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Hello and welcome to You're dead to me.
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The Radio For Comedy podcast that takes history
1:25
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1:30
we are channeling our G and journeying all
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the way back to Ancient China to learn
1:34
about the history of conclude and to help
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with isn't a shape. I've joined by to
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very special Kung Fu masters in History gone
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up. He's a historian of China and an
1:43
expert in the history of East Asian science,
1:46
medicine a technology. He was previously base the
1:48
University of Liverpool Lincoln and now works with
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University. And college union is totally
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on Russia. Welcome Lay high
1:55
on too young I know.
1:57
Kung fu only historically so
1:59
got massively. Useful in a fight. And
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2:05
actor and author. You will know him
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from Tough lost their lives at the
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his Netflix comedy special. Maybe you've read
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his wealth sides to think both sides
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litter. It's fantastic, but you'll definitely remember
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him from previous episodes of You're Dead
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Com and The Terracotta Warriors Entering the
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podcast dojo for a fourth time it's
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Bill was welcome backfill Higher Higher Grades
2:29
Higher Leon higher. Everybody's. Gonna be back
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As high as a oh hello
2:33
Very nice. I'm already the Madame
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Cakes! I'm so excited A film
2:37
today we're talking about couldn't sue
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and I know from reading your
2:41
book the you are a black
2:43
belt in martial arts. I am
2:45
a black belt. A muscle awesome.
2:48
A black belt in sardines you
2:50
tempo with is a Japanese modification
2:52
of tiny cell income flu. Oh
2:54
and my father and his brothers
2:56
became obsessed with this Muslims Renzi
2:58
Campo before I was born. To
3:00
the extent of the all became multiple
3:02
level black belts which are called them
3:04
said like third, Danforth and like both
3:07
V set up a dojo. so I
3:09
studied Syringe Campo at a dojo as
3:11
a kids before I moved to the
3:13
Uk. I went through a sort of
3:15
Crest Accelerated course with my uncle. To.
3:18
Get a black belts which I definitely
3:20
do not deserve. I assess assess and
3:22
without a doubt have come through an
3:25
Apu baby assess, assess and would you
3:27
know about the history of kung so
3:29
it's hard to separate the real history
3:31
with. A. Kind of folklore.
3:34
The folklore com history of
3:36
it is that to sell
3:38
income for was developed by
3:41
Sauerland monks. Centuries, Ago
3:43
because the monks kept getting attacked.
3:46
By. Bandits. Oh, he knows
3:48
things, so what do you
3:50
know? This
3:57
is the so what do you know This is where on how to
3:59
go deaf and what you. I'll lobby list I
4:01
might know about today's subjects and I'm
4:03
guessing most people have seen at least
4:05
one most last movie Kung Fu already
4:07
Kung Fu ask martial arts movies all
4:09
over the place he thought yeah Bruce
4:11
Lee, the Enter the Dragon he got
4:13
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, more dragons He
4:15
got My Face, The Matrix Trilogy, He
4:17
Will Kill Bill, Kung Fu Panda and
4:19
then of the classic pop song Michael
4:22
Douglas. Everyone the country fighting. We
4:24
know about come food through pop coach
4:27
chef but how did this most lots
4:29
has come about and what of clenching
4:31
your bum whole have to do with
4:34
any of it? Leon did you give
4:36
us a definition. Of come
4:38
from. Kung. Fu All Gone
4:40
Through is really a generic name
4:43
for a number of martial arts
4:45
from China. Some of these martial
4:47
law screwed indeed be traced back
4:50
to the Buddhist Monastery of Shower
4:52
and Sorrow. The time com food
4:54
really translates into saidi practice or
4:57
walk or something. us a little
4:59
bit tedious so an Excel spreadsheet
5:02
might become for assess, assess, auto
5:04
and in China today actually more
5:06
people were prefer to Tim Wu.
5:09
Shu an auto commonly perceived
5:11
to be ancient historians generally
5:13
agree that shouting, kung fu
5:16
and related martial arts actually
5:18
came from more or less
5:20
continuous process of change of
5:23
evolution, with key developments happening
5:25
around the sixteenth century until
5:27
the present day. Saku is
5:30
give or take five hundred
5:32
years old as we know
5:35
it now. But. The
5:37
route so running deep. I
5:39
mentioned Ancient China in the
5:41
introduction so we're gonna go
5:43
deeper to begin with. Little
5:45
to how how far back
5:47
are we going and in
5:49
time for there ought to
5:51
important precursor traditions. So the
5:53
first would be unarmed combat
5:55
and strength training. and we
5:57
have written records for the
5:59
app from the Warring States
6:01
Bears and China. So we're
6:03
talking the to third century
6:05
Bc A This mostly involved
6:07
wrestling and weight lifting and
6:09
perhaps boxing contests and would
6:11
have been associated with lower
6:13
ranking com soldiers. So the
6:15
say the second precursor tradition
6:17
is actually Taoist. Taoism is
6:19
a school of Chinese philosophy
6:21
that kind of came into
6:23
being and the Warring States
6:25
Period. So we're talking about
6:27
the seafood Fourth century Bc
6:29
A. And thousand,
6:31
as a Chinese philosophy,
6:33
emphasize things like passivity
6:35
not true nas or
6:37
spontaneity or simplicity. These
6:39
kind of hours exercises
6:42
are. They were intended
6:44
to improve the flow
6:46
of tea or. Energy.
6:48
Or vital essence around the
6:50
body and a goal is
6:53
to increase longevity and cure
6:55
or prevent illnesses and usually
6:57
involves some kind of your
6:59
breathing exercises, physical postures, sometimes
7:02
meditation and the pax that
7:04
these exercises were recorded in
7:06
that would have been to
7:08
preserve off high status elite
7:11
men so communists and women
7:13
are not welcome to do
7:15
that a different time. And
7:18
that sex is called the the dow
7:21
yin to is that right Leon? Yeah
7:23
that's right. So sell this takes to
7:25
dalliance who has several post is named
7:27
off the animals. As. We can
7:29
do many quiz for you Which
7:31
of these five pastas was not
7:33
describes in the billion to was
7:36
it the bird stretch. The.
7:38
Bear amble. The. given
7:40
jump. The. Dragon Rise.
7:43
Or. The crane? Cool. oh man. other this
7:45
would be a lot easier. Those all
7:47
sounds. Viable. I'm
7:49
going to say that the fake ones
7:51
are the bear amble and the crane
7:53
coal. Well, I'm afraid we have that
7:56
a sixth one the red herring because
7:58
their role in their document. I
8:00
knew his own rules about. I mean
8:03
you are those so raped me Leon
8:05
What's the point of these various poses?
8:07
Is it sort of similar to yoga
8:09
or is it about stretching and strengthening
8:11
muscles? While many of these past is
8:13
ah really about the flow of tea
8:15
and the channels of the body in
8:17
which see would flow I see like
8:19
unless the sort of bring the a
8:21
tone down the little bit because the
8:23
next thing with script is a cell.
8:25
Would you think the public pool was
8:28
a buttered poll? Yeah I think what.
8:30
Happens to me when I stand up
8:32
too quickly. ssssss you haven't been too
8:34
emotional side of her. A stuff off
8:36
a bus pulled a i imagine it's
8:38
saw one of these of feats of
8:40
strength may that a solid muscle do.
8:43
When will they attach some great way
8:45
to their buttocks and move it along
8:47
with of the strength of their butts
8:49
and spent that that this is absolutely
8:51
not that for the great mental image
8:54
with about does know a cancer do
8:56
then. Services. For all his
8:58
glory one of the most important postures
9:00
or it involves cleansing ones A nurse.
9:02
So it as one medical manuscript I
9:04
would describe how or when you're eating
9:07
and drinking you should relax the buttocks,
9:09
straighten your spine, second a nurse and
9:11
let did see pass through you and.scored
9:13
quote Unquote Moving to fluid let's head
9:15
over to Henan Province in the Seventh
9:18
century because I think sell for the
9:20
entire episode you have been desperately waiting
9:22
for the south and monk the show
9:24
up. Would he know about the Chalet.
9:27
Monastery. It is the
9:29
preeminent monastery in China.
9:31
All the deeds bald and they
9:33
were orange. Owns
9:36
and they meditate on Buddhism
9:38
and the story I was
9:40
always told is that they
9:43
kept getting attacked by bandits
9:45
on the road between the
9:47
monastery and other know the
9:49
canteen ssn A So they
9:51
developed a system of self
9:53
defense to protect them. From.
9:56
Bandits pretty good of leon. Can we have
9:59
them or space? The fake history
10:01
so the tradition of unarmed
10:03
combat and this additional south
10:05
cultivation techniques from Dallas and
10:07
they came together at the
10:09
Sound and Temple which is
10:11
of course in months song
10:13
near the cities of law,
10:15
young and dumb jokes Now
10:18
sudden samples a Buddhist monastery
10:20
founded in the sixth century
10:22
ce he allegedly by an
10:24
Indian monk named in the
10:26
Chinese sources half bottle or
10:28
for tour. In
10:30
the seventh century Ce sound
10:32
and became an important center
10:34
for a new school of
10:36
Buddhism known as Tron Buddhism
10:38
or in Japanese Zen Buddhism
10:40
or the Aids Sensory See.
10:42
It was said that the
10:44
legendary Indian monk Bodie Dharma
10:46
had found dead at hand
10:48
Buddhism and child and and
10:50
he sat in a cave
10:52
near Sound and sample for
10:54
nine years and he was
10:56
staring at a war and
10:58
he was meditating. Know historians
11:01
generally agree that Sounds Philosophy actually
11:03
and much a century after the
11:05
death of Bowtie Dharma of a
11:07
rigged not have a whole lot
11:09
to do about it Our spring
11:11
Any case, because of all of
11:13
these kind of sacred associations and
11:15
because Law Young, which is as
11:17
city that was near the Sound
11:19
and Temple was an imperial capital
11:21
for most of the first millennium
11:23
see he Shall in Temple actually
11:25
enjoyed a lot of patronage from
11:27
the ruling elites and became fabulously
11:29
wealthy. The monks a rule. So
11:31
siding with the Sun political faction is
11:34
that right? Yep, that's right. sorrow. The
11:36
seventh century textual evidence celebrate the victory
11:38
of south and monks over raiding bandits
11:41
in six hundred and Ten. See! So
11:43
finally we got some pundits was so
11:45
bizarre this I saw it was actually
11:47
for them. So D C is possibly
11:50
a former self defense or they were
11:52
bandits who will like oh you guys
11:54
have fabulous the wealthy on you have
11:56
things that we may want a night
11:59
so wait. To attack the Charlene Temple
12:01
in the Saudi months to a while. Now
12:03
we're gonna pure up. Wow. His
12:05
home and own said his home
12:07
alone with assess assess them alone
12:10
if the Ss some of the
12:12
late Ming period which is that
12:14
the fifteen hundreds we have loads
12:16
evidence the cell in martial arts
12:18
have become more widespread throughout China
12:20
and sell dino which weapon. The.
12:22
Monks and now notorious for using last
12:25
Six Seasons tear gas. If it ain't
12:27
broke, don't fix it. insists. I mean
12:29
obviously. Goblins Point: We've heard about unarmed
12:32
combat, sophist and seats. I feel like
12:34
somehow they fifty to slightly by agreeing
12:36
now that they can use weapons. So
12:39
why the stick? wine or I'd And
12:41
I've swords or axes. while possibly because
12:43
staff would be less lethal and blades
12:46
and there for this after roles and
12:48
they're not supposed to kill people or
12:50
bait most certainly did. But also the
12:53
staff. Was also a kind of religious
12:55
symbol in Buddhism by the fifteen forties
12:57
and fifties. Now we to bring in
12:59
pirates into the story and we've got
13:02
monks being sent off to go in
13:04
like hundred down pirates. I'm sorry what
13:06
happened to the meditate at all for
13:09
you guys Beatles see supra meditate and
13:11
now they're dying on. Threads.
13:13
Six assists Ssssss. Leon
13:16
them in as one example:
13:18
Fifteen Fifty Three where these monks
13:20
michelle than one a series
13:22
of victories that really buffet
13:24
since two thousand A story with
13:26
the fifteen forties and fifteen
13:28
fifties. Source: Huge number of
13:30
raids by pirates on the east
13:33
coast of China, especially in
13:35
the young non region. The pirates
13:37
even starts to move inland and
13:40
pillaged wall cities and these
13:42
pirates were know as Roll
13:44
Call and more Coal. Literally
13:46
meant Japanese bandits, but there were
13:48
not all Japanese, some of them
13:50
foreigners possibly dots, possibly Portuguese, and
13:53
of also actually a large number
13:55
of actual Chinese people who joined
13:57
the pirates and were involved in.
14:00
Illegal overseas traits are so the
14:02
real cosmopolitan dream as like very
14:04
lists kosher Polish and Pres yeah
14:07
allow ours is very progressive, it's
14:09
very multicultural and so insisting fifty
14:11
free The Sound and Monks allegedly
14:13
won series of really important victories
14:16
against the pirates at a place
14:18
called When Jack Gang and Hundred
14:20
supply routes were allegedly killed and
14:23
only for Shaolin Monks died Well
14:25
it's like when you watch when
14:27
you read a rare Batman comic.
14:30
Where he kills someone you like Feminists are
14:32
supposed to do that. Assess assess Now Liam,
14:34
I don't have this is an obvious question,
14:36
but the seems to be a pretty glaring.
14:39
Conflict. Here, between the Buddhist
14:41
monks presumed commitment to peace
14:43
and meditation and moderation and
14:45
them literally going on killing
14:47
pirates with their bare hands,
14:49
how did they the system,
14:51
how do they hold those
14:53
two philosophies at once? So
14:55
fighting is indeed at odds
14:58
with for this philosophy and
15:00
historians have looked into yeah
15:02
that evolution of this the
15:04
might be some reasons and
15:06
pragmatic reasons for those on
15:08
and temple. Monks to deviate from
15:10
the path of peace and take
15:12
up violence. These will increase our
15:15
protection and then also it's political
15:17
pragmatism so they want to be
15:19
noticed and have a say on
15:21
Chinese Empire. Paul the Sacrifice that
15:23
was a Classic Ming a manual
15:26
called the Scene. Use Transformation Classic
15:28
Sixteen Twenty Four for the title
15:30
fill when you could call your
15:32
book Senior Transformation Classic. You've missed
15:34
out there since since. Amazing Classic
15:37
or yeah, the bus when they
15:39
brought. The brand back. Because
15:41
it had gone wrong cause they'd
15:43
done been rebranded Old by to
15:45
Times and Moonlight. Let's sell the
15:47
original version as he recalled due
15:49
to the classic Assist the resources
15:52
Ssssss and it was composed by
15:54
the author known as the Purple
15:56
Coagulation Man of the Way is
15:58
while Ssssss confusing title aside. The
16:00
text the we've mentioned it a second went
16:02
full text. It's really important the combined shall
16:04
in fighting techniques. With. The Dow
16:06
Is system of self cultivation we
16:08
heard about the beginning be upset
16:10
Leon So we finally got the
16:12
fusion of the fighting stuff and
16:14
the the health stuff and they're
16:16
coming together under sixteen twenties. Yeah
16:18
so they a senior transformation classic
16:20
which by the way it's also
16:23
translated as be a tendon Moving
16:25
classics as is kind of we
16:27
attack so combines military and fair
16:29
if you take an religious ideas
16:31
into said one book sold a
16:33
Pow training the body but potentially
16:35
also. making one invulnerable or
16:37
immortal from the seventeenth century
16:39
own words sound and monks.
16:41
because of the Senior Transformation
16:43
classic, they began to increasingly
16:45
focus on unarmed combat to
16:47
the extent that the staff
16:49
now was kind of deemphasize.
16:51
And in the seventeenth century
16:53
and the on week we're
16:55
getting household manuals as well
16:57
starting to appear and is
16:59
offering advice on household management
17:01
and lifestyle choices. So anything
17:03
from like arithmetic, divination, nutrition,
17:05
Or yet. Recipes, arts, jokes, even
17:08
ideas about romance, eccentrics, actress. And
17:10
they're also sections on unarmed combat
17:12
and self defense for the entire
17:15
family. and some not. everybody's doing
17:17
kung fu fighting is as other
17:19
branches of martial arts. this woo
17:22
Done this Tie t. But.
17:24
The one I want to talk about
17:26
his got beautiful named Winston which means
17:28
beautiful spring time. But. It's charming
17:30
name for extreme violence fill
17:32
beautiful spring time to be
17:34
getting your as secession around
17:36
Wings Hon is it. Come
17:38
from style emphasize the say
17:40
hi stands and very very
17:42
small close range movement so
17:45
like small chaps as opposed
17:47
to set of like from
17:49
long range punching an indie
17:51
twentieth century and origin story
17:53
and legend arose.wings and have
17:55
been taught by being more
17:57
and more was a mistake,
17:59
sound and. None and see
18:01
towards wing turn to a teenage
18:03
girl caught gym wing chun so
18:05
when turn is the name of
18:08
this young girl because she was
18:10
basically just constantly harassed and she
18:12
had like unwanted sexual advances and
18:15
a marriage proposals and so this
18:17
mythical sound and done taught this
18:19
home for to this young down
18:22
and okay so you can just
18:24
go and. Beat. Up all
18:26
these mattress men and harasses. so
18:28
that's the sort of legendary origin
18:30
story in reality winch and probably
18:32
develop relatively recently. So we talking
18:34
about the late nineteen, maybe even
18:36
early twentieth century in a city
18:38
code for Sun which is in
18:40
Guangdong Province in Southern China. Well,
18:42
you mentioned the late nineteenth century
18:45
under and Guangdong Province se China
18:47
which means hooray. Hit on the
18:49
British, The ruin of As Air
18:51
In the late nineteenth century, we
18:53
are talking about the European Colonial
18:55
empire. Into South China and the horrible
18:57
stories. That. Come from that but it's
18:59
this process there by will be start to
19:01
get people in the west becoming aware. Of.
19:04
Kung Fu because of things like the
19:06
Boxer Rebellion. With Brits. Call
19:08
the the uprising from the between
19:10
these people. So Leon this is
19:12
a it's complicated piece of political
19:14
history. but in terms of the
19:17
most love story is this a
19:19
ton of really important meeting of
19:21
east and west status as a
19:23
very important moment. So in the
19:25
way to sort of western and
19:27
pair interference particularly to opium wars,
19:29
martial arts became associated with the
19:31
assertion off on Chinese identity A
19:33
became so popular that kind of
19:36
actually threatens the state so. Martial
19:38
arts training was outlawed by
19:40
dissing Dynasty. An actual number
19:42
of kung fu masters were
19:44
executed because didn't started to
19:46
pose as security problem. These
19:48
themes contributor to days of
19:50
uprisings in the nineteenth century
19:52
soda Boxer Rebellion which is
19:55
eighty Ninety Eight to Ninety
19:57
No One and it's named
19:59
after the. Depends who were
20:01
martial artist hands, their boxes and
20:03
the Boxer Rebellion and their come
20:06
from styles became known to Britain
20:08
through a number of channels like
20:10
minutes or reports, our diplomats and
20:13
martial arts auto. A lot of
20:15
it was Japanese started to appear
20:17
in this country and and Britain
20:20
from around the late nineteenth century.
20:22
so Edward bought and right invented
20:24
something called it Bought It Sue
20:26
which is based on the Japanese
20:29
to sit through. Which the
20:31
suffragettes stand lands wow or self defense
20:33
nine idea of the suffragettes new com
20:35
flu doesn't credible so if you when
20:38
when when your own martial arts what
20:40
we to call it and what would
20:42
involve oh. Man. Tell. What?
20:44
John Nice, nice. Wang Chung
20:47
is a highly aggressive. This
20:49
is completely unfair. Matsunaga is
20:51
random. he comes out of
20:54
know as it is a
20:56
highly unjust. It
20:59
is a. Good
21:01
sit on society and the
21:03
government will try. And stop
21:05
was just like they tried and
21:07
stop trying to stop the sound. A
21:10
masters in China, not swine to assess
21:12
as great yeah to a dojo dare
21:14
you say running other franchises. Not
21:19
brings us rather beautifully to Bruce Lee's.
21:21
Phil Duff. Must! The fans will
21:24
know you from your iconic and somewhat
21:26
scandalous yellow jumpsuit. So and toss ministers
21:28
a toss Must! I wore Bruce Lee's
21:30
Game of Death outfits which I wanted
21:33
to do as an A Mas to
21:35
Bruce Lee but it ended up being
21:37
on a Mas. To. My
21:40
own reproductive capabilities. So.
21:44
Why do we get Bruce Lee? What Is
21:46
it? Historically cult? Read this happening in China?
21:49
And Southeast Asia. That gives us. This.
21:52
New. Since. Cinematic art
21:54
form. When. D C C
21:56
P to Chinese Communist Party came
21:58
to power and trying to nineteen
22:00
forty nine. The state actually got
22:03
involved in kung fu and downplayed
22:05
a lot of their spiritual and
22:07
contemplative elements, transforming kung fu into
22:10
a former sports and exercise. And
22:12
so a lot of kung fu
22:14
masters actually left for Hong Kong
22:17
or Taiwan or America or European
22:19
countries and not include a Bruce
22:21
Lee's teacher Eat Man who left
22:24
for Hong Kong. I think it
22:26
was a nice and fifty zooming
22:28
to cultural revolution period. So we
22:31
now we're into nineteen Sixty Six
22:33
Two Nineteen Seventy Six Martial Arts
22:35
then came to be seen as
22:38
elitists and corrupt and superstitious and
22:40
so forth. And and this letter
22:43
even more Kung fu masters leaving
22:45
China for western countries so filled
22:47
you get and of. Governmental.
22:50
Crackdown on a much loved which gives
22:53
us. Bruce. Lee Essentially yes,
22:55
right his ear. His family was immune
22:57
from San Francisco of me. Bruce Lee?
22:59
Yeah, and so he has He So
23:02
when back as it were to Hong
23:04
Kong. And sort of kickstarted
23:06
the couple movie industry you will,
23:08
His games, Death Outfit. On
23:11
I know the beginning of your book. You
23:13
talk about Bruce Lee as a sort of
23:15
been an icon. A Yeah! I had a
23:17
formative experience of going to Brazil exhibition in
23:19
Hong Kong. And. The
23:21
have is ounces our that a lot
23:24
of photos of him, lots of footage
23:26
of him and he was just so
23:28
i haven't appreciated for just are like
23:30
powerful. And confident and
23:32
sexy. He was. And it
23:34
must have been. I mean is still
23:37
is to me of that nine now.
23:39
A pretty. Revolutionary. Idea
23:41
of like the very sexy Chinese guy.
23:44
And. He was doing it in New know. Was.
23:46
It the sixties or seventies. And
23:48
he built like a whole culture,
23:50
whole industry and entire cultural movement.
23:52
Emilio on the did services that
23:54
movies he made. It's funny thing
23:56
is of Death, the Green Hornet
23:58
into the Dragon. And. We get
24:01
to sort of kung fu craze almost,
24:03
which then leads on to subsequent. The.
24:05
Other artists. And. He's
24:07
also developing his own martial arts
24:09
leon as me ask so he
24:11
develop a martial art style coat
24:13
she couldn't All what's true on
24:15
a number of influences primarily wing
24:17
chun but also from Shaolin kung
24:19
fu and I guess really asked
24:21
for was saying was Bruce Lee
24:24
really brought to the table and
24:26
that was kind of unique to
24:28
Bruce Lee a he worse incorporating
24:30
kind of west in bodybuilding, couches
24:32
and fact muscles and who come
24:34
through and he also at the
24:36
same. Time he promotes had
24:38
quite a kind of violent
24:40
and they are all A's
24:43
and masculinity and a kind
24:45
as like Chinese nationalism and
24:47
Asian prize that proved very
24:49
important actually and also commercially
24:52
incredibly successful in sign of
24:54
Phone communities but also with
24:56
Western audiences and Bruce Lee
24:58
would pave the way for
25:00
Chinese stars like Jackie Chan
25:03
and Jet Li and Michelle
25:05
Yeoh and he also influence.
25:07
Often directly to careers of Hollywood
25:09
stars of white Hollywood stars like
25:12
David Carradine who was a course
25:14
in Com Food series and also
25:16
fell from Kill Bill and one
25:19
a Breezy students worse as Norris
25:21
and One Song or s the
25:23
internet favorites meme South North ssssss
25:25
so I mean Bruce Lee is
25:28
this incredible icon of ancient story.
25:30
Going back Really? what can take
25:32
a bath? Let's you know thousand
25:35
is so that's a long. Long
25:37
history when. He.
25:44
Says but part of the show were still
25:46
and I clearly practice some bus it pulls
25:48
her while the on cells or something that
25:51
we need to know so my stopwatch is
25:53
ready. it's of the Leon take it away
25:55
place. While I want to say a little
25:57
bit about what's happening and sound and temple
25:59
these. If so, if you're not
26:01
satisfy was just watching kung fu
26:03
on a big screen or small
26:05
screen you can learn kung for
26:07
you can visit the south and
26:09
ten for yourself and do a
26:11
quote unquote, shout and come through
26:14
summer school either actually have to
26:16
become buddhist monk to do that
26:18
The shallow and by the nineteen
26:20
nineties and two thousands has become
26:22
a major tourist center with more
26:24
than a million visitors every year.
26:26
It has his own kind of
26:28
performing troop that would are. Regularly
26:30
toward a world doesn't have to
26:32
show sound in martial arts academy
26:34
which tens of thousands of students
26:37
and many of the students would
26:39
go on to become professional athletes
26:41
or maybe even movie star or
26:43
a soldiers and elite military units
26:46
in China or the personal bodyguards
26:48
for Chinese billionaires and is traveling
26:50
to China's visit. The sounds simple
26:52
sounds too time consuming and far
26:55
too expensive. You can learn sounding
26:57
kung fu at one of the
26:59
many quote. South and franchise schools
27:01
in law cities around a
27:03
while, this one London, this
27:06
one, Paris is when Berlin,
27:08
This one, New York, this
27:10
one in San Cisco and
27:12
all of this is a
27:14
result as China's economic reforms
27:16
in the nineteen eighties and
27:18
Ninety nineties and this level
27:20
of com modification of tradition
27:22
and consumption of tradition were
27:24
part of the unleashing off
27:26
entrepreneur realism and market forces
27:28
on to Chinese society. And
27:30
it was something that
27:32
was actively supported and
27:34
endorsed by debt Chinese state.
27:37
So here you have come
27:39
to meet capitalism. An
27:42
unstoppable partnership.
27:44
Ssssss. Was
27:47
like so much sell Thank you. So much so
27:49
that the Leon and listener is after today's episode
27:51
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very much And to quote Bruce Lee
28:21
Be water my friend. I've no idea
28:23
what I mean. Any
28:27
comedy gonna we have Cirrhosis, the funny sell
28:29
wine thank you feel it's been a pleasure
28:31
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28:33
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28:35
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