This podcast features a discussion with Chris Pugh. I’ve known Chris for  many years and we first met during a systems integration for a  financial services company. Chris has a wealth of business experience  with a focus on Capital Markets and Retail Banking. His experience  includes consulting, PMO Lead, Program Director, Project Director,  Systems Engineer and others. For more information about Chris: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrispugh/

The theme of our discussion is what  Chris calls “The Anti-PM Project Manager” which tends to represent  Chris’ philosophy of project management and I’m sure, management in  general. We talked about a range of topics about the role of the project  manager but the overall theme was the need for the project manager to  lead rather than just manage the project.

This is an episode of  the Understanding Projects podcast which consists series of discussions  with PM academics and   practitioners about the real world aspects of  projects and project management. The podcast is based on the text  Understanding Project Management - A  Practical Guide by Dave C.  Barrett.