For this episode Phil talks with Ash Nataanii, lead singer of Missoula band (Phil's fav MT group) FUULS. They talk about Ash's journey as a trans indigenous woman, they talk about grief & capitalism & dystopia, they crack jokes, they talk about Jewish mysticism, they get drunk. Don't miss this ep!

End music by FUULS, with their track "Freudian Slurs" off their 2019 release About-Face. Follow @fuulsruuls on Instagram or look them up on Spotify or Bandcamp for more of their stuff!

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Podcast by Phillip Griffin. Graphic by Cooper Malin.