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Music.

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Play Sports Pub happens this time every week, and this time is no exception.

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It is hot. Yes. Very, very hot out, but we are here in studio.

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Nothing like a wonderful 86-o degree studio to record in. Isn't that nice?

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Elijah Jacobs, Phil Tucker, both here, and I, myself, Kenny Mann.

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Phil Tucker, by the way, back from Parts Unknown. Phil, you had a vacation. Did you have a nice time? we had

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a great time had a lot of really great food

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got to see some ancient roman ruins ah

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so yeah just overall a great trip so you're

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not one of these travelers that goes into the ruins and you know messes with

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them and then does something and ruins and ruins the ruins you don't ruin the

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ruins no i i i try and make sure i have respect for uh have you ever seen these

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idiots i mean i've seen the and i call them they're absolute idiots they've

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gone to these He's like, you'll see these videos of people.

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They go to, you know, whatever, pick, you know, a state park or whatnot,

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and they'll knock over a boulder that's been there for like 30 billion years,

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you know, like, or graffiti, you know, something like, what makes you do that?

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It's just such a blatant disrespect. It is.

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It's what a character flaw to think you can go and, and, and,

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and, you know, mess with something that nature provided for us to look at.

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Well, it's like going to what's that the place up in Wyoming.

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What is it? Devil's Tower. Devil's Tower. Devil's Tower, yes.

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And just messing with that. Like, why? I'd love to go there. That's where they did Close Encounters.

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Exactly. That's the whole thing. The movie you really like. Love that movie. Exactly.

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So, I mean, but it's like messing with something that was there.

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Personally, I don't mess with any of that. Yeah. It's just like, I don't know, I feel like something, like a lightning

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bolt would come out and hit me out of the sky or something like that. Yeah, it does, right? Like some sort of karma from the ancient gods that put that there.

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You would think that you can't mess with that. Exactly. Okay.

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Phil Tucker, Elijah, have a nice week. Absolutely. Wonderful week.

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And myself, Kenny Mann. Kenny, did you have a nice week? Yes,

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I did. Thank you, Kenny. Okay. We're here and Phil's back. So that means it's time for some leadoff double

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headlines. Phil, what do we got? Well, so it looks like talk of Mike Tomlin's time being short in Pittsburgh

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may have been a little premature.

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Steelers in a long time have coached, head coach has signed a three-year extension this week.

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You know, we've talked about this before. The team's never had a losing record under Tomlin. Never.

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17 seasons. Yeah. they're actually now sitting at 20 straight seasons without a losing record.

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If they can do that this year, they will tie the Cowboys for the longest streak of non-losing seasons.

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And that's not a current Cowboy streak, right? No, that was the Landry era.

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I'll ask this now because you brought it up. No reason to wait as I fill in

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the blank, but the Steelers' three-year extension of Tomlin is blank.

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It's justified. Yeah, I agree with that. I mean, it's absolutely justified.

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I mean, I don't understand how there was even a talk of his tenure being done.

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Like, based on what? I mean, if the Steelers let him go as a Cowboys fan,

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I'm like, get him on the line right now. Oh, he'd get a job immediately. Oh, yeah. About that.

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Phil, Steelers giving him a three-year extension is blank. A smart move.

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I mean, because who are you going to replace him with?

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Yeah, well, that, you know. You know, I mean, you look at what he's done over

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the last couple of years with that roster, you know, you figure a couple of

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years ago you had a Ben Roethlisberger who was on his last legs.

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You know, still got that team to the playoffs. This year, having to switch to

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Mason Rudolph at the end of the season, they still made the playoffs.

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And had a three-game winning streak going into the playoffs with Mason Rudolph, by the way.

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And the year in between that, they just missed out on the playoffs with a 9-8

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record with a rookie Kenny Pickett.

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I'll say it's just the Steelers.

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You know, it's Steeler, whatever you want to call it. the Steeler way.

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I mean, three coaches in the history of a franchise.

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Now, I didn't go back and do research. I should have. I do not believe there's

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any of the four major sports where at this point, 2024,

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outside of an expansion team that's been around maybe seven,

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eight years, there's no way there's a team out there that has three coaches in its existence.

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There's just no way. I mean, the last expansion team in the NFL was the Houston

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Texans. And they've got a myriad of coaches.

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They've had at least five coaches. And then in hockey, the Sharks have gone through and whatever.

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There's no one close to three coaches in what the Steelers go from 1960, I think.

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So you're talking, what, 40, 64 years?

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Yeah. I mean, three coaches. Chuck Knoll, Bill Cowher, Mike Tomlin.

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Wait, was Chuck Knoll there when they first became a team, like in the 1930s? No, I don't know.

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Are we talking Super Bowl era? Yeah, I'm talking Super Bowl era.

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Okay, okay, gotcha. And, you know, he led them, obviously, to,

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I think, four. Knoll did, and then Tom...

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Cowher got a couple. He got two. He got two.

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He got two. Yeah, and now Tomlin. A lot of AFC Championship appearances from

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Cowher. Hey, you know, this is what the Steelers do.

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So when all the other teams are out there changing coaches every 20 minutes,

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it seems, the Steelers, you can just pencil it in.

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This is their guy. They're very – I mean, you talk about an organization that just is never bad.

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No, they're not. I mean, when have they been bad in your lifetime?

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Unfortunately, never, because I was an Oiler fan. man. They were always good.

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And think about it. In my lifetime, I don't remember a time where they drafted

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in the top five or top ten. It just never happens.

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But good for him. Good for the Steelers, obviously. Yeah.

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And it's going to be, I think, very interesting to see what happens with them this year.

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Because with Russell Wilson there, with Justin Fields there,

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they put some effort into that offensive line in the draft.

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We've got a couple running backs on that team. I mean, it's a,

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and then you got the most, the number one defensive player who is responsible

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for winning in the NFL, TJ Watt.

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So it's a good culture over there and good for him and good for them.

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So they'll, they will be heard from. There isn't, you know. There'll be a force

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to be reckoned with. Yeah. And I'm going to switch gears. I had kind of an odd story as my other one.

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Well, that is an odd story. Yeah. But actually, more of a breaking news today,

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the passing of Jerry West, also known as the Logo. The Logo.

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Not enough time on this program to go through what Jerry West is,

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was, and will continue to be the NBA.

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What he's meant for the NBA as a whole.

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I mean, he's the Logo, but then he's involved in the creation of the Lakers

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culture. Sure. I mean, that's right. The logo, the as a player, as a GM, as a president of basketball operations,

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putting together the team with Kobe and Shaq. Absolutely.

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He's Jerry West. I mean, it's just nothing. There's not much.

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You know, the only equation I have of this to the NFL would have been Madden when Madden passed.

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That's about the same to me, you know, type of iconic person.

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I mean, Madden represented, you know, football as a coach and whatnot.

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Not and then it just is one of the best broadcasters and it

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just kept yeah ballooning out what he meant to the whole nfl

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as a whole and jerry west it's it's almost the same thing players coach you

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know gm president and the logo gosh it's amazing uh how old was 80 maybe 86

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i think 86 yeah you know so sad passing never to be forgotten that logo will be there forever.

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It was interesting because on the way in, I heard one of the national stations

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talking about, I guess in an interview, he said there was like actually five

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people that had been selected. And it was just some NBA marketing guy that said, oh, this is the one that's

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going to fit the shape the best. And it happened to be him.

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So now changing back to my other story I had, this is just one of these odd

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sports stories or sports adjacent, I guess.

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So controversy brewing in the world of competitive eating. competing,

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16-time champion Joey Chestnut will not be competing in this year's Nathan's

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Famous Hot Dog Eating Contest on the 4th of July.

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So apparently the organization is not going to allow him to compete this year

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because he's signed a sponsorship deal with Impossible Foods,

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who also happens to make hot dogs.

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And they make vegan hot dogs. That's the problem here that they're having.

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I'm not sure I had this written as a headline too, if you didn't bring it up.

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I think I fell on both sides of the fence on this twice already today.

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I was reading about it and I went, God, I can't believe they're barring Joey

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Chestnut from doing this. But then I read more and I'm like, God, I can't believe Joey Chestnut is endorsing

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something other than Nathan's.

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And so I've gone back and forth on it.

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Unfortunately, the only thing I can absolutely say

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with a certain degree is that as always this is

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money it's always about money yes even in

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competitive eating and what i didn't realize which i'm not sure if you guys

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did maybe i'm ignorant they pay him 200 000 to do the appearance at coney island

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for this i didn't know that i just thought he won whatever the prize is so look

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forgive the pun but talk about biting the hand that feeds you. Exactly. That's absolutely right.

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So I don't get it, really. Maybe there's more ins and outs to this,

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but if it is that Joey Chestnut is kind of, I don't know, like Phil says,

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bite the hand that feeds you or taking way too much off the tree...

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I mean, then it's on him. I don't know what to tell you. And we know why he's

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doing this, because he switched to impossible foods. Right.

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Because he realized through all this competitive eating, he has to eat healthy.

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I don't care what. If you eat 65 impossible hot dogs, that ain't good for you.

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That's a fair point. So I don't know. Maybe they'll come to some agreement prior to the event.

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But if I'm Joey Chestnut, I'm going, look, I don't know whoever's advising him.

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I'm saying, look, if I don't do the event, I will be forgotten quickly.

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So I got to go do my event. I got to figure this out.

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He's not an NFL player. This is competitive eating. We don't all go,

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okay, what's the next event? This is it. This is it.

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So I don't care if he's going and they're eating pizza slices in Boston in April. This is the one.

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If he's not in it, a new name will pop. Absolutely.

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Yeah. And it's... To me, it's a very strange deal because it's like,

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on one hand, the organization is saying,

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we've had this in place for two decades that you can't be sponsored by another

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company that makes hot dogs and be in this competition. Sure.

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It's like, if this is what made you famous, do you really want to do anything to risk that?

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I don't get it. I don't get it at all.

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Whatever. But on the same time, I can see his side of like, hey,

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I can get the sponsorship with this other company that's going to sponsor me

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year-round, not just one event. Yeah. True.

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I mean, I don't know. I mean, who would have thought, right?

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Competitive eating, and then you're dealing with this garbage. It's so silly.

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So, so silly. Guy eats hot dogs.

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Maybe Kobayashi will come out of retirement. Maybe. There you go.

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There you go. Oh, man. Listen, let me tell you, and I watched on Twitter someone,

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and she was trying to, like, show how many she could do, and it was just more of a parody thing.

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She did, like, six hot dogs in the 12 minutes.

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I do not believe I can probably do that. I mean, I might get to that six number, but I don't get it.

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I just don't get how they do it, obviously. So what's the time? What do you think your number would be, 12 minutes?

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What do you think? If I told you, you know, the most you can do in those 12

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minutes, what do you think the number would be? 10. You think you could do 10? Yeah.

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So you're talking a little bit more than a minute and like, say, 10 seconds per hot dog.

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They're Nathan's hot dogs. Yeah, the Nathan hot dogs with the buns,

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though. Yeah, absolutely. 10? I can do 10. But I wouldn't feel great after that. No, I know you wouldn't.

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I probably... Phil, what do you think you could do? In 12 minutes, I would, I'd say I could probably do between six and eight. Okay.

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Now, how long are they going to stay in there after that? I can't tell you.

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Now, would you do them the way they do them, which is they eat the hot dog,

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the meat part, and then they dunk the bun in water and quickly shove down the

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bun, or would you just eat them?

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I would just eat them. See, but that's a slow process.

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That's what I mean. Not for me. The bread. Yeah. That's why they dip it in the water.

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Yeah, but you see, water is adding more to what- Yeah, but they do it.

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They do it to get it down. Adding more weight to your stomach. I know. I know. It wouldn't- Well.

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You're just adding- How many could you eat if you had to dip it in orange juice?

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That sounds so disgusting, what you just said there. Zero. Zero.

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That's how many I could do with orange juice. Ew. Ew. What about old flower vase water? Stop. All right. Go ahead.

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So that's all I had for headlines. Taking a look at the NHL and NBA finals.

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I got a headline for you. All right. The Madden 25 game.

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The cover athlete will be anybody? McCaffrey.

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McCaffrey. How about that, Christian McCaffrey? It's deserved.

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I agree. It's very well deserved. I thought it was a good choice.

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How many weeks into the season before he gets injured? Yeah, the Madden curse could come out. But good for him.

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Well, I mean, Josh Allen had a good season last year. He was on the cover.

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They didn't win, though. No, he didn't get hurt. You're right. Yeah, but he had a solid season.

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But McCaffrey, good for him. He's great. Yeah, he's one of those people, if you're the NFL and you're Goodell,

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you want to hit your wagon to this guy when it comes to outward persona of the league.

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He seems a good guy. He's a good guy and a hard worker. You don't really hear

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a lot about him off the field.

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What a competitor, right? I mean, every game you've ever seen this guy in,

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And it's just, he's trying hard. There's no let up with him. So good for him. All right.

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Triple Play Sports Pub is rocking along as we just drink our way through the

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show. Now, tonight I'm actually drinking water.

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And Celsius. It's very hot. I'm going to have a Celsius as time goes by. A wild berry.

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Now, I have not seen you with your usual bevy of 19 cans of something. Why?

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I don't know. I just haven't brought them in that much anymore.

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I missed the sound of the cans opening and then the pyramid of cans going throughout

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the show and then toppling during the broadcast.

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I miss all of it. I don't know how many times they've toppled.

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All right. First of all, that'd be a bad idea with the fan in the background.

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It would be a bad idea. It would blow them right over. Phil Tucker's here,

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Elijah Jacobs, and myself, Kenny Mann. Thanks for joining us. All right, so that was Headlines NHL,

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NBA. Phil, where do you want to start? We'll start with the NHL Finals. Okay. Which, you know, that was the only bad

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thing about my trip is whenever I'd pull up ESPN or anything like that,

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it was all EuroLeague and all that stuff because it was defaulting to whatever

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the local there was like, oh, well,

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it's a lot harder for me to keep up with what's going on yeah i

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so i just got to say this i commend kenny big

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time for this he so far was

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really spot on about this nhl series

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so far like you were really spot on not over

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yet but yeah not over yet but so far it's going exactly i'm a big believer i

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mean elijah last week we were here and we spoke on this and i'm a big believer

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in steps in a team and i always resort back to the NFL and I use the Bears and the Giants.

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Now you got to go back 85, 86, those years for those teams.

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Now, if you go to the prior years, that's where you saw what they were becoming.

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And you knew that next step, if they took it, they were going to be great.

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And I felt this way about the Panthers as you watch them. Now they were the

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president's trophy winners, and they got knocked out.

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You know, hard lesson two years ago. Last year, they go to the finals. They lose.

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Hard lesson losing in the Stanley Cup finals. And here we go.

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They worked away all the way back into it again.

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And I feel like those lessons learned pay off. And now they know how to get this completely done.

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It's for them a three-year project.

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We lose when We were the best team in the league.

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A lot of, you know, valuable things we took from that. We go to the finals. We're so close.

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We lose. Hey, you got to get back to it. And here we go. So I think,

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and as I said to you, I just feel like it's their year. It's that step.

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Now, it's not over yet. Edmonton can come back, you know, tomorrow night and

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put one on them and then do it again. And the next thing you know,

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we're in a three-game series. But I still believe Florida prevails.

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You know, I think what just—but more than that, you're selling yourself even shorter with that.

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You said the biggest key to this game was going to be Bobrovsky. Absolutely.

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And so far—I mean, it's not over yet, but so far he has been the key to this.

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Yeah. To have one goal on him when you've got some of the most prolific scorers

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in the league, period. That's right.

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That's incredible. McDavid and Dreisaitl, two of the top six,

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seven players in the world, one assist in two games.

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One assist between them. Yeah. That's it.

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And you could credit Bobrowski, and you should be credited, but Bobrowski doesn't

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keep guys from shooting the puck. Yeah. The defense does. The forwards do. So the Panthers have locked down that

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first line for Edmonton, and they don't have an answer yet.

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They won by three in both games.

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Pretty dominant for a Stanley Cup final. And to win 4-1 and 3-0,

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that's pretty – Three goal leads.

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Well, and if you look at the leading points in the playoffs,

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four of the top five players are on that Edmonton Oilers team.

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Yeah. And they've done nothing. No.

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You know, I've watched this Florida team in every single series they've been in.

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It started with my lightning, and I just watched.

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They play a very mean physical style of hockey.

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And if you're not a team that's ready for that, and then they wear on you.

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It's like they're like one of those big heavyweight fighters that just leans

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on you and slowly wears you out and suffocates you.

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And that's really what this series has looked like so far. Now,

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once again, it is not over by any means.

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But both two dominant wins. Evan Rodriguez, three goals in two games,

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you know, for the Panthers. He's been phenomenal there. Now, they've won two games where in one game they

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were outshot by, I think, almost 15, 16 shots.

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And then when they outshot Edmonton by about 15, 16 shots.

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So it doesn't seem to really matter to Florida which way they have to play defensively, offensively.

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The difference between right now, Florida and Edmonton is Edmonton has one hell of a first line.

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Florida has four very deep lines.

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And that's where this game is getting won. Yeah, it is.

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You know, once you get past that line of Dreisaitl and McDavid,

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and believe me, that ain't easy. You just watch the series. Even though McDavid has an assist.

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That dude is an artist on the ice. He is remarkable with the puck.

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It is as if everyone else is in slow motion when he's out there.

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But that being said, you know, it hasn't equated to goal.

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And Edmonton needs to come up with an answer here.

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Now, you can't answer getting the puck by a guy because that's just the way it is.

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Sometimes you just can't. But they do have to come up with an answer for how

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to get their top line going.

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Yeah, how to get them a chance to get more shots. That's – when I saw – so Monday

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night's game, I watched the first two periods, and then I couldn't stay up.

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I had to, you know, drop off. When I looked at the final number of shots, it's like, this is a prolific offensive

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team, and they only took 19 shots. Yeah.

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That's not going to win you against any games against a top-line goalie like Brodsky.

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No, not at all. You've got to get 30 shots. Before we even got to this point

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in the series, it's like, you know, Edmonton's biggest weakness is they've got

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probably one of the weakest goalie in the entire playoffs. But he's been great for them until now.

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Yeah. Well, no, he's been— Skinner's been pretty good for them until now.

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He's been very up and down. Listen, he got benched in a series and then brought off the bench.

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I mean— But he is not the face of this team.

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No, of course not. But this is obviously, you know, come on,

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this is not rocket science. This game is everything. You can't go down 3-0. So they're aware of that.

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This has got to be the best game they've played all season coming up.

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It has to be. They're at home. They have to win.

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It can't be 3-0. You're going to lose the series if you're 3-0.

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If you're 2-1, you're going to lose the series. Well, you know, then game four gets real fun and exciting and anything can happen.

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But this is it. They put themselves in a corner. This is it.

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They got to come out swinging this next game. Yeah.

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Yeah. I agree. I think this game three is an absolute one or two must win.

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Absolutely. And the best case scenario, they have to find a way to almost chase

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Bobo. If they can get three, four goals in that first period somehow and get

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Bobo pulled for rest, that'd be the greatest scenario for them.

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Because right now they can't figure it out. They can't figure him out. If they can get two or three by him on a first period,

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oh, my goodness, that's the script they want right now. Well,

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to be honest, that might be a bad thing. The best case scenario for them is to win a long game against Bobo and have

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him tired for the next game. I want them, they need to chase him. They need to put something in his head.

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Like, woof. I just don't know if you're going to get in his head.

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I mean, this is a veteran goalie. I mean, it's the playoffs.

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You got to do what you got to do. This guy's been in the league a long time,

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but I don't think you're going to phase this guy.

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I think the best case scenario, actually, is to have a long game that you win.

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I don't think they want to be in that game. They don't want to be 1-1 in the third this time around. But my thing is,

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to win that game, you will have gassed him a little bit. Yeah,

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I don't know if he's going to be gassed. You might be right. You've got to find a way to light him up a little bit.

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And right now, they can't do it. He has been on a tear this entire playoffs.

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Sure has. Listen, he was on a tear last year. That's right. I mean,

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he's found a fountain of youth or something.

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I mean, the guy is, what, 35, 36 years old, and he's playing like a...

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He's been fantastic. Yeah. Turning the page over to the NBA Finals. You've got the Celtics leading the

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Mavericks two games to zero. Game three is tonight.

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You know, Kenny, what did I tell you the last— I mentioned one name to you that

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was the X factor in this series. Kyrie? No, no. I told you Kyrie. No, no. I said—it was the last guy I said.

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Christophs Porzingis. Oh, Porzingis, yeah. If he comes out and he plays lights

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out, Dallas has no chance. And that's what you're seeing in this series. He hasn't played lights out.

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First game he did. He did. He came out swinging, and it was a blowout. I think, and we spoke on this,

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I feel the series, to me, is more about who's not playing. And that was Kyrie.

24:20

Yeah, he's been horrible. And I talked this guy up last week saying,

24:24

this guy's been unreal for them, and he's been quiet, but yet he's been out there producing.

24:29

And this seems like the old Kyrie, and he's got something to prove here to Boston. And he's stunk it up.

24:38

He's gone from the old Kyrie to the same old Kyrie. He's been very average.

24:42

I mean, 16 and 12. Yeah, just can't have that in the final. Boston wins by 18.

24:48

Boston wins by 8. These haven't been really close.

24:51

No, and if it wasn't for Luka Doncic in the second game, this would have been even worse.

24:57

I mean, the thing that is shocking me about this Boston team.

25:03

For two very highly paid twin-headed monsters, monsters in the twin headed monster

25:09

of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum there.

25:12

This Boston team is winning despite those two because they have not been impressive at all in this series.

25:18

They're winning. Boston as a team is winning without them, which is really scaring

25:24

me because if those two, if one of those two guys can go off and have a monster

25:29

game, Dallas doesn't have a chance. Yeah.

25:31

Well, I mean, now granted, and we just spoke about the NHL.

25:36

And going back home doesn't mean nearly as much as it does in the NBA.

25:40

NBA is a much greater home court advantage than the NHL is.

25:46

And I do expect Dallas to rebound here at home.

25:50

I can't imagine them having the season they've had and then falling flat for four straight games.

25:56

So I expect Dallas to win a couple here and make this a series.

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I don't think they're winning it, but I think they'll do that.

26:03

Well, the Celtics have ruled out Porzingis for tonight's game.

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Okay, so that's a big help. That's a big help. And we'll see where it goes. 2-0, though, in the Celtics in the driver's seat.

26:12

All right. Well, that takes us up to our dudes and duds for the week.

26:17

So I'll go ahead and throw mine out there. I'm going to give mine to Bobrovsky.

26:21

He stopped 50 of 51 shots so far in the first two games of the finals.

26:26

Yeah, he was mine also. Bobrovsky, 51 shots, one goal.

26:30

I mean, what can you not do much better? Well, I guess we'll make it a clean

26:33

sweep. That was also mine. There you go. Any honorable mentions?

26:38

Yeah, I do. I have a very odd one. I'm giving mine to a robot.

26:42

So my secondary or my honorary goes to ABS Tech, which is some sort of ball

26:48

and strike system that they're trying in the minors to.

26:52

And I watched a clip about it, and I was so impressed.

26:56

It's very reminiscent of if you watch tennis and you see how they'll challenge

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a call. Oh, yeah, they'll have the automated. And you'll see the ball.

27:04

How they do it, I have no idea. But you'll see the ball, and if it touched the line.

27:07

And the batter that I was watching, and he challenged. It's a challenge system.

27:12

Yeah. And it was a third strike call, and he touched his helmet,

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and that was his challenge. And it was within six seconds they came in and how they do it. I don't know.

27:22

Maybe there's an earpiece to their ump. And he said, it was wrong. It was a ball.

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And they showed the ball missing, you know, and then the it's amazing.

27:31

I was very impressed with it.

27:34

I'm not a big fan of getting rid of traditional things, but I feel umpires have

27:41

changed so much in my lifetime. time that they, I feel like some of them feel

27:44

like they're, they're, they're the game. And I hate that.

27:47

Yeah. And so if this makes it where we get the calls right and it doesn't slow

27:50

it down. Yeah. I'm good with that. This was, I was impressed.

27:53

Yeah. You know, I've been to quite a couple of sound Nashville sounds games

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over the last couple of years where they have started using some more of that.

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And it's very impressive how fast, you know, it's like you worry about anytime.

28:07

Oh, you can challenge and you're going to slow things down. But man,

28:10

this is, this is quick. It's like they're challenging it. Amazing.

28:12

Yes, no, boom, done. Right. It's unbelievable.

28:15

Well, I'll give an honorable mention to Dodgers right fielder Teoscar Hernandez.

28:21

Two homers, six RBIs, and the Dodgers 11-3 win over the Yankees on Saturday.

28:27

There you go. Well, mine is Christoph Spurzingis for coming out swinging in

28:31

game one and really being the driving force of the blowout of Dallas.

28:35

Quite shocking, actually. All right. There you go. Well, when we have our dudes, then we've got to have

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our duds. I'll let you guys go first because I've got a couple choices.

28:45

I have Kyrie as my number one. I felt like he's got a two-game sample here,

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and neither game did he have any impact.

28:53

And so if he doesn't have one on the third night tonight, that's outrageous

28:58

considering this revenge tour he has for Boston. This is terrible.

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Not to mention him talking about saying, I expected the stadium to be louder.

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I don't understand what's going on. I'm like, dude, shut up.

29:10

Yeah, mine's Kyrie also, and mainly because I think you and I both were of the

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impression that he was going to come out and be this superstar and be a game changer.

29:18

I really thought that, and my lord, he's been underwhelming. Yeah.

29:22

All right. I'm going to give mine to Pittsburgh reliever Ben Heller,

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giving up seven runs on five hits to blow a 4-1 lead in the Pirates' 11-5 loss to the Twins on Sunday.

29:35

Okay. I have an honorable Evander Kane from the Oilers.

29:40

Kane's not a defenseman. He's a forward. He's got zero shots in two games.

29:44

And worse than that, he's a minus four on the ice, meaning four goals he's been

29:49

on the ice for against the team. Kane's a good player. For him to be a minus four after two games with no shots as a forward –,

30:00

It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible. And mine goes to a pitcher that I didn't

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know existed until today, actually, when I saw the highlights of this game.

30:09

Austin Gomber, pitcher for the Colorado Rockies, gave up 11 hits,

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two strikeouts, and a 17-9 loss to the Twins.

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By the way, the Twins are, what, average?

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They're an average team. They're decent.

30:26

Decent. I mean, that's atrocious. That is. That is 17-9. They needed a touchdown

30:32

and the two-point conversion. They had a possible shot at that. All right.

30:37

Well, if you want, we'll go ahead and get our three up and three down for the week.

30:41

All right. I'll give it. I'll make mine easy for you. I mean,

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there's not much going on any longer, so my three up is simply the Celtics,

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the Panthers, and the New York Yankees. I've got to keep them in there.

30:51

They're within, right now, one, I think they're at a 6-9-6 percentage,

30:55

and the Phillies are at a 6-9-7 winning percentage. They're hanging. One night we're going to have it where the Yankees are the best team in baseball.

31:02

That's my three up. They were the best team in baseball when they got smacked

31:05

by the Dodgers the other night. What was that, 11-2? I always laugh.

31:08

That really affected them, hasn't it? When Elijah clings to one game in the baseball season.

31:15

One game in the baseball season. I know, I know. This isn't the NFL where a blowout loss matters.

31:20

I agree, but I have to have something to hold on to. I see.

31:25

Well, you ready for my three up, Kenny? Yeah, I've got it.

31:28

Florida Panthers, Boston Celtics, and the New York. There you go.

31:33

As much as I really hate to admit that. Well, my three up is the Panthers,

31:37

the Phillies, and the Mariners. Okay. Three down for me. It's very simple. Again, it's the Mavericks and the

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Oilers. Listen, it's 0-4 when you combine them.

31:46

And Chicago White Sox, they're making history, man.

31:49

Not in a good way. Every time I think that they've got to win a few this week, no, they don't.

31:54

So they're my down. Well, mine is the Edmonton Oilers, the Colorado Rockies,

31:59

and actually the New York Jets.

32:02

Well, Aaron Rodgers decides he's not going to be at mandatory. He didn't decide.

32:08

He did this last year. He told them last year that he's not going to be there this year for this.

32:12

I don't get this guy. I mean, new receivers, new team. He's talking about Super Bowl aspirations.

32:19

He hadn't been there for any of the voluntary stuff. He was there for all the

32:21

voluntary stuff. Then I would agree with you. He said that he told Sala last

32:25

year. Do you believe him? What's he going to do? He said, I told him last year that I'm not going to be

32:31

there after that for a little while.

32:33

Listen, if you're a Jet fan, the only people that care about this are non-Jet fans.

32:37

If you're a Jet fan, I don't care if I'm a Jet fan. I say, please be under center and healthy for 16.

32:43

Oh, no. What are we up to? 17 games. I don't really care what he does.

32:47

Play and be healthy. All right. I don't know if he's going to be. I don't know either.

32:52

We'll see. I'd want him to get some rapport with these young receivers he's

32:55

playing with. That's just me. I mean, these are new receivers.

32:58

They've got a whole new receiving core there this year. So I'm kind of like.

33:02

Throw it and catch it. He's going to tell them. Because I'm going to throw it to you. Catch the ball.

33:05

That is a great strategy when you're 40 years old. To me, if he's not there

33:09

for actual training camp, that's one thing.

33:12

He'll be there. These are like a couple days that are in shorts and t-shirts.

33:15

Yeah. He'll be fine. To me, a lot of it's overrated.

33:18

My three down, I'm going to give it to, of course, the Oilers,

33:21

the Braves, four-game losing streak.

33:23

They're now 10 games back of the Phillies. I love it. And the White Sox, yeah.

33:28

You know, they start off with one of the worst records ever.

33:32

They got a little better. They did. And now they're chasing those 62 Mets for

33:36

one of the worst losing percentages of the modern era. Mets lost, what, 120?

33:40

Yeah, they had a 250 winning percentage. You guys just love bringing up something

33:44

bad when it comes to the Mets. How do you lose 120 games?

33:48

Well, the White Sox, I think, are trying to find out. They're trying to find out. So, look.

33:53

I don't know how many people go to the games in Chicago for the White Sox anyway,

33:56

because they are the little brother to the Cubbies, just like the Mets are to the Yankees.

34:02

But the Mets have actually been a— The White Sox have won a championship with

34:06

Ozzie Guillen as their coach. Which is amazing. But they are horrible.

34:11

Yeah. I mean, they are beyond horrible at this point.

34:15

You know what the White Sox are? They're like the Marlins. They're

34:18

like one of those teams that wins a championship and you go— it's

34:22

like nobody cares and then the team's well yeah they're again when

34:25

you're the little brother hard to break through well

34:28

i mean it's and i i looked when i was doing my three up three down it's like

34:32

they also have like a run differential like negative 140 jeez like they they

34:39

lose on average by two and a half runs i mean you do wonder though such a long season for these guys,

34:48

do they get to a point i mean as players even where they just go look obvious

34:52

i mean it's so come on everybody's a competitor we get that but you can't win

34:57

the division you can't make the playoffs that's all over we knew that early

35:00

what you know what motivates them nightly daily.

35:05

Is it personal statistics is it you know i i need to play better maybe i'll

35:10

get picked up by a different team or do you get to a point where you just go

35:14

look let's have some fun regardless if If we lose 9-2 tonight,

35:19

let's be good teammates. Let's have some laughs and do the things we want to do and just try and play

35:25

good ball, and then wherever it happens, happens. But don't take it so darn seriously because I think they passed the point that

35:30

you can't even go to the ballpark and go, we can win. We can. Yeah. I mean, it's –.

35:36

Because the thing is, it's bad enough if you have their record and you're in a bad division.

35:42

Yeah. Because then, yeah, you know, it's bad. But, you know,

35:45

you're not, you're only 10, 15 games behind. They're 26 and a half out.

35:49

Yeah. And it's, you know, because that's what we do. Cleveland's playing well right now. Yeah.

35:54

And I think they're, what, like the fourth best team in baseball right now.

35:58

Yeah. I mean, how do you stay motivated? I don't know. I don't know.

36:03

How do the announcers stay motivated? How do the guys, how does the play-by-play and the color guy go to work at 9

36:09

and go, you've got to be kidding me, man.

36:12

You've just got to, I can't believe this is the team I work for.

36:15

That's got to be horrible. The only time I can remember a worse scenario to

36:21

commentate would be that, you remember that football game where the Colts played

36:25

the Broncos? Yeah, but that's a game. These guys got to do this 162 times.

36:31

They still have 100 games to go. Oh, my God.

36:35

I don't know. It's good luck. Phil, where are we heading?

36:38

Anywhere, right? Anywhere you want to go. How about this? Oh,

36:40

before we do it, we didn't touch on the MLB, but the Yankees and the Phillies,

36:45

they look fantastic right now. They do look fantastic. And the White Sox, we mentioned, 17 and 51.

36:50

And they're going to chase the Mets. And my only hope is that they do not take

36:55

the record from the Mets. Come on, man. Listen, you already have Bobby Bonita. I know, but I need to know that the worst

37:02

season in the history of the game was the New York Metropolitan,

37:05

so I don't want that to change. Fill in the blank. We did the Steelers and Tomlin. We all agreed that was great for both. Okay.

37:12

Danny Hurley, he of Connecticut, turned down a $70 million six-year deal to coach the L.A. Lakers.

37:22

Danny Hurley turning down the Lakers is blank.

37:26

Good for Connecticut. I mean, you're getting a great coach.

37:32

I think this speaks more about not wanting to coach a team with LeBron James.

37:37

I mean, I think that a lot of coaches just do not want to coach him because

37:44

they know if this doesn't work out, they're gone.

37:48

And there's no guarantee that he's going to be there next season.

37:52

He'll be there this year. He'll be there this year. I think that's it.

37:55

Yeah. But think about it. This guy is how many coaches has he run through?

38:00

A lot. Just spent, I mean, Vogel, who won a championship, is gone. He has.

38:05

Danny Hurley turning down a six-year $70 million would have made him,

38:09

I think, the fourth highest NBA paid coach, which is actually surprising to

38:14

me when I thought about the numbers. I thought those numbers would be higher than that.

38:16

Yeah. Because I think of the player numbers, and then you wonder why they don't

38:20

listen to the coach, right? I mean, here's the coach making, this is the fourth highest,

38:24

so you figure the average coach is probably making about 5, 6 mil.

38:27

The average player on the bench is making 12 mil. So it's hard to get the respect

38:32

of these players when you're the least paid person out there.

38:35

Danny Hurley turning down the Lakers offer is blank.

38:40

Very telling of the state of the Lakers. That is where I'm going to go.

38:45

Yeah, I mean, and I don't think it's just about LeBron.

38:49

I think it's just about the state of that team right now. When you look at,

38:53

okay, take LeBron out of the equation.

38:57

Okay, you've got Anthony Davis. And then a cast of characters. Yeah. I agree. I think Phil's on it.

39:04

To me, Danny Hurley turning down the money and the position is a slap of reality for the Lakers.

39:12

I think the Lakers are that kind of franchise that feels, we're the Lakers.

39:17

If we want you, you'll come here. Yeah. You know, the Yankees have that aura.

39:23

The Cowboys kind of have that aura. There are certain teams that you go,

39:27

man, if I could play for them, you know, I'd play for them.

39:32

They're the Lakers. This is a reality call. Wait a minute.

39:38

The best college coach? He don't want to come to L.A.

39:42

He don't want to coach in L.A. He wants no part of LeBron, the Lakers,

39:47

Anthony Davis, Hollywood, the whole thing.

39:50

No, stay in Connecticut. Yeah. Well, and then the thing is at UConn,

39:54

he's got a chance this year to make history.

39:57

That's right. That's right. You know, I mean, to me, if you're,

40:00

and a lot of it depends on what your mindset is as the coach.

40:04

Yeah. If you're money motivated, you're going to take that deal in LA because it's LA. Yeah.

40:11

If you're more concerned about your legacy, I can definitely see plenty of reason

40:18

to stay at that UConn job and go after that chance. Yeah, three-peat.

40:23

Yeah, I mean, here's another thing you've got to throw in here.

40:26

Frank Vogel was there, what, three years? Yes. And he had one bad season. And they launched him. And they launched him.

40:32

Darvin Hamm has had two good seasons with this roster, including a trip to the

40:37

Western Conference Finals, and he's launched. And he's launched.

40:40

I mean, what job security do you have with that franchise?

40:43

Well, you don't, but then I do wonder, you know, take the Lakers out of it,

40:48

and we'll never know, No, but would Danny Hurley have turned down,

40:52

say, I don't know, you know, the Memphis Grizzlies?

40:56

They offer him, you know, $75 million. Is it just, and it's possible, is it just an NBA thing? Because there are a

41:02

lot of college coaches that say, I don't want to deal with it.

41:05

I don't want to deal with the egos. I don't want to deal with, like Elijah said, my job is hinging on if they like

41:11

me or if they decide, hey, it's not our fault, it's his fault.

41:16

Right now, Hurley's resume is as clean and good as it can be.

41:20

Does he want to throw on there two years with the Lakers and then launch?

41:24

I mean, come on. Maybe it's an NBA thing, too, but it definitely is a reality check for the Lakers.

41:31

Oh, it's an absolute reality check for the Lakers.

41:33

Someone turned down LeBron. I mean, look at it that way, too. They did.

41:37

They said, no, don't want to go there. Yeah. So we'll see what happens.

41:41

I forget who the frontrunner is now. It's LeBron's friend. It's J.J. Reddick. That's right. Right.

41:45

If that happens, that's a joke. And I mean, you realize, you know, J.J. Redick has absolutely no coaching experience.

41:51

And he supposedly hosts a show with a podcast.

41:54

I mean, can you imagine how bad that looks? I mean, how is it that you get to

41:58

hire your boss when he's your colleague and you go, hey, yeah,

42:02

Phil, I'm going to make you my boss next week. Who has no resume whatsoever to speak of in the NBA. This one,

42:11

I know it's a little odd, but I found this really, maybe I was a little surprised by it.

42:15

But then I did look into it and I realized he was in the league a little longer

42:18

than I thought, but still a little surprising. Darren Waller retiring is blank. So the tight end for the now New York Giants. Anything on that?

42:27

There's some off the field issues. I see that. I think that's more what it is

42:31

telling to me about him because he wasn't a bad player.

42:36

Just two years ago, we were saying, holy cow, this guy on the Raiders. He was phenomenal.

42:42

He was like a hybrid tight end.

42:45

But he was in the league a long time, though. Nine years, now that I look at

42:49

it. But still, I'm a bit surprised here. I'm going to use the word surprised.

42:52

I really thought he's got some tread left on the tires. He's going to play for

42:57

the Giants for a little bit. I think it's telling about how bad Danny Dimes is. Well, he would go play.

43:03

I mean, come on. You'd still play. You're making the money, Phil.

43:05

Darren Waller retiring is blank. Kind of surprising. surprising but partly because i i'd almost kind of forgotten

43:12

about it yeah yeah i know you know it's like he had that great run there he

43:16

did with the writers for a while yep and then it's like all of a sudden it's like last year,

43:22

I don't even remember where he played last year. He was outrageously bad for

43:27

the Giants last year. He was. Now, granted, listen. Who was their quarterback?

43:31

He was his quarterback, but he wasn't even that good as last year with Carr. I mean, he was very.

43:37

But you could see what he was able to do when he had the right quarterback.

43:42

I'm just a little surprised. I thought he had a couple more years than him.

43:44

I've seen this with tight ends, though, because every now and then you get a

43:47

tight end who has two good seasons, and then they just fall completely off the radar.

43:53

But here's another reason why it surprised me a little bit, the position.

43:56

There are, what, four great ones right now in this league?

44:00

If you want to say it's Kelsey, the kid in Detroit, the rookie. Oh, Luca. Point.

44:06

Laporta. Laporta, your boy in San Fran. You got to still say he's up there. He's up there.

44:12

The guy in Minnesota is really good. In Minnesota. Yes, yes. Hawkinson. Okay.

44:17

You know, that's why I was a little surprised. Like, if you're a decent tight

44:20

end, you can stick around a while.

44:22

Because there's only a couple of really great ones.

44:27

And then if you're pretty okay, you could... This position, really the tight

44:31

end position has kind of become this...

44:36

Interchangeable spot what is it yeah what is that anymore because it's

44:38

like you look at most teams they have what

44:41

three four tight ends yeah but how many of them can you name just right off

44:46

that's what i said you got three or four that you say these are the three or

44:49

four that's it the one in chicago i think could be a lead yeah cold combat yes

44:53

someone he's been very good yeah well and he was he was doing it with jess and

44:58

i left out the kid who's been very good in buffalo

45:01

kincaid the rookie and their other

45:04

one knox yeah he's been very good i mean you had

45:07

a couple that came on pretty strong last year but again waller's

45:11

pretty good time i was just very surprised at that position to just say i'm

45:15

done yeah but i've always questioned his motivation why he was playing because

45:19

there were he would just go through laps i guess where he would just be really

45:23

good and then just yeah unwatch i get it elijah i'll go with you the women's olympic team was named,

45:30

the women's Olympic team not selecting Kaitlyn Clark is blank.

45:34

Kind of mind-boggling. So 12-go, 12-go. I don't know if there's alternates,

45:38

but I know 12-go. I'll say this. It's mind-boggling to me from the perspective that you're trying to grow the sport.

45:45

That's a valid argument. Because my thing is, okay, if you want to say she's

45:50

not one of the best 12 players in the WNBA right now, you're right.

45:53

She is not. I agree. I agree. But if you're trying to get people to watch your sport, would you not want to

46:01

just have her there and just throw her in a little bit?

46:04

Because your team's obviously good enough to probably win. Oh, they're going to win.

46:09

I've lost three games in the last, what, four Olympics?

46:13

I don't understand why you wouldn't just have her as a bench player who came

46:17

off the bench to shoot a few threes just to get people to watch your sport.

46:21

To fill the women's Olympic team leaving Kaitlyn Clark off is blank.

46:24

Perfectly fine. Perfectly fine. It's, they're going there to win the gold medal. Yeah.

46:32

They don't need her to do that. No, they don't.

46:35

If you're someone who watches the Olympics, you're going to watch. Yeah.

46:40

I agree with that. You know, I mean, really with the Olympics anymore,

46:43

I'd almost watch the women's game more than the men's game anyways.

46:47

Now, the Olympic basketball is a lot more entertaining than the NBA. In general. Yes.

46:53

To me, yes, you're wanting to grow the sport, but there's plenty of ways to

46:58

do that with her and some of these other rookies this year without making it

47:05

about only about her. You know.

47:08

Understood. She's drawing a lot of eyeballs to that sport. Oh,

47:11

gosh. She's going to draw a lot of eyeballs to that sport.

47:14

I don't think the Olympic team needs her to do that. They don't need her to

47:17

win, but I'm going to say it's a missed opportunity. Here's why. There's a precedent.

47:22

Christian Laettner was put on the Olympic team as the college player that year.

47:29

He didn't deserve to be on that team. But the Olympic Committee and everyone else knew at that moment,

47:35

Laettner was a very polarizing player. He was either hated or loved.

47:40

And they knew eyeballs were going to watch Christian Laettner on that team.

47:44

I feel like they, she doesn't deserve to be on the 12 best players.

47:49

But I think it's a missed opportunity to not find a way to, I'm telling you

47:57

now, there are people that would know. Phil said he's right.

48:01

Those that will watch the Olympics will watch the Olympics. But the missed opportunity

48:04

here is to me, those that would never watch the Olympics, if there's a promo

48:09

while they're watching days of our lives in the day and they go,

48:12

Oh, Caitlin Clark tonight. And the Olympic team take on, you know, Czechoslovakia.

48:17

A lot of people are going to watch. watch they want to see it now

48:20

she may come in for five minutes they'll still

48:23

turn but they'll turn they'll tune in yeah the other side of it

48:26

for me though is she needs rest oh that

48:29

i agree with i've never seen an athlete have to go from collegiate to the pro

48:34

and then again i'm here i am pressing for her to be on this and then go back

48:38

to it again oh i agree with you and i and believe me i think when she puts her

48:42

head on the pillow and i should probably go i need this break yeah but i would

48:46

say It's a missed opportunity in the way of,

48:49

you know, shoehorn a way to get her there.

48:52

She is right now the face of, I don't must say other than anything else.

48:57

She's almost the face of sports at the moment. I don't think it's a male athlete right now. That's as popular at the moment.

49:04

But, again, I get it. You can't change rules, and I understand that completely.

49:08

But, you know, sometimes I just feel like you've got to find a way.

49:12

Don't take any of the 12 off. But, you know, we're going to win the gold medal

49:16

either way. All right, last one. Phil, speaking of the Olympics, my favorite summer Olympics sport to watch, obviously, is blank.

49:28

This is going to be kind of an odd one. Water polo. That is a fun one.

49:32

I mean, to me, it's just so freaking insane.

49:36

How do they do it? You're swimming for 15, 20 minutes in a stretch. Treading water. Yeah.

49:42

And you're trying to not get knocked down under the water by other people.

49:46

And throw a ball into the goal. Yeah. It is an amazing sport.

49:51

To me, it is an insane sport to watch. It is fun to watch. Very entertaining.

49:53

I've seen it come on, and I've tuned in. Elijah, what's your favorite summer Olympic sport? I'll be honest with you.

49:59

I don't really watch the Olympics all that much. I might say volleyball.

50:03

That's a good one. I mean, to see some of these people just flying around on

50:09

the sand to bat a ball up in the air.

50:12

They're amazing. Yeah. I mean, I just know when I just attempted this on the

50:17

beach, I was horrifyingly bad at this. I mean, to run in sand itself is tough.

50:24

And then think about it. When you fall and you're scraping your arms up on the sand, it's rough, man.

50:30

Yeah. I mean, I, I used to love the summer Olympics.

50:34

I like the winter more now, but I used to love the track and field aspect.

50:39

I always find it amazing to watch like the a hundred meter dash and the fastest human and all that.

50:44

I don't, I would have to just put it towards for me.

50:48

You know, I can't, I can't make it the basketball now because they're pros now

50:52

playing, you know, but now when it was the collegiate players, I used to love that.

50:55

But now that it's pros, I always feel like it's a foregone conclusion that at

50:58

minimum, the U.S. is going to be in the gold medal game.

51:02

Well, except we had that run there with the men.

51:06

Yeah. Yeah. They were struggling. Yeah. I'll go still with the,

51:09

I'll just put it under the guise of track and field. I do enjoy seeing, I'm sometimes amazed by the speed that some of these athletes

51:17

are able to get around that track.

51:20

You know, the mile thing, when I see those numbers, when they run a mile and,

51:24

you know, They broke the four-minute mile so long ago.

51:27

And, oh, my God, do you realize how fast that is? Yeah. Do you realize how fast that is?

51:33

It's like they're sprinting from the get-go.

51:36

It is an absolute amazing thing. I don't know how they do it.

51:38

I really don't know how they do it. It is nuts. All right, there you go. That is tonight's fill-in-the-blank.

51:44

Play a little pick-and-choose. Phil, pick-and-choose.

51:47

You get to pick one, Phil. The Mavericks' chances to win it.

51:52

The Oilers' chances to win it.

51:55

So if I told you you had to pick one, you have to put your money where your

51:58

mouth is, Phil. Which one are you putting your money on?

52:02

Man, that's tough. I guess I would say the Mavs, just because if this injury

52:08

Porzingis has ends up being a little more of a, you know, a little more than

52:12

one game missed. Good point.

52:14

Maybe that opens the door for the Mavs, but I don't know. Right now,

52:18

I don't like either of them, but I guess I'd go with the Mavs. You'd go with the Mavs. Elijah, you got to take one.

52:22

What do you got? I'm going with the Mavs, too, because it's not that I think

52:28

they have more of a chance. I just don't see the Oilers coming back and winning this series.

52:33

And that's where I'm looking at it. And there you go. What I wanted to happen happened.

52:37

The Oilers will now win the series.

52:41

All I needed was to get Elijah on microphone to say he does not believe they'll

52:46

win the series. Remember something. What? Remember something. Yes. I picked the Oilers to win this series.

52:51

And now you've reversed it. Thank you. Now, I have reversed it in their favor.

52:55

Okay. I'm going to actually pick the Oilers here. And the only reason I'm going

52:57

to do that is the point I made earlier. I always feel the NHL, the home ice is a thing, but it's not a big thing.

53:05

And I think if the Oilers can right the ship, so to speak, win this game,

53:11

win their two at home. You obviously have a three-game series.

53:16

Unlike basketball, puck luck plays a lot into these games in the NHL.

53:20

Anything can happen. and I just feel like they can do it.

53:23

I don't see the Mavs winning in Boston. That's the only problem I'm going to have with this.

53:27

They've been bad in Boston, though. But it doesn't appear that way right now.

53:31

Here's my take. You've got to understand, they were 4-0 sweep,

53:35

and now they've won two more at home. I feel like they've fixed what they had to fix themselves.

53:39

Here's the thing that I push back on that a little bit with.

53:43

But basketball is definitely the series is the game of momentum a lot more than hockey is.

53:49

Like, think about it, because sure, a goalie can have a bad night.

53:52

He's going to come back strong the next night, and he is the ultimate game changer.

53:58

If he's hot, there's no chance. I'm looking at basketball, and I go, if Luka Doncic and Kyrie Irving just come

54:05

out guns blazing and change the

54:07

momentum of this series. What if Tatum and Brown come out guns blazing?

54:10

I mean, you're right. Well, that's what I'm saying. But we have seen Dallas

54:13

in this spot where they've been down and come out straight. Don't get me wrong.

54:17

If you ask me who I want, I want the Mavericks to pull this out.

54:20

If I had to pick one of these, I would root that the Mavericks go and find a

54:23

way to beat the Celtics. I think that would be an incredible thing.

54:26

What a year they've had. I think Edmonton gets back here again.

54:30

27-year-old McDavid, he'll be back here. I don't know about the Mavs.

54:34

This is a heck of a season they put together.

54:36

I'd like to see them do it. But they've been dangling around this for a while

54:39

now. This is the finals. It's tough. Pick and choose, Elijah.

54:43

You get one for their career.

54:47

Travis Kelsey, Rob Gronkowski. Travis Kelsey. Not even close. Not even close.

54:53

It's funny. You asked this years ago. I did? Yeah, you did. Now we have years

54:56

between. And I picked Travis Kelsey two, three years ago.

55:00

And my logic behind it was, for career numbers, he's already a better player than Gronkowski.

55:06

The only thing he didn't have was Super Bowl wins. Well, now he's got them. He does.

55:11

And he might get as many as Gronkowski this year.

55:14

Okay. So I'm definitely going with Travis Kelsey on this one.

55:20

I think I'm going to go with Lajier and go with Kelsey.

55:23

I just think it's not just the big plays, which, you know, that was Gronkowski.

55:29

You wanted that touchdown. You throw it to him in the end zone. He's going to get it.

55:33

It's the other 80 yards at the field, I think, is where the difference is.

55:37

Where Kelsey, I mean, you look at the Chiefs-Bills game a couple years ago where

55:44

they made that last second comeback. Kelsey, right there. Every play. You needed him to get five yards,

55:51

he got five yards. You needed him to get 15 yards, he got 15 yards. Yeah.

55:54

And I think it's that little more consistency all throughout the game.

55:57

I'll say there's no bad answer here, obviously. I take either.

56:00

I'm going to lean at Gronk here. And the only reason I'm going to do it is I'm going to use the old Brady-Montana,

56:05

in my mind. This is personal.

56:07

I always felt Montana was the greatest quarterback of all time. I watched Montana.

56:12

If you didn't, and you probably didn't get to watch him live. I did.

56:15

I can't even begin to tell you. I'm not a 49er fan. I was an Oilers fan. Yeah, you are.

56:21

Well, you've admitted you would pick them. Joe Montana was as clutch a human

56:26

being in a sport as Michael Jordan was, you know, with the Bulls. He was amazing to watch.

56:32

And then the Atlanta Super Bowl happened with the Falcons and the Pats.

56:38

And it was that day that I said, okay, the baton is passed.

56:43

It's Brady. Brady, he's the greatest quarterback of all time.

56:45

And now he's added to that. Well, I don't know. I feel the same way with Kelsey and Gronk.

56:49

I feel like Gronk was the only thing Brady had.

56:52

He was the only thing he had for so long.

56:54

Whereas I feel like Mahomes has a lot of weapons.

56:57

And Kelsey's one of them. Yeah. And been one of them. But I feel like Gronk

57:01

was told every night, you've got to carry it. You're it, man. And he did.

57:07

And like Phil said, there were some playoff games where, dude,

57:10

Dude, this guy literally did nothing for six games in a row, Gronk.

57:15

And in the playoff game, he's got two touchdowns, 140 yards,

57:19

and he's running people over. Now, if Kelsey this year has his year again, and they're in the playoffs,

57:26

I'm going to switch it over to Kelsey. But right now, I'm going to give Gronk the baton for one more season.

57:33

That's me. I understand. I got you. Phil, pick a choose. You only get one of

57:37

the other two. Leave your life, Phil.

57:39

Okay. Hot dogs, burgers, tacos. Ooh. Yeah.

57:45

You can keep one in your life. Hot dogs.

57:48

You're keeping hot dogs. Because I can't imagine going to a baseball game.

57:51

Without a hot dog. And not getting a hot dog. Go get a burger at the game.

57:54

Go get nachos at the game. Yeah, it's just not the same. Okay,

57:57

so hot dog stays. Phil removes burgers and tacos.

58:01

Elijah, one stays, two leave. Burgers stay. They stay. Yeah. It's tough between hot dogs and burgers, but I'm not.

58:11

Tacos, I... You can take or leave? I can take or leave. Okay.

58:14

I'm going to go with Elijah. I'm going to go burgers. I love hot dogs. But, man, a burger, I always feel like you could do so – there's

58:20

so many different burgers. Absolutely. And a cheeseburger. Oh, my gosh. Well, think about it.

58:25

And you can stack them as many as you want. Yeah. You can't do that with a hot dog. You got to get beyond that roller dog

58:30

at 7-Eleven. That's true. You got to go to Chicago. Get yourself a Chicago dog.

58:34

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Now, I'm used to – You got to talk about the dirty

58:38

water dogs. That's what I'm used to. I'm used to going on the corner of 52nd and 7th. A dirty water dog.

58:44

And the guy handing me a dirty water dog, and I'm going, this is great.

58:47

This is absolutely disgusting. But it does taste good. All right. Elijah.

58:53

Oh, Elijah. Pick or choose. For the next three seasons, you get one of these guys. Three seasons.

59:01

I'm going to get three or two. I'm going to go with three. Dak Prescott as your

59:05

quarterback. Caleb Williams as your quarterback.

59:08

Those are my two choices? What are your choices? I'm going with Dak Prescott here. I knew I could get you to pick Dak.

59:14

Listen, I don't want Caleb Williams. So my scenario is here.

59:18

If I said to you, Jerry Jones, hey, I just made an incredible deal for Caleb Williams.

59:23

He's going to come right over for the next three years.

59:26

And you're saying, nope, staying with Dak. I'm staying with Dak.

59:28

Okay, there you go. I want nothing. And this is me being completely biased. I don't like Caleb Williams.

59:35

Okay. And I don't want him anywhere near my organization. But we don't know how he's going to play on the field.

59:38

All right. All right, Phil, three years, you got him. Dak, Caleb?

59:41

I'd go with Dak. Going with Dak. Just now, ask me a year from now,

59:47

I might have a different answer. But if he's a phenom, Caleb Bright.

59:50

You know, but right now, I would rather the commodity I know.

59:55

Sure. And Dak's going to get you to the playoffs.

59:58

He's going to win nine, ten games. And he's going to then lose right away in the playoffs.

1:00:01

Well, you know what, that might be a Cowboys thing. If he's on the Bears, it might be different.

1:00:05

Yeah, I'll take him on the Bears. If he gets embarrassed in the playoffs, I'll take it.

1:00:08

I agree with both of you. And as a Titan fan, if you told me,

1:00:11

you know, Will Levis isn't available and tomorrow I can have either of these guys, I'm taking Dak.

1:00:15

I always feel he's underrated. I felt he's been underrated his whole career.

1:00:18

Now, granted, he's going to make billions of dollars. I know that doesn't mean

1:00:21

he's underrated, but I don't feel he's ever looked at as the other guys.

1:00:26

He wasn't. I mean, listen. And I think it's because of the shortcomings in the playoffs. I get it.

1:00:31

But I don't know what Caleb Williams is yet, and I have no idea.

1:00:34

But I do know what Dak is, And he's a really solid player and a solid quarterback. So I'll take Dak.

1:00:40

Well, I mean, their playoff game this year, even if Dak would have played great,

1:00:44

it wouldn't have mattered. That defense stunk. I try to tell people that. It gave up so much.

1:00:50

Exactly, yeah. I completely agree with you guys. Elijah, pick and choose. You get one.

1:00:54

Let's make it for three seasons. How's that? Okay. Okay, we're going to do it again.

1:01:00

A.J. Brown as your receiver, your number one.

1:01:03

C.D. Lamb as your number one. Justin Jefferson as your number one.

1:01:07

Ooh. Yeah. Ooh. Oh, my bias is going to come out. I'm going to go CeeDee Lamb.

1:01:12

CeeDee Lamb. I think he's hitting a stride. He's gotten better every single

1:01:17

year he's been on the field. And I think he's just going to keep making strides. Okay. I don't know if Justin

1:01:24

Jefferson has topped out. Here's the thing. CeeDee Lamb has never been injured. True. Justin Jefferson has been injured.

1:01:30

So I don't know if he's going to come back at the same level he was. Okay.

1:01:36

Phil, A.J. Brown, C.D. Lamb, Justin Jefferson, you get them for three seasons on your team.

1:01:42

For me, it's a tough one between Lamb and Jefferson, but I think I would give

1:01:46

a slight edge to Jefferson. I think just his body of work so far tells me a little bit more than what Lamb's does.

1:01:54

A.J. Brown, yeah, he might put up some numbers, but then all of a sudden,

1:01:57

if he's not getting the ball, he may turn into Terrell Owens.

1:02:00

Yeah, good point on both of those. Here's the funny thing. The answer to me

1:02:05

is going to be Justin Jefferson. Okay. Because of the resume. That's fine.

1:02:10

CeeDee Lamb is outrageously good. I think he's a razor's hair behind him. That's it. Yeah.

1:02:17

Here's the funny thing to me in my mind. It should be A.J. Brown.

1:02:21

Yeah. Now, why isn't it? When you look at raw talent, it should be A.J.

1:02:27

Brown. Like Phil just said, he has put together games. Last year he did it, I think, five in a row with 125-yard receiving games.

1:02:32

But he has that other quality, that diva-slash-crybaby quality that makes you

1:02:39

go, I'll take one of the other two.

1:02:42

Because for whatever reason, A.J. Brown becomes a little bit of an ingrate to

1:02:47

the team he's on. The other two have never shown that.

1:02:50

No. So I'm going to go with Jefferson. Now, who knows?

1:02:53

Maybe this year things go A.J. Brown's way and he's happy and he puts up these huge numbers.

1:02:59

A.J. Brown wasn't happy on their Super Bowl run.

1:03:03

He was making comments about not getting the ball. I don't know how much more

1:03:05

happy you can be. But if I were to put these three guys, and that was my point,

1:03:08

in front of you and you go, here's their highlight reel. You go, I want A.J. Brown.

1:03:13

Because you go, oh, my God, he can run the deep end. He can run people over.

1:03:18

He can make – this guy, he looks like a linebacker. Yeah.

1:03:23

But then when you watch them, you go, no, I'll take Jefferson or Lamb.

1:03:27

Lamb looks like he weighs 86 pounds. But he's fantastic.

1:03:32

Jefferson, the same thing. A.J. Brown, I feel like he's almost wasting his prime with his act.

1:03:38

Yeah, I agree with that. No, I agree with that. Okay, Phil, pick and choose. You get one.

1:03:42

For a week, Phil, a week, 100 degrees and humid all week, all seven days,

1:03:49

which we may get, or 20 degrees and snowing for seven straight days, which would you pick?

1:03:56

I'll take the cold and snow. You're going to take the cold and snow?

1:03:59

I can deal with cold a lot better than I can deal with the extremely hot.

1:04:05

Elijah, 100 degrees and humid for a week. or 20 degrees and snowing for a week.

1:04:13

Oh, boy. You know something? I'll probably have to go to work.

1:04:20

So I am definitely going to say 100 degrees and humid is what I would take.

1:04:24

Because you can go inside. You can go inside. All right. If it snows, do you realize, first of all, you've got to go clean.

1:04:32

You've got to go shovel out the driveway. That's true. Which is going to wreck your back.

1:04:36

Yeah. I mean, then you've got to drive. What if I said you don't have to go anywhere?

1:04:40

What if I threw that in there? You're on vacation.

1:04:43

And on your vacation week, you either get the 20 degrees in snow or you get the 100 degrees in heat.

1:04:49

Oh, I would take the 20 degrees in snow then. If I'm on vacation and I have

1:04:52

no tides to do anything, I would definitely take the 20 degrees in snow because

1:04:57

I like the cold. That's obviously the coming from up north.

1:05:00

And if I don't have to snow shovel out the driveway, I'm good with that.

1:05:05

I mean, if I don't have to drive anywhere, I'm good with that.

1:05:08

I mean, I'll stay in, you know. Yeah, I agree with you guys. it's it's i'm i

1:05:13

don't like the cold because i was from the north and i hate you know i'm glad

1:05:17

i'm not dealing with that much longer but you know it gets darker earlier in

1:05:22

the winter and you kind of feel a little more cozy and you could deal with it

1:05:25

you're like i'll put on a movie and relax but well and here's the thing the

1:05:28

summer my god with the cold i can always put on an extra layer absolutely.

1:05:32

With the hot i'm sorry there ain't nothing else i can take off yeah and when

1:05:36

it's 100 degrees and humid. And these days they're so long, you know, it's, it's that way from like 10 AM to 10 PM.

1:05:44

It feels, you know, whereas with the cold, you go away, the heat's on,

1:05:47

you know, I'm fine. It's good. I'll go with that with you guys. All right. Which is worse than why we'll end

1:05:52

it on these Phil, which is worse than why now we weren't, you weren't here to

1:05:55

talk about these two, but the nuggets exit from the NBA playoffs to Minnesota four to won,

1:06:02

who then went on Minnesota to get demolished by the Mavs.

1:06:07

Or the Colorado Avalanche exit from the NHL playoffs to the Dallas Stars,

1:06:13

who then went on to get beat up by Edmonton.

1:06:18

So which exit was worse, the Nuggets exit or the Avs exit?

1:06:22

Uh, I think I would probably have to go with the Nuggets exit just because the

1:06:28

way they lost the final two games. Mm.

1:06:33

I think that's, you know, you go from a game that basically it looked like they

1:06:38

had no effort in that blowout loss to the Timberwolves to even the series.

1:06:43

Oh, my God. It was like a 40-point game. And then to have that game where you're

1:06:47

leading by so much and then blow it. Blow it, yeah. To me, that makes it worse.

1:06:51

Okay. Okay, Elijah, which one was worse, the exit?

1:06:54

I'm going to go with the Avalanche here, because at least with Denver,

1:06:58

it went to seven games, and there was a feeling of they were in control.

1:07:03

And you just saw limitations with that team.

1:07:06

Listen, there's only one all-star on that team, and it's Jokic.

1:07:10

You saw there were limitations in the playoffs, that if he didn't have an elite

1:07:14

game, this team didn't win. I'm looking at the Avalanche that has three elite players, And to lose to Dallas,

1:07:24

who has proven to me they've got a choke artist at goalie because he has just

1:07:29

played bad in big games and back-to-back seasons,

1:07:32

that's a bad loss to me. Yeah, I'll agree with you here.

1:07:36

I'll go with the Avs. I think it's close, but I think the Avs,

1:07:38

because the exit equates to...

1:07:42

A lot of talent that should go forward further than they did. Now, you're right.

1:07:50

Listen, if I had to bet on one of these going in, I would have bet my house

1:07:54

on the Nuggets. I didn't think the Nuggets were going to be stopped until the finals.

1:07:58

Whereas I thought the Western Conference this year was a little competitive.

1:08:03

It was easy for them to run into a hot team.

1:08:06

But I don't know. I think the Avs, like you said, between McCarran,

1:08:09

McKinnon, and Landeskog. Boy, these guys are championship players.

1:08:16

This, to me, was a missed opportunity. And what a series it would have been

1:08:19

had it been Avs Edmonton, right? Absolutely. I mean, it would have been amazing.

1:08:23

So I'll go with the Avs. All right, Phil, which is worse than why?

1:08:26

Last one, we'll get out of here on this. Non-sports, Phil. Which is worse than why? You wake up tomorrow morning,

1:08:31

Phil, your head is twice the size.

1:08:34

So whatever your head size is today, your head face, your whole thing on your

1:08:38

neck there is double. Or your hands and feet are three times their size.

1:08:44

And you're going to have to live the rest of your life like this.

1:08:47

Phil, which is worse for you? Well, I already have enough problems buying shoes.

1:08:55

So we're saying, like, what shoe size are you? 13 wide. Okay, so you would be a 39 shoe.

1:09:03

And your hands would be three times your hand size.

1:09:07

Forget buying gloves. But your head would be the regular size.

1:09:09

So you're going to say it's worse for the hands and feet. Yeah,

1:09:13

I think the hands and feet. So there's a lot of logistical things like putting on your shirt, putting on your pants.

1:09:20

But you're still going to have a hard time with the shirt going over your double

1:09:22

head. Yes, okay. All right. Elijah, which is worse for you, waking up tomorrow with a head twice the size

1:09:29

that it is or your hands and feet three times their size?

1:09:35

This is a tough one. I'm going to go with the head being twice the size because...

1:09:42

You know, that's the first thing people see when they look at you is your head.

1:09:46

Could you imagine going so far? Trust me, if your hands are three times the

1:09:49

size, people are going to see it. Yeah, but I mean, I feel like if your hands are big, you could do more with

1:09:58

big hands. But your feet, too. Yeah, I didn't think about that. I'm still going to go with the head.

1:10:03

Could you imagine going someplace and your head is like the size of your torso?

1:10:07

I'm going to go with Phil here. I think the head thing, I don't know.

1:10:12

Maybe you can almost play it off like you're just, you have an abnormality and

1:10:16

your head is twice. And you could always joke around, I have a big brain and no, no, no, no.

1:10:21

But your hands and feet, I mean, you're going to look like a salamander walking.

1:10:26

I mean, your hands and your feet. I mean, I don't even know how you would function with that. How are you going

1:10:31

to hit buttons on it? I don't know how you would function. Like forget typing on a keyboard.

1:10:34

I mean, you know, forget it. I can't even imagine trying to type on my phone.

1:10:38

I have a hard time typing on my phone. Now, Elijah brings up a good point.

1:10:41

Maybe you can find a way to make that work for you. In sports or something,

1:10:44

you have a hand three times the size of an old man. Oh, yeah.

1:10:46

Think about how you could grip a basketball.

1:10:48

Right. It doesn't mean you're a good shooter, but you can grip it. Yeah.

1:10:51

You definitely wouldn't fumble a lot in football. No. Just hold the ball.

1:10:55

You know? I mean, but. Yeah, I mean, that one-handed catch.

1:10:58

The one-handed, yeah, the old devil thing would not be a big problem for you.

1:11:02

So there you go. That's it. Which is worse than mine. And we did it again. What do you got? I have one question for Phil.

1:11:07

Oh, that's right. You said you wanted to bring this up. One question. I asked Kenny this last week. Uh-oh.

1:11:12

Three players, three quarterbacks.

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One's retired. Two still currently playing.

1:11:19

You get their career, and that includes everything, on the field,

1:11:24

off the field. You're getting their career. You get Eli Manning's career. Yeah.

1:11:31

Matthew Stafford's career, or Aaron Rodgers' career? You get one of those three.

1:11:38

So you're the guy. Yeah, you're him. Okay, you got to put it in and say you're them.

1:11:42

Remember, I asked you this last week. Yeah, yeah. No, I know.

1:11:44

I know my answer, too. I would answer it again the same way again today. I think for me, Eli.

1:11:49

Yeah, that's my answer. Two Super Bowl wins. That's my answer.

1:11:51

And has had a great media career afterwards.

1:11:54

Yeah, I would take his. My point was to Elijah, is there an athlete more lovable than Eli Manning?

1:12:02

I mean, there's almost nothing about this guy. This guy.

1:12:05

Well, as a Cowboys fan, I hate it. I know that. But he's one of the goofier

1:12:09

dudes you'll see. This guy is amazing.

1:12:11

Yeah, he is. He's absolutely amazing. He has just put together two incredible runs.

1:12:16

That's all he's ever needed. And now my only pushback, I pick Stafford because

1:12:21

I feel like when it's all said and done, Stafford has done things that have

1:12:26

put him ahead of his peers. That's not even close.

1:12:28

Stafford's way better. Exactly. And he's won a Super Bowl.

1:12:31

But you're asking me who I want to be. I want to be Eli. I know.

1:12:33

And I picked Stafford, and that was what I wanted to be thought of as one of

1:12:38

the best of my peers at that time, whereas Eli Manning is not thought of that

1:12:42

way. No, but he's got two Super Bowl wins.

1:12:45

I'll take that jewelry. Do you know what's so funny about this? Yeah.

1:12:50

None of us picked the guy. But

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why would I pick Rodgers? The stats and the championships don't equate.

1:12:58

Yeah, but that's a personal number. Exactly. That doesn't equate to me.

1:13:02

And to me, what that just tells you is I feel like when it's all said and done,

1:13:07

as crazy as this is, if you just looked at their careers and took nothing off

1:13:12

the field about these guys, you'd say, oh, we definitely would pick Aaron Rodgers.

1:13:17

But I'm looking at the field. No, because I hate him on the field.

1:13:21

You don't have the numbers just aren't there and were equated to championships for Rodgers.

1:13:26

See, there's a difference in how you look at a player to me,

1:13:29

not to go on a big thing here. Dan Marino, statistically, and I watched Dan Marino.

1:13:35

Oh, my God, I got to tell you, this guy had it. I've never seen a guy come out into the league.

1:13:42

I couldn't believe what I was watching, okay? Super Bowl, year one,

1:13:46

never again, never went back. So the stats and all that stuff doesn't equate

1:13:51

sometimes to the overall persona.

1:13:53

To me, Eli, this guy, how in God's name he found a way. He must have made a deal with the devil.

1:13:59

He has found a way to take two great playoff runs.

1:14:03

He stayed with one team in the toughest media market there is.

1:14:10

He's going to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. He's got the helmet catch.

1:14:13

The Manningham catch. He stopped the Patriots. He stopped Brady's perfect season.

1:14:17

Yeah. I mean, the dude is just charmed. He really is because I joke about this with my buddies.

1:14:25

I say the Eli Manning QB strategy, close your eyes and throw the ball as far as you can.

1:14:31

And it worked. And like Phil said, he took the career. He was as goofy and quiet

1:14:37

a dude as you've ever seen. He somehow turned that into being super likable after his career.

1:14:42

That is very true. It's unbelievable. That'll give you. He's, I mean, I don't know if it's because of Peyton.

1:14:48

You know, maybe without Peyton, he's not this.

1:14:50

But because Peyton kind of led that way.

1:14:52

I don't know about that. Because think about it. Eli Manning has the moments. Think about something.

1:14:56

No, no. What I'm saying is the off the field. Oh, okay. Maybe without Peyton,

1:15:00

maybe Eli drifts off into anonymity, you know.

1:15:04

But with Peyton, he still, he had some stuff before they started doing the He

1:15:09

had some stuff on his own that he was doing.

1:15:11

And he did some stand-up comedy commercials where he pretty much made fun of himself.

1:15:15

Listen, I just think he is a—put it this way. Here's how I can equate it.

1:15:18

If you ask me, out of those three, who do I want to sit down and have dinner

1:15:21

with? Eli Manikis. Oh, absolutely. Because I know we're going to laugh. This guy has probably got some fantastic

1:15:28

stories. I completely agree with that.

1:15:31

All right. There you go. Well, that puts a wrap on it for us this week.

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This has been the Triple A Sports Pub. we'll see you next week.