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0:59

Ava has been on Tucker Carlson's program.

1:01

She tells me 10 times,

1:04

which is quite remarkable. People, there are

1:07

people who would. Give

1:10

a bodily part to get on

1:12

Tucker's show and

1:14

all your bodily parts are still intact. I

1:17

think so. Yes. So yes, that's good. Yeah.

1:22

So Ava and I both spoke

1:24

for Charlie Kirk yesterday at the

1:27

Amfest is a magnificent event

1:30

for seven to

1:32

eight thousand young people in

1:35

Phoenix. So we reconnected and I

1:38

invited her to come back to L.A. She did.

1:41

And then she's headed back later

1:43

today to Holland and

1:45

her family for Christmas. She's

1:48

a political commentator and a very

1:51

powerful and courageous

1:53

voice. Holland,

1:56

folks, is It's

1:59

a remarkable. the country. When. I

2:01

think about it. It's

2:03

so small. And. It's

2:06

been so influential. Who.

2:09

A It's. A

2:13

Here here's one example today.

2:15

mattress historically after the United

2:17

States, the greatest exporter of

2:19

food in the world. Is

2:21

Health. Or. The Netherlands.

2:25

Me: How many people know that

2:27

and what is? Why?

2:30

I even know that I didn't

2:32

But I know that because your

2:34

government. Has. Wanted to

2:36

get rid of your farm

2:38

stats right? So tell everybody

2:40

about this because it A

2:42

borders are me unbelievable A

2:44

does border and the unbelievable

2:46

I. Mean if you think that

2:49

people have best in a good

2:51

intentions you know it doesn't make

2:53

any sense but our government clearly

2:56

does not have good intentions. The

2:58

the Dutch government has decided a

3:00

few years ago they we have

3:02

a so called nitrogen crisis Dennis

3:05

and. Down on I want to own

3:07

was similarly says nitrogen crisis And yes

3:09

it's sad that way that seriously that's

3:11

distinct from a carbon dioxide Krystal it

3:13

is ok go as yeah but it's

3:16

all of course under the banner of

3:18

climate change of Allow Rice they I

3:20

feel like they pick and choose. You

3:22

know whatever is easiest are most convenient

3:24

to them by yeah so they are.

3:27

They said that we have a nighters

3:29

in crisis and that's because cows. Just

3:31

like humans burp and forth and

3:33

that cause climate change according to

3:36

the Dutch government. and they said

3:38

that in order to solve this

3:40

nitrogen crisis, thirty percent of the.

3:42

Cattle farms needed to go

3:45

and conveniently. That mans at

3:47

the farmers had to sell their lands

3:49

to the states not free market by

3:52

to the state so that happened a

3:54

few years. Ago and thanks to the

3:56

we still have a little bit of

3:58

courage and our bones especially. Farmers

4:00

and they are. They weren't having

4:02

it so we've had protests going

4:04

on for. He. About three years

4:06

now, Really courageous farmers. You've gone out

4:09

in an almost untouched fashion and said,

4:11

nappanee. You know what? I'm not gonna

4:13

allow you to steal my land for

4:15

me. It's

4:19

actually. I. Report

4:21

on this. The. On. Of

4:25

secrecy absurdities of an obscenity

4:27

of the left. but this

4:29

is. Almost. The.

4:32

Most dramatic. Him.

4:34

Because what it means is

4:36

suicide for for your country.

4:39

Yes, Yeah I mean. Financially

4:41

it's you know, farming what I want

4:43

people to understand. Like you said, We

4:45

are a very small country. the Netherlands.

4:47

We were just sitting there in Phoenix,

4:50

Arizona. In Arizona is times the size

4:52

of the Netherlands of my into his

4:54

country or but we are the second

4:56

largest exporter of agricultural products in the

4:59

world. We are the largest exporter of

5:01

meat in the European Union. We are

5:03

a small country, but we're big and

5:06

one thing and that farming and that's

5:08

that's an historic fact as well. Modern

5:10

farming in the Netherlands started in a

5:12

fifteen hundred, so we are. Really, really

5:14

good at it. and the fact that our

5:17

government is now coming. After one of

5:19

our most profitable am a

5:21

starkly also important sectors of

5:23

our nation of the sector

5:25

that puts food on people's

5:27

played is beyond the law

5:29

etti as you have a

5:32

normal set of morals and

5:34

values and it's is beyond

5:36

it's beyond comprehension really. So.

5:42

If the I were to ask. Ministers

5:44

in your in your government to pour

5:47

for this. What

5:49

effect? Will. Closings

5:52

a third of your forearms

5:54

and not having animals to

5:56

to any longer have on.

5:59

Carbon. Dioxide I'd levels. On

6:01

planet Earth. What? Would

6:03

they answer? How they couldn't answer

6:05

right? So I mean probably because it wouldn't

6:08

have any A sack. The Nuts: I think

6:10

why they've gone with nitrogen rather than carbon.

6:13

And deal. And what's the problem with

6:15

nitrogen? What they're. Claiming his and and

6:17

so you have to understand. This is

6:19

A and it. This is a non

6:21

issue right? So I'll I'll tell your

6:23

audience right away. This is a non

6:25

existing crisis. It's a crisis that's been

6:27

manufactured by bureaucrats in Brussels and in

6:30

the. Hague in order to rob the

6:32

farm or that involve the farmers of

6:34

their land said I want. To get

6:36

that out the way first

6:39

of what they claim the

6:41

issue is is that the

6:43

nitrogen deposition causes certain plants

6:45

to grow in areas where

6:47

they don't want those. Plants.

6:49

To grow quite literally. A

6:51

What? What is the problem? Sort

6:53

Pot plants take the money grabbers

6:56

dioxide out of the atmosphere. Yeah,

6:58

No, sewn. Some unelected bureaucrats in

7:00

Brussels have decided. About movies at twenty

7:02

years ago or so that there are certain.

7:05

Areas in the Netherlands that are

7:07

classified as natural freezers and their

7:09

the vegetation cannot change or it's

7:11

bad for the soil at which

7:14

is nonsense you know because if

7:16

you think about it it's like

7:18

I said farming as as an

7:20

industry that's been around for centuries,

7:23

climate change is supposedly a new

7:25

problem, so why would you attribute.

7:27

A New Crisis quote unquote

7:29

to a procession. That's been around

7:31

for centuries on end. doesn't make any sense.

7:35

The other: it's reason for my silence.

7:37

I am trying to make sense of

7:39

it. so. What is

7:41

really amazing To me? Is

7:45

that? Because we're gonna

7:47

get to your most recent election which was

7:50

the earthquake yeah in the him in Europe

7:52

not trust in in in the Netherlands but.

7:56

What? Is frightening. Axis a

7:59

daughter. You The word amazing that's

8:01

not a good word was frightening to me. Is.

8:04

That. I. Assume

8:06

a half. Of. Your

8:08

solo countrymen. Are.

8:11

Okay with closing farms.

8:13

What day I think what are

8:16

establishment our government hopes and what

8:18

they have been using against people

8:20

is that they don't quite know

8:22

how to argue against it. So

8:24

they they. They trust that people.

8:26

Again, trust the experts, right? So

8:28

is. There is a group of

8:30

experts that claims that we have

8:32

a nitrogen crisis state into people's

8:35

humility. almost. and you know that

8:37

they'll think why? I don't know

8:39

if there's a nitrogen crisis. You

8:41

know enough. These experts claim that.

8:43

There is one then maybe something

8:45

should be done and. People

8:47

who don't know what nitrogen even is

8:49

or are you know what type of

8:51

issues nitrogen deposition could cause. Would then

8:54

prefer not to question the

8:56

authorities on it and and.

8:58

Take a sort of middle ground or

9:00

know like wow maybe expropriation of farmers

9:02

goes a little bit too far but

9:05

maybe we you know as close as

9:07

you because we don't want and climate

9:09

change and they believe that raid so

9:11

was this directive from Brussels or is

9:14

this or for autonomous. They are.

9:16

So I think that the European

9:18

Union, the government, the Dutch Government,

9:20

and even the court system all

9:22

play in cahoots here. So they

9:24

use. The Dutch government has used

9:26

a European. Regulation.

9:29

From twenty years ago to push

9:31

these nitrogen rules so that those

9:33

were the natural preserves that the

9:36

European Union had laid out and.

9:38

Than they said okay yeah we need

9:40

some first really to protect those those

9:43

areas and another climate it is. It's

9:45

a very complicated sorry but I have

9:47

another climate organization said the I'd Dutch

9:50

government you have to protect these these

9:52

areas and all of these I would

9:54

say politically motivated. Organizations all

9:56

work together to a

9:59

common. Go And I think that is

10:01

to get rid of our farmers and to have

10:03

a government. That can just

10:05

take away private property whenever it

10:07

it pleases, you know and and

10:09

does the agenda behind this. It's

10:11

an agenda control. It's not about.

10:13

Climate. It's about the government willingness

10:16

of people to be control. That's

10:18

what I said was. so the

10:20

there's been. I tell me if

10:22

this is overstating the case. There

10:24

has been a sort of revolution.

10:27

You're not overstating. know because we

10:29

had elections. About three weeks ago

10:31

and there was it. I

10:33

mean, the results were. First.

10:35

Of or unprecedented and completely unexpected.

10:38

We had D s the so

10:40

called and I'm I'm I'm I'm

10:42

saying so called Quote Unquote Far

10:44

right party. She's. Just at party.

10:47

That was right so far as you asked

10:49

me. A as a

10:51

nationalist, right wing party win

10:53

the elections. The Pvv. To

10:56

build our system and behind that party may be

10:58

or audience. Knows him as they

11:00

are. they one. One.

11:02

In four four people went out

11:04

to vote for this party and

11:06

never people who don't know the

11:08

Dutch political landscape. That's a lot

11:10

because we don't have a to

11:12

pretty system. we have the and

11:14

I scattered political landscape we his

11:16

twelve parties if I'm correct that

11:18

currently have seats in our parliament.

11:21

What What percentage of the vote for me

11:23

to get a player place in parliament? We

11:25

have a proportional system, you know, and what

11:27

is it? So it would be. You would

11:29

need about sixty thousand people to vote for

11:31

you. And then you have one

11:33

seat. and final, what percentage of of the

11:36

voting population? That it does

11:38

it. I saw it's done by percentage, right?

11:40

Well, so we speak. We oftentimes speak and

11:42

seats and my masses. terrible dentists. Are you

11:44

putting me on the spot here? But our

11:46

our our second chamber so that's the most

11:48

important. As they have

11:50

one hundred and fifty seats and

11:53

haired builders just got thirty seven

11:55

which is a way more than

11:57

any establishment party. ever

12:00

But is it more than any other

12:02

party in this election? Yes, and

12:04

by a large margin. So the VVD, let's

12:07

say the neoliberal globalist party that

12:09

has been in power for the past ten years,

12:12

30 actually, the Prime Minister

12:14

Margaret has been for the past ten years, they

12:17

are the ones behind all of the attacks

12:19

on our farmers, for example. They're the

12:21

ones behind the open border policies. They

12:23

are the ones behind giving up our

12:25

sovereignty to the European Union. They

12:27

have gone down to 23 seats and

12:30

they were the second largest party. So, 37, 23? Yes.

12:33

That's a landslide. It is a landslide. I

12:36

cannot stress enough how mind-blowing

12:38

it was for us to see this result.

12:41

No one saw it coming. Including

12:44

you? Including me, because the polls didn't at

12:46

all predict

12:48

this. And the PVV, that's what

12:51

you have to understand, Dennis, is a party that's

12:53

been demonized for the past 20 years to a

12:55

degree that you wouldn't believe, you know? Similar

12:58

to what has happened here. Oh, of course.

13:00

Fascists, Nazis. Yes, fascists, Nazis. Right.

13:03

Cared Wilders even has been

13:05

prosecuted and convicted by the

13:08

Dutch court system for his

13:10

political views, because

13:12

he was too critical. That sounds like a here.

13:14

It's exactly, that's what they do. Right. He's

13:17

too critical of Islam. He's too critical of mass

13:19

migration. And he got convicted, so the fact that

13:21

this man won. He was convicted of being too

13:23

critical of Christianity. Has it happened

13:25

in the Western world the last half century? It

13:27

hasn't happened yet. I do know of this story. I don't

13:29

know if you heard that of this Finnish member

13:32

of parliament who was trialed for

13:34

quoting a Bible verse. Yes.

13:37

I think I reported it here. Yeah. Well,

13:42

was it on homosexuality? Or

13:44

was it on men? God created men and women.

13:46

I think it was just that. Yeah. God,

13:48

yeah. That's bad enough. That's

13:51

right. Yeah. So

13:53

by the way, folks, we would say, Gerd, it's a

13:55

G. They say hurt. So I want you to know,

13:57

though, many of you heard of Wilders. Didn't

14:00

we have him at a PragerU? I

14:03

know that I was on a program with

14:05

him. Maybe it wasn't PragerU. Okay, I know

14:07

that we've been together. That

14:10

man is courage. I mean, under the

14:12

word courage is a picture of that

14:14

man. Is that fair to say? Yes.

14:16

Cared Builders has a lot of skin

14:18

in the game. He is somebody who

14:20

has walked the walk and talked the

14:22

talk both. And his criticism

14:25

of especially Islam has landed

14:27

him a few fatwas against

14:29

him. So he cannot

14:32

go anywhere without security.

14:34

24-7, the man cannot go grab a coffee

14:36

by himself. And this has been the case

14:39

for the past 20 years or so. And

14:41

so the fact that he now... Does

14:44

any critic of Christianity need bodyguards?

14:46

Why isn't that, my friends, sort

14:49

of a dispositive statement about the

14:52

current state of religions in the world?

14:54

Right. You think, huh? You think.

14:56

So Cared Builders has had threats

14:58

from radical is amiss. And he's been...

15:00

A lot of people get in touch with you. They

15:03

can follow me, especially on Twitter, or

15:05

now X, right? So that would be at Ava.

15:08

Far. Oh,

15:10

you didn't bother with the whole name. No. Right,

15:12

so V-L-A-A-R. I

15:14

figured we'll keep it short, nicely short. And I need

15:17

to get married. We spoke about that, but it would

15:19

be good to get rid of that last name. You're

15:21

speaking to the right guy. I'm

15:24

trying to get everybody married. Ava,

15:27

you're terrific. Thank you. Thank

15:29

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