Josh Schachter sits down with Damien Howley, author of "Control Your Customer: A Guidebook for Customer Success Managers". Damien explains the concept of "controlling your customer", the STO framework for segmenting customer contacts, the importance of celebrating every win, and the value of quantifying the customer's gain from a product.

Timestamps

0:00 - Preview & Intros

4:00 - Control Your Customer

5:50 - Interpreting customer experience

8:17 - STO framework

11:30 - Segmenting customer accounts and tracking engagements

15:40 - Customer happiness is over-rated?

18:40 - Celebrating every customer win as a CSM

Damien has spent the last 20 years building, selling, and implementing SaaS. Since the inception of CS, he has worked to develop and refine best practices for revenue-focused customer success teams, helping hundreds of CSMs master their trade. He has served as a leader and advisor in Customer Success.

"The richest relationships I've ever formed with customers have come on the heels of exceptional value delivery." — Damien Howley

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Damien Howley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/damienh/

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Jon Johnson: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonwilliamjohnson/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Josh Schachter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/jschachter/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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