We're releasing this interview with Dr. Elizabeth Sawin now as she shares a hopeful and constructive message for how to approach tackling the climate and ecological emergency.  We're grateful to Dr. Sawin for coming on, and also to Carolyn Weaver, XR NYC's Twitter Master, for interviewing Dr. Sawin. **Please note this episode was recorded before the COVID-19 crisis, so the interview doesn't address the events current in April, 2020 when this episode is being released.** 
   
Elizabeth Sawin is Co-Director of Climate Interactive, a think tank that applies systems analysis to climate change and related issues. Beth is a biologist with a Ph.D. from MIT, her work focuses on helping people find solutions that prevent future climate change and build resilience to unavoidable climate impacts. She is a member of the Council on the Uncertain Human Future, a continuing dialogue on issues of climate change and sustainability. She has trained and mentored global sustainability leaders and Dalai Lama fellows. 
 
www.climateinteractive.org/   
 
Beth’s TED talk: 
 
The Power of Multisolving for People and Climate | Elizabeth Sawin | TEDxSunValley     
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=prF8trTallQ&feature=emb_logo 
 
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Thank you to Andre Bratten for giving us permission to use musical excerpts from his album Pax Americana out on the label Smalltown Supersound.