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the Triforce Podcast. Hello welcome

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Podcast. The way

1:24

you said it was as if there

1:26

was some other content we put out

1:28

as Triforce. Podcast. The Triforce Podcast. Not

1:31

the Triforce, what else do we do? Podcast.

1:35

Padca- How are you enjoying your new mics

1:37

by the way? I'm loving it. For sure

1:39

mics that they sent us. Good, I didn't

1:41

expect to be given a free mic so

1:43

thank you very much Shure. Thank you Shure

1:45

for the new mic, yeah. Do I

1:47

sound different with mine? Do I sound a

1:50

bit more bassy? You actually do sound a

1:52

bit better, yeah. Good, good. Well

1:54

they're made for podcasting. They sent

1:56

us the SM-7DB and also a

1:58

MV7 Plus. is their

2:00

new podcast mic. Yes. That's

2:02

the one I haven't set that up yet because I

2:05

need a bass for it. It's like a, you know,

2:07

it's a little screw into that, but I'd like to

2:09

use that. I'll use, I'll try and use that for

2:11

next week. You want to set up a table and

2:13

do a proper podcast. Exactly. Yeah. I'm

2:16

using my boom arm. That's the SM7DB, which is

2:18

a good, I use that for streaming and stuff

2:20

like that, but I'm also using it for this.

2:22

So I'll get a bass for the podcast mic.

2:24

We'll see how she sounds. Very, very cool. Anyway,

2:27

we'll let that technically add hashtag add. Yeah. Thank

2:29

you so much. Yeah. Yeah. No,

2:33

thank you so much. Thank you, sure. We are big

2:35

fans. Glad to be sounding amazing. We sure are. Despite

2:38

a bit of hay fever and other things

2:40

blocking me up this week, I've been wheezing

2:42

away and like sniffling. Everyone's getting a

2:44

bit of the summer. We had like

2:46

two lovely days of summer this weekend

2:49

in the UK. Yeah. Everyone was,

2:52

it was like a different world out there. You

2:54

know, it felt like walking around on a European

2:56

holiday or something. Where were you? Well, I just,

2:59

I was just around Bristol. I

3:01

did a little cycle ride. I did a little

3:03

walk out and it was so nice everywhere. The

3:06

world was alive. You know, it was like

3:08

an early summer, a couple of days. There

3:10

were loads of flies coming in my flat,

3:12

you know, and stuff like this. All the

3:14

stuff that happened this summer and it just

3:16

like, so it's so wonderful. You know, that

3:18

summery smell, the

3:21

baked streets or whatever. Yeah, I

3:23

don't know. Like I just felt really good this weekend.

3:25

And then of course, there was

3:27

a big thunderstorm and it's back to regular

3:29

old 14 degrees less. It's

3:32

actually like 12 this morning. Yeah,

3:34

it's nice to have the

3:37

weather for me that this, that time of the year where

3:39

it switches to like, it's almost

3:41

like a switch has been thrown because there was

3:43

the end of April was the wettest April I

3:46

think we've ever had. And then

3:48

May started and there was this one day

3:50

where it was like summer, just all very

3:52

early spring and all the little insects come

3:54

out and all the flowers immediately go. It's

3:58

like it's just magic. It's real magic. Like

4:00

I was saying, I've been watching Clarkson's farm. Yeah,

4:02

me too. And

4:04

I kind of didn't want to admit to it

4:06

because, you know... That's a good show. Whatever you

4:08

say about Clarkson, he makes very good telly. And

4:11

seeing his trials and tribulations with

4:14

farming is... I

4:17

mean, I love the show, right? Generally. I

4:20

think it's really interesting to see behind the

4:22

scenes. I mean, you guys love farming sims,

4:24

you love farming sims. Yeah. It's

4:26

a little bit so interesting learning about, like,

4:28

seeing the different aspects of it that go

4:30

into it, you know. I think

4:32

he does it in a very good way. He's got a thousand

4:35

acres on this farm. And Caleb

4:37

casually refers to people as hobby farmers if

4:39

they have 30 acres. Yeah, yeah. Which is

4:41

a huge amount of land, right? Yeah. And

4:44

he sort of... I guess his mantra though is

4:46

like, make it appear like it's just me and Caleb

4:48

and my wife doing everything. Or not even his wife,

4:51

you know. Make

4:53

it almost very... This is

4:55

like a huge show, right? It's like a massive

4:57

Amazon private show, millions of pounds

4:59

behind it. And I

5:01

feel like, you know, he must

5:03

have loads of stuff on the go all the

5:05

time. No, they do. I mean, like, the farm

5:08

shop, whenever they cut to that, there's a bunch

5:10

of people there. They have a burger stand. He

5:12

has all... I mean, it's very clever. It's a

5:14

very clever production. I know

5:16

that for one thing, the council in that area,

5:18

Chipping Norton or whatever it is, put

5:21

out a statement saying that the show is really

5:23

unfair to them. And in the

5:25

last series, there was like a town hall meeting. And

5:28

the implication, the way the show was edited

5:30

was that it was like a five minute

5:32

meeting and they barely got to say anything.

5:34

But in fact, it was a really big

5:36

meeting and the producers... Because I don't think

5:39

it's not Jeremy Clarkson saying, here's what we're

5:41

going to try this week. It's

5:43

a production meeting that comes up with this. It's content.

5:46

It's a TV show. Well, I

5:48

think at the same time though, we

5:50

know what these little councils are like. And this

5:52

is exactly what they're like. And also they can

5:54

say whatever They want a year and a

5:56

half after the show's gone out and they've been

5:58

forced to backtrack. Right. The be at

6:00

the time I think it was very much

6:03

like he was being unfairly. How hundred? Why

6:05

are you saying that that? Well okay because

6:07

on a show peers I don't know very

6:09

well. we're really know. The way I think

6:11

that they think this is a know in

6:14

my backyard situation right where they're like either

6:16

what they see my up. They also think

6:18

is is T V said it's gonna be

6:20

taught in five years right Which it may

6:22

well be You is just. Safely.

6:25

Take a yellow quite happily for the last

6:27

fifty you know and he's coming along rocking

6:29

the boat in a maze way and then

6:31

he's gonna be don't once the soviets cancelled

6:34

you know and of doing something else will

6:36

seven the phone a not constituting anymore just

6:38

of. Being. This upheaval and I can

6:40

see why they would treat it like

6:42

that but I think that the same

6:44

time it is so difficult to get

6:46

like to see to deal with the

6:48

council right like like friend of mine

6:50

as could just gotten tix off their

6:52

land because they had a shed in

6:54

in the m next to their little

6:56

farm so now they can't farm that

6:58

land anymore because a said you know

7:00

if because again it's in the boss

7:02

outstanding area of net for a raise.

7:05

They taught have a shared by the side

7:07

be no it's because it as we allow

7:09

said them we allow someone compels yeah that's

7:11

it says at structure know that and so

7:14

on. Me like look a lot of these

7:16

rules we we think they look silly but

7:18

the point is is you don't have these

7:20

regulations people will just fill things like car

7:22

parks everywhere which is one of the things

7:25

that Jeremy Clarkson paid was you want to

7:27

build a cop out for people to park

7:29

at the farm shop and will or estimate

7:31

is everybody does that just willy nilly. it

7:34

is a destruction of of. The land and

7:36

I. I I honestly I'm very sympathetic

7:38

with having these regulations in place because

7:40

if you don't, you end up with

7:42

genuine fucking hell skates l give example.

7:44

Okay when I went to Southern Spain

7:46

as like a few years ago now

7:49

you go to the rams as Cydia

7:51

and around there there's a lot of

7:53

farming and they use greenhouses to grow

7:55

tomatoes and things like that year round

7:57

mainly ways or workers from Africa I'm

7:59

in. And. The I can these greenhouses

8:01

and unbelievable conditions cranking out fruit and vegetable

8:04

our supermarkets when we came. I am definitely

8:06

spoken about this before. came over the hill

8:08

from the airport with coming down to the

8:10

the sort of seaside were was staying and

8:13

or you can see is an ocean of

8:15

greenhouses. As far as the eye can see

8:17

it's like being on the moon. it's like

8:19

a massive moon base just millions of spoken

8:21

eight as of of. Greenhouses,

8:24

All shining in the site looks like shit

8:26

and it's fucking horrible and it's just miserable

8:28

working conditions and or for is ruined the

8:30

area and is in terms of how it

8:32

looks. If you it's like you're in a

8:34

joint factory that just pumps out for the

8:36

freedom. That's that's it and it is you

8:39

allow be. Industrialization of the countryside is one

8:41

like does it and no one says anything

8:43

why not everyone do it but I'd like

8:45

to like he's doing him and doing this

8:47

shit. It's with no regard to the environment.

8:49

I think it is in a whole same

8:51

of course. of course you shouldn't This. Was

8:53

a nice be people. On top of

8:56

these existed rampant capitalism and an awful

8:58

believe and. But. The corruption

9:00

up by it but they knew that something was going

9:02

on at the clock since farm and they knew

9:04

that like loads of traffic was coming down. he

9:06

opened his farm shop and that was yeah he wanted

9:08

to do right. yeah any. but it was clear

9:10

that at points that they were no one has

9:12

even come down to look. The. He was

9:14

like tell about Iraq and they just said

9:17

know right and so so again. as I

9:19

said it's going to park in the fields

9:21

units. There were bits of the show where

9:23

it was clear that there wasn't common sense

9:25

being used so on either side, but it

9:27

has to be common where I don't know

9:29

the story. Of course we that is a

9:32

Today there was plenty of opportunity to apply.

9:34

Did my father have no business ounces the

9:36

like everyone's run into these council's doing. You

9:38

know. Than. And the kind of people

9:40

who run them it's not assess my ipod

9:42

or or insane is and I don't we

9:45

we don't know the truth or insane is.

9:47

Both. Of them have a vested interest in portraying

9:50

the other is the bad guy so it is

9:52

no at a situation like that like any like

9:54

his his the whole his he the whole thing

9:56

is a very states right? Yeah since that the

9:58

whole thing I mean like on you. Episode

10:00

three: Yeah, the one with the pigs and

10:02

we're all yeah, brilliant right? Like yeah. First

10:04

of all the scene where he's trying to

10:06

get the pigs to fuck is hilarious. Arkansas

10:08

does seem very I was really love and

10:10

about but then when Tailored sends up and

10:12

says what do you mean you've done and

10:14

he's I yep this is sides All these

10:16

these lady pig sounds like you're gonna have

10:18

C C piglets running around here or the

10:20

same time. We see Cox and Size and

10:22

it's brilliant and even though I know it's

10:24

set up and even though I know that

10:26

the production of done this knowing that this

10:28

will happen because it clearly go advisors. On

10:30

hand who would say own and I don't do

10:32

that that's crazy but it's much funnier if we

10:35

then have says be piglets running around that is

10:37

not when he said it for the show so

10:39

i almost a it's almost like a sitcom into

10:41

the open silencing of like I use in the

10:43

town so as this villa know that alone on

10:46

goes to the bag in in the so of

10:48

course they happens you know and and an almost

10:50

like trying to get one over on them with

10:52

all these plans but of course when they hear

10:55

about the idea that he summer circumvent the rules

10:57

of course they gonna actually doubled down on that

10:59

even more. Than why they would be

11:01

upset with someone publicly splicing best of people

11:03

are you never will be like why did

11:05

he get a free pass Smokers is famous

11:07

He does not the for the same rules

11:09

as we did. I had to do see

11:11

this process with you three years ago to

11:13

get this done and that than a now

11:16

he gets a walk in so the council

11:18

has to come down. I mean if you're

11:20

breaking the rules and and ninety percent sure

11:22

the homicide the just like just build it

11:24

and when accounts of those to knock it

11:26

down it'll be good content For us it's

11:28

a gift to have a villain especially a

11:30

faceless villain who would never get to see

11:32

that Just oh the evil town so it's

11:34

good tally but I'd I'd toilets we too

11:36

much into adjusted it like to sit com

11:38

base. yeah right yeah it is. I mean

11:40

half of the ludicrous of almost all of

11:42

the ludicrous things he does you could even

11:44

see it planned now. Ula Okay season one

11:46

with these animals utility, different item or I

11:48

really like different animal of course you know

11:50

it's like that is like it's a very.

11:53

Wrote haven't we done yet right? Do

11:55

this thou, what else is there? I

11:57

mean it's it's sister I love seeing

12:00

will be crazy farm equipment. Did you

12:02

go see. The. Thing that they have

12:04

for picking berries that from the Amish

12:06

seen that you drag a long while

12:08

I was over. oh yeah no the

12:10

big on yeah well that's how they

12:12

harvest grapes and stuff in Rio and

12:14

online was in realize think about what

12:16

that does yeah environment just putting destroys

12:18

it to get all the more you

12:20

off but simple know but that isn't

12:22

that what would you took the is

12:24

designed for farmed grown like like grapes

12:26

in a long line Jamie let you

12:28

grow your your bush's in a very

12:30

long life nor in the wild is

12:32

not use. For harvesting wilde black was

12:35

you sponsoring? does it notices dragging along

12:37

A sense like that was no no

12:39

of course not is used for dragging

12:41

along as line of trees you plus

12:43

the the line know of popular site

12:45

what the fuck Music assertion of Texas

12:47

is that I mean I story broke

12:49

rifle that's just the wall wasn't straight

12:51

I thought it was literally a machine

12:53

or so. What is amazing piece of

12:55

engineering half of this farm equipment is

12:57

that they're like this I must know

12:59

does all of these things is like

13:01

raising but obvious but as a. Result

13:03

is so specialize he and it's so

13:05

expensive so you know Rave attracts all

13:07

these days is year over to underground

13:10

yeah but this them beautiful they really

13:12

are is a lot of you to

13:14

bits of people don't farming i think

13:16

it is are like so I know

13:18

you were saying sips legal reform against

13:20

it's it's sort of added into the

13:22

public consciousness this intriguing the machinery of

13:24

it. now I'm I'm It's not like

13:26

trainspotting with people like tractor spotting, but

13:28

I think you can certainly look at

13:30

the way people watch other people work

13:32

as kind of like trainspotting. He said

13:34

of intrigued to see what equipment they've gotten.

13:37

How they do what they do it's a

13:39

it's interesting oh it's fascinating and and like

13:41

just seeing how did just even like a

13:43

state they oversee pot heads against the so

13:46

of food requirements. Ryan is because they're not

13:48

doing his hobby farm. it's right us. The

13:50

other thing is like they they look down

13:53

on hobby farm as bad the same time

13:55

you know they play laugh of retired may

13:57

have to fill out of safety standards seat.

14:00

Whenever you know book or put a

14:02

cell by day on their job in

14:04

asia they that on the what they

14:06

will both hands of the he knows

14:08

they want to sell less of to

14:10

global marketplace but also. Not

14:13

have to follow any the room and like I

14:15

get it right like it's your try to min

14:17

max but that that they are not really like

14:19

like Clarkson will not do anything by hand his

14:22

whole stretch his own stick is that if there's

14:24

a job I want to do with the machine

14:26

right I would not lift a finger here he

14:28

says or innocence yeah on the. Floor. I'm no

14:30

bended dad's pick that up right? Yea I they'll

14:33

be a machine for and he plays up to

14:35

them all. It's a it's like it's like it's

14:37

a bit of like Top Gear mixed into a

14:39

farm show. right? Like it it's own for. So

14:42

here's a chance for me. To us. you know,

14:44

like in season Three, you've got that that Wally

14:46

machine for the brambles and he loves it so

14:48

much. You know it's like he calls it like

14:50

is like mental therapy machine or whatever, but now

14:53

ends up to getting a bunch of goats to

14:55

do the job anyway because the machine has it's

14:57

limitations. but there's like a whole episode basically of

14:59

him. Remote controlling this machine

15:02

around to to cut through fog,

15:04

brambles and and stuff but I

15:06

asked her it's it's really fun

15:08

seen a less ghastly and I

15:10

wonder whether highlight how much of

15:12

that. I. Think a lot of it is.

15:14

Ah, arbitrary here. They've been through the farm

15:17

catalog. yeah, like what these dumb dumb machines

15:19

can we buy for this episode? Yeah, but

15:21

it's but it's but it is mixed with

15:23

genuine moments of the authentic. That's the thing

15:25

I think about Top Gear's well is that

15:28

I really so we get a grudging respect

15:30

from fool get enough in the middle of

15:32

the night and the having a lease piglets

15:34

be born and and doing all this stuff

15:37

down of himself to it's to a large

15:39

extent. Get a It

15:41

feels like there's enough good moments the

15:43

onstage as well mixed in. Jagr on

15:45

yeah yeah that that that would just

15:48

happen. you know over time of Zola

15:50

I just remembered something I really wanted

15:52

to to. He goes about that they

15:55

don't This is this is crazy Only

15:57

found about out about this this morning.

15:59

Ah. You remember that massive container ship

16:01

the crashed into the bridge in Baltimore? Yes,

16:04

Oh yes it's You know that twenty one

16:06

of the crew are still trapped on board

16:08

that ship. More you talking about their A

16:10

Twenty one members of the crew trapped on

16:12

board the ship. Wow. the why do you

16:14

think they're trapped on both only com the

16:16

container? Like are they saying like are they

16:18

tied up in like that like red tape.

16:20

Basically they cannot leave the ship because they

16:22

don't have the right visas. Yeah so they're

16:24

on the ship. I didn't think I'm a

16:26

why they didn't say as or I will

16:28

just stick even a fucking hotel. Their stock

16:30

ownership and Dsp. I took all iphones away.

16:32

It's men like a month. And a half

16:34

were selling or two months or whatever it's

16:37

been. So this guy day these guys are

16:39

just on this fucking boat and they can't

16:41

do anything then allowed to leave my nose

16:43

math wild and they had this controlled demolition

16:45

of part of the bridge because the simplest

16:47

stuff like the ship is actually on up

16:50

on the can't move it because it might

16:52

open up and sync because his bits of

16:54

fucking bridge over the place so any sort

16:56

of tangled up in the the bridge or

16:58

and I'm not talking about who was in

17:00

the wrong or whatever regarding the bridge that's

17:03

all gonna come from down the line. who

17:05

knows what that the situation there's gonna be

17:07

story. So the using. The. Using explosives

17:09

yes to blow away parts of the

17:11

breeze from the boat we say have

17:13

forsaken twenty one lenses still day on

17:15

day on so that only sales and

17:17

then lost and controlled demolition to blow

17:19

up these that to the bridge or

17:21

the stop hanging on the ship to

17:23

sort of stuck in of the as

17:25

the bridge say as is so America

17:27

this was a subtler just hello Mary

17:29

can like whatever you just the sinners

17:31

is inhumane man this is what is

17:33

inhumane. Let the lights off the fucking

17:35

shit stick them in a i'd rather

17:37

be imprisoned was. Especially the fuck him

17:40

personally oriental something silva expensive only Oreo

17:42

yes it is still on that such

17:44

as and while was you blow and

17:46

he was got no phone no when

17:49

I was just hope that I had

17:51

my T C with me somehow you

17:53

don't and I my steam library and

17:56

no no no you do not understand

17:58

it opened the cargo containers. No

18:00

one here there. It's either low in a

18:02

cost the way it's just have by know

18:04

it's gates and some old Vhs tape. know

18:06

he'll be like you dozens that storage wars

18:09

or whatever he they were has a psychopath.

18:11

Adidas. oh man, way to look. So we

18:13

got some collectible of what are these pokemon

18:15

cards? They do that just like I'm playing

18:17

pokemon and said no legal Matsuda here oh

18:20

my god is able to stuff from the

18:22

Ukraine stuck in there? I don't know. I

18:24

don't know what it was coming in, I

18:26

think. Lower. I'd rather lose. This

18:28

is probably just crap. As

18:31

is a lot Amazon crap

18:33

that you the everyone Xena?

18:35

yeah, grooming tomes and. Just

18:38

just as expensive luxury garbage out.

18:40

You know who knows what it

18:43

is not three garbage. luxury of

18:45

job itself to pick up an

18:47

orange off the for the name

18:49

night's sleep it's not our suits.

18:51

Months is very specialized gimmicks and.

18:54

Now the goddess thus American on that serves

18:56

as a city. I don't know what the

18:58

justification come before it genuinely I think it's

19:00

it's just insane. Ah sent to say you

19:02

know know you can't get off It just

19:04

is that there has to be a better

19:06

way. I mean it clearly is a better

19:09

way. Is this is just insane? That is

19:11

this still stuck on the I wonder if

19:13

people knew that they were still stuck on

19:15

that like that's crazy. Well I guess so

19:17

like a super no no I'm just saying

19:19

her But I wonder if the people as

19:21

in you know if people were aware that.

19:24

These lads was tiny. I had no idea that

19:26

they were just stuck on their lives of people

19:28

know that this to suck on their like into

19:30

that the of the general populace of people aware

19:32

of that. Let let let let your imagination run

19:35

free and imagine being stuck in the belly of

19:37

a massive cargo container ship with nothing to do

19:39

the forty nine days same started at each other's

19:41

I'd they're not even bringing food and water lowest

19:44

they need to get of gender. didn't cry hope

19:46

of the door and going to be like. They.

19:48

Need know these guys some alien were

19:51

laptops and some complimentary steam accounts with

19:53

that with some some of the greats

19:55

pre installed on their to keep him

19:57

busy you know just of he again

19:59

premiere in eight assists. Really reasonable for

20:01

the show and got premier and symbolical

20:03

for these events such as helicoptering supply

20:05

that says or expensive derby like what

20:07

one thinks are they such an american

20:09

The of idea though is that of

20:12

like I just amazing like way when

20:14

it's like they're responsible riding will double

20:16

or something but food be I mean

20:18

it could be a criminal case against

20:20

the company, might be that they were

20:22

stupid and fucked up the ship and

20:24

weren't doing their jobs properly and caused

20:26

the crash and that crisis caused untold.

20:28

Now it's like good that that's. The

20:31

bridge costs which is really fucked with the

20:33

economy and in that area I'm sure a

20:35

leader on those are not diminishing the effects

20:37

of the crash and and what a disaster

20:39

was These guys might will end up being

20:41

liable for the company, might go bankrupt for

20:44

it in terms of liability but is also

20:46

a huge elements who these and Seligman found

20:48

guilty. These it's just some lead stuck on

20:50

a ship and you'll make them stay there

20:52

because of bureaucracy. When I saw trap title

20:54

god didn't they just get some Och Will

20:57

doesn't cut these ones out. Know that trapped

20:59

by bureaucracy? that's hella. Such dire our spare

21:01

and is nuts but you know hit

21:03

some I'm I'd miss the exact same

21:05

thing would happen over here though. they

21:07

would be some stupid at that I

21:09

play with. They would somehow find some

21:11

way to make it. Really

21:14

really really stupid and awkward.

21:16

And. Yeah. It's it's all

21:18

the it's all the wrong people. They get

21:20

involved in the Android, but you kind of

21:22

rely on them in some ways to keep

21:24

things running like they do, but then in

21:26

other ways they're just the worst. The big

21:29

big you know, they get in the way

21:31

and I mean come back the clock since

21:33

farm like look like it's it's the same.

21:35

It's like. It's. The council all over

21:37

again or two people to make this

21:39

the the rules about every little thing

21:41

that they kind of mood pool little

21:43

bit but if those regulations and stuff

21:45

weren't in place then you know it

21:47

would be if it was as leave.

21:49

this is kind of adler it is

21:51

rather than i have bad license and

21:53

and I understand why they made that

21:55

choice because they were like oh well

21:57

you know skill at Alcatraz your their

21:59

traps. Prison or mag you know

22:01

we have that security guards right to say

22:03

get out there start yeah we take their

22:06

phones feals pills mean yeah because even though

22:08

I think on even concept their families and

22:10

said that just the scotus or it's just

22:12

as is still feels a bit sit com

22:15

and of at america's I mean cause that's

22:17

what you get they'll be we looking at

22:19

the the Donald Trump trial the sweet like

22:21

over lossy we are in his as always

22:24

in the background bumbling away you hear hear

22:26

stuff about it right now I'm. And.

22:28

It's kind of fascinating hearing about

22:30

that the case new place about.

22:33

Six that we didn't want to know

22:35

about. The Sunset Ls that is over

22:37

Science is so gross. Offensive zone. All

22:40

of it is back on a daily.

22:42

so what? one or two days a

22:44

week. And he did a really funny

22:46

episode the other night a Battle Syrup.

22:48

So yeah, sorry John Stewart and I'm

22:50

it was about corruption in Us politics

22:52

and it was a special about it.

22:54

and it was about this guy is

22:56

his name Melendez. It. It is ridiculous

22:58

thing. What? What's that? What's the episode? It's

23:00

really fun is like twenty minute video. But.

23:02

Then he talks about the general corruption in

23:05

American politics and I had no idea that

23:07

I'm senators in the U S outperform hedge

23:09

funds in terms of their and sort of

23:11

return on investment for things like the stock

23:14

market and not just by a little bit

23:16

of by a lot more like a lot

23:18

like they are clearly trading with insider information

23:21

and no one's looking business and about it

23:23

is this is a thing that happens they

23:25

just a bit of insider trading and are

23:27

you know the he was a his whole

23:30

point was this is such a dumb corrupt

23:32

some would. You don't even need it you

23:34

can already just by being supposedly above board

23:36

make a fucking fortune mere say I was

23:38

a it was really interesting and a very

23:40

funny A very funny but yeah i think

23:42

that the as the bit he so much

23:44

him was that it's almost like they and

23:46

he gets done for corruption if they have

23:48

a cartoon bags muslim societies and this guy

23:50

was of it like returned home and when

23:52

they so he was doing mister he gets

23:54

home of this is my favorite part they

23:56

find that his computer the he googled how

23:58

much is a t. The gold were.

24:02

No my years you go search of

24:04

it gives you a waiver, a cartoonist,

24:06

bag of gone Lydia weed ads and

24:08

that's why he's in trouble is but

24:10

it's funny the asked the guy that

24:13

saw the guy know I know John

24:15

Oliver D that see off with pay

24:17

Clarence I will say Clarence Thomas the

24:19

Supreme Coleman I. Am

24:21

of it's by my car a Winnebago

24:23

cause that's one of the things that

24:26

he received his from as a gift

24:28

yes you know from a political yeah

24:30

group you know that he spreads with

24:32

on top of will. the other stuff

24:34

is safe but that's like have been

24:36

a bribery thrive on average to a

24:39

tip would say now John of as

24:41

have written to arrive Clarence Thomas was

24:43

causes Korea mystically a joke but it's

24:45

also light skinned was it's kind of

24:47

have the game played. sigh yes it's

24:49

it I am. I can't remember his

24:52

name. The lawyer Trump's lawyer own Cohen

24:54

yeah A he's like testifying I guess

24:56

a good against him right? He sees

24:58

when the Lisa Ling on the like

25:00

half the people Trump has worked with

25:03

they will turn on him because yes

25:05

he be betrayed them so they're me

25:07

or in him and added oh shit

25:09

space there's there's a guy they are

25:11

there is a republican spokesperson there they

25:14

interviewed him and he was going on

25:16

and on about how this guy Cohen

25:18

is just A he's a snake and

25:20

he's. And known liar. And he's Steve the

25:22

one who's be imprisoned and stuff. It's like.

25:25

Yeah. Okay, that's fine but he was.

25:27

He was Trump's lawyer and the

25:29

right person who you know like

25:31

it like would like very close

25:33

aide for years while he would

25:35

have while he was president must

25:37

supposedly write your name is company

25:39

succeed that you're describing is being

25:41

so it's abhorrence. a think away

25:43

and it's so stupid it my

25:45

god it's like eons. I think

25:47

it was that I was reading

25:49

this thing in Texas where a

25:51

lot of like the big be

25:53

at the saying you know lights.

25:56

You elect us so that we can we can

25:58

find the sword. This stayed out. Like most

26:00

powerful twenty seven you don't have you thought

26:02

was just like I know I don't know

26:04

the have priests I don't know how the

26:06

come up with the stuff in the first

26:08

place to shoot themselves in the foot with

26:11

like you but it's like the council again

26:13

right? It's like they've of this stuff is

26:15

a slit his people say oh this guy's

26:17

do it and he's gonna like this one

26:19

will do as well in it and it's

26:21

not until someone's mind example on here though.

26:23

They all the rules are simple I feel

26:25

like also this is set in the Us

26:27

it feels like the funding for the people

26:29

who as the police This stuff. Has.

26:31

Been dropping dropping is that they cells

26:34

police as well. it's like oh well

26:36

I must. I don't think ice of

26:38

after to do that. No no cosa

26:40

I'll think I'd I'd the police of

26:42

me and I don't think I'd do

26:44

it as Iran. Oh thank you for

26:47

the gold watch Rolex was yeah super

26:49

nice. How much? How much is a

26:51

thorough oh wow that's that's great. Yeah

26:53

it's it's it's it's it's it's mental.

26:55

It's and but I mean it's It's

26:57

nothing new though. like it's you know

27:00

I mean look at like I. Look

27:02

at the whole thing with bike, Oj and

27:04

everything back in the day of an enemy,

27:06

countless other trials and just just kind of

27:09

miscarriages of justice and simple. Get away with

27:11

it all as well. It doesn't matter how

27:13

many people come out and say that he's

27:15

done this, that in the other whatever, he's

27:17

got a lot of money he'll just get

27:20

away with. This year, it'll you'll be fine.

27:22

He'll be able to run for president my

27:24

even when again. Who knows. But like a

27:26

issues, is this away the world? You are

27:29

those one rules for the raising the minimum.

27:31

The really. Really necessary to perfect perfect

27:33

example of it. I hope I'm wrong

27:35

but I have a feeling I we're

27:37

very say I'm not going to be

27:39

rapid for the last two orders. Yeah

27:42

exactly. I mean is it the oh

27:44

is it just does happen time and

27:46

time again. if somebody with enough money

27:48

want something to happen. It'll happen

27:50

like at you know, in in their

27:52

in their favor for sure and this

27:55

is just. Kinda how the

27:57

world works is. you know that in

27:59

America they have something called Confederate Heroes

28:01

Day. I. Did you know that

28:03

know I the things you have like

28:05

I like hey I think it's like

28:07

an office admin day in a more

28:10

they as well. I think it was

28:12

last month. probably less controversial. it's a

28:14

majority but I mean slit consider ears

28:16

day is in Texas and Florida I

28:18

think and it's basically in the southern

28:20

states. they they have a day. It's

28:23

like Confederate Heroes day, Confederate decoration, they

28:25

Confederate Memorial Day and and a lot

28:27

of people saying you know they they

28:29

shouldn't to do it because it's like

28:31

celebrating. I said sleep of the

28:33

bad guys yeah size in in the

28:35

Civil War on yeah but I don't

28:38

see them as well done by. but

28:40

yes but which is itself a problem

28:42

we are. That's all well did we

28:44

can debate that will die on. Same

28:46

is it is a bank holiday so

28:48

try get my tonsils like you could

28:51

have a bank holiday in this country.

28:53

So fucking frightened Rose West and I

28:55

think people with lots of the Nurburgring

28:57

office and says do some running low

28:59

and a half mile looks most Nazi

29:01

salt. very. Hard to lot number

29:04

five so we'll have a Nazi

29:06

Memorial Day. but it's I noticed

29:08

him and Bamba Yellow the novelty

29:10

of months Use a house speaker

29:12

Little Jimmy Savile Monday with a

29:15

city so lucky ones.psych Ward my

29:17

bike. Goal of the people fucking

29:19

love a bank he may you.

29:21

What you did it go to

29:23

was was that by Rory? Oh

29:26

my god I google put someone

29:28

else in this process of by

29:30

codes are you so no Doctor.

29:32

Who stood separate? Would

29:35

I thought we were withdrawn thoughts are

29:37

now. Albert was. Another

29:40

another this moment it's a bank holidays.

29:42

It's like any any political pressure to

29:44

get it removed. Everybody's like while it

29:46

is a day off you know new

29:48

enough to find someone else is tom

29:50

take away people's bank. Always imagine trying

29:52

to take bank holidays away. I would

29:54

love to see how political party did

29:56

is everything else was great but they

29:58

were going to remove all public holidays.

30:00

They had this amazing manifesto like ten

30:02

amazing points and point eleven is we're

30:04

removing all public holidays they have. It

30:07

does matter how good your other policies

30:09

are, he puts it with that one.

30:11

Just as easy as it is

30:13

weird that these things happen right?

30:15

Because. They. Know you still have

30:17

to be repaid they don't played little

30:19

extras your holiday all they bank whole

30:21

face you it's it's have paid it's

30:23

a pay day off yeah is a

30:26

place i also public holiday a visit

30:28

with was younger and cia so you

30:30

so with if you go to. if

30:32

you get it at the a job

30:34

they give you x amount of of

30:36

day as high as twenty five days

30:38

and eat a generally twenty four. I

30:40

saw it bank holidays fear which everybody

30:42

get which everyone is in addition to

30:44

the public. oh well less and less.

30:46

And less people get them now. Has a

30:48

lot of places are open on bank holidays

30:51

now Wanna retail is unlikely to pay like

30:53

get time off would double for work and

30:55

by holidays swarm all skin though is

30:57

is other countries without bank. Heart of however

30:59

that thirty one thirty two days by told

31:02

they to see I mean there is any

31:04

overland know already five because Snowden Seven last

31:06

moment. I don't know why we settled on

31:09

twenty five but we've we've the i mean

31:11

in America that of insulated from Amazon Standard

31:13

like I think I think most oh so

31:16

at least. Over here I think it's

31:18

like twenty two to twenty five days

31:20

of yeah of holiday As a billion

31:22

on the job of utter a financial

31:24

places most of the banks that I've

31:26

worked at there's a mandatory requirement for

31:28

you to take two weeks off. Right?

31:31

Have been like your two consecutive weeks

31:33

off at some point in the year

31:35

and that's apparently because you could be

31:38

you know, fleecing them. But if you're

31:40

off for two weeks they might be

31:42

able to find that you been doing

31:44

over bandleader about it. Yes has a

31:46

yes Yes So increase didn't show up

31:48

to work or prove it's one of

31:50

eighty seven percent his recess to This

31:53

is a number of reasons. that one

31:55

is that sometimes people don't take any

31:57

home. I didn't know, they just so

31:59

forget. They lose it and that's bad.

32:01

And the other one is that some

32:03

people like to just turn their job

32:05

to a four day week job. Yeah,

32:07

alright yeah, yeah. that taken Lucille. Very

32:09

healthy, micro Illinois and so I think

32:11

it's so. There's a lot of reasons

32:13

why people might force people to take

32:15

Jose. Yeah and god knows if they're

32:17

good or bad you never see people

32:19

could use a common sense. I feel

32:21

like. A solid bike whole

32:23

days. There's always this argument around things

32:26

like changing that time back and forth

32:28

you know and and the summer holidays

32:30

from the school for kids are ask

32:32

like these are all a bit well

32:35

have Town area is the same for

32:37

everybody and I used to find at

32:39

times when at work this is before

32:41

I had kids even you had like

32:44

I you had like a holiday snipers

32:46

and basically you'd look at the calendar

32:48

and guaranteed every half term there would

32:51

be for five people off. So

32:53

like you there's just no chance unless he

32:55

got in there like building a New Years

32:57

or six years or day we are something

32:59

to to book it like a year in

33:01

advance that there's no way you're getting any

33:03

of those week for those air. Really that's

33:05

not the fastest. the nature of the i

33:07

like having a kid you have to and

33:09

for let's not let affairs it's using it

33:11

on purpose. I think they ask the right

33:13

yes this is always a to pay for

33:15

them to be in a daycare was somebody

33:17

as sire. If you've got like kids between

33:19

a certain age range is tricky to keep

33:21

busy for. we tied. Magic Man. So you

33:23

give you what you. You don't have.

33:26

You guys don't have full time jobs Ortiz

33:28

haven't done. My youth has around right now.

33:30

Being a parent is a full time. yeah,

33:32

that's our job in and of itself. I

33:35

why I wouldn't I wouldn't know. a suicide,

33:37

your holiday? Yeah, that's true. Yeah by me.

33:39

much as we I was ill, I was.

33:42

So I mean we we still have to

33:44

if we want to go away somewhere

33:46

with the kids. We still have to go

33:48

at half time though You can't. You gotta

33:51

go through a whole process basically to apply

33:53

to pull your kid outta school. Not. on

33:55

half term so i say you wanted to go somewhere

33:57

for a week like for like a bereavement or or

34:00

anything, there's like a whole

34:02

application process that goes through to

34:04

a committee and they approve it

34:06

or don't approve it. One

34:09

time we were coming back from vacation,

34:11

this counted as an unauthorized

34:13

absence. Our

34:16

travel was delayed and

34:19

so my daughter missed one day

34:21

of school and we got in

34:23

touch with them and said, sorry, she's not going to

34:25

be there on Monday because this, that and the other

34:27

or whatever. And they're like, oh,

34:30

well, do you have any proof? And we're like,

34:32

well, yeah, I mean, like we can see that

34:34

this cancel, whatever. And they were asking

34:36

for like emails and all this stuff. And then in

34:38

the end, they're like, yeah, we're not satisfied that you

34:41

gave us enough proof. So it's an unauthorized

34:43

absence. We're like, oh, so what

34:45

happens now? And they're like, oh, well, nothing.

34:47

It's just an unauthorized absence. Yeah. So

34:50

they just keep the record on. And I

34:52

can do what the fuck I like, basically. Yeah,

34:54

yeah, yeah, yeah. We just had to go through

34:56

this whole song and dance about flexing

34:59

our supposed power to

35:01

you. Oh, okay,

35:03

great. Thanks. Okay, so I'll just

35:06

bring my kid back when I'm good and ready.

35:08

Thank you so much. I'm glad that we had

35:10

this conversation. It's so

35:12

stupid. Like it's really fucking stupid.

35:15

Yeah, if you want to be in charge, you

35:17

can come over and put them to fucking bed

35:19

every night too. You want to do

35:21

the lunches in the morning as well? Once

35:24

you're taking such a proactive approach

35:26

with my kids, fine. You know

35:28

what I mean? It's like, fuck

35:30

me. It's so crazy. I

35:33

mean, I think they have to record

35:35

it not because they're going to do

35:37

you for one unauthorized absence. Yeah. But

35:40

because if there's a history of it, then they can look at

35:42

whether or not you're actually doing your best to get your kids

35:45

to school. You will get a

35:47

lot of parents who just don't give a shit and

35:50

don't take their kids to school. And the kid

35:52

is essentially suffering because of the parent being a

35:54

shit. I mean, there's a lot of safeguarding and

35:56

stuff in there and it's good too. Yeah. If

35:59

your kid turns... up like, you know,

36:01

and it looks like their clothes

36:03

aren't clean or they haven't eaten

36:06

or... The principal of here, I

36:08

need some shoes. Good lord. What is that thing?

36:10

An assumption household. No,

36:13

but I mean, that is all of that

36:16

is important stuff. But I think that

36:19

the holiday thing is a bit of

36:21

a gray area. Honestly, I think it's

36:23

a fucking waste of time. I

36:27

think it's just like, I don't know. There

36:29

is an element at schools of

36:32

jobswords as well, right? Oh, yeah. I

36:35

guess they just don't have enough to do. So

36:37

they have to invent all

36:39

these crazy rules and regulations

36:42

around like, like non-important stuff.

36:45

I like it when it comes back to Biden

36:47

though, when it's like a leopard's ate my face

36:49

type situation. Yeah, there's like this

36:53

black lawyer who's been representing sort of

36:55

corrupt cops and he I read a

36:57

news article that he got stopped by

36:59

a cop. It happened to be one

37:02

of the ones who he protected. Right. Yeah.

37:06

And he got unfairly assaulted and arrested

37:08

by this guy because he didn't recognize

37:10

him. And then

37:12

he tried to get him in trouble,

37:14

but he just couldn't... It

37:18

was a totally awful situation. But

37:23

there's a bunch of those. He tried to get him in

37:25

trouble, but it would have exposed him further sort of thing

37:27

if he pursued it. There's

37:30

so many things like that. I saw one,

37:32

what was it this week, where

37:34

someone was like, oh, I convinced my

37:36

friend to not have an abortion.

37:39

But six months later, the

37:42

baby's been taken away from

37:45

her and they put me down as the

37:48

the person who would look after the baby. Jesus.

37:52

But I can't look after this baby. Yeah,

37:54

yeah. Yeah.

37:57

Yeah. Funny. The person making

37:59

decisions. on behalf of the

38:01

other person then getting lumbered with all

38:04

the responsibility and not wanting it. That's

38:06

a classic, isn't it? It's such a

38:08

classic. Welcome to another

38:10

round of Boredroom or Miroboard. Today,

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38:17

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38:42

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38:47

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On with the show.

41:01

I got a little fact for you

41:04

guys, okay? The Battle of

41:06

Verdun in World War I. Yeah. It

41:09

began with an eight-hour artillery barrage. Sure.

41:11

How many shells do you think they

41:13

fired in 8am? Oh, like a million.

41:15

It was a million. It was a

41:17

million shells. Wow! A million! Yeah, and

41:19

it didn't do shit. We

41:22

visited. We... This must have

41:24

been... Oh, god, this is a long time ago. This

41:26

is going back like 25 years or something. But

41:29

when I first moved over here, I was

41:31

like... I was amazed that

41:33

this place was even occupied by the

41:35

Germans during World War II. And

41:37

I went down like a bit of a... Like,

41:40

at the time, like a rabbit hole, like being

41:42

really interested in... They invaded a

41:44

rabbit hole! Yeah, they did, actually. They built

41:46

a whole bunker system down there, too. It's

41:49

incredible. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They had like birthing

41:51

units for all the rabbits and stuff. Incredible,

41:53

yeah, yeah. These rabbits will be most sensitive.

41:55

Some of this stuff is really interesting, but

41:57

then we... We

42:00

went on a, it was like a weekend

42:02

guided tour of Normandy, like

42:05

all the landing beaches and stuff. And

42:08

it was really interesting. Like

42:10

I really enjoyed touring

42:12

around and viewing

42:14

all of this historical stuff. But one place that

42:17

really stood out for me when we went to

42:19

see it was this place called Point du Hoc,

42:21

which is like a, yeah,

42:24

it was like a, kind of like

42:26

a bit of the land that

42:28

sort of juts out like a

42:30

corner into the sea. But it

42:33

was this really great vantage point

42:35

for this huge section of the

42:37

channel. Isn't it a, like a

42:40

big clip? Yeah. So

42:43

all this, they had all these fortifications,

42:45

bunkers, they had, you know,

42:47

like naval guns and everything. And so

42:49

the idea would be that if the

42:52

channel was gonna be used as a

42:54

place to mount some sort of

42:56

invasion or assault or whatever, they would just be able

42:58

to hammer them. Like they had this perfect vantage point.

43:01

So the allies had to hammer

43:03

this point with

43:05

like this massive sea bombardment before the

43:07

all the D-Day landings could occur. It

43:09

was like, you know, part of the

43:12

plan or whatever. Man, when

43:14

you visit this place, it's like, it just,

43:16

it looks insane. It looks like the whole

43:18

place has just been hit by like thousands

43:21

of meteors. There's

43:23

these huge reinforced bunkers, like

43:25

upside down and shit. Like

43:27

it just got absolutely obliterated.

43:30

It's wild to see that like firsthand, you

43:32

know, like things that you would never expect

43:34

to even be able to move once they're

43:37

there. Just in

43:39

bits, like just unearthed,

43:42

like, oh man, it's wild. It's

43:45

completely, it's like surreal

43:47

when you're there. You just can't believe it. It's

43:49

just insane. When they, I

43:51

think it was the Americans had to attack it,

43:53

this cliff. They had to use like grappling hooks

43:55

and ladders and shit. Yeah, I don't know if

43:58

there was much left after the. after

44:00

the coastal bombardment, because it was... I

44:02

mean, a lot of those coastal bombardments, like

44:05

going back to the Battle of Verdun, it's

44:08

very hard to hit people when they're entrenched

44:10

in bunkers and underground. Fortified and stuff, yeah.

44:12

And a lot of the shells are gonna

44:14

explode on the top and just create craters,

44:17

and you're gonna cause some effects, for sure.

44:19

But a million shells, you would expect to

44:21

walk over and everybody's dead. It'd be interesting

44:23

to see the difference. But they wasn't, because

44:25

we then had the Battle of Verdun, which

44:28

was shit! There must be... There's gotta be

44:30

some big changes between like

44:33

munitions in World War I

44:35

versus World War II as well, right? Not really.

44:37

Like there's gotta be, because I know that they

44:39

used a lot of artillery and stuff in World War

44:41

I, but none of it

44:43

seemed to be overly effective. But then the

44:45

amount of bombs dropped during World

44:48

War II, not only by coastal

44:50

bombardments and artillery, but by plane

44:52

as well, is staggering. Like I...

44:55

Right. But there is a difference. There is

44:57

a difference. I think the

44:59

number one killer of all infantry and

45:02

in pretty much any modern war is artillery. I

45:04

mean, we're seeing that in Ukraine. It's far more

45:06

likely that you're gonna get shelled. Because basically what

45:08

the infantry does is figure out where the other

45:10

infantry is, and then they shell each other. And

45:13

you hope that you survive and that they don't, and

45:15

they have to pull back, or they're so fucked up,

45:17

you can then attack them, whatever. But that's

45:20

mobile warfare. And you're generally moving to a

45:22

position and digging either light fortifications or getting

45:24

in houses or whatever. And in World War

45:26

II, it would have been the same. You're

45:28

in the Bocage, in the hedgerows. That's

45:30

in this part of the war, obviously, not the Eastern Front

45:33

or any of the other fronts. In

45:35

World War I, you had defended positions

45:37

that were solid. You had these big

45:39

trenches, the German trenches, underground bunkers, and

45:41

all this kind of shit. Very, very,

45:43

very good defenses against artillery. So although

45:45

there was a lot of shelling in

45:47

World War I, I don't

45:49

think the munitions was what made the difference so

45:51

much as two very different wars, World War I

45:53

and World War II. World War II is about

45:55

mobility, and the artillery is gonna be

45:58

more effective against troops in the open. than

46:00

it is against lives in trenches.

46:02

So, shelling and coastal bombardments of

46:04

the defenses in D-Day or any

46:06

other situation where it's a defended,

46:09

fixed position and you're shelling it, you're gonna fuck shit

46:11

up for sure, but it's not gonna be the we

46:13

win that you think it is because they're

46:16

just dug in. It's just very hard. I

46:18

don't know though. I think in this case

46:20

it did kind of pave the way for

46:22

some stuff to happen because, like

46:24

I said, I can't see

46:26

that anyone survived. There were like...

46:30

It just looked like there was like impact craters.

46:32

If there's a trench there, it's now like a

46:34

big hole. It was like that. It was just

46:36

insane. Yeah,

46:39

it's funny really these places that have

46:41

been almost deliberately not

46:43

cleaned up and so you can see the

46:45

mounds of earth up and down. There's all

46:47

sorts of places around the world that are

46:49

similar like New Zealand where they were the

46:51

Mari fighting the Brits over

46:58

there and they

47:01

built these big paths and there's still

47:03

ruins that were relatively left

47:05

for a couple of hundred years now,

47:08

sat there in the landscape.

47:11

No one's obviously felt the need to

47:13

go in and... I

47:15

mean, it wouldn't be a huge building work to

47:18

go in and fix these things, but

47:20

it's almost like there's either no need or historical

47:22

value or the local people want to keep it

47:24

or whatever, but it's all over the place, all

47:26

over the English countryside as

47:28

well. Even stuff that's ancient, there's ancient

47:31

barrow mounds and stuff there that I'm

47:33

sure people could have or

47:35

would have easily bulldozed away and

47:37

maybe a lot of them have

47:39

been for cosmetic reasons.

47:41

But yeah, it's fascinating when you

47:43

look sort behind the curtain, you

47:46

can see ruins that are absolutely

47:48

ancient, just around. Yeah, it's

47:51

awesome. Do you know

47:53

what? Another total change of subject here. I

47:55

was watching a clip the other of

47:58

the original film. the fly, the black

48:00

and white one. Have you guys seen that? Yeah,

48:04

where he pukes on the donut when he's like,

48:06

when he's that's the that's the David Cronenberg one.

48:09

Oh, oh, there's a different one. Yeah,

48:11

there was one made in like, I think it was the 60s or 50s

48:13

or something like that called the fly

48:16

same deal. Scientists go through a teleporter.

48:18

But in the in the Cronenberg version

48:20

of the fly, it's just Jeff Goldblum,

48:23

he just becomes Brundle fly, right? So

48:25

he's merged with the fly and becomes

48:27

more fly light as the film goes

48:29

on, because Cronenberg is obsessed with the

48:32

original fly was screenplay was written by

48:34

James Clavell. There you go. And so

48:37

the fly in the the

48:39

original movie, he swaps part of

48:41

him with the fly and the fly gets some

48:43

of him. So they sort of they don't

48:45

merge, they swap some bits. So I think he

48:48

gets the head and arm

48:50

of a fly on

48:52

his human body and the fly gets

48:54

his head and arm. So the

48:57

funny thing is watching it. If

49:00

you think about the more modern one, it's about

49:02

a man being realizing that he's changing in his

49:04

relationship with his girlfriend, I think it was, and

49:06

how he's, you know, he's falling apart, and she's

49:08

sort of trying to stay with him as long

49:10

as she can, and she's so horrified. And he

49:13

sort of changes and becomes kind of kind of

49:15

not evil, but more animal like and pukes

49:17

on that guy's hand, which is the grossest

49:19

scene in the fucking film. But if you

49:22

watch the original, the scientist

49:24

just has the head of a fly,

49:26

but his wife is still making him

49:28

dinner. Like the fly, the fly guy.

49:30

I thought I'd have his dinner, I

49:32

guess. But she's

49:34

still cooking him dinner. But why do you love

49:36

someone? You see beyond the physically. But that's not

49:38

him! You don't know how

49:41

people get married though. They go through

49:43

the whole thing in sickness and in

49:46

health and till death do us part.

49:48

So until you turn

49:50

into a fly transformation as

49:52

well. But that's a

49:54

fly's head. So it's a fly's brain. And

49:57

the fly now that he's got a

49:59

human sized head. and arm and a

50:01

human-sized body is somehow

50:04

able to fit into eating

50:06

dinner at the dinner table which the

50:09

wife is bringing. It just really made

50:11

me laugh. That is how devoted women

50:14

had to be in the 50s. She wasn't

50:16

able to say, that's not my husband, that's

50:18

a fly that just has the head the

50:20

size of a man, but my husband's head

50:22

has been shrunk and he's out there flying

50:24

around. That's my husband. This is a fucking

50:26

fly. No, no, no, no. They're going to

50:28

make him dinner. And he puts a napkin over

50:31

his head when he eats. So he doesn't have to

50:33

see it like he's anxious. If you

50:35

watch it, it's really fucking funny when you think of it

50:37

that way. Like, hang on a second. He's still making him

50:39

dinner. What the fuck? What did he have? I

50:42

can't remember. I haven't watched it maybe one time.

50:44

He just had like a really gorgeous lasagna. It

50:47

was just a clip at the end where this

50:49

guy comes around, I think it's one of the

50:51

other scientists, and they hear, he hears, and

50:55

he looks and there's the scientist who's now half

50:57

fly trapped in a spider web because he's the

50:59

size of a fly. And the spider is

51:01

closing in on him. And the guy goes

51:03

abomination and smashes them with a rock, killing

51:06

the guy. But yeah, anyway, watch

51:09

the film and just just realize

51:11

how funny it is that she's

51:13

cooking for the fly. I thought

51:15

that was really funny. Yeah, that's

51:17

good. Do you want some news?

51:19

Yeah. Yeah, go lose this. It's

51:22

loose news. It's

51:24

party time. It's

51:27

excellent. Oh, wait.

51:29

In the journal Nature,

51:31

they're pretty much the best. Yeah,

51:33

very, very prestigious. Yeah. They've done

51:36

a 16 year study of 2.4

51:39

million people. And they found

51:41

that using the internet may

51:43

actually boost measures of well being

51:45

such as life satisfaction and sense

51:47

of purpose. Challenging the idea the

51:50

internet has negative effects on people's

51:52

welfare. So there you go. I

51:54

knew it all along. That's why

51:56

I spent so much time on

51:58

the net. the world

52:00

wide web. That's why I'm constantly

52:03

busy surfing the information super highway.

52:05

Yeah, that's why I exist mainly

52:07

in cyberspace. Yeah. People who had

52:09

access to the internet on average

52:11

scored 8% higher from

52:14

positive experiences and contentment with their

52:16

social life. Wow. I

52:18

mean, let's be honest, there's a lot of

52:20

porn on the internet. Like, that's going to

52:22

cheer anybody up. Right. The

52:25

positive effect is actually similar to

52:27

the wellbeing benefit associated with taking

52:29

a walk in nature. Oh. Fuck

52:32

it all. So, yeah, people, if people who take a

52:34

walk in nature at school, 8% higher as well. What

52:37

does that even fucking mean? Taking a walk

52:39

in nature. Yeah. Does my garden count? Do

52:41

it, does the park count? It's managed, it's

52:43

not nature. Yes, it does count. Do I

52:45

have to go to a wild piece of

52:47

land? It's not, it's not a particularly long

52:50

walk, but it still counts.

52:52

If you want, technically, you

52:54

have taken a walk in nature if you've

52:56

gone into your backyard, I would say. Yeah.

53:00

That's a good way of putting it. Yeah. So,

53:02

however, women aged 15 to 24 who

53:04

reported having used the internet in the

53:06

past week were on average less happy

53:08

with the place they live. Yeah. Compared

53:12

with people who didn't. Interesting. Interesting. Is

53:14

that because a lot of TikTok aimed

53:16

at young women is very sort of

53:18

aspirational and look how fabulous my life

53:20

is. Why isn't your life as fabulous

53:22

as that? Yeah. The study

53:24

was not designed to answer questions over whether social

53:26

media use is harmful or whether smart phones should

53:29

be banned at schools. I mean,

53:31

they are in most schools, they take them off

53:33

you when you turn up, you've got to put

53:35

them away. And then when you leave school, you

53:37

can turn it back on again. If you're caught

53:39

with your phone in class, that's a big, that's

53:41

a demerit slash detention and

53:44

big trouble. So, an unauthorized absence. Yeah.

53:48

There was some news this week about

53:50

Neuralink, you know, Elon Musk's brain chip.

53:52

Brain chip, yeah. Yeah. And

53:54

the news is that the 29

53:56

year old quadriplegic has been playing

53:59

slave. the Spire and

54:01

old-school RuneScape using his brain. Is

54:03

he any good? Apparently, he's doing

54:05

okay. Like if he's playing

54:07

it but just dying on level one, that's not

54:09

very impressive. No, he says I'd be beating my

54:11

friends in games that as a quadriplegic I should

54:14

not be able to beat them in. So

54:16

he's done. Okay, so like the Spire and RuneScape,

54:19

yeah, I guess, yeah, pretty cool. Yeah, there's this

54:21

guy, he was paralyzed from the neck down after

54:23

an accident in 2016 and he's

54:27

using this chip to interface with

54:29

the computer. Lulu, we should be celebrating

54:31

this. My only question is, would you

54:33

want a chip made by that maniac

54:35

put anywhere in your brain? No,

54:38

but in this case, this is

54:40

a good story. So, you know.

54:42

Sure, sure, let's accept

54:44

that. He's also been playing Mario Kart

54:46

8 Deluxe and Sid Meier's Civilization 6.

54:49

Nice. Using his brain,

54:51

which is really cool. I

54:54

mean, yeah, I'm just very- You don't use

54:56

my brain when I play those games. EA

55:03

is putting ads back into their

55:05

games. Yeah, they're trying to bake

55:07

them into like the environment of

55:09

games and stuff. That would

55:11

be pretty lit. You come

55:13

around the corner to face the ultimate boss and

55:15

it's like, first of all, a message for our

55:17

sponsors. Yeah, well, you know, like, you know, like,

55:20

well, I mean, like, take Fallout, for example, they

55:22

got like old billboards and stuff, you know, advertising,

55:24

Nuka-Cola and stuff like that. I

55:26

guess it would just be similar to that, except it

55:29

would be, you know, Huggies are on sale this week.

55:31

Yeah, get some supplements

55:34

or some, you know. Hair

55:36

loss. Get that fucking- what's that?

55:39

There's like that new injection, the weight

55:41

loss injection, but they're saying now that

55:43

apparently it can be- not only does

55:45

it work and you lose weight when

55:47

you take it, but it can also

55:49

cut your

55:51

risk of

55:53

heart attacks and certain cancers

55:55

and all sorts. I don't

55:57

know how they found all this out so quickly.

55:59

But that was great. Wasn't there a

56:02

thing that Robert F. Kennedy, yeah, Robert F.

56:04

Kennedy, Jr. this week said a worm ate

56:06

part of his brain and then died. Yeah.

56:09

Any evidence for that or is he just,

56:11

he just reckons? I think he just reckons.

56:13

I reckon a worm ate my brain. He

56:15

just had a, he had a feeling in

56:18

his bones that it had to, so dumb.

56:20

Yeah. You

56:22

feeling all right today? No, I reckon a

56:24

worm ate my brain. That's a worm. You

56:26

worm my brain in here. You think goddamn

56:28

worms, get that worm out of the house.

56:30

Ate my brain last time it was in here.

56:32

So stupid. That

56:36

worm ate my brain? He should probably

56:38

call Congress. We want to get these

56:40

worms out. We want good American worms,

56:42

not these foreign brain eating worms. Worm

56:44

ate my brain, RFK. Let's have a

56:47

look. Oh shit, RFK said

56:49

the doctor found a dead worm in his

56:51

brain. Fucking hell. He

56:54

said it ate part of his brain. Oh

56:56

my God. He said that his mercury levels

56:58

were 10 times higher than the environmental

57:00

protection agencies. He's a safe. They did this

57:02

scan. It was caused by a worm that

57:05

got into my brain and ate a portion

57:07

of it and then died. So his brain

57:09

is poisonous to worms. We know that. Oh.

57:12

So he's got a dead worm in his brain, he

57:15

reckons. He reckons, apparently

57:17

lots of people have said, based on

57:19

what he described, it was like the

57:21

pork tapeworm larva. Gross.

57:23

Yeah, do not. God, makes me

57:25

glad to be vegan. It

57:29

has to fucking get that dig

57:31

in there, didn't you? Just one more reason. Vegetables

57:35

never make anyone sick. It's impossible. What

57:37

else is this? Google's AI

57:39

is all set to monitor your

57:41

phone calls for potential scams. Nice.

57:44

So there's going to be like, basically Google's AI

57:46

is going to listen in in real time. It's

57:48

basically going to be there to hold that hand

57:51

of your grandma. And if it detects weird stuff

57:53

going on, it will shut

57:55

it down. It'll be like. This

58:00

is a scam. I

58:02

guess it's like sometimes

58:04

you answer your phone and it's like

58:06

scam, possibly scam call or whatever. Yeah,

58:08

I answer it anyway. I'm intrigued. I

58:11

never answer my phone. Do you not? No. Do

58:14

you know what my trick is? I never

58:16

answer my phone. I never respond to anything

58:19

and I wait. If somebody really, really wants

58:21

to get in touch with me, they can.

58:23

They will. They will. Eventually. They'll

58:25

find a way. That is so I can't pass it.

58:27

It probably won't be by phone or email. That

58:31

is psychopathic. Now, by the way.

58:34

I'll tell you what, my stress levels are

58:36

like rock bottom. I experience, I'd say no

58:38

stress in life. I just don't deal with

58:40

people. I will say it's very hard to

58:42

get you to do stuff and okay. But

58:44

these are people you've, presumably you've given your

58:46

phone number to. No, I don't even. I

58:48

just don't, I just don't give my number

58:50

to people. I don't want to hear from

58:53

them. So I don't give it out. What

58:55

a nut. You are such a nut sometimes. What

58:58

do you mean? It's like a cranky old man

59:00

who's just isolated himself in the world. I don't

59:02

give my phone number to anybody. No, I do.

59:05

I don't give a fuck. I just send

59:07

a fucking telegram. I give my

59:09

phone number if, you know, if somebody asks

59:11

for it or whatever, I

59:13

don't reply or answer. That's

59:15

what I'm saying. Crazy. Well, it's not

59:17

that crazy. It's crazy. So

59:20

last one, to talk about AI. Let

59:23

me just read you this article. AI

59:26

ethicists, right, from

59:28

Cambridge's Leverhume Center for

59:31

Future of Intelligence. Wow.

59:34

Okay. Hold that in your mind.

59:36

Free. Have talked about

59:38

how there are these

59:40

dead bots, or grief bots,

59:42

that are AI chat bots

59:44

that simulate the language patterns

59:47

and personality traits of the

59:49

dead using the digital footprints

59:51

they leave behind. God. Right.

59:54

I'm not a robot that just tweets endlessly about

59:56

how shitty Virgin Media is, and it would appear

59:58

that I was still alive. Exactly,

1:00:00

P-Flex, exactly. This is some

1:00:03

black mirror shit, but some

1:00:05

companies are already offering these

1:00:07

services, providing an entirely new

1:00:10

type of post-mortem presence. Fuck

1:00:12

off. So

1:00:15

there's this fear that you

1:00:18

can be virtually recreated when you

1:00:20

die, but actually, the danger

1:00:23

is that these companies will be

1:00:25

using Dead Boss to surreptitiously advertise

1:00:27

products to users in the manner

1:00:29

of a departed loved one. Wow.

1:00:32

I think a dead parent is

1:00:34

still with you. Fucking

1:00:37

just like a bank couple. And suggests

1:00:39

that you consume Coca-Cola this

1:00:41

holiday season. Oh, beer below with grand

1:00:43

stuff? Just like we used to. We

1:00:45

never drank Coke in our house. We

1:00:48

were a pent-up house. Buy Coke today.

1:00:51

Unbelievable. Well, well, Johnny. That's wild.

1:00:53

I miss you. You

1:00:56

know what I also miss? The

1:00:58

delicious taste of

1:01:01

Doritos. Nanny loves Doritos. Sorry,

1:01:05

stop it. I

1:01:08

love Doritos so much. Oh

1:01:15

my God, I need to eat some Doritos. I

1:01:18

didn't know. When

1:01:21

you pop open the bag, there's a little sound

1:01:23

that plays. It's Nanny

1:01:25

being satisfied. Thanks,

1:01:28

Grandpa. Buy those Doritos. I

1:01:30

can finally rest. You've

1:01:33

made Nana happy. My

1:01:35

ghost is like munching loads of porn. Is

1:01:37

it? Fuck it out. Well,

1:01:40

if it knows your search history, it's

1:01:43

like Nanny loves her porn. Oh,

1:01:49

Johnny, start jerking off

1:01:51

to that bucakie again,

1:01:53

you know Granny loves

1:01:55

me. Oh, bucakie man.

1:02:01

So I was sort of thinking today

1:02:03

that my wife just casually started using

1:02:06

the word that's bu- just saying that's

1:02:08

bukake? When I was quite

1:02:10

impressed about it she was like horrified to find out

1:02:12

what it meant but she thought it just meant like

1:02:15

that's bullshit. That's bukake. What

1:02:18

a bunch of bukake that is. It's

1:02:20

a load of bukake. I

1:02:26

want to bring it back to the whole not

1:02:28

answering my phone thing and everything. I just want

1:02:30

to say that another- I have

1:02:32

a kindred spirit on this earth who is the

1:02:34

same and it's Bill Murray. Famously

1:02:37

never wants to talk to anybody. Doesn't answer

1:02:39

his phone. Yeah he's a nut as well. He

1:02:42

doesn't even have a PA. Do

1:02:44

you know what he has? An answering

1:02:46

machine. So anytime somebody asks

1:02:48

for his contact details he gives them

1:02:51

a number which is hooked up to

1:02:53

an answering machine. But then he

1:02:55

doesn't answer the answer machine. Two or three times a year he

1:02:58

goes and checks hundreds and hundreds of

1:03:00

messages on his answering machine skipping most

1:03:02

of them and that is

1:03:04

apparently how he lands rolls. Because he'll like

1:03:06

you know he'll hear from somebody he actually

1:03:09

wants to hear from and he'll

1:03:11

be like oh okay yeah I better phone them back or

1:03:13

whatever. It's weird. It's weird. I'm

1:03:16

sorry. I mean I read an article about Bill Murray

1:03:18

saying that whilst everybody loves Bill Murray and he's certainly

1:03:20

a fan favourite from Ghostbusters

1:03:22

to Groundhog Day to whatever you want

1:03:25

to mention. But he's

1:03:27

a deeply, deeply weird guy.

1:03:30

I mean for one thing apparently he just turns

1:03:32

up at people's barbecues and he's like he'll hang

1:03:34

out with strangers. He'll go to a bar and

1:03:36

if it's someone's birthday he'll like do the you

1:03:38

know just hang out with them. He

1:03:41

does that thing where he goes up behind people

1:03:43

and covers their eyes and when they turn around

1:03:45

he goes and they'll never believe you. But weird

1:03:47

stories about Bill Murray are that he is like

1:03:49

this social limpet who doesn't seem to have a

1:03:52

social life with friends and loved ones and family.

1:03:54

He just seems to spend his time ignoring people's

1:03:56

phone calls from what he's said, turning

1:03:58

up at strangers parties. and being

1:04:00

like, hey, it's me, Bill Murray, and immediately being

1:04:02

the focus of the entire evening. Yeah. That's weird.

1:04:05

That is weird behavior. It is kind of weird,

1:04:07

yeah, but... I mean, I think the dude smokes

1:04:09

a hell of a lot of weed, probably, and

1:04:11

just wants to be left alone and chill. That's

1:04:13

cool. I have no problem with that, but it

1:04:16

is weird behavior. Yeah. That's not normal, to ignore

1:04:18

phone calls from people. That is

1:04:20

weird. I know. It's kind of weird knowing

1:04:22

that somebody is phoning you to scam you

1:04:24

and then wanting to answer the phone to

1:04:26

them, just to see what happens as well.

1:04:28

I'd say that's also kind of weird. Because

1:04:30

sometimes it's not a scam. Sometimes it's not a

1:04:32

scam. No, sure, but... And it's like unrecognized number.

1:04:35

Yeah. And sometimes it's like my doctor, or the

1:04:37

school, or the council, or something. So I'm not

1:04:39

just going to not answer it. And if it's

1:04:41

a scam, I normally say to the guy, um,

1:04:43

could you take me off the list because I'm

1:04:45

never going to fall for it. Like, I recognize

1:04:47

it was a scam immediately, and sometimes they're like,

1:04:49

yeah, fair enough. Yeah. And even though they probably

1:04:51

not, you know, it's just this guy's stuck in

1:04:53

a fucking call center doing a shitty job. Let

1:04:55

me just read this little thing off of what

1:04:57

could be okay. Okay, so

1:05:00

obviously there's loads of like, um, sort

1:05:02

of accusations of him doing slightly pookey

1:05:04

stuff, right? And some of it's like

1:05:06

a little bit dodgy. Like this one

1:05:08

is, um, during COVID, he

1:05:10

was suspended on the production

1:05:12

of the movie Being Mortal,

1:05:14

which I've never even fucking heard of. No,

1:05:16

no, me neither. And it was later reported

1:05:19

that he had, while they were

1:05:21

wearing COVID masks, he had straddled a

1:05:23

female production assistant and kissed and or

1:05:25

rubbed her on the mouth, um,

1:05:27

while they were both wearing masks. She filed

1:05:29

a complaint and received a settlement of a

1:05:32

hundred thousand dollars. Jeez. But

1:05:35

also listen to this one, right? Seth

1:05:38

Green alleged that when

1:05:40

he was nine years old backstage on the

1:05:42

Saturday night live set, the film I picked

1:05:45

him up from a chair by his ankles

1:05:47

and dangled him over a garbage can. He

1:05:53

accidentally struck Murray in the testicles

1:05:55

causing greed to fall into the

1:05:57

garbage can. My God. It's

1:06:00

weird. It is weird. It's

1:06:02

weird. It's weird. I think he just...

1:06:04

I think he is just

1:06:06

a... he is an oddball for sure,

1:06:09

but I'm not saying I'm exactly like

1:06:11

Bill Murray. I'm just saying I

1:06:13

just don't... I just don't always answer my phone,

1:06:15

okay? I'm not a reactioner, phone answer. You

1:06:17

didn't say don't always. I'm

1:06:19

not dangling people over garbage cans and rubbing

1:06:21

lips through COVID masks with people or anything

1:06:23

like that. I'm not doing any of that

1:06:25

stuff. I would never accuse you of that.

1:06:27

I would never accuse you of that. Okay,

1:06:29

good. But you did downgrade from I never

1:06:31

answer my phone. They'll get in touch with

1:06:33

me if they really want to. No, it's

1:06:35

true though. I do never actually answer it.

1:06:38

I rarely answer my phone. There you go. That is

1:06:40

odd. No, I mean, I never get to answer an

1:06:42

unsolicited phone call. But if it's someone I know, I'm

1:06:44

not going to get off call. Yeah, of course. What

1:06:46

if you answer the phone from somebody you know and

1:06:49

it's not the person you know? That would

1:06:51

be crazy. That would be fucking crazy,

1:06:53

eh? Like, you're just like, oh,

1:06:55

hey, Bill, what's up? And it's like, this

1:06:57

is not Bill. What? I could have

1:07:00

gone. That would be so scary. No, that's

1:07:02

really bad. Yeah. That would be scary because it would be,

1:07:04

oh, God, what's happened to Bill? What's happened to Bill? Yeah.

1:07:07

But then if it was Bill Murray, it's

1:07:09

probably a prank, right? He's probably told somebody

1:07:11

to prank you. He'd leave

1:07:13

a message on your answer. He could see. He'd like

1:07:15

to even a pro-dock that guy so I could leave

1:07:17

a message for you. Bill, you scared

1:07:19

the crap out of me. I thought something happened to

1:07:21

you and I was crying and everything. And

1:07:23

then he just doesn't answer your calls and turns you

1:07:26

into a prank. He turns up to a stranger's birthday

1:07:28

party instead. Dangle the kid over

1:07:30

the garbage can. What else have you

1:07:32

got? One last piece of news. One last one. Oh,

1:07:35

I closed the... Okay, fine. Nevermind. No

1:07:38

more news. That's the end of Lewis' mail. What

1:07:40

is it? Lewis News. Lewis

1:07:42

News. It's Lewis News. Wow! Another

1:07:45

segment of Lewis News comes to

1:07:47

a close. Holy crap. Yeah, wow.

1:07:49

I hope you enjoyed it. And that's the end of

1:07:51

our podcast. That's it. That's all there is to it.

1:07:53

Sorry. I wish there was

1:07:55

more. Get that worm out of my brain. Get

1:07:58

the brain worms out. Yeah. Alright,

1:08:00

see you next week. Goodbye! Goodbye!

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