In this episode of Wild Research Bites Olli and Emelie talk to two passionate conservation practitioners Phoebe Mottram and Lawrence Steyn about their work as field and trail guides in South African Savanna. Phoebe and Lawrence tell us about their lives in the bush, and share some of their most exciting experiences from their work. In this episode, you can hear how Phoebe and Lawrence got into conservation in the first place, and how they ended up guiding tourists in some of the most beautiful places in the world. They share their experiences in conservation education and discuss their ideas about the importance of tourism in conservation.

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Further links:

Ecotraining: https://www.ecotraining.co.za

NJ MORE: https://www.njmorefieldguidecollege.co.za

FGASA course providers: https://www.fgasa.co.za/training-providers (this is a list of all the places in SA and further afield that do the training courses)

Phoebe's and Lawrence's webpage: www.thatchandearth.comand their instagram page (@thatched_earth).

SafariLive: https://wildearth.tv/safarilive/

Africam: https://www.africam.com/wildlife/