credible reports.

1:12:32

I love the sources personally.

1:12:34

Yeah, so this is the

1:12:36

This is also and look we're not chair

1:12:38

picking that clip when I saw

1:12:41

had somewhere around nine million views

1:12:43

on Twitter and had been retweeted some eleven

1:12:45

to twelve thousand times, and of course

1:12:48

like made the rounds across what does

1:12:50

these like occupy Republicans or

1:12:52

you know, all these things like Facebook

1:12:54

boomer pages. So the boomers are

1:12:57

eating this one up. They are really enjoying

1:12:59

the idea of flat or diaper god.

1:13:01

Yeah, so I support this resistance lib

1:13:03

conspiracy personally.

1:13:04

I mean, it is relatively harmless. It

1:13:07

is amusing, I'll tell you that.

1:13:08

But yeah, this is what is capturing the minds, and

1:13:10

there will only be even more of this type of fan

1:13:12

fiction that make the rounds some more that

1:13:14

he finds.

1:13:15

We don't know, it's not true.

1:13:16

That's true, it's not true. It's

1:13:18

got in credible.

1:13:19

Sources, and we might just that.

1:13:25

Let's turn to some slightly more significant news

1:13:27

here. We had a huge victory

1:13:30

for the United Auto Workers specifically, but

1:13:32

the labor movement in general. Coming out

1:13:34

of this Volkswagon plant in Tennessee. So

1:13:36

this was the third time that

1:13:39

workers at this plant had attempted to unionize,

1:13:42

this time with the landscape

1:13:44

quite a bit different and quite a bit more

1:13:46

pro union, the workers prevailed

1:13:49

in historic fashion. Let's

1:13:51

start off by taking a listen to what some

1:13:53

of the workers had to say in their own words courtesy

1:13:56

of more Perfect Union.

1:14:08

Ye so now

1:14:12

I was made the count.

1:14:13

Are you out?

1:14:14

Yea yea yea yea

1:14:18

yes.

1:14:20

You know, many of the talking heads

1:14:22

and abundits have said to

1:14:24

me repeatedly before

1:14:26

we announced this campaign, you

1:14:29

can't win in the South, said,

1:14:35

Southern workers aren't ready for it. They

1:14:40

said, no, you auto Workers didn't.

1:14:42

Have it hit up.

1:14:45

But you all said watch that.

1:14:51

That last person you're listening to there Sean Fame,

1:14:53

the new president of the United

1:14:55

Auto Workers, who has made an aggressive

1:14:58

push non lean Ta Campbell stance,

1:15:00

going out on strike with regard to the Big

1:15:02

Three contract negotiations. But in the wake

1:15:04

of that victory, saying

1:15:07

listen, we're going to organize the South. We're going to

1:15:09

go after foreign automakers. This is basically

1:15:12

not happened successfully before in American

1:15:14

history, and so far it's looking

1:15:16

pretty good for them. Let's go and put the next piece up

1:15:18

on the screen. Was not even

1:15:21

close. Seventy

1:15:23

three percent voted yes,

1:15:25

twenty seven percent voted no. And

1:15:28

again keep in mind, this is a

1:15:30

plant that had voted twice before in twenty seventeen,

1:15:32

I believe, in twenty nineteen, and had

1:15:34

rejected unionization. Now,

1:15:37

with the wins that you saw,

1:15:40

you know, Starbucks, Teamsters,

1:15:42

UAW with a more

1:15:45

favorable climate amongst the public

1:15:47

in favor of unions, with a more favorable National

1:15:49

Labor Relations Board, this time the result

1:15:51

is totally different. And the next

1:15:54

up, they have a vote in mid May down

1:15:56

in Alabama at a Mercedes plant that

1:15:58

apparently they feel good about too. So

1:16:01

it's astonishing, Sager, not just that.

1:16:02

So not only do they have seventy three percent who cast

1:16:05

in favor, but they had eighty four percent voter

1:16:07

participations of the eighty four

1:16:09

percent of the forty three hundred eligible

1:16:11

workers in the plant actually participated.

1:16:14

This is the first vote in the

1:16:16

South, they're saying, the first time a Southern

1:16:18

auto plant outside the three Detroit automakers

1:16:21

has ever been organized by UAW.

1:16:23

This of course makes sense because we have Volkswagen,

1:16:26

BMW, Toyota and all this with a blanketed

1:16:28

across the American South with a lot of manufacturing

1:16:31

jobs and cars that have been

1:16:34

strategically placed there because of right to work laws.

1:16:36

Now, the question is about how that's going to

1:16:38

change from this point forward.

1:16:41

What they the Wall Street Journal even talks here

1:16:43

about that there's less

1:16:45

than four hundred thousand workers last year

1:16:47

who are inside UAW. That is seventy

1:16:49

five percent less than where they were

1:16:52

in the nineteen seventies. So for

1:16:54

them to have wins like this that grow

1:16:56

for the future actually sets up

1:16:58

that we're probably at the low point of

1:17:01

US union membership than ever

1:17:03

before and likely to go up. And

1:17:05

one of the reasons is fun at least to cover this

1:17:07

story. This might be the only rare piece of good news in

1:17:09

our entire show, So we absolutely wanted

1:17:12

to include it.

1:17:13

Yeah, no, no doubt about it. And yeah,

1:17:15

you can see the way the historic winds have changed,

1:17:18

Like there's a huge backlash now against

1:17:21

you know, we saw in COVID how these companies

1:17:23

were screw workers over, they were risking their

1:17:25

lives, they were making money hand over fist. They continue

1:17:27

to make record breaking profits and not pass

1:17:29

it on to consumers, let alone their workers

1:17:32

continue to you know, corporate price gouging, et

1:17:34

cetera. And people are through with it to

1:17:36

the extent that even on a state

1:17:39

like Tennessee where the politician, the political

1:17:41

class there was overwhelmingly hostile

1:17:43

to unions, you had a bunch of Southern governors

1:17:46

come out against this union drive. They've

1:17:48

been threatened with all, they're going to close the plant, et cetera, et cetera.

1:17:51

Those things just don't matter. And then

1:17:53

you know, you also just have this momentum.

1:17:56

Now that's so important because

1:17:58

previously when workers saw

1:18:01

just you know, concessionary contract, union

1:18:03

loss after union loss, and the

1:18:05

union based shrinking and shrinking and shrinking, it

1:18:08

wasn't very compelling to join. And you know, when

1:18:10

you see what the big three workers are getting there,

1:18:12

like I do this same job, why the hell shouldn't

1:18:15

I be getting the same type of pay,

1:18:17

the same type of benefits, and have that

1:18:19

similar type of life. So

1:18:22

we'll see what happens in Alabama next. And

1:18:24

speaking to that, you know, that momentum

1:18:26

and this sense of solidarity across not

1:18:28

just the auto industry, but a bunch of

1:18:31

different you know, variety

1:18:33

of industries, white collar, blue collar, service

1:18:35

sector, et cetera. One worker

1:18:38

said he was actually inspired by the writer's

1:18:40

strike, which we thought was kind of interesting. Let's take a listen to

1:18:42

that.

1:18:42

We like when all the labor strikes first,

1:18:44

you know, like the like the writers and stuff

1:18:46

like that.

1:18:47

Like I was a communications.

1:18:48

Major in college, and so seeing the

1:18:50

writers go on strike and standing after their

1:18:52

rights, that was I

1:18:54

was so excited about that. And then seeing there's

1:18:57

a part of us that when we be talking about this

1:19:00

just secretly in the back of our minders, like man, I

1:19:03

wonder if I wonder if auto

1:19:05

workers, if we're going to start seeing

1:19:07

something like that.

1:19:08

Here you can see the way these things have a

1:19:10

momentum of their own, and I think it's, you

1:19:12

know, the horses out of the bar. And I think you're right, Saga,

1:19:15

that we've seen now the low point in terms

1:19:17

of population union

1:19:19

density, and it really matters because

1:19:21

having workers have a little bit of say in their workplace,

1:19:24

it's good not only for those particular workers,

1:19:26

but it helps to set the standards across

1:19:29

industries, across the entire

1:19:31

liborpool. In the US. So very heartening

1:19:33

to see this. Congratulations to these workers who

1:19:36

risk a lot, by the way to organize

1:19:38

here and stuck their neck out and now they get to have a say

1:19:41

in their workplace.

1:19:41

Yeah, the big change, the big question is going to be obviously

1:19:44

the spread whether this will go to Toyota, apparently,

1:19:46

Honda, Hyundai, and other foreign car manufacturers

1:19:49

all across the American style. So this is

1:19:51

one But this obviously is like a signal

1:19:54

that goes out across that And but we also

1:19:56

shouldn't forget, as we covered previously, it's

1:19:58

not like the state governments aren't going to fight back. Oh

1:20:00

yeah, this Alabama, Tennessee,

1:20:02

all these other places. They're going to use everything in their

1:20:04

disposal to try and

1:20:06

to try and to quash any

1:20:08

of these future votes.

1:20:09

Yeah. The last thing I'll mention here is Volkswagen.

1:20:13

They are used to dealing with unions in

1:20:15

their European locations,

1:20:18

and so the reports are they were

1:20:20

less hostile to unionization

1:20:22

efforts than other automakers

1:20:25

like Tesla, for example. Maybe,

1:20:27

so that could be a key factor here as well.

1:20:30

But the fact that this victory was so resounding,

1:20:33

the fact that this same planet had lost two

1:20:35

separate votes and now votes

1:20:38

seventy three percent for a union really

1:20:40

does show you that we're living in a different

1:20:42

era now. Things have decidedly changed.

1:20:44

Absolutely.

1:20:45

All right, let's move on to Tucker Carlson

1:20:47

on the Joe Rogan Experience. There were wild

1:20:49

conspiracies flying when the episode

1:20:52

itself was posted. Why doesn't

1:20:54

it have enough views? What's going on there? Well, it's

1:20:56

got several million views now, so everybody can relax.

1:20:58

In general, just who don't have YouTube channels.

1:21:01

In the first twenty four hours, it will

1:21:03

often be much less publicly

1:21:05

than what it actually is on the back end.

1:21:08

I'm not really sure why they do that, but just

1:21:10

so people understand that's what it is. After

1:21:12

around twenty four hours or so, you can go and

1:21:14

check and you will see the actual

1:21:16

number. But that belies what's actually

1:21:18

important. There were some ideological disagreements

1:21:22

that were made on the show, where Tucker

1:21:24

in particular echoed some of the things that he talked

1:21:26

about previously whenever I interviewed him before

1:21:28

about free speech hypocrites in

1:21:31

the alternative media space.

1:21:33

He names in shames.

1:21:34

Barry Weiss and then also heavily implies

1:21:37

Ben Shapiro as well let's take a listen.

1:21:39

If you hear someone talk that's saying

1:21:42

something that's kind of horseshit, it

1:21:45

resonates with you that that's what you've seen.

1:21:47

You had a moment with Barry Weiss on your show

1:21:50

that when everywhere I saw

1:21:52

a clip of it. I never saw the show itself,

1:21:54

but she was going on about she

1:21:57

was posing as one thing, and then you pressed you, you like,

1:21:59

well, hold on a second, what do you mean by that? You just attack

1:22:01

somebody? And she had no idea what she was talking about.

1:22:04

And it became really clear to me watching that. I completely

1:22:06

changed my view of Barry Weiss forever. I was like, oh,

1:22:08

this she's a fraud. Actually, this

1:22:11

person's not honest at all. Like she has

1:22:13

a very specific agenda, that's

1:22:15

all she cares about. The rest

1:22:17

of this stuff is just a is

1:22:20

a kind of sleight of hand maneuver.

1:22:21

You're talking about the thing with Tulta Gabbart, that's correct.

1:22:24

Yeah, she called her a toady and she didn't know what that

1:22:26

meant.

1:22:26

Well, but she had no idea like Telsea Gabbard

1:22:28

had straight outside the lines on some Syria

1:22:31

or something. Oh huh.

1:22:33

And Barry Weiss

1:22:36

was, you know, going through the files in her head,

1:22:38

like what does she have to believe? And

1:22:41

she was aware that, you know, Tulsi Gabbart

1:22:43

had somehow violated that in a way that no one's willing

1:22:45

to say, like in detail to her

1:22:48

fully articulately, what did Tulsi Gabbert do wrong? No one will

1:22:50

tell you.

1:22:50

She's just bad. But it's important

1:22:52

to be honest about what your agenda.

1:22:54

She is honest. I think she is honest,

1:22:56

and I really like her.

1:22:57

Yeah, I like that.

1:22:58

I'm not she's very into well, not against

1:23:00

her personally.

1:23:01

I just think that was a mistake, and

1:23:03

I think you're allowed to do that and hopefully

1:23:05

learn from that.

1:23:06

If your agenda is

1:23:09

neo kun politics, which is her agenda, just

1:23:11

say so. Don't pretend to

1:23:14

be a defender of free speech as a principle,

1:23:16

which is what she does.

1:23:17

How is she a defender of neokon politics?

1:23:19

Very wise?

1:23:20

Yeah, like what specifically, Well,

1:23:23

anyone including me and Tulca Gabbard,

1:23:25

who thinks that America shouldn't

1:23:27

be funding worse that don't help America, she

1:23:30

will attack.

1:23:31

Yeah, I mean that's empirically true. I'm on Barry's

1:23:33

feed literally, right, and listen, I have nothing personal

1:23:35

against Barry Wise. You've only ever been cordial.

1:23:38

This is purely a professional disagreement.

1:23:40

Has put all that out there. But I'm on

1:23:43

Barry's feed and everything is about

1:23:45

individual students getting attacked at

1:23:48

Yeah, for example, headline at the Free Press,

1:23:50

I was stabbed in the Yale because

1:23:53

I am a Jew. And then I continue

1:23:55

to scroll past, and I see multiple

1:23:58

retweets of like a panic going

1:24:00

on anti free speech that's happening

1:24:03

at Columbia University. If I continue

1:24:05

to scroll and look at the Free Press, I see

1:24:07

articles that are justifying more

1:24:09

aid to Ukraine, more aid to Israel.

1:24:11

But really what gave away the game to me? And this is actually

1:24:14

just pure, one hundred percent proof, is it. Verry

1:24:16

did an event in Israel with a guy

1:24:18

named Natan Sharansky. Now most

1:24:21

of you probably don't know who that is. Sharansky

1:24:23

is an israel Israeli politician and

1:24:25

a father of neo conservative ideology.

1:24:28

He his book was chiefly

1:24:30

responsible for George W. Bush's

1:24:32

second inaugural address and the

1:24:34

Freedom Agenda about spreading

1:24:36

democracy to Iraq. So if

1:24:39

you are doing an event with the father

1:24:42

of the Freedom Agenda from

1:24:44

Iraq, you are a neocon one

1:24:46

hundred percent. And she did that unironically

1:24:49

in Israel. And then also

1:24:51

while there was posting videos like.

1:24:52

This is what it's like to be under attack, you know, while.

1:24:55

We're in Israel, people were like, yeah, what about a couple miles

1:24:57

away over there in God's Like, I'm not justifying

1:24:59

the attack, but I'm just come on, you know, like, let's

1:25:01

chill here a little bit on the propaganda.

1:25:04

So look, with all due respect to our

1:25:06

friend Joe Rogan, I do think

1:25:08

Barry is an absolutely unreconstructed

1:25:10

neo conservative, a hypocrite whenever

1:25:13

it comes to free speech, as Tucker correctly

1:25:15

was calling out there, and he wasn't just talking about her, he was

1:25:17

also talking about Ben Shapiro because

1:25:19

both of those individuals raised

1:25:22

and let's be honest, you know, monetarily

1:25:24

became multi millionaires speaking

1:25:27

out against free speech,

1:25:29

hypocrisy and all that. And it's very easy, you

1:25:31

know, to attack the left world, do it here anytime

1:25:33

if we see hypocrisy as well. But you know, whenever

1:25:36

it comes to an issue there where they have a deep

1:25:38

emotional and religious attachment, then

1:25:40

all of a sudden, all that stuff gets thrown right out the

1:25:42

window.

1:25:43

Listen part of Joe's charms

1:25:45

that he sees the best in them. Yeah, that's we're sitting across

1:25:47

from him, and that includes Barry Weiss, so we'll

1:25:49

put him aside. In terms of the commentary.

1:25:52

You know, the free speech part with Barry,

1:25:54

it's so blatant because you

1:25:57

know, when she was a college student, she

1:25:59

was engaged aged in some of these activist efforts

1:26:02

to get Muslim professors

1:26:05

who she found to be saying things she didn't like

1:26:07

canceled. Now she claimed once she entered

1:26:09

her quote unquote free speech era that oh, I was a

1:26:11

college student and people gave her a pass. Okay, find

1:26:13

your college student. People, you know, make mistakes and

1:26:15

they change and they grow, et cetera, et cetera. But

1:26:18

the minute it came to Israel, suddenly

1:26:20

she is the biggest cancel

1:26:23

culture proponent that you could possibly

1:26:25

am. I mean, that is what her entire Twitter

1:26:27

feed is at this point. And

1:26:30

it's not surprising that

1:26:32

this tactic is being used to

1:26:34

smear an entire protest movement

1:26:37

and an entire cause because

1:26:40

we see this plan on through throughout history.

1:26:42

It's easier to you know,

1:26:44

find the asshole in the movement,

1:26:47

use that person to smear the entire

1:26:49

movement, and then use that smearing

1:26:51

of the movement to delegitimize the cause.

1:26:54

And at this point, if you're an Israel supporter, that

1:26:56

is a lot easier than actually out

1:26:58

and out justifying what Israel

1:27:00

is doing in Palestine day after day. It

1:27:02

was a lot easier than out and out trying to

1:27:04

argue that US continuing to support them

1:27:07

as they were sending the

1:27:09

world catastrophically in World War three

1:27:11

is somehow an American interest. So

1:27:13

it's you know, it's a cheap and easy playbook that we see

1:27:15

throughout history. And yeah, she was happy to ditch

1:27:17

the free speech language the minute that it was became

1:27:19

inconvenient for her, after she built an entire

1:27:22

your media empire off

1:27:24

of it. So, I mean, that's just the reality.

1:27:26

You believe what you want, Okay, it's free country.

1:27:28

If you want to be rapidly pro Israel, cool,

1:27:30

you want to cancel people who are Palestinian

1:27:33

activists while you're in college and then

1:27:36

apologize.

1:27:36

For it, which is what she did. Objectively. She came

1:27:39

out and said that she.

1:27:41

Regretted her passing that I'll

1:27:43

take you at your word, but then if you're immediately

1:27:46

going to regress back to that same

1:27:48

behavior, then I'm not going to take you

1:27:50

out your word.

1:27:51

I'm going to say that you are a giant hypocrite.

1:27:53

And that's the same problem I have with Ben

1:27:55

Shapiro, again, a pan who I have only

1:27:57

ever had good personal interaction with. But

1:28:00

this is a professional and a principal

1:28:03

disagreement about what we view as

1:28:05

important and what we view as actually

1:28:08

whether you're standing up for what you said you believe

1:28:11

in or not. And I think it was I'm glad that Tucker

1:28:13

said that. I would hope, you know that Joe

1:28:15

would maybe be take a look at some other

1:28:17

free press articles that are

1:28:19

out there, because I do think it's very important.

1:28:21

There were also some allegations that Tucker

1:28:24

made about blackmail and members

1:28:26

of Congress, according to him, that he's

1:28:28

seen from the intelligence community.

1:28:29

Let's take a listen, by.

1:28:31

The way, you know, whatever,

1:28:33

that's all I'll say, By the way,

1:28:36

no, I mean, you know, people don't say that because they're worried

1:28:38

abut getting punished. They're worried about someone putting kitty

1:28:40

porn on their computer. Members of Congress

1:28:42

are terrified of the Intel agencies

1:28:44

I'm not guessing at that. They've told me that,

1:28:47

including people on the Intel Committee, including

1:28:49

people who run the Intel Committee, the people

1:28:51

whose job it is to oversee

1:28:53

and keep in line these enormous

1:28:56

secretive agencies whose budgets

1:28:58

we can't even know their black budget. It's there.

1:29:02

The parents, the agencies are the

1:29:04

children. They're afraid

1:29:07

of the agencies. That's not

1:29:10

compatible with democracy.

1:29:11

Interesting alleging there

1:29:14

that they'll put Katie porn on your I mean, listen,

1:29:16

it's certainly possible. The broader thing,

1:29:18

I definitely one hundred percent agree with. Glenn

1:29:20

always loves to put play that clip

1:29:23

of Chuck Schumer from twenty seventeen

1:29:25

whenever he's like, Trump shouldn't mess with the Intel

1:29:27

agencies and the CIA because they

1:29:30

can really make life hard for you. And

1:29:32

You're like, wait, what is your job

1:29:34

is to is to.

1:29:35

Oversee the CIA?

1:29:36

Are you saying that there's the opposite,

1:29:38

And I mean, considering what happened with Mike Johnson,

1:29:41

where you have a guy who voted

1:29:43

against Ukraine AID, spoke out against Ukraine AID,

1:29:45

became president and then literally said because

1:29:48

of the Intel that he decided to flip and

1:29:50

become Winston Churchill and he prayed on

1:29:52

on all that.

1:29:53

I am not going to rule out blackmel Cristal. In terms

1:29:55

of this, Mike john.

1:29:55

Remember the Russian space Nuka

1:29:58

just say situation when they're just yes with them

1:30:00

through Listen the

1:30:03

kitty porn thing. Extraordinary claims require

1:30:05

extraordinary evidence, no evidence

1:30:07

presented. In addition, like this does

1:30:09

kind of give a past to how any member

1:30:11

of Congress in the future ends up with kitty porn on

1:30:13

their laptop, to be like, it wasn't me, it was the

1:30:15

Intel committees. It's just because I'm such a like,

1:30:18

you know, warrior for truth that they're coming after

1:30:20

me. Whatever. Look at what Tucker had to say

1:30:22

about it. It's all out there in the open, soide don't love those comments

1:30:25

certainly in terms the thing

1:30:27

is that many of these conspiracies are out in the open.

1:30:29

Like we were discussing before, we know the way

1:30:31

that they rolled Obama. We know,

1:30:34

you know, Trump was easily manipulated.

1:30:36

Mike Johnson publicly admitted

1:30:39

that he was emotionally manipulated

1:30:42

by them into completely changing

1:30:44

his previously held multiple positions.

1:30:47

So I mean that part of it is

1:30:49

just like it's not a conspiracy, that's just

1:30:51

an undeniable fact about the way that they

1:30:53

operate, and they can threaten to leak to the press,

1:30:55

and there's any number of stenographers out there or print

1:30:58

whatever they want to print, and they can ruin you,

1:31:00

and these politicians know they can ruin you.

1:31:02

You add to that, then you know the amount of

1:31:04

money coming in not only through the Israel lobby,

1:31:07

but also critically across every

1:31:09

issue from the military industrial

1:31:11

complex, these defense The defense industry

1:31:14

is one of the largest funders

1:31:16

of political campaigns. And you see how

1:31:19

you end up with the results that we have,

1:31:21

which are directly contrary to actual

1:31:24

democracy and actual will of the people,

1:31:26

which is why over and over and over again,

1:31:28

you see these things only go in one direction.

1:31:30

Yeah, absolutely, all right, let's okay, second part

1:31:32

here, and this requires an entire

1:31:35

discussion on its own.

1:31:36

Talker and I do share a fascination.

1:31:39

With UFO's UAPs whatever you

1:31:41

would like to call it. But he seems to believe

1:31:44

that the phenomenon as

1:31:46

it exists involves something

1:31:48

supernatural but of this

1:31:50

world, and something that is not

1:31:53

alien or extraterrestrial. Here's

1:31:55

the case that he laid out on Joe Rogan.

1:31:57

Well, when you say spiritual, like what makes

1:32:00

you draw that conclusion that their spiritual?

1:32:02

What's the obvious I mean spiritual maybe the wrong words supernatural?

1:32:05

You know, they're beyond nature as we understand

1:32:07

it. I mean, obviously they are. I mean, just

1:32:10

chart their physical behavior. It doesn't you

1:32:12

know, it goes outside of what we understand

1:32:14

about physics. So if you have a

1:32:16

craft, any object underwater

1:32:19

that's traveling at five hundred knots as

1:32:21

measured by sonar right there, you're challenging

1:32:23

understanding physics, like what is that? How can that

1:32:25

be?

1:32:26

So they've they've tracked that, they've

1:32:28

tracked things going five hundred knots under

1:32:31

the sea.

1:32:32

Yeah really, yeah, much much faster

1:32:35

than any object could can actually go under

1:32:37

under Oh for sure.

1:32:40

Oh yeah.

1:32:41

There's a lot of stuff going on underwater

1:32:44

and a lot

1:32:46

and there's video of these things coming

1:32:49

out of the sky into the

1:32:51

water and also emerging from the water.

1:32:53

Right.

1:32:53

But then there's a deeper level, which is like, Okay,

1:32:56

what's your relationship with these things?

1:32:59

What is the US government's relationship

1:33:01

with these things? And there's evidence

1:33:03

that there is a relationship and that

1:33:05

it's a longstanding and that

1:33:08

raises like a lot of questions about intent,

1:33:11

and.

1:33:13

So like what is that?

1:33:14

And I just personally decided, you

1:33:18

know, and people have been hurt by these things. You

1:33:20

know, that's a fact. That's a fact. It's

1:33:22

a noble fact, it's a provable fact.

1:33:25

And killed.

1:33:26

And I'm not saying millions of people have been killed

1:33:28

by whatever these things are, but people have been killed,

1:33:30

and it's known because it's working its way through

1:33:32

the courts out of the VA. So I

1:33:36

don't know an object that is

1:33:39

by definition supernatural, it's above

1:33:42

the laws of nature as we understand them, and

1:33:44

that has resulted in the deaths of

1:33:47

people. We

1:33:49

don't spend enough time thinking about like what that adds up to,

1:33:52

like not good? Actually not good.

1:33:54

So he's implying kind of the same stuff that he'd

1:33:56

previously talks about here, Crystal. I mean, he seems

1:33:58

to believe that uap ufo

1:34:00

whatever you would like to call it, of beer in here for

1:34:03

hundreds of years, which definitely

1:34:05

there is evidence for that, but that

1:34:08

they are like some sort of biblical

1:34:10

angels and demons as

1:34:12

opposed to extraterrestrials.

1:34:14

So I'll let you weigh in before I give some of my

1:34:17

thoughts.

1:34:17

Well, this k yeah, this the context before

1:34:19

of his interview with Putin, We're asked

1:34:21

Putin something about this, and Putin's like, noe,

1:34:24

yeah,

1:34:26

I don't know. I feel like I have to get you to decode

1:34:28

this for me, because I was asking you previously, how

1:34:32

large of a percentage of the like UFO

1:34:35

interest community shares

1:34:37

this like Christian spiritual

1:34:41

angel demons view of whatever

1:34:43

the hell is going on?

1:34:44

This is more of like a nineteen seventies, nineteen eighties

1:34:46

UFO phenomenal. Really yeah, oh yeah, people

1:34:48

back in the day used to really believe.

1:34:50

I thought this was like a new school, like Christian Nationalism.

1:34:52

No, no, no, definitely, no, absolutely not.

1:34:54

If anything, it's much older, the more of the extraterrestrial

1:34:57

school, I guess you could call it is. I

1:34:59

mean, it's always been there for the entire time, but there's

1:35:01

always been debates and all around this. To

1:35:03

a certain extent, I don't even care, because as long as people are

1:35:05

interested, it's just going to lead to more transparency.

1:35:07

What kicked off this entire discussion

1:35:10

actually was the declassification of the ConA

1:35:12

Blue Program, and these were declassified

1:35:15

documents. News Nation reporting this

1:35:17

and I've confirmed at least some of it as well,

1:35:19

from those people that I've spoken to, is

1:35:21

specifically about a proposed program to try

1:35:23

and reverse engineer back UFOs.

1:35:26

It was quote scrapped according to them, when

1:35:28

no alien technology was found, and

1:35:31

the Pentagon continues to maintain there is

1:35:33

no evidence of alien life. So what

1:35:35

they said, basically, what they're claiming is

1:35:37

there was a proposal to back engineer UFOs,

1:35:39

but then they weren't able to find any UFOs. But why would

1:35:41

you have a back engineering proposal if there were

1:35:43

no UFOs?

1:35:44

Whatever? Got chat?

1:35:45

Okay, there's a lot of conversation I

1:35:47

guess around this. To be

1:35:49

honest, I mean, look, you know, nome disrespect.

1:35:52

Doesn't it seem more plausible that

1:35:54

that we're dealing with extraterrestrial

1:35:56

life than we are angels and demons

1:35:59

that we're dealing with if something, you know,

1:36:01

one is in the realm of all

1:36:03

scientifics. All sci fi is

1:36:05

premised on what on the idea and

1:36:08

specifically toying with the Fermi paradox

1:36:10

and all that that if intelligent

1:36:13

life is able to arise on a relatively

1:36:15

unremarkable planet like Earth, then why would

1:36:17

it not be able to arise in the billions

1:36:19

and billions and trillions upon stars that exists

1:36:21

in our galaxy at the same time. If there

1:36:23

are, and extraterrestrial life is almost

1:36:25

a certainty, then why haven't we been able

1:36:28

to see it or observe it? And that's

1:36:30

where it comes into play of like, well, an intelligent

1:36:32

life would have to be able to achieve you know, faster

1:36:34

than light travel at the exact same time

1:36:37

that the human race has. One hundred

1:36:39

and fifty thousand years or whatever of human evolution

1:36:42

is a blink of an eye in terrestrial terms.

1:36:44

So there may have been vast great civilizations

1:36:46

that have been risen and fallen in the interim,

1:36:48

and that way, we may be the only ones in

1:36:51

our star system or whatever at the current

1:36:53

moment that is able.

1:36:54

To even see.

1:36:55

So I accept, and you know, see both

1:36:57

certain possibilities, but I think

1:36:59

that that is a lot more of a possible

1:37:01

explanation.

1:37:02

I will just say, very humbly myself.

1:37:04

That's very diplomatically put. Yeah, I'll just

1:37:06

defer.

1:37:06

To you on that one. Yeah.

1:37:08

Look, in terms of the evidence

1:37:10

for their theory, what

1:37:13

they point to is again not necessarily incompatible

1:37:16

with any theories around extraterrestrial

1:37:18

life, because we're there evidence

1:37:21

for supernatural and or

1:37:23

like religion and all that really

1:37:25

relies again on like big

1:37:27

conversations within physics around the

1:37:30

fourth and the fifth dimension and this whole idea if

1:37:32

you ever watch Interstellar, you know the idea of

1:37:34

its future humans send themselves back.

1:37:36

I think that's the explanations

1:37:40

if there is one for kind of what he's talking about.

1:37:42

Gotch if that makes sense. Okay, anyway,

1:37:44

there we go.

1:37:45

All right, guys, we have a great guest standing

1:37:47

by who's actually been tracking these protests

1:37:50

on the Columbia University campus for

1:37:52

quite a while. So let's go ahead and get to that. Very

1:37:57

pleased to be joined this morning by prem Taker. He's

1:37:59

a reporter for the as I mentioned, has

1:38:01

been covering these Columbia University protests for quite

1:38:03

some time. Great to have you, probub, welcome you.

1:38:05

See you man.

1:38:05

Happy to happ to be here, thank you.

1:38:08

So we all were witnessed to some extraordinary scenes

1:38:10

coming out of the campus grounds

1:38:13

over the weekend. Let's go and put this up on the screen

1:38:15

and maybe you can tell us what we see here. It's the

1:38:18

New York Police Department coming

1:38:20

in to arrest what

1:38:23

appeared to be peaceful student protesters

1:38:25

just give us a little bit of what we're looking at and what the

1:38:27

backstory is here.

1:38:29

Yeah, So.

1:38:31

On Wednesday, as many people know, last week,

1:38:33

Columbia administrators, including Columbia

1:38:35

President Minushafik, had been called to Congress

1:38:38

to testify in front

1:38:40

of the hearing of the House committee

1:38:42

that has been hosting hearings on antisemitism.

1:38:45

And at the same morning that this was happening,

1:38:48

hundreds of Columbia students had launched an

1:38:50

encampment, both kind

1:38:52

of in relation to this hearing, but

1:38:54

more broadly sort of escalating ongoing

1:38:57

demands they've had for years now about financial

1:38:59

trends, expariency, and to call for the

1:39:02

school to divest from companies

1:39:04

that might be implicated in israels

1:39:06

of violence in Palestine. And so there's

1:39:09

this en camera that that sprouts up on

1:39:11

Wednesday morning, very massive encampment at

1:39:13

the same time the administrators are testifying

1:39:15

in front of Congress at this hearing. Of

1:39:17

course I was at the hearing live, but

1:39:20

you know, as many people were just falling through Twitter

1:39:23

and c spent if that's your choice.

1:39:26

These members

1:39:29

of Congress, especially Republicans, have really gotten

1:39:32

Columbian administrators to agree to this

1:39:34

premise that more needed to be

1:39:36

done in response to these students. And

1:39:38

so you see, the day after Thursday,

1:39:41

Columbia acts on those

1:39:43

premises and sends the NYPD to

1:39:45

sort of sweep out this encampment and

1:39:49

begin conducting arrests, of which I

1:39:51

believe over one hundred students were arrested.

1:39:55

I believe fifty odd students

1:39:57

from Barnard, the Women's College at Columbia,

1:40:00

and then thirty odd Columbia

1:40:02

students, and I think this number has probably grown since then.

1:40:05

We're also suspended.

1:40:07

So that was the beginning of what we've now

1:40:09

seen, you know, the past four or five

1:40:11

days, just this ongoing escalation

1:40:15

on part especially of the university to kind

1:40:17

of meet these students,

1:40:19

not with sort of perhaps good faith willingness

1:40:22

to negotiate or discuss

1:40:25

issues at hand, but really just to police

1:40:27

them. And I'll note last night

1:40:29

at one fifteen am, President Manushafik

1:40:31

sent an email kind of expressing an

1:40:34

interest in.

1:40:34

In some ways.

1:40:36

You know, of course people criticize the statement, but

1:40:39

she's expressed a desire to

1:40:41

kind of hash things out and then bring

1:40:43

the temperature down.

1:40:44

So that's kind of the latest.

1:40:46

Update, okay, And so you

1:40:49

also put out an image which we're about to

1:40:51

play here, which was the aftermath after

1:40:54

the NYPD he came in where it appears to

1:40:56

actually pour gasoline on that. Let's actually

1:40:58

see that image right now, and

1:41:12

so prem that image underscore

1:41:14

that it actually ended up increasing

1:41:16

the amount of protesters.

1:41:18

It's drawn attention. Now, what

1:41:20

is the current status quo?

1:41:21

And give us some background because things

1:41:23

now I've reached the national discourse level.

1:41:26

We've seen people calling for the National Guard

1:41:29

to be brought in the NYPD.

1:41:31

Mayor Eric Adams.

1:41:33

Actually, I think we have that statement

1:41:35

out there f seven guys, if we can put that up there

1:41:37

on the screen. We have Mayor

1:41:40

Eric Adams who has put out a tweet

1:41:42

where he says that he deplores

1:41:44

the amount of anti semitism on campus.

1:41:46

I'm horrified and disgusted being spewed

1:41:49

around the Columbia University.

1:41:50

Hate has no place in our city.

1:41:51

I've instructed NYPD to investigate

1:41:53

any violation of the law. Rhetoric

1:41:56

is certainly ramping up there. So what

1:41:58

do you expect the fallout to?

1:42:00

Yeah, So for context, in the past

1:42:02

day or two, there have been instances

1:42:05

of alleged you know, anti semitism that have

1:42:07

been circulating throughout the internet,

1:42:11

things that you know, we ought to verify, and also

1:42:13

things that it's not clear if they

1:42:15

were in fact Propositian students

1:42:18

making these claims or doing these things. There's

1:42:20

concerns as with protests, especially

1:42:23

with regards to Israel pastime for

1:42:25

years of potential infiltration,

1:42:29

slash fall flags. You know, we're not sure,

1:42:31

but regardless, in any

1:42:33

case, those instances

1:42:35

have helped propel numerous members

1:42:38

of Congress, even the White House, as you saw Eric

1:42:40

Adams as well as Governor Kathy Okle to

1:42:42

issue statements essentially condemning

1:42:46

the student protesters in all sorts

1:42:48

of ways, whether it's you know, describing

1:42:51

them or comparing them to possibly being terrorist

1:42:53

sympathizers or at least echoing

1:42:56

terrorist rhetoric. I believe John

1:42:59

Fetterman had much more direct

1:43:01

comparison that if you gave these

1:43:04

students tiki torches, they'd

1:43:06

be unmistakable from the Charlottesville Unite

1:43:09

the Right rally. But regardless,

1:43:11

you know, that has definitely I think probably

1:43:14

prompted this this late night savement from

1:43:16

Manushafik, and

1:43:19

so as far as how students and faculty

1:43:21

members are navigating this today, all classes

1:43:24

are virtual, I think as as the administration

1:43:26

tries to figure out what.

1:43:27

To do today.

1:43:30

As well, faculty starting

1:43:32

yesterday had a very hard time getting around campus.

1:43:35

Their ide access to buildings. A lot of faculty

1:43:37

reporting was either severely

1:43:40

hindered or even just blocked and they had to be escorted

1:43:43

to buildings. And that change

1:43:45

was made kind of spontaneously, which

1:43:47

means students to faculty

1:43:49

who had you know, whether it was a

1:43:51

notebook or project, and in various buildings that

1:43:53

they couldn't really go to to get those things.

1:43:56

So I think everything is kind

1:43:59

of you know, being done by the sea of their

1:44:01

pants in terms of how

1:44:03

far this is spreading to your points are Yeah,

1:44:05

Like after the NYPD

1:44:08

was authorized to come in and arrest students,

1:44:11

that set off hundreds more students to

1:44:13

have more interest just in Columbia's campus, but also

1:44:16

now students throughout the country who have already also

1:44:18

been protesting against

1:44:20

perhaps university involvement or investment in

1:44:23

Israel's violence.

1:44:24

They've been escalating to schools.

1:44:26

And these aren't just Ivy League schools that

1:44:29

are often you know, seen

1:44:31

as the centrifuge of these

1:44:34

actions. You know, there's the universe from North

1:44:36

Carolina. There's Michigan University as of today

1:44:38

that's doing an encampment Miami

1:44:41

University in Oxford, Ohio, which I love

1:44:43

to say the full sentence of because

1:44:45

it's a very silly series of words.

1:44:47

But there's a lot of schools across the country

1:44:49

that now are being host to actions

1:44:51

that are not just in solidarity with

1:44:53

these Columbia students, but really just ramping up their

1:44:55

own actions to say, well, if Columbia

1:44:58

can do this too, Columbia.

1:45:00

Students, I should say, then we ought to be escalating

1:45:03

as well. It is kind of the mindset of these students.

1:45:07

Have you seen any evidence that

1:45:09

anti Semitism is one of the core emotions

1:45:12

or goals that are fueling these protests

1:45:15

movements across a variety of college

1:45:17

campuses.

1:45:19

So I've been speaking to students all

1:45:21

across the country throughout the past six months,

1:45:24

and I think, as

1:45:27

in any case, of course, individual

1:45:30

instances of antisemitism would surely

1:45:32

happen to any place, because reality

1:45:35

check, there are anti Semitic people in this country and in

1:45:37

this world. But in terms of this specific

1:45:39

protest movement, what we've seen

1:45:41

at the Columbia protest, what we've seen at

1:45:43

protests throughout the past six months, throughout

1:45:45

past years. Is that it's very

1:45:48

much both just visually

1:45:50

if you take a look, but also in terms of their rhetoric,

1:45:53

in terms of what they want. It's

1:45:55

a multi racial, interfaith

1:45:57

group of people that really just

1:46:00

fired up by the idea that their

1:46:02

schools, their elected officials,

1:46:05

the people that they trust or just

1:46:07

simply pay are

1:46:09

implicated in what they see

1:46:12

as a state government

1:46:14

that's committing apartheid, that's committing violence

1:46:17

that they might be financially implicated or

1:46:19

institutionally implicated. That

1:46:21

seems to be the driving force for all these protesters

1:46:24

for the most part, as sort of an

1:46:26

organization, as a group

1:46:29

of people that are coming together for goals.

1:46:30

It's to not allow the

1:46:33

images that they've seen over the past six months, especially

1:46:36

to continue. And as a

1:46:38

lot of anti Zionis Jewish people

1:46:40

say, not in their name either.

1:46:43

So we have yet seen, though the

1:46:45

chief Rabbi at Columbia F five, who

1:46:47

can please put that up there on the

1:46:49

screen where the chief Rabbi

1:46:52

has put out a message

1:46:54

to the more than two hundred and ninety Jewish students at Columbia

1:46:57

University yesterday morning, recommending

1:46:59

that they go home until it is safe

1:47:01

again for them on campus. So is

1:47:04

there any evidence that any of these students are unsafe

1:47:06

on their campus?

1:47:09

Yeah, so I think similarly again, I would

1:47:11

say that, you know, there could very well

1:47:13

be individuals of anti Cmitism

1:47:15

that students are facing, and and if

1:47:18

they're apporting them to to their own you know, whether it's

1:47:20

their faith leaders or or campus leaders

1:47:22

as the administration has recommended, then

1:47:25

of course some of those leaders will say, hey, you know, I

1:47:27

personally don't think it's safe. For

1:47:30

what it's worth, there have been also

1:47:32

lots of Jewish students and Jewish student leaders and

1:47:35

and and facut members as well that are pushing

1:47:38

back against that quite

1:47:40

severely, especially

1:47:43

given that many of the people within the encampment themselves

1:47:46

are either Israeli or Jewish.

1:47:49

So you know, I'm not going to UH

1:47:51

as their individual porters say who

1:47:53

should or shouldn't feel safe generally

1:47:55

for for for their own individual's sake, But

1:47:58

in terms of the campus

1:48:01

as a whole, I think

1:48:03

if we're going to look for UH

1:48:06

document instance the violence that have been committed,

1:48:08

of course, one of the main ones that's been on

1:48:10

people's mind is of course the incident

1:48:13

in January where students

1:48:15

were sprayed with some sort of chemical

1:48:18

It's not been confirmed what.

1:48:21

At a rally for Gaza.

1:48:22

That's one of the more prominent instances of

1:48:25

of of violence against students, and

1:48:28

nevertheless, those students continue

1:48:30

to organize and be together. I

1:48:32

believe the Craft Center as well, which

1:48:35

is a big space for for Jewish

1:48:37

students, has encouraged students to sort

1:48:40

of, you know, are to not exit

1:48:44

campus in this way because

1:48:47

I think, you know, they want to, you know, make sure that they

1:48:49

provide a space for students as well in

1:48:51

case students are feeling you know, distressed. But

1:48:54

I think for one, especially

1:48:56

politicians, to to operate on

1:48:58

this presumption that Columbia and other college

1:49:00

campuses are not a safe place for

1:49:03

Jewish people or Israeli people are

1:49:06

really teeing off on these sort of viral

1:49:09

claims of individual instances and

1:49:11

are not entertaining the fact that there are scores

1:49:13

of Jewish and Israeli students and students

1:49:16

of all backgrounds that not only feel safe

1:49:18

on campus, but feel empowered on campus

1:49:21

because that they're of this

1:49:23

organizing together.

1:49:26

Prom last thing for you, I wanted to get your reaction to

1:49:28

the White House statement, guys, this is E six

1:49:30

we can put up on the screen.

1:49:32

They said, Well, every American

1:49:34

has the right to peaceful protest. Calls for violence

1:49:36

and physical intimidation targeting Jewish students

1:49:38

in the Jewish community are blatantly anti Semitic, unconsortable,

1:49:41

and dangerous. They have absolutely no place

1:49:43

on any college campus or anywhere in the USA. And

1:49:45

echoing the rhetoric of terrorist organizations,

1:49:47

especially in the wake of the worst massacre committed

1:49:50

against the Jewish people since the Holocaust,

1:49:52

is despicable. We condemn these

1:49:54

statements in the strongest terms.

1:49:58

How would you compare this reaction action

1:50:00

to the White House to reported

1:50:04

isolated comments of random

1:50:06

protesters near college

1:50:08

campuses. How would you compare that

1:50:11

reaction to the reaction they

1:50:13

had, for example, to a member of Congress

1:50:15

calling for Gaza to be nuked, or another

1:50:17

one saying goodbye Palestine, or

1:50:19

another one saying there are no innocent

1:50:22

Gozzins.

1:50:24

Yeah, I think your question kind

1:50:26

of lays out the answer itself. You know, this is actually

1:50:28

something we had reported on two weeks ago, just

1:50:31

going through every single sort

1:50:33

of anti Palestine new thing that a member

1:50:35

of Congress had said over the past exons, and

1:50:37

of course that list could not be all inclusive just

1:50:40

because it's so normalized.

1:50:43

But you know, this

1:50:45

administration has not issued

1:50:47

any sort of direct formal response

1:50:49

or statement with regards to those

1:50:52

that growing pile of

1:50:54

just vicious anti past in retic as

1:50:57

you know, Lindsey Graham saying to level the

1:50:59

place, Cotton, saying Israel

1:51:01

can bounce the Reubland Gaza, as you just to

1:51:03

you know, numerous representatives saying

1:51:06

to you know, we're going to turn into a parking

1:51:08

lot. Representative Brian mass

1:51:10

who famously wore his idea of

1:51:12

uniform to Congress, which I'm not sure how usual

1:51:15

it is for an American number of Congress to away

1:51:17

a foreign military uniform to to the halls

1:51:20

of Congress, but he compared Palestinian

1:51:22

civilians to Nazis and has said

1:51:24

other vicious things as well.

1:51:26

You know, this administration has not.

1:51:28

Issued any sort of formal statement on it, let alone,

1:51:31

you know, rhetorically or or politically

1:51:34

exhibited any sort of counter to that idea.

1:51:37

Those things kind of exist in the ether, and

1:51:39

it's not sort of sort of evidently

1:51:41

clear. And the same way that the Biden instiration has

1:51:44

issued many many, many statements about October

1:51:46

seventh about condemning Hamas, about anti

1:51:48

Semitism, which is which is all good and great. You

1:51:51

know you should be making those evident statements

1:51:53

on violence and and and anti

1:51:55

pow excuse me, anti

1:51:57

sam Semitic rhetoric. They have not done the

1:51:59

same at all, even for their own colleagues,

1:52:02

saying, you know, genocidal rhetoric.

1:52:04

I will know.

1:52:04

One other thing is that this was in

1:52:06

the same twenty four hours the White House statement

1:52:09

as Israeli

1:52:11

forces killing I believe eighteen

1:52:15

or nineteen children, and then a husband because

1:52:17

a pregnant wife, and then two yes, yes,

1:52:20

exactly, and then two more women in

1:52:22

Rafa, which should be underscored,

1:52:25

is not only where over a million civilians

1:52:27

are taking refuge after being displaced,

1:52:30

but is where the United States has ostensibly

1:52:32

said over and over and over again that they do not

1:52:34

support a major operation without

1:52:36

a plan to protect civilians. But in that time

1:52:39

Israel has repeatedly done

1:52:42

what I guess is normalized as a not

1:52:44

major operation and has just

1:52:46

been killing people just

1:52:49

over time on mass But

1:52:51

of course, nevertheless there was no formal

1:52:53

clear statement on that, and

1:52:56

I will update the people soon on this. But

1:52:58

it's been hours since I reached out

1:53:00

to the White House since midday yesterday

1:53:02

about that exact thing, to see if you know, at

1:53:05

least upon being prompted, if they would,

1:53:07

you know, share a comment.

1:53:09

I have not heard back yet.

1:53:11

There you go, prom Thank you so much

1:53:13

for joining us this morning's pleasure to meet you, get

1:53:15

to speak to you, and we've also enjoyed some of your

1:53:17

exchanges with the State Department. So please keep up the

1:53:19

good work.

1:53:20

Thanks, ma'am, take care.

1:53:21

Of you both.

1:53:22

Yeah, thanks you too.

1:53:24

Thank you guys so much for watching.

1:53:25

I'm sure we'll have a nice long show for everybody

1:53:27

tomorrow too, and we'll see you all later.

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