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Welcome back to another bonus episode of
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Until It's Fixed. As
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we cover ways to make healthcare work better for everyone,
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these bonus episodes will draw connections between
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the topic we recently discussed and our daily
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lives. We'll talk about one thing
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that you and I can do today related
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to that topic to take charge of our health and wellbeing.
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Today's one thing is how you can help create
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a neuro-inclusive environment. Last
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week we spoke about neurodivergence and in that
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conversation we talked a little bit about
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support in the workplace through things
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like flexible work arrangements, mental health days
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and other types of accommodations. So
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in today's episode, we're going to talk more
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about how to be a better advocate for neurodivergence
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overall. To help us do that, I'm
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joined by Amy Root, the Director of Neurodiversity
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Inclusion at UnitedHealth Group. And she's
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going to share some tips with us on how to do exactly
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that. So hi, Amy, so glad
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to have you back on the show. And
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I'm curious what you have for us today.
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Yes, thanks for having me back. Well, today
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I think we can talk a little bit deeper about
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regardless of your role, what can you
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do to contribute to a more neuro inclusive
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environment in the workplace? So
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to ground us in today's conversation, can you help us
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understand what neuro diversity is and
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what it means to be neuro divergent?
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Sure. So, neurodiversity, if you break
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it down really simply, it just means brain
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differences. And so humans, by
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definition, are neurodiverse. And
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we know that that's a reality within the human species,
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that there are different brains and wiring.
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And it really refers to the variety of ways that
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people think, process information, learn and
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behave. But when you're talking about
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groups of individuals that have brains
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that would be considered different or divergent
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from the standard or typical, we
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use the terms neurodivergent, neuro-distinct
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or a neuro-minority.
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That makes sense and what would be a way
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for us to understand if our colleagues are
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neurodivergent? Is there an appropriate
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way to have that conversation or ask?
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Yeah, one of the best things that you can do is
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just talk about the different ways that you
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and your colleagues think and process
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information and how you communicate.
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It's hard to single out one individual, but one
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of the best things that you can do is recognize that
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we're all diverse in the ways that we
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think and process information. So being
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sure to share that with each other makes
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other people more comfortable about sharing how they
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might be different and also the ways
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that they can bring their unique strengths.
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That makes sense. So it's less about identifying
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somebody who has neurodivergence and more
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about how do we create this environment to
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be inclusive for all of us by speaking
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broadly about what works, what doesn't work,
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how we can modify things to make sure the team
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feels supported. Is that right? That's
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right. That's really what we encourage with
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neuroinclusion. And it's also a really
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good bet, because also a a lot of individuals
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might not know that they're neurodivergent. That
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makes sense. What are some of the most
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common accommodations that you see
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in your role that might just help us
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get thinking about accommodations
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we can make for folks?
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The most common accommodations are typically
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flexible work arrangements. So
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that would be different locations and
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times in which they can work. I also
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see a lot of requests for communication
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needs. So for example, somebody
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writing down what the next steps are after
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a meeting, or providing meeting agendas
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in advance, or, you know, offering
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written materials in advance for people to process
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and absorb. And then when it comes to like
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the recruitment aspect, what we see as common
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adjustments would be, you know, offering
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different ways to engage throughout the process.
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So if your standard process
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is interviewing individuals over
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the phone or in person, and could they offer
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written questions instead and then allow people
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to have a more thoughtful response and then a different
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timeframe and communication method.
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Those are very helpful for people.
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That's great. What are some of the success
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stories that you've seen in your role? I
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think one of the biggest successes that
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I've seen is that neurodivergent people
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that have already been part of our organization
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are already starting to come out
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and say because of the work
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that we're doing because of the focus and the
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lens that we're having to include neurodivergence,
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they feel a lot safer. So I've had a
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lot of people disclose. I've had a lot
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of people come alongside and be excited
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and to share the vision and to help
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the work that we're doing. So that's been the most impactful
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thing that I've seen. That's great. So
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it sounds like just being open to educate
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ourselves around neurodiversity, and
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also to have conversations with our colleagues
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about what's working and not working
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might be the one thing, right? One
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thing and participate in training as much training
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as that you can get formal would be great. Educate
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yourself. So be curious, ask
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questions, actively listen, find
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out from neurodivergent employees what their experiences
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are like in the workplace and where they might face
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some barriers or some
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stigma or different things
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that they might need to better support their work experience.
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I love it. Thank you so much for joining
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us. Thank you everyone for listening. Join
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us next week as we talk about the increase in home
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and community care, what's working and
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where there's room for change. Make sure
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we will talk to you next week. Thank you.
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