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So lorny after watching that whipped

1:04

cream gets sucked off of a dirty toe,

1:06

So morny.

1:14

Hello, welcome to another episode

1:16

of Williams This Rose. My name is artone

1:18

Marine, coming to you from my boogey garage in Los

1:20

Angeles, California. Holy

1:23

cow, I have the dream Team

1:25

assembled today to talk about

1:27

the most important episode

1:30

in television history, and that we're

1:32

including the Sopranos finale.

1:34

We're talking including the wire we're

1:37

including the end of

1:39

of Sybil. I don't know. I

1:41

don't know what you watch. Let me just

1:43

tell you, I don't think we could have

1:46

a funnier group of people with us today. With

1:48

us today, we'll start the

1:50

gentleman of the group, the b

1:53

the bachelor of the podcast today.

1:55

Thank you so much. I wish I was dating

1:57

all of you. Oh my god. He

2:00

is a comedian. He is a direct

2:03

It would help me out well,

2:08

surprised yours is actually a

2:10

dating show. Welcome to the podcast.

2:13

He's a comedian, a director or writer.

2:15

He's a podcast host. He's the director

2:18

and producer of Between Two Ferns.

2:21

He is the host of the podcast

2:23

and the i f C show Comedy

2:25

Bang Bang. He also hosts

2:27

a podcast with a

2:30

another member of this podcast

2:32

that's here, called Threedom

2:34

Ladies and Gentlemen. Scott Ackerman.

2:37

Oh so thankful

2:39

to be back talking about this incredible

2:42

show. Even though it's back to school,

2:44

it's still summer in Paradise. I

2:47

like that they're just taking it through to October.

2:50

I mean, I feel like it

2:52

keeps my lifestyle happening.

2:54

Yeah, why don't they do like Halloween in Paradise?

2:56

You know, we all have to wear slutty costumes,

2:58

and that would be so a sexy cat

3:01

in the sand. I would love that.

3:03

I would watch any version of paradixtually.

3:05

One guy was the sexy cat in the sand already

3:07

this season, so sexy cat in

3:09

the sand and with a ukulele, which

3:11

is what we never knew we needed. Okay,

3:15

there is a woman here today who

3:18

has resisted Bachelor in Paradise.

3:20

She watched it, but she was like, not

3:23

for me, I like, according

3:25

to her groom, who might or may

3:27

or may not be the Bachelor of this podcast.

3:30

Apparently she likes the main franchise,

3:32

she likes the Bachelor. She doesn't like any

3:35

of it. She doesn't like any of it. So she finally

3:37

likes but she's watched it because she's

3:39

married to this human and

3:42

now she's finally like Okay, okay,

3:44

okay, I get it. All these years

3:46

of torture of getting to know the farm team and

3:48

now I get to see mean like

3:51

horny horny musical chairs.

3:53

I understand. Um.

3:55

She's an actress, she's a writer, and she's a

3:58

director. She's the co host of

4:00

the podcast add to the cart which I have to

4:02

say, I'm obsessed with and

4:04

you have to listen to And it's a problem because I've

4:06

been to spend you Wendy lately and everything she talks

4:09

about I want to buy. She's an actor

4:11

that was on Children's Hospital. She's a showrunner

4:13

and creator of the jillion Dollar Properties.

4:16

She is at the director of the documentary

4:19

Origin story. Cool up last,

4:22

I've been doing it again. Cool up la

4:25

art and art and with your own last

4:27

name, you piece of ship. You fucking

4:29

wrote it out phonetically, cool

4:31

up v lisck. There

4:34

we go. Yet it right here,

4:37

you've thought it right now. It's add to cart

4:39

and not add to the cart. Just

4:41

to throw that in there is the name of this show.

4:44

Will you accept this? The rose it is?

4:46

And will you accept this? The rose is? Actually I

4:48

I panicked and I got that as a neck tattoo.

4:50

So it's stuck. I

4:52

am so happy to be here. I

4:55

had to you know, just

4:58

again you you mentioned it for a year. Is

5:00

just I'm I'm coming. I

5:03

want to spend time with my husband. To go

5:05

into the living room. He's got The Bachelor on.

5:07

I pivot, I turn around, I get out of there.

5:10

But this the last this

5:12

season. Yeah, I had to look at myself.

5:15

I had to feel what I feel and and

5:17

say I'm enjoying

5:19

this. That's right, I believe. Cool

5:22

Up tweeted, Okay, I like Bachelor in Paradise

5:25

after last week's episode,

5:27

which the tease for next week ended

5:30

with Little John coming out going yeah,

5:32

and we just burst into applause. Truly,

5:36

I feel like they're giving us everything we need

5:38

right now, Like they are just

5:41

this hostless show, this rotating

5:43

like captain this ship, with

5:45

more characters on the boat than they've ever

5:47

had, Like this is just the largest cast

5:50

in Horny history. And Colub,

5:53

was there a moment that you were like, I'm

5:55

in like, I like, was there a

5:57

particular thing like what crack do? What was

5:59

the thing that crack to you? I think I

6:01

mean something about the combination of

6:04

just like the

6:06

the the inmates kicking

6:09

each other out really like took

6:11

me to this other place, and I

6:13

think it is about this moment in the

6:15

Demi for me, like this is this

6:18

is not Demi the character show,

6:20

but the pandemic. H Okay, okay,

6:23

okay, okay. I thought she called Demi the Demi,

6:25

which I liked. Okay, okay,

6:27

this is now my ted lasso,

6:30

because that's where I'm at. In turn, this is

6:32

what we watched to feel good. No,

6:34

no, you're right, but it is because because

6:36

because I feel like we're to make us feel great about

6:38

humanity, because I feel like we all

6:40

want to go to a party. Now we're all at the point

6:42

of the pandemic where all of us need to dance

6:45

party. We all need to just blow some

6:47

steam off. And thank God

6:49

said some steam in what I thought you were going

6:51

to say. You

6:54

know, I normally would just go right to just blow

6:56

aload. Just this

6:59

is something that's so mean Covid

7:02

from blow Jobs. Well,

7:04

speaking of that, you got long haul

7:07

Covid. If the penis is under three in, well,

7:11

right now you are hearing, you are

7:13

hearing a woman that we just adore,

7:16

that we love on this podcast. She is also

7:18

a host of Threedom with Scott

7:20

aarker Man and Paula Tompkins. She's

7:22

an actor, she's a comedian. She's

7:24

a podcast host. She's

7:26

the host of Newcomers with Nicole Buyer. She

7:29

was on Orange is the New Black. She was

7:31

on Crashing and she

7:34

is Missy from the Wrong

7:36

Missy, which was like such a star

7:39

turn. You know, her, you love

7:41

her, Lauren lap Kiss Hi,

7:43

Hi, Oh my god,

7:46

are you loving this season or what? I've

7:49

never really watched Paradise and what I've

7:53

been more of a bachelor. I need to

7:55

take a drink so I can do a spit take. Yeah.

7:57

Yeah. Um. Everyone we

8:00

saying that Paradise is the best show,

8:02

but I just have never gotten into it. And now we've

8:04

been. My husband and I've been watching every week, and

8:06

he was more into it than I was. I was kind of like,

8:08

everyone's it's too much. But

8:11

now this whole Piper and Brandon

8:13

the thing is what got me. Now I'm really into

8:15

it. Now you got it. Now it's so

8:17

good. We're also going to bring in a

8:19

newcomer to Paradise. She literally

8:22

was going to text me, but she decided

8:24

to call me to tell me

8:26

how much she enjoyed Paradise, and then how

8:28

much she's been enjoying the Paradise podcast, and

8:31

it just so how I was like, oh my god, I didn't think

8:33

you were watching. And she's friends

8:35

with all these people. She's an actor, a writer,

8:37

a musician. She's half of the musical comedy

8:40

duo Guardfunkle and Oates. She's

8:42

an actor from Raising Hope, Big Bang Theory,

8:44

the Lego movie Scooby Doo. We adore

8:46

her ladies and gentlemen Kate, but Coja, Hey,

8:49

everybody, Hi, I

8:52

have to tell you. Ardon when I did your Bachelor

8:54

podcast last um, you had

8:56

said, oh, you've never seen paradise, You're in for

8:58

a real treat, and uh

9:01

you were not wrong. I am freaking

9:03

loving it. It's so good. It's

9:06

so good. It's first of all, I'm

9:08

gonna go back to Scott Like it's so nice

9:10

just to feel like we're all on vacation in Mexico,

9:12

like that that's an option that we can all

9:14

go safely somehow make

9:16

out with people in Mexico and like just

9:19

like it feels like a time

9:21

warp of like a COVID free zone,

9:24

of like this is how we could all possibly live

9:26

now. It's a lot like cool up and

9:28

I and Lauren and her husband and three

9:31

other couples we went to Hawaii. If

9:33

if we had been constantly fucking

9:36

each other, well, yeah, if

9:38

we've been constantly fucking and we are only allowed

9:40

to go inside when we fuck, and

9:45

then we have to fun in the same room, and

9:49

there's and there's one couple that's fucked

9:51

the most and just kind of like stick their claim

9:53

on the room. You mis understood. We all

9:55

funded each other. Okay, I get it, I

9:57

get it. I get it, I get it. I get it. Well,

10:00

I'm gonna start at the top and final the way. Also,

10:02

of course, our production team

10:04

is here, ladies and

10:06

gentlemen. What doctor Banana looked like she

10:08

just had a head a hand coming out of the top

10:10

of her head. I don't know. On the other side,

10:12

there we go, right there, it looks like there's a hand

10:15

Jesus draping over the top

10:17

of your head. Katie Levine, Dr

10:20

Tanna, Dana Banana, how are you both

10:23

great? I'm good to

10:25

talk about this episode. Well, what

10:27

an episode. We're starting out at the top. Five

10:29

women are going home. There's nine guys,

10:31

and it

10:34

was really that's right, guys think so much. Okay,

10:38

it's just gonna be. It's just gonna be. Scott,

10:41

you're the only person left on the podcast. By

10:43

the way, I want to say that Kate and

10:46

cool Up and I were texting yesterday

10:49

or the day before. I know it was Monday,

10:51

and uh, Kate does

10:54

something interesting every time an episode

10:56

comes on. What is that I make

10:58

a cake. But

11:01

I have to say I was going to do it yesterday

11:03

because I was going to make I was going to make a cake

11:06

on Monday. But then but then I found

11:08

out that there was football that Scott told

11:10

me that you had told him, and so I was like, oh, well, of Arten

11:12

saying it's right. I was really excited on Monday.

11:15

Yesterday. I didn't make a cake. But I usually

11:17

bake something, and most of the time it's a cake.

11:20

Okay, wait a minute, do you do it for the regular

11:23

season as well? Or just paradise? Yea a cake

11:25

or like sometimes cinnamon rolls. It was like,

11:27

you know, Matt James holiday season, they were like more

11:29

holiday things happening. But I usually make

11:32

something and I often it's a cake. I just

11:34

love to make a box cake. I

11:36

love boxing. I love box case.

11:39

Are you making it during the show? Is like a thing

11:41

to do or to eat during the show? To eat

11:43

during the show. What's been your favorite

11:46

what's been the most successful one so far? Do you do

11:48

like a fun fetty ever? Um? You know, I

11:50

sometimes I do? Then you did one in the shape of Chicago

11:53

Joe. He's

11:56

an angry game, Like we got to talk to you

11:58

made it many layers like harved It. It was it

12:01

was a very extensive note. She just she

12:03

she did a box cake and then took away anything

12:05

that was in Chicago Joe,

12:09

but I I just love my favorite

12:11

is just a chocolate cake with a white icing

12:13

is my favorite? Like a Duncan Hines. You know, were

12:16

you making two a week when there were two episodes

12:19

a week? But there's left You're not insane.

12:22

I wish you're not insane. Okay,

12:24

okay, great, all right, that is all We

12:27

got it what we came here for. Good night everybody.

12:32

We're starting out and people

12:34

are like finally saying out

12:36

loud what we were all thinking at

12:38

the end of last week, like whoa, whoa, Wait

12:40

a minute, why are Brendan

12:43

and Piper getting off easy when

12:45

like a, Lana and Chris just got

12:47

kicked off And Natasha's like, that's

12:50

in paradise so far has been based online. And

12:52

we see Brendan like

12:54

actually acknowledging like I got off easy,

12:56

and then people are like, no, one's not at Brendan,

12:58

which is everything we were thinking like,

13:01

and and people are start to say out loud

13:04

like wait, why why isn't anybody

13:06

mad at Brendan Um just

13:08

Senia says, Chris wanted to play a game

13:10

and I was a pawn, and uh it

13:12

felt exciting to be like, Okay, here we go,

13:15

they're going to acknowledge it. Cool up. Did

13:17

you feel like justice was about to be served?

13:19

Did you feel excited hearing the rumblings of

13:21

people noticing that this narrative wasn't

13:23

just a Lana and Chris, Yeah, it

13:25

was. It was nice to see it

13:29

being shown. I think in the past, things

13:31

like you know, whatever variations

13:34

on the theme of gas lighting.

13:36

It sometimes gets like lost

13:39

or oh gosh, it comes. The dog needs to

13:41

come up, Georgians. George's whining and needs

13:43

to come up. And that's all right. Dogs are very

13:46

well all Georgia.

13:49

We're very animal friendly on this podcast.

13:51

Yeah. So I was Scott's first

13:53

kiss. I've

13:58

had Sacks. Okay, you haven't

14:00

kissed him out. It's pretty woman. He's

14:02

very much He's Roberts and that's

14:05

Richard gear right there, Georgia.

14:08

Sergia, will you accept the threat? Um?

14:11

Yeah? So I the Chris

14:13

and Alana business

14:15

was just so thrilling, because,

14:18

like Scott, it's distracting.

14:21

She's so needy. She's looking in my eyes

14:23

like I love you so much, I

14:25

need to acknowledge it. That's

14:27

so bad, is what Piper

14:30

said. You

14:34

felt like they weren't getting gas lit. Yeah,

14:37

it was nice to see Chris just get

14:39

like really hammered by

14:41

everybody and know that this

14:43

is coming for you. Brendan, like there was no way

14:46

it wasn't. There was a moment

14:48

where it felt unfair last week where

14:50

I was like why I felt

14:52

for Natasha, Like why is everybody defending

14:55

Xenia but nobody cares about Natasha?

14:58

And then I was grateful that knows

15:00

just the editor is doing incredible

15:02

editing and that there was a delay because people

15:05

liked Brendan. So Titus comes

15:07

in and he kept really trying to hammer

15:09

home the tight ass party, which I think people

15:11

were like, wait, what is that? Because yeah,

15:16

yeah, it

15:18

felt like a long way to go, and

15:21

even yeah, the people there

15:23

were even like, huh, like if we're not getting

15:25

it, you know, it just didn't so um.

15:28

So basically he says, if you're already

15:30

in a relationship, it defeats the purpose

15:33

of coming here. Um. And

15:35

then Demi really sort of starts

15:37

to like fan the flames. It's bizarre.

15:39

That's no one coming after Brendan. It was way

15:41

worse than Chris. Brendan and Piper

15:44

Um there were almost like in a full

15:46

relationship. Meanwhile we

15:49

see them acting like pieces of ship. They're

15:51

talking about poor Natasha, like

15:53

you know, that's what happens when you're in a relationship.

15:56

It's always at the expense of somebody else. And

15:58

then Piper says, don't be a child.

16:00

When you win some, you fucking

16:02

lose some. Wait, don't

16:05

you think they have no sense that like there's a camera

16:07

on them, if there's not a man holding it, like

16:10

the times where they're like on the couch or like we can just

16:12

say whatever the fuck and it's like, okay,

16:16

yeah, come on, you're right, you're right. I

16:19

mean, it was shocking just to hear them

16:22

speak so free and so and

16:26

didn't I liked him when he was on he

16:29

was such a good guy, and then this time

16:31

I'm like, he just comes across it's such an asshole.

16:34

I don't think I've ever been

16:36

so played by a contestant.

16:39

I have not ever seen somebody show

16:41

no hints of being a

16:43

total garbage person. Kate,

16:46

were you shocked watching Brendan and Piper

16:48

sort of like just talk openly

16:51

and trash everybody in front of the cameras. Yeah,

16:53

I mean, I'm just like, don't you know

16:56

what are you doing? You know, it's just ridiculous

16:58

that they wouldn't think, like Laurena saying,

17:01

you've got to know you're just being watched the

17:03

entire time. But I think that my

17:05

favorite line in the whole episode. Maybe

17:08

I'm not sure if we're there yet, when when she's talking

17:10

about how she got her master's degree.

17:13

Oh my god, that was incredible, So we're

17:15

not there yet. That's in which

17:18

is also like the most as somebody tweeted us

17:20

a master's degree of marketing. Is there

17:22

a more useless master's degree?

17:25

Somebody tweeted to I have

17:27

a technical question. Yes, yes, the

17:29

boom boom room cameras like turn

17:31

off when the actual fucking ste you

17:33

know what, we don't know. We

17:35

should have asked Wells last week cause Wells was

17:37

here and Wells

17:40

was It feels like it

17:42

feels like they must watch them

17:45

fun. That

17:47

is so sick because what if something

17:49

like something happened, like maybe

17:51

they have a sensor on the penis

17:53

to where like once insertion happened suddenly

17:56

that like the camera turns off, but I think

17:58

I think they have to keep it on because is what if they

18:00

say something during it that is important to

18:02

the storyline, so that reigns that there

18:04

are just so many rugged,

18:07

hard drives of just hardcore

18:09

sex dude just from this

18:12

from this couple along if

18:16

they have to like explain the process

18:18

to the contestants of like, oh no, these

18:20

tapes go into like there

18:22

it's almost like you know, when you you're looking at

18:24

evidence, uh, and by another

18:27

judge has to come in, like who's impartial

18:29

to it? You know, if like suddenly there's a mistrial.

18:31

I don't know, it just feels like they have to because

18:34

or these people just love knowing that people

18:36

are watching them. Funk. I can't believe

18:39

how far into the fucking

18:41

they show the footage because

18:44

because there's also wanted eight PM, Like families

18:46

in theory could be watching like this is families

18:49

gathered around the wa I

18:51

gotta tell you, but

18:54

there might be like like I

18:56

did an Instagram live thing from

18:58

my book promotion lest year, and

19:01

and I one time did a thing where I would like let

19:03

people in like that, like what you

19:06

know, so you could like like just pick some random

19:08

person that requests to come into your video.

19:11

And there was a six year old who

19:13

was on who had watched both seasons

19:15

of Insatiable, which was really dark,

19:18

and she was like, I loved Insatiable. She

19:20

was six, It was it was

19:23

I guarantee you there are families when

19:26

I was a little kid. But I don't know if I would have been

19:28

interacting with the people on it on a zoom. And

19:32

also they're not showing on nine o O, like

19:34

you know, security camp footage of them fucking

19:42

I got to have another back boom room question.

19:44

There's only one, right one, There's only

19:46

one. I think I was thinking about that. I

19:48

actually thought that I felt

19:50

for the couple. Oh,

19:52

I felt for Kenny and Marie that

19:55

they had to go to basically

19:58

Riley's like palace

20:00

like like, but Kenny is like sucking around

20:03

like the whole time. I don't think Kenny's already

20:05

been there. Kenny's already been there with DEMI. Yeah,

20:08

he's just turning to the ste with

20:10

him being naked so much. Well

20:12

I did Google apparently,

20:16

yeah there's photos of him

20:18

nude. He's done nude photos online with

20:20

him holding a rooster. We talked

20:22

about this on the last episode I did on During

20:25

it, I googled it. It's

20:28

it's something. It's something to see

20:31

Kenny Bachelor Penick Kenny. You'll

20:33

find it back in my photos of him

20:35

holding a rooster. Okay,

20:37

so back to ship.

20:42

Do you want to put it in the group chat? Throw it

20:44

in the group chat, pulled it up to the Camerasid'm

20:46

on my phone. Yeah,

20:49

that's not the rooster one.

20:56

So Natasha is busy saying,

20:59

he told me, oh my god, there it is. There

21:01

he is. That's blurred out, but you can get it not blurred

21:03

out. It's very purple. If I recall, what

21:05

is he doing? Is he sucking someone in this

21:07

picture? What am I looking at?

21:11

The rooster? That him?

21:14

Is that him? I think? So, I'm going back to my search

21:18

dot com. I still love Kenny.

21:20

He's still my Bachelor in Paradise boyfriend.

21:22

He is my surprise favorite, I

21:24

will say, because I didn't like

21:26

he seemed fine before, but now like watching

21:29

him on this journey, he is so I love. It's so

21:31

awesome. Reasonable cool

21:33

up. You get one free pass just for like if

21:36

if Scott was never born. Who's your b I

21:38

P. Don't have to be born? Who's

21:41

your Who's your b I free

21:43

B? Who's your kid? Was

21:46

never born to

21:52

live a separate life? And I'll get existed?

22:00

Is your boyfriend? Who's your b I P? Boy friend? Here's

22:02

the thing? It would have been Brendan and just looks.

22:05

Of course looks, but you

22:07

can't really know. Now I can't. So

22:09

who's not who's to who stepped into his top

22:11

position? I mean, there is something

22:13

about Joe that I enjoy Bachelor

22:16

Joe, Bachelor Joe Joe.

22:19

He seems like he seems like an adult.

22:21

He seems like someone who's relatively

22:24

honest and and is not trying

22:26

to play every girl he like, finds

22:28

one he likes and goes, hey, let's

22:30

settle down, but only in Chicago.

22:35

Hey, we got to talk about something over here.

22:37

Okay, Wait, So Natasha is all piste

22:39

off and she's like, he told me that him

22:42

and Piper hung out twice that is casual.

22:44

And then it's like, then I talked to Piper,

22:46

she said we hung out ten times. Guess

22:48

what were they here the day before? Yeah,

22:50

they hung out the day before they got here. So

22:53

then Joe was like, whoa whoa, whoa, Wait

22:55

a minute, what exactly happened? No, no,

22:58

no, no, Now we've got to get to the bottom of the this.

23:00

Um. And he's like, I would like I gotta

23:02

air my concerns and Demi and Demi's

23:05

like, yeah, I think he should go. So then he

23:07

storms over there. Brendan goes, oh,

23:10

why is Joey coming at me? Joe

23:12

leads the charge across the beach. Demi

23:15

goes, what are you doing here? We need a little

23:17

clarification. He says, oh,

23:19

look, here comes Joe and his band of disgruntled

23:22

and it was his gang of disgruntled females.

23:25

Not great um, and they go

23:27

people feel like you do a relationship prior

23:30

to the show, um. And then

23:32

it's like, look, we hung out a handful of times.

23:35

And it's not like I said, Hey, Piper, you want to be my

23:37

girlfriend. It's not exclusive. Natasha

23:39

and I had a connection that was void of

23:41

any romance I tried

23:44

to get there. Did I see Piper

23:46

the day before I left? Yes? I did. Demi,

23:49

I know you wrote the rule Book of relationships

23:51

and paradise and she goes, oh, fuck

23:54

off, um, and then

23:56

they're like, okay, Piper did you come here to

23:58

see Brendan? She's like, yes, I did

24:00

it, And anyway, I

24:02

gotta tell you every time Brendan

24:05

comes at Natasha and her lack of

24:07

prospects, of void of any

24:09

connection, that's where he enrages

24:12

me all over again. I'm gonna throw a dr banana.

24:14

Danna, talk to us, Dana, how did you

24:16

feel about this? I mean, the mob mentality

24:19

always scares me because I always I

24:22

it's if I saw Joe and then

24:24

a bunch of like beautiful women walking towards

24:26

me, I would be freaked out.

24:29

But Stein's monster. Aren't

24:31

you yet handle

24:33

it? In general? Especially

24:36

Demmi who definitely had a girlfriend last time

24:38

she came up, So I was like, wow, okay, Debbie,

24:40

let's note right. Wait a second,

24:42

she can't throw stones, but I

24:44

but like him throwing Natasha repeatedly

24:47

under the bus about how

24:50

they had no connection, how they had

24:52

no like no one was here for her, like

24:54

I couldn't even get there with her cool up? How

24:56

did you feel every time your last

24:58

boyfriend Brendan did the to Natasha. He's

25:01

such a dickhead. He didn't

25:03

it was horrible. He he's a piece

25:05

of ship and he didn't stop there. He

25:07

was saying that about Deandra, he

25:09

was saying things about Demi. He just was

25:12

so um you

25:14

mentioned it before, just so cruel and

25:17

and it wasn't until he left,

25:19

which I know we're going to get where there was a little bit

25:21

of honesty when he was on that,

25:23

on that in the car

25:26

on the way out, where he said a little bit of like,

25:28

let's say, like, you know, being

25:30

honest, He was a little bit,

25:32

but he does that the horrible thing of

25:35

like, I'm sorry that you're upset. Yes,

25:38

he's gaslighting, and like he doesn't

25:40

know that he he knows everything he did, he

25:42

knows that he's caught, and he's just being

25:45

like so small by just tearing all these

25:47

women down for no reason. It's like I

25:49

was surprised. That's to

25:51

me, the cruelty of tearing down the women.

25:54

Look, I get I get that maybe

25:56

these ding dongs are like, Okay, we're gonna go out,

25:58

Like I understand the plotting of that, But

26:01

it's the meanness towards all these

26:03

women that feels like, oh,

26:06

I don't think this is brand new mentality

26:08

for him, Like you don't talk about other

26:10

women like that, Like it just says

26:12

like, oh my god, I felt so fool but like it's

26:15

so unkind and he didn't need to

26:17

throw that on the pile of just getting

26:19

caught. There was such a cruelty to it

26:21

that was there's a toxic masculinity

26:23

too. I'm angry because

26:26

I'm not doing I don't get to do what I

26:28

want to do how I want to do it. And

26:30

then I'm getting any sort of blowback

26:33

or any type of feedback. I'm just gonna

26:35

be I'm just gonna mean Scott,

26:37

do you think that this is who he was before

26:40

he came on like clarentatious

26:42

season or do you think that fame has made a monster

26:45

of Brendan. I both

26:47

of these couples, I feel like they

26:50

have this sort of thing in their

26:53

heads of that they're going to be bachelor

26:55

royalty and pair up and be like

26:57

these fun bachelor couples that people root

26:59

for, and then they get there and

27:01

they're scheming and their machinations

27:04

exposed them for the fame whors

27:06

that they actually are and it turns

27:09

people off. And and you said it was interesting

27:11

with both couples when they're leaving,

27:14

they're both so sad

27:16

about basically just like leaving

27:18

a beach, you know, But it's not that. It's it's

27:20

about their dream of being

27:23

idealized bachelor couples

27:25

has come tumbling down and now

27:28

they realize they're the villains on the show. It's

27:31

not what they wanted. You've watched the every

27:33

iteration of the franchise from the beginning,

27:35

correct, since the guy who

27:38

saying they might might be giants in the New

27:40

York carriage in season one,

27:43

Well, so to have Piper actually

27:46

say the phrase I was excited

27:48

for the future possibility of

27:51

making more money, like of actually

27:53

saying it out loud and this is coming to Europe, and

27:56

just even the phrase of like bringing that outside

27:59

element of like oh that so on,

28:01

like actually editing it in and

28:04

like that's what this is. This is

28:06

like I get to retire at twenty three from

28:09

being a dental hygienist or whatever. Anybody

28:11

does you know, like, like have you seen

28:13

that? Has it ever been so explicit

28:16

on this franchise. No, they've I mean they've

28:18

never kept that kind of stuff in. But it's

28:20

interesting because who's Chicago Joe's ex

28:24

Kendall. Yeah, so you know, remember her

28:26

first season she was the weirdo she

28:28

was the taxidermist. She was the taxidermist

28:30

who loved taxidermy, and she was like portrayed

28:33

as an oddball. But then she's

28:35

stuck with it. And now we were

28:37

watching her and I said, oh, I wonder how many Instagram

28:39

followers she has. And she has like a

28:42

little under a million, I think, if

28:44

not, if not even more, And

28:46

and it's all this anodyne stuff

28:48

of like wellness and like, hey, did

28:50

you ever think when you get up you could drink eight glasses

28:53

of water? A little tip for me, you know, with

28:55

like glamour pictures of her, And I'm like,

28:57

you were the weirdo who had personality

29:00

to you. Now like she's making

29:02

money off of it, you know, because that's people

29:04

are interested in that. Well, we'll beat

29:06

the weirdness out of you on this show, though, I mean everyone

29:08

becomes like so like you know

29:11

Instagram. Well, this is

29:13

what what Kate brought up earlier. This

29:16

is an incredible statement I would

29:18

have gotten there on my own. I have a degree

29:20

in marketing. I can figure out how to get

29:22

a few more followers. Oh

29:24

my god, master's degree

29:28

in the master's degree, how to get followers? You

29:31

know? She actually said, I wrote it down because

29:33

I loved it so much. I have an entire

29:35

master's degree, which she

29:38

got the whole thing. Did

29:43

Katie, what did you? Katie Levine? And we haven't

29:45

heard from you today? What did you think

29:48

listening to them? Like, and he was

29:50

like, look, I didn't like. I just I

29:52

didn't lie. I just kind of

29:54

like didn't disclose everything,

29:57

like all of that, and her saying, I just wanted to make

29:59

money. You have also watched every version of this,

30:02

How did it feel? Kind of peeking behind the

30:04

curtains so clearly it was just

30:06

it was really kind

30:08

of just weird to see it just so out in the open,

30:10

because normally it's there, we know it's there, but they're

30:12

hiding behind it. And these two were just like, no,

30:15

we are here to get famous, We're here to get Instagram

30:17

followers so we can sell ritual

30:20

vitamins or whatever. And it's just like

30:22

it was so odd to just see

30:25

them just so blatant about it. And

30:27

it was really kind of gross because it's

30:29

like they shouldn't have been on that beach. They were clearly

30:31

together in something some way,

30:33

and like Wells even said, he goes there is

30:35

one rule to the show you don't come with a

30:38

boyfriend or a girlfriend, and I mean, you know,

30:40

I mean, and they let Wells up from behind the bar to talk

30:43

about it. I know he did a good

30:45

job. I felt like, I

30:47

mean, I don't know how you guys still be curious. But even

30:49

though I did not, I didn't like the mob mentality,

30:52

but I did, I have to say they

30:54

shouldn't have been there, and I'm glad that they got.

30:56

However, when I'm glad they got eliminated,

30:59

like because to other people could

31:01

have been there if they were already

31:03

dating. You know, I'm surprised,

31:08

did you are you guys so glad that they're gone. I'm

31:10

surprised it worked both times because I

31:14

thought both couples would be like Trump, where

31:16

it's just like no, I refused to go, and then

31:19

it all just works out, you know, in two days, where

31:21

people go like Okay, maybe you know, like

31:24

you should just refuse to be

31:26

kicked out, you know. And that's I've always

31:28

said that with like Survivor and

31:30

Bachelor and all that, like the host

31:32

doesn't have any power to kick you out. Jeff

31:35

Prope says, like, you know you're

31:38

you're off the islands, just go like fuck,

31:40

you know I'm staying and well what are they gonna

31:42

do? Okay

31:44

were you? Were you glad

31:46

that they left? Yeah, it

31:49

was fantastic, you

31:51

know, give me a little justice. I felt

31:53

that too. I felt like, particularly because

31:55

he'd been so mean, him being

31:57

so mean to like it

31:59

was on the following the fact that he was so

32:02

cruel to her. It was like, get the funk out

32:04

of here, You're such a dick, just like,

32:06

don't be don't be shady

32:08

and cruel like he was to

32:10

me. The yeah,

32:13

I have to go, But I do want to just say

32:15

I wouldn't have been asthmad if they had played

32:17

it well when they arrived, like they just showed

32:20

their hand like immedia, and it was like no fun,

32:22

Like if you if they could have tricked us for like a

32:24

few more weeks, that would have been way more exciting and I wouldn't

32:26

have been a grossed out by anything. I think it would have been

32:28

more fun because I feel like other people

32:30

in the past have kind of had flirtations,

32:33

they were just so on the nose of like we had an

32:35

agreement. But I feel like people have come in

32:38

kind of like kind of already dating, which

32:40

like all this stuff. By the way, we should

32:43

say the producers know that

32:45

they have that they're

32:47

dating. They

32:50

love it like that. This is so they're they're technic.

32:52

When Wells got all haughty, like there's one

32:54

rule, don't have a girlfriend, it's like that's

32:56

not a rule. They cast them knowing that

32:58

they were together and and separated

33:01

them by a week in order to do this, you

33:03

know, Katie Levin and I see Katie wanting

33:05

to get in there. Well I had to go. I have to go. But this

33:07

was very my

33:10

Lauren see. I think they knew

33:12

they were talking. I don't think maybe they knew

33:14

to the extent that they were actually Danny

33:17

because like they tell people like, oh, this is who's coming,

33:19

who do you want to meet? And then like Brenda

33:22

might have said, like to them, oh, I've been,

33:24

you know, talking to Piper. So they're like, oh,

33:26

well, let's bring Piper in, but just to like make things

33:28

a little more you know, um dramatic,

33:30

let's bring her on two weeks later, that type

33:32

of thing. So I wonder if the producers new

33:35

to what extent they had been hanging out.

33:39

I did love Piper in the car

33:41

as they're leaving, saying I told you

33:43

I didn't want to come, Kate.

33:45

Did you love that

33:48

that everything got totally

33:50

revealed in that car ride when he

33:52

he said something so I can't remember what

33:54

it was, but he was so honest to

33:56

a point of like, oh, well there it is right there.

33:58

And then she said that it was just like it

34:01

all was very I mean, not that it hadn't

34:03

been clear before to the viewer, but they basically

34:05

just showed all of their cards while

34:07

leaving. And I don't know, I just

34:10

was made aware of this a few days ago. Do you guys follow

34:12

Bachelor data? It's Instagram?

34:16

Uh that I guess. It's like, I don't

34:18

know. A friend of mine told me about it the other day, but it shows

34:20

you in graphs and charts like who is

34:22

losing followers? And both Piper

34:25

and Brendan have lost a lot of

34:27

followers. Okay, there's a really

34:29

fun video. We'll I'll

34:31

email it to you cool episo, it's got They made a really

34:33

fun video from after

34:35

last week's episode with Brendon and

34:37

watching Natasha's climb because she

34:40

gave like two hundred thousand followers and how

34:43

many has he? What is he up? So when you

34:45

first check eight now and what was

34:47

he at when you first checked? He was

34:49

at like three fifty six, So he's lost

34:51

like a hundred thousand pipers,

34:54

only lost like seven thousand. Oh now

34:56

he's at two forty seven. Last night he was to

34:58

forty. So he's continuing to lose allowers.

35:00

And Natasha has gained how many

35:03

I don't know how many, like how

35:05

many I'd have to look, but she's at four or forty

35:07

seven now, so she's getting something like two

35:11

followers, like a lot it

35:13

Nate Silver or Nate Silver

35:16

can't predict anything. And

35:19

then as they go, they go. They are not America's

35:21

sweetheart couple. They are their own villain

35:24

in their own story. It was so

35:26

good that Demi.

35:29

And then he goes, look, I didn't lie.

35:32

I just withheld information. So

35:37

good, all right, And I think further on Brendan

35:39

and Piper before we take a quick break. He

35:42

did lie over and over again. That's not

35:44

true. He's like the we can play

35:46

it all back. How many times he lied? He

35:48

lied? He lied, he

35:51

lied and people died. He lied

35:53

and people died and there was consequences.

35:55

Or we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. Let's

36:00

don't. Oh

36:05

sexual time and

36:10

we're back. Oh my god, Well

36:12

we see in comes

36:14

the dirtiest like we haven't

36:17

seen this explicit, this much horny

36:19

material on television in a while. Marisa

36:22

has set up. She's

36:25

got a bottle of champagne. She's got

36:27

champagne, whip cream and

36:30

chocolate syrup. Set up in the sand

36:32

on the beach, and they're gonna play a game.

36:35

I've got little slips of paper and there's a drawing.

36:38

You're gonna pull it out. There's a body part on it,

36:40

and then we're gonna lick whipped cream off each

36:42

other. So it's her inner thigh,

36:44

his lips, the toe looking

36:47

up. Okay, the toe,

36:49

lick the toe, the whip

36:52

cream. Kay, you're shaking your cat

36:54

talk. I had to turn away. It was I

36:56

couldn't look. I couldn't watch. It

36:59

was so bross to me. I mean,

37:01

any toe looking, I think in general, but you

37:03

know, it looked like it was you know, they

37:05

had been walking around on a dirty beach of it all.

37:09

And then he put it between her boobs

37:11

and then it said, now we know who these belong

37:13

to. I'm in Scott

37:17

What the hell? I you know, the

37:19

toe thing cool up and I, um,

37:21

she was sucking with cream off my toes when we

37:23

were watching and it and she had to stop. It was

37:25

so gross to watch that. It

37:28

ruined Tuesday ritual. But

37:30

I thought he meant that he was he was

37:32

writing that in whipped cream between her

37:35

boobs. Now we know who they belonged

37:37

to. It's a langthy it's a lazy

37:39

whip, but it's worth it.

37:41

Was he writing his initials. I couldn't tell what he was doing.

37:43

He wrote Riley, he did, Okay,

37:46

he did Riley. Yeah,

37:47

I've never felt

37:50

like less of a woman like watching

37:52

that. I'm like watching her execute

37:54

like, I'm like just this sexiest

37:57

Like I was like, I am

38:00

so if you handed me a

38:02

kind of whipped cream and threw me on

38:04

a dirty beach, that

38:06

would you would never get like I just

38:08

like, am I just a completely different

38:10

species? Like what is happening?

38:13

Also fold in that, you know it was

38:15

balmy and muggy, every

38:17

how sweaty. Everyone was at that Rose

38:20

ceremony, which was that night. Yeah,

38:22

so you've got whipped cream, and you know they also got

38:24

a mouthful of like mosquitoes

38:27

attracted to that. She was also like

38:29

a satin dress, so you're like in

38:31

a satin dress, getting like ready

38:33

whip all over. It was

38:36

everyone was so hot that they were like

38:38

wet at the ceremony.

38:41

Danna, how did you feel watching this

38:43

this whip cream extravagance. I mean, I love

38:45

that they're so here for each other, but

38:48

it's like, oh my goodness, yeah,

38:50

not not great. I definitely looked away.

38:53

I couldn't like it. I was like eating and then

38:55

I was like, well that's that. Okay,

38:58

that's not I don't want to and

39:00

so gross, Sandy, I put away

39:02

your baked Alaska. So

39:07

so then there they steal off to like let's go to

39:09

the boom boom room and then like

39:11

they're like, well, this is the best chocolate Sunday

39:13

I've ever had. I mean, they clearly just

39:16

went and they made it seem like they were in there for

39:18

a long time. They edited

39:20

like they just went and like fucked

39:23

for like a while. Because

39:25

well said that there are rose ceremonies

39:28

aren't till like five or six in the morning,

39:30

Like that's why the hosts never host

39:32

them. They don't give out the roses because it's like the

39:34

sun is coming off and so

39:37

you apparently they were just like getting

39:39

at it. And then when she

39:42

stumbled back and somebody wiped

39:44

her face basically of like white cream,

39:47

and she's like, oh, that's whipped. It was just like

39:49

everything just

39:51

like face, like

39:54

don't touch her white the white

39:56

thing on her face, don't touch that. Cool

39:59

up. How did you feel watching all of this?

40:02

I just when when right

40:05

before that was when the other

40:07

two were evicted from the island, and I was like, there's

40:10

still one more hour. I

40:12

know, I know. I was like, wait, but we

40:14

haven't had a rose ceremony in months, Like

40:16

it's been a month since a rose ceremony.

40:18

It's happened, yes, exactly, So I was like,

40:21

what's happening now. I was like, Oh, this is

40:23

what's happening. Yeah, this is what's

40:25

happening. Like bless bless that boom

40:27

boom room and clean it. Clean it by

40:30

cleaning thoroughly. It feels

40:33

like musty, you know what I mean. It feels

40:35

just like it's got like like a

40:38

like a just a dirty

40:40

I bet the smell of it, I bet it's musky,

40:43

like musky in

40:45

a way that's like somebody else's musky

40:48

scent, like other

40:50

people's business. So then

40:53

we find out that it's Tammy's birthday,

40:55

and she

40:58

has one of the best lines that's ever been in

41:00

a script of television, which

41:02

is coming off, which is so good last

41:05

year on my COVID on my birthday,

41:08

and this is ten times worse. That's

41:12

incredible.

41:15

It was so good

41:18

over

41:22

Thomas, over Thomas. Now,

41:26

I mean, okay, we'll get to this. So

41:28

we have um Tammy and Thomas.

41:31

She's like, hey, Thomas, like, look, I'm

41:33

gonna just plumb aside. I just want to get to

41:35

the kids my birthday, Like look, you know, and

41:37

you just tell me what happened. But I just want you to know

41:40

that I'm here for you. You're

41:42

my best friend, Thomas,

41:48

cool Up's face. It

41:51

doesn't have to happen for Thomas to be your

41:53

best friend, cool Up, it was.

41:56

She's a tragic figure, Like

41:58

I didn't know that she would be an archetype. I

42:00

didn't know that that's what was being set up

42:03

for her to say best friend. I

42:05

don't I don't like it when people

42:08

call there the person that were in a relationship

42:11

with as their best friend. My best friend is

42:13

a guy named Phil, you

42:15

know, It's like, no, she

42:17

colops colops, my wife that's

42:19

a different thing, you know, so like stop saying

42:22

that, um, but now

42:24

cool up. How did you feel as an Asian person

42:27

to see Tammy just obliterated

42:29

like that? Did

42:32

you feel like you would have liked to see her continue

42:34

on the show? Absolutely? Of course

42:37

that's so important to me. Asians first,

42:40

um, above all

42:42

Asians first. I

42:44

don't see I see I see people as

42:47

Asian or not Asian. It's

42:49

bad enough they kicked off one, you

42:52

know, the night the week before, but you

42:55

know, then suddenly she's gone. But

42:58

but there was one coming in and

43:01

anesthesiologist who's

43:03

gonna go who's gonna have the highs and loads

43:06

of paradise, and one like t

43:08

g I Friday Dinner is gonna happen

43:10

for him. It's gonna go like high

43:12

high high, and then the bromance

43:15

is going to break his heart. Uh

43:17

so you're my best friend. And then Thomas,

43:19

who I still I'm not sure where I stand

43:22

on He goes, look, I need to

43:24

tell you because he actually has a sweet face

43:26

and a nice smile, Like I still

43:28

think there's no there there with Thomas. He

43:30

goes, look, I need to tell you. It did go

43:32

well with Becca last night. I had

43:35

feelings for someone else last night, and

43:37

I didn't feel guilty about it. And I thought,

43:39

all right, well, it's her birthday, like you

43:41

need to phrase it just like that, Like how

43:44

would you do it? Like happy birthday? By the way,

43:46

happy. I wouldn't add in I didn't feel

43:48

guilty. I would just say, you know what, I did

43:50

have feelings for her. He didn't need to add

43:53

and I, like, I had no problem with it. It's

43:55

not a problem for me. Thomas,

43:58

to me is a weird guy where he like, he

44:00

feels like an android from another

44:02

planet who has been sent down

44:05

to Earth and is put into these situations

44:07

where you see him calculating the odds

44:10

of what he's about to say every time he talks.

44:12

He's like, what do I say in this moment

44:15

to make the other person think I'm good? And

44:17

then he says whatever that is? Uh,

44:20

and so so to me when he was letting her

44:22

down sort of easy. Uh,

44:25

you know, he just he's so passionless

44:27

about it. He's a weird guy. He is

44:29

an odd dude. Kate,

44:32

how do you feel about Thomas? You know, I

44:34

mean, he was such he was the villain

44:36

before so I you know, went

44:38

into it thinking he's the villain, and now I'm

44:40

surprised that I actually think, oh, I

44:42

never even saw him as a cute guy because

44:45

I didn't like him,

44:47

And now I'm like, oh, yeah, no, he's actually

44:49

very attractive. UM,

44:52

like like overwhelming. Sometimes when

44:54

people are so so beautiful, I don't

44:56

see how pretty they are,

44:58

and I think he is one of those people. Um. So

45:00

he's won me over in a lot of ways. Um,

45:03

and I like that he was honest, but again,

45:05

didn't have to be so harsh about it on

45:08

her birthday. I agree with you. I

45:10

also have not seen this beauteo, and I

45:12

will say. Jim Jeffries was

45:15

on and said that that, um,

45:17

Thomas went to one of his comedy

45:19

shows before the season ever aired

45:22

and had the club that he knew

45:24

that Jim as a Bachelor fan, so he

45:26

had the club tell him backstage

45:28

that Thomas from The Bachelor was here

45:31

his season hadn't aired, and Jim was like, well,

45:33

I don't know who that is, but send him back, and he

45:35

said that he and his friend were both like the

45:38

best looking man they have ever

45:40

seen in their lives, that he

45:42

was so fucking handsome. Um.

45:45

Cool, up, I saw that you wanted to say something. I

45:47

think he's a bullshitter. I think

45:49

he to me, he's not

45:51

genuine and

45:54

you can't bullshit bush can't.

45:57

I well, I agree with you, I do

46:00

so. I feel like there's no there there. He feels

46:02

like something like he'll like a scam

46:04

artist, like he'll just say. I wonder if

46:06

if he got into an actual relationship,

46:09

what like a month in would be like

46:11

because he would start getting actually real

46:13

and you would you would see like his opinion,

46:15

his actual opinion on things. Maybe

46:18

I don't know. I don't even know if it exists,

46:20

Like that's a glassiness, there's like a

46:22

glassiness to his eyes and like

46:24

it's like I just feel like he feels like he does, feel

46:26

like a cyborg. Just yes,

46:29

so, which also makes me go, is

46:33

it the problem? Like back up pick Garrett,

46:36

Like it's Becca's picker just so broken

46:38

that she goes from Garrett to Thomas

46:41

Tanna dr Banana? What

46:43

are we looking at here? Yes, she's

46:46

bad at picking men. Thomas

46:48

like yeah, I like you guys were saying, there

46:50

is no I don't know if there's anything behind his

46:53

eyes, Like he's so weird

46:55

to me, I can't handle when he talks and he just

46:57

like knows everything to say.

47:00

Yeah. He feels like a Halloween

47:03

mask where if you were like you see it at a Halloween

47:05

superstore and you're like, is that a real person? Oh no,

47:07

there's nothing behind those eyes. It's just yes, yeah,

47:10

it's yeah. He's I can't because

47:13

everyone's like he's the worst. It's like, well, he's kind

47:15

of pleasant, but but

47:17

I don't feel relaxed, like there's

47:19

something off. He's pleasant in the way that he

47:22

knows he has to be pleasant in order to

47:24

ensnare you. Yeah, it's not genuine.

47:26

So then Tammy starts freaking out

47:29

I want you my life like,

47:31

and then he goes, well, I need to risk

47:34

potential long term future. With Becca,

47:36

um, it feels like a more stable element.

47:39

She's like, I trusted you with everything, and

47:41

then she starts crying. It's like I feel like a fool

47:43

for trusting you, and she's crying

47:46

in her like in her interview, she goes,

47:49

I gave him everything. I'm

47:51

so stupid. Meanwhile,

47:55

Thomas and Becca are kissing. Tammy's

47:58

still crying. She goes, last year, I

48:00

got COVID on my birthday and

48:02

this is ten times words

48:05

incredible. No, Scott,

48:09

what is so special about Becca? I've never

48:12

been able. I didn't like her on her

48:14

season necessarily or not

48:16

not even that as much as I just kind of go like,

48:19

she's just so average

48:21

to me, Like maybe maybe

48:23

it's the same thing as Jim Jeffrey's where if I saw in

48:25

person, I'd be like, oh my god, this is the most beautiful

48:27

woman I've ever seen. But Lance

48:29

Bass. Lance Bass was on that we

48:31

have found because we've met a bunch of the contestants

48:34

that even some of the ones that are

48:36

on air, like the

48:39

sort of seed here of like people

48:41

being interested in them, are so

48:44

shockingly attractive. So

48:47

Lance Lance Bass was on the podcast

48:50

and he said he hung out with Becca

48:52

a little before because they were both like she

48:54

was waiting to go on everybody had to quarantine

48:56

stuff like that, And he said in person,

48:59

she was so gorgeous and she

49:01

was so tall and gorgeous

49:04

that he was He's like, I always thought, you know, she was

49:06

attractive, but he's like, she's like she's

49:08

a fucking knockout in person.

49:11

Okay, I'm going to take Lance Bass's

49:13

word for it, but I

49:15

feel like my harshness there

49:17

you know what I'm saying. He's a guy

49:19

who knows his ladies like

49:25

a cool up, like a cool

49:27

up. Maybe

49:31

she's just like the most beautiful girl next

49:34

door, like something that feels like it

49:37

totally could be true and I but it

49:39

made me feel like Thomas is playing

49:42

like who is He's

49:45

looking at like bachelor at shoots

49:48

and Ladders, Like what's going to give him a ladder

49:50

up? I thought that too. I thought People

49:52

magazine versus like

49:55

obscurity. Yeah,

49:57

so I think, Yeah, I guess

49:59

cool honest say, I'm like, why do I like this season?

50:01

The most part of me feels

50:03

like this is a new era of reality TV?

50:06

Like I worked in reality TV. I was a logger

50:08

for Amy Grants three Wishes, and

50:10

I worked my way up to being

50:13

an associate uh

50:15

associate producer at America's Got Talents.

50:18

But what were her three wishes? Oh?

50:21

So she would grant want to have a TV show?

50:23

Yes, that's right too, to be a good Christian. So

50:28

every episode she would grant three Wishes the

50:33

name she would grant. It took me a second

50:35

again with the pun, Wow,

50:39

that's an incredible I should have

50:41

given I should have listed that as your credit

50:43

that's incredible. How was

50:46

the feed with that? I should it was

50:49

so interesting to to

50:53

be That's where I first learned about frank in bites

50:55

and creating sentences that weren't aren't

50:58

there through just you

51:00

know, audio um and faking

51:03

faking full sentences and stuff like that. So

51:05

for listen, you don't who don't know what

51:07

a franken bite is. It's basically

51:10

basically it's um. You know, you do

51:12

hours and hours of interviews with

51:14

someone and maybe you don't

51:16

get a sentence that you that

51:19

that you need, and so you take the

51:21

from there a apple from

51:24

there. Uh, it sounds like an amazing

51:26

sentence. The apple

51:33

is the apple? Okay, no,

51:35

guys, the apple.

51:39

You manufacture a sentence

51:42

that that person never said in full using

51:45

You hear it a lot on The Bachelor, where they

51:47

usually do it by half a sentence here, half a

51:49

sentence there. So it's like, I think Brendan

51:52

was the worst person ever, you know,

51:55

and you can tell because you can sort of hear

51:57

the edit in the middle of the sentence and wow,

52:00

they just needed for the story that they're writing, but

52:02

this person never said anything like it. So

52:05

the shift in this season what what I

52:08

see is an arrow where people who think

52:10

they have they know the system,

52:13

they they are they're gamers in

52:15

reality TV that the medium

52:17

was like, Nah, we're gonna expose you.

52:20

We're gonna the rules that

52:22

work before. No, you're

52:24

not going to be able to do that. It's like

52:26

like it's like Big Brother kind of constantly always

52:28

shifting, like yeah, I mean everything is

52:30

a reaction to the previous season. So people

52:32

come in going like, Okay, I know I

52:35

have a great strategy this season, and

52:37

then people go like, no, no, we're gonna now we're

52:39

gonna expose you for the con artist

52:41

that you are. You know, It's it's interesting just

52:43

going and be real. That's like the most

52:45

compelling and likable like that

52:47

to me feels like if you actually went in. I

52:51

think the upcoming Bachlorad I'm looking forward

52:53

to her. She she just seemed like a

52:55

real person, and I was

52:57

reminded of it in the teaser last night

53:00

of where she picked up the student's apple this,

53:02

I mean, this is a real interesting apple much.

53:08

Yes, but I'm looking forward to her

53:10

because she seems like she seems real. Well, I

53:12

don't know what we were talking about on our little

53:16

text thread between me and Katie and

53:18

Anna. I was like, clearly

53:20

all the money went like Michelle's promo

53:23

versus Katie's promo, which was her

53:26

and like a Haynes T shirt. Basically

53:29

Yeah, it was like it was just like

53:32

clearly they knew

53:34

they fucked up, that they should have just picked

53:36

Michelle. It seems like all

53:39

the budget went to Michelle's like promo

53:41

along there isn't the basketball hoop.

53:43

It's like made of like diamonds or some crystal,

53:46

like the flower color covered staircase

53:49

in a mansion, like all of it. Meanwhile,

53:51

Katie's at like the like Albuquerque

53:54

High Airport highatt like just you know what I

53:56

mean, like just like waiting on a

53:58

bus. Yeah,

54:02

that promo looks so good.

54:04

I can't wait for that. I

54:06

loved her, Okay. So then meanwhile

54:09

Tammy's freaking out. It's the rose ceremony,

54:11

wells comes out. It's like some people

54:14

were lying to you. That's not okay.

54:17

One person was all in for

54:19

another person who wasn't heir for

54:21

that person, like Polly

54:23

bringing the rose outcomes

54:25

Polly with the tray roses and like Natasha,

54:29

you get another chance at love.

54:32

And she was crying and so beautiful

54:34

and I was so happy for her, Kate, how

54:36

did you feel? Watching it? Made

54:38

me feel like how I used to feel

54:41

when I watched TV as a little kid, because

54:43

I cared so much when I was a

54:45

little kid. And there was a show that I watched called Dr

54:47

Fad and if the if the right person who

54:49

made the right invention one

54:51

I got so happy and that

54:54

same feeling I had last night, and

54:56

I thought, this reminds me of watching Dr FAD.

55:00

I did not expect that as an answer,

55:03

and this spectacular cool. How

55:05

did you feel when beautiful Natasha

55:08

was crying and everyone was sweating

55:10

and they're like, you deserve it. I'm

55:12

so laving at Keith's description, which is

55:15

essentially a return to innocence, feels

55:20

it feels like Kate's d aged by twenty

55:23

years. Right now it started.

55:26

This franchise is all

55:28

I can hear is enigma, like right

55:32

now return.

55:40

I was happy, but then I was still

55:42

a little afraid that he was

55:44

not going to see Natasha's name while she was

55:46

crying. Oh my god, They're like, guess

55:48

so, Kendle, this one's for you, Denny,

55:52

welcome back. Dammy

55:55

Tammy been so elegant welcome back.

55:57

We were laughing because like well comes

56:00

out and he's like, I decided

56:02

this and I decided that. We're like, well,

56:04

you didn't fucking decide anything like

56:06

the producers just said. But Wells is acting

56:09

like he's all big timing. I'm like, this

56:11

was my decision. And at first they

56:13

said no, and I begged him.

56:15

I was like, please please

56:17

let me. I'll suck you dick if you let me do

56:20

this. Please. But and

56:22

then like on Twitter, cool up

56:24

sent me this last night. He's

56:26

still acting like he was the person who decided

56:28

on Twitter because he's like, this is his tweet

56:31

last night. As the bartender. I

56:33

can kick you out as the master

56:35

of ceremonies, I can keep you in.

56:38

Natasha deserves to stay. End

56:40

of story. It's like, come on, Well,

56:42

stop pretending like you were in charge at

56:44

all. You were like pushed out there

56:47

at six in the morning by the producers all

56:49

a frame, going what what what do I say? What do

56:51

I say? Come on, man, I

56:54

just want to say, Natasha hosts

56:57

a Bachelor Nation podcast,

56:59

and I think they protect their own in that

57:01

regard. So I think she got the whole

57:04

ABC's got her back. Was

57:07

on the show last week, so you want to protect him,

57:10

I'm going to call him out. Wait a minute, Wait a

57:13

minute, though, I want to know what do you mean, Like is

57:15

she paid by ABC? She hosts

57:17

Clickbait her Joe and

57:20

I forget who else hosts and Tastia. So

57:22

I think, like, no, I agree with you, Scott,

57:24

because I it's not Wells, it's the entire like

57:27

you know, it's the company being like she's a company

57:29

woman, so she couldn't protected. Well.

57:32

Somebody emailed us, uh, they

57:34

that they thought the whole thing was set

57:36

up to make to like give her more followers.

57:39

Somebody email us that they thought the whole Brandon Piper

57:41

thing was totally just set up

57:44

because she hosts that official podcast.

57:46

Interesting, I didn't know that was an ABC podcast.

57:49

So this was from our listener Kelsey.

57:51

So she said it could like Batchelor Paris

57:54

can help grow contestants platform. She's

57:56

the co host of Clickbait. Um

57:58

it's so it's sponsored, they have money invested.

58:01

So Joe and Tasha both have over a million

58:03

followers and Tasha only had below up two

58:05

hundred thousand. She thinks the powers

58:07

that be in the Bachelor franchise wanted Natasha

58:09

to have a successful paradise to increase

58:11

her following, increase the listeners, and generate more money.

58:14

They thought. The producers caught

58:16

wind of what Brendan and Piper were

58:18

plotting, they steer steered

58:20

Natasha towards sticking

58:22

with Brendan and gave her the quote

58:25

lead edit in order to help boost

58:27

her further. Um, well,

58:29

we did it because she gained I was wrong with more,

58:31

she gained three hundred sixty thou followers,

58:36

do you think that the producers steered her

58:38

towards Brendan intentional? Do you

58:40

think it's that mcavellian that they could

58:43

know? Do you think? I don't? That

58:45

feels like an awful lot of him

58:49

anyway. He's so handsome, he's so

58:52

hand that roofers. Even

58:54

in a mock turtleneck with a necklace over

58:56

it, He's still a handsome guy. Randy

58:58

Kwayde in Christmas Vacation and Style. I

59:02

love that look on him for some reason,

59:04

because like me

59:07

too, I know, I know why is nobody

59:09

going for James. He's also a turtleneck

59:12

and his in a Is his hair too

59:14

tight or his muscles too

59:16

big? Is his shirts too. Can

59:19

we like ruff him up a little, like, get his

59:21

hair a little messy, make his shirts a little

59:23

looser, like he comes he's

59:26

very serious. I feel like I never

59:28

see him being like a little goofy or I don't

59:30

know. He seems very he doesn't seem fun yet

59:33

the rest I want us to give him a podcast

59:35

make up. I feel like we can loosen up James

59:38

and get him more attention from the

59:40

lady. He's too sculpted, he's too

59:42

rigid. I would like to see exactly

59:44

what you're saying, Like a little more grocery

59:46

store Joe, a little more like ripped jeans

59:48

that are actually not purchase ripped, they're actually

59:50

just ripped because they're old, you know, like

59:53

hair up. Must the hair stop waxing?

59:55

The eyebrows so tight? Like also,

59:58

aside from like his looks,

1:00:01

could it be possible that spending eight

1:00:03

hours a day in the gym doesn't make you interesting?

1:00:06

No? No, no, I'm sorry,

1:00:08

I'm sorry. No, No, it's not possible.

1:00:10

It's not possible. It makes you so interesting.

1:00:13

So then we have the Rose ceremony. Riley

1:00:16

goes Marisa, my little

1:00:18

whip cream baby, you

1:00:21

can't And then Joe

1:00:24

gives the rose to Serena and goes

1:00:26

in sickness and in health Wow,

1:00:29

hey Oaks. And then maybe

1:00:33

there was like a cut subplot where she was

1:00:35

sick that night or something like that. It's a weird thing

1:00:37

to say. It's a weird thing to say. And then

1:00:39

the final one, the only one that was up for question

1:00:41

was Aaron feisty,

1:00:43

feisty looking for a fight errand and

1:00:46

he gave it to Chelsea. Meanwhile,

1:00:50

Tammy, just Senia, Demi,

1:00:52

and Deandra all laughed. Tammy

1:00:54

was sobbing. I feel

1:00:57

like an idiot. I followed my heart,

1:00:59

my heart, It's

1:01:01

the worst birthday ever. And then

1:01:03

she shoved a huge cupcake into

1:01:06

her mouth and then while kind of crying, this

1:01:08

is really good and I loved it.

1:01:10

I was here for it. Kate, as

1:01:13

the resident baker of Paradise. Didn't

1:01:15

make you happy to finally see a bait good,

1:01:17

respected and not thrown into a fire.

1:01:20

You know, I couldn't help in that moment.

1:01:22

And I don't know, maybe I'm just making this up,

1:01:24

but I feel like they hand her the cupcake,

1:01:26

they say, wouldn't it be fun to just take a giant

1:01:28

bite out of it? Like sometimes

1:01:31

I see the writings

1:01:33

and um, and in that moment I really did

1:01:35

and I, um, I don't know it, so it

1:01:37

took me out of it. I don't know. I think the cupcake

1:01:39

is like Brendan. It looks so good. I would have taken a

1:01:41

bite out of it too. It was so very good.

1:01:44

I actually also wanted it looked

1:01:46

kind of like a devil's food cake. It looked like I had

1:01:48

like a big like cream filling. It

1:01:50

feels like sort of what Kate made

1:01:52

that. It looks really good. I feel

1:01:54

like you're getting two into conspiracy theories

1:01:56

when you're you're like, why would she bite that

1:01:59

delicious looking Yeah,

1:02:02

she did took a huge bite, though it did

1:02:05

feel like a producer bite. I was like, but

1:02:08

but it didn't make me like her. I mean, I always

1:02:11

liked her, but in that moment, it was really

1:02:13

very funny. And then

1:02:15

we had the soft side of Demi

1:02:17

when we see the real Demi. Demi's crying

1:02:19

in the car, like there's a very soft underbelly

1:02:22

of Demi, and she goes, I'm so Frestra, I'm

1:02:24

so pissed. I'm really am upset

1:02:26

about it. Marian kiss in front of me, just

1:02:28

wait till I'm not working there, And then

1:02:30

Joe said, Demi is probably sad

1:02:33

and I feel for Demi. Wow,

1:02:36

yeah, yeah,

1:02:40

Demi there's a sweet like there's like she's

1:02:42

a lot of bark, and then but she's a soft

1:02:44

day cool up. How did you feel watching

1:02:46

Demi weep in the in the suburban? It's

1:02:49

good to see that side of her, right, of course, don't

1:02:51

want to see anyone's pain, but she Yeah,

1:02:53

she has a very um

1:02:57

she as much as these guys

1:02:59

like they they

1:03:02

craft who they are, you

1:03:04

can't really avoid, like it's

1:03:07

really at some point who you truly

1:03:09

are is going to come forth. And

1:03:11

and I think we

1:03:14

like you when you're vulnerable.

1:03:16

Yeah, the real side, which is what we got Demi last

1:03:19

year Demi two point oh. Now we're back to Demi

1:03:21

three point oh. But we like the soft side. Scott.

1:03:23

I was surprised to see her go because you know, I

1:03:25

don't know what her follower account is, but in my

1:03:27

opinion, she's Bachelor Nation Royalty

1:03:30

because she's she's one of the only people

1:03:32

who has been on other

1:03:34

shows, like she was on the Dating Game, you

1:03:36

know, like they're they're not asking

1:03:38

Aaron to be on the dating game, you know what I mean.

1:03:40

So it's like she seemed to me like one

1:03:43

of those people that the cloud Chasers would

1:03:45

really kind of cling onto. I

1:03:47

wondered if Aaron I was all the producers

1:03:50

would be like, Aaron just picked um, you know what I mean, Like

1:03:52

it's like, like this will help you out.

1:03:54

Yeah, I agree with you, all right, Maybe

1:03:56

she was. She's bad in the boom boom room. I

1:03:59

don't think, Oh, I think you're gonna get a

1:04:01

show. I feel like you're gonna at least have enthusiasm.

1:04:05

I feel like you're talking about yourself right now. Thank

1:04:07

you so much, Thank you so much.

1:04:09

I think you're gonna get enthusiasm. Maybe you're gonna get

1:04:12

him tears or doubling and get him Kettling.

1:04:15

You're gonna get somebody who's real ticklish

1:04:18

and he's the crest Fighter. We're

1:04:21

gonna take a quick break and when we come back,

1:04:23

we're going to talk about the Taddy Daddy

1:04:25

is about to arrive. But

1:04:32

the bones Zone.

1:04:34

Let's get in the bone zone, guys, and

1:04:38

we're back, and we're dealing with the hornyest

1:04:41

horniest Bible study. Go

1:04:43

over this side of of

1:04:46

the Mississippi. Holy cow, I

1:04:48

am here for Tia

1:04:51

and her her description of her,

1:04:53

her lady parts, all of it is fascinating.

1:04:56

Um uh, so we have here

1:04:59

comes. First of all, we're starting out. Riley

1:05:01

is working out in bunny slippers. All the women

1:05:04

are watching him with his action figure arms.

1:05:06

Scott, do you work out in bunny slippers? Oh?

1:05:08

Hell yeah, that's the only way to do it, girl,

1:05:11

you do. Yeah. I can put a bun slip.

1:05:17

I can't work outing out of my butt slips. I

1:05:21

can't. I gotta do it. I can't just do a carry

1:05:23

on. I gotta bring my bondslips. By

1:05:25

the way, I do want to say, it's interesting. We haven't

1:05:27

talked about Noah and Abigail yet because they're

1:05:29

just so boring. Oh my god, they're

1:05:32

so He's grown

1:05:34

on me. But like, yes,

1:05:37

but there's nothing to be said about them there.

1:05:39

They don't do anything interesting. Nothing interesting happens

1:05:41

around them. And it's confusing because I

1:05:43

really liked her on Matt's

1:05:45

season, Like, I thought she was so charming,

1:05:48

and I'm like, she's not bringing I

1:05:50

wonder if they think if while they

1:05:52

were shooting they were like, man, they must be getting

1:05:54

a lot of good footage of us, and then it's

1:05:56

like, not there on the show at all. Yeah,

1:05:59

it's really there's no there's no

1:06:01

crackling heat. There's just like

1:06:03

it's just real vanilla. It's just not

1:06:06

happening. So meanwhile,

1:06:08

here comes Blake. He's like, Hi, I'm

1:06:10

Blake. I was on Claire season,

1:06:12

and I'm sure we were all like who what?

1:06:17

He was handsome, he seemed actually like

1:06:19

a real person. He seemed like, you

1:06:21

know, he felt like a real

1:06:23

dude. He seemed nice. Uh

1:06:26

good hat a hair. TIA's tail is

1:06:28

wagon. Tia is just like she's

1:06:31

going like the tests. It was a taddy Daddy,

1:06:33

Taddy, Daddy, Taddy, daddy, daddy,

1:06:36

daddy to daddy, Daddy's here like the dads

1:06:39

um and she so he pulls tea

1:06:41

aside, and she she she loves

1:06:44

the South. She loves her Bible group,

1:06:46

and she loves tattoos. And she's like,

1:06:48

oh yeah, well I remember her pulling

1:06:50

somebody else aside, and like like the South. I loves

1:06:53

the South. And on this one she's like, yeah,

1:06:55

nashal people natural people

1:06:57

are dope. She's like, well, I already got a how

1:07:00

he'll be near your family. I was like, oh

1:07:02

my god, like pump the Brakes cool

1:07:04

up. How did you feel watching her try to flirt

1:07:06

with the taddy Daddy Blake. I was

1:07:09

thinking about Demi and that she would

1:07:11

have really liked Blake. Blake

1:07:14

doesn't seem cool. I think Demi would only

1:07:16

like someone cool. Really, he

1:07:19

seems nice, which which I think is really

1:07:21

good for Tia because he has had a

1:07:23

horrible a few years. You

1:07:26

know. She was obsessed with Colton, yeah,

1:07:28

you know, and I was happy to see her be with him

1:07:30

because I was like, oh, he just seems like a more of a regular

1:07:33

boring guy, which seems

1:07:35

he seems delightful. I like

1:07:38

that. She she's she's she has no problem

1:07:40

just grabbing bad ass. Oh my god.

1:07:42

So she goes on this date. She goes

1:07:44

on this date and Little John who showed

1:07:47

up and had done like a dude,

1:07:49

and then watching Noah do

1:07:52

the yeah at little John was

1:07:54

somebody tweeted us it was like that was

1:07:56

that Noah doing Howard

1:07:59

Dean impression. We're

1:08:03

gonna go We're gonna win the private So

1:08:08

then can I just say, by the way,

1:08:10

little John was on my television show and it was

1:08:12

one of the most delightful guests that we had

1:08:14

on the show and one of the best episodes of this show.

1:08:16

And he was just so game and so great for everything.

1:08:19

I I'm delighted when I see him on my television.

1:08:21

Oh I love that. I I mean, that's

1:08:23

everything that you want to hear. I love that

1:08:26

so he I love Imagine

1:08:28

imagine getting brought into the woods

1:08:30

in Mexico and you don't know what you're doing.

1:08:32

It outcomes a dune buggy being driven

1:08:35

by little John. You're like, basically

1:08:38

in my mind, that's like bucket list,

1:08:40

like check check, check of like this

1:08:43

is who I am now, Like this is what I

1:08:45

do know? Scott, how did you feel when that happened

1:08:47

to you? Oh yeah, he brought

1:08:49

the dune buggy and we went into the woods

1:08:51

on my show as well, and it was just it was incredible.

1:08:55

Everything I wanted sounds incredible.

1:08:58

And then so all she kepting like I am

1:09:00

so excited, Like did you did you guys

1:09:02

know that she loves tattoos. I don't think she said

1:09:04

that she loves tattoos. Does Colton have

1:09:07

tattoos? I don't remember that being such a big

1:09:09

part of her personality. Oh my god, she's like,

1:09:11

so horny for tattoos. So then they're chatting

1:09:13

afterwards and their hands

1:09:15

are on on their other legs. She and

1:09:17

he's like, I want you to feel like you

1:09:19

can tell me anything. And

1:09:21

then she and the like, do you think you can only have one

1:09:24

soul mate? She's like, well, I used

1:09:26

to think that, but like, I also think it's like based

1:09:28

on when you meet, you know, dating

1:09:30

you makes me feel hopeful that we could date in

1:09:32

the real world. And then they kissed

1:09:35

and she's like, I feel like I've known him for a

1:09:37

long time. And then they kissed in the shower and

1:09:39

to your point, she grabbed that ass

1:09:43

she grabbed at us. Kate,

1:09:45

talk to me, I feel like it's a great match.

1:09:48

I'm very excited for them. I think that they

1:09:50

could take this into the real

1:09:53

world. I don't know. I'd be very curious to see what actually

1:09:55

happens. But I

1:09:57

was really happy for her and they you

1:09:59

know, she seemed very into him,

1:10:02

and so did the cows. And

1:10:05

when she was when I agree with you,

1:10:07

I feel like they're a great match. I was actually

1:10:09

like, they're gonna get married. This is it?

1:10:12

Which is her guy? She goes,

1:10:14

he makes my vagina dance ladies,

1:10:17

She goes, I feel my vagina dancing.

1:10:19

I'm ovulating right now. Um,

1:10:22

if there's any way I could get pregnant, I would

1:10:24

be pregnant by immaculate conception.

1:10:27

The whole thing is like she

1:10:30

after we heard last week about her China

1:10:32

Pot, which was banana pants, one

1:10:35

of our listeners emailed in Elina Chun.

1:10:38

She says China pot input because

1:10:40

we were like, I felt like I didn't

1:10:42

really I didn't know what she was talking about. It

1:10:44

felt a little nerve wracking hearing her say

1:10:46

that, I was like, is this a phrase? She

1:10:49

wants to say? She thinks

1:10:51

that as an Asian woman, she was so put

1:10:53

off by this term. She thought it was cringe worthy

1:10:56

coupled with her purity vibe. Um,

1:10:58

she just hated it. She hated it. She wanted

1:11:01

to throw in her input as an Asian woman

1:11:03

viewer listener who's obsessed. She thought

1:11:05

it was offensive and impoor taste and

1:11:08

uh, yeah, has anybody

1:11:10

heard this phrase? Like, how do you guys feel

1:11:12

about this? What's the phrase? Again? She

1:11:15

kept her China pot.

1:11:19

What I don't know, I don't what

1:11:22

is that? I've never heard it? Neither

1:11:25

I mean other than a vegina. You

1:11:27

know, it's your china pot doesn't

1:11:30

when it's ready. I don't know. Is

1:11:32

it something that's it's fragile,

1:11:35

it's delicate. She was saying that Kenny

1:11:38

couldn't It was when it was when they were doing

1:11:40

nude volleyball. She was worried about

1:11:42

you have to save your china pot and you can't see

1:11:45

her china pot. And then now

1:11:47

she's talking about her vagina dance, like I think she's

1:11:49

had very very strange sex

1:11:52

education. Maybe I don't I hear

1:11:55

what Alina saying. I just was like,

1:11:57

this is the folksy thing she's saying. I

1:11:59

feel like you're maybe right that she's likening

1:12:01

it to find china. I didn't put

1:12:04

I didn't put that together before that. I think I

1:12:06

thought, I think china pot. It

1:12:08

sounds

1:12:13

yeah, But I mean I think I think maybe what she's thinking

1:12:15

of. And I don't presume to tell her

1:12:17

what she's thinking, but like when you hear china pot

1:12:19

is like a certain type of like pot that you cook

1:12:21

Chinese food in or something like that, that's

1:12:24

I don't know. Maybe I I have no idea

1:12:27

about I didn't

1:12:29

really understand what she was trying to say, Okay, okay,

1:12:32

I didn't enjoy. I did enjoy the

1:12:34

vagina dance. I mean no,

1:12:36

I believe somebody else has talked about

1:12:39

vaginas dancing on this I believe

1:12:41

talking about kissing Nick Vale.

1:12:44

Was there somebody was talking about their vagina dancing

1:12:46

it was it was Raven talking about because she's also

1:12:49

from the same town in Arkansas.

1:12:52

I think maybe Raven

1:12:54

talked about nick Vale making

1:12:56

her vagina No Alexis

1:12:58

Alexis the dolph been Shark

1:13:01

talked about her vagina dancing because

1:13:04

I want I want us all those

1:13:07

who have vagina's to dance.

1:13:11

I want it dance.

1:13:18

Can I say, like the whole d V

1:13:20

A

1:13:20

A I

1:13:23

and and but you

1:13:30

can badge if you want to. You

1:13:33

can leave your poon behind because poon

1:13:35

don't dance. And if you don't dance, your

1:13:37

badge is no friend of mine. It's

1:13:39

right next to your behind. Um.

1:13:44

The whole soulmate thing, yeah,

1:13:47

Like okay, First of all, soul nate is like a bullshit

1:13:49

term that just that, like people started

1:13:51

using twenty years ago or something in flame

1:13:54

like me and you yeah you guys, No,

1:13:57

But I mean the whole idea of like having more

1:14:00

than one soul mate is like so

1:14:02

stupid, Like, oh I would have I would

1:14:04

have said no a year ago, but now I think you can have

1:14:07

five soul mates. No, just there are people you like, it's

1:14:09

not a you know, come on yeah

1:14:12

to inflame. So I

1:14:14

mean I felt like, can

1:14:17

you have more than one twin brother? No?

1:14:21

I think that they are. Actually I

1:14:24

feel like I feel like they actually

1:14:26

make I think she's gonna be so horny

1:14:29

for him, but she probably won't do it without

1:14:31

a ring. I feel like there's actually

1:14:33

a chance that Neil Lane is coming

1:14:35

with a promise ring or something like a virgin.

1:14:38

I don't know, do we know if she's a virgin Tanna? I

1:14:41

don't think she is now. I really

1:14:43

just googled it and I can't

1:14:46

find any infho she is. I don't think she is

1:14:48

either. But the way she talks about her vagina, but she

1:14:50

kept saying like nobody's gonna see it.

1:14:52

No, he's gonna That's what made me google

1:14:54

is like She's like you can't see it. It's like, well, how

1:14:57

how are you having sex? Like that doesn't

1:14:59

he may not, I may say

1:15:01

definite information of ships. Wait, what did

1:15:03

you did you just google Vagina? Yeah,

1:15:07

I got some really interesting I

1:15:12

was. I was excited for them. Meanwhile,

1:15:15

I forgot that she was even with James,

1:15:17

that James was the person. So poor

1:15:19

James is back just like eating

1:15:22

eating like chips and GUACAMOLEI pouting.

1:15:24

Well, everyone around him is having the

1:15:26

grossest kisses around. Kenny

1:15:29

and Marie making out

1:15:31

in the hot tub, the grossest kiss

1:15:33

I have ever seen, Speaking of gaslighting

1:15:36

people, Mari come on like,

1:15:39

I know you talked about I know you talked about

1:15:41

it. But for her for her to not only

1:15:43

convince him but also

1:15:45

herself that that's not what

1:15:47

she did. She broke up with him,

1:15:49

She broke up with him to other people, Chasen,

1:15:52

she wanted to go, she wanted to say yes to Chase

1:15:55

it yes, And so for her to

1:15:57

be like convincing

1:15:59

her self even that that wasn't what happened,

1:16:02

is just really disturbing. I agree with

1:16:04

you, She's not good enough for my Kenny.

1:16:06

And then Kenny goes they

1:16:08

say, I feel like we're leaving here together, and he's like,

1:16:11

I have never felt this way before,

1:16:13

and then he goes, should we go? Laid

1:16:15

down, and then all of them watch them go to the boom

1:16:17

boom room and said, we're about to go make a paradise

1:16:20

baby, and then somebody goes, oh, Riley's

1:16:23

going to be so pissed because they're taking the boom

1:16:25

boom room. And then we watched them like hands

1:16:28

and things go under the sheets club.

1:16:30

How did you feel watching that? I was like,

1:16:32

this is a porn. Yeah, and that's

1:16:34

when I was like, they have so much footage

1:16:37

of these people having sex. Yes, there's just

1:16:39

and will they send it to us? Yes?

1:16:42

And this is my formal request to the

1:16:44

Bachelor Nation. Yeah, it's

1:16:47

your decision send us the porn

1:16:50

or not. I want to know

1:16:52

what Wells must have seen it? Right? You

1:16:55

know, Wells is cranking it to all this stuff

1:16:57

like he's a boom boom room footage. Isn't

1:17:00

a producer. That's the

1:17:02

whole reason he does the gig. He's like,

1:17:04

look all ten bar for one hour a night,

1:17:06

as long as you let me crank it to boom boom room crank.

1:17:09

They said that Marissa has started

1:17:11

just leaving her stuff up there, Kate,

1:17:16

how do you feel hearing that? Well? I just like

1:17:18

I was saying earlier, I was very confused, like,

1:17:20

is there just one boom boom room? Like

1:17:23

are they knocking? Like, hey, you've almost done, because

1:17:25

we want to go next, Like is there a line

1:17:27

at this point because there are so many couples?

1:17:30

Uh? Is it the only place that they can

1:17:32

go to have sex? Katie Levine,

1:17:35

I see lening Forward talk to us, So I'm

1:17:37

pretty sure it is the only one. Maybe they added

1:17:39

a second one, but for them saying that Marissa was leaving

1:17:41

her stuff that it makes me think it's the only one. But a

1:17:44

couple of seasons ago, they showed like a

1:17:46

little argument between two couples

1:17:48

where they were like, dude, you had the

1:17:50

boom Boom room last night, we wanted this night,

1:17:52

we wanted today, and there was like an

1:17:54

argument between them about who there's a backup?

1:17:57

So it sounds like there's one disgusting

1:17:59

like fuck fest room. I

1:18:02

hope there's a window. It

1:18:04

feels dank in there. Dr

1:18:07

Banana talked to us, how dank

1:18:09

is it in there? Dr Banana? I don't know. I

1:18:11

don't know who changes the sheets between

1:18:15

do they do they change the in

1:18:17

COVID? Like what poor

1:18:19

person has to change as

1:18:22

to how

1:18:25

that designed p A is assigned

1:18:28

that Oh my god, you're right, would

1:18:31

be the art department. How does get

1:18:34

a black light? Does it look like the

1:18:36

right color? Oh my god,

1:18:38

what art department person has

1:18:41

to deal with that? Gross.

1:18:45

So then meanwhile, Natasha is

1:18:47

sad that she's here. They're sad music,

1:18:50

but all of a sudden, it's like happy music, and

1:18:52

we see, like the birds are saying, we get hero music

1:18:55

is coming, like your Prince Charming is

1:18:57

coming to Tasha, don't be sad. And

1:19:00

then incomes Dr

1:19:02

Joe. He's an anesthesiologist.

1:19:05

Um and I remember him.

1:19:07

He got like he was like people

1:19:09

really loved Dr Joe. He was he

1:19:11

was in the Covid wards. He's a sweetheart

1:19:14

and um so so he's

1:19:17

like, he pulls Natasha aside to

1:19:19

chat. They had a hard year,

1:19:21

they're both not on the apps. Um

1:19:24

he they were joking, I've been on the sauce for a

1:19:26

while. Um. And

1:19:29

so they he asked Natasha

1:19:31

out and they go and they have the world's largest

1:19:34

Margarita's. And I

1:19:36

was so jealous at this point. I mean, you

1:19:39

know, like you guys are talking about being horny watching

1:19:41

the sex. I was like, look at

1:19:43

those big drinks. Oh I

1:19:45

was I had one right now. It really

1:19:48

did look good. Yes, that

1:19:50

in the cupcake, and then Riley's

1:19:52

cake that got thrown in the fire. I wanted

1:19:55

all those. I wanted the fire

1:19:57

cake. I wanted the cupcake. I want

1:19:59

their break for this. I want their like taco breakfast.

1:20:02

I know when they were talking about like you'll

1:20:04

bring me bacon in the morning or something. I was like, oh, that's

1:20:06

so cool that like there's like an actual like buffet

1:20:09

or something that sounds fun from

1:20:13

the from the previous seasons that that one.

1:20:15

I want Riley's spaghetti. Right he's

1:20:18

down and he's like carbloading to

1:20:21

go back to the boom boom room and have like

1:20:23

a session. I

1:20:26

gotta say, well, so is the food is delicious?

1:20:28

Um? So then uh so here

1:20:30

comes so So they're they're both having their

1:20:33

giant margarita glasses. He learned

1:20:35

Spanish. She's like, you look beautiful tonight,

1:20:37

and then she's like, oh my god, there's a bug. They switch glasses.

1:20:39

He takes the bug hit and um

1:20:42

She's like, look, I'm just clear on what I want.

1:20:44

I wasn't getting it, so maybe I would

1:20:46

come to this wild place. So then

1:20:49

they're really hitting it off. They're really

1:20:51

having like he's adorable, he's

1:20:53

smart, he seems to have a personality like they

1:20:55

seem to actually be having a nice date,

1:20:58

like a successful blind eight.

1:21:00

And we hear, meanwhile

1:21:03

buzzing back at the ranch that Dr

1:21:05

Joe and Brendan our bf

1:21:07

apps and they're like, we hope she doesn't

1:21:10

bring it up. Every time you hear

1:21:12

somebody say I hope this doesn't

1:21:14

happen, it means it's about to happen. So

1:21:17

then so then they're like she

1:21:19

They're like, he goes, wow, I just can't

1:21:21

believe, like at this point, like you're such a catch,

1:21:24

how could you not be attached?

1:21:27

She's like, and she tries it first, she's like, you know

1:21:29

what, I don't want to go into detail. Um,

1:21:32

She's like, you know, it just was not

1:21:35

great. And I have to say there was a person

1:21:37

here who just really ruined the experience for

1:21:39

me. And he's like, who was it. She's

1:21:41

like, it was Brendan, and he goes, Brendan,

1:21:45

My Brendan really heard

1:21:48

my my Brendan.

1:21:50

He goes, Brendan, my Brendan, Brendan's

1:21:53

my boy. I love Brendan. It

1:21:56

had to be Brendan. Really, it's Brendon's

1:21:58

my my Brendon. Well,

1:22:01

I mean, I just He's like, well

1:22:03

I think you're beautiful. Um, you know,

1:22:05

I want to let it rod and be. But his

1:22:07

whole energy changed, and because he

1:22:10

kept going, he you know, let's head back. But just

1:22:12

off, everybody's ironic. It had to be

1:22:14

Brendon. Had to be Brendon. Okay, you're

1:22:17

beautiful, You're so beautiful. But Brandon, Brenda,

1:22:20

I mean, cool

1:22:22

up. How did you feel like when you saw I felt

1:22:25

for her? Why did they do that to her? Why did

1:22:27

they give her Brendan's best friend? It

1:22:29

was heartbreak I that I was like, she

1:22:31

doesn't like she really doesn't suck, and

1:22:34

for her just I mean,

1:22:36

first of all, as a former producer

1:22:38

of reality TV, the footage of

1:22:40

just like him trying his face

1:22:43

everything that was happening behind his eyes was

1:22:45

fan fantastic doing

1:22:48

math. He yeah, she was like, did you

1:22:50

know? Did you know that they were seeing each

1:22:52

other? Of course he did. Of

1:22:55

course he did. Brandon,

1:22:59

it's my boy, my brand, my Brendan.

1:23:01

When he was like, you know what, let's let it roll,

1:23:04

I was like, dude, Oh, I

1:23:07

was like Natasha, no, because

1:23:09

he's like, I'm gonna pick Brendan like,

1:23:12

and the producers are so mean. They

1:23:14

just gave her special rose from

1:23:16

PAULI just to bring

1:23:18

in Bendon's Brenda's best friend, who's

1:23:20

like a good guy, Katie.

1:23:23

I see you wanted to get in there. I know you're having

1:23:25

feelings talk to us. Well, then this kind of goes

1:23:27

against our theory that the producers are protecting

1:23:29

her, helping her along the way

1:23:32

right to wear Then, I

1:23:35

my my theory was that the producers

1:23:37

were trying to get them to have a story

1:23:39

book fairy tale ending. Actually

1:23:42

because he went

1:23:44

in and this maybe the edit, but

1:23:46

it seemed like he had no eyes

1:23:48

for anyone but Natasha, which I think is a little

1:23:51

weird when there's, you know, so

1:23:54

many women there that he just like be

1:23:56

made a bee line for Natasha, which she's great

1:23:59

or whatever. I feel you're the only available

1:24:01

one everything. Yeah, so it

1:24:03

seemed like there was a little conversation beforehand

1:24:05

of life was really

1:24:07

the only one who's available here? Uh,

1:24:11

you know, are you interested in her? Yeah?

1:24:13

Totally, you know, so I think they were trying to hook him

1:24:15

up actually, just and Natasha, she

1:24:18

said, like, I know, she's

1:24:20

like Brendan was excited to see you,

1:24:22

like she knew of their relationship prior.

1:24:25

So it's like it's

1:24:28

hard to Also, I just feel like she

1:24:31

she said, how

1:24:33

do you You couldn't get out of that story like it

1:24:35

was going to come out at some point and soon,

1:24:37

and so even though we were having a great time,

1:24:40

I thought, well, it's maybe good. Like

1:24:42

she didn't like get into detail. It was such

1:24:44

an animost you know, the

1:24:46

thing that she said. You know, it wasn't like but it

1:24:48

was still a huge, a huge

1:24:51

bomb from him, I guess, you know, elegant

1:24:54

about but it was still like, but

1:24:56

I my loyalty is obviously to my best

1:24:59

friend. It's just like Tammy would always Thomas,

1:25:01

what is his issue with it? Though? Just he

1:25:03

doesn't want to be dipping in the same pool

1:25:06

or I think it's also like I'm

1:25:08

not going to trash Brendan. Brendan is my boy,

1:25:10

Like I'm not going to ever agree with

1:25:13

you that Brendan de villain, Like I'm sure

1:25:15

you had your beef with him, but like I got my boys

1:25:17

back. That's my best friend. Are

1:25:19

they even friends? It it seems

1:25:21

to me like this guy like idolizes

1:25:24

Brendan and it's maybe not reciprocated.

1:25:27

No, I mean he said um

1:25:30

uh. Natasha said that that Brendon

1:25:32

was excited for him to come. Their friends.

1:25:34

The other guys were like, they're very close, they're friends.

1:25:37

I've looked on their Instagrams and they've posted videos

1:25:39

and photos together. Ah God,

1:25:41

and Joe's so sweet, So like, why

1:25:43

is if? That makes me

1:25:45

wonder like, was Brendan

1:25:48

wants? This was Brendan maybe actually

1:25:50

a sweetie pie who completely

1:25:52

drank his own kool aid, like getting

1:25:55

some Instagram Maybe he must have been a nice

1:25:57

guy. I don't feel like Dr Joe would hang out with a

1:25:59

douche bag like and then it all

1:26:01

went to his head. Like maybe

1:26:03

he was nice on Tatious season. I

1:26:06

think he and Piper just thought they

1:26:08

were more clever than they are. But him

1:26:11

being mean to Natasha, that's

1:26:14

the aspect. That's the aspect

1:26:16

that's like not a good guy that I don't get,

1:26:19

Dana, what is what do you think? Dan? Yeah?

1:26:22

I mean I think I think

1:26:24

it's more that like they almost

1:26:26

wanted Natasha to just like deal with

1:26:28

it and not be like going around and talking

1:26:30

about it so much. I think it's so much like him.

1:26:34

It was making Brendan angry because you

1:26:36

know, you guys were saying earlier, like he wasn't able to

1:26:38

do exactly what he wanted and get away with it,

1:26:40

and the fact that Natasha was not giving him

1:26:42

that like space to like have his relationship

1:26:45

with Piper. I could see him getting angry or

1:26:47

and angrier about it, but I think he was just an asshole.

1:26:49

And then like seeing what's

1:26:52

his name, Dr Joe God

1:26:54

the allegiance, It's like, we get it. You guys were

1:26:56

trapped in a Palm Springs hotel

1:26:58

like your friends, but like that

1:27:00

you can't like under like you

1:27:02

can't have empathy for someone like

1:27:05

Natasha, who I

1:27:07

don't know, but maybe he also like

1:27:09

doesn't even believe it because he's

1:27:11

so you know, has

1:27:13

such allegiance to Brendan that he's

1:27:16

my boy. That's my boy. He wouldn't act

1:27:18

like that, so my Brendon act

1:27:22

so she must be crazy. When you talk about

1:27:24

Phil, do you call him my Phil? My

1:27:26

philm of course, my Phil,

1:27:30

my Phil. What's Phil's last name? Scott?

1:27:34

If you so

1:27:39

here we come. We're coming onto the greatest

1:27:41

final story of the evening.

1:27:44

We start with Kendall. Kendall's

1:27:46

freaking out. But first we have the Michelle

1:27:48

promo, which is incredible. Um

1:27:51

and uh, we see Joe

1:27:53

and Serena are flirting on the on

1:27:55

the beach and he set up a little picnic

1:27:57

for her and he goes, Um,

1:28:00

my biggest turn off for girl is

1:28:02

a messy eater. I gotta

1:28:04

say he could never date me. Then I'm a fucking

1:28:06

monster, an animal. Look at

1:28:09

Scott. Look at Scott's getting kissed us

1:28:11

from his phone. Oh my dog, a

1:28:13

little bit a little

1:28:15

love. I mean,

1:28:18

I'm a messy eater. Cool up? Are you a messy

1:28:20

eater? Scott? Uh

1:28:24

No, I don't think so. I don't know. Kat.

1:28:27

Are you a messy eater? I don't, I

1:28:29

don't. I haven't been told I am so. I

1:28:31

don't know. But sometimes you

1:28:33

ever just think? Can you believe we all eat

1:28:35

in public and don't think about it? Yeah?

1:28:38

I know, I am officially

1:28:40

a messy eater. I'm messy. I spill

1:28:43

ship on myself. I believe that

1:28:45

we all like masturbated alleys.

1:28:49

Scott, Scott, Scott,

1:28:52

Scott, edit that out?

1:28:55

Scott, consist you keep it in?

1:28:57

Can you get that an audiogram and post?

1:29:01

Scott, don't make our vagina

1:29:04

dance during the podcast place, I

1:29:09

was like, vagina, don't remember when she was talking

1:29:11

about her vagina dancing, and then all, I'm from the cow

1:29:13

mood and she was like, see every

1:29:15

time her vagina dances a cow moose, it's

1:29:19

a wonderful life. It's a wonderful life.

1:29:21

So then, um, so then she's all excited.

1:29:24

She's like, I like in her interview, like I

1:29:26

like being around him. Serena

1:29:28

is so cute. She's like,

1:29:30

I like being around him. I'm not ready

1:29:32

to say the l world, but I'm getting

1:29:34

there. Um, She's like

1:29:37

and so meanwhile, Kendall's freaking

1:29:39

out watching all of this. So it's

1:29:41

hard. Being an ex on the beach is hard, Like

1:29:43

it's uncomfortable, it's hard to move forward while

1:29:46

I'm focused on my past. Meanwhile, Serena

1:29:48

and Joe are just fucking making out,

1:29:51

like four feet away. Well, she's got the treasure

1:29:54

that is Ivan right next to her. Like

1:29:56

I've been such a catch and

1:29:59

no one is going for I

1:30:01

just send me a bluett like to

1:30:03

me, I even should be a hot commodity

1:30:05

on the Beach's an engineer, he's hot,

1:30:08

he's a nice guy, like what's the problem.

1:30:10

But that's the problem. He's nice.

1:30:13

He's nice. People want to be treated

1:30:16

like shite. True story,

1:30:18

not me. What

1:30:21

I've doing it wrong this whole time,

1:30:24

Scott, we brought you here. You've got to be nice to

1:30:27

You've got to be nice. You've got to stop masturbating

1:30:30

an athletes. You've got to be years

1:30:33

of marriage. I finally don't

1:30:35

want to say anything. I want my friends to say it to look

1:30:37

she we brought you to this podcast to

1:30:40

say, finally, stop it, Scott, that

1:30:42

we're married. By the way, on this show, I don't know

1:30:45

if I

1:30:47

suddenly started getting self conscious, like people

1:30:49

aren't gonna understand why, no, they're married.

1:30:51

So then they go to the picnic blanket Joe set

1:30:53

up um and then he's

1:30:56

like it, says to the interview, like I feel like this

1:30:58

relationship is real. I feel like she's my girl friend.

1:31:00

And he's like, I like doing nice things.

1:31:03

I'm a blast, and he's like, please,

1:31:05

you've been a dune since you've got here. I like

1:31:07

their banter. I like this sort of kind

1:31:10

self deprecating kind the kind

1:31:12

nagging, and I like I like the relationship

1:31:15

because you know, she she was

1:31:17

kind of a hot commodity going into this where a lot

1:31:19

of people were interested, and so I was like,

1:31:21

poor Joe doesn't stand a chance. He's

1:31:23

too much of an adult. She's young. And

1:31:26

the fact that they just glond onto each other and like

1:31:28

each other and are having a good time. I enjoy

1:31:31

it, I love it. I'm here for it.

1:31:33

So then she goes, I think I like you

1:31:36

more than you like me. And then

1:31:38

she smiles. She's like, I'm gonna tell you something,

1:31:40

but I don't know how. Um, I

1:31:42

don't know how you're gonna respond. He's like, well just

1:31:44

say. She goes, so I should. This is so cute. I should

1:31:47

just shoot my shot, which

1:31:49

is so cute. I feel like she played sports.

1:31:51

I loved it. And she goes, I'm falling

1:31:53

in love with you, and then he immediately at least

1:31:55

in the editing, goes, I'm falling in love with you too.

1:31:58

She goes, really no way,

1:32:00

the cutest. She was so

1:32:02

happy and like cheering for herself.

1:32:05

I love it. I loved

1:32:07

it, and this is why we also love

1:32:09

This is another reason we love Paradise.

1:32:12

She goes, I'm giddy, high risk,

1:32:14

high reward. Meanwhile,

1:32:17

Kendall goes, it's hard to see him so

1:32:19

happy. It's heartbreaking, but the

1:32:21

spark has happened here. And then Ivan

1:32:24

like you want to catch and she's like no, no,

1:32:27

and then she like storms off to like

1:32:29

is she leaving? She's like, I feel

1:32:31

really just out from everyone. Um,

1:32:34

and then she's crying and

1:32:36

then, uh, let's talk about so all

1:32:38

of this. I was so happy for

1:32:41

Serena and Joe, and I thought, Kendall,

1:32:43

what are you doing here? You came in second?

1:32:46

Just let Joe have this season. Kate,

1:32:48

how did you feel about all of this? Well,

1:32:51

I mean it is sort of strange how close

1:32:53

everybody is to each other when these things

1:32:55

are happening. So all making out on

1:32:57

the same day bed there's like two couples just

1:33:00

making out on one day, and then there's like just a bunch

1:33:02

of other people watching, and it's like it's

1:33:04

very strange. It's like a sport or something.

1:33:07

Um. And so that, I mean, I don't know why she

1:33:09

was torturing herself, Like I don't think

1:33:11

I could put myself in that position. I would just go

1:33:13

to a different part of the beach, you know. Um, But

1:33:16

I uh, you know, I feel

1:33:20

for her, But she definitely put herself

1:33:22

on. You know, she knew what she was getting.

1:33:24

Well, maybe she may have thought that when she got

1:33:26

to Paradise that she and Joe would be reunited. I

1:33:28

actually think maybe that was in her mind.

1:33:31

And how happy for Serena were you

1:33:34

when he said I love you too and she

1:33:36

said really, no way. I felt like I was watching Dr

1:33:38

Fed when I was a kid. Yeah,

1:33:42

Scott Ackerman, I

1:33:44

think it's hard to take anything Kendall says seriously

1:33:46

because she's so Canadian. You

1:33:49

know, It's like she's always like and

1:33:51

then I saw Joe and then he

1:33:53

kissed Kendall and then I went over

1:33:55

on the beach and I did this. It's

1:33:57

like, come on, Kendall, Serena's Canadian

1:34:00

because Serena is also Canadian. What Yeah,

1:34:04

I actually think Kendall's from Venice Beach

1:34:08

Canadian? Is Kendall Canadian?

1:34:10

Tanna? No, she's from l A. Member she won't

1:34:13

move to Chicago. Why

1:34:16

she lived in l A. But she's

1:34:19

from A. Remember, her family's from the

1:34:21

valley. So yeah, they had like a room

1:34:23

at her hometown date with Ari, she

1:34:25

had eating room. This is surprising

1:34:27

to me because maybe her parents are Canadian

1:34:29

because She's just got such a Canadian vibe.

1:34:34

This go come up? How into

1:34:36

How excited were you for Serena with

1:34:39

her? Really? No way, I'm falling in love with you

1:34:41

too, I found I find them

1:34:43

both very charming in their relationship. Charming.

1:34:45

It's Kendall. I'm just like

1:34:48

Kendra. No, Kendall, sorry,

1:34:51

And I feel the same as Kate. It's

1:34:53

like it maybe yeah,

1:34:56

the buds will

1:34:58

Serena moved to chick ag because

1:35:01

that's one prerequisite with Chicago,

1:35:04

Joe, you know what she might.

1:35:06

I feel like she's young enough that maybe

1:35:09

her whole life, she's at the age

1:35:12

when you can just sort of move around

1:35:14

and be like, I'm gonna give Chicago a truck. She's twenty

1:35:16

three, so like it's

1:35:18

a good time to go try another city?

1:35:21

Is that twenty three? I truly think Kendall

1:35:23

wants to be a major

1:35:25

Instagram influencer and needs to be in l

1:35:27

A to do it. And it's like, I'm not going to move to Chicago.

1:35:30

And that's also why she came back maybe on the

1:35:32

show um

1:35:34

and then and then ending off with Aaron

1:35:37

giving his facts like fact fact,

1:35:39

fact, and then I only the only one, I wrote down

1:35:42

is Thomas is a big body trash

1:35:44

can. His obsession with Thomas is

1:35:46

never ending, always always

1:35:49

a journey. What an episode?

1:35:51

Can you even handle yourself?

1:35:56

Um? Too much? I can't. You're

1:35:58

too much cool up? I mean and overall

1:36:00

what I just could not be more delighted?

1:36:03

Um, Any final thoughts before we go

1:36:05

into tweet of the week. I'll

1:36:07

have final thoughts. I'm gonna wait

1:36:10

for them till after tweet of the week. Okay, it's

1:36:12

important, so you can here's where you're

1:36:14

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1:36:16

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1:36:18

there will be? Yeah, so

1:36:20

that would be my and who do you think they will be? Okay?

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He put a tracking device on her car.

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I've been thinking about it, and I can

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right, and I'm not gonna you

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know. I was happy for him that he's

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I'm happy for him that he's able to be out

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um, those were behaviors

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I apologize, and and I

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heard Yellow Cards Ocean Avenue

1:38:37

album when I was thirteen did

1:38:39

I believe it was even possible. Now

1:38:42

I know, so thank you crew, guests,

1:38:45

Arden, and of course the tweet Dr

1:38:47

Banana for giving us the hope we've been

1:38:49

looking for. Wow, Katie,

1:38:51

Wow, what a throwback from my middle school

1:38:53

or maybe I was in high school experience when

1:38:55

that song came out. By the way, it makes

1:38:58

me want to like go relisten right now. It

1:39:00

fully makes me want to go real listen.

1:39:03

Um. Absolutely, what a nice review,

1:39:05

too great throw a really beautiful

1:39:08

review. We cannot thank you enough, but

1:39:10

we h. I felt

1:39:12

so touched and so honored

1:39:15

to receive truly such a gorgeous

1:39:17

review, Katie, did you enjoy it? I loved

1:39:19

it? I thought that was great. We got a

1:39:21

really fun email and if you guys want to email

1:39:24

us, you can email us at Rose podcast at gmail

1:39:26

dot com. Dr Banana's in right now. Okay,

1:39:28

you guys are gonna love this. This subject is Firecake

1:39:33

is from a listener named Lily hi

1:39:36

Arden, Anna, and Katie. First,

1:39:38

the podcasts continue to be amazing. It truly

1:39:40

delights me to listen to you when your guest break down the Bachelor

1:39:42

franchise episodes with such sincerity and humor.

1:39:45

Listening to educated adults give so much

1:39:47

thought to Bachelor in Paradise honestly

1:39:49

speaks to my soul. Thank you for sharing

1:39:51

and spreading happiness week after week. That will you accept?

1:39:54

This Rose team truly gives joy to many

1:39:56

people. Well, thank you, Lily. And this is where

1:39:58

it gets amazing. Now onto

1:40:00

the important thing. Arden repeatedly

1:40:02

mentions her desire to stick a fork into

1:40:04

Marie's ill fated fire cake, and

1:40:06

I felt compelled to share a cautionary

1:40:08

tale. This summer, I became newly

1:40:10

enamored of some moors and consume many

1:40:13

of these treats alongside a vacation fire

1:40:15

pit. When I returned home, I vixation. My

1:40:17

fixation with some moors continued and

1:40:19

I started roasting marshmallows over the flame

1:40:21

of our gas stove. Questionable health

1:40:24

decision aside from consuming gas flavored

1:40:26

marshmallows. I roast to the marshmallows

1:40:28

at first with a wooden skewer and then moved

1:40:30

onto a fork as I worried the marshmallows

1:40:33

will not be too melty and slip off of the skewer.

1:40:35

Let me tell you, stick in your mouth

1:40:37

on a scalding fork is not

1:40:40

a good idea. I was so eager

1:40:42

to eat the marshmallows that all common

1:40:44

sense left me and I burned the inside

1:40:46

of my lips with the fork tines.

1:40:49

The upside of this experience was that my

1:40:51

lips looked plumped and kissable without

1:40:53

fillers. The obvious downside was

1:40:55

that I burned the inside of my lips like a

1:40:58

moron for sticking a jet puffed

1:41:00

marshmallow into a gas flame and shoving

1:41:03

the scalding fork into my mouth. Sadly,

1:41:06

I can't even say that, marshall, it was worth the burn,

1:41:08

and my love affair with Mors really took a hit art

1:41:10

and save your lips for that single life bitch

1:41:13

on the fire cake. Ps.

1:41:15

My family adopted a second shelter kit last

1:41:17

week. I figured your Katie would be happy.

1:41:20

Thank you. I'm stopped. Oh

1:41:22

my god, how great is

1:41:24

that? How great? I believe?

1:41:27

I feel that I painted

1:41:30

a pet portrait of their first cat.

1:41:32

I feel that I have painted it.

1:41:35

I did. I painted a portrait.

1:41:37

I have painted a portrait of the first cat.

1:41:40

Um. That's when I yes, so, how

1:41:42

great is that email? How great is that email? That

1:41:44

I would fully burn my mouth and lips

1:41:47

and face I would have. I have had

1:41:49

so many I've gone to UM

1:41:52

like clinics going I have stripped

1:41:54

throat and they're like, no, you don't. You just scalded

1:41:57

your throat. And it was always like eating my morning

1:42:00

ill to Hi,

1:42:02

Danna, how great is that? So?

1:42:04

I guess we can't eat our fire cake? Damn

1:42:08

UM. I got a message from

1:42:10

someone on Instagram about Pandora Jewelry.

1:42:13

Tell me so. It's Carla Fleming and

1:42:16

she says that she's noticed that there's been a ton

1:42:18

of Pandora product product placement. She

1:42:20

said, when Jasena was confronting Chris

1:42:23

at the tight Ass party. Uh. Jasena

1:42:26

had a Pandora bracelet in clear

1:42:28

view of the camera. Then Chelsea was

1:42:30

seen wearing a crown ring that is also on

1:42:32

Pandora, and she said that her mom

1:42:34

used to be like really obsessed with Pandora, so they're

1:42:37

very well if their inventory, and she says, now she

1:42:39

just spent she's she's on the lookout

1:42:41

for Pandora jewelry and every single

1:42:43

episode, I love it, she bust posted.

1:42:45

I love that well, but we appreciate

1:42:48

your reviews. We appreciate your emails,

1:42:50

so keep them coming. And

1:42:53

here we are at tweet of the week as promised.

1:42:55

If you guys want to participate, well,

1:42:57

I guess the shows on Tuesdays now, so whenever

1:42:59

the show airs, a tweet to Amma

1:43:02

and myself by midnight Pacific

1:43:04

time. Anna hosnie h s

1:43:06

s n I E h or arta marine M

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y r I N hashtag w

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y A t R. Okay.

1:43:15

This one is from Alexis Spice

1:43:18

season at ABC. Madsen Morerisa

1:43:21

licking whip cream off Riley's toes

1:43:24

is the cause of the next pandemic. Okay,

1:43:31

this one is from Bridget

1:43:34

at Clementine Cup. Why

1:43:36

is it more believable for couples

1:43:38

to leave Paradise engaged than it

1:43:41

is for Thomas to be Tammy's best

1:43:43

friend? Um?

1:43:47

Sammy Glow seven one

1:43:50

seven also wrote this one. Tammy

1:43:52

just wrote b I p s tagline

1:43:55

bachelor in Paradise ten times

1:43:57

worse than covid Um.

1:44:02

This is from Jeremy kay at six for

1:44:05

Ginger. I love how grocery

1:44:07

store Joe is like the manager

1:44:09

of Paradise. Yes,

1:44:13

falling in the manager anytime they want to kick someone,

1:44:16

get Joe on the line. All right,

1:44:18

what's been going on here in the store?

1:44:20

I like that one and bringing in the manager.

1:44:23

This is from Justin Paul Spade

1:44:25

at Justin Spade. Brendan saying

1:44:27

quote he's going out on his own

1:44:30

terms is like saying Richard Nixon

1:44:32