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So let's just go ahead and rip the band-aid off
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here. I'm ending the
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podcast, which I think deserves
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some kind of an explanation. It's been
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seven and a half years, maybe
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slightly more. The
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truth is, the podcast has
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felt like a burden for
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a few years now. And I want to be clear, you
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are not a burden. You, the
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listener, has actually been
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like the second best thing that's ever happened
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to me in my life. The first is getting
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married. That was dope. But you're like
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a really close second. I started
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this podcast when I was 23, and
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it's been my entire adult
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life, since college. But
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the understanding I have of who I am
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as a person has changed dramatically.
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See, back when I first started, I
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was a hustle culture addict.
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I consumed everything. The
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grant cardones, the Gary V's, I was
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in it.
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I was listening to all the motivational videos.
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I was consuming non-stop,
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trying to develop this mindset
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of someone who could make it in this
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world. And some of those things that I was doing
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for myself at the time was working insanely
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hard.
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Like, insanely, insanely hard.
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I was setting clear goals. I was
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trying my best at literally everything
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I was doing. I was really putting in
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effort and time and energy to make it
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something. I was sacrificing sleep,
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like full-on sacrificing sleep,
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four hours a night, all of that. I was
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trying to improve my morning routine
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and waking up at 5 a.m. and doing
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all of the stuff, the cold showers, all of
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it. I was incredibly unhappy
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with my life. And I felt like I needed
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to work myself to the bone
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to create something better. And the interesting
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thing, thinking back on it now, I never once
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felt proud of myself at all. I
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was always so of deferring pride
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and happiness and joy to like
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some weird future achievement
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like oh I'll take a break or I'll
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I'll praise myself or whatever once I've
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done blank and then that goal post
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has always pushed. I've talked about this
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on the show before. Now here's the thing,
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looking back I cannot say with
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good conscience that that doesn't
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work. My life has changed dramatically
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in part because of those things in
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no small part but I've also had
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a lot of realizations in
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the seven almost eight years since. See
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back in 2017 when my dad died it kind
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of like shattered
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my sense of reality and my sense of self. It
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was this like sobering reality
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check that no matter what I
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had done, no matter how successful I was,
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no matter how rich I was at the time, I
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was powerless. There was
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nothing I could have done to change that outcome. But
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it led me to ask a really important question,
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one that I'm so incredibly grateful
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I had the opportunity to ask was
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I going to spend my entire life living
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for someone else? One of the things that
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this journey made me realize both
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hosting the podcast and then having
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this sort of like reality check. Majority
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of things that like could solve the
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very real problems we're dealing with are
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systemic. And there's been a number of things that have
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reinforced that for me over the years.
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For example last year or two
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years ago when they repealed Roe v.
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Wade. I think I made an episode on it
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at the time but it's very difficult
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to tell people that they have
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control over their lives, that they
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are personally responsible for their decisions,
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that they are able to change
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their life and then
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take away a fundamental right that gives
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them that control. That's a systemic problem.
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No amount of personal development is
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going to fix that. So I started to realize
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all of that. these things and out of nowhere my
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goals started to change. I
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started to look at who
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I actually was without
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the ambition, without the drive,
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without the hard work, without the sacrifice.
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Who was I? What is it that I was interested
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in? What made me me?
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I started to ask that question and what
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I came back with was a deep
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hatred for an industry that only
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exists because of your suffering.
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This podcast can only
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work, I can only grow, I can
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only make a lot of money from
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it if you continue
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to suffer and struggle and that's
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just not something I'm happy contributing
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to. And so my first move was to
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try and change the show. If I
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knew that many of our issues were
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systemic, that we needed to focus
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on societal change in order
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to affect our personal lives, then
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I was gonna focus more on politics and I was gonna
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focus more on tackling
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those systemic problems. But I couldn't
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do it, it just made me depressed.
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But you were still here, you were still getting value
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and I wanted to show up for you so I tried changing
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the show again. I tried focusing
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on being kind to yourself, on self-empathy.
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I tried focusing on more interviews with researchers
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and sharing data-driven advice. I tried
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all of it and none of it ever felt
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right. Every single thing I did felt like
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I was just another voice contributing to
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the problem, building a platform
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on the top of your suffering. So for a while
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I just decided, okay after a thousand
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episodes I'm gonna leave. That's
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when I'll do it, I'll just get the next hundred
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or so done and then we'll move
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on. But that led to me phoning it in. I produced
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episodes I knew were not good or
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useful, all for a paycheck. Because this
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was my full-time job at the time and
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I wasn't fortunate enough to walk away from
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the money. So what else could I do? But
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the result of that was actually devastating.
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I started to hate myself. I
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started to dread recording. But
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you are still here. And I wanted to
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do right by you. And one day I asked
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myself a very simple question. Why
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do I care about hitting 1000 episodes?
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And you know what's crazy? I didn't have
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an answer. Because
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I'd said I would. Because it
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would look better. Sure, 1000 episodes
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is a great achievement to work towards. But
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why couldn't I be proud of what I had already
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done? Why did I need to wait until
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episode 1000 to be proud? And
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that's when it hit me. I needed
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to leave now. Because
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this podcast started as a way to
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share personal development advice that actually
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worked. We talked about setting goals. We talked
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about being ambitious. We talked about pushing
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for what you really want in life. And that advice
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was amazing for me back
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when I was 23 and first started
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this show. Because I was working hard out
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of a deep desperate attempt to achieve
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my goals. I was working hard to run
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away from a life that I was not happy with.
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I ignored any sense
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of accomplishment, any sense of pride,
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any sense of joy, and sacrificed
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those things in the present for
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some imaginary future. Because I didn't
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think I deserved it. But I've grown since then.
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And the best advice I can give myself today,
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and the best advice I can give you,
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is to be happy with and proud
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of who you already are and
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what you're already doing. Rather
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than obsessing over who you're
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trying to become and what you want
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to do. There's nothing wrong with working towards
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something you want, but you can also be
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happy today right
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now. That's the only thing you have actual
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control over. I'm really, really
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proud of the work I did on this show. I
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really am. And I
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hope it will be a body of work
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that others can find and experience
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for years. to come but my
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time here is over. If you'd like
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to stay in touch, I'm going to be making content
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and sharing my life over on Instagram
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and TikTok. My
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username is at Greg Clunis on both
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of those, G-R-E-G-G-C-L-U-N-I-S.
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The links are also in the description of this
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episode. I would love to hear
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from you at any point, anything
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you're willing to share. I would really, really love to
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hear from you. But until the next time I see
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you or talk to you, whenever that
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might be, my name is Greg Clunis.
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And remember that
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all big changes come from
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the tiny leaps you take every
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day.
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Thank you.
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