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8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

Released Sunday, 25th August 2019
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8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

8/25-Hour 1: Lamar Miller's Knee Injury & Melvin Gordon Trade Scenarios

Sunday, 25th August 2019
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can. Fantasy Update won't be on on

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Saturdays anymore. We're doing a little college football

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live and then we're doing it

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looks like an in game live from twelve to six

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after that, which, uh,

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tell you that, but I'm sure Cam and I will be involved

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in the in game live of some sort next

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Sunday. As far as weekend Fantasy Update, I'm

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not sure yet. It is Labor Day

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weekend. There may be no programming. They might

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be programming. Maybe it'll be all last weekend Fantasy

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Update show. We'll find out, and I

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will let you know. I'll tweet out as soon as I do find

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out for those who will enjoy listening to us.

1:37

We'll see how that works, all

1:40

right, Jim, Uh

1:42

you know it's funny. I think I told you during the break there's a

1:44

you know, one more segment on Andrew Luck in

1:46

Indianapolis, And there's so many questions still go through

1:48

my head here that I'm not so sure I'm gonna live

1:50

up to that agreement. But we were talking while

1:53

on Mac you mentioned Nahi heinz uh.

1:55

So I'm gonna play with the same game I play with you with t

1:57

Y Hilton. As far as Mac is going learned,

2:00

Uh No. My believe is what's gonna running back with the pole

2:02

starter? You know he's I'm not gonna say I'm not gonna

2:04

draft him. I'm just more worried about him now.

2:07

So Marlin Mac mark

2:10

Ingram

2:12

I'm blue Dad. That's that's a really

2:15

tough choice. For me because people

2:17

who listen to me, No, I'm not a hundred

2:19

sold on Ingram in that Baltimore

2:23

offense. Uh, never running our

2:25

run in an r p O offense before. And

2:27

I'm a little worried that Justice

2:29

Hill actually fits that offense

2:32

a little better. So you probably couldn't have picked

2:34

up better matchup here. Um,

2:38

you know, yeah

2:40

you did. This is a tough one for me. I think I

2:42

would. I think I would still

2:44

go Mac just because

2:46

they still have a great offensive line

2:49

and you know, percent should

2:52

do fair enough to keep

2:55

the stack boxes at least to

2:57

a mediocre range. So

3:00

it's not every down. Um.

3:02

So yeah, that's a really tough

3:04

one. But in in all reality, I'll

3:06

be honest with you, at this point, I

3:08

would almost find somebody else to draft

3:10

at that point besides either of them.

3:13

I would have Mac r Ringram as well. I don't believe an

3:15

ing of at all. I just don't for the reason

3:18

you mentioned. I'm not gonna get into it any further than that.

3:21

Uh maca Henry, oh,

3:24

Henry. At this point, it's

3:26

all about the team being smart enough to use him

3:28

the way he's supposed to be used. But I still

3:30

go with Henry New

3:32

England back. I'm

3:35

starting to buy it to Sony Michelle. I mean,

3:37

they're saying all the right thing. He's looking good,

3:39

He's seems to be fully healthy right now. They

3:41

want to get him involved in the passing game a little

3:44

more. I'm not saying he's gonna go out and

3:46

catch fifty six balls, but heck,

3:48

you give me to thirty on the season

3:50

along with his touchdowns, and I'd like that a

3:52

ton. There's always gonna be some concern with

3:54

New England backs, but at this point I'd take

3:56

Michelle either

3:59

Chicago back. Oh absolutely,

4:01

David Montgomery absolutely without even

4:03

a freaking out. People, if you have

4:06

any doubts at all about David Montgomery,

4:08

get rid of him. This kid next year

4:11

is going to be in the running to be a first round

4:13

uh pick in fantasy drafts. I

4:16

have him inside my top twelve right

4:18

now. Nice say,

4:20

look little not good from Jim Day. They I kind of agree with you,

4:22

By the way, I like David montgom me a lot as

4:24

well. Here. Now it's funny, I just

4:27

remember this, uh because I was

4:29

tree comen. Uh. I gotta in

4:31

the league that Jim Days, that Jim Day isn't playing it.

4:33

But it's the league Jim Day set up. I don't know a decade ago our

4:36

former platform. Serious. Uh,

4:39

I mean I'm still in that league. It's a it's a heavy league,

4:41

six and thirty two teams, but sixteen team

4:43

conference. It's really two sixteen team leagues that

4:46

league. I like this and I think

4:48

that's one of that's one of my favorite things to play it because

4:50

it's what forties forty

4:52

five million rosters. It's I dbat. We

4:54

actually started more I defensive players that

4:57

do offensive players, no kickers, no defense.

4:59

Uh. It is a fun leak. I like it. But I bring

5:01

it up because I get a

5:03

trade proposal last night from

5:06

the program director Matt Deutsch. He

5:08

plays in that league. Matt has Andrew

5:10

Luck. Matt has no other quarterbacks.

5:14

I have three starting quarterbacks. They're not great.

5:16

I have Derek carran Garoppolo, Nick

5:18

Foles, and I have strong quarter

5:24

sta it. I know they're not great, all right, but

5:27

anyway, Uh, Matt,

5:30

he's he has no quarter He literally has no starter

5:32

other than Andrew Lucks. He's scrambling. He's

5:34

trying. He's been trying to get Nick Foles for me for a while.

5:36

But I didn't like the offers. At one point, you

5:38

offered me Avie Williamson before the

5:41

injury, glad I told a said note to that. Uh

5:43

so anyway, but last night he made a good

5:45

offer. I mean you can tell he's desperate,

5:47

you know, because of the the

5:50

loss of Arew Lucky now has to make

5:52

a and if he gets my attention, and he

5:54

got it, he offered me. Uh,

5:58

Tyler Boyd and Anthon

6:00

Collins four

6:02

Garoppolo now

6:05

in this league, Jim, I'm strong up wide receiver. Boy

6:08

I don't even know if you crack it, I start on a

6:10

weekend and week I'd be a magic because I am a very

6:13

strong at wide receiver. Landon Collins

6:15

probably a start for me, But I don't know if issues

6:17

that safety either. Everybody in this league has issues at running

6:19

back, you know, and That's where I'm going with here. He

6:22

countered, which are free? Cohen?

6:26

Would you do this movie at both for Garoppolo?

6:28

He wants Groppolo won't. Uh. If it's for Folds,

6:30

I would do. I would do even deal for foals Garoppolo.

6:32

I'm hesitating on I understand he has issues. I wanted

6:35

to do it for Cohen Cohen,

6:38

it's not enough for me at this point. UM

6:41

team. You know they've already to come out and said they're gonna,

6:43

you know, lower his touches from last year,

6:46

Um, which is concerning at best

6:48

for me and and at worst, Like I

6:50

said, I love Montgomery and

6:53

you know he catches the ball out of the

6:55

backfield, you know very

6:57

well. So I'm not saying, you know,

6:59

he's got that explosiveness

7:01

that Cohen does have and we know that, and Cohen

7:04

will still get his pieces. I

7:06

just think it's gonna be very, very hard

7:08

to count on from week to week.

7:11

You're talking about a guy here that I consider

7:13

at this point best a why

7:16

bye week filler, an injury

7:18

maybe filler. But man,

7:20

I couldn't do that for a starting quarterback,

7:23

especially when you know we needs one. Push

7:25

him. Get him, get him to give you a better running

7:27

back, even if you have to throw another piece

7:29

in on your at a running back, if that's what you

7:31

need, if you're so flush at wide receiver,

7:34

offer him, you know, the Garoppolo

7:36

and a wide receiver and get a better running

7:38

back. But Cohen is not gonna fix anything for

7:40

you. And at that point you're you're

7:43

selling low on Garoppolo with

7:45

all the new current news we had, although we

7:47

had a decent game last night. Um

7:50

so yeah, I think you're selling low on him at this

7:52

point. I would want more. Uh

7:55

two things. One, I agree with you, I

7:57

will. I already turned down a deal for Garoppolo.

8:00

I did say I do it for foals. He has gotten back

8:02

to me. As far as a better running back, poor

8:05

Matt Uh, Cohen is his best running

8:07

back. He has no other running back after that. His

8:09

best running back is ap A. J.

8:11

Pierson. That's it. He's got nobody

8:13

after that. Yeah, he's uh, he's got he's got issues.

8:16

He's got issues. I think he uh, I

8:18

think he may have won this LEA a couple years ago. He must

8:20

have made a lot of trades and he has a great defensive

8:22

team. Because really he's got he's got issues. Um

8:25

My. The reason why Cohen interests me, I am

8:27

a Melvin Gordon owner in that league, and my running

8:29

backs are not deep at all. That

8:32

I got to want to fadame him. Paul and Mac those

8:34

are my top two stars. After that, I don't

8:36

really have much, you know, I got Josh Adams, Jase

8:38

Edmonds, Uh, that's it. That's

8:40

all that j J. If he have a science. That

8:43

was one of the fun things about that league. It's not

8:45

like it's really hard to build a

8:47

strong lineup across the

8:49

boards. You know, either either you're really good

8:51

at the defense or you're really good at offense. But

8:54

the building across both spectrums

8:56

was really hard, which was one of the things

8:58

I wanted when I designed to So I'm

9:00

glad it's still going strong. It

9:03

is. It's a lot of different owners every year, we're probably

9:05

three four different owners. People drop in and out over

9:07

time, but it's it's a fun league. I

9:10

have little I'm the Buffalo Bills. I've lost in the championship

9:12

three straight years now, so I'm getting taken crated.

9:15

Yeah, I got girly a couple of years ago. Last

9:17

year, I was it's never even been closed. That's I guess

9:19

that's the good thing. It's never even be closed. I've gotten blown

9:21

out. I've known by you know, by four thirty on

9:23

week six and I'm done. You know, it's any

9:26

crush. So I didn't have to. I didn't sweat

9:28

anything out. I've got my doors ball, you

9:30

know, my brains beat in. But I said,

9:33

I'm curious to see if you'll do it for folds. I'll do folds

9:35

for because fol is really an extra for me I do. It's

9:37

a cut down league, and I got players to cut, and

9:40

uh, I'm struggling with somebody's cuts,

9:42

so I wouldn't have an issue here. But we'll

9:44

see when he comes back with him. He does it during the show, but

9:46

he was sending me emails at two three am, so I don't know

9:48

what time he's waking up today. God

9:50

bless Matt. Matt. Matt's a little nuts

9:52

for these things, but God bless. We'll see what he comes

9:55

back with. And uh, we'll see what's

9:57

going on there. All right, So you

9:59

you dropped Mac, so have I. Uh, it's

10:01

gonna it's gonna be tough for Indian apples there.

10:03

Let's get to the conspiracy theory because I don't want

10:05

I don't want to forget about this. Uh,

10:09

you know, it just a it was a weird situation

10:11

now and then one said you had a draft. I had that was not

10:13

watching this live. You know, I was at a friend's

10:15

house. There was no TV, so uh only

10:17

heard about this later and because I actually

10:19

asked um the

10:22

Chris watch his son during the draft. I'm like, is Indianappois

10:24

home tonight when came out, and he goes, yeah, yeah,

10:27

And then you read it Andrew Luck was yucking

10:29

it up on the sidelines. When I say that, I don't

10:31

mean that derogatory yell. He was talking out on the sidelines

10:34

when news came out. When you found out, when I found

10:36

out, that's when the fans found out in the stadium.

10:38

I mean you. I originally

10:41

thought that maybe somebody from the team who was

10:44

peid off leaked this, but I think

10:46

your explanation is probably better. Go ahead,

10:48

Jim, Well, yeah, I wasn't

10:50

actually watching this during during the OX and I

10:52

had my TV and yeah, he was on the

10:54

sideline talking with his you know, the players

10:57

on the team, and no doubt about it. And then

10:59

the news broke. And they

11:01

originally said that he had planned the

11:03

news conference for Sunday, but I

11:05

guess once the news broke, they felt they had to do

11:07

it right now, and they set up

11:10

an impromptu new press conference

11:12

and he went right in and you know, he

11:14

was in a T shirt and everything, and even

11:16

he said, look, this is not the way I

11:18

wanted to do this, or look, but really

11:21

had no choice, and then he went on to tell

11:23

why he was retiring. So, yeah,

11:25

it caught everybody by surprise, the fans

11:27

and everything. And you know a lot of people are saying

11:29

I was, like you said, somebody

11:31

in the team must leaked it because they were pisted it happened.

11:34

But I don't think that's the case. Look, Adam Schefter

11:36

has tentacles everywhere, He's got contacts

11:38

everywhere, and this paperwork had to be

11:41

filed with the league, So more than

11:43

likely they filed the paperwork with the league

11:45

and somebody in the league office got

11:48

got it to Schefter and that's

11:50

where the news came from. I don't think it was

11:52

anybody in the team that would

11:54

have done this, uh piste off or

11:56

not. I just don't see that happening. Not

11:58

a good look for the team during the

12:01

game that they would want that to

12:03

happen. You know, after the game, when the fans

12:05

are going home, that's fine. You know, they

12:08

had their good time at the stadium, watched

12:10

the game, you know, enjoyed what they saw.

12:12

That was good. To do it in the middle of the game,

12:14

you know that that just turned everybody off.

12:17

So I don't think it was a team at all. More than

12:19

likely it came from the front office. Yeah,

12:22

you know, and I like my conspiracy theories, but you

12:24

know, then when you think about it largely, you're probably

12:27

correct. Uh. Still to find

12:29

out, I mean, I wonder

12:31

do you think his teammates new because

12:33

man, if you know you're right

12:36

playing for that team. And also we find out Andrew, look

12:38

what you're retiring, you're hedn't tell him. Wow,

12:40

I'd be I would not be happy, Jim,

12:43

I would not be happy either. Um,

12:46

and yeah, I don't know at that point. Supposedly

12:49

this is something they've been talking about, well him

12:51

in the front office for the last two

12:53

weeks, so they've been

12:55

going back and forth. I'm sorry,

12:57

I think to the locker room before the game. Oh,

13:01

there you go. I hadn't heard that yet.

13:04

H was like upset and stuff. But I

13:06

think they they knew before the game started. Oh,

13:08

I'm sure t Y Hilton was upset.

13:12

He was probably throwing out the locker

13:15

room. Um, yeah, you

13:17

know. Uh, it's Look, it's tough

13:19

for everybody, no doubt about it. But you

13:21

know, you could hate Luck all

13:23

you want, but it's

13:25

his body. We don't know exactly what he's

13:27

going through at this point, and he said it

13:30

best for me. You know, this is a game.

13:32

You're playing a game. Sure they're getting paid

13:34

lots of money, they're playing a game. When

13:36

it loses being fun, If

13:38

you can't enjoy being out there and you've

13:40

got millions of dollars behind you, already

13:43

get out before it becomes such a bad

13:46

thing that all of these injuries come come

13:48

back and all of a sudden he's got lifelong

13:51

health issues because of all these injuries.

13:53

You know what, sometimes you just got

13:55

to step away, whether you like to or not. Obviously

13:58

it wasn't something he wanted to do. Each Is felt

14:00

it was right for him at the time. Let

14:03

me ask you a question, Jim,

14:06

I've had this, George, go right ahead.

14:09

I had this tone with a couple of parents.

14:12

Uh. Now I have girls, so I don't have to I don't have to

14:14

deal with this myself. Your son,

14:17

would you let him play football? That's

14:20

simp would you love? Hey

14:22

you're talking to somebody who played football,

14:24

you know, all his life. But

14:27

if I had a son, would I let him play football? I

14:29

have to honestly say no, I don't think I would. Um,

14:32

yeah, I just don't think I would. There's just

14:34

too much coming out now about

14:37

all the different debilitating things that

14:39

can happen over time. Um

14:42

yeah, I just don't think I would. I

14:47

oh man, it's a you know, it's an I love football.

14:49

I played football too. I

14:52

never I never really had an injury of them being extremely

14:54

sore. I always gonna hurt playing hockey.

14:56

Cool figure. Anyway, Um, would

14:58

I let my son? I said, I have too well, so I'm

15:00

not gonna have to deal with this issue. But

15:05

oh god, I hope not. I don't. I don't have

15:07

to worry. But my younger one, maybe she's a little bull on a

15:09

trying to shop be a good running back. Uh,

15:12

good to be a good punt return. But anyway,

15:14

my neighbor and I had because I had this conversation with

15:17

him because his son plays football. But

15:19

his son's big for his age and he's alignman. You

15:21

know, so that's sort of things. But I was, you know, and he

15:23

wants and he's a huge fan. He played all his life as

15:25

well. Uh, and he's a coach so

15:28

when he plays, so I understood his thinking there. But

15:30

I'm more leaning towards you man. I don't

15:32

think I could. I think as a parent, man,

15:35

I don't look to do that, not, you

15:38

know, not with a hitting at that earlier age. And a

15:40

lot of doctors believe you shouldn't be playing contact

15:42

football until what really school, and even

15:44

then it's if because the brain is not developed head

15:46

craney whatever. So now I kind of believe

15:48

that. I think they're you know, I don't think they're over overestimating

15:52

the injury impact there. So I

15:54

don't know if i'd let my, uh my

15:56

son play either, if I had that decision

15:58

to make. But it'd be tough because I

16:00

mean this, if your kid wants to play and he said eight, Dad,

16:02

can I play football? Dad? And you want to play football? Mean,

16:05

I don't know if I keep telling him no, Jim,

16:08

Yeah, it's tough. I guarantee it would

16:10

be tough. There's no doubt about it. I would

16:12

steer him a little bit more torge basketball because

16:15

those contracts are nicer either, but you

16:17

know, I would have to temper it by saying, hey,

16:19

look, son, you know you're never gonna get taller than

16:21

six ft, so you know, always think you're

16:23

gonna be a point guard. Brought

16:27

That was an argument I had when on the show. Would

16:29

you rather be uh. You know, I guess

16:31

if you knew your son who's

16:33

gonna play professional sports and his basketball or

16:35

baseball basketball. Yeah, in contracts

16:37

are enormous, but it's only what ten guys on a team.

16:40

Yeah, that's tough. Baseball.

16:42

You got you got beat chance

16:44

making the team. And it's not have

16:47

our complexion. This

16:50

is no one has my complexion. I'm I'm a ghost.

16:53

I scare small children. Man. Uh

16:55

the son, we're just not on speaking terms at

16:58

all. I'm the same way, dude,

17:00

I've always been like that. I got Irish

17:02

skin. It burns like a mother. Oh

17:04

yeah you And I was saying, my mom, I'm three quarters Irish.

17:07

Also, I burned into a lamp. I got my

17:09

lights off of my den because I'll burn into those two when

17:11

I opened up the microwave door. I'm gonna be careful refrigerate.

17:14

Okay, I'm done with the jokes, but I burn, Okay,

17:16

I do like SPF seventy five. I just went to my den

17:18

with towenge as who told me you do not go outside without

17:20

protection. And she was dead serious, and get

17:22

thanks, like I didn't know that already. Yeah,

17:24

but I was protection going to help you against the sun.

17:28

I might help you not having another boy. You're

17:30

wearing all that you know, like naked gun. You wear the

17:32

whole thing protection and you're fine against this. We

17:35

begetting fantasy update, Fantasy Tash, Jim

17:37

Daday and George Kurtz will be back

17:39

after That's gonna continue with a little bit of indianapois

17:42

be Cooice told about some other news here. I think

17:44

there was another major injury in the NFL

17:46

last night that it's caused the player the entire season,

17:54

the window. One thing about the Patriots,

17:56

they will overcome it. They overcome Edelman suspension,

17:58

Brady suspension, Awski missing time,

18:01

Josh Gordon missing time last year and the rest

18:03

of the season due to injury. It doesn't matter. This team just

18:05

rolls on. It never matters. Challeng Jones

18:07

gone, Richard Seymour back in the day gone, and

18:09

just keep turning over the roster. The only constant

18:12

is Belichick and Brady and Edlement

18:14

to bus from center. But they keep rowing.

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was sinking Dion Lewis was gonna be the go to

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guy out of the gate because Henry

20:01

the year before really hadn't set himself apart.

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The good thing this year said, nobody's looking at Lewis,

20:06

and you can get him in the eleventh or twelveth

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This is a guy who finished last year as RB

20:12

twenty seven. I don't think he falls too far off

20:14

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20:17

I think he's a good pickup. Watch

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20:29

right, welcome back, we get Fantasy

20:32

Update. He's Jim day Um Georgian Curtains. We

20:35

are the weekend Fantasy up. They do. I

20:37

thought I was Jim Day. You're George Kurtz.

20:40

It's been I didn't get the BEDI two three am, and I'm not sure

20:42

who I am right now. You coined whatever

20:44

you like? Uh, it was tany tan.

20:47

I got home from the draft, Jim, it's twelve, you know.

20:49

And then I recorded the Yankee game,

20:51

so I had to watch the Inanche and recorded the Cowboy game. Yeah,

20:53

I am stupid like that. So I watched the Cowboy game

20:55

and then I got to do it all the retects for the show and make sure I'm

20:57

caught up on everything. Uh, cowboys

20:59

want aready for nothing? Looked really good. Houston

21:02

did not. And that I'll bring us

21:04

to our next topic here, all right, Uh boy

21:07

did a segue for myself. It means ito that worked out

21:10

well. Lamar Milla

21:12

didn't play in any preseason games. First

21:14

carry last night, Tear's

21:17

the a c L was

21:19

official. Uh

21:21

it wasn't at first. Now I think it is. I think they did

21:23

confirm it. I'll check to make sure, but

21:26

that's what I was looking for. I was looking for confirmation,

21:28

but I haven't seen that yet. Let's

21:31

let's see here. Is it official here? Uh?

21:33

That that that Lamar mill or latest

21:36

news, come

21:38

on, come on on the

21:41

the it looks like it's still

21:43

feared. So I guess it's not official

21:45

yet and it may not be official. As

21:47

someone who was torn is a c L. Uh, it may

21:49

take a day or two. Generally they can't. I

21:55

did that playing hockey, by the way, not football. But

21:58

like if anybody who plays sports, by the way, you have a tear

22:00

in your a c L. The questions degree of tear because

22:02

when I tore her mind, I don't be honest with you, it hurt.

22:04

But to tell, even with my ankle hurt

22:07

much more than my knee, you didn't even thought

22:09

about playing again, you know, I thought if I

22:11

told the a c L, I didn't know what was to one mind you,

22:13

but it hurt, went down, went to the locker room.

22:15

I could jog around. Do you know how my skate

22:18

were off? Like, oh, I think I can play the next game. I had

22:20

back to back games. It was something in my head said,

22:22

no, don't do it. It's what you did, a bad injury.

22:24

And sure enough, yeah that suck. Uh, nothing

22:26

worth jim toward my a c O and my doctor.

22:29

I had the Islandist team doctor because I had a connection

22:31

there and he wasn't sure from the m R. I. He

22:33

goes, I'm not sure you will do exploratory

22:36

surgery, which is great and

22:38

so, but he had permission. Obviously, I don't

22:40

want to be opened up twice that if it

22:43

was torn, to fix it. So I wake up from

22:45

the anesthesia. My first question to him is,

22:47

uh, wasn't reconstruct him? He goes, yes,

22:49

I went back to bed. I knew I was screwed. Uh,

22:51

you know, instead of a month of recovery time, I was down

22:54

six to eight months. So that blows. So.

22:56

Yeah. So, assuming

22:59

he did tear, they say reports are that he

23:02

did or likely did, I

23:04

guess my first question is, Duke

23:06

Johnson, how far

23:09

up are you are? Is he going to be that kind of back

23:11

or is this role really not change you all that much?

23:13

At least at least not that they get somebody

23:15

in there. So, Duke Johnson, how

23:18

far you're moving him? Well, I'd already

23:20

moved him up as soon as he got traded to Uston.

23:22

I moved him up with tonge And just because I think he fists

23:24

his offense great, especially behind the

23:27

bed offensive line. You know

23:29

Watson wants to get that ball out of his hands as

23:31

quick as it can and that's exactly

23:33

what Duke Johnson does. You can get him the ball anywhere

23:35

around the line in the scrimmage and he could turn

23:37

him into huge gaines. And you know, it was

23:39

only two years ago where this guy was

23:41

a top twelve running back in Fantasy

23:44

PPR. I look for him to get close

23:46

to that again. Maybe not quite into

23:48

the top twelve, but he's still gonna do huge.

23:51

Look, they still need to find somebody else

23:53

because he's not in every down back.

23:55

You don't want him touching the ball two

23:57

hundred fifty three hundred times a year.

24:00

You know, he's never done it before. I had to have

24:02

concerns with it. So don't be surprised

24:04

if they're out there looking for somebody else

24:07

that can take over the that early down

24:09

on work. He will Duke Johnson will

24:11

still absolutely be heavily

24:13

involved in this offense, but

24:15

you don't want him as a complete three down back.

24:18

Get somebody who can do that early

24:20

down work and can do goal line work and

24:22

they'll be happy. So I'm sure they're

24:24

gonna be looking at final cuts for that or you

24:26

know maybe they right now they could be

24:28

in in contact with d Charges

24:31

and talking about Gordon somebody like that.

24:33

Who knows. Um. They surprised

24:35

everybody with the Duke Johnson trade. Uh,

24:38

nobody really saw that coming. And you

24:40

know, while I think that trade was excellent

24:42

and it was great for Duke Johnson as well, fantasy

24:45

owners had had him because before that news,

24:47

I had still drafted him a lot, hoping that he'd

24:49

get traded, but then that this was the perfect

24:52

situation to me. I love Duke Johnson

24:54

now, so I have him. I think I currently

24:56

have him as my number uh

25:00

twenty one running back, but I think

25:02

I could even move them up from there. Well

25:05

that's not I like you. I agree with you on all points. By the way,

25:07

I'm a big Duke john Kisons guy as well. I think I drafted

25:10

him in the Frenzy League. I'm not

25:13

sure they, but I know I got him in one league I wanted next

25:15

night too, but he went to up before I could get him.

25:17

Uh, and we didn't know about the Miller injury. By

25:19

the way, it was fun telling that owner about the injury

25:21

too. All Right, you want to see a look of just you

25:24

know what you know just shock.

25:27

He's like, what, I just drafted him like five minutes

25:29

ago. Well, now you don't have him. You

25:31

know, I've done,

25:33

I've done. I've done drafts

25:36

already and I literally

25:38

had zero shares of

25:40

Lamar Miller. I'm

25:43

with you there nowhere near nine one

25:45

and maybe a ten percent of what you do. But I don't

25:47

have any shares with Lamar Miller ready here. I wasn't drafting him

25:49

and I'm not a big believer at all. So

25:51

that's one that didn't hurt me. And I only had luck in one league.

25:54

Uh as far as that's concerned. All right,

25:56

So you hit on a lot of things that I want to talk about.

25:58

Well, I agree with you about Duke. I'm not gonna hit. I

26:00

think he's you was a low end running

26:03

back to before this, you know, and now I think

26:05

he moves up. I don't think him

26:07

quite top twelve on, not that it

26:09

wouldn't shock me, but I'm not gonna go that crazy. But I think

26:11

he's somebody want. Yeah, but that's

26:14

what that's what I say. I have him,

26:16

you know, two, somewhere in that range,

26:19

but he still has upside to move at

26:21

that point, which makes me even feel better. But

26:24

I can't put him in the top twelve right now.

26:27

Now you mention something. Uh, you and I are on the

26:29

same wavelength too much here. I also

26:31

believe that they are probably gonna have to bring somebody

26:33

else in. Does that mean you don't believe in I

26:36

mean the fantasy purposes here, Buddy Howell,

26:38

Josh Ferguson, uh, Maria

26:41

Cross, Taiwan Tone. I mean there's

26:43

an old jack, right. Do

26:47

I believe in any of these guys? Uh?

26:49

You know, no, Now

26:53

I don't think. I don't think the early

26:55

down back is on the team right now. I

26:58

really don't. You know, there

27:01

was some early rumblings out

27:03

of training camp about Crockett, um,

27:05

you know, playing well and stuff like that,

27:07

and maybe they give him the shot, But

27:10

man, I don't I don't know if i'd

27:13

want to count on him as my early down

27:15

back right yet. Um,

27:17

you know, I don't know.

27:19

They could surprise us and decide to go with him.

27:21

He's got that body size, He's what I

27:24

think five of elements who pounds,

27:26

so he's got some he to him. Uh.

27:28

So you know it could be they they

27:31

decided to give this U d f A

27:33

a chance here would show it

27:35

would surprise me a little bit, But man, I still

27:37

don't know if I'd take a chance on him in fantasy. No,

27:41

I'm with you. I don't believe in anybody,

27:43

any any of the backs on that roster. I don't.

27:46

I think they're gonna have to bring in somebody from the outside,

27:48

all right, Well, because scenario one first, uh,

27:51

cut down guy, a free agent guy. I'm

27:53

gonna bring up this name. Uh And I sort

27:55

of mentioned him before, somebody I actually have in

27:58

that deeply with talking about that's not Lee on

28:00

a team. J Ji could

28:03

Ji help? I

28:05

absolutely think j j I could be could

28:07

be a help for them, and they get them cheap at this point.

28:10

And look, he is a decent early down back.

28:12

He's is a decent goal lineback. He would

28:14

absolutely fit what they're looking for. Again,

28:17

he's not gonna get much outside of that, but that's okay,

28:19

that's you don't need that. That's what you have Duke Johnson

28:22

for. Uh. So, Yeah, I think j

28:24

j I would make it a great addition for them.

28:26

And I wouldn't be surprised if we hear them

28:28

saying they're bringing him made him camp tomorrow for a trial,

28:31

maybe even today. Yeah,

28:34

j I uh, he's he's also coming

28:36

with toy a c L. He's something a week five

28:38

of last year. But he has received full tments

28:41

all right, and you'll see this FULK clearance a month ago.

28:43

So he's healthy and I'd be surprised

28:45

he's not been at least brought in. He's not a

28:47

long time solution, but for a guy for a year, he's

28:50

only twenty six. We know he's got the authritic name of the the nee

28:52

on knee condition there uh neon

28:54

bone. But he's I think I'd

28:56

be surprising he's not colden. Now.

28:59

Uh, there could be somebody from cut down Day obviously the Friday

29:02

that could happen. We'll have to wait and see for that. You

29:04

put up the scenario. I've been mentioning this for weeks. I know I mentioned

29:07

with you and Frenzy have certainly talking about what

29:09

I mentioned on Twitter last night. I

29:11

think the Texans would almost be doing

29:13

themselves at disservice if you don't call

29:16

the Los Angeles Chargers and

29:18

find out about Melvin Gordon. I don't know

29:20

if I'm a charge if I would trade Gordon to

29:22

a team at the threat in the a f C. I

29:24

don't know without getting a really good price

29:26

back. But I like what you said there. Uh

29:29

So, I guess my question to you is, do

29:32

you think they'll call let's go through. Do you

29:34

think all the charges will would entertain

29:37

trading Gordon to Houston? I

29:39

think they would absolutely. At this point,

29:41

I think they realize, well, they

29:43

know themselves, they're not going to back down. It's

29:45

just the organization that we know from

29:48

past. They just don't back down. So

29:50

at this point they have to be concerned that Gordon

29:53

has got his heels dug in so deep

29:55

that he's gonna sit out a good portion of the season.

29:58

And you know, ultimately, if they're okay

30:01

with having him sit out a good portion

30:03

of the season with the guys they currently have, then

30:06

why not trade him and try and get something

30:08

for him. They're not gonna get anything from him

30:10

if he only plays four or five games this year

30:12

and then it's gone, So why not try

30:14

and get something for him? Now you know it's

30:16

the price is gonna be a little depressed

30:19

because they know they have them a little bit on the hold.

30:21

But at the same time, Houston needs somebody.

30:23

Uh So, look, they have to

30:26

be on the phone. That's part of a GM job,

30:28

no matter what, you've gotta be testing the waters,

30:30

see what the options are. So

30:33

they have to do that part um and

30:35

you know, as a charge of GM, you have to

30:37

do the same thing. You have to take calls see

30:39

what people are willing to offer for him.

30:41

At this point, you have no choice. That's that what

30:44

does it entails? If you're not doing that,

30:46

then you're not doing your job with

30:50

you if you have no intention to trading, you

30:52

have to see if this was out there. Maybe you'll make you know off for once again

30:54

that you can't refuse that sort of deal there. Uh

30:57

now, I'm gonna throw a name at

30:59

you. I'm gonna turn this on you. I'm gonna

31:01

throw a knee you that we

31:03

haven't heard in a while that I

31:08

think is another guy they should absolutely

31:10

be thinking about getting in and that's Orleans

31:12

darkwa Um. He missed

31:15

the entire eighteen season because

31:17

the injury, but he's fully healthy now. He's

31:19

tried out for a couple of teams are already

31:22

and hasn't really done much. But this is a

31:24

guy that you know, did pretty well for the Giants

31:26

in seventeen average four point

31:28

four yards that carry had seven fifty

31:30

rushing yards, had five rushing TVs. He

31:33

can catch the ball, he had nineteen receptions,

31:36

Um, you know, and I

31:38

just think that he's another guy that they

31:40

could get cheap, that could do that early down

31:42

work for them and open the door for

31:45

Duke Johnson to do the rest. So again,

31:47

it you know, it really depends on do they want to go

31:49

out and invest draft picks and a guy

31:51

like Gordon, who you know, has a lot

31:53

of wear and tear, has bum knees, you

31:56

know, do you want to Because not only are they going

31:58

to have to give up a pick to get him or something

32:00

like that, they are gonna have to give Gordon

32:02

in a new long term contract and it's

32:04

gonna have to be big enough to make Gordon happy.

32:07

And I'll tell you the one thing I haven't looked

32:09

into here is I don't know if they have the cap

32:11

space to even bring him in. So

32:14

they may not have that option of going

32:16

that high. They should still make the call and

32:18

see what happens, but they may not have

32:20

the option of going after him in reality,

32:23

and they may have to take one of these lesser backs.

32:26

My first thought would be JG I, but

32:28

I couldn't I couldn't fault them at all if

32:30

they could bring in Arleans Darka in. He

32:33

looked like a good viable back and you

32:35

know, if he's anywhere near back to fullies

32:38

full strength at this point, he could offer

32:40

them a great early back

32:43

that doesn't cost them pretty much

32:45

anything at this point. Well,

32:48

they have to bring in guys like this. I mean, I

32:50

think you're right they you have to bring him in.

32:52

His last probably was what Cleveland once again about a

32:54

month ago that we've uh that was reported,

32:56

so we know he's out there. He's clear. He had the

32:58

achilles injury, but he's clear, so he's

33:01

healthy. They have to gain guys like Doc have

33:03

the main guys like a giant whoever impresses you as

33:05

soon you don't want to go a trade route, that's how

33:07

you have to go. You don't have a choice here. Now

33:09

you mentioned very interesting, that is

33:12

very important about their Chris Tallery

33:14

Couch. I'm looking up right now to see howich room they have

33:16

left according to Spotrack, Uh,

33:18

we'll find out there. Um,

33:20

there are other names out that's Melvin Goring. I

33:22

think I'm interested because

33:25

oh, they playing a cas space. By the way, they can do it okay,

33:29

yeah, whoever they want, but

33:32

then a part of that money. Also, how about

33:34

a name here? You know, jud Damian Clowney has to be

33:36

signed to, you know, and he could take up

33:39

a decent portion of that. So was that

33:41

also the play into this? And some people how

33:43

about Clowney for Gordon? You know, you have to

33:45

go to trade draft picks. I don't know if the Charges really

33:47

need Clowney. They're pretty stacked unto

33:53

good or great player in the rotation. I

33:56

guess you can move it a defensive end or linebacker.

33:59

But it's uh, the interesting

34:01

to problems, Uh to contract guys, and I'm

34:03

going problem guys, but they're too contract

34:06

problems. How about that? But uh,

34:09

I mean Duke Johnson went went for

34:11

a fifth and I con that conditions to a fourth,

34:13

but we don't know what the condition is? Was that what it was? I

34:15

believe I think it was contingent on playing time?

34:18

All right? So what does Gordon? Course, if

34:22

you were Jim Day, you're a GM of

34:24

a Charge, is Jim all right? You I'm

34:26

I'm a gim of Houston. I give you a call now, you

34:29

know, Houston, listen, we gotta

34:31

good team here. I could challenge you. You're a good team

34:33

too. We're both threats here are

34:35

you? You're not gonna gonna You're not gonna give me Gordon

34:37

for a fourth round pick, right, You're not? You

34:39

can I assume you're gonna want more than that. So

34:41

what do you want from me? What do you want from the

34:43

Houston to make this worth of you? Yes, you

34:46

have no plans on. You know you're not signing Gordon.

34:48

You know what's going on. And I tortually believe that Gord's

34:50

not going back until week eleven. You know that's happening.

34:52

Here. You can get this payroll off the books.

34:54

Here, you can get something from him.

34:57

What do you how it is? How low are

34:59

you willing to go? Obviously want a first round pick

35:01

if you can get it, But how long You're never gonna

35:03

get a first round round pick. You

35:06

won't even get a second round pick for Gordon. Um

35:10

at best, absolutely best.

35:13

The most you can be looking for is a third round

35:15

pick, and even that's gonna be shoddy.

35:17

Um. Look, there's other options they can go

35:19

for a Look, I'll throw another name at you that could

35:22

could or should be in the mix, and that's

35:24

Josh Adams For Philadelphia became

35:27

a pretty much forgotten man. Yeah,

35:30

you know, he's pretty much a forgotten man now that they

35:32

have Jordan Howard and Miles

35:34

Sanders. Um, so why

35:37

not? At that point you're talking about a guy

35:39

in the other conference. I

35:42

don't know if they give him up for free, but you

35:44

know, you you, uh, you

35:46

might be able to get him for a fifth round pick. And

35:49

for me, you know what, if I can get a player

35:51

like that for a fifth round

35:53

pick, on the one side, I definitely do it.

35:55

The one thing we know is that too

35:58

many fifth round picks go want to do

36:00

nothing in this league. The percentage

36:02

is really high. Uh. It's a very

36:05

hit or miss round anyway. So

36:07

if I get a fifth form uh,

36:09

you know. On the other side, if I'm Philadelphia,

36:11

I'd want a little bit more. But if I'm

36:14

used in I'd be happy if I got him for a

36:16

fifth bill

36:18

though, he goes, I wasn't kidding the philadel

36:20

Eagles with one of the teams I was going to bring up here as as

36:23

a team that the charge the Texas should

36:25

call Jordan Howard, Miles Sanders,

36:27

Darren spros Corey Clement, Wendell Small with

36:29

Josh Adams, Wilson Scott, Danielle

36:32

Pumphrey. Three of those guys aren't making the team,

36:35

right. But the only one that would fit what Houston needs

36:37

is Josh Adams. And but he's

36:39

one of the three. I think he's getting cut. Howard

36:42

Sanders, Proros Clement, they're not going anywhere.

36:44

It really comes down to small with her Adams, you

36:47

know who that fifth one. And even they

36:49

may not keep five running backs, it might come down

36:51

to whichever one can play on special teams, which I Adams doesn't

36:54

really do. So I

36:56

think Adams maybe cut here. My point is

36:58

this, even if you don't want to wake a Friday cut down,

37:00

they would want to take the chance. I would get that maybe someone

37:02

else claims more for you. You're not to be in a high claim water.

37:04

I don't think it's gonna quote your fifth. I

37:07

think you get it for a seventh, maybe making a conditional

37:09

six depending on playing time, that sort of thing.

37:11

You know. I think if you really think

37:13

he's gonna be cut, and I agree with you, but I'm

37:16

not sure I agree with what that he's

37:18

gonna be cut. Um, I'm not so sure

37:20

he is. Either power goes down and he's

37:22

there, gonna need I think you can get

37:25

him a cheaper That's what I'm saying. That I don't think a ut

37:27

I got another team for Jim. That I think Detection

37:30

should give a call to you as well, that I think has a

37:32

little depth of running back here and we'll talk about

37:34

that. Uh oh, I

37:36

want a groove first. Oh

37:40

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37:55

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37:57

what his numbers are gonna look like at the end of the year. He's

37:59

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38:01

runs driven in sick so

38:04

Freeman playing in the lineup, batting

38:06

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38:08

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41:07

You know, I first heard this song on an old

41:09

episode of Stingray back in

41:11

the eighties. That's where I always remember this song from.

41:13

I don't know why, that's where. He

41:15

didn't hear this song until the eighties. Uh

41:19

yeah, probably your early eight He thinks things

41:21

like four. So yeah, damn,

41:25

sorry, I don't you know. It's funny grow growing

41:27

up my Uh, by the way, it's Weekend Fantasy

41:29

to Day, Jim Day, George Kurtz. Growing

41:31

up, my father was a country music fan. My mom was

41:33

more what would they called country

41:35

to Western I guess, so, you know,

41:38

it wasn't too much rock going on in the house. But

41:40

I got into rock probably late seventies,

41:43

around eighty. The MTV generation certainly helped

41:45

as a big MTV guy, So

41:48

that's when I first started getting into it. And

41:50

uh, my favorite band is Genesis. Uh,

41:53

I'm a I'm a Floyd Who fan. If

41:56

you called me on my phone, I mean he calls me a phone, you'll hear

41:58

who are you? Is my ring tone? There makes

42:00

sense. Jim Day calls and here who are you? You know

42:02

who are you? Jim Day would hear no

42:04

reply at all by Genesis as

42:07

far as I'm ring back usually who can it be? Now?

42:09

But Verizon doesn't work for that song anymore. So

42:11

I'm very depressed about that. Uh

42:14

so, yeah, that's that was me? H too much? And

42:17

phone? Oh

42:20

you name? Uh? I have a

42:22

lot more ring back. People call all

42:24

the time, like when Mike can know our boys calls,

42:26

he gets uh, Cable TV

42:28

by weird al you guys,

42:31

So Scott annual guest Monday Night Football,

42:33

Tonys card I, Gainst Radio Gaga. I

42:36

don't even want to talk about Tony this morning. He

42:39

was supposed to be in that auction last night that didn't

42:42

show up. Like I couldn't get him on the phone. I couldn't,

42:44

he wouldn't answer text or emails.

42:46

And then finally this morning I get an email from

42:49

him saying, oh, I'm sorry, I didn't realize

42:51

that was last night. Sorry, that

42:55

is frustrating you know that's funny.

42:57

Uh. Who was I talking to about this? I

43:00

think it was on the show yesterday. Have you ever played

43:02

in a guillotine league. I love

43:04

guilotine links, not as much as I

43:06

love vampire league. The

43:10

guillotine leagues, that sounds great. I've never played

43:12

more never played the vampire. THEAE that I would love to play in one

43:14

of those is I want to be the vampire. Yeah. That

43:16

that's the way to be in that league. You want to be the

43:19

vampire. You want to be the vamp. Yeah.

43:21

For those who know guilotine league is, I'm sure there

43:23

are different variations, but for the most part, the seventeen

43:25

team league lowest score each

43:27

week is bye bye. Yeah, you get the lowest score in week

43:29

one, you're done. You got guilotine, you got chopped down,

43:31

the sixteen team, so on, so on, so on. Yeah.

43:33

But the big kiicker there is the rest of

43:36

that team. That team gets thrown

43:38

back into the waiver wire, so all

43:40

those players become available each and every

43:42

week. So that's the best part of it. How you

43:44

manage a van has got to be intriguing in that's

43:46

kind of league. Yeah, right, go

43:49

that that's that sounds like so much fun. Vampire League

43:51

is great too, for the most part. Well, the Vampire

43:54

doesn't draft. Everything else drafts. He picks

43:56

up all the people at the waiver wire, and if he if,

43:59

if Jim days the vamp wire and he beats me, he

44:01

get you get to pick one player off my team, any

44:03

player I want off your team. I could take

44:06

your best running back and just say hey,

44:08

thank you. But you're right, yeah, they don't. They

44:10

don't get to draft. They get to pick their

44:12

team when everybody else's draft is done.

44:14

They get to pick the leftovers, um

44:16

and then they are the only team throughout

44:19

the year. They get to use the waiver wire. So

44:21

you know, it has to be really smart and

44:24

you know who you grab it first, and then who are using

44:26

the waiver wire. It takes usually takes

44:28

a couple of weeks to get that first win, but once

44:30

you start getting that first win under your

44:32

belt, the quicker you can get that first win

44:34

under your belt, you can really turn that team around

44:37

quick between the waivers and grabbing

44:39

one player from another team, and man

44:41

by by week seven or eight, usually

44:44

that Vampire team could be quite strong.

44:47

It just sounds like so much fun. It just

44:50

does. Uh, and you know you have a gym

44:52

player who plays in all these leagues. I played a bunch

44:54

of leagues. Uh, just have something different like that.

44:56

I think there's extremely intriguing.

44:59

Uh just a lot of fun. Uh,

45:01

that's a lot of fun here, all right. So we were talking

45:03

about what the Texans could do, and

45:05

you know, Jim guessed that I was gonna

45:07

to our Philadelphia. You know, during the commercial

45:10

break, the producer Jeff

45:12

out of nowhere pulls out the Jets and that they were the next

45:14

team I was gonna talk about, Uh, Jets,

45:16

I'm looking at teeth that have a lot of running backs.

45:19

But we're not talking. They're not gonna trade Levion Bell. Someone

45:21

brought that up on Twitter. By the way, I don't remember who

45:23

that the Jets should trade Bill. I guess was Adam Gaze.

45:26

Not a big thing. He didn't really want to sign Bell,

45:30

right, I think he was should have signed Bell, mind

45:32

you. I was really disappointed they didn't really get in on Bell

45:34

with the over cap room they had. But they're not doing that,

45:37

all right. I don't think Montgomery's going either.

45:39

But you know the name that someone brought up,

45:41

this is someone put up during the last night after

45:43

we heard about this Powell

45:47

Powell, they have Cannon McGuire to they have an

45:49

excess of ourning backs there. I don't think they're

45:51

going to release any of those guys on like Philadelphia, who

45:53

might have to release somebody good. But Jim, once

45:56

again, do you see any of these, any of these three being

45:58

a fit for that Texans offense? Owl

46:00

Cannon McGuire No, Um,

46:02

these are all more pass out catching

46:05

backs, scat back types. Basically,

46:08

you know, Duke Johnson wannabees again,

46:10

they need a pounder. That's what they're looking

46:12

they're gonna be looking for is an early

46:14

down, you know, goal line pounder because

46:17

Duke Johnson's gonna handle the rest. But

46:19

they needed a pounder and none

46:21

of these guys fit that bill. Not

46:23

that they won't fit the bill for some other teams,

46:26

but right if I'm used in, these guys don't

46:28

interest me at all the

46:31

show McCoy, same

46:34

thing. Um at this point his

46:36

career. I mean, all they've been talking about in camp

46:39

is what he's doing out of the backfield in

46:41

the passing game, not about his

46:43

rushing, and we saw last year his rushing

46:45

just doesn't seem to be the same so no,

46:48

he wouldn't intrigue me at all either. I'm

46:51

gonna find one here, damnit. How about

46:54

Gus Edwards. Gus

46:56

Edwards would definitely be in the mix for me. I

46:59

you know, he definitely gives them, would give them

47:01

that early down pounder, that goal line

47:03

back. He can do that kind of stuff.

47:06

I just don't know if Baltimore is gonna

47:09

want to give him up because I think they realized that they

47:11

have really good depth with

47:13

him, uh and without

47:15

him, that that running back group gets, you

47:17

know, a lot, a lot

47:20

less dense, and I want to say at that

47:22

point, So I think that's an issue. I'm not

47:24

sure they give them up unless they get something better

47:26

than what I think Houston would want to give up. I

47:30

mean, I was always surprised they signed Ingram

47:32

only because I thought Edwards, you know, with Justice

47:35

Hill, I can't tax in there as well.

47:37

I guess we can't take in this talk. Also, he's

47:39

not gonna get you intin of a return. I

47:42

was just surprised. I like Gus Edwards. I think he's a

47:44

service will running back. Yeah, he sure

47:46

was. He was serviceable last year, did what

47:49

they needed. I agree with you. I would have liked

47:51

to seen. Uh. Ang,

47:53

I'm gonna go to another team. I like Ingram

47:55

as a running back. You can do a little bit of everything.

47:58

Again, it's more the effect of can

48:00

he learned this RPO offense and

48:03

thriving it? And that's what concerns me. I'm

48:05

not sure he does Alfred

48:08

Morris and then he could be cut by the Cowboys

48:10

if it win. Zeke signs that

48:14

really gets you excited. No,

48:16

I'm I'm just looking at guys that they could possibly

48:20

Uh No, there's there's no one. I think it's gonna get

48:22

him excited, right, I mean that that's

48:25

not gonna happen. They just every

48:27

team once so looking for running backs out

48:29

there here. You know, I

48:32

keep looking. I'm just going down with the team. I'll

48:34

throw another name out at you that wouldn't

48:36

surprise me if if you wanted to be

48:39

happening, that's uh, that's Adrian Peterson

48:41

in Washington. He could easily do

48:43

that role for you, could give you more if you absolutely

48:46

need it. Uh. Last year, he's

48:48

still got plenty in the tank. Look, we're not

48:50

talking about a long term answer here, but they're

48:52

not looking long term right now. They're looking at

48:54

somebody gets them through this season and then

48:56

they could re look at it, reinvest in next

48:59

year's draft, what what they have to do. But

49:01

Peterson would fill that bill, whether or not Washington

49:04

would give up Peterson with all the stepbacks

49:07

guys has had. Now, guys looked pretty good

49:09

this week he moved well, um, you

49:11

know, and that's the first good, really good sign we've

49:13

seen from him. But you know, look,

49:16

he's had setbacks already through

49:18

this, so you know it's hard to say, oh,

49:20

he won't have another. And if he does another

49:22

and they let go of Peterson, they

49:24

literally have nothing there. I

49:28

like that, actually, uh mayf it. Washington

49:30

also drafted Love, so they've

49:32

got some some depth there behind uh

49:35

buying guys. That's actually uh, that's

49:37

not bad. That's not bad. I

49:40

just wonder once again, the

49:42

probably a lot of these probably these trades and these players

49:44

were mentioning besides good and I think we'll go for highness,

49:46

is that they already gone giving up that fifth that turned into

49:48

the fourth. That means nothing. The next trade complicated,

49:52

right, You pretty much can't give up a fourth. You and I both

49:54

assume that John's is gonna hit that

49:56

playing time quota, So that's your fourth. Is

49:58

a fifth good enough to get any these guys and

50:00

if you want to do another condition he much have to do a sixth.

50:03

That turns into good luck with that, you

50:05

know, And we took the values a little less there, But I

50:07

do like that Doug Martin anything here, that's

50:11

sure. But there's no way Oakland let's stud

50:13

up go at this point. He look he filled in nicely

50:15

last year, uh, when Winch

50:18

went down, and he did a good job for

50:20

them over the second half of the season. So you

50:23

know, with the rookie, they're being in place. And

50:25

you know, while he was the love

50:27

of everybody early on in camp, that

50:30

shine has come off a little bit in recent

50:32

weeks. And you know, the talk is,

50:34

you know he's looking okay, and you

50:37

know, uh, maybe he's the three

50:39

down back. We're not sure. So

50:41

I don't think they give up Doug Martin at all.

50:44

But I will throw another name at you that

50:46

could very easily become part of I think

50:48

I know where you're going. I think I know where you're going there,

50:50

and I'm gonna go with Carlos Hide. Oh

50:54

no where Okay. There there's a lot

50:56

of people around that organization beat

50:58

writers. Everybody asked to Yeah

51:01

that that are talking about Carlos Side is probably

51:03

gonna be cut. Uh. They

51:05

want to go with the three younger backs, and you know,

51:07

they feel that they have plenty of depth there. They

51:10

play the struck there and Carlos

51:12

Hide has done nothing to separate himself in

51:14

any way, shape or form throughout

51:16

camp. So you know, Carlos Hide

51:18

is somebody that you know, they could probably get for a seventh

51:21

round pick at this point and take

51:23

the shot on him. Look, I think he'd

51:25

still be serviceable. Again, we're not talking

51:27

about a guy that we want to be a three down back.

51:30

He's gonna get one, you know, one two did first

51:32

and second down, and then he'll get some goal

51:34

line work and cann't sit. But you know

51:37

Duke Johnson is going to pick up most of the rest of that

51:39

work. So you know, Carloros Hide

51:41

would fit that bill and and cost them next

51:43

to nothing. I

51:45

like that, I said, I agree. I think the seventh

51:48

round pick. Uh, if you had the guts and wanted to wait,

51:50

he might even get be cut on Friday, I didn't

51:52

play the first couple of series yesterday. Uh, the

51:54

right is pretty much on the wall there the

51:56

hide. I'm sure now you

51:58

know they pay the game. Well, now we know he

52:00

needs somebody, maybe we won't cut him that sort of

52:03

thing. Uh the team I was going to bring up, how about

52:05

San Francisco right?

52:07

Uh, you know he signed Coleman sort of made mckinnondal

52:09

lecture there most dit Uh

52:12

they both had some injury issues. I don't think it

52:14

trade Brita. Wilson's there as well.

52:17

Any chance they never

52:20

let McKinnon play for them, Uh,

52:23

No, no chance they They invested

52:26

too much in him. Uh it is gonna

52:28

be I think a piece of a three headed monster.

52:31

But yeah, I don't I don't think that happens.

52:34

I don't think. I

52:36

don't see that as being the case. And

52:38

again, you know, if anything Brita

52:41

would fit what Euston needs, McKinnon

52:43

doesn't. He's not in early round dump

52:46

dumper either. He's a past catching

52:48

back. But there's no way they give up Brita.

52:51

Brita has been having a better camp

52:53

than Tevin Coleman. He had a better preseason

52:55

three game than Tevin Coleman. Um,

52:58

he has just looked better and

53:00

I think he's a better running back all around.

53:03

I've been grabbing Brida wherever I can. Heck,

53:05

I did a report for Sports

53:07

Illustrated and said, don't sleep on Matt Breeda.

53:10

Um, you know, because everybody was just pushing

53:13

him way down draft boards. Everybody's grabbing

53:15

Tevin called Coleman. Breeda is good to me,

53:17

is the one who's going to be the best running back in his group

53:20

by years sending. I have a lot invested

53:22

in him. I like

53:24

Breeder as well. I don't like Coleman by the way.

53:27

I mean, you look at George Percarry from last year.

53:30

It was actually pretty good, but I had Coleman

53:32

on a leak or two, and I expected much more when

53:34

Freeman went down, And I remember, I remember

53:36

being angry a couple of times during the OS. You

53:39

kid me all you go, You're you're giving me for

53:41

a past happy office when no one's playing for the role

53:43

to stop the run and you were doing nothing. He

53:45

had a couple of big games, but consistency was

53:48

out the door here. You know, maybe he does something

53:50

with shan Hann and san Fran, but I have my doubts

53:52

there as well. I'm I'm a Breeder believer

53:54

as well. I don't think there's I don't think there's any way they would

53:56

trade him. I think we need to be McKinnon maybe most

53:58

or something like that. That's the way, just to names out there seeing

54:01

what Houston could do. It's a it's a fun little game, all

54:03

right. It's a fun little game. Lamar Miller. Uh.

54:06

It hasn't been completely confirmed genial though

54:08

I know I saw many reports. They pretty

54:10

pretty much know the A C L is torn. Uh.

54:13

Not good from Lamar Uh. He said

54:15

he didn't have first carrier the game in the

54:17

Cowboy game, and he got the knee

54:19

right on the helmet right on the new game, and

54:22

Jim I exa on the Cowboy

54:24

fens. When I watched again a least I watched the first half, second

54:26

half, I saw the lost interest. Uh.

54:29

That offensive line for Houston, no matter who the running

54:31

I get back is that offence was putrid

54:33

last night. Now, maybe they were already down.

54:35

You know, we lost Mill. They weren't really wearing. The game was the

54:37

first home game in Texas whatever Jenny

54:40

Jones calls that place. Uh, but

54:42

generally dallasesn't have a huge home field advantage anyway.

54:44

Now Dallas calls it every good defense

54:47

Yeah, he calls it whatever he wants to call it. Um

54:50

Dallas. The does have a very good defense, but

54:53

Jim, they was like they were living in the backfield,

54:55

I mean Watson. That they got Watson out real quick

54:58

because he was taking hits in the first Series two and they want

55:00

him taking anymore. That offensive line was putrid last

55:02

night? How much How worried are we

55:04

about this? Oh? Absolutely worried.

55:06

Not only that, but they lost their starting right guard,

55:09

Zach Hofulton last night as well. UH

55:11

went down and had to be carted off the field.

55:13

We learned later that it's a bad

55:15

case of turf toe, and heck, we've

55:18

learned we've seen turf toe take a

55:20

long time to get back from UH

55:22

in this league, so that that's definitely

55:24

concerning. He was probably one of their

55:26

better offensive lineman, so that sucks.

55:29

They already have Titus Howard, one of the

55:31

right tackles, having an injury

55:33

with that broken finger that he broken in Week

55:36

two of the preseason. So yeah, they definitely

55:38

had some issues. I'm not gonna be surprised at

55:40

all if this is a team that's out there

55:42

on the hunt also for some more offensive

55:44

line depths, because they well

55:46

they got a lot of guys. They don't have a lot of good guys.

55:51

Yeah, you know, we imagined all these trades,

55:54

uh for Houston Texans. Doesn't

55:56

somebody have to call Washington. I'll

56:00

sure if people are calling Washington, Washington's

56:03

holding off. They want to want they want to Look,

56:05

the word came out in New England.

56:08

They offered the first Washington said no, and then

56:10

then that was that was debunked that they didn't make

56:13

that offer. But you know, usually

56:15

when something like that comes out, something's

56:17

happening. Um, you know, some

56:20

of that is based on truth somewhere along

56:22

the line. Whether or not they offered a one and

56:24

got rejected, who knows. It could have quite

56:26

possibly happened. But yeah, there's gotta be teams calling

56:29

Washington every day trying to make

56:31

something happen here, and Washington knows

56:33

it. Look, Trent Williams has come out and said

56:36

he's absolutely not gonna play for Washington

56:38

ever again, and he doesn't care if he doesn't

56:40

play. He's not going to be on that team. So

56:43

they at this point they have no option

56:45

but to try and trade him. But the need

56:48

is huge out there and I think they're waiting a

56:50

little bit longer to see who else gets

56:53

hurt that they need, you know, will absolutely

56:55

need a replacement. Um. You know,

56:58

look at this point, you know Washington should

57:01

trade Trent Williams to Washington because

57:03

otherwise they gotta start Eric Flowers. I

57:07

love that as a Giants fan they get to start Eric

57:09

Flowers. If I was a Giant's defensive

57:12

lineman, I'd be laughing all the way to the bank. Sure,

57:15

rock, the Eagles are laughing to the

57:17

bank. Cowboys laughing to the bank as well, and then they'll

57:20

get to go up against this guy. I have

57:22

a hard time bleeding. By the way, if thee over for the one walk

57:24

and turned it down, you gotta take that deal. Man.

57:26

We're gonna keep talking about this why Trent Williams

57:29

might end up well where he could help or not help. We

57:31

get Fantasy update Jen Day, George Kurtz.

57:33

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