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Welcome to the Tony and Ryan podcast.

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My name is Ryan. This is Dr.

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Author Tony Lodge. Welcome. We are calling

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Buffalo in New York. Buffalo Soldier.

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And we're calling Hannah, who has

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a pretty random job. Let's give her a buzz. Buffalo

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sauce that came from Buffalo, New York. Did you know

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that? We've recently learned this, yes? Oh,

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we're eating wings at a hotel. Eat

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one hand. Chicken Wang?

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Hello. Hannah!

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Hannah, it's Tony and Ryan. How you doing?

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Good. How are you? We're good. We

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just learned that Buffalo sauce comes from

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Buffalo, New York. Yes,

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it does. Yes, it does. And congratulations for

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being from there. Yeah, that's a real achievement.

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Hannah, I've got a question about

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your occupation. I believe you're

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an aerial artist and I want to know

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what the hell that means. Like a pilot.

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Not like a pilot. So, do you

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know like the Cirque du Soleil artists

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that like hang from fabric from the

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ceiling? Like pink. Yeah.

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Yeah, like pink. That's what

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I do. I teach it. I perform it

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locally. Oh my God. That's

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incredible. Yeah. Oh, there's no

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way how chicken wins. I'm actually

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in a production this weekend doing that. Oh, that's crazy.

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Do you think, because Tony's tried a lot

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of things, stand up paddle boarding. She got

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a... I'm collecting experiences. Yeah,

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she's got the, what are the walking things in

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the home called again? The treadmills at home. Treadmills.

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I did roller derby ones. Roller derby. Do you

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think being an aerial artist is like a fun

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hobby that Tony could, you know, be like a

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little 2024 project? Oh

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yeah, definitely. I would say give it a

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try. Everyone can start. Everyone can

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give it a try. I think it's really fun.

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That's a point today. You don't have to get

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super far off the ground. your

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core must be insane. Yeah. It's

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core and a lot of upper body as well. I bet. Well

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I've got another. They're our weaknesses. I actually just

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go from boobs to fanny. There's

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no core. No core involved. I actually think that

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I had it removed as a child.

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Because I don't think I have

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one. Um Hannah, will you approve

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today's episode? Of

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course I'll approve today's episode. You can

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do that from the air. Yeah. Hey

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it's Hannah from Buffalo New York and I approve

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this podcast. I

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would like everyone to know that there's a calamity in

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the office and carnage has broken out. A

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calamity? I like that. Honey has spent

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three weeks in Canva making a

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big, what I'm going to say is

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a passive aggressive sign. No, no, no, no. I

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would take that it took me a long time. It says, is

3:05

it Monday? If so,

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could you put the bin out? That is not

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what it fucking says. And you know that.

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It says, is it Monday?

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Is it Monday? Can

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you please put out the bin? And look, it's got

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a happy little bin on there. How

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could you take that in a nasty way? Uh,

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yeah, it's the exclamation mark for me.

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Is it Monday? Is it Monday? No,

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no, no, no. See, you're doing that thing that I do. You're

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reading that how you want to take that. That's up

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to you. So, but the calamity is that we've

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realised that putting the bin out on the Monday

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is the wrong day. It's actually Tuesday. Tuesday. Yeah.

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And so what's going to happen to the sign? Well, we're just discussing

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it. Um, whether I just cross it out

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on right Tuesday or whether we can look

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at that and just remember, maybe that's

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an option. And I'm crossing it out. We'll just remind

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you for the rest of the time. We're in this

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space that you made a mistake. Yeah. And

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we've found like a five year lease. So that's. That's

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not good. I think that I'm

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going to remake it, though it did pop

4:05

the poster into the thread so that people

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can see it. But as you can see,

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it's like a gradient kind of vibe. So

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I actually took a lot of ink. To

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print, yeah. I reckon that one

4:16

print job, it would have been cheaper for you

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to call the council and get them to build

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a sign. Or change the bin day. Maybe

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it would be worth it. All that colour printing.

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It's because we're right on the

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line of like two bin days. Yeah. So

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maybe we could just have some... And the line of

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different councils has been a calamity. It has. It's

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taken us a long time to even get a bin.

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We had a printer before we had a bin.

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I'm going to have to also make some adjustments

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because I have been making a rebuttal sign. Cat,

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why? Why? Because your... Is

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it a nice sign? Yours says, is it Monday? How about

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put the bin out? And mine

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says, is it Tuesday to Friday? How about Munch

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fucking business? So I'm

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going to have to say, is it Monday,

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not Tuesday, but maybe Wednesday, Thursday or Friday?

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Um, James. It is all good. James, I

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have a question for you. How do you read, please tell

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us, how do you read that? Like when you look at

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it, do you think, is it Monday? Don't put

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the kids in between mum and dad. There's an

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exclamation mark. Yeah. Yeah. There's

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a lot of exclamation marks. That's aggressive. I mean,

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exclamation marks is in like, nice, nice,

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nice. When I use one, I'm like,

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wow, my, my, my. That's

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not how it comes across. Well, that's your

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fucking problem. And you and

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James can fuck off. See, the

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aggressive aggression is coming through.

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All right. Tomorrow on the show. No,

5:36

we haven't done this one yet. Tomorrow

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on the show, because today's looking

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pretty full. There's

5:43

some more housekeeping issues.

5:45

And Tony, you've said you are the head

5:47

of HR. Yes, I am. Uh,

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you said you actually have tomorrow off. You

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are. You are

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the chief first aid officer. Yes, I

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am. Uh, and so there's, and the

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first aid kit apparently is. come in quite

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handy. Would you say considering those two

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other things, it would be assumed that you're

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also in charge of OH&F? Yeah,

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I can do that because I'm also in charge of people

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and culture, which is quite nice. Like

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you know, like setting up fun things for the office, haven't

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done any of that yet. You guys, sorry, it's not very

6:17

fun. Isn't it funny how Head

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of HR isn't called that anymore? People

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and culture. Yeah, yeah. Are feelings

6:25

and performance? They actually should change it to like

6:27

protecting the company and not you. Sorry,

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that past traumas, everyone heard it.

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Yeah, HR work for the company, they don't work for the people. And

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you know what? When I realised that my

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literal life changed. Yeah. Because

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I thought that HR was for me. No. It's

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fucking not. No, it's not. It's for the big

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stuff. I don't think they pretended to be. But I just assumed

6:48

that because they're like, you can talk to us about

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anything. I thought it was like a little therapy moment.

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No, no, no. It's not. They're

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writing everything down and they send it to your boss and

6:56

then your boss goes, what the fuck? You

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remember the place that we worked and they

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had that anonymous phone line, you could call

7:05

and ask for advice and you wouldn't know

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who it was or whatever? Yeah, but they always know.

7:09

They always know. Yeah. So

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you go, okay, you call the line. Hi,

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I'm just having a... Or you have to call them first. Oh,

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beep boop, beep boop, beep boop. Oh, sorry, I've managed

7:19

to type a beep boop, beep boop.

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Oh, fucking hell. Sorry, I didn't put

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the area code in. It's 1-300-HELP-IN-THE-WORKPLACE.

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1-300-HELP-IN-THE-WORKPLACE. Hello, anonymous HR tips.

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I'm on hold. Hello. Hi,

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I'm actually just... Oh, hey, Tony. Are

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you coming to the work drinks on Friday?

7:34

I thought this was anonymous because

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I'm just having a few problems with my...

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Oh, it is. Oh, it is.

7:42

Oh, it is. Oh, I'm just... Oh,

7:44

I'm just... Oh, I'm just... Oh, I'm

7:46

just... Oh, I'm just... Oh,

7:48

I'm just... Oh, I'm just... Yeah,

7:51

please, tell me all about it. What's his

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name? His name is... Just Moaning. I'd be

7:55

like mine. Oh, shit! Singing,

8:00

you know who it is? Um,

8:03

so Tony, um, tell

8:06

me what is the anonymous problem? Um,

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well anonymously, um, I feel

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like this maybe isn't anonymous. So I think it's actually

8:13

fine and we get along great. Well that's not

8:15

what he said about you. Oh, at the work

8:17

drinks last Friday night wasn't it? Oh

8:19

that little bitch. Yeah. Yeah,

8:22

so never anonymous. Never anonymous. No.

8:25

Um. Should we do normal or

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no? Let's do normal or no. I'm just

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thinking that it's past now. No, no, no.

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It's here. Normal or past? Normal or past.

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Um, no, let's do normal or no. Thanks

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to everyone for submitting them in the Tony

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and Ryan Facebook group or thetonyandryan.com.au. Do

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you think that we've just besmirched the good name

8:43

of people in HR? Like, cause I

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feel like, do you pitch that? They don't have a good name. But do you

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think that people in HR believe that they're

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like, they are for the people? There

8:52

are. Cause I reckon there would be companies

8:54

that it is more good than the fuck

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of work they work. I think they're

8:58

good people. Yeah. But I think the concept

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of they work for the company. But here's the thing.

9:03

But that's what I didn't understand. But if the people

9:05

are happy and that means they're performing well, that is

9:07

good for the company. So there is a

9:09

middle ground. Yeah. I don't want

9:11

to explain to you guys what a Venn diagram

9:13

is. No, you wouldn't. Because I wouldn't. And I

9:15

definitely haven't done that in the past. You would

9:17

never man flame a fucking Venn diagram. But

9:20

there is. I'm so pumped to HR about that.

9:22

There is some crossover where it can be beneficial.

9:25

In a perfect world, which is rare, but in a perfect

9:27

world. Yeah. Normal enough. Normal

9:30

enough. Vicki Evans has a normal enough. Vicki

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you. Vicki

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you. Dunking your biscuit in someone else's cup of

9:38

tea. What? Vicki

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says. Call fucking HR. Vicki

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says not sure if it's just a British

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issue, but my fellow thinks it's okay to

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dunk his biscuit in my tea. It's

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a big fucking nah from me. I

9:56

have never heard such

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a violation. In all my dust. I

10:03

think it's bad enough when you've got your own

10:05

crummies at the bottom of your cup, let alone

10:07

someone else's. I haven't even

10:09

gotten to enjoy the little soggy little warm biscuit,

10:11

but I've got to deal with the crummies.

10:15

If... And the answer might be

10:17

never. But how long, like

10:19

how tight a bond you have to be

10:21

before you start dunking in their juice. You

10:24

have to have done anal. I

10:28

think if you've done anal with someone, then

10:31

that would allow this kind of conversation to

10:34

come up. You don't have to say yes

10:36

because you've already done anal. You've already given them

10:38

quite a bit. But

10:40

I think that if you've done anal,

10:42

you can be open to the situation.

10:44

So you and I... Yeah, I was going

10:46

to say. So Tony and I would have had

10:48

hours and hours where I could have dunked my

10:50

teeth. So

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Vicki, you let us know whether it's okay.

11:00

Oh, I get you. Yeah, rebuttal question. Yeah, so

11:02

you let us know. I

11:04

think that is just... That is... That's over

11:06

the line, surely. That's a lot.

11:09

Would you ever... With

11:11

you again? No. You

11:14

know what I did the other day, which was like

11:16

really nice and naughty. Got that tattoo on the lower

11:18

back change. Dunking

11:22

my teeth. No. No.

11:28

You are now welcome. I've got a

11:30

stamp system on my lower back. Yeah,

11:32

tense one phrase. Tense one is

11:34

teeth, actually. Dunking my teeth.

11:36

No, I had a little... There were some Tim Tams

11:38

in the fruits. They've been in there for ages. I

11:41

think Torbs and I are playing chicken on who's going to

11:43

eat them because you know when there's only a couple left and

11:45

you go, oh, I won't. Because you'll

11:47

know that then I've... And

11:49

I made a coffee. It was like 3pm, which is

11:51

like... You'll be up all night. Oh, no. Bridget

11:54

said that because I was threatening to make affogatos last

11:57

weekend because we got some nice ice cream and I

11:59

went... What do they call? What do

12:01

they call? I forgot. Sorry. Yeah,

12:05

that you should have done it. That's nummy. And

12:08

then later she's like, Oh, you mentioned avocados before. And she said

12:10

that at five o'clock. And I was like, How

12:13

come you would never drink a coffee past four,

12:15

but you'd have an espresso martini as Because

12:18

you're a fuckhead. And I

12:20

mean, the royal you. Yeah. Yeah.

12:23

But also Bridget could just pound coffee and go to sleep,

12:25

but I'll be up all night. It's actually not as bad

12:27

as I used to be, but I also drink more

12:29

coffee now than I ever have in my life. Because

12:31

you've got a coffee machine at home and you just live in the

12:33

dream. But we also have a little routine now where

12:35

we have a coffee in the morning. Anyway, the other day,

12:38

I had a coffee at 3pm and

12:40

a little Tim Tam double coat. And I

12:42

did the little Tim Tam slam. Yeah. I have

12:44

like crumbled a little biscuit in my mouth. It

12:46

was really good. Got it. Yeah.

12:49

It was really, really good. This is a bit dark, but I

12:52

think it can be an uplifting and

12:54

positive chat. Oh, great. This is

12:56

from Greer Berry. Hi Greer. Normal

12:59

or not, having a Spotify playlist

13:01

that you compile for your funeral.

13:05

Oh, so it's like a bit more of a to talk

13:07

about, but don't you think the worst

13:09

way to go out is some other asshole

13:12

playing his tune? Yeah. Or

13:14

they, you know, accidentally hit shuffle and Barbie Girl starts

13:16

playing. You know, what a

13:18

drama. Yeah. I'm going

13:20

to go. These are my favorite songs.

13:22

These are how I want to be remembered.

13:25

When I die, here's the playlist. Off

13:27

you go. I'm going to

13:29

say normal. I don't have one

13:31

for me, but I've got a selection of

13:33

songs for talks. Are you

13:35

planning something? No, I just know that

13:37

like in that

13:39

moment, I'll probably be so beside myself

13:42

that I won't think about all of the

13:44

things that I want to do and say.

13:47

Or if I'm gone, I don't trust

13:49

anybody else to plan his funeral the way that

13:52

I could. No one knows him the

13:54

way that I do. So I've definitely thought

13:56

about what songs for him. Are you willing to

13:58

share one? One is

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weight by M83, which if you know that

14:02

song it is so fucking depressing

14:06

But it's really really beautiful

14:08

What do you think about the con? You know

14:10

how sometimes people? Go up. It's

14:12

not a funeral. It's a celebration of life and

14:14

they yeah They kind of want it to be

14:16

like really positive and share all the great moments

14:19

Do you did the playlist after reflects that but

14:21

I think there's still some like Moments

14:24

of reflection. I don't

14:26

think it's a party the whole time I think

14:28

you still need I think it's more that the

14:31

wake should be happier than bad Like

14:33

you make sure if I pass

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away. Yeah bless God God

14:37

forbid is what you say not God bless

14:44

If I pass away God bless If

14:49

I pass away bless you Um

14:55

Kung fu fighting maybe maybe not. Yeah, that's

14:57

in my maybe pile for you Nicki Minaj

14:59

and Justin Bieber beauty in a baby in

15:01

the beat because people go what's two things

15:03

about Ryan? I go beauty beat. What's

15:06

the beat refer to just fear crushing

15:08

beats? Yeah, okay Yep

15:16

add it to the playlist Sophie's writing it down we got

15:18

it I There's

15:23

a topic called suit here I say

15:25

and that's not a level of patreon

15:27

that is her name Fuck

15:30

how long do you work on that for Jesus

15:33

God bless button

15:35

fucking hell achoo Fuckin

15:45

hell we're off that Likda. Okay. Yep.

15:48

Soo Tia has no wanna see soo

15:51

dear. Oh, no Yeah,

15:56

hi, soo Bless

16:00

you! Bless you? Hey, that's my joke.

16:03

Don't say that, I'll see you. I'm so sorry. You know

16:05

what I feel like after this? Sushi? I'm sure

16:07

I'm a Sushi. Everybody was kum-su-fi. Oh, here we

16:13

go. I'm

16:17

sorry. Bless

16:22

you. Bless

16:27

you. I

16:32

just found out some people read the

16:37

end of the book first

16:39

to see if it's worth reading. Surely there's

16:41

nothing normal about

16:44

this, says Sue. I'm

16:51

a nah for this. I

16:57

don't really, I don't even like reading any

16:59

of the next page. Like if I'm stopping, I

17:01

will shut the book or turn my Kindle off

17:04

before I even see what's at the beginning of

17:06

the next chapter. No spoilers. Because I

17:08

just really, otherwise I go, oh, what's going

17:10

to happen? And especially if it's a really

17:12

good book. Yeah. But

17:14

reading the last like little bit, I'm like,

17:16

oh, what?

17:20

Yeah, what? Yeah. It's

17:23

like, it's a murder mystery, Steve did it. Yeah,

17:25

I think also being like, oh, to try and figure out

17:27

whether you like it, you will find that out from the

17:29

beginning of the book too. Yeah, the author made a choice

17:32

of which order to write it in. Yeah.

17:35

So you know how I used to work with Rosie? Yes. Rosie

17:37

used to read the last page of a book because

17:40

she's like, oh, if I die, I want to know

17:42

how to end. But often the ending

17:44

isn't on the last part. Yeah, it's usually

17:46

like that's mopping up. Yeah,

17:48

like that's normally just like, and they all

17:50

live halfway ever after or whatever. It's

17:53

not normally like, there's not a

17:55

quick fucking cliff notes

17:57

on what happened in the book. Again,

18:00

a Norbert question. But imagine you

18:03

on your deathbed. A terrible accident

18:06

has occurred. Oh, don't. A tragedy.

18:08

God bless. Those wasps in your

18:10

roof have attacked you. The killer

18:12

bees. My

18:15

roof is haunted, I think. It really is. Yeah.

18:17

And so they go on a stinging spree, and

18:22

you're about to die, and you've got 15 seconds left,

18:24

and you're like, oh my God. And then you go, Todd,

18:26

how did that book finish? Like, is that going

18:29

to be? No. You know what I mean? No,

18:31

no, no. I feel like things like books and

18:33

movies are a real condiment of life. I don't think

18:35

it's something that like, it's not

18:37

in your hot dog. Like,

18:39

if we think about life as a hot dog. Yeah, but

18:42

we've talked about anal. Now you're talking about hot dogs.

18:44

I'm just lost. Oh, sorry. But like, if you think

18:46

about life as a hot dog, and then the condiments of

18:48

life, like things that you enjoy it, like if you're on

18:50

your deathbed and someone hands you a hot dog, you're not

18:52

going to go, do you have any tomato sauce? Like, you're

18:54

going to be like, yeah, I need this sustenance. Well,

18:56

okay, there's a lot to unpack here. Well, maybe. A

18:58

hot dog without tomato sauce

19:01

is save the fucking hot dog. Okay. All

19:03

right. Not your deathbed, because you probably would ask

19:05

for tomato sauce, because you're like, this is the last time

19:07

you're ever going to eat. Yeah. What if you've been in

19:09

the desert? God bless. Like, let's hope this doesn't happen. But

19:11

you've been in the desert for eight days, haven't eaten anything.

19:13

Someone hands you a hot dog, you're not going to go,

19:15

do you have any tomatoes? I would ask that. No, you

19:17

wouldn't. If the ad does not go okay, but like next

19:19

time. No, you wouldn't even ask. So, I think

19:21

that book's and stuff. They're not the same. So, what

19:23

is the sausage of life? I probably

19:25

want Torb's there. He is my

19:27

sausage of life. He

19:32

can dunk his biscuit in my teeth. That's

19:36

what I think. Hey,

19:41

it's Hannah from Buffalo, New York, and you're listening

19:43

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20:37

We need to have a snake off. Yeah.

20:39

So you can check that out. A

20:42

snake off. I've

20:44

got a challenge for you this weekend. For

20:47

me. For you and everyone listening is a challenge.

20:49

I want you to drop into a conversation this

20:51

weekend. The Streisand Effect. What's

20:53

that? Do

20:55

you not know about the Streisand Effect? No.

20:58

Like Barbra Streisand. Yeah. It's

21:00

a big, it's an online phenomenon. And it's

21:02

happening right here in Australia. Yeah. If

21:05

you drop this at like a dinner party or at a bar,

21:07

people will be like, Oh, that guy's really interesting. That's really. And

21:09

if you're on a date and you drop this, I reckon they'll

21:11

go, Oh, this guy's smart and got substance. But you're doing about

21:13

it now and I don't think you're smart. Like

21:18

we don't know what it is.

21:20

But then how am I going to drop it into the government?

21:23

I'm going to tell you what it is. But like,

21:25

but then even people that

21:27

I'm talking about, then I then have to explain that they're going

21:29

to be as bored as us. No,

21:32

but the explaining is the thing. It sounds like you

21:34

want me to read the last page of the book

21:36

before I. So the

21:38

Streisand Effect. Oh my God, you're so interesting.

21:44

I love it already. I

21:49

hate this. I

21:51

regret everything. We got silly early on

21:54

and then the

21:56

Streisand Effect is when

21:58

you try to hide or remove. something from

22:00

the public eye. But in

22:03

trying to hide it or remove it, you

22:05

actually draw more attention to it. And

22:07

thus the opposite of what you want occurs.

22:09

You're talking about fucking Gina Reinhardt. Well,

22:13

not fucking Gina Reinhardt. Cause

22:16

as I was saying, there's been a lot of

22:18

Streisand effects in the public

22:20

eye. Let me give you the original,

22:22

which is Barbara Streisand herself, which is

22:24

why it's coined that. And then we'll

22:26

get into Australian mining magnate, Gina Reinhardt.

22:28

And how the ultimate backfire and the

22:31

ultimate Streisand effect has taken place. Yeah.

22:35

Yeah. So Barbara Streisand, how

22:38

successful? Like in the 80s and up, huge,

22:40

right? But still now, Mika Fokker's great film.

22:42

Great film. She's a good actor. She is

22:44

amazing. A good comedy actor. And just

22:46

back in the day, like she was, she did

22:49

the original like Star is Born. You know, the

22:51

one with Lady Gaga. Yeah. The original one is

22:53

her. Yeah, right. Yeah. And

22:55

so like she's done everything. Have you seen

22:57

Beaches? No. I can't. I

22:59

can't do it. What's that? Her and

23:03

Bette Midler. Yeah. The

23:05

wings beneath my wind. Yeah. So

23:09

very successful, done very well for herself.

23:11

And she actually lives in

23:13

this cliff top mansion in Malibu. That's

23:16

like on top of the cliff, overlooking

23:18

the ocean. Like, you know, just the

23:20

most beautiful Malibu, California house. Incredible. Right.

23:23

Oh, beautiful. Yeah. Incredible.

23:26

And every few

23:28

years, now this is the real

23:30

boring part. No, I'm with you. Every

23:34

few years, the Department of Conservation

23:37

flies a helicopter along the coast of

23:40

California and takes photos of the cliffs

23:42

so they can document coastal

23:44

erosion. Yeah. So they compare to last

23:46

time, go, oh, geez, there's a bit of

23:49

crumbling. We might have to support that

23:51

and blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Like pretty normal

23:53

kind of Department of Conservation stuff. Super

23:55

normal. So it turns out in one of

23:57

the photos, you can see Barbara Streisand's house.

24:00

because she's got this cliff top mansion. Yeah, but

24:02

seeing someone's house doesn't mean you know. Oh,

24:05

sorry. Well, yeah. So

24:07

in two years, that photo

24:10

was downloaded four times.

24:13

Right? Yeah. But Barbara Streisand.

24:15

So it's publicly available, like people can see it.

24:18

Yeah, but it's like, and it's known as image 18472

24:21

or something, because there's literally the

24:23

whole coastline of fucking California. But

24:25

Barbara Streisand finds out that her house is on

24:27

there. And she goes, well,

24:30

I'm going to sue the Department of Conservation

24:32

for taking a photo and publishing my

24:34

house. Now I remind you, four

24:36

people had downloaded it and they might

24:38

not even know it was Barbara Streisand's house. Like you

24:40

don't know it's her house. Just saying a house doesn't

24:42

mean you know anything about it. But if

24:44

Barbara Streisand is suing a government department,

24:47

can you imagine the brouhaha that took

24:49

place back in the day? Especially

24:51

with like the Department

24:54

of Conservation. Yeah. The

24:58

Department of Conservation. People are like, oh, well,

25:00

do you not care about nature? Yeah. So

25:03

they're piping up. Yeah. She's piping

25:05

up. She's trying to sue for a million bucks. So

25:07

it's in all of the newspapers. And the

25:09

thing that was downloaded four times ended up

25:11

being downloaded 420,000 times, spread across

25:15

the papers, TMZ, the news and blah, blah, blah.

25:18

And keep in mind, the goal of this was

25:20

for people to not see the image. Or

25:22

not know where she lived. Yeah. People

25:25

went from not much

25:27

to millions and thus the

25:29

Streisand effect is born. Oh,

25:33

you'd be so gutted though, because you'd be like, oh,

25:35

if I don't say something, what if it gets out

25:37

anyway? So I get what she's trying to get out

25:39

ahead of her. She wrote a book later,

25:41

like a bit of a memoir. Yeah. And

25:44

she's like, oh, like, as

25:46

time would have it, like if I had my chance again, I

25:48

just would not have done that because it

25:50

backfired and I just was a bit protective. But

25:53

in the end. I actually understand. Oh, I get

25:55

it. But the result is so

25:57

much worse. And people probably have like

25:59

a. really different idea of

26:02

her now. Yeah. You know, they go, Oh, well that was

26:04

really uncool for him. I'm like, Oh, but if you're, she's

26:07

been around, she's that famous. She would definitely have had

26:09

like a stalker or two in her time. Yeah, she

26:11

had a couple. Do you know what I mean? So it's not

26:14

as if, um, like, do

26:16

you know what I'm like, it's not as if she wouldn't

26:18

be like, well, that obviously can't get out. Yeah. But

26:22

now she kind of reflects and go fuck, I wish I could

26:24

do it. Should have just shut the fuck up, maybe. So

26:26

I wouldn't mind having an effect named after me though.

26:29

The lodge effect. Like, like that would

26:31

feel pretty good. What would the lodge effects be? Haven't

26:34

decided yet. Shouldn't people say what they

26:36

think it would be? Maybe

26:39

not. No,

26:44

I think we'll go with it. Okay. If the

26:46

lodge effect was something, what would it be? Put it

26:48

in today's episode thread in the Facebook group. But

26:53

as you alluded to earlier, and I've got the picture just to

26:55

remind you that, uh, Australian

26:57

mining magnate Gina Rynach, she's Australian,

26:59

which is person. Um,

27:03

just have a look at that picture. So, uh,

27:05

quite a famous Australian

27:07

Aboriginal artist has painted

27:10

her portrait. Yep. Um,

27:15

in fairness, it

27:17

actually doesn't really,

27:19

like, it does look like her, but

27:22

I understand why she's

27:24

like, Oh, well it's not maybe a great expression.

27:26

So she said, I want it taken out

27:28

of the national gallery because I don't want

27:30

people to see it. Yeah. Now, obviously if

27:32

you're going to the gallery, you would have

27:34

seen it, but for the 99.9% of

27:38

people not going to the gallery this month, we would

27:40

have never have known about it and never have heard

27:42

about it and she's made a big stink about not

27:44

wanting to see it. And now

27:47

we're talking about it. It's all over the

27:49

news. And not only is it everyone in

27:51

Australia seeing it. It's actually

27:53

ended up on the Colbert, the

27:56

US late night talk show. Have a listen in

27:58

news from down under a. billionaire has

28:00

called for the removal of an unflattering

28:03

portrait of her from the

28:05

national gallery of australia the woman in

28:07

question is a controversial

28:09

australian mining billionaire named gina

28:11

reinhardt seen here but

28:14

i mean come on how unflattering could

28:16

this portrait possibly okay okay

28:19

okay i gotta say uh... i'm

28:23

no part expert but in this portrait i

28:25

believe the artist really captured her and

28:28

at the moment she saw

28:30

this portrait because

28:33

she does look like she's just taking a shit and

28:36

someone's walking to the room and she's going

28:38

she looks quite shocked yeah and she's got

28:40

a bit of a frown on and the

28:42

photo you've shown next to it objectively we're

28:45

not talking about who she is what she

28:47

does we're talking objectively just about this just

28:49

looks like a nice old lady it's quite a nice

28:51

photo of her on the right hand side that you've

28:53

compared it to it was also in

28:55

a on a billboard in new york times

28:58

the other guy find me because it was

29:00

like the leading story and yet

29:02

someone goes off doesn't want to see it was pop it up there just

29:05

crazy a uh... so

29:10

you saying that that the strident effect in

29:12

the effort of her trying to make sure

29:14

no one saw it abelian maybe

29:17

we've been reverse psychology she's

29:19

like no i don't want anyone to say it and

29:24

she's got my dream is to be on call but yeah but

29:28

i don't want anyone to say it but

29:30

quickie uh... uh... that is a

29:33

that is smart i mean she's not such

29:36

press as bad press or whatever that's saying you

29:38

know ryan hardy is a strategic lady

29:40

she plays the long game she is

29:42

the richest person in Australia yeah i

29:44

can't do you know what sorry to put you on the spot do

29:47

you know what her net worth is jet

29:49

light billions yeah uh... just to put

29:51

it into context of life thirty one billion

29:53

u.s. thirty one billion u.s.

29:58

what's your net worth danny literally

30:00

this iPhone and this half drunk smoothie. Have

30:03

you paid out your iPhone? No, I actually haven't. Just

30:07

a smoothie there. Just a smoothie there, yeah. Finally,

30:11

there's been another great piece of

30:13

the Australian effect in Australia. There

30:16

was this book, it's called Same Sex Parents.

30:18

Yeah. And it was in a

30:20

public library in Sydney and you

30:22

know the fucking, what are they called? Bubble

30:25

fudge heads. Yeah. They're

30:28

like, we can't have that in a children's

30:30

library, heaven forbid, blah, blah, blah, blah. We

30:33

want to get it banned. Now, I did

30:35

a little digging. I've done some investigative research.

30:39

Hello. So this has

30:41

been all over the news in Australia,

30:43

especially in Sydney. Because they're saying like book

30:45

banning in this day, like are you fucking

30:47

for real? I think it's crazy. The

30:50

people that are crazy for free speech are the ones that

30:52

are always trying to ban shit. Yeah.

30:54

So people should be like open

30:57

to that or saying that. I'm like, why not?

30:59

Some people have a mum and dad, some just have a mum,

31:01

some just have a dad, some have two dads, some have two

31:03

mums who really give a fuck. That

31:07

was beautiful. Thank you.

31:09

We're going to get banned. Yeah. For

31:11

you saying that. I've done some research.

31:15

In the last five years. Yeah.

31:18

Guess how many times that book's been borrowed and taken

31:20

out of the library? Oh, 30? Once.

31:24

Oh. And

31:27

guess what's on the front pages now and getting spread

31:29

out and it's become an Amazon best seller. Well,

31:32

how'd that fucking go for you? Suck

31:34

my dick. The people who are trying to get

31:36

banned. No, but they wouldn't. They wouldn't. They

31:38

wouldn't. They wouldn't. That's the

31:40

devil's activity. That's the devil's dick. But

31:42

same thanks parents by Holly Dole-gug. Do

31:47

your own research on that one obviously. Dude,

31:50

Holy Dude. Fuck. I'm

31:53

on my high horse as well and I really just fucked that. No,

31:55

no, no. I think it's too good. I

31:57

think the fact that people are trying to close it down has just

31:59

made it more popular. Yeah, so Tony when

32:01

you're out this weekend and someone goes oh,

32:03

what's going on? You go? Oh, how's that

32:05

Barbara Streisand fish and they go What's

32:08

that? Tell me more and I'll be able to I'll have

32:10

the Technology

32:13

drinking we'll get you laid. Um By

32:18

my boyfriend Jimmy right on

32:20

him, okay, I know you guys are fighting them I'm

32:23

not fighting. Otherwise, we had one teeth one

32:26

teeth. He's not fighting. Okay. Well, you're only one

32:28

But I've just rise and effect away from bringing

32:30

it back. I Want

32:32

to know what the Tony Lodge effect would be? That's what I'm

32:34

that's what I'm I've

32:37

got a you love to see it here and maybe

32:40

this actually is my Tony Lodge effect Okay,

32:42

I got a message from Layla on Instagram

32:44

the other day. Hey tiny quick

32:46

question We've never messaged before so it went into

32:48

my request. Okay. Hey Tony quick question I just

32:50

bought a house in Thomas town our first house

32:52

Well, I'm Laila out

32:54

in the country near me know it's in the

32:56

north side though, and I thought

32:58

I'd ask the lawn Queen If

33:01

she has any recommendations for a mower

33:04

from bunnies and for

33:06

some local some local conditions

33:09

Because I know I know the land you in

33:11

the area. Yeah, I mean the area I know yeah,

33:13

well, even though my mower is not actually from bunnies

33:15

What's the kind of sand to not sand ratio of

33:17

the dirt around this in area mate? I

33:20

actually wouldn't get into it here We've

33:22

already bored people enough with the strides and effect. Yeah, yeah

33:25

I think you know, um, you want to get into that

33:27

we've talked about it privately. Yeah I

33:32

recommended a lawnmower to Layla, but I

33:34

wonder if maybe this is the Tony Lodge

33:37

effect You can't hear lawn without thinking Tony

33:39

Lodge Tony launch Yeah,

33:41

but thank you Layla for about the

33:44

lawn. I love to see that. I

33:46

saw it and I went for I

33:48

literally like in capital So

33:51

so so so on it to receive this message.

33:54

Yes, then didn't give her any information hear

34:00

it bye you

34:03

don't want her cutting

34:05

your grass you know it's a

34:07

secret family recipe

34:12

yeah you know if I'm

34:14

just giving out my lawnmower details who

34:16

knows anyone to turn up I

34:19

come into work tomorrow Laila sitting here I've

34:21

got something

34:26

that's a bit sad but then I've got another

34:28

thing to bring it back okay

34:31

this is from Emily got to the tarpa and

34:34

yeah sure she's got

34:36

to me because she started

34:38

the podcast from the start Oh Emily

34:41

that's huge Tony and

34:43

Ryan have you heard the news

34:45

that the Kiwi fish and chips in East Melbourne is

34:47

closed down tarp

34:51

historians will know that

34:54

the kranzke yeah deep fried kranzke

34:56

you have

34:58

previously spoken about this on the podcast and

35:00

I believe you actually stopped recording one day

35:02

mid episode to go to Kiwi fish and

35:04

chips and get a cheese kranzke before returning

35:07

we actually did and the video of Ryan

35:09

eating it is on our Facebook page you

35:11

got a scroll right down and

35:13

pornhub it's all over the place it's

35:15

very scary I'm just like that

35:18

like just took that kranzke

35:20

down it's shut down

35:23

you know what Tony Lodge

35:25

effect I moved away and

35:28

I moved away and so did you

35:33

and now I'm shut down I mean that doesn't

35:35

sound like a coincidence well coincidence shots

35:38

tomorrow we'll see if it makes an appearance that's

35:40

the Tony Lodge effect I keep the Kiwi

35:42

fish and chips open oh that's

35:45

actually that's a local sadness to hear

35:47

that that has shut down because that

35:49

was a great unrelated

35:51

news Preston fish and chips

35:53

boobing see

36:00

it from Holly Campbell. Hi Holly. We

36:02

travelled to Brisbane last weekend for Magic

36:04

Round of the NRL. One

36:06

of the hotel staff members asked my husband which team

36:08

we went for and I said, oh we go for

36:10

the dolphins. That's

36:15

the sound of the elevator in the hotel.

36:17

That actually sounded just like a dolphin,

36:20

don't you reckon? It's a lodge

36:22

effect. That

36:27

sounds just like a

36:29

dolphin. That was pretty

36:31

good. Are you

36:33

sure that's not being stuck in the elevator at the hotel? Sometimes

36:38

my talents really take my breath away.

36:40

I wish it would. That'd

36:46

be good. God bless. God bless. Heaven

36:48

forbid. After

36:52

we went out on Saturday, we came

36:54

back to the hotel room and

36:56

there was a handwritten note slid under the

36:58

door. Dear Mr Campbell,

37:00

welcome to the Four Points by Sheraton.

37:03

Please enjoy your stay with us, have

37:05

a great time and I hope the

37:07

dolphins play well tomorrow. Oh

37:09

that's so nice. And my love

37:11

to see it as well as

37:13

like Holly's here is just like a handwritten

37:16

note. Doesn't that just really make a

37:18

difference? And also remembering a little detail

37:20

of being like, oh I know that

37:22

that's your team and you're here to

37:24

watch them. That costs that bloke 30

37:27

seconds but what a difference. Just like you said remembering

37:29

a little tidbit. I think you feel really special. Yeah

37:32

and I just saw that and I was like next

37:34

time they're in town you know where they're gonna stay. Yeah

37:38

and we're all talking about it. I mean we're all talking about

37:40

it. The bomber's driving out of hotel.

37:44

That's a Holly's husband of...

37:47

Holly Campbell effect. Holly

37:50

Campbell. Um

37:57

all right. That's enough. I'm calling.

38:00

Tomorrow on the show, Coincidence Chat makes

38:02

a return. Please submit your shit Coincidences.

38:04

No good ones will be accepted. Yeah.

38:07

And also there's a no hate

38:09

to s issue. Oh yeah. And

38:11

uh, we need a name for

38:13

this place. I think- Carp Tower, we called

38:15

it the other day. But I

38:17

don't know if it's a tower enough. But that, I

38:19

think that, isn't that why it's funny? That it's

38:21

obviously not a tower. Yeah, but people don't know

38:23

it's not a tower. You

38:26

know what I mean? Yeah, I do. It could be ironic. Okay,

38:28

maybe we should put something maybe in Patreon.

38:31

Yeah, okay. People to name our office. But anyway,

38:33

there's no hate to s issue at tarp not

38:35

tower. You'll

38:38

get that tomorrow. Have a good day. Love you,

38:40

bye.