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how early as he really gonna go
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Thursday, May ninth on that arm and
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welcome to the Oven Fantasy Football show.
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It is a hell of a day.
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Talk ball and join me to do
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just that. is Andy Barons any what's
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gone on Buddy Ah, things are things
1:59
are good. I'm about to go
2:01
on vacation. I'm annoyed that visit that moment
2:03
for me where it's like this is the
2:05
last to related thing that I have to
2:07
do. A full have to do is my
2:09
pleasure to do before I go on vacation.
2:11
So I'm feelin, I'm feeling loose, I'm feeling
2:13
good. We got a mock draft to talk
2:15
about. What's more exciting than that. Good.
2:18
Times. Not many
2:20
more things exciting than a mock draft. This
2:22
is not a last thing I have to
2:24
do before or should I say get to
2:26
do before going on vacation myself. I saw
2:28
the few more. Boxes. To check
2:30
but I also be on vacation next week
2:32
and on it's actually my wife and Iraqi
2:35
finally taking our honeymoon Andy because life has
2:37
don't like this and curveballs that it's the
2:39
last year's we never actually got to take
2:41
it so I'm very exciting times I have
2:44
not taken like a real deal. Through
2:47
vacation. In.
2:49
I don't know like five years and
2:52
I mean I'm talking like I'm going
2:54
to be like your former boy just
2:56
in fields you know, like deleting apps
2:58
off my phone. I'm following people are
3:00
like I'm looking forward to being very
3:02
very very unreachable. The yes we do
3:05
have some or business to attend to
3:07
here and I you know like there
3:09
are obviously I'm ancient, I'm very old
3:11
and the i'm. That. That
3:13
the thing that separates me from you as
3:15
I was in the workforce for like. A
3:18
year, maybe two years when there was no
3:20
expectation when you went on vacation that you
3:22
could be reachable by any means. Riot like
3:25
there was no. like nobody. like I know
3:27
I'm going on vacation, but I will have
3:29
the laptop and you know I've got a
3:31
phone on me all the time. And like
3:33
if they need to reach out to me,
3:35
they can reach out to me. The mance.
3:38
Those were like the couple of occasions that
3:40
my wife and I were actually able to
3:42
take where we were just totally disconnected and
3:44
there was, even if my employer had wanted
3:46
to contact me that lock. There's. No, there's
3:48
no way they would have been able to. I
3:50
didn't leave the name of my hotel with a
3:52
message you had to do back then. And as
3:54
for can awesome. Could.
3:56
You imagine? Ah, like. Jay.
4:00
Collin or any these people that are.
4:02
We. Are way too reachable for and
4:05
just call and like your hotel room.
4:07
and nineteen seventy, whatever. And the last
4:09
eyes mister is mister Barons there we
4:11
need a breaking news reaction to the
4:13
say Jones visiting the Cowboys or Us
4:15
Tyler Boyd signing with the Tennessee Titans
4:17
in the middle of May. Could you?
4:19
Could you imagine Andy? Thankfully we don't
4:21
live in that world. The I I'm
4:23
I'm fantasizing that I'm going to be
4:25
completely unreachable next week, when when when
4:28
I'm out on on this honeymoon. But.
4:30
Probably. Not gonna happen. Polio be somewhat reachable.
4:33
Pry will bring you. I mean, I'll bring
4:35
a laptop some like I'm watching movies on
4:37
the on the plane and then on. Unfortunately,
4:39
I'm sure I'll be fixing a website issue
4:41
or something like that. In. The middle
4:43
of my honeymoon in my of my pledge to
4:45
you is that I will not see see you on
4:47
any so I will not. Oh and and and hey
4:49
let's was like. Hey take on
4:52
that right now cause right back at your
4:54
power you will not hear from me next
4:56
week. That as a promise but. When.
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We also promised is a banger of
5:00
a podcast. It exits and he mentioned
5:03
we're going to be recapping our first
5:05
Yahoo Fantasy staff mock draft of the
5:07
Twenty Twenty Four. Nfl season.
5:09
Man, I mean the draft is over. The
5:11
teams are said. I mean we. We do
5:14
have some little minor clean up signings transactions
5:16
here and there, but the the board is
5:18
largely set and it's time to start drafting.
5:20
Or people are drafting. right now. the sick
5:22
o's' are drafting or baseball teams right now.
5:24
Rookie draft are happening. but. Really?
5:26
It's prep for redress. the than
5:28
from now until August. The real
5:31
hard core fantasy, you know? Guys.
5:33
And gals are are prep and right now and that's
5:36
what that that's of. The people listen to this podcast
5:38
and we love you and we thank you so. Andy
5:41
Let's recap this mock draft. That.
5:43
We did listen set that the ground
5:45
rules for it. It was a
5:47
ten team league. One. Start
5:49
one quarterback so I hear ya. All
5:51
you guys are are I our economy?
5:53
I'm a basic row for doing this
5:55
or whatever. And and listen to it
5:57
is what it is. Ten Team one
5:59
quarterback. I get it there. The super
6:01
flex hard o's' are screaming at us
6:03
are the fourteen teamers are admonishing us.
6:05
There's a lot a weeping and gnashing
6:07
of teeth, but that's what we did.
6:10
These. Were the participants? Ah,
6:12
It was any barons myself.
6:15
Ah, Aaron from our social
6:17
team Dalton.on Dan Harris. Fantasy.
6:20
Football I producer Kate Masood one of
6:22
our contributors here Mocha C O, who's
6:24
I? the enforcer of the Fantasy editorial
6:26
team I call and producer calm and
6:28
was also in on this a big
6:31
protests in in this was produce a
6:33
college or Jorge Martine who does some
6:35
writing for us and Scotty now ski
6:37
as well. So ten sorry folks here
6:39
for a participating in this exercise. Andy.
6:42
It's. A it you know it's it's
6:44
funny. You mention the hardcore guys you're
6:46
like why isn't the Super Flex? Why
6:48
isn't this sixteen teams and I'd like.
6:51
I appreciate that those are the people
6:53
who are online and on social platforms
6:55
right now and and wanna talk fantasy
6:57
football while like every other sport as
6:59
is going on like we appreciate you
7:01
for sure. And
7:04
that's probably like and I know this
7:06
is when their voices probably amplified most
7:08
because as we get into like August.
7:11
Unfortunately, Like the dominant format
7:13
in fantasy football still happens to be like
7:15
it everybody sort of default game or it's
7:17
ten or twelve teams and it's one quarterback
7:19
and there's just one flax and everybody's team
7:22
is african All star roster right and like
7:24
so I am sorry about that but I
7:26
I think we still I think we the
7:28
for the most part we have there's they
7:30
may not be in exactly the right order
7:33
but I think in the A rounds that
7:35
we did in this mock we we have
7:37
basically the right collection of names. right?
7:40
Dubner thing we didn't we do a rounds Yorkers
7:42
and with you really need assists. The Us
7:44
take you know, a kicker and sitting around
7:46
I don't necessarily think so. I were hitting
7:48
on the most important picks here in Indiana.
7:50
Look, I. I love
7:53
you Sick of okay say all time. I'll
7:55
show you guys, Keep the lights on! Okay,
7:57
you don't keep me employed for twelve months
7:59
out of your own. We talking about this
8:02
game and I'm not talking about baseball and
8:04
hockey like humans. God new freak shows over
8:06
there I am. I'm talking about football Three
8:09
Sixty Five and I thank you sicko surfer
8:11
swimming continental your lungs. But I also love
8:13
the people who are just in the traditional.
8:16
And. Twelve team redraft leagues and and by
8:18
the way a lot of those the were
8:20
private ones reading a the stuff on the
8:22
website which why we did it this way
8:24
so less waste our time and a you
8:26
were responsible for writing up. The.
8:28
Mock Draft The recaps or lot of
8:30
this is gonna be sorted driven by
8:32
you and your reactions here. Let's start
8:34
with the first round here. nothing too
8:37
crazy. At the top of the draft
8:39
were aaron. Took Christian Mccaffrey,
8:41
but you're intrigued. Started right away
8:43
at the second overall pick. where
8:45
don't dell dawn? Took New York
8:47
Jets running back Breeze Hall. Andy
8:49
your thoughts. Yeah. My
8:51
first thought was that this is
8:54
just a classic Dalton Delle Donne
8:56
look at me sort of. So
8:58
effects Gray Zone make in the
9:01
whole thing about himself like he
9:03
does That note noted showboat or.dot
9:05
on Yeah, yeah. Let.
9:08
The So like brief I'll obviously that is
9:11
a first round pick. I do think like
9:13
who goes number two is an interesting conversation
9:15
and fantasy. This you're right because you can.
9:17
You can certainly make the argument for Cd
9:19
Lamb. You can make the argument for Tyree
9:22
Kill I'm Eat Like I don't think it's
9:24
perfectly clear that Bree saw his thus second
9:26
running back after Christian Mccaffrey. I do think
9:28
it's clear that he belongs in the first
9:31
round and there's a group there with Taylor
9:33
and Be John and I'm certainly hall where
9:35
like eat you can have the you can
9:37
have the conversation. I think I think
9:40
call his arm and interesting player to
9:42
talk about because his. And.
9:44
And you know this obviously because you are riding Breeze
9:46
all enough to him for leagues where he led you
9:48
to titles right Lake County to me Yes great place
9:51
out to you that was mostly will buy you like
9:53
how much of it was man harman how much of
9:55
it was Breeze all de wever know is that I'm
9:57
from I I I can't your partner's it had it's
9:59
I. Take my credit, I've never
10:01
ever feel like you know how
10:03
weird his season got at the
10:05
end and I think there's a
10:07
conversation about whether that kim how
10:09
that will translates you. Aaron
10:11
Rodgers being at quarterback and that twenty
10:14
twenty four Jets, right? Because he finishes
10:16
his year with like a thirty nine
10:18
touch game at thirty seven carries in
10:20
his final game and huge yardage total
10:22
on and off they're trying to get
10:25
him to a thousand yards. I'm not
10:27
sure what the story there was. He
10:29
seemed to short whatever great season he
10:31
also had like those Trevor Simeon Weeks
10:33
arm. He's just peppered with targets. Sixteen
10:36
targets, Nine targets. on the team. Boil
10:38
weeks weren't weren't two different, right? And
10:40
so now we're coming. Into a C N
10:42
and like that that was awesome and then breeze
10:44
all finishes as a you know I think get
10:46
all the hard course. know this already. Led
10:49
led the position and targets for the
10:52
position receptions and receiving yardage. You.
10:54
Know is is he can be the centerpiece
10:56
of and Aaron Rodgers lead to passing attack.
10:58
I think that's it. I think that's more
11:01
interesting conversation because they obviously they at Williams
11:03
they you know they they draft a rookie
11:05
that they're excited about Correlate if you know
11:07
they've they've got Year Wilson who deserves one
11:09
hundred and sixty target. So. I
11:12
think Bruce all can get there in a better
11:14
ah sense, right? I think he can earn this
11:16
draft spot. I just I just think he's gonna
11:18
deliver numbers. probably in a different way. But
11:21
he's A. He's an interesting conversation starter. And. Yeah.
11:25
My initial reaction was going to be i'm
11:27
willing to sacrifice a few Catches are targets
11:29
and are you know if more touchdowns be
11:32
Did score nine touchdowns last year and in
11:34
a in a really broken off and switch
11:36
I did you can say like okay well
11:38
how in an Aaron Rodgers off and how
11:41
many touchdowns gonna score you know keep was
11:43
closer to eleven twelve. I think
11:45
that's possible to use of really dynamic
11:47
player, which is an important crux of
11:49
this conversation. like I think we love
11:52
the player. Resolved Now. Maybe.
11:54
This is. Because
11:57
you brought up the passing work in an overall a
11:59
guy thing, He's. The be better as a runner
12:01
I do, you can be more effective as a
12:03
runner in in the seat. The second season removed
12:05
from the A C L S's I am generally
12:07
that's how he's running backs work, but because you
12:09
brother Stephen work here. I
12:12
do think it would be a mistake
12:14
to remove too much receiving work from
12:16
Breeze, all like I think. Even
12:18
though they add Mike Williams he still
12:20
the second best I would say or
12:22
to set missing was dangerous pass catcher
12:25
on the team beyond beyond guerre wilson
12:27
because we don't really know we're going
12:29
to get for Mike Williams and maybe
12:31
I'm galaxy braiding myself on this Andy
12:33
but it's may this is when we
12:35
should galaxy bring ourselves. Ah,
12:39
you know that you mention Malika Corley who
12:41
they do seem to be in love with.
12:43
The Jets social media team is literally tweeting
12:45
slow motion hi layer as I was out
12:47
of it. Ralph's on air and he's were
12:49
african. Screen route I was like are from
12:51
or I sniffed at we've jumped the shark.
12:53
Normally I'm okay with normal. I'm okay, we're
12:55
just having fun with you know, may or
12:57
whatever Ralph's on air. Highlights of I yeah
12:59
sometimes I roll my eyes on Twitter Something
13:01
that bothers? Yeah, we're we're we're jump the
13:03
shark it at that is a screen route.
13:05
My guy we it's and he's he's run
13:07
into steps like weekend we. Don't need to
13:10
slow modus one. Okay, I'm. So.
13:12
That that but the that's the type of
13:14
player mouth I call is going to be
13:17
there be a design targets type of guy.
13:19
I wonder if he's actually again me them
13:21
Galaxy brainless of anti but does Malik accurately
13:23
and of siphoning some of this receding work
13:26
away. From. Ah from Bree
13:28
saw because use for the most part with a
13:30
guy like Hall, you're having to designed these targets
13:32
for him to get to ninety five. Like not
13:34
all of those are going to be checked downs.
13:36
some of them will be, but not all of
13:38
them. Are those design Turks go away
13:40
from Breeze Hall and beyond? Malik has clearly
13:42
plate is because I. Think that's
13:44
a mistake. Yeah. No,
13:47
that's another part of their brief conversation is
13:49
that these weren't like unproductive targets. I mean
13:51
that the guys like the guy was averaging
13:53
almost eight yards per catch, rainy caught everything.
13:56
So on these these aren't like wasted target,
13:58
they're not. I'm not suggesting that at all.
14:00
I just don't think you know he just
14:02
had Lake is year with so oddly shaped
14:05
right? Any guess he gets almost a third
14:07
of his total yardage in the final three
14:09
games of the season which find they're gonna
14:11
come somewhere you have big week somewhere on.
14:13
and he he just you know that that
14:16
chunk of time with two quarterbacks who are
14:18
does not even gonna be part of the
14:20
equation. The sheer he gets he gets like
14:22
forty three of his catches in a six
14:25
week period. I don't know if it's gonna
14:27
look exactly like that. we haven't really seen.
14:30
Are you can argue that Aaron Rodgers hasn't
14:32
had a guy exactly like this before? Although
14:34
I think There and Zones is A is
14:36
a pretty dynamic receiving threat, we just haven't
14:39
seen him. You know, Aaron Rodgers has given
14:41
us a a vintage Alvin Kamara years and
14:43
given us a the and out of the
14:45
just a mock like an Austin Acl or
14:47
type monster receiving season out of a running
14:49
back. It could happen for breeze off I'm
14:52
I'm not like I don't, I don't actually
14:54
hit tech. I just more than anything I
14:56
just love like clowning Dalton.on and any opportunity.
14:58
give me to. Poke
15:01
and prod at ads choices the.makes and fancy
15:03
I'm gonna, I'm gonna take advantage of it.
15:05
I just think resolves one of those super
15:07
interesting, super interesting on a swing players interest.
15:11
The overall I'm I'm pretty cool don't make
15:13
him to pick here, ah, I would probably
15:15
personally go some of these receivers Adam him.
15:18
No. Arguments for me in terms of resource like
15:20
know rocket the rest the first round. Carry
15:22
Kill Pick Number three by Dan Harris.
15:25
Be. John Robinson goes to Kate. I
15:27
picked for. Most. Take
15:30
Cd Lamb. You. Take just
15:32
and Jefferson. Are. Easy hear your
15:34
thoughts on Jefferson with a rookie quarterback and
15:36
then right after that are you wanted to
15:38
highlight producer Collin. The. Seventh
15:40
pick overall takes to kinda
15:43
cool. So ah and he.
15:46
Just. Jumps and Pukanic who are these two picks
15:48
year. Yeah. Jefferson. First of
15:50
all, like he man, that guy played with
15:52
a after after the Kirk Cousins injury it
15:54
was. It was such a Rogues Gallery at
15:57
quarterback for the for the Vikings, he still
15:59
finishes with a thing then yards in ten
16:01
games. I'm which I think just underscores is
16:03
absolutely ridiculous talent when healthy I just there's
16:06
there's so few doubts for me with Justin
16:08
Jefferson. I actually really like i'm you know,
16:10
and that and I'm more. you sort of
16:13
die then on Jj Mccarthy. At least for
16:15
me, I'm I'm I'm pretty convinced that he
16:17
can support a couple of viable fantasy starters.
16:19
I don't know that Mccarthy himself will be
16:22
that guy, but I I I don't really
16:24
have many worries about how just In Jefferson
16:26
is going to perform. I think is as
16:29
good as it gets. Of the position.
16:31
Still like still suit, crazy young, still
16:33
in ascending flare. So no questions about
16:35
Jefferson. I thought, you know, I thought
16:38
Fuca. I mean obviously. Hookers coming off
16:40
one hundred catch, fourteen hundred yards season
16:42
as as good as any rookie has
16:45
ever been. Like
16:47
him. Ahead of Jamal, Chase to me
16:50
was kind of a wow moment. Him ahead
16:52
of Almond raw, same brown. kind of a
16:54
wow moment. You
16:56
know this will discuss some other
16:58
call and text producer com sat
17:00
as a him for making this
17:02
mock draft interesting. You
17:04
know itself a little out of the i'm I'm
17:07
not. I'm not sure whether I want to let
17:09
calling off the hook you know cause I think
17:11
he's the podcast producer like he could just be
17:13
doing this for team content which I would appreciate
17:16
him for. but I'm not a higher percent. Sure,
17:18
I want to let him off the hook. Some
17:20
disincentives com can't speak for himself. I'm just going
17:22
to say that and and I'm I'm not sure
17:24
whether or he does this for team content or
17:26
not. I'm just gonna leave that as at leave
17:29
that it they got there. I I will say
17:31
I'm I. I cannot. you know having a twitter
17:33
back and forth with Kate? And.
17:35
Ten am maybe I sideswiped call in just
17:37
a little bit in the conversation and he
17:39
jumped in and man calling already had like
17:42
he had like he'd gone into notes and
17:44
he'd he'd written up all of his all
17:46
of this picks in this draft and then
17:48
he hit me What like Izumi with a
17:50
twitter thread it was it The I these
17:52
are my these my talking points on all
17:54
of these texts. Here's why it was great
17:56
mining Cetus I'll have to a new calling
17:58
on twitter. Metro area
18:01
was just temporarily. Don't get out Cia obviously
18:03
Obviously he'll be instant block right after that
18:05
by our for now yeah I'll check out
18:07
on me to check that out. So he
18:09
was. He was fully prepared to defend all
18:11
these tax and again and again like cooker
18:13
is coming off it historic rookie season like
18:16
animal think it's I don't think it's crazy
18:18
out of sequence I guess I you know
18:20
it in my mind the that sort. You
18:22
know you're in the first round and everybody's
18:24
got a very high floor. I'm and so
18:26
we're We're not even really think about that
18:28
except needed a running backs. But it all
18:31
the receivers have very high floors. I'm I
18:33
guess I don't think of poo cause like
18:35
ninety ninth percentile outcome as being the same
18:37
as gym chases or Justin Jefferson's but you
18:39
could talk me into at he's coming off
18:42
a prayer. I
18:44
don't personally have a problem. who can the
18:46
first round? I mean, Atp
18:48
wise in early decimal Draftees: wide receiver
18:50
six He's the ninth overall player of
18:53
the board. ah. Yeah.
18:55
I'm not. I'm not too. I'm
18:57
not too concerned with him going in the
18:59
first round and like I think you get
19:02
dicey after him, right? Like I think. Aj.
19:04
Brown is is ninety ninth percentile com really
19:06
higher than Pukanic who at this point. I.
19:09
Use better a better player? probably.
19:11
But that's. Only because I've seen more
19:13
of a D Brown and I've seen of
19:16
Poo Gonna Go I think I could. at
19:18
the end of the season of Cuckoo continues
19:20
on a trajectory that he was on. I
19:22
think I could say that I I'm I'm
19:24
I'm there. In terms of those guys been
19:26
neck and neck. ah Veo And and I
19:28
have some of it's ecosystem questions about Philadelphia
19:30
Huge, a mere Gibbs sake on Barkley, Jonathan
19:32
Taylor I'm just thinking of Atp. Why not
19:34
guys? You as you mentioned Jason and same
19:36
brown will talk much easier in a second.
19:38
But. Like. These guys do. They
19:40
really have a higher ceiling than than Coogan. a
19:42
coup or maybe for Demir Gibbs. I think the
19:44
he does have some face melting upside, but there
19:46
are some clear downside there as well. Yeah.
19:49
I've gotten again I've got no quarrel with with
19:51
Fuca as am you know I I think in
19:53
a lot of the best ball drops that we
19:55
see we're talking you know, La Libert safer and
19:58
full ppr. He
20:00
you know if if you march a city
20:02
ceiling is a ceiling. Eighteen touchdowns,
20:05
Twenty touchdowns. think maybe right arm. I
20:07
just think that the best possible case
20:09
scenario for for Chase. To me, a little
20:11
little bit higher than Puco. and again, there's
20:13
some other receivers their what. We've already
20:15
seen them deliver multiple seasons that are as
20:17
good as what Puco just gave us. But
20:20
he's like he's in this club. He
20:22
this. Is this the right conversation for? Am
20:24
I don't? I don't mean to suggest
20:26
that Dumb said. it's like some yeah com
20:28
and made some much wilder picks in Cook
20:31
and a Killer so I don't. We
20:33
don't need to get bogged. Down in this one.
20:35
Odds March Eighth was where Does Your Thirteen
20:37
Last year he was were Super Five in
20:40
his rookie season and twenty twenty one Odyssey
20:42
Dell injuries in his second season. He is
20:44
a very fast inquiry. Was my pick right
20:46
after com to begin ago I took to
20:49
March eighth in the first round. Here he
20:51
is it just gives like he's. I.
20:53
Mean, he's was wide receiver five as a
20:55
rookie and I think that was still kind
20:58
of like his peak season. But man like
21:00
I just think about. And I've
21:02
said the salon I'm going to say in a lot
21:04
and lead up to the season so I am sorry.
21:06
or if you hear me repeat this or yard he
21:08
heard me repeat this. I feel like. You're.
21:11
March eighth is gonna have a season
21:13
like a career high in slot snaps
21:15
this year. Just you look at the
21:17
construction of that Bengals off and they
21:19
still have T. Higgins. They take your
21:21
main burton in the third round who
21:23
I guess could be a speed slot
21:25
receiver, but. When. You look at his
21:27
profile and reception perception. You look at what
21:29
he did it at Alabama last year. Excuse
21:31
a pure outside vertical receive and I i
21:33
think that site as a man coverage beater
21:35
that's what is going to be in the
21:37
Nfl. So in three receivers said. We.
21:39
Could see gym are chase you in a lot of like.
21:42
Need. Not going to be of. A seventy percent
21:44
slot player but he could do some Cd
21:46
lamb stop and like that's just gonna raise
21:49
his floor and his ceiling. So if I
21:51
had a bet on a guy that hasn't
21:53
been the number one receiver yet in fantasy
21:55
that could have could be that this year
21:58
if job road to stays healthy. Could
22:00
you again he was productive last season Was
22:02
your March eighth We go without Joe Burrow
22:04
if burrow stays healthy. If Burton is able
22:06
to establish himself is not a feature player
22:08
but the guy to can get on the
22:10
field in year one man I mean age
22:13
march eighth could easily a have just a
22:15
comma targets and again they could be. Higher.
22:18
Yield and Higher efficiency. Target is based
22:20
on where you know lineup. Yeah, that
22:22
really feels right when you say it
22:24
like a again not that he's gonna
22:26
turn into you know, ah, Curtis Samuel
22:28
or whatever. But But to eat like
22:30
the idea of Demar chase at somebody
22:32
who's like sixty percent outside, forty percent
22:34
in the slot some like like that
22:36
that be be really fun and it's
22:39
again it's It's hard for me to.
22:41
Start. Hard for me to imagine that to
22:44
marxist isn't gonna finish his career with like
22:46
at least one you know. Eighteen
22:48
Hundred and fifty yard season. Sixty now. Ridiculous.
22:50
Like sixteen eighteen. Such down total. He's just.
22:52
he's just that. He's just the that electric.
22:55
You think back to the best moments from
22:57
his rookie year like that that just all
22:59
seemed on the table for a minute. Still
23:01
seems on the table for now. First.
23:04
Round finishes up with Jorge taking on
23:06
Rossi Brown on who as I think
23:08
you price. If it was me I'd
23:10
probably take. I'm. On Rossi Brown
23:12
over Puco. but it's it's at least a
23:14
conversation or Jonathan Taylor was the last pic
23:17
by Scott Misek in the first round. To
23:19
them he moves around to. Scott. Takes
23:21
Garrett Wilson Demir Gibbs goes the
23:23
Jorge I took sake on bark
23:25
here. Then the real shocker of
23:27
round to belongs to produce or
23:29
Collin who takes Marvin Harrison Junior
23:31
with the fourth pic of the
23:33
second round. Andy your reaction to
23:35
Marvin Harrison Junior as a second
23:37
round pick. A never taken
23:39
a seventy F L A Nd I
23:41
haven't heard any second. Pickier. Okay,
23:43
some I won my one issue here and I
23:46
actually it. In a recap, I read that I
23:48
thought this was actually probably the sanest and shockey
23:50
as thing that Collin did. Everything else is crazier
23:52
than this. Place for
23:54
you can now when are we going to get to
23:56
the craziness? Be the way was. Continue cowards to it's
23:58
coming. Year I like. I
24:00
think if I think if there's anything here that
24:02
we can argue with, it's the fact that Eg
24:04
Brown was still on the board. like yeah, you
24:07
know there's some. There's some the in my mind
24:09
like totally plausible first round picks who are still
24:11
on the board here. Karen Williams is still there
24:13
and I get that he gets dinged by by
24:15
karma little bit. but man, that was Lds. Eighty
24:18
brown on the board coming off. Back.
24:20
To back fourteen hundred yard seasons, a
24:22
hundred catches last year. I'm like weekend
24:24
we can have our issues with the
24:27
the weight Eagles finished up last season
24:29
but man I'm a brown is like
24:31
us is not old yet he not
24:33
broken down and he's he's done it
24:35
again and again. Right leg and if.
24:38
If. Marvin Harrison finishes were year.
24:40
That's that approaches. What? Is now
24:42
the standard issue Aj Brown season. I
24:45
think you'd consider it a big win
24:47
right? But that said, I I do
24:49
things as the right round for Marvin
24:51
Harrison. am I think I'm proud. Be
24:53
some disagreement on that on that front
24:55
within maybe. Ah who? Fantasy crew. I
24:57
don't think that our think the piano
24:59
ski has a very I at all
25:01
but like you know he is he
25:03
is walking in to I'm assuming good
25:05
health. He's walking into like one hundred
25:07
and forty hundred and fifty targets which
25:09
is probably what it takes to get
25:11
into this round. I'm yeah, now he's
25:13
He's just as as. Polished and as complete
25:15
a receiving prospect as you can really ask
25:17
for, it's just a it's just a great
25:19
set up for him, so I don't think
25:21
it's difficult to imagine. And then you look
25:23
at some of the other second round receivers
25:25
here. I mean yeah, I think I think
25:28
I like him more than Nico Collins in
25:30
Twenty Twenty Four. I think I like them a
25:32
little bit more than Drake, London, and Twenty Twenty
25:34
Four I think I like I'm at least as
25:36
much as Chris a lot. and Twenty Twenty Four
25:39
so I don't think it's I don't think
25:41
it's a crazy round Forum Again, I would
25:43
I would take Brown, I think eighty. Brown is
25:45
still a first rounder. He falls to the second round
25:47
here, but other not, I don't have a huge prominent.
25:50
Yeah, I think you're immediately going to
25:52
see Marvin Harrison juniors rookie. You know
25:55
he. Never had never taken a
25:57
snap in the Nfl. That that
25:59
using age. Pretty poorly for people. Act
26:01
like you're only argument against the player.
26:03
ah I'm more so running backwards still
26:06
receivers deathly been that position of late
26:08
to you're going to just the hot.
26:11
Marvin. Harrison Junior second round. but I think really when
26:13
you start to stack em up at the only the only
26:15
one I'm with you as a D Brown that like I
26:17
think. It. Goes eighty brown
26:19
tear then into Marvin Harrison to the
26:22
i think Marvin Harrison isn't the same
26:24
bucket of. Like. A latte or
26:26
Nico Collins or Drake Lion in all of
26:28
these guys. Me: Maybe there's some running backs
26:30
like a Just if you want to build
26:32
your team that way right? We have current
26:34
Williams in this round. Have Derrick Henry miss
26:36
around. Maybe those guys go ahead of Marvin
26:39
Harrison and some of these receivers. or least
26:41
maybe they should but still like I think
26:43
he has the same floor ceiling combination as
26:45
those guys and Odyssey like when you stack
26:47
it up. You. You're right,
26:49
like very conservative projects in is just
26:51
like a one hundred thirty eight targets
26:53
for Marvin Harrison Junior. that's L conservative
26:55
and and that's like time, medium range
26:57
or outcomes which is what you'd safer
26:59
and alavi. and maybe it safer for
27:01
Nico. or maybe you'd save for drink
27:03
London. but there are some other questions
27:05
in those. Authentic certainly and in use
27:08
and it's more crowded than that, right?
27:10
So he I think when you really
27:12
just sit down and cause sack it
27:14
all together from a from an in
27:16
position standpoint, he. That this is
27:18
is t or whether you've you like him of top
27:20
of this tier cool if you if you didn't like
27:22
other god's sovereignty or that's fine but I don't think
27:24
it's actually that agreed to have a pick. Their.
27:27
There is a phenomenon that I think I
27:29
think maybe Collin was wrong vulnerable to. Here
27:31
are where there's like you know people wanna
27:34
like few people want to have shares of.
27:36
Like the next big thing I'm writing. this
27:38
is the we'd see this all the time.
27:40
It's enough for years and so I think
27:42
that like I think it's Harrison finishes his
27:45
rookie year and it's Sensation Off. By.
27:47
Which I mean like. Twelve.
27:49
Hundred fifty yards. Thirteen hundred yards. he
27:52
catches ninety passes. Yeah, now we're getting
27:54
we're getting seven or eight touchdowns. I
27:56
I think if you drafted in here
27:58
fourth pic the second round your like
28:00
hell yeah. that was a when I
28:03
totally called it. Well. It a
28:05
brown is probably gonna crush that right? Like eighty
28:07
browns probably going to be tapped by one hundred
28:09
and fifty two hundred yards. He's price is now
28:11
it's is. It's is a stronger candidate for ten
28:13
touchdowns I think he he's already given us honor
28:15
cast season like ah I don't know but you'd
28:17
still be really excited to get it from the
28:19
new guy and you're a little bit less excited
28:21
to get it from the guy who's done it
28:23
before. It's just good at our there's there's be
28:25
a name for that phenomenon. I don't exactly know
28:27
what it is pressing named after com some day,
28:29
but I do think that as a I do
28:32
think that is a real thing in a trap
28:34
that we fall. Into. Other pick
28:36
you wanted to highlight in this round. Like I
28:38
mentioned so name's already are you in a zebra
28:40
Right after Marvin Harrison? No wonder you're things around
28:42
Such a great take. You made the sick. Soccer
28:45
fan of the expert dislikes own text.
28:49
Ah Mau Takes Time Williams a
28:51
criminal Law They Nico Collins, Drake,
28:54
London, Derrick Henry Ah. I.
28:57
Want to have a drink one in conversation buffers As a
28:59
you wanted to highlight Derrick Henry he was use the final
29:01
pick up around to Aaron. I'm curious is because I know
29:03
how I feel that Eric Henry how do you feel about
29:05
I'm here. Yeah, my initial feeling
29:07
is man Derrick Henry could scored. Twenty
29:10
times as you're like ten or
29:12
even an amazing situation as the
29:14
as the as pretty mind when
29:16
I like yeah I'll get a
29:18
cabbie outside of the way you
29:20
know he's with We've seen Derrick
29:22
Henry his best season already. That's
29:24
that's happened. Yeah, dare countries thirty.
29:26
He has been bad yet though.
29:28
And this is Baltimore. Ah, I'm
29:30
This is the most run, you
29:32
know, the most productive running team
29:34
in the league. As run heavy
29:36
as they get, she's that. He's
29:38
just the unrivaled number. One Yes, he's
29:41
tied to a Russian quarterback, but it's a
29:43
Russian quarterback who isn't trying to take all
29:45
the goal line carry. So I just think
29:47
there's a real path here for Derrick Henry.
29:50
Disc Lake Union Have to be like super
29:52
efficient. He could. He could get into the
29:54
end zone twenty times. that's that's very much
29:56
in play on his. Like. His
29:59
actual eighty p at lake I'm
30:01
on. The. Nfc on the
30:03
high stakes sites. It's It's really wow.
30:05
It's way lower than us, which I
30:07
get it if you're If you're playing
30:10
for Ppr, you're not as excited about
30:12
Derrick Henry as you are in other
30:14
formats. But man, touchdowns play everywhere. and
30:16
I I just think his Id so
30:19
likely to give us an hour lemon
30:21
hundred yards, Thirteen hundred yards, a huge
30:23
touchdown total. like I know, I probably.
30:25
but him. He.
30:28
Privee behind Mccaffrey. I'm I'd say be
30:30
like my second favorite said to lead
30:32
the league and touchdowns right now. I'm
30:36
very much with you that zigzag how I
30:38
feel about Derrick Henry who is. You.
30:40
Mentioned his early best Quality people,
30:42
fantasy prose and census data here.
30:45
Thirty second overall Player. Still,
30:47
oh man, that is too low. I mean
30:49
your boy Sam Reporters ahead of him. There's
30:52
some like members that are, I mean a
30:54
baseball draft tend to be more receiver heavy
30:56
and more receiver Thursday that there's a dicey
30:58
receiver bats and like even just low ceiling
31:00
receiver bets going ahead of Derrick Henry. Other
31:03
running backs into i don't I don't know
31:05
about all that. So yeah, to me, I
31:07
think Derrick Henry pre. Low
31:10
ranked here. A Are you going to
31:12
load some these early draft cause I
31:14
like what's the floor caught stealing combination
31:16
for Derrick. Henry I don't think there's
31:18
a scenario a gonna get the Baltimore He
31:20
just like can't play anymore yeah like just
31:23
look at how efficient Gus Edwards were was
31:25
with those opportunities and I think that Derrick
31:27
Henry even if he's older is gonna be
31:30
better than like post injury Gus Edward. So
31:32
am I like Derrick Henry there I'd you
31:34
just want to touch on Drake London who
31:36
was dance pick the final pick it a
31:39
second round Andy I'm I'm think I'm going
31:41
to ask everybody who's opinion I respect. This.
31:44
Question: heading into the disease and I guess
31:46
I'll ask you as well. I'm not gonna
31:48
love you and keep I'm stuck. but I
31:51
guess I will ask you as well. I'm
31:53
say I'm a big Drake London guy right?
31:55
I love Drake London I think. I.
31:58
Think he can beat it by the end of the. The
32:00
than he could be considered like a
32:02
top ten real life Nfl receive rubbing
32:04
his got that in his range or
32:07
outcomes. Extremely good player. Okay, very very
32:09
just that he checks all the boxes
32:11
I want. From. A wide
32:13
outright like he does. All the things
32:15
I like. Same.
32:17
Time though. He's. Gone off the
32:19
board here. end of the second
32:22
round Dalton years in early baseball
32:24
draft Atp of twenty overall not
32:26
wide receiver Twenty twenty overall, Wide
32:28
receiver twelve on certain sites He
32:30
is up there in as a
32:33
queer top like fifteen pick. Overall
32:35
off the board. This is a
32:37
guy again. I. Think the film
32:39
on drake line has been great. Okay, I
32:41
think he has been a. His.
32:43
Stats have been a product of his circumstance,
32:46
not a product of Drake London, and I
32:48
think the situation is much better here for
32:50
Drake London. Are we gonna get over our
32:52
skis A little bit too much? Andy with
32:55
Drake London Because here's the thing. Brass Tacks
32:57
This guy has been. Why does he were
32:59
thirty nine? A wide receiver? thirty five in
33:01
his first two seasons, even just take it
33:04
like. Giving him the Kirk
33:06
Cousins boost the giving him the office of
33:08
ecosystem boost he could. We could get to
33:10
like wide receiver twenty and I think that
33:12
be a great season for Drake London like
33:14
a brick. One of finishes with eighty one
33:16
catches. Over. A thousand yards and
33:19
seven touchdowns. Are you disappointed by that? Because
33:21
that's a devout his mid season last year
33:23
and he was wide receiver. twenty and so
33:25
I just I. I I do think there
33:27
is a high ceiling for Drake One, I
33:29
just think the variance a little bit wider
33:32
and I say this as a drink. One
33:34
guy like Idol, the people come in here
33:36
complaining. After eighty one catches a thousand yards,
33:38
seven touchdowns. I don't want to hear it.
33:41
The South so I'm just kind of preparing for
33:43
that part of it emi over this. So here's
33:45
here's kind of the way I'm I'm looking at
33:47
it and I will. I will say. I'd.
33:50
I gave.so the picked because I just
33:52
I give.i'm sure that the it's just
33:55
it's my bets but I'm why why
33:57
should do think I like London like.
34:00
A whole lot differently than we think of
34:02
Garrett Wilson. Ah, I'm. Like.
34:04
They're they're both kind of. You know,
34:06
they have both been saddled with just
34:08
absolutely dismal quarterback situations over the last
34:10
two years. And yet their their talent
34:12
is just screaming right? It's it's parents
34:15
We We know that in a better
34:17
situation, better, better passer the controls. They
34:19
could have a big year. We've seen
34:21
the target totals from here. it wasn't
34:23
I guess we haven't quite got there
34:25
yet with with Drake London. But yeah,
34:27
it sure looks like Atlanta is the
34:29
sort of often that could. It could
34:31
just funnel it to Three Guys, which
34:33
is what we dream of in fantasy.
34:35
Right like that definitely happen. and I can. I don't
34:37
know I I feel like I can see that that
34:39
sort of ninety ninth percentile outcome for Drake One and
34:41
looks an awful lot like Garrett Wilson and nobody blinks.
34:43
If you take your At Wilson with the last thing
34:45
in the first rounder, the first or second pic of
34:48
the second round right arm at their. There might be
34:50
a little bit of a difference in terms of target
34:52
total, but I but I'd. You. Know man
34:54
worked for talking about to pretty good
34:56
quarterbacks who are both really coming off
34:58
the same injury. And and man, Kirk
35:00
was as good as anybody for half
35:02
a season last year. So ah, I
35:04
guess I guess that would be the
35:07
way I would. The. Were wood frame
35:09
it I. I also think you're right
35:11
that we're we're closing in on the
35:13
best case scenario with this A D
35:15
P for Drake London like we're we're
35:17
drafting him. Definitely add you know what,
35:19
what is probably pretty close to the
35:21
best possible outcome. But on the other
35:23
hand, again I also see him as
35:26
a as a super similar player does
35:28
to Wilson in in some respects I'm
35:30
against like nine hundred yards last year.
35:32
With. Ritter. And Hynek year
35:35
quarterback was heroic work. Yeah,
35:37
Overall, I I hope I'm just over thinking this,
35:39
but I I hear your point of we're sort
35:42
of drafting him. maybe not at his ceiling, but
35:44
we're we're getting close to bump in up to
35:46
that ceilings less moved around three. I.
35:49
Aaron started off with Travis City and
35:51
Dalton. Very boring just jacobs. Receipt.
35:53
Or sod white. Moink. neighbors same
35:56
laporta you took isaiah pacheco com
35:58
and takes the first quarter Josh
36:00
Allen I took James Cook which I'm kind of
36:02
mixed on that pick I'm curious what you think
36:04
about that and then DK Metcalf
36:06
and DJ Moore finish up the round here So
36:08
Andy, let's there a couple of curious picks in
36:10
this one I know you loved
36:13
your own pick of Isaiah Pacheco, but good for
36:15
you You loved all of your
36:17
own picks seemingly. That's what I'm getting from your notes
36:19
here Malik neighbors, I
36:21
think stands out as the first like eye-popping
36:23
pick here Do you have any issue with
36:25
Malik neighbors who Kate took? With
36:28
the fourth pick of this round compared
36:30
to Marvin Harrison in round two. Yeah,
36:33
I do I think this is I
36:35
think this is a little bit too close in proximity to
36:37
Marvin and you can like You
36:41
know if the argument that you're gonna make for
36:43
Marvin Harrison and this is not the argument that
36:45
we made But if you're making a strictly like
36:47
volume based argument for Marvin Harrison Then
36:49
I guess you should feel the same way
36:51
about Malik neighbors. I think they're both great
36:53
players I don't you know,
36:55
I don't see glaring weaknesses to neighbors
36:57
game And they
37:00
are both stepping into situations where they should
37:02
be heavily targeted receivers It's
37:04
just one of them is a heavily
37:06
targeted receiver with Kyler Murray at quarterback
37:08
And the other one is headed to
37:10
a pretty messy QB situation in New York
37:12
Yeah, and I I feel like there should
37:14
be more than a round of difference between
37:17
them I don't think that like, you know,
37:19
you want to take neighbors as You
37:22
know at the at the back end of the
37:24
of the wide receiver twos is a wide receiver
37:26
three You're looking at them in round four around
37:28
five. I get it This
37:31
this felt pretty aggressive to me Especially like
37:33
I don't know again you start looking at
37:35
the receivers who were on the board. It's
37:37
Metcalf It's DJ more Devon say Adams is
37:39
on the board. I you both Niners are
37:41
on the board, right? Like it's a it's
37:44
a good group of receivers who were still there I
37:47
get it with the volume game with Malik
37:49
neighbors, but am I gonna get I
37:51
don't know I My my own projecting
37:53
for Malik neighbors does not make him a third
37:55
round pick. I will I will say that much
37:58
I'm with you. I like Malik neighbors a lot and
38:01
I think he's gonna get said volume but the
38:03
way he's gonna have to be said volume in
38:05
this offense with Daniel Jones and or Drew Lock
38:07
is very different than the type of targets that
38:09
Marvin Harrison is gonna get. Harrison's gonna get like
38:11
vertical targets on the outside. I think Malik neighbors
38:14
is gonna get a lot of like some
38:16
Mickey Mouse targets here just to get him
38:19
going in the open field which is which
38:21
is good and bad right. I think there's
38:23
gonna we could come away from Malik neighbors
38:25
this rookie season thinking like oh that was
38:28
really quote inefficient with the
38:30
volume that he got like which would could be
38:32
no fault of his own certainly. Like
38:34
and I don't care what you think about
38:36
Kyler Murray he's a much better quarterback than
38:38
either of these two guys here in New
38:40
York. So I think the floor ceiling combination
38:42
that is a wide range for Malik neighbors
38:44
and I just don't think the ceiling necessarily
38:46
is higher than DK Metcalf or
38:49
higher than a DJ more this year these guys or
38:51
some of the players you mentioned that go off in
38:53
round four. So I I agree to you that one
38:55
stood out to me. If that's gonna be the Malik
38:57
neighbors price this year I'm just not gonna have a
38:59
lot of Malik neighbors in drafts this
39:01
season which there's so many good receivers I don't necessarily
39:04
know if that's gonna kill me. Your
39:06
boy Sam LaPorta goes to Moe the
39:08
pick after of the fifth pick in
39:11
the third round. Are
39:13
you prepared to speak negatively about
39:16
Sam LaPorta, Andy Barons? Because I
39:18
do think this is gonna he's
39:20
gonna be an interesting conversation because
39:22
like clearly he's overtaken Travis
39:24
Kelsey as the industry consensus tight
39:26
end one 27th player
39:28
off the board in early best ball draft Scott on
39:31
the last episode was just kind of raising an eyebrow
39:33
at that Andy. Are you prepared to
39:35
speak poorly of your boy Sam LaPorta or should he be
39:37
the fifth player off the board? Yeah I
39:40
think everybody knows how I feel about that
39:42
I am NOT prepared to speak poorly of
39:44
Sam LaPorta. I like I you
39:46
know somebody wants to make the argument that maybe the maybe
39:49
the touchdowns aren't gonna be there to the same extent this
39:51
year I get it it's
39:53
just he was such a high-volume guy last
39:55
year like like the targets were there And
39:57
not enough has changed in this receiving.
40:00
Core to make me feel like volume
40:02
is gonna is gonna veer away from
40:04
Laporta so I think he's relatively safe.
40:06
I think that the biggest take away
40:08
a tight end is that I'm It's
40:10
not. It's not a tier of one
40:12
guy anymore. It's not just Travis Kelsey.
40:14
and then there's an empty tear and
40:16
then it's bookmark Andrews in the rest.
40:18
The tight ends, right? It's not like
40:20
anymore. And and the fact that like
40:22
unannounced some it's I'm He took Kelsey
40:24
over Laporte. I wouldn't. I wouldn't bat
40:26
an eye that like that, wouldn't you
40:28
know Trousers Kelsey has been a. Top three,
40:30
fantasy type and for eight straight seasons and he's
40:32
been the number one tight end in six of
40:34
this season. So like any looks great in the
40:37
post season. so if you wanna you want take
40:39
him first. I totally get it. But.
40:42
The the important thing is there's they're just
40:44
should be a lot of draft separation between
40:46
Laporta, Tween, Kelsey, and then it's It's like
40:49
guys like Mcbride and Andrews and Kincaid not
40:51
long after. So it's just. it's just flatter
40:53
and deeper, a tight end and that has
40:55
forced Lc out of the first round. It's
40:58
for staying inside and out of the first
41:00
round, out of the second round. I'm I'm
41:02
I'm actually like if if if this is
41:04
consistently the price on the porta, you know
41:06
I. I literally had i'm in ninety percent
41:09
of my legs last year and I'm a
41:11
smoker be the case, This year because
41:13
I'm for most part I'm I'm targeting
41:15
wide receivers and running backs. and in
41:18
round three, so I'm. I'm
41:20
in all the dynasty leagues or I drafted a last
41:22
year, but I'm probably not going to get him and
41:24
redraft nearly as often. Or
41:27
disprove appeared your I'd. Say
41:29
that. I will say that if you are worried
41:32
about sam board and I mean listen, if there's
41:34
plenty reason than you might not. Give.
41:36
You back on a third round. A D
41:38
P here. I. Would
41:40
say that if James Williams is going to
41:43
take a step forward, right? Yeah, Josh Reynolds
41:45
leaves mind sixty Four Targets. But it's not
41:47
just like James the we get to keep
41:49
his Forty four from last year or Forty
41:51
Two. you've mastered and absorb Josh Reynolds like
41:53
that's not how often works he's probably going
41:55
to take from somebody on the you taken
41:57
anything from on Rossi bribing. He might take
41:59
a. A bit of the hundred twenty from
42:01
Sam Laporta and and you really are kind of
42:03
banking on some touchdown. An. Equity there
42:06
to get you through the next few
42:08
phases. Ah, Other Pet again, I don't
42:10
think the anything else has to notable.
42:12
From this round I clicked James Cook
42:14
Year at a Love Taken click click
42:16
and James Cook Year But. I.
42:18
Did it the Bills or to be more committed
42:21
to run of the ball. Andy and James Cook
42:23
should be involved as a receiver and he finished
42:25
the year with some really strong games. So I'm
42:27
again. I. I took James Cook and unlike you,
42:29
I'm prepared to be self critical here that I
42:32
think I didn't love a stick. says.
42:35
It's really, it's really only the first three rounds
42:37
or I felt where I felt awesome about every
42:39
choice I made like I have a but I'm
42:41
I'm also I'm kind of on i that Jekyll
42:43
Island. I've got a much higher than I think
42:45
the rest of the industry does. I think either
42:47
use a plausible like and of first round sort
42:49
of running back Iraqi. I think it'd be like
42:51
top five top six am. I think the off
42:53
season has gone very well. for example, check out
42:55
and I don't know that were if we fully
42:58
adjusted to it. but I also think the Ah
43:00
seasons gone pretty well for James Cock. I'm in
43:02
our out think he's I don't think he has
43:04
an obvious. Arrival in that backfield, he has
43:06
the Josh Allen problem with the goal
43:08
line com I'd I'd I didn't think
43:10
he was like an end of tear
43:12
guy here, necessarily so like, you know,
43:15
I don't I? For whatever reason I
43:17
I've only done it a handful of
43:19
of drafts to this point, but I
43:21
am mostly Marks which who cares and
43:23
I have not landed upon James Cook
43:25
yet. But this does feel like the
43:28
right range forum and obviously his best
43:30
games last year where where week last.
43:34
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home internet uses during times of congestion. Alright,
44:08
let's move to round four here. This is
44:10
basically just boring old receiver
44:12
round if you want to give it a
44:15
theme. Devontae
44:17
Adams, Scott kicks off with Devontae
44:19
Adams. Travis Kelsey, Brandon Ayuk, Amari
44:21
Cooper, Devon Achan, your pick, Andy.
44:25
Staphon Dang. Wow, great pick by me.
44:27
I mean, just another stunner by Andy Barron.
44:31
We'll circle back to Achan. Staphon Diggs, Najee
44:34
Harris, Deebo Samuel, Cooper Cupp and Mike Evans.
44:36
So yeah, a lot of boring veteran
44:38
names. I'll tell you what,
44:40
I was I was tempted to
44:42
take Ayuk at the pick I took James Cook at. And
44:44
I was like, I think maybe I
44:46
could get Ayuk in the fourth round if
44:49
I just let it wait. And I because
44:51
I thought there was kind of a cliff
44:53
there from James Cook down to like the
44:55
next available running backs, which like I don't
44:57
have. I'm a little skeptical on Achan and
44:59
Najee Harris to Sharon at backfield, of course,
45:01
too. So I actually got from a strategy
45:03
perspective. I was like, this is the end
45:05
of a tear here. And as much as
45:07
I love Ayuk, I want Brandon Ayuk on
45:09
my teams. This was a healthy round for
45:11
boring receivers. So what picks stood out to
45:13
you in this one? Besides your own. I
45:15
think there's always, you know, sometimes
45:17
in fantasy, there's just there's just value on these
45:19
on these boring old guys. Like
45:23
to me, to me, this is really,
45:25
you know, I feel like I'm I feel like I'm
45:27
flattering Aaron, perhaps a bit too much here. Young
45:29
guy, we should probably be beating him down, molding
45:31
him, but I'm not. But
45:33
I like that Mike Evans pick Mike Evans
45:36
at like overall number 40. Again,
45:39
like everybody knows that Mike
45:41
Evans has never finished the season with less than
45:43
a thousand receiving yards. Huge
45:45
touchdown total last year. But
45:48
a bunch of monster touchdown totals over the years. So
45:51
like he's he's just a very bankable high
45:53
floor receiver that you're getting here. And like,
45:56
I Guess nobody's excited to draft Mike
45:58
Evans, but the number. These are
46:00
always there and the and right like he
46:02
he basically never misses. Super Super Cup was
46:05
ah you know this. I think this is
46:07
the right rounds. Kubrick up Again has had
46:09
one of the greatest individual receiving seasons in
46:11
the history of the league, so we gotta
46:14
respect for them. For credit for that, We
46:16
were panicky about him like three quarters the
46:18
way through the year last year and then
46:20
and then he finished really strong. I'm strung
46:23
together a bunch touchdowns at the end of
46:25
year are also saw some double digit target
46:27
games at the end of year citing he.
46:30
He saved his fantasy wrap a little bit.
46:32
I'm at the end of the season. I
46:34
think he belongs here. I you know, this
46:36
is where I thought calling got a little
46:38
wild and where I thought collins, you know
46:41
history with the cowboys and X cowboys might
46:43
have gotten the best of him. I legs,
46:45
I'm I'm does and I'm not taking Amari
46:47
Cooper. I'm when digs Cop Evans or or
46:49
on the board that says nothing that's going
46:51
to happen and I have like. I have
46:54
a lot of respect for the season that
46:56
Cooper delivered last year to like I thought
46:58
he was great. I
47:00
don't know that he's getting the Joe
47:02
Flacco bail out this year. I have.
47:05
I. Mean wow, do I have cancer? I
47:08
mean that his quarterback dish on Watson
47:10
has been good since twenty twenty and
47:12
that dead partial season that he gave
47:14
us last year was exactly to the
47:17
stat the parcel season that he gave
47:19
us the year before. So think the
47:21
most likely. Scenario. With
47:23
Watson is just bad quarterback my sweaty
47:25
and that an idea when be tied
47:28
to that. The. Joe
47:30
Flacco Bail On is an incredible line.
47:32
Most I I don't I don't always
47:34
read what producer call and puts into
47:36
chat but I'm I'm gonna read it
47:38
here. Cohen
47:40
says also it was. it was Friday night
47:43
of my birthday weekend a happy birthday college
47:45
and I was missing him which is just
47:47
of I mean in our racist thing for
47:49
assume an adult a say. About.
47:51
A player the no longer place your
47:54
favorite football team. We're not that I
47:56
mean my God Collins, What other one?
47:58
A birthday present yourself? It. Appears
48:01
the like I said. Okay, so like
48:03
uber wide receiver eighteen last year. So
48:05
I mean is it within this range?
48:07
I just think from when I look
48:09
at early Best buy a D P.
48:11
I actually do think Amari Cooper is
48:13
of value because he goes off the
48:15
board. Here's the fifty second overall player
48:18
the twenty ninth, but a huge range
48:20
in terms of kind of the sites,
48:22
but why does you between nine? Overall,
48:24
actually think I would take Amari Cooper
48:26
ahead of The Flowers and Tank Dell
48:28
and Key To Now and I t.
48:30
Higgins even are some of these guys.
48:32
Maybe he goes behind here. But.
48:34
In our draft. Yes, I do think Amari
48:36
Cooper was a little aggressive given some of
48:38
those other names that went off the board
48:41
in this round, but at the same time.
48:43
Yeah. He clearly has a quarterback problem, but
48:45
like depot Samuel has ah I think a
48:47
volume and an injury problem. Cooper Cop I
48:50
think has an old and an injury problems
48:52
and Mike Evans like you know you can
48:54
account on Baker Mayfield to run back what
48:56
you did last year, so I think he's
48:59
eager pride you that's savant. Digs has a
49:01
tard competition problem so. I'm. Not I'm
49:03
not to. I'm not not defending Are Calling wrote
49:05
in the chat about missing Amari Cooper Friday night.
49:07
I'm I'm not defending that, will not defend that.
49:10
but I will defend him a little bit. Like
49:12
maybe he's not so out on the ledge here
49:14
in terms of the tear of this receiver. Yeah.
49:17
I will just say like had he gone sixty
49:19
six here that's that's two rounds layer for right
49:21
like that's the middle his room sixth round emulate
49:23
the i think you know and that might be
49:25
a little that like he might be a nice
49:28
little value their like he probably belongs in the
49:30
conversation with like I know Waddle Maclaurin. I'm looking
49:32
at the names when I take i wouldn't project
49:34
Mad Sigma had of George Pickens. I'm looking at
49:36
some of the names in the sixth round now
49:38
and I like him better than all those guys.
49:40
I like him better than Tank Dell. yes Alyssa
49:42
I'm not move into the just moved his move
49:44
in and around five here because and will uglier
49:47
I. Read awesome the now and see if you like any
49:49
of them better that you mention some of them a better
49:51
than them. Ah, Than than
49:53
Amari Cooper here so around five goes
49:55
with Aaron takes to Monte Smith. This.
49:58
is the round of the quarterback run literally the four
50:00
picks Jalen hurts CJ Stroud Patrick
50:02
Mahomes Lamar Jackson you come back
50:05
Andy with unironically a great pick
50:08
Michael Pittman Michael Pittman jr.
50:10
Who actually do I think I would take Michael
50:12
Pittman ahead of of a Mari
50:14
Cooper But Joe mixin Colin takes Joe mixin in this
50:16
round. I took Jalen wattle just in kind of like
50:19
a I Think it's
50:21
a little late for Jalen wattle Terry McLaurin and
50:23
then Kenneth Walker here So I read off those
50:25
receiver names any of those guys stand out to
50:27
you is like You know should be better
50:29
than some of those round four guys that went before them. Yeah,
50:31
I like I like Smith I like Pittman. I like
50:36
Like McLaurin over Over
50:38
a Mari Cooper. It's it's it's close like
50:40
this is I'm so ready to get hurt
50:42
by Terry McLaurin again. I'm This
50:46
is this is more the conversation Yeah, these
50:48
receivers feel a little bit more Cooper ish
50:50
to me I will I will say on
50:52
the on the issue of the quarterbacks like
50:55
And this is one of those things where like you get you get a
50:57
bunch of people who work in the fantasy industry Together and you make them
50:59
have a draft You know one
51:01
quarterback league and they the quarterbacks
51:03
just simply don't go where they
51:05
will in a lot of hometown
51:07
leagues right like when you're when
51:09
you're in somebody's Basement
51:12
and you're a few beverages in and
51:14
you're drafting a team like definitely there's
51:16
three dudes who are taking quarterbacks in
51:18
the second round Like that is what
51:20
happens in live sloppy drunken drafts So
51:23
that the quarterback run does not happen in
51:25
round five But when
51:27
it happens, it's gonna look like this like these
51:29
are these are I think the right names that
51:31
that are gonna Just go boom boom. Boom. I
51:33
don't know that they'll go in this order I
51:35
don't know that we'll always see CJ CJ Stroud
51:37
go ahead of Patrick Mahomes, but it's not it's
51:40
not crazy He's gonna be throwing a Nico
51:42
and digs and and tanked L and man
51:44
That is a loaded offense and
51:46
I love everything they did and we love what
51:48
Stroud did last year So like it's these are
51:50
the names these are the right names So this
51:52
probably happens in your league in like round two
51:54
round three And I'm I'm a
51:56
little I will also say that I'm a little
51:58
bit surprised Not
52:01
to drag a Colin pick back into this. So Colin
52:03
takes Josh Allen in round three. I
52:06
don't see two rounds of separation between
52:08
Josh Allen and these quarterbacks. And
52:11
that is, I'm recognizing the
52:13
fact that Josh Allen has been the
52:15
QB one multiple times, right? Like I
52:17
full respect for Josh Allen. Like
52:20
his receiving core did not
52:22
get, you know, it's not
52:24
upgraded in any obvious way relative
52:27
to last season and all these other
52:29
receiving rooms, you know,
52:32
obviously things are looking great in
52:34
Houston. Things are looking better in Kansas City than
52:36
they were a year ago. I think things are
52:38
looking really good. Like second year of Zae Flowers.
52:40
I like where Baltimore's receiving room is at. Like I
52:42
just, I don't know. I
52:45
don't think that Josh Allen is the, you know, don't
52:48
even give it a thought QB one. I think there's
52:50
a conversation there. Early ADP does
52:53
seem to disagree with you a little bit where
52:55
he is the consensus QB one. He's the 21st
52:57
overall player off the board in early basketball drafts.
52:59
And the next highest guy that's taken is Jalen
53:01
Hurts at 33. So actually we
53:03
kind of, this was right,
53:05
right? Because again, early drafts Jalen Hurts 33,
53:08
Lamar Jackson 40, Patrick Holmes 42, CJ Stroud 47.
53:11
Like that is sort of how it goes in
53:15
drafts, right? So, and
53:17
I kind of liked that there hasn't been,
53:20
this felt one of like one of those
53:22
Twitter straw men things where as soon as
53:24
Stefan Diggs gets traded, everybody's like, Josh Allen
53:26
about to be a big value. Make
53:28
sure you send trade offers for Josh Allen at
53:31
Dynasty. And like, nobody seems to
53:33
have like overreacted to that piece of news, which
53:35
I think is right. Look,
53:37
should, could Jalen Hurts finish the QB one or any of
53:39
the other guys do the QB one? I think totally possible,
53:41
but I still think Josh Allen is such a safe bet.
53:43
So I'm a little bit disagreeing with you
53:46
on that one, but let's move into the ground. Well, that's
53:48
the argument for Allen, right? I don't, I don't see a
53:50
scenario where a healthy Josh Allen is not a top three
53:52
or five fantasy quarterback. There's no way he drops from those
53:54
rings. Yeah. Let's move
53:57
to round Six here. Trey McBride, George
53:59
Pickens, Anthony Richards. Then by your boy here
54:01
Don King Cade Alvin Kamara great Had my
54:03
indie bands Alvin Kamara, Air and Jones. How
54:06
many Pollard marketed as Hank Dell Keenan Allen?
54:08
Ah yes I I I took the plunge
54:10
on a the riches in your I explained
54:12
a lot of my logic on the last
54:15
episode with Scott where. The
54:17
biggest thing to be as I think. Joe.
54:20
Mixon, Kenneth Walker going round five and another you'd sir.
54:22
I'm not sure how I'm gonna be on can't walk
54:24
around so where can I went out by like when Counter
54:26
Joe Mixon I was like. I
54:28
think that was the running back class because after
54:30
that, like. I can see scenarios where
54:32
Alvin Kamara is useful. I could see scenario
54:34
where and Jones is useful. but like when
54:37
I took a the richest and if I
54:39
was weighing him cause I thought music I'd
54:41
have taken two running backs here barkley and
54:43
and and James Cook. but I'd probably like
54:46
to take a third running back. I
54:49
actually ended up getting Dave Montgomery the next round on.
54:51
it was like wow Exceed! I like Dave Montgomery just
54:53
as much if not more than a lot of the
54:55
back. They went ahead of him here so I felt
54:57
for actually shot again shot at the we shouted out
54:59
and enough shout out to me. I
55:01
did guy degrade to get the Montgomery there,
55:03
but when I was weighing richard Sin against
55:05
some of these other backs just like. This.
55:09
He has that type of upside like
55:11
define my fantasy season. Upside were those
55:13
running backs at this point do Not.
55:16
Yeah. This was. When.
55:18
I when I took Pittman. This. Was my
55:20
point. Richardson was my plan com I you
55:22
know and I like who gets who gets
55:24
mad about getting snake dinner in a mock
55:27
draft sign. It's it's where I'm but I
55:29
but Richardson. I was gonna come back with
55:31
Richardson and I was like oh man that's
55:33
my huck, that's that's what am I right
55:35
about in this damn recap. I had a
55:37
blow that up because harm in Texas and
55:40
thing Richards and I think there's a i
55:42
think Watterson it is the right quarterback to
55:44
take like once. all these once all these
55:46
sure thing guys are off the board and
55:48
it's a one quarterback. League. So you know if
55:51
richardson I don't think is going to face plant but
55:53
if we face plants it's a one quarterback like it's
55:55
fine there's gonna be you know you're in a find
55:57
a guy on the waiver wire who's gonna give you
55:59
forty. Six hundred yards right? Like That's just
56:01
how this goes in attend team one quarterback
56:04
like so you should take big swings. I'm
56:06
and Richardson is the right way to do
56:08
it. I'm rushing. Upside is massive. Friday he
56:10
runs for for touchy feely. Finished one game
56:12
last year at a place for games. really
56:14
finishes one of them and gives us seven
56:17
combined touchdowns. I liked everything about, like the
56:19
glimpses that we saw of what that passing
56:21
game was gonna look like and what they
56:23
were doing forum I I just think it
56:25
all looks great on the receiving corps. Got
56:27
better. They drafted to build around their quarterback
56:30
like I just. I just love what they
56:32
did in the off season and as he
56:34
just if we get sixteen games out of
56:36
Anthony Richardson, I don't see how that guy's
56:38
not a top. Three. Top Five:
56:40
Top six Quarterback right? Like it's just
56:43
it, It probably hurts Jonathan Taylor. It's
56:45
going to be difficult to said pick
56:47
which receiver other than Pittman is gonna
56:49
thrive. But you know, I think Richardson
56:51
can be great and I think he's
56:53
one of those guys. were like that.
56:56
You know, ninety ninth percentile outcome is
56:58
a total golden ticket player who takes
57:00
it to, you know, not just the
57:02
playoffs but me to those to the
57:04
championship round. So I'd I'd love the
57:06
Richardson Tech. I think I'm I think
57:09
that's kind of. Upside that we need
57:11
to start looking at here. I guess
57:13
I would attack at running back. I
57:15
would say that I think the cliffs
57:17
occurs after Jones com era. Montgomery.
57:20
Certainly, I'm awake. We're going to go another
57:22
round here and I hated. You know, Please.
57:25
I hate to compliment calling but I think Zamir
57:28
White where he got him was was was a
57:30
solid tech. Like I think he's part of that
57:32
running back group that we can feel okay about
57:34
and then immediately gets really rough. Yes
57:37
I agree that just lost on a
57:39
be rich the anti rich that either
57:42
going to be be defining fantasy player
57:44
of twenty twenty four or the biggest
57:46
like you guys are a dumb ass
57:48
the thrall com and we're getting from
57:50
from from listeners and you totally and
57:52
not just us. Because. if you to
57:54
if you listeners my gas and oil is is
57:57
this podcast i mean never one shout the hell
57:59
out to you okay If you don't listen
58:01
to any other football or fantasy podcast, you only
58:03
listen to this, I love
58:05
you. Send me your address so I can send
58:07
you like a gift basket or something because that's
58:09
insane dedication. Again, probably that's
58:12
nobody. The whole industry is hyped
58:14
up about Anthony Richardson and I do think that there's
58:16
a chance that all these
58:18
receivers are so good that even Pittman loses a
58:20
little bit of volume here because Mitchell's that good
58:22
and Josh Downes is that good. It's
58:25
the old, I'll shout out, Run for Johnny here and I'm
58:27
going to mess up the analogy. If you're a real old
58:29
head, you know who Run for Johnny is in the fantasy
58:31
business. He used to have a saying
58:34
about like, forget the syrup,
58:36
just get the pancakes or something like that. When
58:39
you can't pick which receiver you like in an
58:42
offense, just get the quarterback, especially when the quarterback
58:44
runs himself. That's part of my Anthony
58:46
Richardson logic, but I don't want to make this
58:48
the second straight Anthony Richardson podcast because again, I
58:50
am very worried we're going to get inundated with
58:52
hate mail on Anthony Richardson if he gets hurt
58:55
in week two. Round
58:57
seven, you mentioned some of the picks
58:59
already, but George Kittle, Rashid Rice, this
59:01
was done before Rashid Rice, the second
59:03
legal incident or potential investigation. So pretty
59:06
tough to know what to do with
59:08
Rashid Rice. Jaden
59:10
Reed, Zae Flowers, DeAndre Swift, Kyle
59:12
Pitts, your pick Andy. Zamir
59:14
White, as you mentioned, went to producer Colin. I
59:16
took David Montgomery, which is a great pick by
59:18
me. I mean, unbelievable value for David Montgomery. It
59:21
actually is. Joe Burrow. Yeah, it actually is. I
59:23
made some dumb picks or some picks I didn't
59:25
love. We're doing this
59:27
with David Montgomery again. We just did this
59:29
last year. Anyways, Joe Burrow
59:31
and James Conner finish out the
59:34
round. This round definitely has a
59:36
lot of those potential second year
59:38
receivers, which have been a little
59:40
hit or miss in previous seasons where we get
59:43
over our skis with these guys sometimes, but also
59:45
they can be like the value ads of
59:47
fantasy football. Rashid Rice, obviously, I don't know
59:50
if he's going to go in this round
59:52
for long, certainly if he ends up getting
59:54
suspended. Maybe He still will.
59:56
I Don't know. He's impossible to talk about. Jaden
59:58
Reed and Zae Flowers are definitely. Interesting players
1:00:00
were I could kind of go either way
1:00:02
on I love them. I love the players and
1:00:05
can go either way on them as as
1:00:07
fantasy commodities especially once we get to the
1:00:09
next round. Were like. Were next.
1:00:11
Runs a really interesting receive around. Saw this kind
1:00:13
of limited that. Yeah. We're
1:00:16
races and almost impossible conversation, right?
1:00:18
Because like, I'll faint since. Fantasy
1:00:20
Expert Sound. Ridiculous.
1:00:22
When we try to break down
1:00:25
a complicated medical situation and like
1:00:27
when we wait into the law
1:00:29
where it's far worse, right? So
1:00:31
liked it it. It could be
1:00:33
anywhere from. The. Suspension doesn't hit
1:00:35
until twenty twenty five to he loses
1:00:37
half a season two he doesn't play
1:00:39
again. I had no idea what's gonna
1:00:41
happen with her. she rests. I can
1:00:44
tell you that ah if he just
1:00:46
had a normal quiet on eventful last
1:00:48
season he's probably going around three around
1:00:50
for so like at at at some
1:00:52
point he probably had to go in
1:00:54
this market for acted like there's I'd
1:00:56
switch over there with Dicey by the
1:00:58
way if he went round three especially
1:01:00
after they add Xavier Worthy and Marquees
1:01:02
Brown. I be like so. We
1:01:05
they are we gonna get the same Mickey Mouse
1:01:07
Robot Rishi Rice God for a large yeah points
1:01:09
of last year. Is he going at it? Does
1:01:11
he need? I don't know that would be a
1:01:13
little aggressive so I'm okay with him though around
1:01:15
seven with the obvious caviar, but I I should
1:01:17
say legal. Disclaimer: I should
1:01:20
make jokes, but legal Disclaimer: I am
1:01:22
not actually allowed to call myself a
1:01:24
fancy Experts as I don't have fifty
1:01:26
years of experience in the field like,
1:01:28
and he does. I'm just some jackass
1:01:30
of the podcast. As. A real fancy
1:01:32
expert though and he is right that they would
1:01:34
folks in the industry try to talk about ah.
1:01:37
Ah, Yes, this is what this may
1:01:39
I ask. Good luck? I've no idea,
1:01:41
I know idea. Yeah.
1:01:44
no no widowed realistically go down that road and
1:01:46
sounds sensible com i will just say that have
1:01:48
none of this had happened i do think that's
1:01:50
where i go and not saying that i'm the
1:01:52
guy takes him in round three but yet you
1:01:54
know is lot of their there was previously a
1:01:57
lot of ray rice or ray rice my god
1:01:59
have mercy race and enthusiasm out there. So
1:02:02
like this is probably an acceptable place for
1:02:04
him to go in a mock that is
1:02:06
a total non-binding situation that nobody has to
1:02:08
play out, right? Like I get it.
1:02:11
The rest of this round, you know,
1:02:14
to the point that you
1:02:16
made about David Montgomery, like probably
1:02:18
shouldn't be six rounds of difference
1:02:20
between Jameer Gibbs and Montgomery. Like
1:02:23
they're, I'm excited about Gibbs
1:02:25
too, but man, like Montgomery is going to
1:02:27
have a role. They loved him last year.
1:02:29
They absolutely loved him last year. They loved
1:02:31
feeding him inside the five yard line. Like
1:02:34
he's going to pile up touchdowns. He,
1:02:36
you know, he just merely needs to
1:02:38
stay healthy. The other thing that happened
1:02:40
here is like, I was really, I
1:02:42
was really looking at Zay Flowers and
1:02:44
you mentioned the second year receivers. Like
1:02:47
if Zay Flowers doesn't, doesn't
1:02:49
do anything new, doesn't get better
1:02:52
in any discernible way. This
1:02:54
is still fine value for him, right? And it, but,
1:02:56
but if he does, if they, if they do more
1:02:58
interesting things with him, if they let him get downfield
1:03:00
a little bit, if we, you know, if
1:03:03
we see a bump in targets, there's a
1:03:05
lot of different ways that Zay Flowers can,
1:03:07
I think blow this, blow this ADP out
1:03:09
of the blow this draft price out of
1:03:11
the water. Final
1:03:14
round here, round eight of this
1:03:16
mock goes Austin Echler, Roman
1:03:18
Dre Stevenson, T Higgins, that was
1:03:20
my pick. Colin takes Nick
1:03:22
Chubb. You take Marquis Brown, then
1:03:24
Calvin Ridley, Deontay Johnson, Raheem Mostert,
1:03:26
Roma Dunsey to Dalton Del Don
1:03:29
and Brock Purdy. My theme of
1:03:31
this round was going to be
1:03:33
like the boring receivers, um,
1:03:35
that the boring receivers that all could very
1:03:38
realistically out produce everybody that was taken in
1:03:40
round seven. Like if I tell you that
1:03:42
T Higgins, I was like, T
1:03:45
Higgins is still on the board. Like T Higgins
1:03:47
out produces Rishi rice, Jaden Reed and Zay Flowers,
1:03:49
0% surprise. Marquis Brown out
1:03:51
produces any of those guys in
1:03:53
Patrick Holmes's offense, 0% surprise. Calvin
1:03:55
Ridley, I'd be maybe, maybe a
1:03:57
little surprised, but like still very.
1:04:00
good player and Will Levesque takes a step.
1:04:02
We're still counting on some things
1:04:04
to happen there for those second year receivers.
1:04:06
I can see Calvin Ridley out producing those.
1:04:09
Shoot, even Deontay Johnson, like if Bryce Young
1:04:11
is just a viable NFL quarterback, Deontay Johnson
1:04:13
could out produce any of those second year
1:04:15
receivers. Of course Dalton Del Don has to
1:04:17
ruin it here, the boring receiver theme by
1:04:20
going with an exciting rookie in Roma Dunez
1:04:22
to end round eight. But alas, generally that
1:04:24
was my theme of this round. Yeah, I
1:04:26
think with Deontay you can just, I mean,
1:04:29
shoot, just look at the season that Adam
1:04:31
Seelen had in a version of the Panthers
1:04:33
offense that is surely worse than
1:04:35
what we'll get this year. I think
1:04:38
Deontay at this stage a better player, right? Like
1:04:40
you can have that year and you can have
1:04:42
that year except finish it off. Look at any
1:04:45
season Deontay Johnson has ever had,
1:04:48
like in his professional career. It's pretty
1:04:51
similar. Yeah, yeah. So I think
1:04:53
round eight for Deontay
1:04:55
was a really nice poll. I actually
1:04:57
think like, you know, whatever, I can
1:04:59
talk myself into H-Ann. I took
1:05:01
him earlier in this draft, but like this is a
1:05:04
four round gap between H-Ann and Raheem Mostert who
1:05:07
was one of the dive, right? So they've committed,
1:05:09
they've like kind of doubled down on Raheem Mostert.
1:05:11
They like him. He fits
1:05:13
the, you know, he fits the theme
1:05:15
of the crazy fast players who they
1:05:17
use really well. So I think Mostert
1:05:20
was a nice value. And my God, I
1:05:22
hope Dalton is right on Roma Deontay. I
1:05:25
was in the same building as Roma Deontay last
1:05:27
night, by the way, at the Sky's Chicago
1:05:29
Sky's preseason game. It was great, like the
1:05:33
big Bears representation there. That was cool to see. I
1:05:35
think Deontay, exactly. Deontay just a
1:05:38
wonderful player. He's got the most pristine
1:05:44
reception, perception, route profile that
1:05:46
you'll ever see, right? Just
1:05:48
green splashed all over the
1:05:50
page. Love
1:05:53
him. It's possible that
1:05:55
he is the Bears number three receiver
1:05:57
in the season, right? Like, and And
1:06:00
if he is, by the way, it's the second
1:06:03
wide receiver three in real life that Dalton
1:06:05
took in this draft because he also took
1:06:07
tank Del. So I don't know, building your
1:06:09
receiving core around like the actual
1:06:11
like in reality wide receiver threes on their teams.
1:06:13
I don't know if that's where I'm going to
1:06:15
go. But I do think a
1:06:18
dunes is a phenomenal player. It might take, you
1:06:20
know, it's going to take a best case scenario
1:06:22
from Caleb Williams for him to really smash this
1:06:24
year. But it might
1:06:26
take him leapfrogging Keenan Allen at some point.
1:06:28
But I think but like that's in play.
1:06:30
I think oh, dunes is great. And I
1:06:32
just man, I hope Dalton nailed this. Yeah,
1:06:36
I'm of the opinion that
1:06:38
I'm not sure that I buy that like, there
1:06:41
should be a round three round six
1:06:43
around eight that seems too clear, too clean
1:06:46
for the Bears receivers. Like, I think that
1:06:48
yeah, you should be cautious of the dunes
1:06:50
because he's a rookie. But if
1:06:52
he's the best receiver on this roster in year one, like
1:06:54
he's that he is good enough to do that. Now,
1:06:57
I will also say that he is never not in
1:06:59
the same place as Caleb Williams, like they are, they
1:07:01
are like at the hip attached all of a sudden,
1:07:04
right? Like you just you never see a photo of
1:07:06
one without the without the other appearing in it. So
1:07:09
I'm pretty sure that they're going to be tight throughout the
1:07:11
offseason. And
1:07:14
I think sometimes we stretch that too much like the
1:07:16
fact that CJ Stroud whenever he's
1:07:18
asked about anything, he somehow mentions Tank
1:07:20
Del. That doesn't mean that
1:07:22
I think Tank Del is definitely going to be the number
1:07:24
one receiver on this team. I don't think that that means
1:07:27
that about Roma dunes, but it just shows like there's a
1:07:29
trust in a bond and a chemistry there that I mean,
1:07:31
shoot, it was it was signal for Tank Del last year,
1:07:33
he ended up being a really, really good pick in fantasy
1:07:35
last year until he got hurt. So that
1:07:38
could be a thing for Roma dunes. It does doesn't mean
1:07:40
that he's gonna be easily the best receiver, but I
1:07:42
just think I think all of them are going
1:07:44
to be a little closer than our mock indicates
1:07:46
here. And actually all of them could kind of
1:07:48
come away from the year like
1:07:50
a little disappointed by all of them, basically, but then
1:07:52
very excited about what you get out of the Bears
1:07:55
often. So I think that is in play. And
1:07:57
I'm with you that most dirt is very interesting here. Um,
1:08:01
should, yeah, should divine HN really be
1:08:03
around four pick and most would be
1:08:05
round eight? I, I'm a
1:08:07
little skeptical, uh, on that one. My
1:08:09
final take on this mock is just,
1:08:12
you know, we've said some good things about, about
1:08:14
Aaron so far. Uh, I'll
1:08:16
get, I'll give him a shout out for just a pure
1:08:19
Homer vanity pay. He's a 49ers fan.
1:08:22
Just taking Brock Purdy with the final pick of
1:08:24
this round. Um, Aaron, I respect the
1:08:26
hell out of it. This mock
1:08:28
matters, not like zero to real
1:08:30
life, to your job, to
1:08:32
anything. Just be like, F it.
1:08:35
I'm just, I don't care what I've done so
1:08:37
far. I'm just taking Brock Purdy with my final
1:08:39
pick. He, he, he starts it out with a
1:08:41
Niner at the top of the draft and McCaffrey
1:08:43
and he finishes it out with a Niner, um,
1:08:45
in, in round eight. So shout out to Aaron for that. I
1:08:48
think he also liked the symmetry of making
1:08:50
Brock Purdy the Mr. Irrelevant of, of our
1:08:53
eight round mock draft, right? Um,
1:08:55
but it, it transitioned a little bit
1:08:57
to like, I thought, I thought Aaron was going
1:08:59
to, was going to bypass quarterback altogether in this thing.
1:09:01
And there were Scott and I, um, were the only
1:09:04
two drafters who ultimately did not take a quarterback in
1:09:06
the top eight rounds. Again, I was open to
1:09:08
it. I was looking at Anthony Richardson. I'm not saying
1:09:10
that you have to wait until like round nine or
1:09:12
round 10. I, I just want
1:09:14
to point out that if you, if you do
1:09:17
wait, um, like Scott and I, like
1:09:19
based on the way this is gone, everybody else
1:09:21
has a QB, one QB league. Um, Scott and
1:09:23
I could probably wait now until like, I don't
1:09:25
know, round 11, round 12 at
1:09:28
the position and the guys still on the
1:09:30
board include last year's QB three, Dak Prescott
1:09:32
last year's QB five, Jordan love who's, who's
1:09:35
great. And is also one of those guys
1:09:37
who like, I don't know, maybe we don't
1:09:39
want to touch any of the receivers, but
1:09:42
all the numbers go to Jordan love. So like, we like
1:09:44
that. Um, Kyler Murray is still out
1:09:46
there. That's a guy who's been the overall QB three
1:09:48
before he's had an 800 rushing yard
1:09:51
season, right? Like we love Kyler Murray. Um,
1:09:53
there's just a bunch of options. Like there's,
1:09:56
It's fine. If You do, you can get away with anything in
1:09:58
a, in a 10 team. The most part
1:10:00
right and so it's fine if you you know if you're
1:10:03
in on the early quarterbacks I get it but if you
1:10:05
with on those guys if the run happens in your out.
1:10:07
Like. You you can still get Jordan
1:10:09
Love super late and this format and and
1:10:11
you're fine like back I can definitely finishes the
1:10:14
Qb for he besides. Yeah.
1:10:16
I think that's a very viable smart
1:10:18
strategy by you Andy Be only thing
1:10:20
I will say as you know you
1:10:22
gotta know your draft Roman I'm if
1:10:24
we if we. Pushed. This mock
1:10:27
into next weekend and and an old Collins
1:10:29
Social Plans are this weekend, but maybe not.
1:10:31
feeling a little emotional after a few drinks
1:10:33
and and he wants that? Yeah yeah, it's
1:10:35
a Josh Allen earlier, but I'm. He.
1:10:37
Wants to get one last ride with Dak Prescott
1:10:39
is not could be a cowboy agains a take
1:10:42
stack as as back and I guys he comes
1:10:44
around and Exxon it just takes Jordan. Love the
1:10:46
I have heard of in Florida your to be
1:10:48
heard him. Heard of this earlier this year, the
1:10:50
playoffs right when when Jordan across the cowboys so
1:10:52
got into your room and he barons ah but
1:10:54
otherwise yes agree that it's definitely a very viable
1:10:56
strategy or to wait wait wait at its own.
1:10:58
Want to sit near with like the Jared Goff
1:11:00
team in a in a ten Deamer. I.
1:11:03
Mean, I really hope that calling can like. I
1:11:05
hope he can take us to hard. I hope
1:11:07
calling takes the coating that he received today right?
1:11:09
Like were not. Yeah, Now we're not. Try nuts
1:11:11
or not here to protect your feelings. Call And
1:11:13
we're not. We're not. We're We're here to make
1:11:15
you better. I'm and I hope you really take
1:11:17
this. I mean
1:11:19
how could he not take this? very
1:11:22
serious? Pi has this entire very serious
1:11:24
exercise the heart. Andy Well, Barons.
1:11:26
Body appreciate you joining the show and
1:11:29
doing this thing man because like like
1:11:31
you said of the top it's your
1:11:33
last thing before vacation so I hope
1:11:35
you happy belated honeymoon, have a great
1:11:37
time and. Sank. You.
1:11:39
I am so looking forward to it. Ah,
1:11:42
we are both very much looking forward to
1:11:44
my wife and I. But yes that is
1:11:46
going to do it for this show. I
1:11:48
make sure you read Andy's a mock draft
1:11:51
recap on the website if for nothing else
1:11:53
just to see him dunk on da da
1:11:55
donna Little cyber bullying of Donald on is
1:11:58
never a bad thing, but. Speaking
1:12:00
of Dalton Del Don, and I
1:12:02
say all this in jest because you guys know I love
1:12:04
Dalton, and on Tuesday Dalton is going to
1:12:07
join me for one last kind of like deep
1:12:09
dive on the NFL draft. Really what this is
1:12:11
just going to be is Dalton
1:12:13
is going to just drop hot takes and it's kind
1:12:15
of a heat check on those, you know, because this
1:12:18
is the time of the year for Dalton to start
1:12:20
getting the flamethrower ready. And I'm going to tell
1:12:23
him whether he needs to bow that heat back
1:12:25
or not. Obviously, like I said, that's going to
1:12:27
be on Tuesday. I'm not going to be here.
1:12:29
We're pre taping that one. So for full transparency,
1:12:31
we're going to do that on Friday. And
1:12:34
then it's going to publish next week. But
1:12:36
with all that detail, you didn't need to
1:12:38
know. Hopefully you're still excited about it. Until
1:12:41
then, we're out.
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