The murky origins of the heroes in a half shell. Also, what could TOFOP pitch to be featured at South by South-West? It turns out, nothing. The pair try to convince each other that 'nothing' is indeed 'something' and the result is an existential tailspin. Charlie wonders about opportunities lost, Wil reassures him that next year will be better. But the reality is big-dicked turtles could be as good as it gets.

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