0:00

Hello. Oh,

0:13

we're here. We're

0:15

here podcasting. Everything's

0:19

fine. We're doing it. We're doing

0:21

it. How's it going, Tawny? Yo, is

0:23

this racist? Andrew Cheech,

0:25

Tawny News. Producer Kevin is here. Yep. We're

0:28

here. We're out of time. We

0:31

might be. We might have. We're

0:33

not in time with all of you. It's a different

0:35

day than when you're listening, which I

0:37

guess is always true. It's

0:47

always true, but this is extra true. We

0:50

are so far out. It's genuinely

0:54

the world, the whole world could be a different

0:56

place. Let's see. Let me look at my phone

0:59

and think about it. I don't think

1:01

people care. I think everyone's going to be like, we know what

1:03

day it is. Get to it, you guys. That's

1:05

true. They know what day it is. I

1:08

might be on a plane, I think,

1:10

when this episode comes out. I

1:12

might be. I'm going

1:14

to be somewhere wild, but we can talk about it later. Yeah.

1:17

This is the show where we eventually

1:19

get your racism voicemails, but we started

1:22

adding a new thing where we

1:24

have opened the floor up to

1:26

two things. One, to text messages.

1:29

That's right. We've entered the 2010s and

1:31

we now said, you don't just have to leave

1:33

a voicemail. You can text us. That

1:36

has proven to be. I'll

1:38

call it moderately successful. I

1:41

feel like sometimes the texts, I

1:43

don't know what it is. I

1:46

think it's a little, not like too casual,

1:49

but I think people just

1:52

zap out a text. They

1:56

don't have to think about their voice

1:58

being Broadcast to me. Millions

2:00

or million the airlines have.

2:03

Brothers, it's not as much or regard for what

2:05

out what all were all it's going to go.

2:08

right? So are you trying to tell

2:10

people? Don't test us like we're wanting a little

2:12

friends. Were

2:15

not only a little so don't be Texas like.

2:18

Don't. Don't know. It's

2:20

okay. It's as I think it's

2:22

sad. It's good that we have.

2:24

I'm happy that we have text

2:26

messages by all. So. I.

2:28

Am of the opinion that. You're

2:31

less likely to get out there who text.

2:33

Who. So you gotta be

2:35

really he got of yeah you can

2:38

if you've gotta do it. I.

2:40

Know my dad by okay here's why

2:42

I'm here to be really interesting of

2:44

all. and the second thing we opened

2:46

up to doing is a general advice

2:49

questions whether or whatever medium, text or

2:51

voicemail. but yeah outside of racism as

2:53

he just think we might know about

2:55

a thing. Or. Not happy

2:57

to answer or does here to

2:59

help because that's all even the

3:01

racism advice ads are being. his

3:03

lights come on. Come.

3:06

On the all. Is a fact

3:08

I'm so much of our of our advice.

3:10

Well sounds like come on. Tells

3:12

us that this is this is

3:15

a advice and how to act

3:17

right Show not a racism discusses.

3:20

This. Is of an ashtray.

3:22

He I thought as rights.

3:25

People. Don't act right and I am not

3:27

when he a little friends. Andrew though might

3:30

be one of your little friends. Is your

3:32

text messages interesting and us. I.

3:35

Say I'd probably as I Here's here's although:

3:37

yeah, I'd. Pay their. This.

3:39

Is a, you know what? I read

3:42

a reversal seems innocuous. I do have

3:44

a racism answer to this one. Stay

3:46

there since you're open up to just

3:48

general advice. I'd love to get some

3:50

cooking advice from you. I cook tofu

3:53

fairly regularly. I just stick with a

3:55

basic soy sauce oil, garlic marinate. What

3:57

are other marinates I can use with

3:59

Whole Foods? him? fix up. Thanks for

4:02

the human. Soy sauce is racist because.

4:05

Tiffany's. Know who that we're math

4:07

know? Here's here's what it is is

4:09

this idea that you have to marinate

4:11

tofu. I think this is this is

4:14

some the some will call it Americans

4:16

said because like tofu is great and

4:18

has it's own flavor and lights are

4:21

there is I think I think part

4:23

of Adelson isn't Pupils are very much.

4:26

Complicit. In this but one

4:28

of the big selling points

4:30

that I see are consistently

4:32

of harder like to sell

4:34

the idea of tofu to.

4:37

Americans, Is

4:40

a say you hear a lot which

4:42

is liked to have was great because

4:45

it's just it's a sponge. it takes

4:47

on any sauce that you put on

4:49

it. I'm but toll has a flavor

4:51

and it is a food on it's

4:54

own. The other are one of the

4:56

biggest like unnecessary by necessary arguments. I

4:58

got it when I was in college

5:00

arms. A friend of mine. Was.

5:04

Dating. This person who do not like very much

5:06

who was. Sick

5:08

wasn't vegetarian, but like. You

5:12

know, kind of had that like white hippie

5:14

kind of vibe. like had been vegetarian or

5:16

new. it's but basically. I.

5:18

I was just talking about lights I

5:21

think as as you know, as as

5:23

the like. This is something like people

5:25

college, right? software years. Something like that

5:27

solves it. Either So

5:30

parcel part of this is on

5:32

me by it's I was just

5:34

like I sigma civil had never

5:36

heard of my portal for before

5:38

So that's like tofu with like

5:41

a sauce that has like it's

5:43

er it's a spicy sauce but

5:45

not always but often that has

5:47

our ground pork at it and

5:49

this this person was like lasted

5:51

me I was like pork and

5:54

tofu. that totally defeats the point.

5:57

Like are like what is. He.

5:59

Would. Think the point is

6:02

yes matter what, Wanna eat?

6:04

Sure. Maybe a dozen? Maybe somewhere. You

6:06

want to eat Ma'am Pr. Why?

6:08

I see it was. This is the the

6:10

one of the first time I crystallize

6:13

a fox. you kind of yours this

6:15

races type response or device. Oh, I

6:17

didn't realize that tofu was invented so

6:20

that white vegetarians could pretend to eat

6:22

meat. play, play, play as what some

6:24

people to think of it only as

6:26

the substitute. And why else would you

6:29

eat this unless? yeah to Terry An.

6:31

As. Yet as good as it's thirty

6:34

am. healthy. Gap. So.

6:36

Yeah that is also bad Bad as a

6:38

thing I would say to this person is

6:40

like yeah I heard of the site is

6:43

like having a marinate it would I Love.

6:45

Like. A Eight cures tofu as

6:48

listeners to Arcs Premium so you're

6:50

clueless and also the sofa will

6:52

bow the oliver off on the

6:55

look for yourself. Oh Saga habits

6:57

of status of often thought of

6:59

that caught your eye off to

7:02

bluff less racism, more tofu. Of

7:05

rather than lover but I think this idea

7:07

that you have to have had i'm. Marinated

7:10

or like overly sauce and some max.

7:12

Ah but this does lead me to

7:14

the thing that I did I saw

7:17

yesterday from i once as I had

7:19

it's of half a block of firm

7:21

tofu. last and I caught it into

7:23

like. Pilots. Maybe.

7:26

Maybe. Like a third of an inch thick

7:29

slices. Or real thin slices. And.

7:31

Fried fried suffices to

7:33

straight up. Hell,

7:35

there was a kind of a

7:38

crisp on both sides and then

7:40

that used, ah to salt. Salt.

7:43

On those motherfuckers and then

7:45

some like sign on second

7:47

style. And

7:50

Ginger scallion oil. Model

7:53

for the very mild flavor, but it

7:55

was very like just sort of tofu.

7:57

a little bit a little bit of

7:59

silly chris. There were young

8:02

an airstrike, Atlanta

8:04

tofu nugget ruling.

8:06

Ah, Sides. Users that

8:08

to twice or sometimes three times

8:10

freeze and thaw. Method for the tofu if

8:12

I'm. Thinking about it throughout the week. That

8:15

like real crisis texture. Eyes

8:18

on Victory. Squeeze all the water out of it's

8:20

I normally put a couple tea towels around it

8:22

and stick my that's how than on top of

8:24

it for few hours of fact I just ripping

8:26

into little chunks and then I season is however

8:29

you want but as and seasoning it to the

8:31

fault. Of the season at

8:33

what sort of the were season tacos I guess.

8:36

I. Just as as flavors like silky Paprika

8:38

and South and then yeah, You

8:40

can give it a little bit of a light

8:42

bulb or whatever used to like. He.

8:45

Healthy fried chicken if you like, do

8:47

like a buttermilk. Whatever. Bath

8:49

and the flour and cornstarch of stuff

8:51

worth like an egg, egg batter has

8:53

a thing as and some sort of

8:55

breading or panko or whatever you want

8:57

and then i'd are in the air

8:59

fryer that makes usually crispy little tofu.

9:01

know that down. The. Since Gray

9:03

or it is our own ip be

9:05

mandated at all, I just season and

9:07

now. Here. Puts. A.season

9:10

at. The same. Content.

9:12

Like it's know This podcast will

9:14

never say don't season something suffered

9:17

different tests. I do think sometimes

9:19

that. A With the food

9:21

tic toc that gets served for

9:23

me, people may be going to

9:25

little overboard with. Services.

9:28

With the seasoning. Like

9:30

the guns it has, it's it'll

9:33

idol. Performative, odd video. Bad.

9:35

As an aside, ours is now this is too

9:37

salty I would if I bid on as I

9:40

could tell. I agree

9:42

Principles as without think we

9:44

should suck based on visual

9:47

this. Yeah. That's that's

9:49

probably fits of test if

9:51

is. good for

9:53

to go to texts yeah message

9:56

case goods ah i'm the thought

9:58

i'd rather our make it taste

10:00

good. How do you consider fucking

10:02

making it taste good when you

10:04

cook? Be normal, make it

10:06

taste good, and don't be racist about

10:08

your tofu. That's our fucking advice that

10:11

we're giving out. We are

10:13

right though. Oh, the the frozen tofu thing.

10:15

That is my favorite thing is frozen tofu

10:17

in hot pot, which is

10:19

my absolute favorite. I'm guessing, unfortunately, that

10:22

because this is a person who wrote

10:24

in, they are cooking

10:26

tofu because they're vegetarian. And I do understand

10:28

that that is a thing that's it's a

10:31

thing that's okay to do. But I'm just

10:33

going to keep suggesting tofu and meat because

10:35

those are my two favorite combinations.

10:40

If you like soap and tofu, and this will be the last

10:42

piece of advice I give about this,

10:45

we can move on to the racism.

10:47

If you like the texture of soap

10:49

and tofu, I was very inspired after

10:51

we went to enemy of the show,

10:53

Jessica Gao's birthday party and her good

10:55

friend had made a tofu jigae, a

10:57

kimchi jigae. Like a Korean

10:59

kimchi, spicy kimchi and tofu soup.

11:02

And there was no meat in that. And

11:04

not a Korean, not a Korean there, by

11:06

the way. No, no Koreans there

11:08

whatsoever. But they nailed it. But

11:10

I went home thinking like,

11:13

Oh, I'll make like a, you know, a

11:15

random black girl trying her hand at making

11:17

some Korean food. But it was surprisingly there's

11:19

a low, low bar to clear of making

11:21

that taste pretty good. If you just find

11:23

find a recipe written preferably by a Korean

11:26

person on the internet. And it's

11:28

really simple and very, very tasty way

11:30

to make silken tofu. Well,

11:33

part of it too is the kimchi goes

11:35

quite a long way towards handling the flavors.

11:37

Kimchi gochujang is really doing

11:40

the heavy lifting, but it is delish.

11:43

Yeah. Yeah. I

11:46

also just like, yeah, fried that was what happened to

11:48

the other half of that block of tofu. Just

11:51

like fried it little salt and then that and

11:53

kimchi. And you know what

11:55

my biggest thing is my biggest tip to

11:57

anyone who's cooking any sort of soups at

11:59

all, especially especially vegetarians, if you

12:02

have an instant pot, just make your

12:04

own broth. It changes everything. If you

12:06

have anything that you braise, if you

12:09

braise collard greens, or stewed, I guess,

12:11

technically, anything that you use veggie

12:13

broth for, just make it yourself.

12:15

It takes 30 minutes. Just keep all your

12:17

odds and ends, your scraps of vegetables,

12:19

every time you peel an onion or a garlic, every

12:21

time you cut tops off a carrot, the

12:24

ends off of celery, stick it in a gallon freezer bag

12:26

in your freezer. Once that freezer bag is full,

12:28

just take the whole thing and dump it in

12:30

your instant pot, cover the veggies

12:32

with water, throw some salt in

12:34

there, some fresh garlic, and pressure

12:37

cook it for 30 minutes and then strain

12:39

out all the vegetable trash. And you'll have

12:41

the best vegetable stock. And

12:43

it changes. I've been doing that.

12:45

We just got, because in LA you're

12:47

supposed to compost everything now, apparently. And

12:52

I guess it was through the city, or

12:55

our city council person, sent

12:58

these compost bins. And I looked at the list of

13:00

the stuff that's supposed to go in the compost bin,

13:02

and I'm like, that's

13:04

my stock material. You can't compost

13:06

in this. That's stock

13:08

treasure. That's my stock. My

13:11

whole freezer is full of vegetable

13:14

trash, basically, and crab shells. It's

13:17

crazy in there. But, you know, that's

13:19

my little- You're a little ratatouille. I'm

13:21

a little ratatouille. And

13:25

then you compost it after. Yeah,

13:28

that's true. I guess I should compost it after.

13:31

It's just, it's just, that's

13:33

the time when all the nutrients and color

13:35

and flavor have been extracted in some way

13:37

or the other. Did you

13:39

like this segment? We give advice that's

13:41

supposed to not necessarily be about racism, but

13:43

somehow we made it about racism? Still got mad.

13:48

Just have the tofu. Just

13:51

have the tofu normal. Okay, do

13:53

we take a wee break? I'm sorry,

13:55

Kevin was in the, had some

13:57

studio stuff to handle also.

14:00

During our talk so do you have any

14:02

tofu back here tofu weigh-ins? I Love

14:05

it. Hell. Yeah. Oh, yeah

14:24

Much cleaner than when I arrived Yeah

14:31

Speaking of our bullshit Yeah,

14:34

what's what's let's do a

14:36

couple of voicemails Kevin. I think

14:38

probably race versus cultures great

14:41

I don't know. Yep. I'll play that now Yeah,

14:44

this is able seven. I wanted to add

14:46

a quick or ask a quick question What

14:48

you thought the difference between culture and line?

14:51

obviously the difference between culture and race, but Where

14:55

do you it seems to me

14:57

like a lot of the answers that you give

14:59

or people when people ask things It sounds like

15:01

this is really about culture and

15:03

you And you

15:05

guys are like no, this is racist So

15:08

I don't know. I just like want to know

15:10

what you think about it Like what's the difference between

15:12

race and culture a little bit why I'm so interested

15:14

in this comes from Partly because

15:16

I I trained in anthropology and stuff at

15:19

graduate school and along with a lot of

15:21

other things But anyway, just just just a

15:23

thought so just wanted to hear you guys

15:26

talk about like how you really draw that

15:28

distinction Anyway, thanks. Bye We

15:32

think about the difference between race

15:34

and culture you must

15:36

have anthropologists and college. Yeah To

15:39

comedy clowns to tell you the difference

15:41

between race and culture on comedy podcasts

15:44

that mostly talk about Star Trek and

15:46

vegetable stock We

15:48

are sir. I'm hand-bad to

15:51

inform you That the

15:53

answer is you know, we don't fucking

15:55

know you know better than us dogs.

15:58

Come on and like out of here What

16:00

are you trying to do? You're trying to get us in trouble? You sounded

16:03

very nice. You sounded just asking a genuine question.

16:05

But like, this is one

16:07

of those questions that I'm like, if you want

16:10

the real science answer, that's

16:12

when the internet's your friend or

16:14

your anthropology degree, I would guess.

16:17

Yeah, your own training

16:20

is where you should look. But

16:23

I do have an answer to this. I

16:25

did select this question because I do have

16:27

an answer to this, which

16:30

is because the trap

16:32

portion of it was the

16:34

part where he was like, you guys seem like you're

16:36

talking about culture when you mean race or

16:39

sorry, you seem like you

16:41

say race by you mean culture. And

16:44

to me, the answer is,

16:47

yeah, because that's how you like talk to normal

16:49

people. What? What?

16:52

Like, sure, I guess technically

16:55

we're talking about race, but no

16:57

one. Someone is discriminating against

16:59

my rich cultural background as

17:01

a black person, as the

17:04

cultural signifiers that I

17:06

when I was in the Sprouts Market at

17:08

self checkout earlier today, this is a true

17:10

story. And the woman was staring me down

17:12

to make sure I scanned every single item

17:14

and was not staring at anybody else. So

17:16

the point I left, I was like, would

17:19

you like to check my receipt? She was like, No,

17:21

I was like, you sure you were looking at me real hard.

17:24

You want to look at my receipt, make sure I got everything

17:26

here, take a minute, look at it. Yeah,

17:28

that that was that

17:31

was culturally offensive to

17:34

me. Yeah. It

17:36

was culturalist. Culturalist.

17:39

I think to me, it's that's the reason

17:42

is like, because

17:44

there's no way to, and again, call

17:46

you do genuinely seem fairly nice. And

17:48

like you're actually asking, but

17:51

There's like, because the reason is

17:53

there's no like way to talk

17:55

to normal people without saying some

17:57

version of, well, actually, And

18:01

then. And. Then do it

18:03

with hawk race horses culture business wrong

18:05

because he only go. So

18:07

many cultural things are says

18:09

the signifiers. Of what often

18:12

unifies a reindeer all like that's how

18:14

we if you're not writing an anthropological

18:16

paper, if we just talk and people

18:18

that their experience and and how they

18:21

move to the world. Yeah

18:24

like it at the as as a what we're

18:26

talking about is. You

18:28

know, people experiencing prejudice

18:30

or discrimination? Based on

18:32

how they look a or a

18:35

cultural the you know saying that

18:37

they're doing our thing that they're

18:39

wearing. That. It hides

18:41

to their race soldier. Yeah.

18:44

Like there's okay, I'm sure

18:46

like there are useful differences

18:49

but they're not so useful

18:51

at those differences. Com up

18:53

very often or like get

18:55

the answers of like because

18:58

that's how normal people talk.

19:01

You. Know it's a little bit like

19:03

the saying that has become more popular

19:05

science. Bomb. The

19:07

blog uses race has started which is

19:10

as you know this like idea that

19:12

people are like understanding before white power

19:14

and power dynamics and like prejudice and

19:16

this but it is like. As

19:18

the other day. It's.

19:21

Still like by big like pedantic

19:23

energy to be like wow have

19:26

you know actually. Get

19:28

worse. What? Here's what racism is

19:31

technically and I'm like, yeah, but.

19:33

That's. His way to help you talk

19:36

to anyone really so like okay

19:38

shore on I am not I'm

19:40

guilty of this kind of like

19:42

well actually you know tumbler oriented

19:44

point of view to for I'm

19:46

like. It because it

19:48

doesn't work. If is it like convince second

19:50

wind. And. So. Last.

19:53

Wired. We don't have any

19:56

coach and distinction between culture

19:58

and race and. I don't know. I always

20:00

know, this isn't always the case, but I don't always

20:02

know that the practical application of any

20:04

of our advice would be different. Like,

20:08

we're not saying like, okay, your boss,

20:12

you know, called you, I

20:14

have this

20:17

example of a friend whose boss was like, if

20:19

a customer, she's black, and it was like, if

20:21

a customer calls you Shaniqua, then you're just,

20:23

just say your name Shaniqua. And I was like,

20:25

why'd you choose that name? Like,

20:27

yeah, technically, that's a

20:29

culturalist comment based

20:32

on the way that black

20:34

people often culturally choose

20:36

names. It's not like that. Like, what

20:38

is that, what is that doing for

20:40

me to point out that that's based

20:42

on culture and not race? I don't

20:45

even know if that's a good example, but I am

20:47

just like, what's the practical application of this if you're

20:49

not literally an anthropologist? Yeah, I

20:51

think, I think, you know, beyond that

20:53

is there's actually like some elements of

20:55

like, it derails the

20:58

conversation because here's the thing, the

21:00

distinction between culture and race. As

21:04

like, that's not the debate here.

21:08

Like, it that's just

21:10

like choosing fucking vocabulary. And

21:13

I guess, you know, I'm sure

21:15

the caller or a more, you

21:17

know, academically oriented anthropologists would

21:20

argue, but that's it.

21:23

That's important words have meaning, blah, blah, blah,

21:25

blah, blah. We're noticing words don't have

21:27

meaning. It's just that like, functionally

21:29

for people, those meanings are different than what

21:31

you want them to be. So

21:35

like, yeah, I don't

21:38

know, race and culture are for

21:40

practical purposes. Indistinguishable is why we

21:42

don't make a distinction. Often,

21:44

often. Yeah. And

21:47

if it's not, then we can have a talk about it.

21:49

But I don't know. Fucking

21:51

anthropologists calling in asking us questions.

21:53

We don't know. We

21:55

don't know. We don't know. It doesn't matter. Yeah.

21:58

We and we know that, you know. And

22:01

that's good that you know, because somebody needs to know,

22:03

but not us. And it's not

22:05

us. It can't be us. Could

22:08

it be us, literally? We're two. We

22:11

don't have that in us. Great

22:13

job, we can tell you to make your own vegetable stock.

22:16

God damn it. Oh boy. Stop buying the

22:18

stuff that tastes like the inside of a cardboard

22:20

box. That's your passion. You

22:23

can't change your soups. That's my passion. That's

22:25

my culture as an insufferable woman who owns

22:27

an instant pot. That's real instant pot culture,

22:29

not race. Do

22:31

you think I'm going to make some

22:33

black bean soup? I have carrots and

22:35

celery and black beans. Oh, prime candidate

22:38

for using your own stock, my friend.

22:40

That's going to really make this black

22:42

bean sing. Boy,

22:44

oh boy. I'm low on

22:46

stock, actually. I got to figure out what I'm going to

22:48

do. Oh no, you need some stock. I

22:50

hope you got a lot of red onion skin in

22:53

that stock. That's really going to make it sing. Not

22:56

enough. Shit. I'm going to

22:58

figure it out. Maybe I'll just buy some vegetables just

23:00

to make stock with. That's

23:02

not a bad idea. That's crazy. What

23:05

are you talking about? That is a bad idea. You could

23:07

still use them. I mean, just the ends, just the

23:09

trash, just the phagas. And then still use the

23:11

veggies. Make a little salad.

23:14

I need more onion trash. Okay. Onion,

23:17

trash, and salad. One more voicemail? Yeah,

23:20

let's do it. Hey

23:24

guys, I'm a middle-aged

23:26

white guy. I work at a

23:28

relatively large office building. And I

23:31

have a black colleague who,

23:34

whenever I run into him in the halls, he's

23:37

very friendly and we chitchat from time to time. He generally

23:40

begins our conversation by

23:42

saying, hey boss man,

23:44

how are you doing? Or hey boss. And

23:48

obviously I am feeling very disinclined to say

23:50

to him, gee, that makes me feel a

23:52

little weird or maybe you could stop calling

23:55

me that. I'm not going to go there.

23:58

But it is a strange... The

24:00

pyramid and I'm wondering what you

24:02

all think about it. It's trees

24:04

to hear your thoughts said. thanks

24:07

for help. It's delightful. A few

24:09

years as Ticker. Oh.

24:13

Yeah why colleague five man hours of like

24:15

I know is that it is a threat

24:17

than our like the upper thigh just a

24:19

Santa hat and a lot of that's what

24:21

I hope Op and. I

24:23

feel like that's very possible. Yeah,

24:25

yeah, the whole point is the

24:27

squirm. So. You're

24:30

just gonna live in the square. My gas. Only

24:33

and he definitely can say. Like

24:35

that makes me feel a little weird

24:37

and unlike laugh about it and like

24:39

out. You know that's not

24:41

bad. You could. You're allowed to tell someone

24:44

pays a thing you're calling me. Makes me

24:46

feel strange that that transcends. read Saturday nights

24:48

Or if you're allowed to say that if

24:50

people feel. I feel

24:53

like I listen advices to say

24:55

a slice of eight he faces

24:57

mess by this. I get that

24:59

to a lot. I feel like

25:02

I get more often from I'm

25:04

like south Indian. folks.

25:06

Adams whatever and various

25:09

service sectors of. Because.

25:11

That also has that what kind of like. Real.

25:14

Like a. Real

25:16

Asians like. Colonialism.

25:18

Vibes to out wherever. Oh.

25:23

Of this but I give myself after that.

25:25

A lot of such as a Korea is.

25:27

Yeah. Usa. yeah it's is

25:29

very it's very you crazy

25:32

rotated Singapore where like. This

25:35

dog because I guess because it's

25:37

in those situations there are South

25:39

Asian people who are. All.

25:42

But forced to call people boss

25:44

who? Ah yes, Yes,

25:47

So so maybe that. I

25:50

am. I think if I've ever had the

25:52

asking one not to Thompson seventies, Uma Das

25:54

and when not to call you anything. i

25:58

wish i had a good answer No,

26:00

I don't either other than like ma'am. That's like the

26:02

typical one for women. Yeah, I want to be a

26:05

ma'am Yeah,

26:08

I kind of accept. I kind of

26:10

embrace all nicknames even when I'm

26:12

being made fun of I just

26:14

feel like any sort of nickname is funny

26:17

unless it's offensive, but No

26:19

one calls me Don't

26:21

call me that I Don't

26:24

think so. Uh-huh. I Don't

26:27

like lady. I don't like hey lady Yeah,

26:30

it's just like oh, this is so corny

26:32

and it feels just it It

26:34

feels white in a way that like

26:37

I'm being made white when they call

26:39

me that yeah You're complicit you're complicit in their

26:41

whiteness now. Yeah, it's a very it would happen

26:43

a lot Like it's a lot of like like

26:45

a fellow actress you haven't seen in a while

26:48

and run into her somewhere like hey lady What

26:50

you've been up to and I'm like look I

26:52

know maybe you don't remember my name and that's

26:54

fine I'd rather a girl. I'd

26:56

rather a white woman go. Hey girl, then say

26:59

lady Leah calls

27:01

me out on calling old men sir, but I'm like

27:03

I think they like it They

27:06

probably do yeah We got

27:08

an older guy in our construction company. I'm always

27:10

like thank you sir, and he kind of always

27:12

gives me a big head Okay, yeah, he's like

27:14

that's what I'm talking about Leah's like You

27:17

don't call your friends sir, and I'm like yeah, they're my

27:19

friends. Yeah Yeah,

27:25

I don't know I see an Older

27:28

black guy. I'm definitely calling him sir. Yeah,

27:31

yeah Yeah,

27:33

I think that I guess it there is

27:35

a little if you're close to this co-worker

27:38

Then you can just have the like come on

27:40

dog. You can't call me boss man So

27:43

fucking 21st century There's

27:47

a lot close to him that's

27:50

yeah, yeah black friends. No,

27:52

I'm just kidding. Yeah Mm-hmm. No

27:55

you're not kidding. I'm not kidding about Todd II what Todd

27:57

II said I believe it Maybe

28:00

he's just not a good guy. Yeah. Yeah.

28:04

But I think, I think

28:06

he's just gotta let it, yeah, either

28:08

let it go laugh,

28:11

if you can find a way to get a laugh out of

28:13

him, like, come on, you can't call me that. Also

28:16

don't you think boss is way

28:18

more innocuous than boss man? Yes.

28:22

So maybe just, it sounds like he says

28:24

both according to the caller. So maybe just

28:27

go like boss is cool, boss

28:29

man makes me feel weird. And that's all you have

28:31

to say. Boss man's the line. Yeah.

28:35

Boss man feels bad. And

28:37

then have the conversation. Yes.

28:40

Is this culture or race? Oh

28:42

boy. All right, since

28:44

we blasted through that one quick, I'm

28:46

going to do one more regular advice

28:49

question. Great. Oh my gosh. An advice

28:51

sandwich. An advice request. An advice request.

28:53

Since y'all travel a lot, what's the

28:55

best way to pack? Carry

28:58

on only or suck it up and

29:00

check a bag. Oh baby. Specifically, I'd

29:02

like to hear from Kevin if it's

29:04

different when trains are involved. If you

29:06

check a bag, how do you divide

29:09

up your stuff? That's

29:11

a great question. You want to go first? You

29:13

go first. Look, I'm a carry

29:15

on only ho. I really,

29:17

unless I've taken, needed like medical

29:19

liquids, I have not checked a

29:21

bag since Obama was president. I

29:24

hate checking bags. I am confident they're

29:26

going to lose my stuff. I hate

29:28

fucking waiting for it. I want to

29:30

walk off that airplane and be in

29:32

a vehicle within like 25 seconds. And

29:36

it is a point of pride to me.

29:38

And I don't care if I'm going somewhere for three weeks

29:41

or three days, I am holding all of

29:43

my items. I'm putting them in my little cubby.

29:45

I'm sitting on my little rocket ship. And when

29:47

I get off my rocket ship, my things come

29:49

in my hands and people call me crazy, but

29:51

I don't care. And I will go to extreme

29:53

lengths to do this carry on only till the

29:55

day I die. I

29:58

want to be a carry on person. I

30:00

think I was from like 18 to 26

30:02

and then holidays. Maybe

30:07

even before train stuff,

30:11

it became tricky with holiday

30:13

travel of, and I was trying

30:15

to, God, it's

30:17

so hard critiquing gifts that you get from

30:19

family where it's like, I don't need this

30:21

huge blanket. Like how am I supposed to

30:23

bring this back? And so a few

30:26

times that I've flown, I've been forced to

30:28

bring a bag that I have to check, which

30:34

sucks, but what I

30:37

love about the train is I just

30:39

bring my big ass suitcase every time.

30:42

And often because I'm taking the train, I'm

30:45

staying for long enough that

30:48

I want to bring a bag and you

30:50

don't have to check it in the same

30:52

way, in a concerning way, frankly, where it's

30:54

just like you walk on the train and

30:56

the first thing by the door is just

30:58

like, suitcase corner and you just kind of

31:00

stick your suitcase in there. Amazing.

31:02

I immediately got an air tag because I'm like,

31:04

there's no way someone is not grabbing these and

31:07

being like, bye, it's 2 a.m. in Minnesota, fuck

31:09

you guys, and then just takes like three. So

31:13

I like that. And then when

31:15

I'm in my little cubby, I

31:18

stuff a backpack with like

31:20

essentials, basically. And so I

31:22

will put like laptop,

31:24

toiletries, and then like a

31:27

pair of sweatpants and a t-shirt or something in

31:30

there and just kind of like stuff a backpack

31:32

to like 99% full. And

31:36

so I'm kind of a, in a perfect

31:38

world, just carry on in backpack. It's my

31:40

favorite way to travel. When

31:43

I have to check a bag, whether it

31:45

be on the plane or train, that

31:49

has everything, almost

31:51

everything. And then I'm just keeping the

31:53

light, the fun stuff in the backpack. I

31:56

like it. I, this is partially,

31:58

I. I feel more

32:01

I travel and Silica travel less than

32:03

than you guys and often actually I'd

32:05

bailey I just as they travel the

32:07

see my nephew so I go to

32:09

a place with like you know my

32:11

sister's place so there's like. An.

32:13

Hour to wash receive their like are usually

32:15

anecdotal audrey why they're so even on a

32:18

lot of i just i say I haven't

32:20

been on a trip and. I

32:22

can't think of how long. That.

32:25

Might. Would necessitate a

32:28

checked bag? Yeah, Well.

32:30

You're just like trance like

32:33

he lights at South To

32:35

a Lot now. I.

32:37

Was just a couple. It backlit sets the

32:40

eye on one one of the sneaky tests

32:42

that idea which is like i have a

32:44

cross body bag with a little small is

32:47

sandy bags were cross bodies and when I

32:49

do as I were a bomber jacket or

32:51

ipad sweat and just stick sat underneath possess

32:53

technical like a third bag and alive and

32:56

will be like says consolidate it's i just

32:58

they are either hide it under my clothes

33:00

or whatever which is a cheats bizarre way.

33:02

I have like. All my immediate

33:05

like purse type shit including it's

33:07

it's a Kindle. Set. My headphones,

33:09

all that shit is right there on my body and

33:11

then I got bigger back on. right there with you.

33:13

My. My guy and I saw

33:15

the Switchblade yeah, I'm still popcorn

33:17

maker. All the things. That

33:22

I have a backpack and then if I need

33:24

a really. Bad. like I'm going on a

33:26

big trip next week and I'm don't have

33:28

to have a backpack and or Rowley bags

33:30

so yeah those are both carry on approved

33:32

in the night aside my of a little

33:34

bag. don't tell the fled since I'm but

33:36

I suggest whatever gender you are. There's a

33:38

website. Called travel fast and

33:40

girls needs. Some. Of the fashion

33:42

advice is not my taste. Some of it's

33:45

a little dated but what they do is

33:47

explain the capsule wardrobe. For every

33:49

season they also give your destination based

33:51

capsule wardrobe. Season has been like I'm

33:53

going to Italy, what should I wear

33:55

us and will give you examples of

33:57

like. Here's how to maximize. Two. Pairs

33:59

of. three shirts and a dress

34:01

with this type of shoe and you'll have a

34:03

week's worth of clothes. They

34:06

also have a whole PDF on how to

34:09

go completely carry on only and it teaches

34:11

you about like downsizing your toiletries and combining

34:14

shit in a way that has changed

34:16

my life. So yeah, go check

34:18

that out. Two other travel

34:21

things that are fun that I forgot

34:23

to mention. One fun, one bizarre story.

34:26

The thing that I always get to bring

34:28

on the train that I enjoy more than

34:30

I should is my snack bag. Every

34:33

time I go to like

34:35

Potbelly, get like load up

34:37

on sandwiches and like barbecue

34:39

chips, maybe some like

34:41

small booze from home or something

34:44

and basically have like a jewel

34:46

OSCO paper bag and like flood

34:49

it with snacks and stuff that I can

34:51

just have throughout the train ride. Forgot

34:54

to say that. The other thing, I don't remember if I said

34:56

this on air or just told you guys or maybe I didn't.

34:59

So the first time I flew in five years,

35:03

I'm in the Uber with Leah. We're pulling up.

35:05

I go, wait a second, my contact just

35:07

fell out of my eye and the Uber driver is

35:09

like, you have to leave. And

35:14

I tried, I haven't taken a checked

35:16

bag in so long. I tried to

35:18

bring it through airport security with one

35:20

contact in my eye and the lady

35:22

went, what are you doing? You can't

35:24

bring that huge bag in here. I

35:26

was like, I'm sorry and ran away.

35:28

Oh my God. I was a mess.

35:30

So it's all good, but it was

35:32

very sloppy first LA

35:35

experience, LAX experience in a

35:37

minute. So it was bizarre. That

35:40

sounds so stressful. That

35:42

was wild. Was not usually done.

35:45

I'm just, I guess I'd naturally

35:47

travel light. So even

35:49

my fucking 12 hours at

35:52

San Francisco Airport, I

35:55

did, yeah, I Just, I don't

35:57

know. I did actually that night. I did end up... Think

36:00

washing a pair of socks and

36:03

underwear which I hadn't time that

36:05

but sorry with her advisers right

36:07

before I flew in a hurry.

36:10

Strauss It is a zoc. A

36:12

classic laundry detergent, seats. That.

36:14

On Palmer Now I am

36:16

getting a path or raise

36:18

and. Or. I'd ah I

36:21

love this question. Yeah, me too.

36:23

Fun question. Also. I love the text

36:25

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36:27

more tax. Oh yes, more tax means

36:29

less bullshit additives suffering coveted as south

36:32

of Paris is more tax or it.

36:34

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he's like.