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let's do this. How are you? What

0:58

the fuckers? What the fuck buddies? What the

1:01

fuck nicks? What's happening? I'm Mark Maron. This

1:03

is my podcast, WTF. Welcome to it.

1:06

What's going on? I know,

1:08

I hope you're doing alright. I

1:10

know the last time I talked to a lot of

1:13

you, I was a little panicky. I

1:15

was a little out of my head. A

1:17

little worked up. Well, I

1:20

am in Vancouver now for

1:22

the first little jaunt for a few days. I'm

1:25

up here, that's why it sounds a little different. I'm

1:27

on a mic in a room and the room has

1:29

tile in it. I've sublet or

1:31

what do you call it? I'm renting

1:33

an apartment downtown

1:37

Vancouver. It's weird because I'm very

1:39

close to the

1:41

hotel that I really loved in

1:44

Vancouver. It's closed

1:46

right now for renovations, but

1:48

it's not far from where I am. I remember

1:50

one of the reasons why

1:52

I loved that hotel so much.

1:55

I remember it. The first night I

1:57

stayed there, I'm like, oh my God. This

2:00

is the most quiet hotel I've

2:02

ever stayed in in my life.

2:05

The windows must be amazing on

2:07

this hotel. And then I'm literally

2:11

very close to it. And I realize now

2:14

nothing happens in downtown Vancouver

2:16

that makes any real amount

2:18

of noise. So

2:20

I was hoodwinked. I

2:24

was fooled, maybe not. I mean, it was

2:26

still quiet, but it's really not. It's not,

2:29

you know, you spend so much time in other cities.

2:31

Like I spend a lot of time in New York.

2:34

And no matter how high up I am in

2:36

a hotel in New York, I

2:39

can still hear the shit on the street. But

2:41

here in Vancouver, like I'm looking out at the

2:43

city right now from the hotel. I'm on the

2:45

17th floor of this place. And

2:49

pretty slow going, not a complaint. Very

2:51

peaceful, very nice, very

2:54

quiet. Yeah,

2:56

so I've been up here for a few days. And once

2:59

I got up here, got

3:01

the work permit, got settled

3:03

in this place, immediately went

3:05

to a Whole Foods to ground myself

3:07

in a reality that I understand. But

3:10

I got that same vibe, man. Every time I come

3:12

up here, I'm like, oh my God,

3:15

what a load off. What

3:17

a fucking load off. Whatever

3:20

is going on down there in

3:22

the States every day, just

3:24

kind of plowing into my brain through the

3:26

machine on my hand or the machine on

3:28

my desk or for other people talking or

3:31

just being on the road with

3:33

other people in car. It's just not

3:37

here, man. It is just not. And

3:41

there's sort of a peacefulness to it that

3:43

I fucking dig. Now

3:45

look, talk to me after

3:47

a few months of this, coming up here every, you

3:50

know, going back and forth. You

3:52

know, let's talk then. Let's see if

3:54

whatever I'm appreciating right now about the

3:57

silence and the pace and the quiet

3:59

and the- lack of the

4:01

malignant psychic assault of culture

4:03

deteriorating of the world deteriorating

4:06

every day look I can

4:08

still get it on

4:10

my phone but it doesn't seem as immediate man

4:12

because it's not here but talk to me in a

4:15

few months about whether or

4:18

not that peaceful feeling has

4:20

made me fucking insane let

4:23

me know good show today

4:25

by the way got a lot

4:27

of good shows coming up I've done a lot of

4:30

interviews lately you know we

4:32

got a lot already done which makes

4:34

it easier for me but today Steph

4:36

Tolev is on the show I don't

4:39

know I used to see her around the store all the time I didn't

4:41

really know her I would I

4:44

barely watched her for a while but then all of a sudden I

4:46

watched her I'm like holy fuck this this

4:48

this woman is a force to be

4:50

reckoned with a filthy tank

4:52

of a comic she

4:55

had a sketch comedy group in Canada called

4:57

Lady Stash she's on tour in

4:59

Europe right now and she'll be back in

5:01

the US next month but she's just a

5:04

tour de force of filth and

5:07

I love it I love it she's

5:09

got a very specific type of

5:12

swagger that you don't see or

5:15

hear much and she's

5:17

shameless and she's very

5:19

funny in a very specific way

5:21

but also sort of a timeless

5:23

way yes yes

5:25

that is Steph she's something

5:27

else she's on the show today that

5:29

was very exciting I'm performing up here

5:31

in Vancouver on Friday June 21st at

5:34

the Vogue Theatre then I'm in Seattle

5:36

on Saturday June 22nd at the

5:38

Moore Theatre in the fall

5:41

I'm coming to Tucson Phoenix

5:43

Oklahoma City Dallas Houston San

5:45

Antonio Boulder Colorado Joliet Illinois

5:47

Skokie Illinois Grand

5:50

Rapids Michigan Sacramento and Napa California to

5:52

get all my dates including the ones

5:54

from the summer that I had to

5:56

reschedule go to WTF pod comm slash

5:59

tour So

6:01

I got up here, I got to

6:03

Vancouver, last night, like day one, Owen

6:06

Wilson texted me, and

6:08

we had not met in person yet. So

6:11

it was kind of weird. We talked on the phone a few times, we

6:13

were going to be playing off each other a lot in this show. Obviously

6:16

I know Owen from the movies, and

6:19

I'd never met him before. And

6:21

the other night we went out to dinner, hung

6:24

out, took a walk, had

6:27

some nice laughs, got to

6:29

know each other, acted like

6:31

a couple of middle-aged guys talking about

6:33

stuff, and it was real, it was

6:35

comfortable. There's one thing about doing this

6:37

show, and I don't know that

6:39

I always had it though. There's

6:42

one, I don't, you know,

6:44

he's just a guy. And

6:46

I don't know if I would have been that way, if it had been

6:48

years ago. I told him, I said,

6:51

look man, you know, these guys

6:53

in this show, you know, they're

6:55

us, dude. I mean, on some level they're

6:57

us. He's like, yeah. So

7:00

it's, I think we're going

7:02

to be all right. And then the first day, what do we do?

7:04

I had to go do a wardrobe

7:07

fitting. It's so weird, man. When

7:09

I go to do this work, you

7:12

know, I put a lot of thought into it. You know,

7:14

I make some decisions about, you know, the

7:16

character, and I think about certain ways that, you

7:18

know, I may want him to look or what

7:21

I'm willing to do, the risks

7:23

I'm willing to take in terms of, you

7:25

know, changing my appearance or whatever. And

7:27

I thought like, maybe this guy's got kind of a

7:29

short hair. He's a little bro-y. Maybe he's got a

7:31

goatee or whatever. And then I

7:34

thought like, well, maybe he starts with the full

7:36

beard and then he goes to, anyway, I'd

7:38

grown out all my hair and all my facial hair just so

7:41

we had something to work with. And of course I get to

7:43

the wardrobe and then I get to hair and makeup

7:45

and they're sort of like, yeah, we're just going to

7:48

trim what you have. I'm like, yeah, but it, but,

7:50

but, you know, I, I'm not going

7:52

to argue. I'm like, fine, whatever you

7:54

guys want. And then they're like, well, maybe we'll make

7:56

it a goatee later in the season. I'm fine. And

7:59

A lot of the clothes. You're going to close in

8:01

the I told them what I liked and then

8:03

there's a lot of the clothes diary were and

8:05

I'm like oh I get it. So you wanted

8:08

me to be this character You are this character

8:10

to be kind of like me nuts that I'm

8:12

gonna do with any other way. Really.

8:14

but it is gonna interesting. What?

8:17

I'm not going to do is put on

8:19

above week like Austin but where did for do

8:21

nine? even see dunes by? Saw the posters.

8:24

For. Dune our sir like wow, that's

8:26

a. That's. A Lot. I mean

8:28

I add you. Have. You. I'm.

8:31

Transcend. That by here he was good. That.

8:34

He may be aware but we get there were going

8:36

put above whigham me for Jerry Wexler and then they

8:38

opted against in the disease, my hair and my facial

8:40

hair. Sunday.

8:42

Man. Some. Day I'll

8:44

play a monster. Like. A real one.

8:46

Not just the. Judges. A

8:48

human months or. So yeah

8:50

so after we did wardrobe own to Prophecy we're

8:53

looking at glasses near the water glasses a look

8:55

like my glass of my on where my glasses

8:57

and I think we found a pair that I

8:59

had a good drive. an R V. For.

9:01

A while to be driving are V. They.

9:03

Want to see if I could handle as

9:06

I drove one in Marin to says I

9:08

whipped around a parking lot in his giant

9:10

Winnebago little bit. That was exciting than we

9:12

had of read through of the first script

9:14

that went well but tell you Ma'am. I'll.

9:18

Tell you the highlight of the year.

9:21

of the day yesterday really is

9:23

at a few the cast members.

9:26

Aren't. Here yet. And

9:28

dumb one. The guys playing

9:30

the kids disguise peter. They.

9:33

Were going to use an easy Dc

9:35

song in in the show in their

9:38

first episode and then apparently they can't

9:40

get the Cdc songs. I said, why

9:42

no other ones, right? So I started

9:44

young, plain old. a Cdc for the

9:46

show runner and everything. And for the

9:48

kids. This kid out his cabinet early

9:51

twenties. Nice. Kiddies plane the

9:53

kids and shows Guy Peter. And

9:55

it was like one or three cdc

9:58

songs are there. Certain. Playing

10:00

some old Bon Scott, A Cdc.

10:03

And. He's like oh My. God. And Mike. Yeah.

10:05

He's. Like this is great and Micah? yeah it

10:07

is so I never heard of before. My What?

10:10

He's like our our know some mora. Like.

10:13

Hard Rock Stuff. You. Know I

10:15

just want him made my characters like listening to

10:17

the stuff I'm like. like the old stuff. He's.

10:20

Like yeah, And. I'm like

10:22

okay. A or what he what how

10:24

you how hard you want to go you have

10:27

a Black Sabbath opponents a Black Sabbath He's ever

10:29

heard that before either in is like it was

10:31

okay I didn't think he he he would He

10:33

loved it. But. Dude. I.

10:37

Played him Led Zeppelin. I

10:40

played him Led Zeppelin one.

10:43

And. A couple

10:46

of shoes off that I'm just trying to

10:48

remember which tunes I play them exactly. As

10:52

a I play damn good times, bad

10:54

times. From. Zeppelin one.

10:56

And. He. Was just like

10:58

what. Am I? You'd never heard

11:01

this? He's like, I've never heard it. And

11:03

I'm like oh My. God. And.

11:06

Then I'd play them from Zeppelin too. I played what

11:08

is and what should never be like there's a little

11:10

even. The. Change the they'd seen

11:12

says rhythm and stuff it's know there's

11:15

no straight through on. My guess is

11:17

like this is this is great and

11:19

like you've never heard this. Is.

11:21

Like nope. And. Say

11:24

was like oh my god and then

11:26

I played him or. As

11:28

he was going to California. right?

11:32

I. Can't believe this! He.

11:35

Says in that he texted you. Eddie's

11:37

like babe, I'm gonna leave you when

11:39

the best songs I've ever heard. How

11:41

many opportunities will? maybe? I guess if

11:43

you have kids which I don't but

11:45

it's it's the excitement. That.

11:48

I got. From. Turning a

11:50

a guy on I guess he the

11:52

kiddies is a guy. Been his early

11:55

twenty's bus from turning a kid on

11:57

to zap. went from watching somebody listened

11:59

is. When for the first that like

12:01

the this guy either he took my phone

12:04

is years old into his head. You'll listen

12:06

to go into California think. And

12:08

like it was right, he could

12:10

unlock himself and a my sister

12:13

suck. Imagine it. Would. Have

12:15

this magic! And what a healthy

12:17

thing. To. Turn someone on

12:19

to denoting not all turning on people

12:21

the things as a great story bus

12:23

to be there to watch him listen.

12:25

They Cdc songs are the first Time

12:28

and Led Zeppelin and then just watches

12:30

mine get blown. Law

12:32

don't know what I was freaking out about. Because.

12:36

I get dizzy sings in his It's weird when

12:38

I get around a bunch of new people. I

12:40

guess this is just who I am. Like I

12:42

get I get kind of big, I get a

12:44

young cracking jokes and you know when I was

12:46

younger than that in always served me well. but

12:48

I guess I'm doing okay now. But.

12:51

I guess what I'm trying to tell you people after

12:53

I. Dried

12:55

you through my anxiety. Is

12:57

that the you know? Once I got on the

13:00

plane, once I got packed and once I realized

13:02

and gone home and a few days and and

13:04

go home pretty often. I'll. Be

13:06

alright. Ill be or I'm gonna miss the

13:08

comedy. Have to figure out how away to do that.

13:11

I think this rose gonna be fine. he

13:14

of our or be good I think. And.

13:17

As I to have a good time at. Definitely

13:20

got oh and laughing and always fun. Find.

13:22

Get the guy I'm working with. Laugh and. That.

13:25

We have a good time man fan!

13:27

When. Hours were Marlon Wayans. Oh.

13:30

My. God. On

13:32

a River on that that a

13:35

recent movie. Respect.

13:37

Holy Shit. We.

13:39

Laughed our asses off. Maybe.

13:42

That will happen. That. Sounds good, doesn't

13:44

it? just laugh your ass off? So

13:46

look, Steph. Told that.

13:49

Is here. And. she's

13:52

really unlike anybody that i've ever

13:54

had on this show there's another

13:56

comedian i've been watching wally that

13:58

is just killing me Blair

14:01

Sochie. She's so

14:03

fucking funny. You know, I'm

14:05

old and I

14:07

don't see as much of the young guns as I used

14:09

to and then all of a sudden

14:11

they see somebody around you know who's been doing

14:14

it for a while and I'm like where

14:16

the fuck is this person been? How come I

14:18

don't know this person? But stuff

14:20

is definitely one of those people and

14:22

we talked about like because she

14:24

used to see me around and I think she assumed I

14:27

didn't I didn't like her but I

14:29

just hadn't seen her and she's so fucking

14:31

good. So look you know what

14:33

I'll be honest with you I

14:36

could not get through

14:38

the Tom Brady roast.

14:41

Is that his name? For

14:43

a couple reasons. I don't know

14:45

man. I just remember roast when

14:47

I was a kid. I remember the roast I was

14:49

on which was a terrible time

14:51

but I don't I didn't know what that guy does.

14:53

I don't care about sports so I didn't want to

14:55

see football players trying to roast and

14:58

just to do comedy and arena it's like

15:00

why is this a thing? Arenas

15:02

don't make it better. You know

15:04

I don't think they make it better on TV or

15:07

you know live. It

15:09

just feels hollow and it's a little weird

15:12

but yeah I couldn't get through it. I don't know why

15:14

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15:16

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15:19

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15:23

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15:26

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my god. I don't know her at all What's gonna happen?

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No, I know this is definitely gonna be the longest that

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we've ever spoken their entire life I'd well, you know

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oddly I had a tell over here last week who

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did the podcast, you know, maybe in 2010 or something

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and He

18:48

did it again. And those were the the longest

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I've known him for 35 years and I consider

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him a friend Yeah, but it tells always on

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the move, you know, you see him You're like,

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what's up, Dave? Oh and then he's gone. You're

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not a lot of talking He might be I

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think the funniest comedian of our time

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right now Well of our time

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now in the last 20 years last my years

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I've never I've never laughed harder at

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a stand-up in my life because he's like,

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you know He he's like a physicist with

19:15

jokes like he's always like, you know, the

19:17

boards you see behind guys who do numbers

19:19

I feel like that's what Dave does every

19:21

day with jokes. He's just moving things around

19:23

He's got he works on him like they're

19:25

mathically like even in conversation Like it's hard to

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find a comedian that's that quick and I'm like, yeah,

19:29

yeah, he's it's so funny Did you

19:32

see one of your favorites? No,

19:34

to be honest, I didn't watch that much stand-up growing

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up No, I started watching it more when I started

19:38

doing it really if you know You know

19:40

what I was listening to because you know I watched some

19:42

of your stuff and I see at the store all the

19:44

time and for some reason, you know I was like, you

19:46

know, I'm gonna listen to some Belle Barth, you know who

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Belle Barth is She was

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a comic in like the 50s and

19:53

60s and she was just this dirty

19:55

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19:57

like way before anybody else. She was

19:59

just She got arrested

20:01

for being filthy. She got busted

20:03

by, because two school

20:06

teachers accused her of

20:08

ruining their brains. That's so funny. Isn't

20:10

that wild? I gotta look this woman up. This

20:12

sounds like something I'd love. No, you gotta watch it,

20:15

because she's one of those people that's still like,

20:17

of that era where they're still mixing Yiddish in

20:19

with their filthy jokes. Okay. But

20:21

are you Jewish or you're not? I'm not, no, I

20:23

really give off a Jew vibe. I know, now I

20:26

don't know what to do. See you

20:28

later, good night, thanks off now. I

20:30

was really counting on the Jew thing. I know.

20:32

The Jew bonding. I'm Bulgarian, I really look Jewish.

20:34

I had the last name, I think it's kinda

20:36

Jewish. Steph Talv, yeah. That's the whole, is that

20:39

the whole last name, or is there more? No,

20:41

actually my Ditto, my grandpa, when

20:43

he came from Bulgaria to Canada, he gave

20:45

the wrong last name. Yeah. He couldn't give

20:47

it. You gave the wrong one? Yeah, so

20:49

he did the T-O-L-E-F-F. Oh, okay. And then

20:51

he mumbled it, and they're like, Told up, so yeah, so no, he's like a made up

20:53

last name, that's not even real. So it's E-F-F.

20:56

So your grandfather was

20:58

Bulgarian, spoke Bulgarian? Full Bulgarian, both

21:00

of my grandparents were arranged marriage

21:02

from Bulgaria. Why? That's what

21:05

happened. It still happened. I mean, it's

21:07

happened recently, like the last 30 years, 40 years, whatever.

21:09

Yeah, they still do it in some places. Honestly, before

21:11

I met my boyfriend, I almost wanted to do that.

21:14

Make it easier? Oh, make it easier. Sell me off for

21:16

some big Jacked Goats in Bulgaria. I think I'd be a good trade.

21:19

I think I'd piss off the Bulgarian man that caught me.

21:21

Really, I get this piece of shit, and I'm just like,

21:23

oh, my pussy's all done. My pussy's so big, he's like,

21:25

get back on the farm, milk some goats. It's

21:28

green. Never in public again. Yeah,

21:30

you never see me again. But I think about that,

21:32

like arranged marriages, and when it happens, I mean, because

21:34

you do, you gotta

21:37

get used to everybody. You know what I mean? I'm

21:39

not real optimistic about the love thing, because I'm fucking

21:41

60. Are you? Oh

21:43

shit. Yeah, but because I don't have any kids

21:45

or anything, like I'm suspended at about 25. And

21:48

all these people that I've known for like 30 years, I'm like,

21:51

what do you mean you're 40? Weren't

21:53

we all the same age 10 years ago? The

21:55

fuck happened? You look good though. Do you drink? I'll

21:57

go. Not anymore, not anymore. No drinking, no nothing.

22:00

You're what I think it's the key. Yeah, I think I

22:02

know I think drinking just makes you look like a big

22:04

of dead dicks I think you're like

22:06

shit after watching. I think I'm aging horribly

22:08

cuz my I drink. Yeah. Oh, I stop.

22:11

Yeah. I'm seven I'm

22:13

not a samp. I love a samp. I'm trying not

22:15

to I'm trying to lose some way cuz I got

22:17

something coming up That I don't know if I can talk about

22:19

yet, but I need to um, can you talk about it vaguely? I

22:22

may not be doing a special. Yes. Oh,

22:24

yes. I'm doing special. Yes I'm allowed to

22:26

say who with who you

22:29

can certainly say it's a special. It's a special.

22:31

I'm very excited It's my first one. Yeah, I'm

22:33

jacked up. How long you been doing comedy 21

22:35

years. Holy fuck. I know Yes

22:38

time for a special. It's never special. I've been doing it.

22:40

Yeah, cuz in Canada It's so much harder for us to

22:42

come over here and then with the restart again and it's

22:44

a whole fucking building process Is it? Yes.

22:46

Oh my god, I came here I've been in LA

22:48

almost nine years now when I came over here, no

22:51

one gave a shit Yeah, but I did just for laughs like

22:53

four times. They're like no one gives you about that for anyone

22:55

anyone But I felt like they didn't

22:57

know late-night credit and because I'm dirty I couldn't get a late-night credit

23:00

So did you do like were you like a queen

23:02

of the dirty week the dirty like it didn't I

23:04

have a dirty show? I can't

23:06

remember. I just did that this year for

23:08

the first time for the first year. Yes I've been

23:11

a filthy big as filthy as you are Yes, because

23:13

I feel they don't even let their

23:15

filthy comics climb in Canada. No, they don't

23:17

in Canada I think you overheard me complaining about something

23:19

about Canada Do the name you were like at the sort of

23:22

what's that all about because I did a speech I just for

23:24

last last year Oh, I did that thing the keynote.

23:26

Yeah, the keynote. I did a keynote and I was very

23:29

Very vocal about how there's very few

23:31

Canadians at a Canadian comedy

23:34

festival So I made quite a

23:36

scene I named some names and um, so

23:38

that's good. I when I did my keynote It

23:40

was very serious. I got good laughs here and

23:42

there but I didn't I didn't go for the

23:44

laugh I had statements to make yeah Everyone's

23:49

just like falling asleep. No, I it was mostly

23:51

the Canadian comics came to watch me and yeah It

23:54

wasn't everybody the whole industry wasn't there. Um, I

23:56

think there's some I think it was more geared towards the

23:58

Canadians and me kind The like. You know this.

24:01

Vs and we are three hundred

24:03

former Sanders. Let's. Forty. Five fifty

24:05

Canadians like is. Pretty bizarre but our

24:08

view full. Let's talk about that some Bulgaria

24:10

the news they come to Canada where where

24:12

they come in at around. They know they

24:14

came out east. And the my grandfather came

24:16

later halifax of years from now and

24:18

that is actually a large Bulgarian population

24:20

I think in Toronto. but I Bulgaria

24:22

I like I no were I have

24:24

no sense of of what that means.

24:26

I won't among the artist and sixty

24:29

five I live among the Armenians. Here

24:31

I'm getting I'm getting a bit of

24:33

that education. Lot of sweatsuits I sell,

24:35

lot of follow the the sled suits,

24:37

lot of the lure him a silly

24:39

thing clumsy manicure nine years swipe card

24:41

a lot of white cars very manicured

24:43

of. The lee sin must that was as they what is

24:45

I. Went. But when you see that on a man

24:47

do you think like while it's harder to think like what

24:50

the fuck is as doing way I'm ashamed is etti.

24:52

Swallowing. Repulsed by i never was attracted

24:54

to like vulgarity little metal One of i'm like

24:56

i'm wary. Of Bulgarian look at me like

24:58

assess assess especially with a bigger, a

25:00

little sick of a mustache and a

25:02

simple the or him on. The Highway. There

25:04

were sizes as I don't want to meet with that. I. Wanted. Like

25:07

I might add, white, yeah, white boy

25:09

and have your alley. He lays in

25:11

the greener gene pool the I assume

25:13

it's hair. the I got lucky I'm

25:15

I'm relatively hairless alone, yet as fine.

25:17

you know it's not lose. Yeah, no

25:20

minds the opposite vs. outdoor. Yeah yeah.

25:22

Assessed as a Harrison the thing. Whereas

25:24

it's as long as you know, there

25:26

might even elders as high stakes beard

25:28

and moustache hairs on my nipple. Here

25:30

are the ones they are because enable

25:32

her soon. Oh yeah, they're safe. They

25:35

are really tweezers. Oh my God. every

25:37

woman as the way i use oil already this

25:40

now no no no i know that's how know

25:42

that by i mean i don't pitcher a lot

25:44

of it's you know i mean it's not a

25:46

couple me ah yes mommy's so but v i

25:49

did you parents people here in my dad at

25:51

the imams above your mom's like foreigners to have

25:53

her grandma or mom was like from england or

25:55

something that we are very white via the might

25:58

as well for bulgarian now but the So

26:00

what's Bulgarian food? How's that go? I don't know. You go

26:02

to your grandparents and what do you, what do you, what

26:04

do you cook food? Yeah, I had like a lot of

26:06

like, um, a lot of like eggplant dips and like. Oh,

26:08

okay. So it's sort of like, uh,

26:10

that, that version of like, where the fuck is Bulgaria?

26:13

Honestly, Google it. Uh, years ago, I used to do a joke

26:15

where I looked at Bulgaria and the first thing that would come up, it

26:17

said it's the least visited the country and all of you. Like

26:19

it's just, nobody wants to go there. Bulgaria is

26:21

like, okay, don't come in here. We're disgusting people.

26:24

It's really very nice, but I think it's a more of

26:26

a poor country. Okay. I

26:28

see it. I see it. It's in the

26:30

Balkans. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

26:34

Near Turkey. I think the border is Greece

26:36

on the Black Sea or something, right? Yeah. Yeah.

26:39

It's a, yeah. Romania is on top. Okay.

26:42

And then on the side is Serbia, North Macedonia.

26:44

There we go. Thessaloniki. What

26:46

is that? No, it's, it doesn't border

26:49

Greece. Oh, I don't even know. Oh wait, it does. Cause,

26:51

oh, the Thessaloniki is part of Greece. So Greece

26:53

is kind of like Florida. It kind of goes

26:55

up and around. Okay. All right. Well,

26:58

it's a food that's relatively the same all through that

27:00

area, isn't it? Go cheese, feta cheese, lotta cheese, lotta

27:03

goats, lotta cheese. Yeah. Serbia.

27:06

Lot of Kosovo. That's, I know nothing about

27:08

it. No,

27:10

I, I, I, I should, I feel like as

27:13

somebody who's from here, I should have some sense

27:15

of Bulgaria. Sense of something. I tried learning Bulgarian for

27:17

like a day and I was like, ah, it's too

27:19

much. How was that day? It was a long day.

27:21

It was a little slipbook. I'm like, there's no pictures

27:24

in this book. I don't get it. When did you

27:26

do that? I was very young. My grandma, my mom

27:28

would try to make me and I was like, I

27:30

can't do that. Oh, shit. Yeah, no, I'm not. So,

27:32

all right. So what happens in Canada? So you grow

27:34

up in, not in the Bulgarian community. They moved to

27:36

Toronto? They moved to Toronto. I grew up very, so

27:38

this is bizarre. I used to Highland

27:41

dance my entire life, competitively Highland dance.

27:43

With the kicking? With the kicking and the kilts

27:46

and the bagpipes. My- When did you start

27:48

that? Since I was three years old. So my mother

27:50

dropped out of high school and became a Highland dancing

27:52

teacher because she saw it at a birthday party when

27:54

she was a kid. My grandma got her into it.

27:56

My mom was teaching at 19 years old, her own

27:58

dancing studio, and then- For just Highland dance. Just highland

28:01

dancing, very specific kind of dancing. Was there any sort

28:03

of experimental highland dancing? Like any sort of new

28:06

approaches? No, no, it's so anal, you get

28:08

the exact steps. So I did it from

28:10

three to 18 years old. No one in our

28:12

family is Scottish. I need to make this very clear. I

28:14

look like my dad, I have my dad's body, I should not have been

28:16

to highland dancing. Well, you could pass for Scottish, I bet. Well,

28:19

when you see me on stage with my nine and a

28:21

half feet flopping around up there, it definitely

28:23

should have been plain sport. Yeah.

28:26

Yeah. So what is competitive highland dancing? So every

28:28

weekend, like I would, every single, my mom

28:30

would teach dancing, so after school me and my

28:33

sister would go to classes like three nights a week

28:35

and then every weekend there's a competition, like somewhere in

28:37

Toronto or we drive to like the States like Michigan

28:39

or Pennsylvania. So every single weekend, my whole life I

28:41

remember just getting up at like 5am

28:44

Saturday morning helping with competitions. But is it

28:46

a group of people? Yeah, it's a lot of people.

28:48

It's like, it's a pretty big, it's a very

28:50

small in its own community, but people, everyone

28:52

kind of knows each other. I think Colin Farrell

28:55

used to be a highland dancer. Really? I

28:58

believe that he used to do, there wasn't

29:00

a popular show. There was the Riverdance,

29:02

that was Irish. Oh. Yeah,

29:04

yeah, yeah. So what is the difference? Irish is

29:06

like all turned in and highland is all turned out and

29:08

you use your arms in island dancing and Irish, your arms

29:11

are just down by their side the whole time. And it's

29:13

just the legs going around? A lot of legs, a lot

29:15

of flipping around. So the highland dance is with the... Legs

29:17

in the arms. And the arms are turned out. Dancing over

29:19

a sword. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dancing over a sword.

29:22

Yeah, there's a jig, there's a horn, there's a lot of, there's a tail that's

29:24

hornpipe. There's a lot of, it's a star. Yeah,

29:26

it's very strange. Symbolic, traditional. It's kind of

29:28

very traditional, very Scottish traditional, like in games.

29:32

So you threw rocks around too? I should have.

29:34

I should have thrown the cape. You should have won for the highland

29:37

game. I would have been way better at the highland games than dancing.

29:39

With the log. Oh yeah, that's good. The caper toss, you throw it

29:41

over. I always would watch that and be like, you know my giant

29:43

shoulders would be doing that rather than like

29:45

busting out of my dancing. So

29:48

my moment is an extra month. The kills are expensive too. I

29:50

needed so much more Material because I'm so much larger

29:52

than the other dancers. There's not even dancing. I Don't

29:54

know what to tell you. So Your mom was forcing

29:56

you to do this and you were the biggest kid

29:58

on the line? Beg your family

30:00

Big biggest know as big as the biggest biggest

30:02

back and I did not when I was i

30:05

was good or a very small fee and then

30:07

I hit puberty and everything would down the drain

30:09

but did was happy when like a their solo

30:11

company was a different age groups. These are a

30:13

beginner novice cleanly not always regret events is always

30:15

one person so you are easy individually all the

30:17

the same dance the audience as usual com this

30:19

area you all do the same dance and and

30:22

a judge or three judges will judge you and

30:24

and like during the scores what a fucking nightmare

30:26

and really at first the sets and in the

30:28

first like top three when like that. Trophies of

30:30

the and their swords. Sometimes he

30:32

authority as a serious a lot of money these days

30:34

is a make I wondered about. You know what

30:36

did you make that money? I think

30:39

the usual be a special with it. Ah

30:41

us media so at a brass going on

30:43

here religious he has his sons and who

30:45

I was assessed. Ah, the war A stance

30:47

on the plan A was bizarre but that

30:49

was the whole life with I Dance. Nonstop

30:51

movie. I hated it he at all the

30:54

way hundred pm I like to delay stopped

30:56

like weddings and then I hate it but

30:58

your mom's is forced to the oh yeah.

31:00

Or me. what are your I get. Help of the competition

31:02

so I'd like help Announce sometimes had line

31:04

of the other dancers. Three years so

31:06

she brought you into this to he he and

31:09

knowing that you were the best dancer or yeah

31:11

and he just needed you to health and oh

31:13

yes humiliation closely related and it's also bears have

31:15

herpes I'm I'm had like a really good dancer

31:17

who won all the time and she wanted her

31:19

to be your daughter officer only securities he says

31:22

he loved her voice that says of meat hundred

31:24

percent of but yeah was like I'm not going

31:26

to be or via a never to be harrys

31:28

I'm against in this part of what What is

31:30

the future that one season high when damn you

31:33

become a teacher or judge or know amateur yes

31:35

any. Whenever. We the world and everly of the

31:37

Highland there was sick. Is your mom still and

31:39

oh yeah. I'm. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm So

31:41

this is not easy way to else. She literally wanted me,

31:43

my sister to take. Over dances video was your sister

31:45

do see why our parks and rec internal okay

31:47

so nobody nobody of know we were like get

31:50

us the fuck outta here of now to resist

31:52

the to you. Yeah, and as hell because

31:54

the dance moms of. crazy as i'm seeing

31:56

seem like they're all show moms or crazy

31:58

or not or what it is now though

32:00

crazy. So what do you mean? Bagpipers who

32:03

were perverts. Really? Oh yeah, cuz every dance

32:05

there's a bagpiper on stage live music. You

32:07

got to open your special with this. And

32:09

if you only immediately turn it off, the sound

32:12

of bagpipes, nobody wants to hear that. It's hell.

32:14

I like how their funeral was dead. Yeah, it just

32:16

means someone's dead. Yeah, meat is coming out of a

32:18

casket. So wait, there was a, the bagpipers were known

32:20

perverts? Some

32:26

of them, yeah. Yeah. Well, there's one

32:29

who like, he like fucked a bunch of

32:31

moms. Oh. And like, oh yeah, like a

32:33

home wrecker. Yeah. You know who you are

32:35

if you're listening. Um, let me say a

32:37

full name. Uh, yeah, there's

32:39

a couple places where there's the horror of

32:42

being a man who's like, you fucked a

32:44

bagpiper? Disgusting. But he's just like, you

32:46

know, like, he'd be good at fingering though, because you're

32:48

playing kids. I played for a year, it didn't work.

32:50

I guess if you, if your clit is six, seven

32:52

inches long. Oh yeah, it'd be nice. And some people might,

32:54

I think all that dancing stretches it out. You're just bouncing

32:56

up and down. I think it just takes a toll.

33:00

There was, um, yeah, there was

33:02

a lot of pervy

33:04

dads too. That's where I became like, I think that's

33:06

where I started yelling, because I yelled at men a

33:09

lot on stage. I think I became there at a

33:11

very young age at what we had to change quickly

33:13

outfits in front of like, it just being public. Yeah.

33:15

Like we're at the Highland games, you're beside like an

33:17

arena. You're just taking your clothes off outside and

33:19

I would watch like creepy, like dads, like look, look

33:21

a little too long. Yeah. Oh yeah. And by look

33:23

a little too long, I mean, stand there and gawk.

33:26

And these are women ages, what to what? Like, seven

33:29

to 14, 15. Yeah.

33:31

And that's where you developed your contempt.

33:33

I think I did. An aggressive reaction.

33:35

Yeah. For the second balls I ever

33:37

saw was at a Highland games. Was

33:39

it under a kiln? Oh yeah. And he was

33:42

standing in the bleachers and my friends like, look up. And I was

33:44

so young, I think I was like seven and he's like swinging it

33:46

around and he loved it. We looked

33:48

up and I was like, oh my god. And he's like shaking it.

33:50

Like it was, he was probably your age. Oh

33:52

yeah. Six year old, no, yeah. Six year old pig just

33:54

got off once a eight year old was laughing at his

33:56

junk. Disgusting. Was he

33:58

a regular? He's probably in one

34:01

of the pipe bands. Just getting ready

34:03

to get his horns sucked later. Disgusting.

34:06

So at least you developed a point of view.

34:09

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. From underneath the dick and balls.

34:11

That was a point of view. I

34:13

think that's why I'm so physical on stage

34:15

too, is because of the dancing. But

34:18

I also think because of the type of comedy you do,

34:20

you gotta kind of get in there. Yeah,

34:24

I think it powders it

34:26

a bit. If I'm not yelling about my pussy so much,

34:28

but if I do a huge act with it, it's like,

34:30

oh, it's kind of cute. Right. If

34:33

you just stand still and casually deliver your

34:35

pussy joke. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, people

34:37

are going to be like, what? But if

34:39

you're literally like, rah! Then

34:41

people have to reckon with you. I think they do. It's

34:44

just you break the boundaries, fuck it. Yeah.

34:46

It is funny when I have to go

34:48

up after you or Neil Brendan, because it's

34:50

such a different vibe. And watching the crowd

34:52

readjust at the store especially. I love it.

34:55

There's sometimes like, you know, something

34:57

happened last night on stage and I've

34:59

been doing this for fucking

35:02

all my life. For 40

35:04

fucking years or whatever. 38. Shit. But

35:07

there's still this part of me, like if someone's killing before

35:09

me, there's still a part of me that just wants to,

35:11

I'm going to ruin it. I'm going to go up there.

35:13

I'm not even going to try to kill. I'm going to

35:15

undermine this entire evening. I have this part of me where

35:17

it's sort of like he just killed so I could just

35:19

go up there and just do my best or I could

35:21

be like, well, I don't know what I'm going to do.

35:24

And I did that. And I drove out

35:27

of the comedy store and I'm like, what

35:29

the fuck is wrong? Embarrassed, mad at myself.

35:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's not like I

35:33

tanked on purpose. But I

35:35

think when you get in your head too much, especially

35:37

in that room, it's hard because I hate following fucking

35:39

Bobby. Oh, yeah. Bobby crushes in a way that's

35:41

stupid. Yeah. And then I'm like, God, I

35:43

have to go up there and either match that energy. You can't

35:46

do it. It's hard to do that. Yeah. Like I

35:48

can never do that. I

35:50

chose at some point I realized like, well, you might have

35:52

to eat it for a minute or two just

35:55

to get him to come around. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

35:57

Your vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think also what you're

35:59

at a point. where everyone already knows and loves

36:01

you. Kind of. People

36:03

are excited to see you. About a

36:05

third of the audience. I wouldn't say it's everybody. It's

36:08

more than a third. I've gone up after you. Because I

36:10

still have this thing where people don't know who I am. So they're

36:13

like Steph, and then people are kind of looking around, and I go

36:15

up and I'm like, ugh, my tits or my

36:17

ass are hairy. And they're like, what is happening? And they're

36:19

like, I hate this woman. Like,

36:21

I watch people go from hating me, like kind of

36:24

warming up by the end. It's not fun, though. Yeah.

36:27

But I cross that line. What happens to me is

36:29

like, the distance

36:32

between my stage

36:34

persona and my sadness is

36:37

very small. So

36:39

like, there's a fine line where I'm talking about

36:41

my dad's dementia to where like last night what

36:44

happened is the audience, they just

36:46

heard it as like, this is a sad story. And

36:48

I'm like, those guys are hilarious. You're

36:51

not getting it. Yeah, you're not seeing the right point of

36:53

view. Isn't it humbling, though, to leave? I'm

36:56

like, well, I'm not shit. Yeah.

36:58

Oh, yeah. I'm not fucking shit. Oh, you mean you're

37:00

doing it. At least that's you. I get a smug

37:02

sometimes and I'll be like, I'm killing. Yeah, yeah. This

37:05

is a great week. Oh, yeah. but

37:08

if you do a set in two rooms and you

37:10

have the first one's great, and then you just go get

37:12

humbled by the next one, just fucking terrible. Sometimes

37:15

the main room does that to me. I'm like, I'm

37:17

like killing in the OR. I'm like ripping, just like

37:19

riffing. I'm like, oh, I'm the fucking bad. I'm dancing

37:21

at the main room. I'm like, oh, I'm a dog.

37:23

I'm a dog shit. I'm dog ass. I live in

37:25

no joke. The main room is kind of,

37:27

it can be kind of weird because

37:29

it's, I don't know what it is, but like, you

37:31

know, it's different expectations in there. I'm not sure what

37:34

it is, but sometimes like you get

37:36

out there and it's packed and

37:38

you got to start over at the beginning of every

37:40

joke and earn it every fucking time. What is that?

37:43

I don't really understand it. It's bizarre because it

37:45

makes me like the main room less, even though

37:47

I know it's like where everyone wants to

37:50

be in, but I'm like, I don't know.

37:52

I love the OR. The OR is great. Because

37:54

the main room, sometimes you can actually be like,

37:56

all right, I've got those hundred people over there.

37:58

Yeah. left or the right,

38:01

you're like, nothing's happening. Like, no one's laughing.

38:03

No reaction. Yeah, yeah. Maybe it's too

38:05

bright in there. I don't know what it is. I just, they

38:07

don't come together. The first time, my first set, I remember when

38:09

I met you, I was told, so I

38:11

asked about people at the store, because I was very new

38:13

to the store, and I was like, who? When did you

38:15

get past, right, 2020, recently, right? Yeah, like a year and a half

38:17

ago, almost. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was

38:19

on the first show with you, and I remember I saw, you were

38:21

the first person I saw, and I was like, so excited, and you're

38:24

standing, and you're like,

38:26

hello. And I was like, oh, fuck. And I

38:28

was like, no. I'm like, I'm on the show, I'm on the show

38:30

with you, and you're like, mm-hmm. Oh, come on. And I was

38:32

like, it was my first night, and you're like, and

38:35

then you kind of walked away, and I was like, okay, so Mark

38:37

Marin's not gonna like me. I was like, fuck,

38:39

god damn it. But then after, like, and then I met

38:41

you a couple more times, I was like, okay, no, that

38:43

was, you were just like, probably going to go on

38:45

stage. Exactly, yeah, I was just thinking about me. Yeah,

38:47

yeah, yeah, yeah. But now you're

38:49

so nice, I was so worried. It's

38:55

funny, I've been going there on and off all

38:57

my life, and I have issues with people. Yeah.

39:02

I'm assuming I will, as of right

39:04

now, I think. I don't know, we're all fucking nuts,

39:06

you know what I mean? Everyone's insane, oh, I'm sure

39:08

people hate me. They just keep

39:10

it to themselves. Really? I don't know,

39:12

probably. It gets so catty, you

39:14

know? I said something on

39:16

Instagram Live that became a TikTok that didn't mention

39:19

names, and everybody decided it was one person, and

39:21

now I had to deal with that guy, and

39:23

he threw me under the bus on a podcast,

39:25

and I'm like, I had to call this guy

39:27

on the verge of tears and be like, I

39:30

wasn't talking about you. Oh, God. And now there's

39:32

no, there's no going back. Oh,

39:34

that's. So catty. It's so catty. We're all

39:36

so sensitive, too. No one realizes we're up

39:38

there talking about whatever the fuck, and then. Oh,

39:40

no, we're the worst. I'm so sensitive. Yeah. I

39:43

cry all the time. Yeah, it's the worst, because

39:45

like, of course we're sensitive, and we're socially inept,

39:47

and you know, we've chosen this life where it's

39:49

all on us, and you know, we don't need

39:52

anybody else. And we're just

39:54

a bunch of babies, angry, catty

39:56

babies, jealous, resentful, competitive. I know,

39:58

what is that? It does

40:00

help us, I think, get further by having

40:02

all that. Spite? Oh yeah. Oh

40:05

me too. My whole career is driven by Spite. Mine too.

40:08

Every piece of it is driven by Spite. From my first manager, you know,

40:10

the calls began with me going like, how the fuck did that guy get

40:12

that? What am I doing?

40:15

Everything. Yeah. And

40:17

then that went on for 25 years. It's still going

40:19

on. I still do something. I'm like, really? They

40:21

got that. And then I'm like, I have to calm down.

40:23

I'm not going to be thankful for what I have. But I'm like, oh yeah.

40:26

My Spite started in Toronto, too. The main book was hated me. And I was

40:28

like, oh really? I'm

40:30

shit. Yeah. I'll show you.

40:32

And now I'm like, when I go past the store, I was such a

40:34

catty bitch. I almost named them in my

40:36

big, like thank you post. Oh yeah. The manager's

40:38

like, take the names out. Everyone knows

40:40

who you're talking about. Take the fucking names out. Oh really?

40:43

Oh yeah. Yeah. See,

40:45

that's the thing. Like

40:47

I, like I, I do these interviews and I send

40:49

them to him and then he's like, I'm not putting

40:52

that in there. He's like, he's my conscience. He's like,

40:54

you know, like don't leave yourself vulnerable to that. And

40:56

my entire career, I was talking about this with

40:58

somebody yesterday, that you don't realize sometimes

41:01

for years why you didn't get anything.

41:03

And it's sometimes just because one fucking

41:05

person doesn't like you. Oh yeah.

41:08

And you're fucked. Yep. Depending

41:10

where they are, whether it's a club owner or an executive.

41:12

And then you find that out years after the fact and

41:14

you still hate them. Oh yeah. Oh,

41:17

I still hate both of us in Toronto and I want them to

41:19

fucking know that how much I fucking hate them. But you don't need

41:21

them anymore. Oh God, no, I would never do those fucking clubs. They

41:23

didn't suck my ass. Are you kidding me? That's

41:26

crazy. It is insane how this one person, and it

41:28

could have been anything. Could have been like a party, you

41:30

said something weird or whatever the fuck it is. Exactly. They

41:33

heard you think they said something, you didn't say something about them. Like whatever

41:35

you, yeah. And those are the gatekeepers. Yeah. But

41:38

now there's like, there's not that many gatekeepers. You kind of do

41:40

your own thing. Yeah, there's two. And I think at

41:42

this point now, we can do our own specials. We can do

41:44

our own, it's also the media, it doesn't matter. It's

41:46

kind of nice to see those little Napoleons just going

41:48

to die. You know, they can't, they have no thrust

41:50

anymore. Oh, it's nice. So I get off

41:52

when I see people that told me no, they get fired

41:54

from their job. I have like little parties, little operations. I

41:56

go out, parties, my friends. I have a budget. cannot

42:00

be leaked because I would never get work again in the city. So

42:04

I was like, try to hack up my phone right

42:06

now. Yeah. No, we're naming names in those, in those

42:08

groups. Yeah. Well, yeah, you got to. Right. Yeah. But

42:10

that's right. That's been a liability. I'd like to say I

42:12

named them to the face. I'd like to think that

42:14

I'm very, you know, if someone pisses me off, I'm

42:16

going to say something to them. Yeah. And name that I don't

42:18

give a fuck. Well, you get the like here. Well,

42:22

I feel the same way, but like, but like, who

42:25

can you, who can you really trust? You can't

42:27

trust anybody. Right. So you're going to blast away.

42:30

And you think, you know, you're talking to like, you

42:32

know, a kindred spirit or whatever, and

42:34

then they just go telecasualty to somebody.

42:36

And then it goes right up the

42:39

chain. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I

42:41

was banned from Comedy Central for years

42:43

for a fucking joke for

42:45

a fucking joke. And I even know

42:47

about the extent of it until recently.

42:50

Oh, my. It's fucking nuts. What

42:53

was the joke? Well,

42:57

you remember, I remember the whole

42:59

thing and the only reason I know what happened

43:01

was because this guy who was at Comedy Central

43:03

for years, when it mattered, you know, when Comedy

43:06

Central was like important. Yeah. This guy,

43:08

Kent Alterman, used to run it over there. And

43:10

his boss was this guy back in the day

43:12

named Doug Hertzuk. So here's the here's what happens.

43:14

And it's like, I can't I'm no good at

43:16

roasting because for some reason, when I take a

43:18

shot, it goes in and it stays

43:20

there. Right. So. All

43:23

right. So here's what happens. Comedy Central

43:25

back in the what was it like

43:27

here? Maybe the mid 90s have

43:30

been taken over entirely by Viacom. Viacom

43:32

is MTV. It used to be half

43:34

HBO, half Viacom. And there was, you

43:37

know, so Doug

43:39

Hertzuk and Eileen Katz were

43:42

at MTV. They built MTV into what it was.

43:44

And now they're at Comedy Central. They take over.

43:46

And like that first week, yeah, I was doing

43:48

a show at a comedy club. And for some

43:50

reason, it was like mostly Comedy Central. People were

43:53

there in the audience, like a whole audience of

43:55

just employees of all kinds. A party of some

43:57

kind because of the shift in whatever. So. So

44:00

I get on stage and I say, well, I'm

44:02

really excited that Eileen and Doug came

44:05

over from MTV to Comedy Central because I think

44:07

all television should look like a round-the-clock pie-eating

44:10

contest. That was a joke. That's

44:12

not even bad. No, it's a good joke. It's

44:14

a good joke, but it's actually light. Yeah.

44:16

And apparently, like a week later at the

44:19

first corporate retreat, Doug Herzog was like, no

44:21

Marc Maron on our network. Oh

44:23

my God. For that joke? Bad

44:26

joke. It just really cut him. Wow.

44:28

I was on this day when I see him and he's an

44:30

old fucking man now, and of course he has a podcast of

44:32

some kind. And he's polite, but when I

44:34

see him, I can tell that that's there. It's

44:36

still something. That's fucked. That's

44:39

there. That's wild. It's

44:41

crazy. That's how it happens. You know what I mean? It's

44:43

like Lenny Bruce. Apparently, it wasn't so much about what he

44:45

was saying. It was because he pissed off a judge and

44:47

all the judges were out to get him. That's

44:50

wild. Yeah. Is that wild?

44:52

I have to keep my mouth shut. Maybe I'm

44:55

here teaching me. My problem is I sometimes,

44:57

those conversation parties, I would get a little

44:59

too, have a couple too many wobbly

45:01

pops. I'd be nervous. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

45:03

then I would... And then you'd just start doing it? Well, apparently I

45:05

got a little handsy with one of the executives who doesn't work there

45:08

anymore. I thought he was a gay man.

45:10

Yeah. So in my head, I'm like, I'm being

45:12

funny and cute. And then when my manager was like, I think

45:15

you should leave. And I was like, excuse me? And

45:17

then I was like, I stole a pillow. I thought I was hilarious. And

45:19

then I still have it on my couch right now. And

45:22

then I got home the next morning and I had projected out of

45:24

everywhere. And I had somehow... You had dominated

45:26

everywhere? Oh yeah. And I had to go to

45:28

a dress that was like, really tight neck and long. And I had leaves all in my

45:30

bra. And I was like, how did that happen? What

45:33

the fuck was I doing? The dress was long. How

45:35

the fuck did I get a bunch of... Where are the

45:37

leaves in Los Angeles? Dry leaves. And you woke up in

45:39

the dress? Woke up in the dress. I'm in the leave.

45:42

And barf everywhere. And the photos come out. And, oh, I

45:44

was handsy. I had to calm. I'm really sorry. I didn't

45:46

want to say I thought you were a gay man, but

45:48

I'm like, I'm really sorry. Every photo is

45:50

me rubbing his shoulders or his lower back. I was

45:52

being a pervert. Yeah, yeah. I'm

45:55

getting me too. A predator. Oh, big predator.

45:57

Big predator. But I was like, in my head, I'm like, he's

45:59

gay. Love the oh no, no, I was

46:01

worth it's it? Were buddies. Now the layering that?

46:03

okay yeah, but as I didn't Yeah to have

46:05

enough for between you. Know. Rather

46:08

have at our i would have hammered out or

46:10

another haven't got no god no my manager put

46:12

me in a fucking over. That's ah the first

46:14

that this as others have said that we did

46:16

the or the closest s realizable and I were

46:18

on a cell is the same price as a

46:20

have more as a com essential offseason clusterfuck. Oh

46:23

yeah I bomb so bad I don't Ah stage

46:25

and I went to a dive bar and I

46:27

drank I on and on Alliance alone. Oh yes

46:29

my manager to come. Get me to that.

46:31

I. Was. I was so best. Says I

46:33

thought of the fuck and Cvs. Via. Put all

46:35

your fucking make. Up an app like a fucking first

46:37

The get back to that focusing renounce I saw

46:39

as he's not. Like that all ethical okay

46:42

to select having back on that apparently.

46:44

Abilities edges of my set the crowd. His. I

46:46

moved my dick off to the sexes are loving

46:49

and we're okay. So I I just I get

46:51

way too carried away when I think Obama Niagara

46:53

students to cope but that we are years ago

46:55

his mistake. And then you talk like both ears

46:58

and my promise as if I say shit about

47:00

other people, my brain trying to justify it is

47:02

like I'm just being honest. Yes, me A nice,

47:04

I'm not trying to talk shit I mean but

47:07

I'm being honest. It's a oh he's a talking.

47:09

Shit if your odds of other platform like this. Yes,

47:12

I was. It is the only one hundred and

47:14

eighty nine and bonus young little things and happened

47:16

you know when? Yes because I if I go

47:18

through certain phases. Where. You

47:21

know I think like you know I'm above the

47:23

shit You not only you know like I tried

47:25

to train myself it's like it's done nothing do

47:27

with you. You can get those you can get

47:29

that that does bigger this woman soon. What it

47:32

whenever it's got nothing do with you just mind

47:34

your own lanes. Yeah But then like you know

47:36

is a little and security happens like that sucker.

47:38

Yeah over there for as I always yes it

47:40

is growing and like an Instagram as the one

47:42

thing as you are it's too much. Yeah yeah

47:44

it's a little. Hell are you bureau or going

47:47

to be fine? Yeah yeah so so okay. So

47:49

how do you a break. Free of the

47:51

dance of the day he break free of

47:53

the highland dance. ah i will i

47:55

wanted to be an actress that was the big

47:57

thing as comedic abscess my goal is snl And

48:00

that's... When did that happen? How old were you? I

48:03

think I was in high school. I was grade nine. So you

48:05

were doing that kind of stuff? I was doing plays in high

48:07

school, yeah. You would be a great comedic actress. Yeah, I

48:09

was doing all the comedic plays and shit. I mean, Bill

48:11

Burr's new movie. I mean, I fart and burp in it.

48:14

It's my big, big... In the dad's

48:16

movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I remember. Fart, I burp

48:18

in this. Classic me.

48:20

Yeah, Bill's like, I know how to use her.

48:22

No, literally Bill's like, I wrote you into this

48:24

role. I was like, no kidding. No

48:28

kidding. It seems very easy for

48:30

me to play this. Yeah, yeah. I literally showed

48:32

up. That was actually hilarious. The wardrobe lady called

48:34

me and she's like, Bill said that whatever

48:36

you're wearing right now is probably what you're gonna be

48:38

wearing on set. And I took a photo and she's

48:40

like, yeah, bring that exact outfit. I was like, Jean

48:42

just cut off shorts and like a loose fucking Harley

48:44

Davidson tee. Yeah. Stupid. But

48:47

yeah, I wanted to act and I auditioned for like

48:49

four acting schools in Toronto. Out of high school? Out

48:51

of high school and I didn't get any of them.

48:54

Really? Oh yeah, big nose. And then

48:56

there was one program called the Comedy Writing

48:58

Performance Program. Right, right. Over college, two year

49:00

college program. Yeah. Pretty much a

49:02

clown college. Yeah. And my- Literally a clown

49:04

college? I mean, it's like comedy writing performance. That was it.

49:06

It was like, we had a voice class, an improv class. So I

49:08

got into that. Were there actual clown classes? There was a

49:11

clown class, which is my favorite class. I'm fascinated with that

49:13

shit. Oh, it was the best fucking class I've ever taken. Yeah.

49:16

It was wild. Like what happened? Okay, this is the

49:18

crazy thing. And I'm going into all this clown

49:20

shit. I never believed any of this like, trust your

49:22

instincts type thing. Sure. Whatever. So

49:24

Mike and I wrote his name. I have a hot term

49:26

too. That's probably creepy. I was like, volunteering Mike. He's

49:29

like, okay, Steph, there's other people in the last, please

49:31

get off me. But we

49:33

did this thing where he like would draw, we all said the back

49:35

of the room when we closed our eyes. He's like, I'm going to

49:37

draw an invisible line in the middle of the floor. So

49:40

he put like two shoes on either side. He's like, there's a

49:42

lie on the floor. Don't open your eyes. He's like,

49:44

trust your instincts, walk forward and back. And then when

49:46

you feel like you're on the line, stop. Everybody who

49:49

like gave into the exercise all ended up on the

49:51

line. And it was so, it wasn't like

49:53

straight line. It was on a diagonal. Okay. So

49:55

we opened our eyes and we're like, what the fuck? And he's like, we're like, oh, we're

49:58

on the line. Yeah. So it was just such a weird. way

50:00

of like learning to really trust your gut and

50:02

how you feel inside. So basic was no, like

50:04

there was no real requirements. No. Other

50:07

than just sensing. Just literally, literally sense it. Yeah.

50:09

And he was really, yeah we learned a lot

50:11

in that class. So that's interesting. So is it,

50:13

but somehow or another that puts the wiring in

50:15

that you do, you can trust your instinct? Yeah.

50:19

What other stuff you do in clown class though? I don't know. I

50:21

was, who was he looking at his ass? Yeah. But

50:23

was it quiet? Could you talk? Yeah, you talk. We do

50:25

a lot of exercises where we just kind of walk around and

50:27

just try physical stuff and we try stuff where we just

50:30

pick like a sound or we make different characters of

50:32

things we want to do and then we eventually put

50:34

the noses on and stuff. But there was like, we

50:36

used to get to writing classes with the nose on.

50:38

The noses, I mean, barely fit on mine, but the

50:40

noses on there just dangling off. The noses were

50:43

on. But it was like, it was

50:45

like a two year. At the time I was like not caring about

50:47

the course. But it's so fascinating to me because even

50:49

at 60 when I think like I'm not good enough,

50:51

you know, I should take clown class. If you took

50:53

a clown class, I would pay to watch. I

50:56

swear to God, you walk around the clown. Because

50:58

people would flood that glass.

51:01

It would be so funny watching you just like walk because

51:03

you get like you get into super like

51:05

the other people like an emotion.

51:07

Yeah, you'd go off one emotion.

51:09

Yeah. You just be crying. Yeah.

51:12

Every every every emotion would be crying. But

51:15

physicality would be different. Yeah, it'd be crazy. Oh,

51:17

he's oh, he's crying. Never mind. There's

51:19

still tears. There's still tears. His

51:21

arms overhead. He's still crying. Don't worry.

51:23

He's still sad. Like when you do

51:25

bits, are you conscious of

51:28

physicality in terms of no,

51:30

which is weird. Yeah, I think I have a ever

51:33

since I started doing stand up the second I walk on stage,

51:35

I kind of my mind kind of opens and I just kind

51:37

of I don't because I'm not planning. I'll

51:40

rewatch myself. What the fuck was I doing? Yeah,

51:42

yeah, yeah, yeah, psychotic shit. Yeah, but I was like, I

51:44

don't say I'm not planning like put my arm here or

51:47

walk over there. Yeah, yeah,

51:49

yeah. Yeah, it's very bizarre because like I

51:51

started to get like jealous of like guys

51:53

who are just naturally physically funny in timing

51:55

wise. Yeah, like not not talking. I mean,

51:57

I move around, but you know, dude, do

52:00

like funny things with their body. I'm like, I

52:02

gotta try that. And like in

52:04

the last special I spent months timing out

52:06

physical beats for a bit and I was

52:08

like that's how you do it. No I

52:10

feel like it's really bizarre and sometimes honestly

52:16

there's like times where I wish I wasn't so physical because

52:18

my my back is fucked. Really? Oh

52:20

yeah I have to stretch like crazy

52:22

around stage. Because you you're like I've

52:25

done stylistically I've I've explored some of

52:27

what you do. I've

52:30

done the edge of the lip of the stage

52:32

crouch. Yeah I love this. Where you're in them.

52:34

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Pussy's right in their

52:36

mouth. A lot of I do a lot

52:39

of like foot on the stool. Oh yeah yeah.

52:41

Squat. You do that foot on the monitor

52:43

if there's a monitor. I prefer stool. I

52:45

really be back there and really let the puss out. But

52:47

it's really yeah at the end of a

52:49

set and I'm doing hours in the road and

52:52

I'm sweating. Yeah. And I'm like huge

52:54

pit stains and then jump stings. That's great. That stinks.

52:56

And the meet and greet I stink.

52:58

I'm just like I'm standing there. Putting your stinky arms

53:00

around people. And you do the meet and greet? Oh

53:02

I do the meet and greet. Yeah. I'm a nice

53:04

I don't think I'm at that level and I do

53:06

the meet and greet. I used to

53:08

sweat but it's somehow that went away. If I'm

53:10

sweating it means like you know my body's like

53:12

telling me that I'm you're not doing well. Oh

53:15

yeah it's like flop sweat. Yeah yeah yeah. Like

53:17

last night it was like a

53:19

15 minute set that I probably did 22. I'm

53:21

starting to realize like when am I gonna be scolded for

53:23

that? Do you go over? A little bit. Not

53:26

a lot. Okay. Like I just

53:28

I never regulate that that light

53:30

to the three-minute line. Okay. But

53:32

one person always goes over. Argus?

53:35

No I'm sure he does. I know he does but

53:37

there's somebody else that goes over a lot. Oh yeah?

53:39

Like a lot. Every time I follow him he goes

53:41

over. Like what 25? Yeah. Oh yeah yeah yeah. I

53:43

don't think I'd do that. I think I think I

53:46

top out at maybe 22. I didn't know you went

53:48

over. Yeah I don't think I've never noticed. That's because

53:50

I'm so entertaining. That's what it is. And nobody notices

53:52

but the person following me. Applause after applause after applause.

53:55

No one notices but Neil Brennan. Very

54:00

tight. So tight. Always has new jokes.

54:02

That's what he does. He's

54:05

a joke craftsman. He is a joke

54:07

craftsman. And he stands right up

54:09

there straight. I get jealous of people

54:11

like that. I'm like that's talent. I'm up there just

54:13

literally. I'm a clown. I'm a clown. I'm a jesser.

54:16

I'm like what am I doing? Well, I'm a spewer

54:18

too. Like these guys that sit at home and like

54:20

write jokes I'm like, well, I don't even

54:22

know how to do that. I can't do that. I mean,

54:24

I've been doing this like almost 40 years I'm like, you

54:26

know, what do you mean by that? If they don't happen

54:28

on stage and And then you magically build themselves. It's not

54:30

gonna not gonna happen. Yeah, but that's that's so

54:33

nice We can do that the store and have

54:35

that like okay. I have to do it everywhere

54:37

I'll go get I'll go do a month it

54:39

dynasty typewriter just to talk and then start to

54:41

see if anything happens But you fans look at

54:43

the one come walk. Yeah, they'll put up with

54:45

it But

54:48

it's nice But here's what I realized that I'm

54:50

fighting with now just at the point in my

54:52

career is like I've done like so many specials

54:54

and when I look back at them in terms

54:56

of subject matter I realized like I'm

54:58

just saying the same shit in different ways

55:01

Over and over again, but isn't that

55:04

what everyone's doing? That's what someone says to

55:06

me That's like somebody made an example of a

55:08

musical act where you know I was one day

55:10

you realize that you're just doing the same a

55:12

different version of It's like people

55:14

like that and that's who you are. Well, you're gonna

55:16

think I want to ruin it I want to push them

55:18

away here. I'll help you do some psychophysical shit.

55:20

You come on just being your next special

55:23

Yeah, same physical. Yeah, that'd be good

55:25

bending over. Good flips a lot of

55:27

arms. So wait, when did the So

55:31

you do the the right comedy right in college,

55:33

but did you learn anything in the two-year program?

55:35

I really know I met friends. I met I

55:37

met really good friends I'm still solid friends with

55:39

and I met my sketch partner Allison. I was

55:41

we were in an improv shoot for I know

55:43

her No, no, she's in Canada. Yeah. Yeah, we

55:45

did. Um, yeah We did it in profit shoot

55:47

with four girls called the dumb cunts for

55:50

five years So I did improv and get a dumb contour

55:52

lasted five years. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and then we turned into

55:54

a lady's fashion and it's end up being two of us

55:56

So I've been doing sketch comedy just as a duo with

55:58

her for 15 years So what was, because

56:01

I, now maybe you can tell me if this is

56:03

true or not. I don't know. I've got this theory

56:05

recently because I'm watching, you know, a lot of new

56:07

people are coming around and if they're

56:09

not at the store, I generally don't see them that much.

56:11

Yeah. But there's a lot of new people around. And

56:14

I'm noticing that, and maybe I'm wrong, but I talked

56:16

about this with Jacqueline

56:19

Novak, that there was

56:22

a period there where young women comics would kind

56:24

of do some version, if they wanted to be

56:26

dirty, they would do some version

56:28

of Sarah, really, like Silverman. Yeah, cute and

56:31

dirty. Yeah. But it seems like over the

56:33

last few years that there is some aggressive

56:35

filth coming out of

56:37

the ladies these days. Yeah. And I'm excited

56:39

about it, but I started to realize it's

56:41

like, because guys can't really pull it off

56:43

anymore without getting some sort of

56:45

flack. Yeah. But when women are just balls

56:48

to the wall filthy, people are like, holy

56:50

fuck. I mean, they may not like

56:52

it, but there's a freedom to it. There's a

56:54

freedom to it. I think women are finally, I don't

56:57

know, being themselves. Yeah. Like I'm not trying

56:59

to be dirty. Yeah. I'm not thinking I'm

57:01

not going to talk with pussy. I'm already

57:03

thinking about gross shit. I'm a

57:05

fucking pervert. I've been in a pervert for a long time. I'm

57:07

a horn dog. All I think about is sex. I tried to fuck my

57:09

boyfriend this morning before I left out. I'm like, get up. I

57:11

had the new mirror. Fuck guys. Let me suck your dick.

57:13

Like I'm disgusting. So I'm like, I'm trying

57:16

to let you know he was still sleeping. I

57:18

was like, what is the assault? I'm getting me

57:20

to my boyfriend in my own bed. This

57:23

is crazy. Yeah. But I think women are finally

57:25

realizing that we're allowed to fucking talk like we

57:27

actually talk. I hate when people are like, every

57:30

female, oh, another woman talking about sex.

57:32

Yeah. We all fucking talk about sex.

57:34

I hate that. But just being judged on that

57:37

standard, dudes have been talking about

57:39

sex forever. And then for a long time, I was like, oh,

57:41

what if she's going to talk about her period? And now you

57:43

talk about sex and you're still getting shit. It doesn't matter

57:45

what the fucking woman says in line. It's going to

57:47

be that. Same fucking thing. Yeah. It's so fucking annoying.

57:49

But I'm like, yeah, women, we are very sexual beings.

57:52

Yeah. Be more sexual than men. So of course we're going to

57:54

fucking talk about this. Yeah. It's what we're thinking about.

57:56

It's what we're all doing. It's like, it's bizarre when people get so

57:58

mad at it. I get so pissed. Well, I

58:00

think that there's just a type of man

58:03

and a type of woman, you know trained by

58:05

that type of man who don't Don't

58:09

accept women talking like that or behaving like that So

58:11

I have this new joke where I ask people

58:14

if they fart for their husbands Yeah, it's such a

58:16

fucking rare thing that people do and I every show

58:18

there's at least one woman This

58:20

just happened in fucking Rochester last weekend and I was

58:22

like too far for husband He goes

58:24

he gets fucking pissed and then she

58:26

got kind of upset. He's no, I don't and he's like I can't

58:28

do it every time I do you get so fucking mad at me

58:30

And then like I could tell like they got

58:32

very tense both of them was like, oh fuck you What'd

58:35

you do? Like what'd you do? And there's a couple in

58:37

Florida where the husband was like, I don't letter and I

58:39

was like Jesus Christ

58:42

Like crazy. This is such a

58:44

stupid thing Thing but it's like

58:46

it's such a weird thing that men don't let

58:48

women fart. What are we talking about here? Yeah, so I'm

58:50

gonna see that one was gonna talk about like sex stuff.

58:52

They'll be like my word Yeah, this isn't my

58:54

lady. Like I my boyfriend is very he came

58:56

from He comic no, he's an actor comedic actor

58:58

Yeah, very funny, but he came from a family

59:00

of nine born-again Christians no farting no farting I

59:02

was my mom this weekend was like I never

59:04

once farted from my husband. I was like, excuse

59:06

me Oh, you had that conversation? Oh, yeah, I'm

59:08

like I felt I'm sick. Really? I'm like, oh,

59:11

yeah And then Jeff was my full name Jeff.

59:13

It's like he's a guy. I don't love it.

59:15

I'm like, you don't love it This morning. He's

59:17

like you farting again. I'm like, I will fart

59:19

in your mouth if I want to let me

59:21

fucking part I'm like, I'm just not used to this

59:23

like my whole family farted my whole life. I'm not

59:25

used to this like weird It's bizarre. Do you do

59:27

your girlfriend fart in front of you? They have

59:29

okay You know, I but I don't have any

59:31

problem with it But it seems like sometimes the

59:33

women I've been with, you know They one

59:36

of them farted a lot and one of

59:38

them didn't draw attention. There's a difference between farting and going

59:40

like a I

59:43

mean I am doing that mostly because I fart so much that I

59:45

have to make it seem like it's funny Well, that's the problem. It's

59:47

like, you know, I fart too and Everyone

59:49

farts, but just I don't know why if you're a

59:52

gassy person you can't be in a relationship like that

59:54

I remember somebody did a joke who the fuck was

59:56

it? There was some guy who did a joke or

59:58

he would have to go outside

1:00:00

side. It's crazy. Yeah.

1:00:03

Yeah. It's a human thing. A

1:00:05

lot of these women do. They go in the bathroom, they put the

1:00:07

sink on, they fart in a hand towel. It's insane what people are

1:00:09

doing to avoid this. Yeah. And

1:00:11

because men just get him, I don't know. It's

1:00:13

a global problem. I think it's a

1:00:15

global problem. Maybe he just

1:00:17

has to be raised in a Bulgarian family where nobody gives

1:00:19

a shit. My dad was always like, oh, he's got one

1:00:21

on reserve. And he would fart. Literally, if we call my

1:00:23

dad right now, I swear to God he'd fart. It's

1:00:26

almost too much. Maybe we are

1:00:28

medically, something's wrong with us now. I go

1:00:30

through farty periods and I have

1:00:32

to figure out why. Right now, I'm

1:00:34

in a non-farty period. I'm very happy about

1:00:36

it. No fart at all. No, not fart.

1:00:39

But there are times where I

1:00:41

think it was because I was doing these nicotine lozenges and

1:00:44

now I'm just doing the pouches. But the lozenges, there's something

1:00:46

about what they're made with that just made me gassy as

1:00:48

fuck. And there's just nothing like... I

1:00:52

don't mind farting, but if it's going to

1:00:54

be bad... Yeah. I don't like... I'm

1:00:56

not like I'm trying to make that fart. And then he

1:00:58

kind of both got a sit in it and something has

1:01:00

to be said and you have to break the ice. He

1:01:04

goes so mad at me last night because I kept farting and

1:01:07

then he's like, that's it. You have one minute to get them

1:01:09

all out. I'm like, one minute. You can't time-constraint my ass. I

1:01:12

can't just do this in a minute. This is crazy.

1:01:14

And he started pushing my stomach. I'm like, this is

1:01:16

not how they work. Also, we've been traveling with the

1:01:18

airport food. That's the problem, the traveling, the airplane. I

1:01:20

can't fart. Perpetase gives me gas. I didn't make that

1:01:23

up, but I don't know. You don't fart on the

1:01:25

plane. That's my favorite part to see how quickly it'll be

1:01:27

sucked into the HVAC. And who are

1:01:30

they going to blame? I always think they're

1:01:32

not going to. They're not going to blame you. I think I look

1:01:34

like a farter. So people

1:01:36

know it's me. There's no way. Everyone is like,

1:01:38

it's her. It's 14D. I can

1:01:40

see her fucking mustache from here. That's

1:01:42

the guy in first class. 14D. It's

1:01:45

all the way back up to the plane. I

1:01:48

actually got on a fucking plane the other day and I saw Justin

1:01:50

on it and he smug, walks up

1:01:52

into first class. He owns a fucking

1:01:54

plane. He pieces shit. I'm jealous. He

1:01:58

does that when he walks anywhere. It's

1:02:00

just him. You know, I remember when he told me he's like

1:02:03

I'm never flying coach again Well, I mean here's

1:02:05

what I always get mad every time I see somebody

1:02:07

like more famous than me on the plane I'm

1:02:09

like if this goes down. Yeah, no one's you're

1:02:11

gonna get they're gonna get the headline Yeah, no,

1:02:13

it's every time I always best selling the so once

1:02:15

on it Ron functions on a plane I'm like, I'm

1:02:17

fucked. I think you and Ron would share the bill In

1:02:24

news today comics Young comics that

1:02:26

no one really knew no people

1:02:28

know wrong Well,

1:02:30

I do that. I always feel that way when

1:02:32

you're flying back from festivals, especially big festival It's

1:02:34

like part of me's like this point is not

1:02:37

going down. There's too many of us on here

1:02:39

There's a lot of famous people or you know,

1:02:41

not so famous people you first class you can

1:02:43

make your first class. I do now Yeah, that

1:02:45

is something you know, I don't spend money. I

1:02:47

say I hold on to money like a comic

1:02:49

who's making you know Wondering if you can pay

1:02:51

rent. It's just a burnt mindset. Yeah, I don't

1:02:53

really spend money that much So

1:02:56

but there are things I know I can do without freaking

1:02:58

out what one is eat anywhere And

1:03:00

the other is fly first class usually but sometimes

1:03:02

it's like so expensive in that part of my

1:03:04

brain sort of like what the fuck Am I

1:03:06

getting it's it's all right. Oh, yeah business. I'll

1:03:08

do business. Yeah, I'm not doing 1200. I'm up there

1:03:10

This guy beside me and the people are in first

1:03:12

class these days. Yeah slobs I'm

1:03:15

said beside a guy who had one tooth. It was the other

1:03:17

ones hanging off Yeah, and I was like and he had like

1:03:20

prison tattoos. Oh, yeah, he kept

1:03:22

coughing not covering smells Yeah, a weird smell. This

1:03:24

isn't first. Oh, yeah, right there first or business

1:03:26

big dirty boots and business No first I get

1:03:29

bumped up sometimes. Well, something bumps. Yeah, the bumps.

1:03:31

Yeah, I remember the bumps You know, do I

1:03:33

have the points? Can I get the upgrade waiting

1:03:35

at the gate? Yeah Yeah,

1:03:38

then you can't get your bag on cuz you fucking

1:03:41

rolled the dice and then you got to check it

1:03:45

I'm still selling merch. Do you know embarrassing? It's a lug

1:03:47

my merch round I can't I used to I've tried so

1:03:49

many things with the merch before I like especially if you're

1:03:51

gonna sell t-shirts Cuz then you gotta have all the

1:03:53

sizes. Oh, so then like what the fuck you gonna do? And you

1:03:55

can't how much you're gonna really make because you don't want to yeah,

1:03:58

and then there's it then there was the idea shipping them ahead.

1:04:00

I'm not on a bus, I'm not the fucking road manager. You know

1:04:02

what I

1:04:05

mean? And it's just like meeting

1:04:07

the fucking boxes at the hotel. No, it's

1:04:10

embarrassing. It is. It is a little embarrassing.

1:04:12

It is. I'm just plugging those stuff in.

1:04:15

I'll give you a merch tip. Posters.

1:04:20

If you're going to go somewhere and you have fans,

1:04:23

and I imagine some of them are creative, just

1:04:25

put Word out on whatever, on the podcast or whatever, and

1:04:27

just be like, if anyone wants to design a poster who

1:04:30

lives in Michigan or whatever, send me the

1:04:32

artwork. I'll pay you for the artwork. And then you just either

1:04:34

they'll run them off or you run them off. People just want

1:04:36

to leave with something. So you know, you

1:04:38

paint a buck, buck 50 a poster, you sell them for

1:04:40

20, you sign them in the meeting greet. Oh, I love

1:04:42

that. And it costs nothing. And it's just a stack of

1:04:45

paper. Yeah, yeah, I need that. Right? I'm

1:04:47

lugging hats, I'm lugging beanies, I'm lugging...

1:04:49

Beanies. Oh, I think I want to

1:04:51

teach you sweaters, hoodies. Come on. I said hoodies.

1:04:53

I got hoodies. This is crazy. And

1:04:56

you bring it all with you on the plane? Yeah,

1:04:58

I do a checked bag. But how many...

1:05:00

How many are in my camera? So I have my

1:05:02

giant fucking camera on my backpack, and then I have

1:05:04

my merch all set. What's the camera for? It's film

1:05:06

clips. For the TikTok? Yes. Even

1:05:09

though I'm shadowbanned on TikTok right now, because TikTok

1:05:11

hates my big fat pussy. I'm not allowed to

1:05:13

say anything on there. It's crazy. Are you

1:05:16

successful on that thing? I was. And now

1:05:18

I've been shadowbanned for like three months now. So nothing I...

1:05:20

You can't... You don't have a hookup? I

1:05:23

got no hookup at TikTok. Oh. I got

1:05:25

nothing. Are you doing your own TikToks? Yeah.

1:05:27

Do it all. Really? I do

1:05:29

everything, yeah. So you're of that generation? I

1:05:31

guess so. That's another thing about the age

1:05:34

of... I can't... You know, there's

1:05:36

some part of me that's always sort of

1:05:38

desperate in thinking that like, you know, I

1:05:40

need to be bigger. But it's

1:05:42

over. It's okay. I've hit

1:05:44

my ceiling. It's okay. I'm in a

1:05:47

good place. Yeah. But

1:05:49

when TikTok happens, I'm like, do I got to get on there?

1:05:51

And then I decide, you know, I got to get on there.

1:05:53

And then I... I got a guy.

1:05:55

I'm like, what's he... Okay, let me have that guy. Well,

1:05:57

you're also... You're not even filming this. So this... This would be a

1:05:59

TikTok. This would be a clip from this. Yeah,

1:06:01

that could, that's not a bad idea. Not to do,

1:06:03

since I don't do a video podcast to have actually

1:06:06

bits and pieces of it. But what am I gunning

1:06:08

for? I don't need TikTok. Also,

1:06:10

TikTok is not good for sales, for ticket sales.

1:06:12

So there's literally, I don't know what you would

1:06:14

want TikTok for. It's not? No, I make,

1:06:16

I get, I'd say every

1:06:19

weekend I maybe have 5% of

1:06:21

my sales from TikTok. All Instagram. Instagram.

1:06:23

All Instagram. I seem to have crapped out

1:06:25

on Instagram. Like I was doing these like

1:06:27

lengthy IG lives all through COVID and I

1:06:29

was getting like 20, 30,000 hits. Oh

1:06:32

shit. And I kind of like stopped doing them.

1:06:35

But like I did a live like last week and

1:06:37

I hadn't done one in like a month and it

1:06:39

got like 2000, I'm like, I'm out. Yeah, you're posting

1:06:41

reels, are you in the reels? Well, I

1:06:43

mean, they all become reels now, don't they? Okay. I

1:06:46

think. No, not your lives. No, well, yeah,

1:06:48

so I got to do little reels. How long do

1:06:50

you, how long am I in the reels? Minute, minute 30. You

1:06:52

want a sweet spot between 30 and 45 seconds. You

1:06:55

do stand up? Yeah, I do crowd work clips and

1:06:57

I do sketch. So I post that shit.

1:07:00

And you think that sells tickets? Yeah,

1:07:02

I literally, I've been posting this too with gym videos with

1:07:04

my boyfriend. It's so stupid. I was like, I'm going to

1:07:06

spot you and then I literally just put my pussy in

1:07:08

his eyes and people were like, ehh. So two of our

1:07:10

videos on fire on the last two weeks. I'm glad you

1:07:12

know your fans. Oh, I know my fans. Yeah. My

1:07:15

fans are all right now sweating, eating a foot

1:07:17

long sub with no pants on. I

1:07:20

know my fans. Cause I'd be doing

1:07:22

that either. Oh my God. I am my fan.

1:07:24

Yeah. But the problem is

1:07:26

I'm a crazy. I'm so anal with my social media.

1:07:29

This morning I woke up and I wrote down this week's

1:07:32

posting schedule. So I set

1:07:34

my alarm. Good job. Oh yeah, I set my alarm every

1:07:36

morning for my time to post. When's the best time to

1:07:38

post? 9am Pacific, Monday, Wednesday, Friday. That's it?

1:07:41

That's what I think. That's for my, especially for mine. Monday,

1:07:43

Wednesday, Friday, 9am Pacific. Especially, yeah. Cause

1:07:45

9am good for you here cause it's noon in

1:07:47

East Coast. Yeah, so that's all right. Lunch time

1:07:49

there, good time for people waking up looking at

1:07:51

their phones. And you just shoot reels. Yeah,

1:07:53

do reels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what does that

1:07:56

mean? So when you

1:07:58

put the Instagram on, It gives

1:08:00

you a choice of live. It's once. You're

1:08:03

really acting your age right now. So you open

1:08:06

Instagram, the app, and then you click

1:08:08

on the, what the fuck is this?

1:08:11

Real. Yeah, you click on the

1:08:13

real. But you're not filming your sets at the store.

1:08:15

I never see you film. No, I don't. A

1:08:17

lot of you guys don't. I

1:08:19

film every set I do in there. Just to have it. Just

1:08:22

to see what happens. Because I do crowd stuff, so I usually

1:08:24

have at least one or two crowd interactions

1:08:26

from every show. And

1:08:28

you put them up. Yeah, edit that, put it in

1:08:31

the captions thing, get the captions on there, then you

1:08:33

put it back in Instagram. Where do

1:08:35

you put the captions on? There's a special caption

1:08:37

app. Oh, it's separate thing? It's

1:08:39

all separate. The captions in the Instagram isn't very

1:08:41

good. It doesn't get the timing properly. And

1:08:44

the way aesthetically it is in my life. But

1:08:48

you're already getting flustered and you still don't

1:08:50

even know what the fucking real is. I'm

1:08:53

telling you this morning, I'm like, I'm out. And now

1:08:55

I'm talking to you. I'm like, I'm back in it.

1:08:57

I'm back in, baby. I literally was out this morning editing

1:08:59

a video of me in the Blue Man group. But that's what I

1:09:01

was doing. I literally

1:09:04

did a sketch with the Blue Man group. It's insane.

1:09:06

In real life? Oh, yeah. No,

1:09:09

I guess you're on Vegas. Yeah. No. Yeah.

1:09:12

Last time I was there. Yeah. And

1:09:15

you just asked them? I'm actually one of my best friends is a

1:09:17

Blue Man. Oh, really? He actually went to the same college as me.

1:09:19

He got kicked out of that college. The two year thing? Yeah. You

1:09:21

got kicked out of college for what? What the Blue Man get kicked out for? He was on

1:09:23

Accutane and he got like fucking crazy. What is Accutane? Like it's like

1:09:26

an Accutane. I've heard of that. So

1:09:28

he was just like sleeping weird hours up too late. Yeah.

1:09:32

And they're like, you're out of here. And then he went and auditioned for the Blue

1:09:34

Man group. That same year he got kicked out. And

1:09:36

he's been there? He's been there for 21 years. Yep.

1:09:39

Wow. I know. It's

1:09:41

crazy. He's like a Blue Man veteran. Yes. Yeah.

1:09:45

He's been everywhere. In Chicago. Is there any downside to the

1:09:47

makeup and the hair? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:51

It's horrible for your skin. Yeah. Yeah.

1:09:54

So you have hair. Okay.

1:09:56

They all wear ball caps. I can't believe that. I

1:09:58

can imagine like weird. Maybe I haven't

1:10:00

seen the show in a while. It

1:10:02

really seems like a bizarre thing they do. But they

1:10:04

might have added a thing. Maybe that's their blue show.

1:10:08

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's their blue show. They

1:10:10

do the family show and then the late night one. Yeah, the blue

1:10:12

man blue balls. So,

1:10:15

okay, so after the sketches, were you

1:10:17

successful with the, what was it, Five

1:10:19

Cunts? No, not really. Improv

1:10:21

this tale, Dumb Cunts and the Lady Sash.

1:10:24

Me and Allison, we did a lot of festivals

1:10:26

and stuff, but at the same time I was

1:10:28

doing stand-ups. So then I started getting more into stand-up. And

1:10:31

from the beginning, what was the angle? Was it always

1:10:33

you? Or did you write jokes in the beginning? Yeah,

1:10:35

I wrote jokes in the beginning and then once Allison

1:10:37

and I started doing a sketch, we were kind of

1:10:39

like a Farley and Spade thing. Like

1:10:41

she was like a straight man. I was like the... The

1:10:44

crazy? She was the crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's also a very funny

1:10:46

straight man, so it worked very well. And then, yeah,

1:10:48

then I realized everyone moved to LA and then I was on

1:10:50

hold for a pilot out here when I was 29. How'd

1:10:56

you get cast? You got the manager in Canada?

1:10:58

No, they were doing this thing where

1:11:00

they were going around. NBC was trying to cast a

1:11:02

new sketch show. I don't know why.

1:11:04

They already had one. They were doing pretty well. And then

1:11:06

I was the only person in Canada to get picked and

1:11:08

I got flown out to LA for a week long. Like

1:11:10

we wrote a whole new sketch show and

1:11:13

then everyone from NBC came and watched it. And I'm

1:11:15

like, I'm moving to LA! And then I moved here

1:11:17

and everybody on that project got fired. And then I

1:11:19

was like, I've made a huge mistake. All

1:11:21

my friends moved to New York, all my comic friends who was

1:11:23

out here. I had like maybe two or three friends out here.

1:11:25

I knew nobody. It's hard to start comedy here again. Yeah, yeah,

1:11:28

yeah. In New York, you kind of just fold in. Yeah. And

1:11:31

there's a lot of, I don't know, by the

1:11:33

time you got here, what year? It

1:11:36

was nine years ago. So you don't really fit

1:11:38

into the alt thing? But I was doing alt. Oh, good. Made

1:11:41

no sense. I couldn't get into the clubs. I

1:11:43

couldn't get any of the fucking clubs. I couldn't get, I'd go to

1:11:45

this fucking Sunday open mic at the Improv. I never got fucking picked

1:11:47

once. Oh, yeah. I sat there for like fucking

1:11:50

three months straight. I wanted to kill myself. I had no car, so

1:11:52

I had to borrow my friend's car or I'd be biking around. Oh,

1:11:54

my God. I was cycling from East Hollywood to

1:11:56

fucking the store. Forgot my ID. They wouldn't let me in. Go back

1:11:58

home. It was a nightmare. I was hell. I had

1:12:00

three jobs, I was under the table because my green card didn't come through.

1:12:03

I've been to some foreign podcast, the tests,

1:12:05

you were syphilis, and my syphilis test came

1:12:07

back irregular or something. I didn't have syphilis, so that's

1:12:09

really an actual test, I tested for a green card.

1:12:12

So my green card got pushed back like four more

1:12:14

months, so I was out here working under the table,

1:12:16

I was babysitting, I was working like catering

1:12:19

jobs. What's up? Wow, and you're

1:12:21

doing all rooms, you're scaring the nerds? Scaring

1:12:23

the nerds, I was doing like, I did the hot tub, I got

1:12:25

out on a lot, good hair wound was my favorite show, I was

1:12:27

doing that all the time. Yeah, people were like,

1:12:29

what is happening right now? I

1:12:32

would do well, because it was so different from everybody else,

1:12:34

it was like psycho. Yeah, yeah, you were

1:12:36

a character. Yeah, they literally were like, this is

1:12:38

character that I'm off stage, and they're like, I

1:12:40

was sucking a dick, and I was like, okay,

1:12:42

she's sick, she's very sick. Well, it's sort of

1:12:44

a, yeah, the

1:12:47

all crowds to me always, and I did a

1:12:49

lot of them, but I never saw myself as

1:12:51

one of them, because I don't really think I'm

1:12:54

a nerd, really, but I'm kind of

1:12:56

like a, you know, I am what I am,

1:12:58

but they always seem more together. Yeah.

1:13:01

You know what I mean? I don't know if

1:13:03

it was just posturing, because they can all be

1:13:05

mentally healthy, but it was always very white, and

1:13:07

very dressed similarly, and they always seem

1:13:09

to be fairly well adjusted, able to

1:13:11

collaborate. Yeah, but I feel like I

1:13:13

like the club crowds way more. Of

1:13:16

course. Because they want to laugh. They're

1:13:18

people, they want to laugh, and they've had probably a bad day,

1:13:20

and they can admit they had a fucking bad day. And

1:13:22

the store's been great, because now that there's no massive

1:13:27

kind of orbit around

1:13:29

one or two comics, everyone kind of

1:13:31

gets even, it's kind of egalitarian. Yeah.

1:13:34

You know what I mean? It's just good comics for

1:13:36

good audiences, and the place has its own reputation. Yes,

1:13:39

and it's not as, like, when I first went out here, I would

1:13:41

never do the store, because I hated it. I hated the door guys

1:13:43

who worked there. They were treating me like shit. They were so rude

1:13:45

to me for no reason. Which ones? They're not

1:13:47

there anymore. No, they're not there. Oh, really? They're

1:13:49

all gone now? Oh, yeah, that whole crew. Really?

1:13:52

Which is the fall of somebody in Austin. Oh, yeah, yeah,

1:13:54

yeah, yeah. Well, there's not all of them, but there's some

1:13:56

that were really negative in me, and

1:13:59

I remember, like, I'd be... go to sit in the back, like you're

1:14:01

fucking sitting here, I'm like, I'm a comedian, like get the fuck out. And

1:14:03

I was like, you could have just said, and I was like leave crying.

1:14:05

Cause I was like, this is where I want to work. I

1:14:07

don't want to work here. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah.

1:14:09

It was bizarre. I hate it. I hate the store.

1:14:11

And then Emily actually, I did a special on the

1:14:14

Booker, the Booker special. During

1:14:16

the COVID. Yeah. On

1:14:18

the epics. No one's seen it. Don't see it. I did a

1:14:20

special on my picture. It was so bad. I also, I was

1:14:22

a blob. I was, it was right for COVID. So I was

1:14:24

like a fat pig and all the camera angles

1:14:26

were underneath. So like, if anyone, literally

1:14:29

I was a melting ham. I would have killed

1:14:31

on my head. It was so bad. Just my eyes showing.

1:14:33

You did an hour special for epics. Half

1:14:35

hour. Oh, so I did an hour. And like,

1:14:37

you know, and you tell people like, yeah,

1:14:39

it's on epics. They'll be like, what is it? No noise. I

1:14:42

don't know if anyone watched it on epics. No one watched it. But

1:14:44

they gave it back to me. Like part of the deal

1:14:46

was I get the hour back. So you can kind of go see

1:14:49

it. You can cut some reels. That's good.

1:14:51

That's good. I'm trying to remember which one that was. You

1:14:53

got a lot of reels to cut from that. So,

1:14:55

but God damn it. It sounds like being in LA was

1:14:58

kind of horrible. You weren't living in your car, but you

1:15:00

didn't have a car. No, I was living on my friend's

1:15:02

couch actually for a few months. I couldn't get my own

1:15:04

apartment because there was no cross border credit check. So I

1:15:06

couldn't, nobody would let me sign a lease. I

1:15:09

had money, but they wouldn't let me. Can you do that with a

1:15:11

green card though? Yes. But you couldn't get

1:15:13

the green card. And I couldn't get a social insurance

1:15:15

number. So security card. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God.

1:15:18

Yeah, I couldn't get it. Were you working in Canada?

1:15:20

Were you an actor? Yeah.

1:15:22

I was a touring headliner in Canada. For

1:15:25

like, yes. Oh

1:15:27

no. Oh no. There's one

1:15:29

of the guys. Yeah, yeah. Baby,

1:15:31

that doesn't work for yuck yucks or absolute comedy.

1:15:33

Both of those clubs, I will never step

1:15:35

foot for the remainder of my life. Well,

1:15:37

I couldn't. I'm probably bad. I'm under shit.

1:15:39

I've talked about them. Yeah. No, so I

1:15:41

was independent. Yeah. Alternative comedian. I don't

1:15:43

know if you know Deb Di Giovanni. Very funny comedian. Yeah, I just

1:15:45

met her last night. She's amazing. She's hilarious. I met

1:15:48

her before, but I had to bring her on last night and she's

1:15:50

standing there. I thought I was bringing up the deal. Oh, she probably

1:15:52

did a showcase last night. Oh my God. Oh,

1:15:54

she killed. She was my idol when

1:15:56

I was growing up. Oh, I would have set the table better

1:15:58

had I not. Damn it. That's probably better

1:16:00

you just do like a unusual. That was that said

1:16:02

I told you about. I kind of tank crapped it

1:16:04

out at the end. Oh fuck. And then like, I

1:16:06

thought it was Neil and then she's standing there and

1:16:08

she goes, you probably don't know me. I'm like, I

1:16:10

don't. Oh fuck. And she goes, I'm Deb Givani. And

1:16:13

I'm like, this next person is

1:16:15

really one of my favorite comedians. And you

1:16:17

know. Oh God. No, she's amazing, she's hilarious.

1:16:19

But she was independent. She told me to

1:16:21

go independent and I did. But yeah, so I

1:16:23

was touring there, came out here and then I

1:16:25

was a piece of shit for what, four or five

1:16:27

years drinking excessively. Oh yeah. Doing

1:16:30

a lot of gross stuff. Yeah. Oh yeah,

1:16:32

yeah, yeah. I was drinking a lot, having a lot of sex

1:16:34

with a lot of gross people. I

1:16:36

was like, oh Tinder in LA. Na na

1:16:38

na na na na na na. Yeah, yeah,

1:16:41

it was bad. Oh, anybody can just, I've

1:16:43

never been on an app. It's their, yeah.

1:16:45

They're just fuck apps, right? Yes.

1:16:48

I think at first, some people do weed off them.

1:16:51

I had, yeah, I had never had a relationship off them but

1:16:53

I was mostly fuck apps. So she's there, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:16:55

Fun? Some. Some

1:16:58

nights I wake up, did I just

1:17:00

do cocaine with a $5 Canadian bill with two

1:17:02

strangers from Australia and they both blocked me on

1:17:04

Instagram the next morning? Yeah, I did. So that

1:17:06

was, that wasn't a good memory. Not

1:17:09

all the memories are great. Sure. Where's

1:17:12

that show? Where'd it just go

1:17:14

through all of the fucking Tinder memory? Oh, I have

1:17:16

a list of all the guys I fucked. It's horrendous.

1:17:18

And what happened during it and how it went? No,

1:17:20

no, no, I just had like a little, like a.

1:17:22

A running list? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, how are your numbers?

1:17:25

Pretty hot. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Here's

1:17:28

the thing, they're high. Not a lot of great ones

1:17:31

on there. A lot of slobs on

1:17:33

there. No, no, no, but now I'm in a

1:17:35

very loving, very loving relationship. Really? He

1:17:37

moved in. Wow. He's

1:17:39

actually, you know, the actor, Christopher

1:17:41

McDonald. Shooter McGavin from

1:17:43

Happy Gilmore. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, it's his nephew.

1:17:46

Oh, okay. I fangirled over a shooter

1:17:48

at the Laugh Factory actually. Yeah. His

1:17:50

nephew was sitting there and then he had me and then

1:17:52

it's everything. And that's it? Yeah, he moved in. Yeah, how

1:17:54

long you been? We've been there for five months. We've moved

1:17:57

very quickly. That is quick. Oh,

1:18:00

yeah, does he know he better he's locked to

1:18:02

the bed right now. It's changed. They're pretty loose

1:18:04

I hope we can't get out of them He

1:18:07

knows he knows no I'm obsessed with him. Oh,

1:18:10

that's healthy. Yeah No

1:18:13

in a good way, it's the best place I've ever had

1:18:15

and he's very like oh, I'm happy for you Congratulations,

1:18:18

but so when you finally get anyways

1:18:22

Who cares about how happy or let's get to the desk get

1:18:24

to the dirt. I don't buy it It's

1:18:27

just a face. I fit is a phase

1:18:29

I can I'll take it. Yeah, no, it's

1:18:31

good It's I'm happy for you now. Can

1:18:33

we move on? Yeah Yeah,

1:18:37

I was waving it Dirty

1:18:40

dirty Everyone

1:18:45

I don't know we like this podcast

1:18:47

everyone, you know, you feel come on

1:18:49

to get very like emotional Do they

1:18:51

sometimes sometimes you know, I there are

1:18:53

moments. I wasn't really anticipating it

1:18:55

from you You feel like you what do you

1:18:57

even cry? No, I Mean,

1:18:59

I'm not with my therapist anymore. I had to fire

1:19:02

her. She kept putting her lipstick on during the

1:19:04

sessions. That was it Rub

1:19:06

me the wrong way But we'll resume.

1:19:08

Oh, yeah, I loved her. Yeah, but

1:19:10

then every time red lips and I was like, what?

1:19:13

How does that work? Did you work through

1:19:15

shit? Yeah, well, I'd be like are you listening anymore?

1:19:17

She was really putting it on for a long time. I'd

1:19:19

be like Anyways, my mother doesn't

1:19:22

love me and then she just like put it

1:19:24

just like slathering red like it

1:19:26

was crazy Do

1:19:29

your mother doesn't love you? No, I don't think so

1:19:34

She started to say it in the last like

1:19:36

four years five years I Might

1:19:39

I I don't know if that might I I

1:19:41

don't know if they were capable of the correct

1:19:44

kind of love my parents I I like I

1:19:46

think they thought they were loving but I think

1:19:48

it was just panic and concern And only child

1:19:50

expectations now I got a little brother who's a

1:19:52

little more He's done so

1:19:55

much work on himself and

1:19:57

you know, and he's kind of leveled off in a

1:19:59

pretty healthy way whereas I was sort of like

1:20:01

I'm not doing any of that really I'm

1:20:04

just gonna I'm just gonna you know hammer it out

1:20:06

I mean I've tried to I've done work on myself

1:20:08

but this kid from a very early age was sort

1:20:10

of like you know I want to I want to

1:20:12

understand I want to be loving I want to and

1:20:14

you know he worked it out okay but for me

1:20:17

like you know I'm still hammering out my problems in

1:20:19

front of unsuspecting audiences aren't

1:20:21

we all I guess

1:20:23

but but so your

1:20:25

mom started saying it recently yeah more recently

1:20:27

yeah she's yeah she's been like yeah do

1:20:30

you confront her about it yeah

1:20:32

she's very hard to talk about

1:20:35

things like this about oh yeah

1:20:37

doesn't like it like discussing feelings

1:20:39

doesn't like yeah yeah

1:20:41

my parents are very

1:20:43

old now but I told this on stage

1:20:45

and I think it's hilarious but again doesn't

1:20:48

land always my mother literally said to me I

1:20:51

was down there cooking Thanksgiving dinner for the

1:20:53

family and I'm just doing food prep and

1:20:55

she's out of nowhere with this tongue goes

1:20:57

you know Mark I don't think I knew

1:20:59

how to love you when you were a

1:21:01

baby I'm like that's it I'm done

1:21:04

I finally figured

1:21:12

yeah I got all these years

1:21:14

yeah well I think my mom

1:21:16

was very jealous of me

1:21:19

all her friends used to say that she could be comedian and

1:21:24

I was like you're not very funny so um

1:21:26

I don't think that's gonna work for you yeah

1:21:28

yeah she's like she's just very wrapped

1:21:30

up in her Highland dancing world yeah that's

1:21:32

all that matters to her right so me

1:21:34

my sister always kind of came second to

1:21:36

that to that oh yeah she's it's not

1:21:38

even like medicine or anything important because she

1:21:40

has her dancers that are doing very well

1:21:42

sure young dancers that she loves and she's

1:21:44

always like posting photos my sisters had a

1:21:47

very cute baby and she's now she's posting

1:21:49

about the baby oh that's good but before

1:21:51

it was all dance stuff was it would have been

1:21:53

a problem if she didn't post

1:21:55

a baby yeah now we would have been

1:21:57

like she's got no soul like what the fuck is going on

1:21:59

is she funny I don't find

1:22:01

her funny. My

1:22:03

sister doesn't really find her funny. I think her

1:22:06

friends do. What about your dad?

1:22:08

Funny? Yeah, in a

1:22:10

dad way. Are they together? Yeah.

1:22:13

Oh wow. What's he do? He's retired

1:22:15

now, but he needs to work for

1:22:17

Toronto Hydro. Hydro. Like the

1:22:19

water, like the power. Oh yeah. Well,

1:22:22

so when you got passed over there, did

1:22:25

everything turn around or change? It

1:22:27

changed with Burr. But Bill Burr

1:22:29

conveniently with my stupid bullshit fucking Instagram reels

1:22:31

I did, he saw one of

1:22:33

my sketches and loved it. He shared it. I'm like, what the

1:22:35

fuck is going on? And then he DM'd me asking me to

1:22:37

open for him. I'm like, am I fucking...

1:22:40

what plan am I on? And I think this is right

1:22:42

after I got passed. I got passed in

1:22:44

December and then this was the March. And then I was like, holy shit.

1:22:47

And then Bill asked me to do a

1:22:49

special on Netflix. Bill Burr's friends said, Bill. Oh yeah, I saw

1:22:51

that, yeah. So that was what changed my whole career. And

1:22:54

it's randomly like overnight almost. Really? And it stuck.

1:22:56

You got the audience. I got the audience and

1:22:58

now all the clubs that wouldn't book me before

1:23:00

are now like... Because you can

1:23:03

sell it? Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah.

1:23:06

Where'd you be in Rochester at...? Coming across in... yeah. Some places,

1:23:08

I mean, I'm not selling it. Oklahoma City won't be back

1:23:10

there. No. That was

1:23:13

a humbling weekend, to tell you that. Went from

1:23:15

selling out Tacoma, being like, hey, I'm the

1:23:17

fucking funniest comic to Tacoma, to Oklahoma

1:23:20

being like, six people on the early show?

1:23:22

I'm gonna kill myself. Like, very bad weekend.

1:23:25

And I was like, hopped up on NyQuil. I'm like, I don't know

1:23:27

if I'm high or I'm just fucking pissed, but I'm like, this sucks.

1:23:29

Oh, yeah. I was bombing so bad

1:23:31

in the Saturday Late Show that I literally stopped and I

1:23:33

just like put my hand on my nose. I was like,

1:23:36

I don't think I've done this bad in like five years. And

1:23:38

this one woman in the back of the sadder went, well,

1:23:40

I like it. And I'm like, oh,

1:23:43

I was like so depressing. I

1:23:45

almost wish she didn't. I always wish she said no one likes it. And I

1:23:47

would have been like, I'm done. Also doing an hour bombing. Yeah. Also

1:23:50

doing an hour act-outs bombing? Yeah. That's

1:23:52

embarrassing. The worst. And you feel it.

1:23:54

You know, sometimes you leave your body

1:23:56

or you just. Oh, yeah. It's

1:24:01

It's a sad moment when the

1:24:03

audience becomes supportive. Oh yeah, yeah,

1:24:06

yeah, yeah, yeah. It's okay. Just

1:24:08

keep going. It was just one of those

1:24:10

weekends where, and this is, okay, if you're fucking listening, and

1:24:12

I don't know why I had to keep drilling this into

1:24:14

people's fucking heads, Google

1:24:16

the fucking headliner. What

1:24:18

is going on? I go from shows to

1:24:20

people that are there to see me to a moment to my, Pat Bertram,

1:24:22

I open up, and I'm like, all right, you're all here to see your

1:24:24

stuff, Tolop, and I see a guy, and I go, who? And

1:24:27

I'm like, oh my fucking God. Because

1:24:29

you're not going to like me. The people who like me really

1:24:31

like me. They get it. They're pros

1:24:33

and pigs. If you don't like dirty comedy or women,

1:24:35

you're at the wrong fucking show. I'm going to ream

1:24:37

you out. I'm going to do crowd work with you,

1:24:39

probably make fun of you through the front row. I

1:24:42

don't know what to tell you. Well, I

1:24:44

had it happen in Portland a few months ago.

1:24:46

A bachelorette party was there. I'm like, what? What

1:24:49

do you... Bachelorette

1:24:52

party? That's

1:24:54

funny. See, that would be a clip. That would be

1:24:56

a real clip. Well, I said to them, I said,

1:24:59

look, you still have time to do

1:25:01

something else with your evening. Yeah, literally. Yeah, I'm

1:25:04

like, I'm not the guy for this. I don't...

1:25:07

I've got people here that know me and want to see me,

1:25:09

and I'm not going to be able to service you what you

1:25:11

want. Because I remember I was

1:25:13

sitting in the back of the room, and I see the girl

1:25:15

who's clearly in charge of bachelorette party, and she's looking at me

1:25:17

like, and I'm like, no. No, no, no, no. And they left.

1:25:20

Good. Yeah. See, that's... You

1:25:23

know what? I'm starting a new thing now where there's this

1:25:25

couple in Milwaukee, and they hated me so badly. The whole

1:25:27

first 10 minutes, the guy's rolling his eyes, and the woman's...

1:25:30

And I stop. I go, okay, you know what? I go, I'm

1:25:32

going to stop. Be here, guys. I go, 10

1:25:34

minutes in. I go, you clearly don't like me? Yeah. Yes,

1:25:37

it's awkward. Now I have to... You're

1:25:39

right in the light. I'm like, you can go. I'm like, this is

1:25:41

free tickets. And they went, yeah. I go, if

1:25:43

you go right now, I'll pay. I'll pay your tab.

1:25:45

I don't give a fuck. I'm like, please. This is

1:25:48

like, you're ruining my night. Yeah. And they're like, no,

1:25:50

no, no. And they stayed there. And I'm like,

1:25:52

who's your favorite comic? I'm like, you're

1:25:54

at the wrong show. You are at the wrong fucking show. They hated

1:25:56

me whole time. You couldn't get rid of them? I couldn't

1:25:58

get rid of them. They wouldn't leave. so mad and

1:26:00

it ruined my whole set. It's the Midwest. They had nothing

1:26:02

else to do. Last

1:26:05

night, there's the other key to

1:26:07

what happened to me last night. Some guy from

1:26:09

New Zealand, some old guy, I'm doing jokes. I'm

1:26:11

kind of riffing around a little

1:26:13

bit looking for stuff. He's like, you know, what

1:26:15

are you gonna tell some jokes? And

1:26:18

I'm like, and it was a

1:26:20

half a house in the OR and I'm like, look,

1:26:23

I just did three top quality jokes,

1:26:25

you know, and maybe it's not I'm

1:26:27

not for you. Like I didn't want

1:26:29

to get into I was not in

1:26:31

the zone. Yeah, yeah. And then it was

1:26:33

just fucking I hate that's the worst one. I

1:26:35

had that guy in Rochester today. So maybe see

1:26:37

something funny and I was like, well, well, well.

1:26:40

And then I ripped him in half. Yeah, guess

1:26:42

what? Yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah, funny. Well, yeah,

1:26:44

but that's what I said. It's like everyone like

1:26:46

around you is laughing. Why does it have to

1:26:48

be about you? And like, they

1:26:51

left. Good. I don't know if the doorman did. I

1:26:53

don't like when the doorman do because there's part of

1:26:55

me still. It's like I'm handling it. Yeah, I'll handle

1:26:57

it. Don't step in. I'm not a baby. But

1:26:59

then sometimes they don't step in when they need you step in. I got

1:27:01

to chair at me like a while ago. Yeah. I don't

1:27:03

know if you guys are in the OR. No. Oh, yeah. This fucking

1:27:06

guy would knock it off his phone and I just got

1:27:08

out of a horrendous breakup. I probably shouldn't have been there.

1:27:10

Yeah. It was like I was I was in a really

1:27:12

bad place. Yeah. I got there and I was already like

1:27:14

I cried all day and I got on stage. Yeah. Pissed

1:27:17

and this fucking guy's in the front and like a big puffy jacket

1:27:19

on the phone and I go, hey man, I

1:27:21

go really I'm that boring already. Keeps

1:27:23

on the phone. I go really man. I'm fucking talking

1:27:25

to you. He looks up and he goes, hmm, my

1:27:28

mom. I go to take it out in the hall. I

1:27:30

fit your mother. I'm like, she clearly sucks. Take out in

1:27:32

the hall. Whatever. Kind of move on. Whatever.

1:27:35

Yeah. Two minutes later he's back on the phone. I

1:27:37

snap. I go, that's fucking it. I get the fuck

1:27:39

out. He gets so mad at me. He

1:27:41

stands up, grabs the chair from the

1:27:43

bottom and I'm like, and I saw him doing this. Like,

1:27:46

are you going to throw the chair at me right now? The

1:27:48

crowd goes dead silent. He picks up. I guess he

1:27:50

doesn't realize how heavy those fucking or chairs will

1:27:52

bank with all chairs. So he goes to

1:27:55

throw it, but I see him struggling so he can barely get

1:27:57

it up. So he has to still get over the front desk.

1:27:59

So he gets it up. It does one small and

1:28:01

I don't even move I

1:28:04

just stand there and I watch it. I go if

1:28:06

you're gonna throw a fucking chair Don't be a pussy don't

1:28:08

fucking cheer at me and then the crowd like

1:28:10

loses it and then and then like a guy in the

1:28:12

front Row had to grab the guy and then and then

1:28:14

finally security. I'm like what is going on right now? I'm

1:28:16

just gonna take the one time. I wasn't telling myself. I

1:28:21

Was and then I murdered for 15 minutes. Yeah, I was

1:28:23

like this woman's insane Yeah, but I was like I would

1:28:25

have gone so viral a man throwing

1:28:27

a fucking chair me. Are you insane? Yeah That

1:28:30

what a missed opportunity now I film them all

1:28:32

in case anybody else wants to throw a chair.

1:28:34

Yeah now you're inviting me So

1:28:37

what are you still doing the podcast? Yes

1:28:40

every week. Yes, that's infection, please

1:28:42

for God's sakes I'm trying

1:28:44

so hard of this podcast and it's not what's the

1:28:46

angle? It's all the body stuff Yeah, so I have

1:28:48

a lot of weird ailments that I've been dealing with

1:28:50

my whole life Everything's like a vaccine. I'm covered in

1:28:52

hives every day like head to toe. So you think

1:28:54

it was the vaccine? Yeah,

1:28:56

right after the vaccine like bad a lot of

1:28:58

people who also took got the Moderna vaccine I'm like

1:29:01

little chat groups online stuff a lot of guys Specifically

1:29:04

Moderna. Yeah, if you had a pre-existing skin issue,

1:29:06

I guess so bad that my throat will

1:29:08

close up I don't have to go to the hospital. Yeah, that's a

1:29:10

weird reaction Yeah, it's crazy reaction, but I had like I had

1:29:13

like an ovarian system as a kid I went lots

1:29:15

of virginity. I but does that make you an anti-vaxxer?

1:29:17

You just like no Yeah,

1:29:19

I'm not a vaccine. No, I got I got it.

1:29:21

Yeah, I'm like they want more I'm

1:29:24

done getting them now. I do. I don't

1:29:26

to about the booze. Yeah. Yeah But

1:29:29

yeah, it's all the weird like it's for a common I want you

1:29:31

to come on if you have any body stuff like it's for a

1:29:33

common to talk about like Ailments break something they

1:29:35

don't normally talk about on stage.

1:29:37

I have a I have fairly

1:29:39

significant body dysmorphia Do you and

1:29:41

a mild eating disorder from being raised by

1:29:43

an anorexic, but I talk about it Okay,

1:29:45

well then come talk with this is perfect.

1:29:48

Yeah, it's important for men to speak out

1:29:50

it is About

1:29:52

manorexia, I think it is my boyfriend has

1:29:54

this Morphia. He's always grabby's. I'm fat. I'm he's got

1:29:56

He's a great He's a pincher. Oh, he's pinching it. Oh. Her

1:30:00

help ensure our but my brother's more potential

1:30:02

I'm at i'm a pinch or look in

1:30:04

the mirror your pension a out loud saying

1:30:06

fuck. Not. Me: I'm a

1:30:08

front pinscher ever? Some yeah by your little you're looking at

1:30:10

and saying i'm fat Are you doing now? Things are. What

1:30:12

I'm saying Like and I I've I've.

1:30:15

Gotten. Better And I say like a move bigger

1:30:17

than one day. I'm

1:30:21

over here and Spanx. I am sledding my dick

1:30:23

off and you have not an als us out on

1:30:26

use. I'm I'm sorry I don't wanna

1:30:28

read out or the other guy guessing and go

1:30:30

out as you to me as a surprise around

1:30:32

there you go like what the fuck, You have

1:30:34

to comply. Know. But I'm a that's why I think I

1:30:36

have a mild. Form. Of eggs I was banks a

1:30:38

every day Abby at all the support of the

1:30:40

my stomach being like sad that I like always

1:30:42

wear on stage you'll never see me through if

1:30:44

I lost my fucking my my I do The

1:30:46

first season of my show merits on I see

1:30:48

and we're this word your person and she puts

1:30:50

Banks in my trailer and I'm like what is

1:30:52

where these is like was some guys like to

1:30:54

were spanked moink what'd you say cities us of

1:30:56

assist assist us to i need to wear spanx.

1:30:59

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1:31:01

like but what is Moody's mean oh my god

1:31:03

it's an Ai We I would have been pleases

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into the things on there for my we either.

1:31:08

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and all. and tustin such as as him

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really long as as the right the dumps.

1:31:14

It's so easy for the weird way I

1:31:16

need them. Why else ice be a pretty

1:31:18

severe hypochondriac And I've I've very funny stories

1:31:21

I've told people that would tall and. Six

1:31:23

of us, nine. I used to be so crazy I

1:31:25

used eat french fries is a cat. Is

1:31:27

out of the knob and it because it has the knob

1:31:29

I can either parts my pile. Of. No doubt

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a friend or another nadya room was ousted.

1:31:34

The house is a yeah those x so

1:31:36

crazy and ice I was so paranoid as

1:31:38

cities along here that I didn't as as

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sellers nineteen as a soul paranoid as it

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were both a tacit now my daughter was

1:31:44

see later yeah I mean I wish. I

1:31:46

was that that in problems exist members

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in one ear nose. I have. A

1:31:51

crazy a phobia or Yakima has I threw

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her last. Ib it's over your face

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of his behavior and our own. You. Are

1:31:58

we a cerebral? Do it or me up. Whedon.

1:32:00

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1:32:03

but there was a we became sort of the same

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or sites you get any anyway. yeah although I i

1:32:07

was always your head his own. I have a

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i've been test raise more than a the of my

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life as I went last least sinhalese as I got

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the idea of either by I just it

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just amazes a letter yeah I'd avoid me

1:32:24

it's a i have that to I during

1:32:27

cove it i was like me are always

1:32:29

as every other way online had was a

1:32:31

day I go park my car in ways

1:32:33

by the by the word the stadium and

1:32:35

yeah oh yeah you're getting swabs Union has

1:32:37

and once a week maybe once every couple

1:32:40

weeks. my god we're. Crazy. A: Come on something

1:32:42

that. Okay, yes, very fun

1:32:44

for a laid back. Via. A

1:32:46

have a guest is a gesture of Minolta. The are

1:32:48

always yes is me to guests yeah. He ever

1:32:50

professionals younger than others and comics. yes I

1:32:53

have a lot of porn stars. they're my

1:32:55

favorite because they are very open about shit

1:32:57

and their stories are sucking raise as he

1:33:00

had sovereign on know oh a suit hook

1:33:02

you up with her yes please see earth's

1:33:04

his friend of mine and she's is used

1:33:06

to be adults but now she does a

1:33:09

a couple park as history caesar and she

1:33:11

does comedy night definitely. Yeah. You

1:33:13

should definitely have Ron I'm trying to get. I've

1:33:15

had nurses on and I had a hospice nurse

1:33:18

who amazing who taught other houses accept that made

1:33:20

me feel better about dying and like how know

1:33:22

you're here with it now known I so like

1:33:24

some nine my panic and crisis but assists a

1:33:27

cemetery for I'm like is going to have a

1:33:29

ones who isn't a of us I bad if

1:33:31

I think of it before they're asleep I'm up

1:33:33

whole fucking his. You really can get in the

1:33:35

zone of it like you know that that the

1:33:38

did that you're gonna die in a bad. It's

1:33:40

bad, It's bad anxiety. I mean you can do

1:33:42

it intellectual. Freedom and or whatever.

1:33:44

But if you really lock in and do

1:33:46

the acting do that the our my yes

1:33:48

so yeah yeah yeah Simon Method and then

1:33:51

I'm in edited. My boyfriend recently up by

1:33:53

some money as easy again and like tears

1:33:55

to my basement die his own odyssey and

1:33:57

that I started was really young. I had

1:33:59

that the. Me too. Fucking, since

1:34:01

my earliest memories are me, balled in my eyes at like

1:34:03

five years old, my parents coming in trying to console me.

1:34:05

It's very hard to console a child. People get up and

1:34:07

die, it's like, well, yeah, bitch, you are. Yeah. All

1:34:10

right, now that I can say now, it will be for a very long time,

1:34:12

I'm like, but I don't wanna die. It's like, yeah,

1:34:14

well, no one wants to die. Oh my God.

1:34:18

I used to freak out when my parents would go

1:34:20

away because I was sure they'd die in a plane

1:34:22

crash and I'd make myself sick. Oh, fuck. You know,

1:34:24

because they'd hire like a babysitter for a week and

1:34:26

I'd just be like, they're floating in the ocean. The

1:34:30

plane is in the ocean. And like, I couldn't go

1:34:32

to school because I'd make myself sick with anxiety. Oh

1:34:34

God. And I'd ruin their vacation by calling, only

1:34:37

calling the emergency. Hi, it's me. Your

1:34:42

mom was trying to get fucking her ass sucked by

1:34:44

your dad and you're like, I'm scared. You

1:34:46

guys are lying. That's what she said on

1:34:48

the phone. I'm surprised you

1:34:50

were on a dirtier comic. I mean. I

1:34:52

was. I've definitely done all the dirty.

1:34:54

Okay, you've done all the dirty. Maybe I'll be

1:34:56

clean when I get older. I've

1:34:59

tried to do that. But now again, because I'm kind

1:35:01

of champing at the bit about like, kind of like,

1:35:03

you know, what am I

1:35:06

gonna do now? And there's part of me that because I'm

1:35:08

old and like my audience is different, where it's sort of

1:35:10

like, oh, you don't know me. You don't know me. You

1:35:12

don't know what I can do. Yeah,

1:35:14

believe me, I have had a wife say like, could you

1:35:16

not do the thumb and the ass joke? Because you know,

1:35:18

it's me. It's

1:35:23

me and everyone now knows that it's my

1:35:25

ass. Yeah, exactly. I've had to deal with

1:35:27

that since the last. Is

1:35:29

that it? Yeah. No,

1:35:32

we thought it was a big ending. Good,

1:35:35

big ending, big, solid thumbs up ending. You

1:35:37

have something to say about your pussy before

1:35:39

we go? I'm good. You can see it

1:35:41

or you can't see it yet. I haven't

1:35:43

been released yet. You just, I don't

1:35:45

know. I have nothing to say. Call and cut my

1:35:47

podcast for a sec. I will, it was fun. Thanks for doing

1:35:50

it. Thank you. There

1:35:56

you go. Right? Huh?

1:36:00

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shameless, owning-it,

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1:36:08

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or on her social pages.

1:36:18

Hang out for a minute, folks. Folks,

1:36:24

look, listen. The latest

1:36:27

Ask Mark Anything episode is now posted

1:36:29

for Full Maron subscribers where I answer

1:36:31

whatever questions you folks can think up.

1:36:33

Audiences used to mainly laugh and applaud.

1:36:35

Now so many people feel the need

1:36:38

to woo, to demonstrate their approval. In

1:36:41

your performing experience, when did audiences start

1:36:43

wooing, and what do you think of

1:36:45

it? I can't stand

1:36:47

it, and I draw attention to it immediately and

1:36:49

shut it down as soon as the first woo

1:36:51

happens because I believe a woo

1:36:54

is not a response to a joke.