The former lead singer of punk-rock band Gossip is a lot of things: a bonafide rock star, a designer, a style icon, a staunch advocate for LGBTQ+ rights and a self-describing “fat, feminist lesbian from Arkansas.” This week, Beth sits down with Perrie to talk about her love of Old Navy, whether fashion’s inclusivity movement is really pushing us forward, and whether she plans to delve back into plus-size design. Strap in: Beth is a true delight. 

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