For this episode Phil talks with Lenny Howes, who owns Ebon Coffee in downtown Billings, MT. They talk about education, capitalism, John Taylor Gatto, and more.

End music by FUULS, with their unreleased track "Bloodmouth." Follow @fuulsruuls on Instagram or look them up on Spotify or Bandcamp for more of their stuff!

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Podcast edited & produced by Phillip Griffin. Graphic by Cooper Malin.