0:24

I got some

1:17

Hey, it's Conrad Thompson and you're listening

1:20

to What happened to win with

1:22

the voice of your

1:24

childhood, Tony, or should

1:27

I say without the voice of

1:29

your childhood? Tony, she was unable

1:32

to record today. It is a big

1:34

week in a E w it is

1:36

stings last match and it's happening

1:38

this Sunday on pay-per-view. I'm so excited that

1:41

I'm actually recording this on the morning of

1:43

stings last dynamite and I'm pumped and

1:46

I hope that you will be too. This

1:48

has been fun talking about stings last match. I kind of don't

1:50

want it to be here, but it'll be here before you know

1:52

it. But I wanted to

1:54

put together a little bit of a throwback

1:56

for you. What we've got.

2:00

is a little piece of a

2:02

bonus action from the WHW Monday,

2:04

Patrion, our pal, Dave McLean, one

2:06

of our low key big hogs and OG, if

2:08

you will, he selected this for

2:10

us way back when, yeah,

2:13

we're going back 10 years in time to

2:15

talk about two great factions hard

2:18

to believe this was 10 years ago, the wyatts

2:20

versus the shield from elimination chamber

2:22

2014. I

2:25

remember this one. Like it was yesterday. Dave

2:27

says this might be one of

2:29

the greatest six man tag matches of all time.

2:31

You'll see stars in this match. You've gone

2:34

on to have great singles careers. Also,

2:36

I thought this would be a good way to honor

2:38

the late, great Brody Lee, who's in this match is

2:40

Luke Harper. At the time, these

2:43

two factions were new, but the fans still loved

2:45

them already. They

2:48

just cheered for both teams. You'll

2:50

see a lot of great technical wrestling as well

2:52

as high flying maneuvers. No wonder

2:55

there was some debate online after this match,

2:57

if WWE should make a six man tag

2:59

belt, thanks and enjoy.

3:02

It is a great freaking choice. It is

3:04

a sleeper match. And I agree with

3:06

you, Dave. It might actually be one of,

3:09

if not the greatest six

3:11

man tag in WWE history.

3:14

Now that I'm actually thinking about that, I don't remember

3:16

a better

3:19

six man tag. Right?

3:22

Like when you get very specific and you

3:24

say six man, that makes

3:26

me think, yeah, this

3:28

could be it. This might actually be

3:31

the greatest six man tag of all

3:33

time. And Tony, of course,

3:35

had never seen it. Tony was not watching wrestling

3:37

in 2014. I had just

3:39

gotten back into it. I started casually

3:41

paying a little more attention in 2012. I

3:44

started watching on a more regular basis

3:46

in 2013 and I was

3:48

knee deep later that year. Uh,

3:51

so this is fun for me because I'm

3:53

getting to watch this back a match that

3:55

I really, really enjoyed and I'm getting

3:57

to watch it with, uh,

3:59

with. only for the very first time. And I think

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wait for you to check out elimination

6:10

chamber 2014. It's

6:13

a little bonus action from the

6:15

WHW Monday, Patrion here, this

6:17

bonus episode and a whole lot more. As

6:20

a matter of fact, as I'm recording

6:22

this, I'm recording two new bonus episodes

6:25

tomorrow with Tony Schwanier. I'm actually

6:27

going to give you a little spoiler

6:29

here. Let me pull this up live and I'm

6:31

going to tell you exactly what we're doing. We're going

6:33

to be talking about the episode of smack

6:35

down with the rock and sock connection, taking

6:38

on the undertaker and big show in a

6:40

buried alive match. It happened on a

6:42

smack down back in September of 1999. And

6:46

we'll also talk about an episode of

6:48

nitro where we've got sting wrestling

6:50

DDP for the world title. This

6:53

is going to be a lot of fun. Get

6:55

that and a whole lot

6:57

more bonus over at patreon.com/WHW

7:00

Monday. We did two pieces of

7:02

bonus content each and every month at

7:05

patreon.com/WHW Monday, and

7:08

here is a sample. Talking

7:10

about 2014, one of

7:13

the greatest six man tags there ever was. Here we go. Patreon

7:21

subscribers are our friends. They

7:23

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7:32

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7:44

the shows with you if

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you can't click Protestant or

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Jew. It's bonus podcast

7:50

time. Can't think of

7:52

anything else that rhymes. Let's

8:01

talk with Dave McLean, our favorite mailman

8:03

at Stan, Dave, by the way, stands

8:05

at eight foot seven and

8:08

the tallest mail manual ever find. And

8:11

not only that, one of our

8:13

great long time loyal patrons here

8:16

on Patreon, Dave, how are you doing my friend? I'm

8:19

doing great Tony. I am actually at work

8:22

right now as we speak. I'm talking to you inside

8:24

a mail truck. Really? So, so

8:27

does your day run this long? You and

8:29

I are really talking to about seven 30

8:31

Eastern time right now as we're recording, so

8:34

your day goes this long. Um,

8:37

yeah, it does because we're so short-handed

8:39

and all the new employees quit, so

8:42

every day I'm pretty much doing my route

8:44

and half of another route for overtime. So

8:47

I'm working like eight, eight o'clock in

8:49

the morning till eight 30 at night.

8:51

Um, six days a week. Well,

8:54

there's nothing like work ethic, Dave McLean

8:56

and you got it, buddy. Thank

8:58

you for that. I got, I gotta have work

9:01

ethic, you know, especially at this time. Yeah.

9:03

Times are tough. Got to support my family. Yeah.

9:05

And I just do what I have

9:07

to do, you know, to support my family. And that's why

9:09

I work so much. I wish I can be more involved

9:11

with the Patreon stuff too, but work is again

9:14

in the way a lot, so I'm really happy to

9:16

do this by the way. I get it. It's good

9:18

to have you here as always. Okay. So

9:21

we're going to watch the wights against the

9:23

shield from elimination chamber 2014. Now,

9:25

of course we're late on posting

9:28

this bonus podcast for August. And

9:31

what you sent us was kind of a, uh, a

9:34

good way to honor the late gray Brody Lee,

9:36

you wrote that. And then of course, later on,

9:38

after you wrote that Bray

9:41

Wyatt passes away. So,

9:43

uh, we're going to be honoring

9:45

both Brody Lee and Bray Wyatt in

9:47

this elimination chamber from 2014, which

9:49

was, uh, if

9:52

I recall one hell of a match, talk about it.

9:55

Well, Uh, at this

9:57

time, the Wyatt family and the shield

9:59

were. due to a. New faction

10:01

right? you know? and not to say they

10:03

both not that great careers and that's why.

10:06

I. Picked this match because I'm not normally

10:08

because i thought was great way. To.

10:10

Honor Brody leap up because at you

10:12

watch this match you see on. The.

10:15

This year which consists of. Roman

10:18

reigns. At Been Ambrose to

10:20

you know is John Motley Yeah and

10:22

Seth Rollins. And by the way the

10:24

three guys were named the top be

10:26

rough i forget which wrestling with the

10:28

was be Three were then the Top

10:30

Be Reckless and the modern era at.

10:32

The Wyatt family was also ago

10:35

now. But. You were to

10:37

say and I put this out and. Avoids.

10:40

Really. Bray Wyatt passed away. And

10:42

I had died. Another downside rb

10:44

gray whale oil and really appreciate.

10:47

What? the two teams brought to the table

10:49

especially like the why a family and very

10:52

wide character. Was. One

10:54

that a lot a restless could try

10:56

I believe and. Know them blocked

10:58

unblock the character He was pretty much

11:00

I thought like. The. Next Undertaker,

11:02

the next great supernatural Russell right

11:04

that you in the shade. Yeah,

11:06

that's right because you believed in

11:08

what everything he said and. As

11:11

it is really unfortunate, By. Like the

11:14

but I go to the to be a great way to

11:16

honor. Him and honor his

11:18

family and also honor Brody Be.

11:21

Indiscreet six man tag Match that actually

11:23

sparked debate on line about Adnan. Was.

11:25

A dummy to be would you call a

11:28

w trios up when I target as much?

11:30

And Rpm? yeah. Yeah. You

11:32

know you, you're right about Bray Wyatt.

11:34

He was up. His character was a

11:36

great, story was great storytelling. He got.

11:39

Involved. In the characters much as

11:41

you did arrest or much like the

11:44

Undertakers and now that's what made a

11:46

very very special. So obviously Bray Wyatt.

11:48

Com. Wyndham Rent and is gonna be

11:51

missed as well as. John.

11:53

Huber Brodie lead So we're gonna miss those

11:55

guys because they were great performers and this

11:57

is going to show everybody. How. Credible.

12:00

So we're going to go

12:02

back again and take a look at this match.

12:05

And it's going to take us back

12:07

at 2014. I can't believe it's almost

12:09

10 years ago, but it's going to be

12:11

the wights versus the shield from elimination chamber.

12:15

2014 Dave, you're the man,

12:17

buddy. It's good talking to

12:19

you. You told me you,

12:21

uh, you were at ringside for blood and guts at,

12:24

uh, TD, uh, TD garden, I'm sure you had a good

12:26

time. Right. Yep. One hell of a show. First

12:29

time ever set front row at a wrestling event. All

12:32

right. Um, I didn't get much camera time, which

12:34

is good cause I'm kind of camera shy anyway. Okay.

12:36

I sound like on the opposite ring. So the only

12:38

time you actually would see me on camera was,

12:40

um, when during the actual

12:43

blind guts match. Okay. All right. Well,

12:46

I'll go back and check it out. All right. We're

12:48

going to take a look at a elimination chamber, a six man,

12:50

why it's in the shield from 2014. Dave,

12:53

always good talking to you. Appreciate you,

12:55

man. I appreciate you, Tony. Uh, take

12:57

care. Okay. Okay.

14:00

Hey, hey, it's Conrad

14:02

Thompson and you're listening to

14:04

What Happened When? We

14:59

all are. Yeah, we all are. Uh,

15:01

but, but yeah, it's good to be with

15:03

you. Uh, I'd like to apologize for the

15:05

delay of this August, a

15:08

bonus show because. Well,

15:11

I just got freaking old. Well, here's

15:13

what happened, Tony. You, you, you had the biggest

15:15

wrestling show of all time and

15:18

I took a lot of prep. And then

15:20

as soon as you came back, you had another

15:22

pay-per-view immediately. I don't know, you know,

15:24

people listening to this have the internet in their homes. I

15:26

hope they do. Uh, there's been some,

15:29

some talent relations stuff that took you away.

15:32

Well, you're busy, man. We get it. You're busy,

15:34

but you know what? Better late

15:36

than never. We're excited because we've gotten not one, but

15:38

two big bonus shows that we owe you for August,

15:40

we're going to be delivering today. And of course, later

15:43

this month, we'll knock out September, but we're

15:46

watching something pretty special today,

15:48

Tony. Our first bonus episode

15:51

is the elimination chamber from 2014. And

15:53

you might be saying to yourself, self, what

15:55

was so special about that show, Tony,

15:58

this is the last. asked

16:00

WWE pay-per-view. How about that? Uh,

16:05

run out by me again. Yeah. So

16:07

the very next day they

16:09

launched the WWE network, which

16:12

would include all of the future premium

16:14

live events. So this is the very

16:16

last time that WWE

16:18

fans clicked the button on their

16:20

direct TV remote and sent 39

16:22

95 or whatever it was to

16:24

their cable system. And,

16:26

uh, of course, who better to watch on that

16:28

show than the Wyatt family.

16:31

Uh, they've certainly been a hot topic for

16:33

us lately in wrestling, which is reliving

16:36

some of those great Bray Wyatt moments and

16:38

they're taking on the shield and

16:41

who the hell did those guys ever beat? Roman

16:44

Reigns, John Moxley, Seth Rollins. I don't

16:46

know if this is going to work.

16:49

Right. Uh, so join us, won't you?

16:52

It's season five, episode one of the

16:54

elimination chamber. It's elimination chamber 2014 from

16:57

season five, episode one. And

17:00

Tony, I think we're going to get started at

17:02

52 minutes and 21 seconds. That's

17:05

52 minutes and 21 seconds of

17:07

season five, episode one, the elimination

17:09

chamber from 2014, it'll

17:11

be the Wyatt family versus the

17:13

shield. And Tony, as I understand

17:15

it, you weren't even remotely interested

17:17

in wrestling in this era. Is that right?

17:20

No, I didn't give a damn about it. I was

17:22

worried about getting on the bus and going

17:25

from, uh, Gwynette

17:27

to Charlotte or Gwynette Durham, or maybe taking a

17:29

flight and sitting in the middle seat and coach

17:31

in the back and

17:33

going to like Toledo or,

17:36

uh, Pawtucket, Rhode Island. That's what

17:38

I was doing. I didn't even

17:40

know Pawtucket was a real thing. I thought it

17:42

was just something from family guy, learn something new

17:44

every day. No, it's real. Hey, I

17:46

do want to, this is interesting. Uh, in

17:48

a way, Dave Mclay has suggested this one

17:50

days from Boston. Boston area.

17:52

And he's our, uh, longtime friend

17:55

and, and a mailman up

17:57

there. He wanted to see this one.

17:59

This is how. This is how old it

18:01

was. This is back in August 8th

18:04

when he sent us this note that he wanted to see

18:06

this match because he thought it would

18:09

be a good way to honor the late gray Brody Lee

18:12

was since that time. And since that time

18:14

he wrote that right way, it has

18:16

also passed away. So we're honoring Brody

18:18

and Bray Wyatt as well. Super

18:22

excited to, uh, to

18:25

be watching this one 52 minutes and 21 seconds. Uh,

18:29

I think we're going to have the talking head sort of

18:32

hype up this six man. We'll watch a little package

18:34

explaining how we got here and then watch the match.

18:36

Tony, I'm ready. I'm all you under. You ready on

18:38

your end? I'm ready to, you ready? Here

18:40

we go. In three, two,

18:42

one. Play an

18:59

opportunity a few weeks ago on Monday night.

19:01

Wrong. Daniel

19:05

Brian, look at the tag and he does. Is

19:09

it weird for you to watch people that you know from

19:11

10 years ago before you knew them like

19:13

Daniel Brian and all these guys? Yeah,

19:16

because they look different. They're obviously they're

19:18

younger and just different.

19:22

Tom is such a funny thing because it's hard for

19:24

me to imagine this is nearly 10 years old now.

19:28

Yeah. But like, if you

19:30

and I were watching something from 1997 and then we went and

19:33

back and watched something from 1987, that feels like a lifetime 87 to 97. Yes.

19:39

But 2014 to now feels like, Oh, it was a couple

19:41

of years ago. Right. I know. And

19:44

I think the reason is, is because we're

19:46

old. Yeah, we're old. But

19:48

look, look at, look, look

19:51

how John Matsu looks young

19:54

and he looks just completely different. Well,

19:56

part of that is because he has

19:58

Casio kids hairline. And he

20:01

could tell he was just pulling it towards the front

20:03

and he gave up on that and it looks cooler

20:05

because he did I think Yeah,

20:08

and and of course he hasn't he

20:11

doesn't bleed every every match Like

20:14

he does now Doesn't

20:17

believe every match or is that just something that people

20:19

say We

20:21

believed a lot I think some of the bleeding

20:23

that and we mentioned this on on TV the

20:25

other night some of the bleeding comes from the

20:27

Fact that he has bled so much right and

20:29

he's got that scar tissue and you and you

20:32

know, it goes through You

20:34

know guys used to put I Remember

20:37

guys put Vaseline on their head on their

20:39

foreheads back in the day To

20:43

stop the the bleeding the slap

20:45

bleeding. Oh Man, I

20:47

thought they were using Neos for and they're using Vaseline

20:50

to yeah, I was vastly. Yeah. Wow

20:53

You ever rub Vaseline on the tip of

20:55

your dick and show it up an orifice

20:59

Because I've heard people do that but that feels

21:01

like something from yesteryear. Like I don't know anyone

21:03

who's done that or do I? Know

21:07

I not that not that I'm aware of Me

21:11

putting that in an orifice is it's

21:14

kind of like Hahahaha

21:21

That's one of the most famous rap diss

21:23

tracks of all time No

21:27

Vaseline But yeah

21:30

So listen, there's a quite a package

21:32

here hyping us on this

21:35

Elimination chamber man. So let's track a few more

21:37

seconds Okay Red

21:46

Wyatt little family Don't

21:53

experience and

22:00

have all in your backyard, you

22:04

may just like it, but

22:07

I hate it. What

22:27

do you think of this, the

22:29

call, you know, Sierra and Echo

22:31

and all that, and then here

22:33

comes the music, and down

22:35

from the crowd that come, what do you think of

22:38

that as an entrance? I

22:42

think it's kind of

22:45

an overdone. I

22:47

guess because I've seen Moxley, you know, come

22:49

through the crowd too. Well,

22:54

he was doing it here first, of course. Yeah.

22:58

The shield was, what did you think of the

23:00

shield? And of course I was not familiar with him at all, but what did

23:02

you think of it as a group? I mean,

23:04

I thought it was a cool group. You know, I think a

23:06

lot of people felt like they ended it too soon. I

23:09

think you could argue that it worked out just fine. Yeah.

23:12

You know, the bloodline and John Moxley

23:15

and Seth Rollins, it worked out. The

23:18

purpose of the shield was what? To

23:22

shield against bad guys? Well,

23:24

they called it, I mean, their nickname was the hounds

23:26

of justice, but I wouldn't go

23:28

so far as to say they were baby faces. Maybe

23:32

they were looking for a comic book deal. I

23:35

love you for that. It

23:37

could be, you know, everybody's

23:40

kind of, everybody were wrestling, looking

23:42

for a deal. How about this

23:44

white, how about these white ropes and the white

23:46

ring posts and everything? And

23:48

Justin Roberts standing there, young Justin

23:50

Roberts. It's

23:53

crazy. You know, how small

23:55

this wrestling world really is. Is it not?

23:58

Yeah, it is. Well,

24:01

this show in and of itself, uh, did

24:04

a seven, $700,000 gate. More

24:06

than 11,000 fans were paying there. Um,

24:10

they announced attendance at 14,000 because

24:12

you know, WWE. Yeah.

24:15

Uh, and then the actual show itself,

24:17

a batch one was gold dust and

24:20

Cody roads taken on Ryback and Curtis

24:22

Axel. Um, number

24:25

two was big E

24:27

over Jack swagger. Number three

24:29

was the new age outlaws retaining the

24:32

tag titles over the Usos that's road

24:34

dog and Billy gun. We

24:37

got Titus O'Neill pinning his former tag

24:39

team partner, Darren young. And

24:41

then in the next match, and they're going to go 22 minutes and 39

24:43

seconds here in what Meltzer called

24:46

a showstealer. Uh,

24:48

is the six men we're watching. He

24:50

says the crowd was chanting, this is awesome. Before

24:52

the lockup, then there were dueling chance Rollins

24:55

worked a phenomenal match, lots of

24:57

compliments. Ultimately, he gives it

24:59

four and a quarter stars. And

25:03

how about these men? Like just entrances. I think

25:05

he could argue to the coolest, you know, the

25:07

guys coming down from the crowd and then the

25:09

rocking chair and the lantern it's

25:12

different. If

25:15

the fans are chanting, this is also before the lockup

25:17

means the fans have bought into all of this, the,

25:20

all these theatrics and everything, all

25:22

the suspense, all the buildup to the match, which is

25:25

cool. Right. Yeah. I mean, these, both of these factions

25:27

had some, uh,

25:29

some momentum. Yeah. Do

25:33

you ever see mayor Kingstown? I did.

25:36

Yeah. Of course, Eric was in that big

25:40

Eric, the red. Yeah. That's a

25:42

spot in that. If that is, I forgot, I forgot

25:44

that Eric Rowan was in that, but I think I

25:47

remember. Let's track a few seconds

25:49

here and see what we can pick up. So

26:05

here we go, the big, this is awesome champ before the

26:07

guys are even all the way in the ring and. Yeah.

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27:00

as you and I are recording on a

27:03

Friday morning here, September 15th, the WWE

27:05

layoffs have already begun. Really?

27:08

Yep. My phone's ringing.

27:10

Uh, so that's the names you got some names. I

27:13

know it's awful. People so far. Oh,

27:15

office people. Okay. It's just

27:17

based on the time zone. It's eight 14

27:19

here central. So nine 14 Eastern and people

27:23

in the London office already getting their notices.

27:26

Oh, wow. Well,

27:29

there you go. It's got another

27:32

text from someone, uh, in the business

27:34

who helps cover the

27:36

news. I shouldn't say their name, but he

27:38

says today's going to be ugly, isn't it? Pretty

27:45

crazy, man. You know, we're watching. This

27:48

is the first time you and I've spoken

27:50

since a TKO has been a thing. And

27:52

the merger is official with WWE

27:55

and UFC and how

27:57

ironic that we're watching the last

27:59

traditional paper. Kirby. I

28:02

mean yeah, this, the change

28:04

is inevitable. right? I

28:07

don't I don't want to sound like

28:09

a. Ah,

28:13

A man of the people. At.

28:15

My L, or and or employer this

28:17

but. Isn't

28:21

that kind of. If

28:23

you're employed by company. A

28:26

new get laid off. In

28:28

the face of somebody walking away Fifteen million?

28:31

Would you be really pissed off? Maybe.

28:37

Yeah. I could

28:39

see if he added see if. That's

28:43

the world. A big business buddy. It's

28:47

with. A Hate

28:49

it? Yeah, I had to. How

28:52

many lay off? So what? What's the number of

28:55

layoffs they prefer of people are predicting? Or or

28:57

they predict. Are they predict? I heard forty percent.

29:00

Forty. Percent sort of heard are

29:03

out us. My real heard another

29:05

number that said hundred and fifty

29:07

folks. Again

29:10

it is that you saw the W W side or

29:12

is on the other side to. I

29:15

would imagine forty percent encompasses both sides.

29:17

Hundred and fifty out imagine had Debbie's

29:19

of email addresses that will no longer

29:21

work at the end of the day

29:24

after. There

29:27

you go. Hey would you say to

29:29

the Peter Br five hundred? The came out.

29:33

Did. Not see it. Was.

29:36

Out as our that a number one is

29:38

Seth Rollins. Number two

29:40

is a Roman Reigns.

29:43

And her number three is a gun and John

29:46

Moxley. Really And. The

29:48

Shields want to interrupt. Yes, I've

29:53

ever met. Robbers be a number one. Number

29:55

three is good or sorry number for as

29:57

Gunther. number father's l

29:59

here day by Kingo. Number

30:02

six is MJF. Number

30:06

seven is Ocala. Number

30:09

eight is Orange Cassidy. Number

30:12

nine is Josh Alexander. Number

30:15

10 is Cody Rhodes. Number

30:18

11 Sonata. Number 12, Claudio

30:20

Kestignyoli. Number 13,

30:22

Carmelo Hayes. Number 14, Samoa

30:25

Joe. Number 15,

30:28

Masha Slamovich. Number

30:30

16, Brian Danielson. Number 17, Will

30:32

Ospreay. Number 18,

30:35

Alexander Hammerstone. Number

30:37

19, Bobby Lassley. Number 20,

30:39

Trey Miguel. Kenny

30:42

Omega is number 25. Wow.

30:46

Adam Page is number 28. Darby

30:54

Allen is 49. Okay. Who's

31:00

number five zero? Edge.

31:05

Okay. It's

31:08

all signed the other night. Can't

31:11

remember where it was. It was

31:14

probably our last show

31:16

that I did, which

31:18

would have been Cincinnati as

31:20

you and I were talking. It said to sign Edge.

31:22

Is Edge at the end

31:25

of his contract? Yep. Common

31:28

belief in WWE is that he will be working

31:30

for AW any day now. Oh,

31:32

okay. WWE even

31:34

moved him off of their roster

31:37

on their website and

31:39

put him into miscellaneous once

31:42

that news broke. But

31:44

he did a video about a month ago saying

31:46

that he had a contract extension

31:48

offer in his inbox, but he didn't know what

31:50

he was going to do. I For

31:53

one, hope he finishes his career in AW.

31:56

He's had an opportunity to come back, but

31:58

didn't do much with him. He

32:01

did yet stacked up like

32:03

lumber. My. Kindle? Yeah,

32:06

I always with Broad Danielson against Roman

32:08

Reigns of the main Event of Wrestlemania.

32:11

And he had what was promoted as vaguely rails

32:13

wrestling match of all time between him and Randy

32:15

Orton. And went about three and

32:17

a half days. And Democrats

32:19

Money. And burn that

32:21

the did what to do. A time in I

32:24

had that fabulous return of the Royal Rumble the

32:26

nobody expected. Run. I for

32:28

one, would love to see him and

32:30

Christian retire together. As. A

32:32

tag team. In ada, have you.

32:35

Ever. See them in the Hardy's one last time.

32:38

I'd. Love to see them in the Young Bucks for the

32:40

first time ever! I'd. Love to see them

32:42

and ft are for the first time ever! I.

32:45

Just think it would be really cool to

32:47

see those guys finish their career together, I

32:49

know they both have great singles careers. They'll.

32:51

Always be as a Christian to me. right?

32:56

We've. Got some pretty good actually. Went on

32:58

here in the ring only south look at

33:00

have greatly Harper's. Air he can sell

33:02

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34:09

I think, I think this was the highest rated match

34:11

on the show. I mean, that's where you can call

34:13

it the show's dealer. Right. It's

34:17

pretty remarkable what these guys have been able to do. You

34:20

know, I know. It's

34:24

so crazy too, to think, you know, you and

34:26

I watch so much old wrestling and

34:28

we'd say, man, it's hard to believe that this

34:31

guy and this kind of this guy are no longer with us. Yeah.

34:34

And we think, you know, the business is

34:36

so different now, like

34:38

the drugs and alcohol are not nearly as

34:40

rampant as they once were. I mean, it

34:42

is a much different industry. Now the

34:45

schedule is a lot different. Just the personalities are

34:47

a lot different. The guys are more likely to

34:49

play video games than go out to

34:51

the bars now. Right. We

34:53

still lost two guys super, super early and

34:55

neither were due to drugs or alcohol. You

34:58

know, they were just something medical. It's

35:00

crazy. Right. Who

35:04

would have thought, you

35:07

know, you know what I'm noticing here? John Moxley

35:09

works differently. Oh, yeah. Now that he

35:11

used to, he's working

35:13

at WWE style, baby. He's

35:19

not like, I mean, like now he's like this,

35:22

you know, come on, hit me, you know, rough

35:24

and rugged and, and

35:26

he's doing a lot of flopping around here that

35:30

seems, seems to be

35:32

not what he does now. Well, they

35:34

required selling. Seriously,

35:39

like WWE developmental. And

35:41

that's where all these guys were coming up from. They're

35:44

coming up from FCW and NXT. Literally

35:46

everyone in the ring was just there.

35:50

Right. I

35:52

think they all came up in 2013. Yeah.

35:57

I really think. And

36:00

of course you

36:03

think Developmental

36:06

is so is so essential

36:09

well, I Was told

36:12

that the P&L for where NXT looks a

36:14

lot like the WBF So

36:18

I'm saying I'm saying that to

36:20

say okay changes, okay What's

36:28

WBF remember when Vince tried

36:30

to do a bodybuilding Federation that couldn't make money

36:32

if it fucking tried Yeah,

36:34

right. Yeah. Well, it just started losing money and

36:36

it never stopped losing money So

36:39

you're saying the NXT is going is leaving. No,

36:42

no, I'm saying next to the TV show

36:44

will continue But that

36:46

PC and having 200 wrestlers under

36:50

contract hoping one day they make it Yeah

36:53

That's that's probably over Yeah

36:57

And that's where 90% of wrestlers

37:00

live now Orlando Yeah, well

37:02

gonna be a lot of people putting

37:04

in notices with apartment communities over

37:07

the next week. I guess Wow It's

37:12

gonna be interesting to see you know, I

37:14

mean I for one don't want anyone to

37:16

lose their job I think that's just terrible

37:18

I'm not rooting for that at all But

37:21

I hope that a lot of the

37:23

infrastructure that WWE has in place like

37:25

their office staff the behind-the-scenes staff I

37:27

hope a lot of those folks who were tenured

37:30

folks who would probably normally never consider Leaving

37:33

WWE just based on their longevity

37:35

there. I hope they at least

37:37

get a shake with a W

37:39

because You know a W

37:41

still growing companies. So a very young company. So

37:43

to be able to pick up some veteran talent

37:46

behind the scenes Could be

37:48

a big value you add afraid of you and

37:50

I hope that those folks find

37:52

a soft spot to land and I Hope

37:55

that some of the folks who if my guess

37:57

is correct that there's gonna be a lot of

37:59

development developmental wrestlers who were now

38:02

no longer getting a WWE check. I hope

38:04

that becomes a big net positive for the

38:06

independence. Yeah. The,

38:09

the guys who really want to continue to pursue their

38:11

dreams. Maybe they can get out there

38:13

on the Indies, paint outside the

38:15

lines a little bit, pick up some steam

38:17

with the impacts and the MLWs and all

38:21

the other independence that are out there, the GCWs

38:23

and so on and so forth.

38:30

I was, I was pals with, uh, Arne Anderson. I'm

38:32

a friend of Darn Anderson around this time. And

38:35

he told me in his

38:37

opinion, Luke Harper

38:39

was the most underrated guy on the main roster.

38:42

Really? He said, if you just watch the way

38:44

he puts together matches and

38:46

he said, I've seen him on the house shows. It

38:49

is a different match every time he

38:52

is switching it up every time. Guys

38:55

get into a rhythm and a pattern and they

38:57

do a combination of moves together. You

38:59

know, like we all used to see Bret Hart,

39:02

you know, he'd know, we'd know a Russian leg,

39:04

sweet elbow from the

39:06

second corner, you had just, you know, three or four

39:08

moves in sequence. She would do it every time. And,

39:11

and Arne said, Luke didn't do that. Luke

39:15

could go out there and switch it up every time.

39:17

It's a little different every time. And

39:20

he could really flop around for a big. He

39:24

had a singles match in a ladder against,

39:26

uh, Dolph Ziggler.

39:28

You mean you need to watch some time. Okay.

39:36

Of course, uh, not everybody knows this, but

39:38

the real life Brody Lee, the man portraying

39:41

Luke Harper here was like best

39:43

of friends with AWS, Chris Harrington.

39:47

Right there. Both from Rochester, New York. Super

39:49

tight. Yeah. Yeah.

39:53

I know when he passed away, how well a lot

39:55

of people took it hard. We all took it hard.

39:58

Uh, but especially Chris Harrington. to, Oh

40:01

my goodness. Oh

40:03

my goodness. I got a visitor here. Is

40:06

scout in the room? The

40:09

latest member of the Shivani household, ladies and

40:12

gentlemen, scout making his podcast of

40:14

you. Can you make scout make any noise? No

40:17

scout. What's up? It's a girl. Oh,

40:19

sorry. That's okay. What

40:21

you doing? Oh yeah. No tally wacker. No,

40:24

no, hey, scout, you good girl. Yeah.

40:28

That's a hell of a name for a girl dog. Scout

40:30

sounds like a boy dog named Tony. Well,

40:32

talk to Lois about that. I'm not complaining.

40:35

Yeah. No, here's where it came from.

40:37

Scout was the girl, a girl, the

40:39

girl in to kill a mockingbird. Oh,

40:41

okay. Cool. That's okay. That's cool. Yeah.

40:44

So that's where it came from. So we

40:46

argued, I wanted to call her princess Leia because we got

40:48

a Chewy. Oh wow. I like

40:50

that. Could've called her princess or Leia. Yeah,

40:53

I know. Well, maybe, maybe

40:55

one of these dogs will get your way. Man,

41:02

Eric Rowan with that scoop slam on Seth Rollins.

41:05

He picked it up like a damn baby. Yeah.

41:08

It's I can see why this is a four

41:11

plus star match. This

41:15

is really, uh, this is really well done. I

41:18

was so like, they don't know if I like it, but

41:20

some really funky camera work in this one.

41:22

I guess they still do that now, where

41:25

a lot of times on a spot, they'll zoom in real

41:27

fast. Yeah. You know, I don't

41:29

know if you noticed that or not, but I

41:32

guess they, they, they do a lot of that now on

41:36

some of these, uh, just the

41:38

camera work is different, you know? Man,

41:45

look at that. Yes. Would

41:49

you want to wrestle in a coverall like Eric

41:51

Rowan or no? What's

41:54

that? Like the outfit, the coverall

41:56

that he's wearing there. Yeah. To me, it

41:58

looks like he's getting ready to work on your car. I

42:00

mean, I think that's what's cool though. I think that'd

42:02

be a fun deal to wrestle in. It

42:06

might be pretty comfortable. That's

42:08

what I mean. I mean, look

42:10

at what the shields wearing. I mean, they got

42:12

to wear like these combat boots and all

42:14

this technical gear. They got to be sweating their

42:16

ass off. Right. Versus Eric

42:19

Rylwyn. I mean, you think he's free balling

42:21

under there? I

42:23

probably so. Well, I don't know. You know, you

42:25

can't free ball. Why not? Yeah. Because

42:29

you take a bump and those things just bang around

42:31

and you're going to be in bad shape. Well,

42:33

so your cocking nuts fall out. That's the worst

42:36

case, right? Yeah. Right. What's

42:38

wrong with that? Yeah,

42:41

maybe so. You know, when I go

42:43

into ring-do interviews, it's

42:46

really difficult to go through those ropes because of my

42:48

balls. Really? You got big balls getting

42:50

in the way? No, I just

42:52

old man balls drooping. Oh, yeah.

42:54

Yeah. See, I hadn't, that's a phenomenon that

42:57

hadn't hit me yet. It'll

42:59

happen to you. Now,

43:01

did yours used to hang tight and now they're, now

43:03

they got some hang time on them or what was

43:06

that like? Okay. Yeah. When

43:08

do you, how old do you think you are when the hang

43:10

time really starts to get noticeable? I think

43:12

it's in your sixties. Oh, fuck. Okay. Yeah.

43:17

Because you just stepped through the ropes and I

43:20

hear, I like Bray White, how he does that, where

43:22

he holds his head and turns away. Like

43:24

he's having some sort of mental breakdown before

43:26

he throws himself into the corner.

43:31

I call that man. See, you

43:33

see that camera work right there on that, uh, at

43:35

pickup and slam. That's

43:37

very unique. Your

43:40

boy, Mike may have been helping with this back

43:42

then. Oh, I'm sure you, I'm sure he

43:44

was. He's a, he's

43:46

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43:49

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What Happened When. I

45:34

saw Moxley did an interview recently where

45:36

he said that he

45:39

had a doctor tell him he had the arthritis of a

45:41

70 year old man. Wow.

45:44

And he said that was a year or two ago. So now it's a 72

45:46

year old man. I don't

45:48

move very well in the mornings, but thank God shows

45:50

her at night. And by then I'm pretty loosened up.

45:53

Yeah. And we're watching

45:56

him do all this crazy shit from 10 years ago. I

45:59

just, I, I want to. wonder sometimes, uh,

46:02

30 years from now, what,

46:05

what the condition of these kids are going to be like. I

46:07

really do. I

46:09

mean, we talk about a bump card and we just, they're

46:12

just, your body just can't take

46:14

all these bumps, man. They just, it just can't.

46:17

Right. Yeah. I

46:19

mean, what's, what's Darby Allen going to be? Holy

46:22

shit. The crazy things

46:24

that he does and the pain that he suffers

46:27

all the time. And,

46:30

oh, look at Roman

46:32

range, a hell of an athlete, isn't he? Dude.

46:34

You know, what's crazy is he played D line at

46:36

Georgia tech. Yeah. But he

46:38

used to be in your city and you couldn't be

46:40

running around promoting him. Yeah.

46:43

I know. Yeah. The

46:45

dogs always ran over him, but that's okay. It's

46:48

just the way it was back then. And

46:50

still is today. The most famous, uh, Georgia

46:52

football player that became a wrestler is Goldberg.

46:54

Right. Yeah. Right. And I

46:56

saw, and I guess Bray white is probably

46:59

the most, the most famous Troy football player

47:01

from Troy university in Alabama. Okay.

47:05

And I guess Roman range is Georgia techs. Yeah.

47:11

The Alabama have a, uh, a

47:14

kid that went on to wrestle. Yeah.

47:16

His name was Bobby Eaton, but

47:18

I think he did go to finish middle school. University

47:23

of Alabama. No, no, no. We

47:25

just, they just go on to play football.

47:29

Yeah. He landed on. Oh, here we

47:31

go. Look at, listen to the crowd. The

47:52

big double down, man. How

47:56

about Seth Rollins going over the top, dude? And

48:00

he lands on the shoulders. God,

48:03

he lands on the shoulders of John. It's

48:07

been said that, uh, you

48:10

know, Seth has a lower back problem.

48:13

He's got some lower vertebrae that are

48:15

giving him real trouble. They're cracked and he's

48:19

not sure how much longer he's going to be able to do this either.

48:25

Yeah, well, doesn't

48:27

surprise me. Hey,

48:30

you know what? It's dangerous there, but I've

48:32

discovered that. It's

48:36

a much better place to call them. I

48:42

like the, uh, the collision setup, which

48:45

is now our, our pay-per-view setup for

48:47

announcers better than the light where we are

48:49

in the back during dynamite. But

48:53

of course there's always a chance, especially

48:56

when John Moxie is around, like he is right there, uh,

49:02

that you're going to get, uh, in

49:05

involved in the action, so

49:07

to speak. Have

49:15

you seen, uh, the

49:17

wrestlers on OVW yet? Uh,

49:20

I mean on Netflix yet? No.

49:24

I haven't either. But I'm hoping to watch some

49:26

this weekend. What, what's it called?

49:28

The wrestlers called the wrestlers. It's about OVW

49:31

Al Snow and Matt Jones, friend

49:33

of the show, a big, uh,

49:35

Kentucky radio guy, who you probably know. Knowing

49:38

very well. Well, he, uh, he

49:40

supposedly is running OVW at a $30,000 a month

49:42

deficit. Wow.

49:47

Yeah. And then

49:49

money company from his radio

49:51

empire. Okay. He's

49:55

got a big radio empire, I know,

49:57

but that's a lot of money. money.

50:01

That's a lot of money for, or guys

50:04

not, doesn't have a major

50:07

corporation behind him. Look

50:11

at this. Just the old school monitors, man.

50:13

Just let's take it. Just fucking phone boy.

50:17

Just yank, yank, yank. I

50:22

don't want anybody to fall on those old school monitors.

50:24

Can you imagine how bad that would hurt? Yeah.

50:27

And it's amazing to have the monitors have

50:29

changed, but it's just,

50:31

it's not good. It's, I

50:34

guess the WWE and everybody knew what they were going

50:37

to do, but they just, they

50:39

just, so

50:43

they got, uh, they got

50:46

Seth Rollins now

50:48

isolated here and

50:51

let's see what the big guys are going to do. They

50:56

go jump off one freaking table to another.

51:01

How about that ship? Do

51:05

you know the, uh, the collision

51:07

table, uh, does

51:11

not collapse like that. Yeah.

51:14

It is really a, it is really a dangerous piece

51:16

of furniture for guys to wrestle on. What

51:20

a fun sentence. That's a dangerous piece of

51:22

furniture right here. It

51:24

is. It's, it's got, uh, jagged.

51:27

It just, I look at this sometime

51:29

and I, I even told the guys when

51:31

I first saw the guys who, you know, do set up

51:33

for us. I said, we need, we

51:35

need padding around these corners. Someone's

51:37

going to get impaled. That's

51:42

kind of my job with talent relations just suggests

51:46

stupid shit. Like we need

51:48

padding around these corners. The guys are going to

51:50

get impaled or we need pizza

51:52

for the guys at night. They're hungry. You

51:54

know, just, just mom shit.

51:57

That's natural. Yeah.

52:06

Hell of a match guys. These guys are really

52:08

working hard. And excellent suggestion.

52:10

I'm glad that you get to see this

52:12

and it's a fun little trivia

52:15

note that, uh, this

52:17

is the last traditional paper view. Yeah.

52:20

No. The

52:27

carper on

52:29

his knees. Here comes the tag.

52:31

Let's track it. Bring to you, Brian Wyatt. And

52:35

he do your worst. Woming rain.

52:41

The sacrifice for the

52:43

Wyatt family. Ray

52:46

Wyatt with woman range left in the ring. Sister.

53:00

Must make out. feed

53:21

for Brian. Drive.

53:26

SCANLAN. aping.

53:31

It's Costs of Dietering.

53:42

Measuring. Here

53:50

we go. What

53:59

do you think of this? finish the, uh, the sister Abigail.

54:01

Do you like that move as a move?

54:04

Yeah, it's okay. It's another move,

54:07

right? That you talk about and you see and

54:09

you put it over and I put

54:12

the white family going over here. Huh? Yeah.

54:16

You know, he's getting ready for John Cena at WrestleMania.

54:20

Yeah. This is late February. So they

54:23

had to have break go over here to get ready

54:25

for Cena. Right. Right. Listen

54:27

to the cook of the crowd. An

54:29

incredible match. It's

54:33

a cool vibe, man. Let's go

54:36

back and look at what happened. They

54:45

fight out. Yeah,

54:53

that was just last week. I thought

54:55

it was the same day. We never saw Mott

54:58

again. By

55:09

the way, this is a one

55:11

month after CM Punk quit WWE.

55:14

Wow. It's a,

55:17

it's, it's interesting the way wrestling

55:20

moves and ebbs and flows. Change

55:23

is inevitable. So

55:25

his run in the WWF was like early 2000

55:27

to mid 2000, something like that. It

55:30

was like, uh, I think

55:32

he signed in, in Oh five, the summer

55:34

of Oh five. So we'll just

55:37

round up and call it the beginning of a

55:39

six to the beginning of 2014. Okay.

55:42

So about eight years. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

55:46

boys and girls, that'll do it for us on

55:48

a very special bonus edition of what

55:50

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55:52

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55:54

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55:56

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55:59

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56:01

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56:03

not done, Tony. As I understand

56:05

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56:08

attitude era on deck. So stay tuned. We've

56:10

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