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You know, look, I know

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that what you're doing comes from a very good place. And

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I know that in part just because I know you, but

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also you've really over

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the years pointed out

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the policy flaws that I think have left

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so many black Americans disenfranchised.

1:02

This new movie, and by the way, I say new, this is

1:04

actually a sequel to the original

1:07

Uncle Tom that you wrote, but

1:09

this is the second one. And

1:11

you get into some of these things. I mean, people

1:14

ought to know there was a lot of success, was

1:16

there not, within the African-American community

1:18

long before the war on poverty in the

1:20

1960s, in my estimation,

1:22

really destroyed so much of it.

1:25

Absolutely. And by the way, it's a collaborative

1:28

effort both these films. The director

1:30

is Justin Malone. He's absolutely brilliant. It

1:32

was scored by an amazing composer named

1:35

Damon Criswell and co-written by

1:37

the star, Chaddell Jackson, a guy

1:40

named writer Ansel and myself.

1:42

So it's a collaborative effort. But you're absolutely

1:44

right about the success of Black America. The

1:47

first one talks about post

1:49

slavery.

1:50

When you're talking about an environment with the

1:52

Klan, lynchings, Jim

1:54

Crow, still black people

1:57

kept moving forward.

1:58

Why? Basically four reasons.

2:01

Reliance on family. Even

2:03

during slavery, a black child was more likely

2:06

to be born under a roof as biological mother and

2:08

biological father than today. Reliance

2:11

on American values. You look at speeches by people

2:13

like Frederick Douglass and they're replete

2:15

with references to patriotism

2:18

and to American values, even though obviously

2:20

America was not living up to

2:22

those values when it came to black Americans. Entrepreneurship.

2:26

Booker T. Washington, who was born as a slave,

2:28

wrote a book called Up from Slavery in 1901, Trish.

2:32

That's just 36 years after slavery. And you

2:34

read the book, he's more optimistic about the future

2:36

of black America than people like

2:38

E.B.M.X. Kendi, the anti-racist and

2:40

black lives matter are today. And of course,

2:42

Judeo-Christian values, a belief in

2:45

hard work, a belief that God does not

2:47

give you a burden that you cannot fulfill. All

2:49

of that propelled black people forward. In 1940,

2:52

before all the civil rights legislation, mostly

2:55

before Brown versus Board of

2:56

Education,

2:58

87% of blacks live below the federally

3:00

defined level of poverty. 20 years later,

3:03

by 1960, that number had fallen to 47%. That's

3:07

a 40-point drop in 20 years,

3:09

the greatest 20-year period of economic expansion

3:11

in the history of black America. Why? Reliance

3:15

on family. In some instances, a black kid was

3:17

more likely to be born to a mother

3:19

and father married to each other than a white kid.

3:22

And again, reliance on American values, reliance

3:24

on entrepreneurship, and reliance on

3:27

God. You fast forward,

3:28

and this is where Uncle Tom, too, comes in.

3:30

You have organizations like Black Lives Matter,

3:33

whose co-founders are self-admitted

3:35

trained Marxists. Marx was an atheist

3:38

who wanted to dethrone God. And on

3:40

their website, they talked about the phony

3:42

construct of what they called the nuclear intact

3:44

family. And of course, Karl Marx

3:46

was opposed to private ownership of property,

3:49

therefore opposed to entrepreneurship and

3:51

Black Lives Matter is anything but hostile

3:53

to America and believes America is systemically

3:56

racist. So you have... Well,

3:57

somehow things went really, really off course.

4:00

I mean, the cynic in me

4:02

says it's about power, it's about politics

4:05

and self-interest. You

4:08

look at Black Lives Matter, and by the way, the financial success

4:11

of those people that are running it. That

4:14

tells you quite a bit. For some reason,

4:16

I think there's been this attraction to if we have big

4:18

government and we have politicians

4:20

in place that push that idea of big government,

4:23

you keep people down, they're not able frankly

4:25

to succeed enough themselves. kind

4:28

of a perverted undertone in my

4:30

estimation to all of it, Larry, your

4:32

take. Agreed. And it's about

4:34

power. It's about telling black people

4:36

that you are systemically victims, that

4:39

white people are systemically oppressors. And

4:41

by the way, we Democrats are the party of social

4:44

justice and pull that lever for us. The

4:46

Civil Rights Movement have gone from a righteous

4:48

movement for equal rights into

4:51

a non-righteous movement for equal

4:53

results and all sorts of other things have

4:55

nothing whatever to do with civil rights.

4:57

Whether it's abortion, whether it's critical race

4:59

theory, whether it's demand for reparations.

5:02

The civil rights movement has

5:03

been co-opted, if not kidnapped, by

5:05

a collection of Marxist, collectivist, income

5:07

redistributionists that are hurting the Black

5:10

community.

5:10

Larry, when you look at the numbers that

5:12

we recently got on the education front

5:15

and we learned that American students fell

5:17

so significantly behind during

5:20

those lockdowns and shutdowns

5:22

and schools that weren't in

5:24

action. What we also learned

5:27

was that so many students in very poor

5:29

areas, minority areas, areas

5:31

that were run by Democrats, they

5:34

fared much worse than the rest

5:36

of the country. Is there a takeaway

5:38

there that people should remember?

5:40

Absolutely. And again, you look

5:43

at a place like Baltimore. Baltimore

5:45

is where Freddie Gray died in police custody a few years

5:47

ago. The number one

5:49

and number two people running the police department

5:51

were black. The people who are in charge

5:54

of both the county and the city public schools

5:56

were black. The mayor black. Six

5:59

of the off- officers, three of the six officers who were charged

6:02

were black. The state attorney who blocked the charges

6:04

against the officers was black. A judge before

6:06

whom two of the officers tried their cases

6:08

was black. By the way, he found them not guilty. City

6:11

council, all Democrats, majority black.

6:13

The US attorney at the time, Loretta Lynch was

6:15

black. The president at the time was black, Barack

6:18

Obama. And we're talking about systemic racism.

6:20

I'm reminded of that joke that Wanda Sykes once

6:22

said, how are you going to complain about the man when

6:25

you are the man. And you're finding

6:27

this over and over again. And in Baltimore, 13, I'm

6:30

not making this up Trish, 13 public

6:32

high schools in Baltimore in the inner city, 0%

6:34

of the kids

6:36

are math proficient. And another half a dozen

6:38

where only 1% of the kids are math

6:41

proficient. That's almost half of all the public

6:43

high schools in Baltimore where either 0% of

6:45

the kids are math proficient or only 1% are.

6:48

This is absolutely horrific, horrific.

6:51

And we're spending more and more money, it's not the money, we're

6:54

spending more money than ever before, K through 12.

6:57

America spends more money than I think any of the other industrial

6:59

countries other than Luxembourg and

7:02

Switzerland. Outside of that, we're outspinning

7:04

everybody else and our results are near the bottom.

7:07

And those who are suffering the most, as you pointed out,

7:09

from the COVID lockdown of the very black and brown

7:11

people, the people on the left claim that

7:13

they care

7:13

about them. Yeah, no, I mean, they were the people that really,

7:16

frankly, were hurt.

7:17

worse than

7:19

anyone else and the policy is really destroyed.

7:22

So many of these communities, frankly for generations to come,

7:24

because we don't know what's going to happen to these kids that fell

7:27

so far behind. You only ask, I was talking to a guy

7:29

the other day with a zillion degrees

7:31

from Harvard, right? PhDs,

7:34

medical degrees, and MBA. You could

7:36

not have more degrees from Harvard than this gentleman

7:38

did. He grew up in Nigeria and

7:41

he said to me something that just struck

7:43

me. He said, you know, the smartest

7:45

black kids at Harvard, we're

7:47

all from Nigeria. He was making

7:49

the point that the American school system

7:52

was just so bad. He found it really

7:54

appalling and he said it was sort of, you know, he came from

7:56

nothing.

7:57

I guess there was maybe a better infrastructure.

8:00

in terms of school, I don't know, I mean, maybe more

8:02

family values. Is there a lesson

8:05

that Americans can learn from

8:07

other communities around the world when

8:10

it comes to making sure that we are producing

8:12

successful citizens?

8:15

Absolutely. It also shows you that it's

8:17

a lie that the SAT

8:19

is culturally biased. And

8:22

look at Asian Americans in

8:24

our own country. They also provide an example

8:27

of what happens when you embrace hard work and you

8:29

embrace education. And regarding Nigerian

8:32

Americans, their net worth per capita

8:34

is higher than net worth per capita of

8:36

white Americans. And so much for

8:38

this notion that America is systemically racist.

8:41

It's about hard work. It's about embracing the

8:43

values of hard work. You get out of life

8:46

what you put into it. And the formula

8:48

to lead poverty to get to the middle class is

8:50

pretty easy. The steps are pretty easy, if not

8:53

complicated to implement. And you have think

8:55

tanks on the left, like the Brookings Institution, and

8:57

think tanks on the right conservative, like the American

8:59

Enterprise Institute. And they say the same

9:01

thing. The first step is to finish high school.

9:04

One, presumably, where you can read, write,

9:06

and compute at grade level, which is why I support school choice.

9:09

Secondly, don't have a kid before you're 20 years old. Third,

9:11

get married before you have that kid. Number four,

9:13

get a job, keep that job, don't quit that job till

9:15

you get another job, even if it's a minimum wage job.

9:18

And finally, avoid the criminal justice system. You

9:20

do those things, you will not be

9:22

poor. You don't, there's a good chance you will be.

9:25

Yeah, we're talking to Larry

9:27

Elder, Wonderful gentlemen, I've

9:29

known many, many years. You all probably know him

9:31

because he ran for governor of California.

9:33

Well, wish you had gotten that one. California

9:36

wish you had gotten that one. Anyway, Larry

9:38

is out with a brand new movie. You

9:40

can download it right now, uncletom.com,

9:44

uncletom.com. There's a reason you

9:46

chose that name, isn't there?

9:48

Well, because one of the things, themes

9:50

in both of the movies is that people like

9:52

myself who bring the truth,

9:55

talk about hard work, who don't sit around

9:57

whining about how oppressed we are, are

9:59

derided

10:00

as Uncle Tom's, as was Booker T. Washington.

10:02

You know, the brilliance of the left is not

10:04

only have they convinced women to

10:07

marry the government and men

10:09

to abandon their financial more responsibility through the welfare

10:11

state, but anybody who calls them out is now

10:14

the bad guy. I'm an Uncle Tom. I'm

10:16

the black face of white supremacy. I'm

10:18

a bootlicker. I'm a coconut. I'm an Oreo.

10:21

That's how successful they are. They convince

10:23

you that you're a victim, somebody who's black comes along

10:26

and says you're not a victim and

10:28

I'm sinister. I'm the bad guy. That's how

10:30

maffteful the left's indoctrination

10:33

has been of black America. Well,

10:35

Larry, keep doing what you're doing. I think it's so important.

10:38

Self-empowerment, that's the key,

10:40

by the way. That's the key to everything. You tell

10:42

a child they can't succeed, they assume

10:44

they can't. If you tell them you got all

10:46

the ability in the world, it's up to you.

10:49

Well, you know, maybe it puts a little more pressure on

10:51

them, but it allows them to dream.

10:54

It allows them to move forward, and that's our country

10:56

to move forward.

10:57

Absolutely. One of the people in our film

11:00

is a pastor named Bodhi Bhaakam. And

11:02

he talks about the fact that people in 80, as we

11:04

speak, are lining up just for a chance,

11:06

just for a chance to get into America, an America

11:09

that black Americans consider to be systemically racist.

11:11

you