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This is a Headgum Podcast.

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This is Emily, Henley, and Sami,

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and you're listening to Too Scary,

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Didn't Watch. Hi

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everyone. Welcome to Too Scary, Didn't Watch,

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the horror movie recap podcast for those too

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scared to watch themselves. I'm Henley and

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I am too scared to watch scary movies. I'm

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Sami and I love watching scary movies and so

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I watch them so that you don't have to.

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We have a batshit crazy one for

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you today. I can't wait to get

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into it.

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Henley also want to compliment you on that

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intro. You did an amazing job. Ah,

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Sami. Sami, we don't

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have to acknowledge it every single time, but

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man, man, it stresses me out. I

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just, I had to acknowledge it because he did it so flawlessly.

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It is, you know, after four years

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of weekly listening to that intro,

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you would think, you would think I

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wouldn't even bat an eye, but it's just too

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much, it's too much pressure. Yeah. Well,

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you nailed it. You know,

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thanks. I appreciate it. Did

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anything scary happen to you this week? Do

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you want me to go first?

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I can go first. Okay. You

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go first. I thought of something. So, so,

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so we're good. No, I,

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as listeners may know, just returned from

1:27

a couple of weeks in Europe and

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I think the scary thing is just

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how dumb it feels to be American elsewhere.

1:35

So, so dumb. Everybody speaks one

1:37

million languages and like knows

1:39

history of all different countries, not

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just American history, not just American politics.

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I like felt so stupid constantly

1:47

and was just like, wow, imagine

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being educated in another country,

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how that would have, how that might've

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been. Mm-hmm.

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I'm very jealous of all these people who are like, yeah,

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of course I know. Like our

1:59

Nick his wife Carla who knows Polish,

2:02

Catalan, Spanish, French and English.

2:04

Yeah. Casually. It's like

2:06

she grew up speaking those languages. Like, of course,

2:09

all of her friends did.

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Her dad's also Polish, so that helps. But

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I'm like, I know English

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and I know it

2:17

poorly. Yeah. I don't even know it very well. Rocky.

2:19

Rocky. I'm learning

2:22

Spanish. Last time I went, I have

2:24

family in the Netherlands and they speak

2:26

Dutch, Afrikaans and English

2:29

and they were asking me if I speak Afrikaans

2:31

because I was born in South Africa, but I did not

2:34

grow up there. And I do not speak Afrikaans,

2:37

but I was ashamed to admit that.

2:39

No, I don't. And they were like, oh,

2:41

right. You're in California. So you obviously speak Spanish.

2:44

And I was like, yeah, you would think you would

2:46

think that

2:46

that would be true. But

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unfortunately, it is not.

2:52

Do you think it's it getting hot in here or? Caliente.

2:59

But

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I had a great time and I missed

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you guys a lot and I'm

3:08

happy to be back. We miss you

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so, so, so much. And I feel

3:13

like there's a chance you might be moving to Europe

3:16

and that means that we would be in three different

3:18

time zones. That could be touching

3:21

really tricky. Really

3:23

tricky. But we'll we'll make it

3:25

work. No matter what anything for the pod, anything

3:29

for the pod. What

3:31

about you, Henley? I

3:33

don't know. I mean, I feel like I'm just

3:35

going to talk about the same thing every week, which is my

3:38

slow, slow, like dissolving

3:41

the evolution into a suburban

3:44

mom housewife

3:45

because I think that's where

3:48

it's terrifying. Honestly, I was

3:51

getting drinks with some of our friends

3:53

last night, Henley, and they were like, is Henley okay?

3:55

Like everything about her life seems really scary right

3:57

now for those who don't know. Henley recently

3:59

moved to. So, Gritish Connecticut, her

4:01

husband's a priest, she's a priest, so I have to say, once

4:03

pregnant, her teeth are loose, she's doing it in his

4:05

line. A

4:08

lot going on. Okay,

4:10

okay, I have so many things to add to

4:12

that. They

4:16

might not sound important to you, but they're important to me,

4:18

which is, yesterday,

4:21

this is huge,

4:23

got a Costco membership. Oh

4:25

my god, yes. Never had

4:27

one in my life. My

4:30

two-year-old, having full meltdown in the Costco

4:32

membership line, not a fan. Not

4:35

a fan of having to wait in this Costco. The

4:37

man was very nice, we had to take pictures for a membership

4:40

card. He was like, you can keep holding him, it's

4:42

fine. So, I have a picture, it's

4:44

me and Silas, my two-year-old, mugging

4:47

it for the camera, with like a full JCPenney

4:50

ad on the

4:52

back of our executive member Costco

4:54

card. Ooh! And I was

4:57

like, this is it, you know? Yeah. I

5:00

know it's like an exciting day, but it's also

5:02

like a small death happened, I think. Small

5:05

death. Small

5:07

death. Doors are closing

5:10

fast behind me. So

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I get used to this lifestyle.

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I feel like there are other things I wanted to tell you about

5:18

living in the suburbs. Oh, well, we

5:21

drove to get Tim's dry cleaning, which

5:23

felt very suburban

5:25

to me. Driving just to get pickup

5:27

dry cleaning was crazy.

5:30

Also, I still don't have a name

5:33

for this baby. And

5:35

she's gonna be here like in the next

5:36

couple weeks. I

5:39

do not know what her name is. I have

5:41

no idea. Maybe she can name herself. You

5:45

just wait a little longer. That will

5:47

take a while though, you know? I don't think we can

5:49

hold out that long. I think I

5:51

had had this stroke of genius, which

5:53

is that we just let the listeners decide. Oh

5:56

my god, yeah, we just

5:57

do a poll. We just do a poll.

5:59

You guys can't do this. No, we gotta

6:02

make a really high Patreon level.

6:04

A hundred dollar tier

6:07

name Henley's baby. Only a hundred

6:09

dollars. A hundred dollars. A hundred

6:11

dollars. That's

6:14

it. That's it. And

6:16

we'll take anything. No, I just

6:17

have been having a lot of trouble with female

6:20

names. I don't know. Picking a boy

6:22

name was a lot easier for some reason. Picking

6:25

a female name and

6:27

having strong associations

6:30

with every single name that crosses

6:34

my plane. Like every single one. I'm like,

6:36

oh, I knew a girl. So my soccer team second

6:38

grade didn't like her very

6:41

much. I don't think I can do it. So

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we'll see. I don't know. I don't know what our name is going to be. Listeners

6:46

TBD. Sound off in the comments.

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That would be pretty funny if I did. We

6:53

can do that instead of doing like a Halloween spooky

6:55

movie poll. We can do a name

6:57

Henley's baby poll. Well, you know,

6:59

I like a name that can be a boy's name or a

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girl's name. And we happen to have one of those

7:03

names in today's movie.

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So maybe you find a

7:08

a name idea

7:10

right here live on the pot. And

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for the rest of this child's life, they can say

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I was named after the Wicker Man. That's right.

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Because that is the movie, the Wicker

7:20

Man, the 2006 one, the

7:23

Nicholas Cage one,

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written and directed by Neil Le Butte, based

7:28

on the 1973 screenplay by Anthony Shafer, starring

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Nicholas Cage, Ellen Burstyn, Kate

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Behan, Francis Conroy and

7:37

Lely Sobieski. What is she

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up to these days? Haven't seen her in a long

7:42

time. I forgot about her. I love her.

7:44

So did I. She's great. It's available

7:46

to rent for $2.99. And we have two

7:48

guests with us today from

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fellow Head Gum podcast sitcom

7:54

D&D. It is Waleed Mansoor

7:56

and Elizabeth Andrews. Welcome

7:59

to the pod.

8:00

Thank you for having us. Also available to

8:02

run for $2.99. Oh yeah. Me

8:05

and Elizabeth. Yeah, get on that Patreon here.

8:07

Rent them. Oh

8:10

yeah. We were just like vigorously

8:13

nodding in agreement to everything you guys

8:15

are saying. Just like, just, we

8:17

were just like, yes, yes. I feel

8:19

like I have a thousand things to respond to just in those

8:21

five minutes of chat. Like I just got a casket

8:23

membership on Tuesday. Oh my god. And

8:26

I took the picture. I had my baby there

8:28

with me. I'm so

8:30

in the same boat. Did you get Abe in there?

8:33

Abe's not in the pic. Abe's not in the pic,

8:35

but it's okay because I lost my membership card

8:37

immediately.

8:39

I was so close. I thought that I lost my

8:41

husband and I thought we lost

8:43

both of them after waiting in line

8:45

and they were in like one of the bags. It was fine.

8:48

But I was like, we just spent like 45 minutes

8:50

doing that. We're going to have to do it all over again.

8:53

Yeah, I got the apps. I think I'm okay.

8:56

Okay, great. Look at you being a digital

8:58

native.

8:59

I am a cold person. I'm

9:01

elderly and I'm living

9:03

in an analog world. So

9:05

I know that I could probably have done this online,

9:08

but okay, that's thrilling.

9:10

I'm excited that we're both Costco

9:13

members now.

9:14

Man, formula went from paying $45 to $25. Oh,

9:17

hell yeah. Y'all got to get the cops

9:19

go. That's what I paid for itself. It really does. I

9:22

think you have a baby. Sammy, do you

9:24

have a Costco card? I do not. I do

9:26

not. Okay. Okay. Just need to

9:28

make sure we had.

9:28

I think it comes with a baby for a lot

9:31

of things.

9:32

True. Well, other than

9:34

the small deaths of joining Costco,

9:38

the victory and small death of joining Costco, did

9:40

anything scary happen to you guys this week?

9:43

You know, you asked me this question earlier this week and

9:46

the first thing that came up is my baby is

9:48

now rolling and I watched

9:50

him. I was right there at the

9:52

edge of the bed, but I did watch him roll off

9:54

the bed as I caught him. And I was like, Oh no,

9:57

this is officially, this is

9:59

officially. He can no longer be in a

10:01

high place not buckled up. That

10:04

was like a big scary thing. So that was the first thing

10:06

that came up. But then yesterday I will say,

10:08

wasn't that scary? But I did go to a wedding

10:10

at the Houdini estate. Wow.

10:14

Yeah, lots of statues and photos

10:16

and images of Harry Houdini all over

10:18

the place. Was

10:19

there a magic show at the wedding, I hope? Oh,

10:21

no.

10:22

You would think. I've

10:24

been to a wedding

10:25

with a magic show and it wasn't at the Houdini estate. Have you really?

10:28

They didn't cut the bride in half. They

10:30

cut her dad in half. Her dad!

10:33

It was so funny.

10:34

I'm really

10:36

disappointed to hear they didn't do that at the Houdini

10:38

estate wedding. Yeah, it

10:39

was gorgeous. It was wonderful. It was gorgeous.

10:42

But yeah, there was a surprising

10:44

lack of magic going on besides love and

10:46

all that. Yes, the true magic.

10:48

Love is magical.

10:49

The true magic.

10:53

I

10:56

did not go to Europe or expecting

10:58

a child. But I did scare myself. I

11:03

ate two... This

11:07

is TMI to meet you guys. No,

11:09

I don't know. This is my truth. This is just my

11:11

truth. I'm not really curious about what this is. Henley,

11:15

Sammy, Wooly. He won't be surprised

11:17

by this. I ate too

11:19

many flaming hot cheetos

11:21

one night. An easy

11:23

mistake to make. I forgot

11:25

that I did that. And

11:28

woke up the next day and I was like, oh

11:30

no, I'm dying. When

11:33

I went to the bathroom, I thought it was

11:35

blood. I

11:37

thought it was blood. And I was like,

11:40

I'm dying. And

11:42

then I was like, oh yeah, my dumb

11:44

ass. Weightless you

11:46

cried. Way too many of those last night. How

11:48

many is too many? Like

11:52

is it like a full

11:52

bag? Medically, the FDA says

11:54

five. I just don't know.

11:59

I like ate a bunch and then I was like, I'm

12:02

full. And then I ate more than that.

12:04

Like I was like, oh, well I filled a bowl

12:06

to the top. And it was like near the

12:09

end. I

12:11

was like, well, I can't throw these away

12:13

or put them back and I just have to eat them. So it

12:15

was like just putting myself in a painful

12:18

situation. Have they

12:20

done medical studies about this? Because I

12:22

have heard so many people about being

12:24

addicted to Flamin Hot Cheetos.

12:27

Yeah, there's pretty sure there's

12:29

an addictive element. There's

12:32

something with the spice. Yeah, there's something in there.

12:34

Yeah.

12:34

There's absolutely something. That Cheetah.

12:36

That Cheetah does. It's the Cheetah. What's

12:38

his name? Is his name Sam? Oh, Chester.

12:41

That makes more sense than Sam.

12:44

Is it my name? Is

12:46

it my name? Maybe we'll leave.

12:49

Who knows? That's the only name I can think of.

12:51

Henry, have you thought of naming your baby Sammy?

12:54

The Cheetah. It would be really

12:56

funny. We

12:58

always circle back to how funny it would be if I named

13:01

my child after one of my friends and

13:03

didn't think it was weird and didn't mention it. I

13:05

was like, yeah, I'm Sammy. You're

13:08

going to say something without telling me. That happens

13:10

in The Fast and the Furious. Does it really? Oh

13:12

my god, that does. Yeah, because

13:14

Paul Walker passed away in real life, obviously.

13:17

But his character does not die in

13:19

the movies. And

13:22

they do Vin Diesel does name his son

13:24

Brian. Paul Walker's character. That's

13:26

right. Whoa. Who's a

13:28

friend who's alive? Who in the movie is alive? Yeah. Just

13:32

say like, go on vacation

13:34

or something. He's kind of a stay home dad. Stay home dad.

13:36

He sits out all the missions and

13:38

stuff. Yeah. Yeah.

13:41

What an odd choice. It's a really

13:44

strange choice. It's a really, really

13:46

strange choice. And they constantly have

13:48

to keep justifying it. And

13:51

it's wonderful. And it's

13:53

the best series of all time. Love

13:55

those movies.

13:57

But what are you guys' feelings about horror

13:59

movies?

13:59

in general. Okay.

14:03

Oh, do you want to start off?

14:05

Yeah, I mean, I, in general, I find

14:08

them funny.

14:10

Like I'm more of a, especially

14:13

this movie we're about to talk about

14:15

is objectively pretty funny. Yeah. This

14:18

one I was like watching, I was like halfway

14:20

through, I was like, this is a comic.

14:25

But normally, like, yeah, if it's like really

14:28

scary, I just, I don't know, I my

14:30

brain can just be like, Oh,

14:33

how funny that they spent time

14:35

making that and then doing this

14:37

like, and

14:38

like, I don't know, my brain goes there. Yeah. But

14:41

I do, I will say I don't,

14:45

I don't mess with ghosts. Because

14:48

I think I'm vulnerable to spirits.

14:51

I don't know why, can't

14:53

really explain that. But

14:56

one time I went to just

14:59

a quick, I went to the the

15:01

Shining Hotel in Colorado,

15:04

one spooky place, spooky

15:06

place, went back to

15:08

the place I was staying slept that night with

15:10

a friend in my bed. And apparently I screamed

15:13

in my sleep.

15:13

I was like screaming

15:15

in my sleep. And she woke me up and she was like,

15:17

it was like you were screaming from your soul.

15:19

And I

15:22

was like, did I just get possessed?

15:25

And then so scary for her to

15:27

like, she was so cool

15:29

about it. She rolled over what back to sleep?

15:31

Not cool about it. No, no,

15:34

no, no,

15:34

I laid their eyes open like I'm

15:37

possessed.

15:37

And how am I going to be friends with

15:39

my friends? And how am I gonna be with my family?

15:41

So that's why I'm scared of ghost,

15:44

ghost stuff. I also get scared of ghost stuff.

15:46

And it's because I can't, it's

15:48

Henley's the opposite. She's like not scared of ghosts

15:50

and only scared of human men.

15:53

You're a pastor

15:55

of life. So you're protected. I'm like, I

15:57

have bars on my windows. Man can't get in

15:59

here. but a ghost, a

16:02

ghost could get

16:03

in here. So I'm with you. I can't afford to be scared

16:04

of ghosts.

16:11

I think that that

16:13

would just be too much on my place.

16:16

Yeah, there's so

16:18

many ghosts there, more than almost anywhere.

16:20

This house

16:21

that we're living in was built in 1862. I

16:23

cannot

16:28

afford to be up with a newborn. I'm talking Civil

16:30

War. No, I know. I know. And Civil

16:33

War was like fucked up.

16:36

Like really fucked up. That's where most

16:38

ghosts come from, I think. Civil War.

16:40

Unfortunately,

16:44

yes. So we're just trying to be

16:46

friendly, you know. We're treading lightly every

16:49

day. That's wonderful.

16:51

Wally, how do you feel about horror movies? This

16:55

has been a

16:56

new thing in my life where I grew

16:59

up not watching scary movies at all.

17:02

And for a while, I think

17:05

that I thought I didn't like scary movies. Because

17:08

my parents didn't watch scary movies. My sisters

17:10

didn't watch scary movies. I didn't really watch scary movies

17:12

at all. And then more recently,

17:15

I've been watching some and I'm like, wait, these are

17:17

wonderful. And I actually love them. Why

17:20

did I not? I think it's just a map. It's just because

17:22

I didn't watch them as a kid. So I feel

17:24

like I'm learning that I actually do really, really like them.

17:26

Like the first time I saw any of the Jordan

17:29

Peele movies, or when I saw Midsummer

17:31

for the first time, I was really blown

17:33

away. And this, this

17:35

movie definitely has some Midsummer vibes. But yeah,

17:37

so I now I love them and I'm trying to seek them

17:45

out more. And the only difficulty that I have is I

17:47

feel like I want to watch them with people for

17:50

the most part, I prefer to have somebody with

17:52

me not because I'm scared, but I think they're just an elevator

17:55

to share. Absolutely. But my wife doesn't

17:56

like scary

17:59

And she is the person with

18:02

whom I watch the most movies. So yeah,

18:05

yeah, I gotta come on over. I

18:08

gotta come on over. We wanted to watch

18:10

this movie together, but we, our

18:12

schedules didn't line up, but there were so

18:14

many moments in it

18:15

that made me think of the lead. So

18:18

I decided to talk about it for sure. I

18:20

was pretty blown away. I

18:23

also, in terms of this movie, one

18:25

of my big

18:28

hobbies in life is watching bad movies.

18:30

And so when I Rotten Tomatoes in

18:33

this movie, I thought that was about 15%, and I

18:35

was so overjoyed. Overjoyed.

18:37

15% on Rotten Tomatoes. Incredible.

18:41

Yeah, and accurately so. Yeah, I'll

18:43

tell you some stats. Yeah, 15% Rotten

18:46

Tomatoes, 36% on Metacritic,

18:48

which it's unusual that Metacritic

18:51

is higher than Rotten Tomatoes. And it happens

18:53

when everyone agrees that the movie is bad,

18:56

and just like varying degrees of badness.

18:59

So Rotten Tomatoes is low because it's like, yeah, we all agree it's a bad movie.

19:01

But then Metacritic is like, how bad is it? 3.8 on

19:05

IMDB. So kind of a similar rating

19:08

there. I gave it two and

19:09

a half stars on Letterbox. That's a 50%. I

19:11

rated it higher. Because

19:14

I

19:14

had a really good time, I enjoyed myself.

19:17

And you love Nicolas Cage. I love Nicolas

19:20

Cage. I think there's a lot to enjoy

19:22

about this movie. And

19:24

so I gave it. Is this

19:26

the

19:26

first time watch for you, Sandy? It was

19:27

the first time watch. And I watched the

19:29

original And This back to back, which

19:32

was a fun experience

19:35

seeing the quality differences. Yeah.

19:39

But some of it is literally the same line, same dialogue.

19:45

They just lifted the

19:47

script and then

19:49

changed things and somehow made it much,

19:52

much worse. In place. Wait for

19:54

real?

19:55

They use the same like... Yeah, there

19:57

are scenes that are

19:58

word for word the same. Which

20:00

I was pretty surprised by. Oh my god. Now

20:02

I gotta go watch the original. I know, I know.

20:05

I'm running. I'm running after this recording. What

20:07

is the original from? 1973. Stars Christopher

20:09

Lee.

20:14

The budget for this movie was $40 million. It made $38.8 million.

20:19

Oh, it's so close. Real close. So close. So

20:21

close. And

20:24

some trivia for us. Robin

20:27

Hardy, who is the writer or

20:29

director rather of the original, had

20:31

his name removed from this film's credit.

20:34

He did not

20:35

wish to be associated with it. Yikes,

20:38

that's bad. I thought this was funny

20:40

when Nona Ryder was offered a role and

20:43

she turned it down because she hated the

20:45

script. Yeah, yeah.

20:47

It's like that reason is thrown

20:49

in there. Yeah, yep. So you're telling

20:52

me in the original, a man

20:54

goes to an island filled with women and yells at them?

20:56

It's just like the

20:59

women part is just

21:02

in this

21:02

movie.

21:04

That's because I feel like the original

21:06

is kind of focused more on him being a

21:09

religious guy and them being

21:11

pagan and like that is the main

21:13

conflicts that he's having and they changed

21:16

in this movie to it being this like sort

21:18

of matriarchal society. Yeah, he goes

21:20

Nicholas Cage. I don't want to spoil,

21:27

but he goes straight to this island that's filled

21:29

with women and he's just explosively.

21:30

Out

21:37

of nowhere for no reason.

21:38

He's standing so close to everybody. I

21:40

would like to

21:43

know like, I would like to see a list

21:45

of

21:45

Rotten Tomato rankings for Nicholas Cage

21:47

movies.

21:48

Like is it? I believe you can go

21:50

to Rotten Tomatoes and just click on Nicholas Cage

21:52

and I think you can get exactly that. Yeah.

21:54

I mean, is it all pretty? Well,

21:57

I feel like I doubt this is, um, excuse

21:59

me.

21:59

Henry Henley, he's in some great movies.

22:01

Yeah. He's won an Oscar. National

22:04

Treasure. National Treasure. National Treasure,

22:06

for example. We all yelled National Treasure. National Treasure,

22:08

Henley. What did he win an Oscar for? What? The

22:11

Vampires. The Vegas. The Vegas

22:13

one. I wish Vampires. Ghost Rider.

22:16

Please, Ghost Rider. Shoot. I'm

22:18

looking up now. Ghost Rider 2. Embarrassing

22:21

that I don't. Is it Wild?

22:23

No, not Wild at Heart.

22:26

What's the Vegas one? I mean, he's in Vegas.

22:29

He drinks a lot.

22:30

I don't know. I have no idea. I

22:32

keep wanting to say Fear Unloading, but that's not what it

22:34

is. Yeah, that's the only Vegas. Yeah, Nicholas King. I

22:37

mean, he's great in like, Raising Arizona. I

22:39

mean, I bet your face-off has a surprisingly

22:42

high Rontorena score. Like, Con Air. My

22:44

guess is those have like, over 80% on Rontorena.

22:47

Leaving Las Vegas. It's called Leaving Las Vegas. Leaving Las

22:49

Vegas. Yes. There it

22:51

is. Okay. There

22:53

it is. This movie was nominated for five Razzies.

22:56

Hell yeah.

22:56

Didn't win any of them.

22:59

Basic Instinct 2 really

23:02

cleaned up that year. Oh

23:04

my God, they made a sequel to Basic Instinct.

23:10

I guess so. She crosses her legs

23:12

the other way. The other way.

23:15

That's perfect, Willy. Recently

23:18

watched that, and it was very good. And

23:21

the scene where she crosses and uncrosses her legs

23:23

is actually genuinely shocking.

23:25

Because I wasn't part of

23:28

a horror.

23:29

Whoa. And like, kind of a crime, right? Because

23:31

I don't think she agreed to that. I didn't

23:33

think she knew that that was in the

23:35

frame. She did not know. Which is very fucked

23:37

up. No, guys. Guys. Full

23:40

crime. A full crime. A

23:42

full crime. That's a full crime. Yeah.

23:45

The pig has 97% on Rotten Tomatoes, just

23:47

so everybody knows pig. Highest rated film.

23:49

Oh, pig. I fucking

23:52

love pig. I've never seen that. The pig

23:54

is

23:54

unreal. I love pig.

23:56

Damn. This one's not even close

23:59

to his lowest.

23:59

rated movie Deadfall, 0%, A

24:02

Thousand Words, 0%, never mind that one. A

24:05

Thousand Words. Arsenal, 3%,

24:08

yeah we got some single

24:10

digits and some zeros in here so. I truly,

24:13

I could, I like any other man yelling

24:15

at all these women I'd be like ugh whatever

24:18

but for some reason he pulls it off. He

24:21

pulls

24:21

it off and I'm like,

24:24

I'm like yes man. Like when

24:26

he, I know we can't get, I want to get into

24:29

some specifics, when he goes into

24:31

the classroom that's filled with

24:34

girl children,

24:36

he goes up so much

24:38

confidence for not

24:40

knowing what he's doing or what's going

24:42

on. He comes in and he erases whatever's

24:45

on the board.

24:45

I go back down too. What

24:48

a power move. What

24:50

a power move. He like erases

24:52

and then he writes the name of the missing child

24:55

on there and he's like that's what I'm looking for. That's a wild plan.

24:58

He's like, through your lesson plan. Yeah he's

25:00

like this is my class now. I

25:03

don't care about your education children. Wild

25:06

behavior. Yeah okay let's watch

25:08

this trailer before we get into it and

25:10

I gotta say this is also one of the worst

25:13

trailers

25:13

I've ever seen. Oh really?

25:15

So we're starting it off right here.

25:18

Great.

25:23

Afternoon. Sorry,

25:26

not there. Okay,

25:29

I'll get it.

25:38

Give me your hand! Edward,

25:51

I know that we haven't spoken in a

25:53

few years.

25:55

I need your help.

25:56

I need your help. I

25:58

have a daughter.

25:59

Her name is Rowan. She has been

26:02

missing for two weeks now. I

26:05

fear she is in danger, so now I turn

26:07

to you. Be careful

26:08

and believe in missing that you see you're

26:11

here. Hello, Mr. Berry. Hey. Sorry.

26:14

Snuck up on me there. This is private property.

26:16

You know her? Mmm. I don't recognize

26:19

this child.

26:26

My little girl is still here. She

26:31

has to take it.

26:32

By who? I don't know. I'll

26:34

find her. If she existed,

26:37

we would know of her. Who's

26:39

desk is this, Bill? Whoa!

26:46

Hello?

26:50

You suspect

26:50

foul play.

26:52

The Wicker

26:54

Man returns. Who's

26:57

the Wicker Man? I'm

26:59

gonna search every issue that counts.

27:05

You'll be mad. She burned

27:07

to death. She burned to death. I

27:13

need your help.

27:23

Unbelievable.

27:25

Really insane trailer. I just... Whoa.

27:29

Can't believe it, yeah. And late.

27:31

Since you did not watch that, how do you feel after

27:33

watching that trailer? I

27:35

feel overwhelmed.

27:37

I feel

27:39

like Nicolas

27:41

Cage's acting absolutely

27:44

never disappoints. Just

27:46

a shot of him holding

27:49

his face and pulling down on

27:51

his cheek.

27:53

It's like he makes these choices

27:56

where you're like,

27:56

no one else would have chosen

27:59

to do that. That is a really strange

28:02

choice and it works. I guess it works.

28:05

It's only for you though, Nicolas Cage. It's just

28:07

for you. It's just for you.

28:09

His reactions are

28:11

so over the top. Like when the phone rings,

28:13

he like practically jumps out of his chair

28:17

and I'm like, what a way to live. Like, he's

28:19

just like, everything he's doing is just like

28:21

over the top.

28:22

I got to admit, I was pretty disappointed

28:24

in the trailer. They don't include what is my favorite

28:26

line in the whole movie. And it's in the scene. He goes

28:29

to the classroom. He points at the desk.

28:32

He goes, he's like, what's on that desk? And he walks over

28:34

with his finger pointed. And then he opens

28:36

and the raven flies out, which is in the trailer.

28:38

But what they don't include in the trailer is that when he opens

28:41

it, he goes,

28:42

what? I died,

28:44

I died. Oh

28:49

my God.

28:51

There's so many incredible

28:54

moments in this film. Incredible. Again,

28:56

I had a really good time. This

28:59

is a recommend for me. I feel like,

29:01

oh yeah, Natalie, you should watch it.

29:04

Yeah, I do have a good time. The trailer actually

29:06

made it look scarier than it is. It's

29:09

not that scary.

29:11

At most I call it a thriller.

29:13

Like suspenseful, like what's going on this

29:15

island?

29:15

Why are all these women here and these bees?

29:18

Also, yeah, my question is, what's

29:20

going on with the bees? Like, so they sacrifice

29:23

a man every year for the bees?

29:27

We'll get

29:27

into it. I think I'm really jumping at

29:29

it.

29:30

I think I have answers, Sammy,

29:33

I need ya for

29:35

that question. I think that everything tracks

29:37

and everything makes 100% sense.

29:42

All right, let's get

29:45

into recapping it.

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a few things right in the beginning that

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35:39

shocked me. Papyrus

35:42

right off the bat. One of the things that I will say, I was

35:44

like, oh, because I knew where the movie was going a

35:46

little bit from the trailer slash memes online,

35:49

I will say I was impressed that the very first

35:51

time you see Nicholas Cage, they're

35:53

at a diner is his. There's

35:56

another cop there and then

35:59

his plate arrived. So we saw them see Nicholas Cage

36:01

and the waitress goes, honey,

36:04

and then he turns around and that

36:06

I was like, okay That's

36:09

I'm on board Let's get

36:12

to bees

36:13

One crazy thing that happens even

36:15

before that is there is another patron

36:18

in this diner

36:19

That finishes up paying and this patron

36:22

is played by Aaron Eckhart for

36:24

For no reason that was Aaron Eckhart.

36:27

Yeah Oh my gosh, I thought it looked

36:29

like him and I was like, well, it's him. No

36:31

way. He's in the credits. Yeah, he's credited

36:34

Just for

36:35

that So not

36:37

sure why that happened

36:39

Amazing and he's not He's

36:41

well known at that time. He's not yeah,

36:44

unfamous He must have had been

36:46

a friend of of the director or something Or

36:49

he was like walking through on set. Yeah,

36:51

like yeah, you need somebody, right? Turns

36:53

out he's in the back of almost every shot in the movie

36:55

when you're done We rewatch it and it's

36:57

like Do

37:01

you see him does he have a line or anything he's

37:03

like says thank you for he's like finishing

37:05

up paying the bill And he's like, thanks. See

37:07

you. See you later or something. Oh

37:10

Immediately distracting immediately pulls

37:12

you out of the movie. You're like, wait,

37:13

what is happening? Yeah five seconds

37:15

in and you're like, huh? And

37:17

then another detail that I really

37:19

love is that Nicholas Cage before

37:22

he's called over he's looking at a rack

37:25

of Books and

37:27

self-help tapes. Yeah, he

37:30

picks one Called everything's

37:32

okay. It's a set of tapes

37:34

I love that.

37:36

I don't know why this okay.

37:38

I know I said everything makes 100% sense

37:41

but this I didn't I don't quite know what they were

37:43

trying to trying to do with this

37:45

it does come up Later at

37:47

one point is they go missing

37:49

and he asks where they are and then we never have you

37:51

seen my tape We never refer to them ever again

37:57

What an embarrassing question to ask

37:59

Yeah, I'm sure it would never

38:02

bring it up ever. Never tell

38:04

anybody about it. So

38:06

funny. But yeah, so so Nicholas

38:09

Cage, his character's name is Edward Mayless.

38:12

He's a cop. We see him kind of going about

38:14

his cop business.

38:17

A highway cop. He's like motorcycling.

38:20

Yeah, he's like pulling people over.

38:22

And a little doll gets thrown out of car window.

38:25

He scoops it up while he's driving. Pretty

38:27

impressive.

38:28

That's the save the cat

38:30

moment. So you're on his side.

38:32

That saves the doll, right? He saves it,

38:35

pulls over the

38:37

pulls over the driver and

38:40

it's like a mom and her daughter in the backseat.

38:42

She immediately is so apologetic. She immediately

38:44

is like, sorry, sorry. She's kind of just been

38:46

like a brat is basically what she says.

38:49

Totally throwing her kid under the bus.

38:52

Yeah, I basically call in her kid a bitch

38:54

right in front of the top. Like,

38:56

damn. I thought

38:59

I thought it had fallen off the roof or something.

39:01

I thought the doll had fallen off the roof. It

39:04

was so wild just how quickly

39:06

the mom was like, daughter did it. Not

39:09

my fault. She's she's she's

39:11

she's she's she's

39:14

daughter has

39:15

the audacity to throw the

39:17

doll back out of the window

39:19

onto the road. Wow.

39:21

Nicholas Cage goes, oh, he's like, don't. And mom's

39:23

like, don't do that. And Nicholas

39:26

Cage is a little piece of crap.

39:31

She's like 11 years old. Right.

39:33

And she's playing with the doll that maybe for

39:36

four or five year olds. Yeah.

39:38

Yeah. Everything

39:40

about this situation is off. I got a question.

39:43

Is the doll dressed like Rowan?

39:46

Does the doll have like a little sweater? Little

39:48

red sweater? Yes. OK.

39:51

Yeah. OK. You're

39:53

watching. I was watching the movie and I did. I

39:55

was watching it so much that

39:58

I think I could tell that.

39:59

This never pays off in any way.

40:02

Again, I think it does.

40:05

You think it does? Oh my God. Sami?

40:07

Yep. I don't think... I

40:10

Googled if they came back and Google told me that they did it. Oh,

40:12

it said no? Google said no. Reddit said

40:14

no. But also

40:16

I will say there are so many little

40:19

blonde white girls and older blonde

40:21

white ladies. Yes. It was impossible

40:24

to tell them apart. Impossible.

40:26

I agree. I

40:29

only could tell from the six feet under

40:31

woman because I love that woman. Yes, two six feet under women.

40:33

The hot rabbi is also in it. Oh

40:37

my God. She's the teacher. I'm

40:39

not done with six feet under. No spoilers. I'm

40:41

watching it right now. It's so good. So

40:43

good. So good. But

40:46

so, yeah, as he goes to scoop up this doll

40:48

to return it to the bratty little kid, a

40:51

huge truck plows into their

40:53

car. Really shocking. Truly

40:56

shocking.

40:57

Like blew me away that

41:00

when that happened,

41:01

he tries to break the window to get the little girl out.

41:04

But the car explodes

41:05

and throws him backwards

41:08

and he can't save them.

41:09

And she doesn't react. So

41:12

she's like, she's in the back. She's like, give me your hand. And

41:14

she's just staring at him creepily,

41:17

which she had already done a little bit earlier. She's

41:19

a brat. She'd rather die than by not

41:21

by you, sir. I

41:27

got to say, I literally didn't

41:29

look up anything about this movie and they

41:31

never watched the original. So I literally

41:33

was walking into this blind. And when that semi

41:36

hit that car, I was like, what

41:38

movie am I watching? And

41:41

then also, so he smashes

41:43

the car. He goes,

41:46

he breaks the back window. He reaches out and give me your hand. Give

41:48

me your hand. She just looks at him creepily.

41:51

Car explodes. He blows back with

41:53

your man. Oh,

41:54

yeah. Idol of the movie. Wait, what?

41:59

Why entitled now?

42:02

That was more surprising than the car hitting the truck

42:04

in your car. What's

42:07

the title sequence after a mother

42:10

and daughter get plowed? Jesus.

42:15

And yeah, we see after, you know, some

42:17

time has passed, he's taken

42:20

pills, he's traumatized from this incident, really

42:23

replays it a lot. He's not doing well.

42:26

And he didn't say that they never found

42:28

the

42:28

body from the car, which

42:31

is impossible, I think, based on

42:33

what we just saw. Unless they

42:35

were incinerated, completely incinerated.

42:38

They don't think it was that big of an explosion.

42:41

Yeah. And the cop, another cop, a

42:43

female cop is telling

42:45

him this, like a friend of his, from

42:47

the force. And she is, I

42:49

can't express how unconcerned

42:52

she is that these bodies aren't in the car. She's

42:54

like, yeah, they never found him. Look

42:57

at the work stuff about it. It's fine. They're just vaporized

42:59

bodies. Because

43:00

I think she's more concerned with

43:02

hitting on him. Didn't you get the vibe that she was

43:04

like,

43:05

yeah, yeah, I do that.

43:06

Nicholas, Nicholas, step out

43:09

of it. I'm in love with you. Yeah.

43:12

But

43:14

he's too concerned about this. This wife again.

43:16

And

43:17

he gets a letter. He gets the mail

43:19

from the force, including a letter

43:22

that's written on 1800 parchment paper. With

43:26

like quill and ink. Inviting

43:31

him to the island. From his ex. His

43:35

ex willow is like,

43:36

you know, I know things that are bad and that was

43:39

kind of my fault. I'm sorry about that.

43:40

But he's like, what

43:42

the fuck? Why did you just say that? And he's like, I just

43:44

thought, I don't know. Which

43:49

maybe he improvised that. Do you think?

43:51

I hope

43:53

so.

43:53

Feels like it.

43:55

If that was scripted, that's surprising.

44:00

I mean, what do you think that was scripted?

44:02

I don't think that was scripted. There was no way that was scripted.

44:05

So the reason I love this scene so much is

44:07

because the pilot,

44:09

he's like, the guy's like, hey, do

44:11

you know where someone's at? He's like, yeah, I

44:14

do deliveries there every day. I

44:16

do these daily. And he's like, oh, cool. Can

44:18

I hitch a ride with you? And he's like, whoa, whoa, these

44:20

are very private people. And where

44:23

I'm from,

44:23

privacy matters. OK, these are, I'm taking

44:26

the moral high ground here.

44:28

And you will not go on my plane to that

44:30

island. And Nick Kate says, well,

44:32

what about me? What if me and my friends

44:34

join you? He goes, friends? He's like, yeah,

44:36

me and Grant and his twin brother

44:38

Ulysses. And he pulls out $100.

44:42

It's $100. His

44:46

name, Henley's baby. The

44:49

guy's moral character goes out the window. He's like, OK. Oh, $100,

44:52

yeah. Great, I'll do anything.

44:54

I'll do anything for $100. He's foaming at

44:56

the mouth. He's foaming at the mouth. He's like,

44:58

get

44:58

it, get it, get it. Yeah, get

45:00

it, get it.

45:01

Get him there,

45:03

Pastor. They gave me buttons and honey. Holy

45:09

hell. They make it to the island.

45:12

Get to the island. And then my favorite

45:14

thing happens. This is a great interaction, this intro.

45:18

He sees some of the

45:21

people that live there. It's a couple of women and some

45:23

men with a burlap sack that

45:25

seems to be dripping blood. They're

45:27

like, why are you here? You're

45:30

not allowed to be here. You don't have clearance. He's like, I'm a

45:33

cop. I'm allowed to be wherever I want to be. Are

45:36

you screaming? Already confident. They're

45:39

kind of like, what's a cop?

45:41

Yeah, they're kind of like, huh? And

45:43

he's like, a police officer.

45:46

And they still are a little thrown. These three

45:48

people, however, other people on the

45:50

island are like, hey, you're from California.

45:53

You don't have jurisdiction here. So some of the people

45:55

on the island understand how jurisdiction

45:57

works. Wow, people have never heard.

46:02

But my favorite line happens, he's

46:04

looking suspiciously at this bag

46:06

that's... Which is wriggling. Wriggling and dripping

46:09

blood and he goes,

46:11

what is that, a shark or something? Is

46:15

that a script like that? No,

46:17

I think he improvised

46:20

the whole thing.

46:21

Everyone likes a mod script. Sounds

46:23

like it.

46:25

That's giving

46:27

me audition vibes, unfortunately.

46:30

A much more terrifying,

46:33

horrible film than this one.

46:35

Yeah. Oh. Sorry,

46:37

David. We're

46:40

not going to audition territory today. Thank God,

46:42

thank God. But then they're like,

46:44

do you want to look in the back? So he's like, yeah, I'll

46:46

look in the back. And he goes to look in the back and

46:48

they kind of shake it out and they go like, oh! And

46:52

then he just doesn't look in the back. And we never

46:54

learn what's in it. And he runs

46:55

away. Yeah.

46:57

He gets pooped? He gets scared? He

47:00

says, oh, you just scared me with that bag. He's a

47:02

little

47:03

bit like, he just walks away and

47:05

we're just left being like, okay, dot,

47:07

dot, dot. There's actually like a few scenes that end

47:09

like that where they're just like, all right, I guess we'll

47:12

end the scene now. Let's move on to the next

47:14

scene.

47:14

Oh. But yeah,

47:16

he goes to the... Oh,

47:18

he's got a little photo of Rowan

47:20

and he's showing it to them and everyone's

47:22

saying that they don't recognize her. And

47:25

he brings up Willow. Willow, this is

47:27

Willow's daughter. They say, we know Willow, but that's

47:30

not her daughter. And we've never

47:32

seen that girl before. Gaffling. Yeah.

47:35

And he gets a room at the local

47:37

tavern. Yes. Sorry. But

47:40

isn't the photo of the girl the same as

47:42

the girl in the car that gets smashed? No, this

47:44

is what I'm saying. All little white girls look the

47:46

same in this movie. They look so... Wait, I thought

47:48

that... That's what I thought. That's what I really thought from

47:50

the trailer. Yeah. I thought that that was the

47:52

same girl. Hold on, Elizabeth. You

47:55

think that was the same girl the whole

47:57

time you watched the movie?

47:58

Yeah, Willy. I mean, I'm not sure. I mean,

48:00

we watch movies differently,

48:01

all right? You're critically

48:04

thin and I'm just

48:06

vaguely

48:07

catching things. That's amazing. There

48:08

are two little blonde girls with pigtails.

48:11

Don't do that to me. I thought

48:13

that same thing, watching the trailer. Oh, really? I

48:16

just made that assumption. I was like, that's the same girl.

48:18

Sadly, I watched the whole movie. And

48:22

I just don't pause that. I think that's

48:24

the same thing. There are two

48:25

different girls. Two different girls. I

48:27

think it's so that he has trauma and he feels all this guilt.

48:29

And he's like, I need to redeem myself with

48:32

a little blonde girl because I messed

48:34

it up last time.

48:35

Yeah, throughout the movie, he had dream

48:37

flashbacks of the crash.

48:40

He constantly is having flashbacks.

48:42

He'd be like, this is why it's important to him.

48:45

It doesn't really help that much. But they're

48:47

not connected. Unconnected? But it's not connected. I

48:49

Googled to me, told me that it never comes

48:51

up again. It sounds like Sammy, maybe you think that

48:54

he could. I have an idea. You think that there at

48:56

the end? I think I saw something,

48:58

yeah. I think I saw something.

49:00

There was a shot. I think I saw something.

49:03

There was a shot in the movie to me where I'm like, oh,

49:05

they're revealing that these are the people from the car accident.

49:07

But once again, it's impossible to tell all

49:10

these people apart. It's really

49:12

hard. It was really tough. Please.

49:14

Yeah. You're right. All little

49:17

blond ladies and girls. Yeah.

49:21

He gets a room at this tavern and

49:24

enter

49:25

Willow.

49:26

Isn't that when she comes in?

49:27

Willow's works there. Yeah. This

49:30

part's really strange for me too, because the

49:32

whole island is basically like, you can't be here. It's a private

49:34

island. You can't be here. You can't be here. And then he's like,

49:36

can I have a room? And they give him a room.

49:39

And

49:40

he doesn't use the fact that he knows Willow. Like

49:42

him and Willow's knowledge of one another is

49:45

on the down low. It's like a secret that they know each

49:47

other. So I just don't understand why they're letting him

49:49

stay on the island. I guess I know in the long run.

49:52

But it felt very strange

49:54

to me. I'm like, it was a really weird scene. Yeah,

49:57

why not just be like Willow? Yeah.

49:59

Yeah. See?

49:59

But I think it's because we're trying to think that

50:02

or I think they're trying to get across that will is like scared

50:04

of the people on the island and so she's trying

50:06

to be a be discreet

50:09

about that the fact that she's getting

50:11

help to investigate all of them because she doesn't

50:13

know who's taken her daughter who's

50:16

who can be trusted who can't be. But

50:19

yeah, everyone seems unhappy

50:22

that he is here

50:25

and while he's at the counter

50:27

of the tavern a B flies up and he

50:29

smashes

50:29

it with a cup

50:32

and everyone in the tavern and I also

50:34

was like, it's like a cute little

50:37

bumblebee and they

50:39

look very offended by this. So he's

50:41

not setting a good tone here, but then we see

50:43

that he has Epi pens and he's allergic

50:46

to the bee sting. So that makes sense.

50:48

I thought that was a fly. So when he

50:51

smashes it and says I'm allergic, I said

50:53

you can be allergic to fly. I

51:00

don't know if you have weird. Someone

51:03

was allergic to chicken, which I didn't know you could

51:06

be allergic to chicken. This morning

51:08

there was a huge fly flying around my kitchen and Silas

51:10

kept going. He

51:17

kept going B, B, he thought

51:20

it was a B the whole time. So you

51:22

got a B confused with a fly. Silas

51:25

got a fly confused with a B. Once again,

51:28

a two year old to a 32 year old

51:30

woman. I

51:33

don't want to say it. I really,

51:35

really hurt to not bring it

51:38

up. So I appreciate that you

51:40

did it. Don't worry, I got

51:42

you.

51:43

Okay, so him and Willow

51:45

have seen

51:46

each other. They are

51:48

not. She hands him a note. She

51:51

hands him a note that's like, let's have a secret

51:53

little meeting and they do.

51:54

And she basically just says, like,

51:56

I don't know who to trust. The only person I can

51:59

trust is you.

51:59

And he asked him the father. He says, why are

52:02

you asking me? Where's the father of this child?

52:04

And she says, like, you're the only person in the trust.

52:09

Is it him? Is he this father? So

52:12

they meet up.

52:15

My other question is, sorry,

52:17

but like, if he's immediately

52:20

asking after this child, he's immediately

52:22

investigating. Yeah, loudly

52:24

and aggressively.

52:25

When he gets to the hotel, he

52:27

does turn around, hold up the picture. And he's like,

52:29

I'm a cop. Everybody looks at everyone.

52:34

Everyone. So

52:36

what if people automatically be like,

52:38

oh, are you with Willow or like, don't you guys know

52:41

each other? Yeah, yes, yes. And

52:43

then that will, oh, that Rowan doesn't

52:45

exist, right? So they're, they're like, you're

52:47

kind of nuts. Everyone is acting like

52:49

they don't know. You've never heard of Rowan. We don't know

52:52

what we don't know that picture is. Yeah.

52:54

And after he has this little secret

52:56

meeting with Willow is when he goes back

52:59

to his room. And he's like, so he took my tape. Excuse

53:01

me, miss. Have you seen my tapes? They're called

53:03

Everything's Okay. And I

53:05

feel like this is a device by the screenwriter

53:08

to be like, this will be the moment where we know

53:10

everything's not okay. Oh, that

53:13

is incredible. If that's what I think.

53:16

You and that's amazing. I can't think

53:18

of any other purpose for it. That's

53:20

amazing.

53:22

I mean, and that's really where it starts

53:25

to not be okay. Right.

53:26

Exactly. Oh my

53:28

God.

53:28

Does he meet up with Willow before he finds

53:31

the bees?

53:32

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

53:34

I mean, I feel like the whole movie is just

53:36

him meeting up with Willow and then investigating some

53:38

more. It like kind of goes back and forth between that.

53:40

The next

53:43

main scene is him going.

53:45

So he goes and he talks to like Lely

53:47

Ziabowski.

53:50

So, so BSC. So BSC. And

53:53

he's like talking to her. He's like,

53:55

Hey, do you know where I can find Willow? She's actually at the school.

53:57

So yeah, they're going to school. But at one point,

53:59

He's like,

54:00

when you leave, take me with you. And he's like,

54:02

uh-huh, uh-huh. And

54:05

then he like leaves. Yeah, so. Mm-hmm.

54:07

Oh, yeah, that was one of the other scenes that I was

54:09

like, hey, we're just ending that scene here now. Yeah.

54:12

Okay. All the directions of the school I did write

54:14

down were up the hill and through the woods, which

54:17

to me I think are a horrible direction. Yeah.

54:20

Yeah. On a huge island that is mostly

54:22

woods, to say up the hill and through the woods, guaranteed

54:25

you're lost. 100% you're lost. Yeah.

54:28

Oh, immediate. She also tells

54:30

him that, because he doesn't have honey

54:32

for his tea or something. And she tells him,

54:34

there's no honey right now. And

54:36

he's like, aren't there

54:37

so many bees on this island when you have honey for,

54:40

he's like such a dick about it. Well, because it's a little

54:42

bear. It's like a little bear squeezy bottle. And

54:44

I noted that. I was like, what the heck? This is a

54:47

honey island. I wanted

54:48

a store-bought. You guys should make honey.

54:50

And she tells him that their crop did

54:52

not turn out well. Bad harvest, but

54:54

they got themselves a bad harvest. Every

54:55

establishment I go to, I always

54:58

yell that. You guys buy honey?

55:00

What the fuck is this? What the

55:02

fuck is this? You guys don't make

55:04

your own honey? Like, what are

55:07

you doing?

55:07

Yeah, he doesn't know about the whole

55:10

honey thing. He hasn't met the bees at all.

55:12

No, he's only one.

55:14

He's like, green. He

55:16

is an asshole.

55:19

He is an asshole in this. It's

55:21

hilarious. You know what's so funny is that, while

55:23

I was watching it, I feel like I didn't even

55:25

read it as asshole, and only now in revisiting

55:28

it, I'm like, oh, he is a dick the whole time. But I think

55:30

just because of my feelings about Nicholas

55:32

Cage, like you were saying earlier, he just really pulls

55:35

it off in a way that I'm like, oh, it's just like Nicholas Cage

55:37

being the end of the stage. Also,

55:40

he's just being gaslit the whole movie.

55:42

The whole movie is just him getting gaslit because

55:45

he gets to the school. He's

55:47

like, hey, I'm looking for Rowan. He rakes his

55:49

whiteboard. And then it really

55:51

turns out and says the name that he wrote down, which

55:54

is hysterical to me. Could have just said it. Every

55:58

student is like, nope, don't know who that is.

55:59

He shows on who it is. He snatches

56:02

the ledger at the attendance book opens

56:05

it up. Rowan's name is in there

56:07

crossed off And

56:10

that's when he queued the desk Whose

56:14

desk is that? Yeah an empty desk

56:16

bird you bird What

56:20

Oh My

56:24

god, he anyway scream

56:26

now you are all bunch of little liars You're

56:28

the biggest liar of all the teacher. He's

56:30

screaming at the whole world like what

56:32

the fuck? Yeah, they are I mean, yeah,

56:35

it is true.

56:36

What a man yelling at a bunch of

56:38

little girls saying that they're all liars Can

56:41

I talk to you outside? Can we can we talk outside? And

56:45

they go outside and she's

56:47

real cryptic But kind of implies that

56:50

Rowan is dead like we would tell

56:52

you if she existed Phrasing

56:54

things real weird. He's like, what do you mean? She doesn't

56:56

exist. Do you mean she's dead and She's

57:00

like we

57:01

don't say that word. Yeah, it's

57:03

very a very bizarre Interaction

57:05

later. She does say death She

57:09

does say death after a specific thing we don't use

57:11

that word.

57:12

Yeah, nothing she says makes sense

57:14

here, but He's

57:16

asking how did she die if she's dead and

57:19

she says she she will burn to death Implying

57:22

in the future and then he's like what did you

57:24

say and she says I said

57:26

she burned to death Gaslighting

57:30

and he's really scratching his head The

57:33

fuck is going on here also

57:35

bird the bird and he follow

57:37

up on the bird To

57:40

see how long it would live is what one of the little girl said

57:42

just

57:42

some light animal torture

57:45

One thing that we did that we didn't miss

57:48

That I realized is the first night

57:51

that he's there. He looks out the

57:53

window He hears something and he sees somebody

57:55

dressed in Rowan's outfit from the picture

57:58

outside running away So

58:00

he goes

58:01

to like go after her in

58:04

what I think is maybe the slowest chase

58:06

that if I saw a little

58:09

girl, if I saw a missing little girl,

58:11

I would be sprinting at full speed. That's

58:13

just my point of view. Maybe as a father,

58:16

maybe that's what's different. But he's kind

58:18

of just like kind of lightly walking.

58:21

Go by this. And then she

58:23

ends up disappearing is what happens there. So

58:25

that's kind of like he's

58:26

been having like visions of the other

58:28

little girl.

58:28

And so we're not sure if maybe

58:31

he was that real.

58:33

Was it

58:35

not so fair? We're not sure. But

58:37

yeah, so after he has this

58:39

interaction

58:39

with the teacher, he goes to find

58:42

a grave. He

58:44

finds a freshly dug

58:46

and buried small child

58:48

sized grave.

58:50

And he's like, Hmm, this, this

58:52

could be Rowan.

58:53

Willow

58:54

shows up and is like, Nope, that's

58:57

not her. I know it's not her. They did it.

58:59

She's still alive. They did that. I

59:02

don't know who's doing

59:02

this. He's just getting yanked around, man.

59:05

Yeah. Around. And

59:07

then she shows him the like underground

59:10

crypt for some reason.

59:12

I can't remember why, but to be like, this

59:14

will come back later.

59:15

She understands foreshadowing.

59:18

Yeah,

59:18

yeah. Oh, and this is do

59:20

where we learn.

59:22

You randomly.

59:23

He's a father, which is a huge shocker

59:25

to all of us.

59:27

Maths are shocker. You have

59:30

the daughter from back eight

59:32

years and nine months ago when we were having sex. That's

59:35

my kid. Yeah, yeah.

59:37

I didn't even

59:39

think about that timing. So she just while

59:41

they're in the crypt, she's like, by the

59:43

way,

59:43

she's like, I can't let them

59:45

do this to our daughter. And then she

59:47

goes, oh, like,

59:51

I was able to keep it a secret for this long.

59:54

I let it slip just now.

59:57

So now he's got like a fire under his ass.

1:00:00

find her. He's reinvigorated.

1:00:02

So he gets even more aggressive. He's ever

1:00:04

not invigorated. He's been screaming

1:00:06

at people this whole time and yes, amped up now. So

1:00:10

then he goes down to the docks.

1:00:12

I think it's like the next thing I, he goes down to the dock because

1:00:14

the plane is there and he kind of,

1:00:17

he just wants to, he's been doing cell phone, trying

1:00:19

to find, he has no service. He's like, Oh,

1:00:21

the plane probably has a radio. So we're good to go.

1:00:23

I'll use the radio. Also in

1:00:26

that first scene where he meets the townspeople,

1:00:28

they're like, how'd you get to this island? And

1:00:31

how did you get to this

1:00:33

island? And he's like, um, well, and they're like,

1:00:35

did the pilot take you? And he's like, well,

1:00:38

I mean, and they're like, huh, we're going to have to do something

1:00:40

about that pilot basically is what they say. Okay.

1:00:43

So now the plane is just floating in the water and

1:00:45

on the dock they do. This

1:00:48

is also a top, top scene for me is,

1:00:50

uh, he's on the dock and he looks

1:00:53

and he's having a, uh, he sees a dead

1:00:55

body floating under the water

1:00:58

under the dock and he dives and

1:01:00

he goes under and it's Rowan, it's

1:01:03

Rowan's body. And then it goes

1:01:05

black and he's, it's like a flash

1:01:07

and he's sitting on the dock and it was like, Oh,

1:01:09

that was just a vision. And

1:01:10

then we zoom out and we see that he's holding

1:01:13

Rowan's dead body

1:01:15

and that also was a vision. So we

1:01:17

did

1:01:18

like a double nap

1:01:19

situation. I

1:01:22

dream with it. I dream with it. A dream is what just happened.

1:01:25

And he

1:01:26

took the time to take things off

1:01:28

before he jumped in the

1:01:29

water. Yeah, he did take his time. Yeah,

1:01:31

that's fair.

1:01:32

Once again, didn't run after the child

1:01:34

in the night and then he had to take his

1:01:36

shoes off. Yeah.

1:01:37

And then he swims out to the plane and

1:01:40

the radio is like all busted. The pilot's

1:01:42

not in there. Radio is broken. So

1:01:46

things are getting, not everything is

1:01:48

not okay. Yeah.

1:01:50

Everything is not okay.

1:01:52

Those damn tapes to talk them

1:01:55

down. But

1:01:58

so then he earlier we saw that

1:01:59

And there was photos on the wall of the

1:02:02

bar, basically

1:02:04

like the Midsommar

1:02:07

photos of the May Queen type thing. It's like each

1:02:09

year at the festival they take a photo of a little girl,

1:02:11

but the photo from last year is missing and

1:02:15

smashed, destroyed just

1:02:17

the night before he arrived.

1:02:19

Can you believe it?

1:02:21

And so he tracks down the photographer's

1:02:23

house, who's also the doctor of the

1:02:25

island, and this is Frances Conroy

1:02:27

from Six Feet Under. And

1:02:31

he's asking if she can print

1:02:33

or she tells him, I don't have a copy, but I have

1:02:35

the negative, I can print you another one.

1:02:38

And but I have to go right now, so I can't do

1:02:40

it right now. Wait, sorry.

1:02:43

I know you mentioned this before, but just to confirm,

1:02:45

everyone's a woman. Is he like the only

1:02:47

man? Good question. There are some men.

1:02:49

There are some men, but none

1:02:52

of them

1:02:52

ever talk and they're all doing like physical

1:02:54

labor tasks

1:02:55

as it should be.

1:02:57

And also here we go. This is another top

1:02:59

scene for me is at one point he

1:03:02

passes a bunch of guys, one of whom is like

1:03:05

loading logs up onto a trailer. And

1:03:09

he's like, hey, you need help with that? And the guy

1:03:11

like nods, but doesn't say anything. And he

1:03:14

helps him lift a log. And then as soon as

1:03:16

he does it, like 30 logs fall

1:03:18

off the trailer onto them. He like saves

1:03:20

the guy. He like throws them out of the way, saves

1:03:22

him. And he's like,

1:03:25

hey, watch out or whatever. And

1:03:27

the guy doesn't say anything. He's like, what? You're

1:03:29

not going to say anything. And then he leaves. He

1:03:31

helped him. And then left. But

1:03:33

so after the photographer, doctor woman

1:03:36

leaves her house with some beekeepers

1:03:38

who

1:03:43

have

1:03:51

pretty weird

1:03:53

kind of creepy.

1:03:55

It's good game masks. Oh yeah. Yeah.

1:03:58

Yeah. They are wearing.

1:03:59

like beekeeper mask but it looks exactly

1:04:02

like the people in the swimming game. Yeah,

1:04:04

yep, that's right.

1:04:05

And well, ahead of their time. And

1:04:10

he breaks into her house after she leaves

1:04:12

and is snooping

1:04:14

around, finds some text that

1:04:17

talks about human sacrifice

1:04:21

to help the crops if

1:04:23

there's a bad harvest year that you need

1:04:26

to up your sacrifices essentially

1:04:28

in order to appease the gods,

1:04:30

goddesses. And

1:04:33

the photo is of a child, I think.

1:04:35

The sketch in the book is

1:04:38

like a child's

1:04:38

sacrifice. And so

1:04:40

he's like, oh, shit, they're

1:04:42

planning to sacrifice Rowan

1:04:45

because of the crops. Well, because he finds the negative.

1:04:47

He does find the photo that was missing, right?

1:04:49

And he finds that it was Rowan,

1:04:52

was the last May queen or whatever.

1:04:55

Those are kind of coming together.

1:04:56

Because the harvest was bad, it's

1:04:58

her fault is what we

1:05:00

have. Yep, yep, I see.

1:05:03

Not good May queen. A

1:05:05

literal

1:05:05

May queen? Is that what's May day? I

1:05:07

mean, it's May 1st. So I think it would be they don't

1:05:09

say May queen in it, but I

1:05:12

think it's

1:05:13

fair. Yeah.

1:05:16

Also pretty shocked that they that this

1:05:18

island that doesn't have like any electricity has color

1:05:21

photography. That kind of surprised me. Yeah.

1:05:24

So he's going back

1:05:26

out, doing more investigating and

1:05:29

he meets back up with Willow, the other thing that

1:05:31

he does. And

1:05:36

I think he's really angry with her now is he's like screaming

1:05:38

at her again and it's just like, why didn't you tell me that

1:05:40

she was involved in this in

1:05:42

the festival? And they're

1:05:45

I think they're going to sacrifice her. I don't know if he says

1:05:47

that, but he's like really yelling at her. And then she

1:05:49

is

1:05:50

looking scared. And then for

1:05:52

some reason they kiss and I don't I don't really

1:05:55

remember why, but it it it

1:05:57

evolves into a yarn. Yeah.

1:05:59

Yeah, I did write down.

1:06:04

I feel a little bit bad saying this, but I did write

1:06:06

down Willow is useless. Why did she

1:06:08

go back? Does she know things or not?

1:06:11

It's so like, you're

1:06:13

being the

1:06:16

least helpful for somebody that has a missing daughter,

1:06:18

like being so, so unhelpful. Yeah.

1:06:21

So I guess, yeah, he's yelling at her because he's

1:06:23

like, why aren't you telling me anything? Because

1:06:25

I'm out here doing a lot of legwork

1:06:28

and you're not really helping

1:06:31

me. And then he goes

1:06:35

back out to

1:06:37

explore more

1:06:39

and talk to more people and run. This is

1:06:42

where he finds the bee. Hi.

1:06:44

Thank

1:06:44

you. Okay. Okay. He finds

1:06:48

the bee. He's

1:06:50

at the edge of like a bee

1:06:51

sanctuary field full

1:06:54

of bees. He's

1:06:55

at the very edge, encounters a bee.

1:07:00

He has to see that there are so many bees

1:07:02

in front of him. And where he just

1:07:04

came from, obviously there wasn't any. So

1:07:07

which direction would you go?

1:07:09

There's not any behind him. And there's

1:07:11

so many in front of him. He

1:07:15

keeps running and stumbling more

1:07:18

and more and more bees. Like a turn

1:07:20

around. It's

1:07:22

comical Henley. Like

1:07:25

it's like, this is a clown. This

1:07:27

is a clown. And clown. Yeah. Where's his

1:07:29

happy pen? He pulls it

1:07:32

out.

1:07:33

But he passes out before he has a

1:07:35

chance to use it. He's too late.

1:07:38

And he wakes up with the

1:07:42

doctor slash photographer attending

1:07:44

to him. And she says that we

1:07:46

were in the home of Sister Summer's Isle,

1:07:49

who has been referenced before as

1:07:51

kind of maybe the leader of this community.

1:07:54

Oh yeah. And they call each other

1:07:55

sister. Yeah. They call everybody calls each

1:07:57

other. Sister. I was really surprised in the.

1:07:59

moment to learn that sister summer's isle is a

1:08:02

real person.

1:08:03

Right? Because the place is called summer's isle.

1:08:06

It's called summer's isle. And earlier

1:08:08

Willow, he's like, who the heck is sister

1:08:10

summer's isle? And Willow's like, she's everything.

1:08:13

She's the trees. She's the earth. She's

1:08:15

the wind. And then it's like, no, she's

1:08:18

the person. She just actually is the

1:08:21

person. Yeah, that was really,

1:08:23

really surprising. Wait, do

1:08:25

we meet her? Did we meet her?

1:08:28

Well, one thing the doctor

1:08:30

said that I just wanted to know

1:08:33

what you guys interpreted this as

1:08:35

because it kind of confused me. He

1:08:38

has, you know, big lumps on

1:08:40

his arm where there was where he's been

1:08:42

stung. And he looks

1:08:45

at her and he's like, did you use my epi pen,

1:08:47

my kit? And she says, we

1:08:51

I treated the danger in the old

1:08:53

way. And

1:08:54

they kind of stare at each other for like 10

1:08:56

seconds. And I thought

1:08:58

he was going to lift that blanket up and his legs were

1:09:00

amputated. And I was like, we're going to

1:09:02

have like an amputation. But

1:09:05

that's not the case. And I just don't know

1:09:07

what she means by that. I

1:09:08

think blood replaced with honey. That's

1:09:11

I think what it is. Blood replaces. Or like

1:09:12

sucked it out with her mouth. That's kind

1:09:14

of the thing I came

1:09:17

to. Something

1:09:19

weird happened here. But it also doesn't

1:09:21

really matter because it never comes up again. So it never

1:09:23

comes up again. No, don't need

1:09:26

to be worried about it. I just don't believe in modern

1:09:28

medicine. Yeah. In this community.

1:09:30

Right. They're just practicing right.

1:09:32

They're doing something with earth.

1:09:35

Yeah. With the leaves and the trees

1:09:38

and the bees.

1:09:38

I think she sucked it out with her mouth. But

1:09:40

then

1:09:45

yes, now we meet sister

1:09:47

Summers, Summer, I, Summers Isle.

1:09:49

And Edward has

1:09:51

been looking for her because he wants permission

1:09:54

to exhume the grave

1:09:55

that he suspects might be

1:09:57

Willow.

1:09:58

But they have a little.

1:09:59

meeting. This is Ellen Burstyn.

1:10:02

Oh,

1:10:03

she's great. And they

1:10:05

have a little mate, they're like, let's go for a little walk. And

1:10:07

where they walk is five feet from where all the

1:10:09

bees are that could kill him.

1:10:11

Nice, nice.

1:10:12

And they're constantly

1:10:14

flying on him and he's swatting at them, which is

1:10:17

just like not the way to behave

1:10:19

around bees. He's swatting them

1:10:22

on his own skin. It's like, well, that's,

1:10:24

you're going to get stung doing

1:10:26

that.

1:10:27

He probably was like also improvising

1:10:30

all of that. So they're like, God damn, now we have to put a

1:10:32

CGI bee in here. He's

1:10:36

like, it's doing that. Makes no

1:10:39

sense if there isn't one. Also, this is such

1:10:41

a weird scripting that happens in this scene is like

1:10:43

early on in the conversation, he's like, I want to exhume

1:10:45

this body. And she's like, yeah, do whatever

1:10:48

you need to do. And then they talk for like five

1:10:50

more minutes at the end. He's like, all I want to do is exhume

1:10:52

the body. And she's like, I thought I already

1:10:54

said that. He's like, Oh, okay. Good.

1:10:57

It's such a weird thing to put in

1:10:59

a script. It is very bizarre.

1:11:02

It's really weird to have that interaction twice. It's

1:11:04

really strange. Really weird.

1:11:06

But yeah, she gives them like a little background on

1:11:08

the

1:11:09

she's like my Celtic ancestors rebelled

1:11:12

against the suppression of the feminine, fled

1:11:14

to the new world, landed unfortunately

1:11:16

near Salem, saw all of that.

1:11:19

And so continued moving west

1:11:21

until we landed here in the 1850s. And

1:11:25

she's like, so what men are second class citizens?

1:11:31

She's like, no, they're an important part

1:11:33

of our community. We just are not subservient

1:11:36

to them. And I just yeah,

1:11:39

I really liked the idea of him

1:11:41

like standing up for all the men that

1:11:43

he was. I won't have it. They're

1:11:45

scared. They're not. The wrong

1:11:48

man was terrified. But

1:11:53

so then yeah, then he he he goes

1:11:55

to dig up the grave now that he has permission

1:11:58

by himself. He doesn't bring willow.

1:11:59

Just by himself goes and he zooms his body.

1:12:02

Finds a burned doll

1:12:04

in it.

1:12:06

I'm...

1:12:06

This is... I'm piecing this together now. Might

1:12:09

that be the very

1:12:10

same doll that we saw in the opening scene? What?

1:12:13

You know, I have put thought into this. I

1:12:15

think it's a different doll. Once again, it's

1:12:17

supposed to be like... Kind of because remember from

1:12:19

before. Yeah. As

1:12:22

opposed to just doing anything clever with that first

1:12:24

accident or kind of just using it

1:12:26

as like a... Reference point. I'm just wondering

1:12:28

what happened to him previously. Yeah. But

1:12:32

yeah, wait, how would it have

1:12:34

been in the grave? Yeah, it makes no sense. Well, because

1:12:36

it was... As important thing as

1:12:38

that is burned. And that doll was in a car

1:12:40

explosion, so it would be burned.

1:12:42

That's so true. It's so true. But

1:12:44

how would it

1:12:44

have traveled... I think it's the same doll. But

1:12:46

how would it have traveled to the island? They don't answer.

1:12:49

They don't answer that. Yeah. That

1:12:51

doesn't make any sense. So there's just a doll. There's

1:12:53

no human body. Yeah, there's no body. No.

1:12:56

The doll paid the guy $100

1:12:59

to

1:12:59

get a $1. Two

1:13:01

50s count them. One

1:13:04

two. That makes a hundred. And

1:13:09

then he goes into the crypt, which is

1:13:11

partially flooded. So there's a part that's underwater.

1:13:14

And he finds a sweater that looks

1:13:16

like Rowan's sweater. But

1:13:19

as he dives in the water,

1:13:21

I think maybe he even thinks he sees Rowan again

1:13:23

or something.

1:13:26

I believe he has another flashback. He doesn't

1:13:28

want to flash to the car accident because I did

1:13:30

at this point write down, if we don't find

1:13:32

out who the people in the car are, I'm going to be

1:13:34

dead. That is one of those times.

1:13:38

And

1:13:38

then somebody locks him in there, of

1:13:40

course. We knew that was going to happen.

1:13:43

One of the squid gamers.

1:13:44

Oh yeah, and he hangs on to the

1:13:46

grate

1:13:47

for overnight. Yes. Until

1:13:49

Willow comes and saves them. Yep.

1:13:51

And he's literally

1:13:54

hanging to breathe through the grate

1:13:57

all night. Because

1:13:58

you can't breathe. And then you can't breathe. can't breathe

1:14:00

down there, I guess. He can breathe, but

1:14:02

it's just he's like half and it's like he's

1:14:05

mostly submerged in water and just like

1:14:07

breathing up through the little grate in

1:14:10

the top of the entrance to the little crypt part,

1:14:12

but

1:14:12

yeah. So he's weak when she

1:14:15

finds him. He's weak for sure. For

1:14:17

like

1:14:17

doing that all night. And

1:14:20

she lets him out and he's

1:14:23

again screaming at her and

1:14:24

he shoves the doll in her face. It

1:14:27

really is. He's

1:14:29

really screaming and

1:14:30

he's like, why is there a doll in her grave? Have you seen

1:14:32

this doll? Who is this doll?

1:14:34

How did it get burned? How did it get burned?

1:14:35

How did it get burned? That line is in all

1:14:37

of the compilations of Crazy Nicholas

1:14:40

Cage performances.

1:14:40

I

1:14:43

think going forward he is only screaming

1:14:46

at women. I think from here on Mark's every

1:14:48

interaction is only him screaming. Great. Love

1:14:51

it. And she says she doesn't know how it got

1:14:54

burned. She doesn't know what's going

1:14:56

on. No help at all.

1:14:58

He goes back to

1:15:00

Sister Summer's

1:15:01

Isles. I don't know why I'm... We

1:15:06

go to her house. He's like

1:15:08

on a rampage

1:15:09

now trying to find more

1:15:11

women to scream at. Yeah.

1:15:13

He opens the door. He's an old dude

1:15:15

in a bed with a weird face.

1:15:17

He's like, I think stung by a

1:15:19

lot of bees. A man that has been stung

1:15:21

and is swollen because of

1:15:24

the poor men in this film. They're second

1:15:26

class citizens.

1:15:27

And the next door he opens

1:15:29

is a woman covered in bees, which I

1:15:31

don't know what that means at all. I

1:15:34

don't know how that relates. We haven't seen anything like that. Well,

1:15:36

the first Wicker Man, the 1973 Wicker Man is

1:15:39

very horny. There's a lot of sex

1:15:41

scenes. That's a part of the cult

1:15:43

in the original. I

1:15:46

watched the wrong movie. And

1:15:48

so there's a lot of nudity.

1:15:52

And I think there was some in

1:15:54

this movie and they cut it out to try to get a PG-13

1:15:58

rating. And so I had the feeling that this...

1:15:59

was kind of inspired by the original where

1:16:02

it was going to be like him seeing

1:16:04

things he wasn't meant to see that are

1:16:06

provocative and like

1:16:09

boobies with

1:16:09

bees on them. Yeah, boobies. Boobies,

1:16:11

boobies. Boobies.

1:16:14

More

1:16:17

of

1:16:17

that. And we see that like, he

1:16:20

can't find her, but we see her in

1:16:22

a room with her like handmaids

1:16:25

and they're all dressed in white and everyone's getting

1:16:27

prepared for the festival, the big festival,

1:16:29

the celebration of death and rebirth that we've

1:16:31

heard of. It's May 1st,

1:16:33

it's May Day.

1:16:34

Even though they don't say the word death. Right. We're done.

1:16:37

Right.

1:16:37

And so we're seeing

1:16:41

everyone getting ready for that. He's running around

1:16:43

looking for answers and he

1:16:46

goes to the bar full of men and he's like,

1:16:48

men, I need

1:16:49

your help. Oh, yes. Whoa. Let's

1:16:52

unite. Come on, guys. This is our jam. Because

1:16:54

it's just like a Barbie movie, too. So obviously,

1:16:57

yeah. The credit card was referencing

1:17:00

Wicker Man when she made Barbie.

1:17:02

Yes, I think she must have been heavily inspired

1:17:04

by this film.

1:17:05

She must have

1:17:07

been. Can

1:17:09

you not talk? They don't respond.

1:17:11

They just kind of look at them.

1:17:13

We see the old, we haven't brought up the old twins

1:17:15

yet. Oh,

1:17:15

right. Oh, my God. Jacqueline

1:17:17

and Joyce,

1:17:18

my favorite. They had names. They did

1:17:20

because I wrote them down. Yeah,

1:17:24

there's these old, oldish,

1:17:27

I like in their 60s, twin

1:17:29

women that talk in unison. And

1:17:32

I did write down old twins are too creepy.

1:17:34

Probably shouldn't exist. I

1:17:37

said, I love them. I love them.

1:17:39

I need to get a drink with them. Kind of different.

1:17:42

That's what

1:17:44

we're

1:17:44

doing in terms of how old twins should be allowed

1:17:46

to be. Weren't

1:17:47

they like burned, too? They like, I didn't

1:17:49

notice.

1:17:51

I think they were just old.

1:17:52

Oh, that makes me feel even

1:17:55

worse. Because I was like, something's going on

1:17:57

with them. I'm

1:18:00

feeling a little bit tired. Someone's

1:18:03

burned, hurt, old, needs to be put

1:18:05

in the alley for too long. I

1:18:09

gotta get out of town. I

1:18:13

gotta go to Summer's Isle. So then

1:18:15

he just goes and he starts checking every house. So

1:18:17

he goes. So, OK, I guess before

1:18:20

we learn what his plan is,

1:18:21

he busts into

1:18:22

a random house that I was like, have we seen this house before?

1:18:25

But he busts in and he's like, where's Rowan?

1:18:28

And they're like, who's Rowan? And

1:18:30

it's like a mom and a daughter. And then he goes

1:18:32

and he's like looking around. He's like, I'm a cop.

1:18:35

And then he opens a like

1:18:37

an armoire and a little girl pops out and

1:18:39

they laugh as if they had planned that he was going to show

1:18:42

up. Really surprised. And

1:18:44

then his plan is to go to every house

1:18:47

everywhere and just search everywhere for her. And

1:18:49

he's like screaming at people like screaming at

1:18:51

children. Pick

1:18:54

up your mask. They're like,

1:18:55

you have permission to do this. And he's like, you have

1:18:57

permission to get the fuck out of my way.

1:19:02

He really. Yeah, it's like he's

1:19:04

I'm a cop. Everyone move. I'm losing

1:19:06

my mind. And we're seeing people in like little

1:19:08

animal masks kind of watching him from

1:19:11

bushes and he goes

1:19:13

down to the beach at one point. And he does

1:19:15

find the dead body of

1:19:18

the pilot.

1:19:20

And

1:19:21

the pilot's eyes are missing and his mouth is

1:19:23

like sewn. And his hand

1:19:26

is missing.

1:19:27

And instead of a hand, they have shoved

1:19:29

like twigs into

1:19:30

his. Oh, I miss

1:19:32

that. I thought that was his bones. Kind of a little

1:19:35

wicker manny preview.

1:19:37

Yeah, it's actually pretty

1:19:40

great. Why don't they burn him?

1:19:41

Why don't they just burn him? Great

1:19:43

question. Oh, wait, I think I have an answer.

1:19:46

Once we get to the twist of this movie, I do need

1:19:48

to come back to this scene. OK, well, let's get to the

1:19:51

twist. But

1:19:52

the funniest part of this scene is he does try to wake

1:19:54

him up. I like it. This

1:19:58

guy is so good.

1:19:59

So dad is like, hey, dude, his eyes

1:20:02

are missing. And he's like, wake up, man.

1:20:03

He throws $50 out of it. He's like, wake

1:20:06

up, man.

1:20:06

Ready

1:20:09

to go, man? And

1:20:11

he continues tearing

1:20:13

through town. The plane is sunk, too. Oh,

1:20:14

plane is sunk. So his way

1:20:17

of exiting

1:20:17

is also. Yeah,

1:20:19

he's gone to work. Done, though. He's

1:20:21

going into houses. Just all the

1:20:23

kids are wearing masks because it's part

1:20:26

of the festivities. He's wearing costumes,

1:20:28

animal masks. And he's just like knocking masks

1:20:30

off little girls and being like, take your fucking

1:20:33

masks off. I'm a cop. I do this. And

1:20:38

we see the woman that

1:20:41

owns the bar. She's

1:20:43

kind of a big lady, and she's got a big

1:20:45

bear costume and

1:20:48

one that might fit Nicholas Cage if

1:20:50

he were looking to try to sneak into

1:20:52

the festivities. And

1:20:55

we do overhear her and another woman saying, did

1:20:57

you take care of that thing by the docs

1:20:59

we talked about? And the lady being

1:21:01

like, yeah, it's done. It's taken

1:21:04

care of.

1:21:07

So that lady leaves, and it's just the

1:21:10

owner getting in her bear costume

1:21:12

or about to get in her bear costume. Nicholas

1:21:15

Cage just slowly walks

1:21:17

in. It's kind of tense. They're

1:21:19

just staring at each other. She's

1:21:20

like, what? And he's like, what? And they're

1:21:22

like, slowly steps

1:21:25

up, steps up, and gets real

1:21:27

close up to her. And they're just staring at each other.

1:21:29

And he fucking punches

1:21:30

her in the face so hard that

1:21:32

it knocks her out.

1:21:37

And then Lele comes out of

1:21:39

nowhere and jumps on him, and then

1:21:41

they start to fight. And he throws

1:21:44

her up against all the pictures over a

1:21:46

table. And now he's just beating up

1:21:48

women. Oh

1:21:49

my god. Like drop kicks

1:21:51

her. Because in

1:21:54

the chest, like flinging her backwards

1:21:57

knocks her

1:21:57

out too. God, it's funny.

1:22:00

Incredible. It's really

1:22:02

funny. Yeah, if you're not gonna watch the movie you should at least

1:22:04

watch like the I'm sure there's Compilations

1:22:07

of just the craziest scenes from this movie

1:22:10

and this will definitely be in there Oh

1:22:12

my god. He puts on the bear a costume

1:22:14

and this is the point where I was like, dude, this is Midsummer

1:22:20

like that. I was really surprised.

1:22:22

It was a slow gradual Climb

1:22:25

to

1:22:25

it and putting on the bear costume I was

1:22:27

like I gotta talk to whoever wrote Midsummer

1:22:29

now Wicker man are you after

1:22:31

in the fire? Only seen it fired by

1:22:33

a wicker man credit girl We're gonna buy

1:22:35

by wicker man a wicker man seminal film

1:22:38

should be taught in film school

1:22:40

if it isn't already That's right. It must already

1:22:42

be the influence of this film is felt all

1:22:45

around us to this day heavily

1:22:49

Agree at this point. I did write down. I feel like I'm

1:22:51

not gonna get a satisfying ending slash

1:22:53

explanation

1:22:55

At that point you were You

1:22:59

were really holding out hope because at this

1:23:01

point I pause and I was like eight minutes

1:23:04

left what

1:23:07

So,

1:23:11

yeah, he's everyone has

1:23:13

moved into this big clearing in the forest

1:23:16

where whatever this ceremony is

1:23:18

about to happen is gonna take place

1:23:20

and He's shows

1:23:23

Willow that he's it's him in the bear costume

1:23:26

and she's looking scared and Then

1:23:29

as they turn a corner we see

1:23:31

Rowan tied to like a

1:23:34

pyre Like

1:23:36

a tree or something but like looking like they're gonna

1:23:38

light her on fire Yeah, and I think

1:23:40

it's pretty safe to say that it's impossible to

1:23:42

have known that this was Rowan. I Agree,

1:23:46

I agree She looks like everybody

1:23:48

else on the island Yeah, eventually

1:23:50

like three minutes later. He's like Rowan

1:23:52

and he says her name out loud and I was like, oh I thought

1:23:55

this was just another little girl. He was saving at this point.

1:23:57

I truly it was so so hard

1:23:59

It was so hard.

1:24:00

But so he's like, all right, I got

1:24:03

to go save her. And he runs up

1:24:05

in the bear costume. And there's a woman kind

1:24:07

of standing guard in front of Rowan. And

1:24:10

she thinks that this is the bar

1:24:12

owner woman. Sister Beach. What's

1:24:15

Sister Beach? What's wrong? And he just

1:24:17

punches her in the face and knocks her

1:24:19

out

1:24:19

dressed as a bear now. It's

1:24:21

incredible. So funny. Incredible.

1:24:23

It's so funny. And he

1:24:25

unties Rowan. He's like, I'm Edward.

1:24:27

I'm going to save you. And

1:24:29

they run off into the forest.

1:24:33

And. There's no plan. In front of

1:24:35

hundreds of people. He's like, I'm just going

1:24:37

to pick you up and run away with you.

1:24:39

OK. When does he draw his

1:24:41

gun? Because that's in a minute. In

1:24:44

a little bit. OK. OK. And Rowan

1:24:46

kind of seems like she's running ahead.

1:24:49

She's leading him. And he's asking her,

1:24:51

slow down. Rowan, slow down. But

1:24:53

it does seem like you should be running pretty fast. I guess he just

1:24:56

can't run fast. Again, he's just

1:24:58

really out of shape.

1:24:58

He's just out of shape. Yeah, I guess

1:25:01

so.

1:25:01

He's like hunchbacked too in a lot

1:25:03

of this. I don't know.

1:25:04

I think it was a choice. And they

1:25:07

arrive or they get

1:25:09

through to the other side of the woods. And everybody

1:25:12

is already all there. And

1:25:16

Rowan runs into Willow's arms

1:25:19

and says, did I do it right,

1:25:21

Mommy? And Willow says,

1:25:23

yes, that was perfect, sweetie.

1:25:26

They hug. And

1:25:28

this is the reveal.

1:25:30

They planned it. He never saw it coming. It

1:25:33

was all a huge plan. Wow. It's

1:25:35

rude. Wow.

1:25:36

She tricked him to come to the island.

1:25:38

Wow. Wow.

1:25:39

Yeah. And this is where he pulls

1:25:41

his gun. And he starts pointing at everybody. And

1:25:43

it screams, I'm going to shoot you to

1:25:46

everybody.

1:25:46

He says, I'm going to shoot you. He goes back

1:25:49

up. He has what? At most, like, six bullets?

1:25:51

Well, OK. So I think

1:25:54

this is a critical thing that we got to talk

1:25:56

about, which is

1:25:57

the last time that we see this gun. So

1:25:59

we've seen it on

1:25:59

a his side a couple times here and there. He's

1:26:02

never pulling out. But the last

1:26:04

time that we see the gun is that sister,

1:26:06

some of the aisles house,

1:26:07

he picks it up.

1:26:09

He's like, Oh, they probably messed with my gun. He takes

1:26:12

out the chamber or he takes out the

1:26:15

clip, ammo clip, the clip. Thank you. Take

1:26:17

up the clip. There are clearly bullets.

1:26:20

Yeah, he confirms. He's like, there's bullets in my

1:26:22

gun. Good. Yeah. Got them all. And

1:26:25

he puts his gun and he puts in his side. That's

1:26:27

the next step. No days have passed. Besides

1:26:29

him like running around. This gun has never

1:26:31

left his side. Am I wrong? Great

1:26:33

point. No, I think you're right. Yeah. Yeah. But

1:26:36

sure enough, as he is pointing

1:26:38

it and about to shoot at people, he should he

1:26:40

pulls that trigger and no bullets come out and Willow

1:26:43

has

1:26:43

all the bullets in her hand.

1:26:45

Has all the bullets and

1:26:47

she drops all the blood

1:26:48

about a magic trick. That's the magic

1:26:50

of

1:26:51

this movie. But they're all kind of all the women

1:26:54

are

1:26:55

saying basically

1:27:01

taunting him like you thought

1:27:03

you were trying to find a little girl, but

1:27:05

we found you and you're

1:27:08

the just the person we need. And

1:27:10

answer here is that they say

1:27:12

we needed someone who's connected

1:27:15

to us by blood.

1:27:17

And so because I think this is why it couldn't

1:27:19

have been the pilot because they needed

1:27:21

a man. He is pointing it and about

1:27:23

to shoot at people. He pulls that trigger

1:27:25

and no bullets come out and Willow has

1:27:28

all the bullets in her hand.

1:27:29

Has all the bullets and

1:27:31

she drops all the blood

1:27:32

about a magic trick. That's the

1:27:36

magic of this movie.

1:27:39

But

1:27:42

they're all kind of all the women are

1:27:44

saying

1:27:45

basically taunting him like you thought

1:27:48

you were trying to find a little girl, but

1:27:50

we found you and you're the

1:27:52

just the person we need. And answer

1:27:55

here is that they say we

1:27:58

needed someone who's connected

1:27:59

to us by blood and

1:28:02

so because I think this is why I couldn't have been

1:28:04

the pilot because they needed a man

1:28:06

that was related to them for

1:28:08

some reason for no reason that's not in

1:28:10

the original and it's yeah

1:28:13

I don't know why so which so everyone

1:28:16

actually is her his daughter yeah

1:28:19

right yeah

1:28:20

but this is I'm glad we're talking about

1:28:22

the pilot again because I said we got to talk about it yes

1:28:24

the whole plan is

1:28:27

like it's it has

1:28:29

to be the case that he comes to the island he

1:28:32

has to be at the island for this

1:28:34

plan to happen right why are

1:28:36

they so mad at this pilot why they

1:28:38

mad at the pilot they need a question

1:28:39

great question hell

1:28:42

did they think he was gonna get there without a pilot

1:28:44

why didn't they walk

1:28:46

down to the dock be like hey there's

1:28:49

a guy that's gonna show up just bring him over

1:28:51

here and we're gonna do what we

1:28:53

need to do with him well so because there's another

1:28:55

answer of like not

1:28:57

now the pilot can like

1:28:59

he can reveal

1:29:01

that the guy was there and so maybe that's a loose

1:29:03

end for them but that's yeah they should

1:29:05

have framed killing the pilot

1:29:08

that would have been cleaner and said they and said

1:29:10

they were mad at the pilot for bringing him to the island

1:29:12

which is not does not make sense even though they

1:29:14

need him to be on the island

1:29:23

imagining

1:29:25

people in the editing room being like this

1:29:27

is I don't know how to work around this

1:29:32

that's probably most of this movie I'm

1:29:34

speaking of editing something very

1:29:36

crazy happens right now now

1:29:39

I was the most shocking part of the movie

1:29:41

for me I I know what you're about do you

1:29:43

watch it on Amazon Prime did you rent it on Prime yes

1:29:46

I did yeah same here wait I

1:29:48

did too okay well okay did

1:29:50

you notice a famous scene missing no

1:29:54

okay so everyone's all gathered

1:29:57

around him he has no bullets in his gun so they

1:29:59

he tries to fight them, but there's so

1:30:01

many of them, so they close in on him. And it

1:30:04

kind of cross fades into

1:30:07

them carrying

1:30:10

him away, but we're hearing the audio

1:30:12

of a scene

1:30:13

that was cut. Not

1:30:15

my legs. Oh no, my legs. Well

1:30:18

first he says, you bitches,

1:30:20

bitches, you bitches, this is murder and you're doing it

1:30:24

for nothing. Killing me will bring back

1:30:26

your goddamn honey.

1:30:29

And then we

1:30:31

hear

1:30:32

bone crunchy sound effects,

1:30:35

so we know what's happening going,

1:30:36

ow, my legs. Wait,

1:30:39

my legs. We're

1:30:40

not seeing any of this, we're just hearing it. We're

1:30:44

not seeing it, we're just seeing him being paraded

1:30:46

to a giant burning

1:30:48

man, like a wicker. And it's all voice

1:30:51

over. Yeah.

1:30:51

And then they

1:30:53

arrive at the titular

1:30:56

wicker man, huge, I

1:31:00

don't know what, I'm so bad at estimating

1:31:02

height. How tall do you think that is? 30 feet?

1:31:03

50, yeah 40, 50 feet maybe. 50 foot

1:31:08

high man

1:31:08

made out of sticks. Are we daytime this whole time,

1:31:11

by the way? I was kind of a... Oh yeah.

1:31:14

Almost the whole movie, almost the whole, there's a couple

1:31:16

of my scenes. Like he exhumes at

1:31:18

night, he chases the little girl

1:31:20

at night, but for the most part it's all daytime.

1:31:23

Also mid-summer vibes, but the whole breaking

1:31:25

the legs and burning him is

1:31:27

during the day.

1:31:28

It's a similar, I feel like, celebration. I

1:31:31

don't know if it's the exact same thing that

1:31:34

they would be doing in Sweden, but it's definitely

1:31:36

based on the same sort of like a daytime

1:31:39

festival tradition thing. So, but

1:31:42

yeah, so then they have carried him over

1:31:44

to this wicker man in a big burlap sack

1:31:46

and they open it and he's got a

1:31:48

face covered in bee stings. And

1:31:51

I think the most famous part of the

1:31:53

movie

1:31:54

is cut out of this

1:31:57

version. Even as he was getting pulled up, he eventually

1:31:59

gets struck.

1:31:59

up and pulled up the wicker man as it's burned.

1:32:02

And at this one, I'm still like, okay, but

1:32:04

he's gonna get cut down and they're gonna put bees around his head,

1:32:06

right? Yeah, when are the bees happening?

1:32:08

When's he gonna get the bees? So the famous line?

1:32:11

Yeah, yeah.

1:32:12

I was I thought when he was so

1:32:14

when he was running through that field and getting stung, I

1:32:17

was like, Wait a minute, is this the bee meme?

1:32:19

Like the famous?

1:32:19

Yeah, because the bee meme is he

1:32:22

has a mask on that you may have seen this he

1:32:24

has like a wicker basket

1:32:26

mask on his head and they're pulling

1:32:28

bees into the mask and he screams,

1:32:32

not the bees not the bees. The

1:32:34

bees not the bees.

1:32:35

Wait,

1:32:38

why don't they have it on Amazon Prime?

1:32:40

I googled it. It's

1:32:42

it's in the unrated version. And so

1:32:44

actually what we saw is the theatrical release.

1:32:47

So that meme is not

1:32:49

in the actual movie, like the theatrical

1:32:52

release of the movie. It's in the unrated.

1:32:53

Really shocking. It

1:32:55

was the most surprising part of the

1:32:57

movie for me. I was really surprised

1:32:59

and sad. Yeah. Is it rated PG-13? The theatrical

1:33:02

release version? I think. I

1:33:04

think. It must be. At worst.

1:33:06

At worst. Because there's no boobies. So

1:33:08

it doesn't seem that bad. Like even pouring

1:33:10

the bees doesn't seem

1:33:12

that bad. You know? No, maybe

1:33:14

the breaking of the legs and the lead up to

1:33:16

it is what was like the worst. I

1:33:18

did watch the scene on YouTube.

1:33:21

It is available on YouTube. There is a scene

1:33:23

of his legs being broken and then they

1:33:25

bring the bees afterwards.

1:33:28

But not

1:33:30

in this version. And he burns.

1:33:31

He burns and he dies. And that's

1:33:34

not

1:33:34

the end of the movie. And then a

1:33:36

whole new movie. Okay, wait,

1:33:38

wait, wait. Okay. Also,

1:33:40

I will say that

1:33:41

I think it is possible, although it

1:33:44

seems like your research said otherwise,

1:33:46

but I do think it is possible. There's like a reveal

1:33:49

of a blonde mom and a blonde daughter that

1:33:51

he goes like, oh, and so I think

1:33:53

it is supposed to be the people

1:33:55

from the beginning,

1:33:55

from the opening scene. It does. I

1:33:58

agree. I 100% agree.

1:33:59

And I would like,

1:34:01

well, it doesn't really make sense. But once again,

1:34:04

it was really hard for me to tell them apart.

1:34:06

So I maybe need to like look closer,

1:34:08

like zoom in. But the other thing that's really weird. So it's a

1:34:11

shot that looks like a reveal shot. Because

1:34:13

they're like taking off their animal masks and

1:34:15

you like see these people. However, in the shot

1:34:18

is like what seems featured. It was almost a three

1:34:20

shot with two little girls and a mom. So

1:34:23

that can also I was like, okay, now I'm

1:34:25

really confused. Too many blonde girls in this

1:34:27

movie. Yeah, really, really hard.

1:34:29

Really a lot. But it would make sense

1:34:31

if they never found their bodies. And but I

1:34:34

mean, it's a really elaborate plan to really

1:34:36

elaborate plan to be like, well, we

1:34:38

have to have him have how did they have this semi truck

1:34:40

drive into you guys have to survive the car.

1:34:43

Yeah, survive a car accident.

1:34:46

It doesn't it doesn't really make sense. But

1:34:48

and escape the premises immediately. And

1:34:50

also do a really good job play acting when

1:34:52

you when you see him. That's a huge

1:34:55

gamble to be like, yeah, you guys have to go and get

1:34:57

hit by a truck and the car has to explode. So

1:34:59

get up before then. But don't let him pull you out.

1:35:02

Yeah, yeah. Purpose being to give

1:35:04

him kind of like an extra motivation to go help

1:35:07

a child.

1:35:07

Like as if helping your ex fiance's

1:35:10

child wouldn't already be enough of a motivator.

1:35:13

Motivation.

1:35:14

It's like they didn't need that whole sequence.

1:35:16

But remember, it is deleted

1:35:18

to the title of the movie. Right. The

1:35:21

town. So it's important. Yeah. But, Emily,

1:35:23

we got to tell you that this him

1:35:25

burning is not the end of the movie. OK, what

1:35:27

do you need to tell me?

1:35:28

We still got James

1:35:31

Franco. Wait, what? Wait,

1:35:33

what?

1:35:34

Wait, what?

1:35:36

I'm going six months later and

1:35:39

it goes dark and then comes

1:35:41

back up on James Franco and

1:35:43

Jason Ritter. And I was like, what the fuck?

1:35:47

I said in my phone app, I went, wait

1:35:49

a minute. Is that? James Franco

1:35:52

and the guy from Parenthood. I couldn't remember

1:35:54

his name and he's in Parenthood. The

1:35:56

TV

1:35:56

series. I wish it was there in that

1:35:58

guard now. So

1:36:01

much better. They're at a bar.

1:36:02

Yeah, they're at a bar and

1:36:05

They like pick up these two chicks

1:36:07

who are Women

1:36:09

from the island

1:36:10

Willow Willow and Lely are

1:36:13

there. Yeah,

1:36:14

and they're like hey

1:36:16

We want to be killed in eight years

1:36:26

Pretty jarring Jari,

1:36:28

we wait. So they're picking them

1:36:31

up. Yeah, they're on the mainland

1:36:33

I guess like hunting for men

1:36:35

and then you put James Franco and

1:36:37

James Ritter are the men and they pick them up and

1:36:40

they're gonna what go like get impregnated

1:36:42

by them and then have and

1:36:44

then leave Really playing

1:36:46

the fucking long game this colony

1:36:49

just have their babies and then

1:36:52

lure them back several

1:36:54

years later Okay,

1:36:58

yeah and then

1:37:01

Before the credits it says

1:37:03

for Johnny Ramon.

1:37:06

I just that also threw me

1:37:11

Confusing

1:37:20

things happening in the last eight

1:37:23

minutes of this movie. I was what what what?

1:37:27

Wow Wow

1:37:30

for you Johnny Ramon this

1:37:32

one's for you It

1:37:37

says in the IMDB trivia

1:37:40

that

1:37:41

Nicholas Cage Knew

1:37:44

him hold on Just

1:37:47

a guy I knew that passed away Film

1:37:50

is dedicated to late musician Johnny

1:37:52

Ramon who introduced Nicholas Cage

1:37:55

to Robin Hardy's

1:37:56

original The Wicker Man

1:37:59

Oh,

1:38:01

really strange though. Still,

1:38:03

this one's for you. Nicholas Cage gets

1:38:05

full creative ownership over this film being like,

1:38:08

I, you know, I first watched

1:38:10

this with Johnny Ramon. And so I

1:38:12

want to put at the end his

1:38:14

name. That

1:38:17

is that movie lived

1:38:19

up to all of my expectations, honestly.

1:38:22

Same here. Do you think you'll watch it?

1:38:24

I would watch it for sure if it

1:38:26

was

1:38:27

on at a party in the background.

1:38:29

Yeah, that's right. This

1:38:32

is a perfect movie to have on

1:38:34

in the background at a party.

1:38:36

I loved it. I

1:38:39

was reminded about the existence of Lilly Sobieski.

1:38:42

That was the main thing. What is she up to?

1:38:45

I looked her up and yeah, not she's not been

1:38:47

doing much lately.

1:38:48

What's she in like first kiss? She's

1:38:51

been right. Yeah,

1:38:52

yeah, yeah. Never been kissed.

1:38:53

Never been cast. That's right.

1:38:55

I feel like she played Joan of Arc. That's popping in

1:38:57

my mind. Oh, I don't.

1:38:59

Those are two

1:39:00

huge movies. Deep Impact.

1:39:02

That's really important. Oh,

1:39:04

Deep Impact scared the shit out

1:39:07

of me.

1:39:07

This movie is not scary.

1:39:09

No, it just has jump scares

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