Hosted by coach and educator Maia Dery, the Waves to Wisdom Interviews are series of conversations with surfers who seem to have ocean-centered wisdom practices. In other words, their regular habit of playing in the more-than-human or natural world helps them make meaning and sense in their lives. All of these interviews take place after a shared surf session, when we are both in our Blue Minds. We discuss surfing, work, love, purpose, and how, for us surfers, the ocean is a part of it all. Produced by Ira Sterling. Learn more at wavestowisdom.com