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from Lisa Charlie How can we

0:45

stop what I'm calling? Holier than

0:47

thou wars that are going on

0:49

social media since Trump came out with his stance

0:51

on abortion And what I heard

0:53

was a state's rights issue But he also

0:55

mentioned exceptions that are akin to Ronald Reagan's

0:58

exceptions now every pro-life

1:00

group is outraged some even saying

1:02

they're turning in their Republican card

1:04

a Candidate cannot make changes until he's

1:06

in office How do we appease these

1:08

groups all of whom I believe Trump will give

1:10

an audience to so he can affect real change

1:12

and get them Back on track, so

1:14

let's walk through this I have been

1:17

a recipient of many of the pro-life

1:19

leaders one Then they're wonderful people people

1:21

that are really upset right now Lila Rose

1:24

Kristen Hawkins, I don't want to speak for them how

1:26

upset they are but you know they've been saying some

1:28

things publicly and they're fired up and They're

1:31

fired up because they believe and they think based

1:33

on some of the things that Donald Trump has

1:35

said Is that he's betraying

1:37

his pro-life promises? I might be a little

1:40

charged in my vocabulary selection But he's turning

1:42

us back on some of the pro-life promises

1:44

and he's no longer a pro-life president So

1:47

there's a lot of things going on here right now

1:49

So first of which is you're right Donald Trump does

1:51

give an audience to pro-life groups And he was the

1:54

most pro-life president in modern American history He

1:56

Got Roe versus Wade Repealed Understand abortion

1:58

would not be a. Primary Topic

2:00

and any of our political list

2:02

or conversations outside of On the

2:05

Fringes. If he would not have

2:07

repealed Roe versus Wade, sending it

2:09

back to the states where it

2:11

is necessary. Now

2:13

you know my stance on abortion and One hundred

2:16

Percent Pro Life And I remain a hundred percent

2:18

Pro Life and your principles. And.

2:20

Your. Moral stance is must be very clear.

2:23

I hope one day that our politics

2:25

can be. In

2:27

alignment with would I think is the morally

2:29

correct stance on abortion. very similar to how

2:31

we abolish slavery and eating and. Asks

2:36

affect your Abolitionists of

2:38

Slavery. Not attacks

2:40

Trump for being inadequately. Anti

2:42

Slavery. I. Set

2:44

up this tweet and it was very well received

2:46

I think and there's some prolife leaders are touched

2:48

me but to their credit they weren't mad because

2:51

they know that it's true. And.

2:53

I see a both ways for prolife leaders

2:55

that. And I gotta give

2:57

Blake credit on the team. Blake has really

2:59

kind of hold the alarm on this. Prolife

3:02

leaders are afraid that the Republican party's

3:04

gonna become the republican party like in

3:06

Canada where there's no pro life movement.

3:08

Felix. That the pro

3:10

life position has no political home and

3:12

it just disappears into oblivion. I think

3:15

that's a legitimate concerns not necessarily from

3:17

from, but there are certainly forces in

3:19

the Republican party. That

3:21

wanna make this issue go away forever. They

3:24

don't care about prolife voters don't care about

3:26

the issue, they don't care about the unborn

3:28

for think that it's a legitimate concern. And

3:30

so when pro life leaders reach out to

3:32

me, I'm not angry. I could

3:34

not be more enthusiastic about the Pregnancy Crisis

3:37

Center cause I think they're doing the Lord's

3:39

work for years that we doesn't have one

3:41

hundred percent pro life. I've spent countless hours

3:43

defend the pro like this on campus and

3:46

of the media. All my fellow pro lifers

3:48

we must be passionate as well as to

3:50

and the choice simple. If you allow November

3:52

to become a referendum on abortion evidence suggests

3:55

or side will lose a more Babies will

3:57

Die. If we win in

3:59

November or people. The de claw back radical

4:01

pro Bush policies while we continue to persuade

4:03

more voters are the horror of horrors of

4:05

killing babies when and we can save lives

4:07

and lose and even more will die. Else

4:11

Now the the criticism some people would

4:13

say about that tweet is Charlie, you

4:15

are compromising your pro like position. I'm

4:17

really not. A Making a

4:19

statement rooted in political reality. Which.

4:22

Is without political power. How

4:25

are you going to advocate for the

4:27

unborn? It is legitimately incrementalism. And

4:30

I would ask for the whole life

4:32

warriors in California. How's that working

4:34

up for you? You're constantly

4:37

under attack. You're constantly

4:39

under seat. You're constantly

4:41

under assault. In

4:45

fact you have to california pretty general

4:47

going after pregnancy crisis centers and or

4:49

sense they will not stop. With just

4:51

people believing in pro life positions they

4:53

will try to lock down any organizations

4:56

that try to. Help a

4:58

woman's use life instead of abortion. At

5:01

the Federal level, the wins we

5:03

need to look for are very

5:06

simple: to defund abortions, stop having

5:08

the military enable them impose the

5:10

restrictions that we can. Morally.

5:13

The legitimize the proportion, cost or

5:15

not strong enough in numbers or

5:17

will just to impose a nationwide

5:20

ban on a country that rejects

5:22

it. A Madison

5:24

uncomfortable Truth. For

5:26

my incredible brethren! In

5:29

the Pro Life movement. Because.

5:31

Those who are pro life We see it so

5:34

clearly. With. We don't understand

5:36

how people could look at it any other way. And

5:40

therefore, there's a fair amount

5:42

of impatience. And.

5:45

Anger that sets in. Because.

5:48

Those are pro life say. Well.

5:50

If you're not with us, you're against us and

5:52

I won't move or compromise. And then as an

5:54

even a matter of compromising. The. Matter

5:57

of taking incremental wins towards a

5:59

greater goal and a greater purpose. I

6:01

will repeat what I said, which

6:03

is a very difficult truth, but

6:05

it's a necessary one. Our.

6:08

Movement is not just. Strong.

6:10

Enough to impose a nationwide and

6:13

on a country that currently rejects

6:15

it. We had a fight

6:17

for fifty years just overturn Roe versus Wade.

6:19

And we have remember the way we

6:22

fought in those times when banning abortion

6:24

was literally impossible and now it's banned

6:26

in fifteen states. That

6:28

would have been unsinkable. Ten

6:30

years ago. And said a

6:32

way that it looks it's gonna be just the kind of a

6:34

chart where we have a. Huge

6:37

win And then there's gonna be a little bit

6:39

of a regress and in a retreat. And then

6:41

they'll be a win. And the know, a retreat.

6:43

But the moving average. the trend is our friends.

6:47

Betray the pro life community and I don't

6:49

think Trump is doing that, but there are

6:52

certainly voices in from ears that are trying

6:54

to get him to do that. Why look

6:56

at what they got done? With.

6:59

Limited Resources Ltd. Money sixty

7:01

years of fervent prayer and

7:04

activism, launching a multi decade

7:06

legal strategy, Got

7:08

it done. We. Have

7:10

scored wins and there are children alive today.

7:12

Would not be alive today if it was

7:15

not for Dobbs and the heroic work for

7:17

pro lifers. But. We're not

7:19

on the brink of final victory

7:21

and we cannot act as though

7:23

we are. It's likely going to

7:25

take another fifty years. To.

7:27

Get to our and point. And that

7:29

will require. Cultural. Change.

7:32

Spiritual. Thing. Political.

7:35

Things. All. Three of those things.

7:38

And the bad guys that are

7:40

all on board. For. The

7:43

slaughter of the unborn. They're.

7:45

Playing office right now. And sometimes when

7:47

they play office we don't play very good defensive were going

7:50

up a whole lot of us a weekend. And

7:53

there will be a backlash. So. I

7:56

see it and a very balanced

7:58

perspective. As someone who's one

8:00

hundred pro life and I think and uniquely

8:02

positioned to do that because some individuals with

8:04

their head down the pro Life movement. Or

8:08

very foreign politics. And

8:10

some people that are very had down and

8:13

a political movements are very foreign to the

8:15

moral crusade of getting rid of abortion in

8:17

this country. I have a be both.

8:20

I happen to be both trying to

8:22

change hearts and minds of a cultural

8:24

ideological and spirits landscape or simultaneously trying

8:27

to increase political power for good causes.

8:30

Against you. For righteousness. The

8:33

Constitution for life, Liberty because it

8:35

happened. To both things could be

8:37

simultaneously true. So. What

8:39

what then needs? How do you the question least

8:41

as to the member thank you members that for

8:43

a week or.com how can we deal with the

8:45

holier than thou look for civil understand where they're

8:47

coming from because they actually are advocating for the

8:49

right thing. Secondly, As

8:52

a series of questions which I've been doing a week

8:54

which is. Do. You

8:56

think? I'm having

8:58

no political power like we do in

9:01

New York and California will advance the

9:03

prologue thought. Now their objection

9:05

is what charlie all you care about

9:07

is winning elections. Know it's not all

9:09

I care about but it is a

9:11

primary concern because winning elections just you

9:13

political power That that allows you to

9:15

a policies. That

9:18

is the that we have. But above all I

9:20

care about. Elections are a means

9:22

to the any political powers at the

9:24

end, and that is what differentiates us

9:26

from the left As marxists, A

9:29

Marxists look at power as the end.

9:32

Were rather uncomfortable as in political power.

9:34

We. Just don't want with feals dirty to was

9:37

it feels. To tell opinion. But

9:40

using political power for good and

9:42

righteous purposes. Is necessary.

9:46

The first step though is that the call them

9:49

holier than thou lisa fighters and we're coming from.

9:52

This is a score generation. It's and is the blood

9:54

being spilled. I think people

9:57

deserve grace if they're getting upset. However, i

9:59

think one them through a strategy

10:01

the same way we need a recasting

10:03

of a strategy for 50 years the

10:06

strategy was get rid of Roe versus

10:08

Wade we now need a recasting

10:10

without a vision that people perish and there

10:12

might be some movement perishing happening

10:14

what does that new 50-year strategy look like

10:16

I have some ideas so I want

10:18

to read a statement here and

10:21

then I want to just go to one of the

10:23

objections here that somebody has

10:26

so let's go

10:28

to this statement here Donald Trump has put on

10:30

truth social the Supreme Court in Arizona went too

10:32

far on their abortion ruling in acting and approving

10:35

an inappropriate law from 1864 so

10:38

now the governor and the Arizona legislature must use

10:40

heart common sense and act immediately to remedy what

10:42

has happened remember it is now up to the

10:44

states and the goodwill of those that represent the

10:47

people we must ideally have three exceptions for rape

10:49

incest and life of the mother this is important

10:51

Democrats are the extremists they support abortion up to

10:53

the moment of birth and even execution of babies

10:55

in some cases after birth there should not be

10:58

Arizona legislature please act as fast as possible so

11:00

the last part of the statement is excellent let's

11:02

start there president Trump is talking about how the

11:04

Democrats are the extremists that is absolutely right I

11:07

am I'm neutral on this particular

11:09

truth social post I understand why he's doing

11:11

it and let me defend it let

11:14

me let me think why he's say why

11:16

he's doing it it the current abortion decision

11:19

by the Supreme Court in Arizona was technically

11:21

legally the right decision it's one that I

11:23

morally agree with but it is

11:25

unpopular with the people in Arizona and Arizona is

11:27

a must win state so president

11:29

Trump is trying to float out the idea

11:31

that float out hey he

11:33

does not want to be tied to the unpopularity of

11:35

this current measure that is why he put that out

11:37

there however there is an email we got here from

11:40

John which is Charlie I'm not voting for Trump anymore

11:42

what is the point if Trump compromised

11:44

on abortion even if he has a

11:46

better chance of winning why not offer everyone free school health care

11:48

ubi that would help him win an election right

11:50

so based on what do you think whatever it takes to win compromise

11:53

when you can't govern Trump has abandoned a pro-life

11:55

cause who doesn't deserve my vote I have never

11:57

said you should do whatever it takes to win

12:00

I've never said that, I've never alluded to that. However,

12:04

you want to try to have the

12:06

most morally clear position that can fit

12:08

within the popular will of the people

12:10

so you can get political power. There

12:14

are positions that we hold that

12:17

are unfortunately untenable with the American people.

12:20

So you try to find one that is

12:22

the best version of that, and

12:24

then you try to find how can you make it fit with

12:26

the American people. That

12:29

is the whole idea of the will of the people

12:31

and the sovereign. And sometimes the

12:33

people, they don't want the morally

12:35

correct and clear position. So

12:38

do you completely betray or do you deeply

12:40

help beliefs that are rooted in scripture and

12:42

rooted in truth? Of course not. So

12:45

no, Trump is not pro-choice, and I think it's

12:47

kind of laughable if somebody were to say that.

12:49

This is a guy who put the justices on the

12:51

Supreme Court that got Roe overturned. He helped

12:54

defund parts of Planned Parenthood. He

12:57

is not. Just to say that is laughable. In fact,

13:00

I would say he's the most pro-life president in history.

13:02

He spoke at the March for Life first to do

13:04

so. You know who is pro-choice? George W. Bush was

13:07

pro-choice, like actually pro-choice. And

13:10

yet pro-lifers voted for him because

13:13

they saw other merits in

13:16

his presidency, even

13:19

though George W. Bush, especially his wife, were very,

13:21

very big pro-abortion advocates. He never spoke

13:23

at the March for Life. Okay,

13:26

let's get to another question here. Bill

13:28

from Arizona. Charlie, as a conservative heading

13:30

into my first year as a PhD

13:32

student at Harvard, surrounded by predominantly liberal

13:34

perspectives, what strategies do you recommend for

13:37

maintaining intellectual independence and fostering constructive dialogue

13:39

while staying true to my principles, all

13:41

without getting in trouble with my views?

13:43

That is definitely written by someone who's

13:45

getting a PhD. The best thing I

13:47

could say is you will be an

13:50

intellectual minority. Ask more

13:52

questions than you tell people statements. Try

13:54

to find weak spots in people's arguments, and that

13:56

will strong your arguments. And

13:59

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