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shit, everybody. You
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know, I wanted, I didn't want to censor the title, but
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a San Francisco slimmed for five. million a
2:00
year program to give free alcohol to the
2:02
homeless quote this isn't working. Duh, obviously. I
2:04
can't believe someone had to tell them this
2:07
wouldn't work. I think people got
2:10
to run a city not even just a small
2:12
one a really big city. A really big one.
2:14
How's it not working? We're getting
2:16
the whole of people drunk? When are they going
2:19
to clean up your act? We met their demands.
2:21
They needed more needles and alcohol and
2:23
we said sure and then they continue
2:25
to be chaotic. Okay, I can't believe this.
2:27
I think they're trying to do like if
2:29
you're homeless and you're an alcoholic, can't afford
2:31
your alcohol, you go through withdrawal and could
2:33
die or something. Maybe. That's the most code
2:35
you're reading that could do it. That's true.
2:37
Or are they trying to roll them off
2:39
heroin and onto alcohol? Alcohol. I
2:42
think you got cash money on alcohol. It's
2:44
the managed alcohol program providing free alcohol to
2:46
people struggling with chronic alcoholism who are mostly
2:48
homeless. San
2:52
Francisco does not change my opinion. There's
2:55
an issue with also like continuing
2:57
to feed somebody's addiction morally. I
3:00
think there's a moral issue. With
3:02
the needle handout centers, it's supposed to be like
3:04
you go there because you want to clean needle
3:06
because they're trying to prevent the spread of illnesses.
3:08
And also if you were to overdose or somewhere
3:11
that they can see you, they could potentially administer
3:13
Narcan. But also they're supposed to say like, hey,
3:15
maybe we should try rehab. Yeah. The thing is
3:17
most people are like, no, just the needles. Thank
3:20
you. Like it's supposed to be so you know
3:22
where the people who need the services are and
3:24
potentially could help all kinds of tragedies. But what
3:26
it turns into is just like giving people who
3:29
are struggling with addiction exactly on the government dollar.
3:31
Like I think, you know, obviously I
3:33
think a lot of Americans are
3:35
affected by people who struggle with addiction. I think
3:37
it's really serious, but I don't think saying like,
3:39
well, just because you're in a confined space and
3:41
we could maybe see if you wanted to go
3:44
to rehab, we're really doing a service to you.
3:46
I think ultimately like the object should be to
3:48
not let you have the substance that is harming
3:50
you. It kind of reminds me of, do you
3:52
guys remember during COVID when they left alcohol stores
3:54
open for this reason, like our stores open for
3:57
this reason? Yeah. It was just, and churches were
3:59
closed and. Yeah, well and you
4:01
hit the nail on the head when you said it's a
4:03
moral question, right? And it is a moral
4:05
question. Somebody might be like, I can't legislate morality.
4:07
Name one law that's not based in morality there
4:09
all are right and the sort of policies and
4:12
so Yeah,
4:14
I think in their mind this is some
4:16
type of altruistic endeavor like oh they need
4:18
alcohol let's help them It's
4:21
terrible keeping though. I'd like
4:23
to introduce everyone to this concept called
4:25
perverse incentive I've probably heard this before
4:28
the original cobra effect the term Cobra vectors
4:30
coined by economists Horst Siebert based
4:32
on an anecdotal occurrence in India during British
4:35
rule The British government concerned of
4:37
the number of venomous cobras in Delhi offered
4:39
a bounty for every dead Cobra Initially,
4:42
this was a successful strategy large numbers of
4:44
snakes were killed for the reward Eventually,
4:46
however people began to breed cobras for the
4:48
income when the government became aware
4:51
of this The reward program was scrapped
4:53
when Cobra breeders set their snakes free
4:55
the wild Cobra Population further increased the
4:58
story is often cited as an example of
5:00
Goodhart's law or Campbell's law So
5:03
when you say we give
5:05
free booze to alcoholics Alcoholics
5:08
show up for free booze. Yep, and you're like, but
5:10
we're helping people who are sick No, you're creating a
5:12
space for people who are sick to come and get
5:15
free shit to stay sick Exactly,
5:17
you're facilitating their sickness to
5:19
continue Which is
5:22
particularly gross and on the taxpayer dollar
5:24
doesn't help the yeah So I'm all
5:26
for compassionate treatment of people But is it actually
5:28
compassionate to be supplying something to someone you know
5:30
has a problem with it? No, no, it's
5:32
not I mean, this is you know, kind of
5:34
the hard love thing that many parents unfortunately this
5:37
country have to go through the opioid epidemic What
5:40
if they're like, you know what? We'll just give you
5:42
money for heroin and you know From
5:46
us we'll know you're safe. Right good. Like that doesn't make
5:48
any sense at the end of the day They're still addicted
5:50
to the substance. Yes, let's read another one Experiencing
5:52
an issue with feral pigs the US
5:54
Army post at Fort Benning now Fort
5:57
Moore in Georgia
5:59
offered hundreds a $40 bounty for
6:01
every pigtail turned in. Over the course of the
6:03
2007-2008 program, the feral pig
6:06
population in the area increased. While
6:08
there were some reports that individuals purchased
6:11
pigtails from meat processors, then
6:13
resold the tails to the army at higher bounty
6:15
price, a detailed study
6:17
of the bounty scheme found different effects
6:19
from perverse incentives were mainly responsible. Both
6:22
the pig's fertility rate and offspring survival rates increased
6:24
into the scheme. This was due
6:26
to improved nutrition made available by the feed
6:28
bait used to attract the animals to hunting
6:30
sites. Secondly, hunters were
6:32
found to be more likely to
6:34
preferentially target large males as trophy
6:37
quality gain while ignoring females in
6:39
juveniles as targets. Removing the
6:41
mature males in the population has
6:43
a negligible impact on population growth
6:45
as remaining mature males can each
6:47
stud many breeding sows. I
6:50
love how they never learn. You've
6:52
got the story of the cobras in India
6:55
and then there's just all of these stories
6:57
of the exact same thing happening. And I
6:59
bring you to today, San
7:01
Francisco offers free alcohol to alcoholics.
7:04
Surprise, surprise, their homeless population is skyrocketing.
7:08
Imagine that. I
7:10
swear these people are fucking retards. It
7:13
really is. And I think the
7:15
big challenges is that people like us
7:18
want to be left alone and say things like,
7:21
you know, live and let live. It's
7:23
the federalist argument, which I don't
7:25
completely disagree with this idea. It's like, well, New York is for
7:27
New York and West Virginia will be West Virginia. And I'm
7:29
like, but then the New Yorkers come here or
7:32
they try to get the federal government to impose laws
7:34
on us here. Yes. It's
7:36
really about growing up out of your libertarian
7:38
phase that one might have. Like, I think
7:40
you were mentioning earlier and there are negative
7:42
externalities. And when there are negative externalities, you
7:44
have to deal with it in
7:46
one way or another. I wonder, did it say
7:49
what kind of alcohol they were giving? Was it
7:51
what, what were they serving at this bar? Yeah.
7:53
Is it beer? Is it liquor? Is it tequila?
7:55
Is it Louis the 13th? Are
8:01
they sponsored by Bug Bunny? We have to know what
8:03
Louie is. No, they're not giving out, what does Louie,
8:05
like 250 an ounce? Interesting.
8:10
Or maybe they gave you like an EBT, but you could
8:12
only use it at liquor stores. You're
8:15
a treasurer, maybe you could understand the process of how
8:18
much this would happen. Here you
8:20
go sir, here's liquor. You're
8:23
just like passing out Jell-O shots on the street. Like
8:26
here you go guys. He said the city's
8:28
health department is not helping people get better,
8:30
it's about keeping people sick, and he added
8:32
we are living in the upside down. Wow,
8:36
hmm. And that was coming from a Democrat. Wow. The
8:39
retarded cheese stick in the chat says if it's Louie the
8:41
13th, I'm getting in my car now. What
8:43
is Louie the? It's
8:45
like $250 for an ounce. And
8:49
when they pour it, they have like an
8:52
eyedropper, and they don't let one
8:54
drop spill because one drop is like $5. Whoa.
8:58
Yeah, yeah. Not us, when we had it, I think Lauren
9:00
drank it out of a paper cup or something. All
9:03
alcohol's the same to me. I don't know what it means to
9:06
an un-drunk. At
9:08
the Castle we have this really great booze
9:10
shelf. And
9:14
I'm basically 100% off booze, except
9:16
perhaps sometimes a red wine for
9:18
the resveratrol because it lowers cortisol
9:20
levels, and resveratrol's not bad.
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But I typically will avoid alcohol. So
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10:03
drink wine or beer any alcohol and
10:05
then wake up in the morning and look
10:07
at your fitness tracker and it's all red
10:10
alert all warnings. Yes. And I'm just like
10:12
holy fuck it's fucking up my gains. Yeah.
10:14
So fuck that shit. Now I don't drink
10:16
either same for the same reason and you
10:19
know look nothing against drinking y'all do whatever
10:21
you want. But there's carcinogenics in there. There
10:23
are a lot of issues kind of long-term
10:25
consumption of alcohol. Arguably probably
10:28
quite a bit more dangerous than you
10:31
know cannabis and some of these other things that are out
10:33
there. Oh definitely. Yeah. Yeah but anyway when we at
10:35
the castle Lauren Southern was on the show
10:37
and she poured it's like
10:39
a $1,700 of Pappy. Very
10:44
expensive rare whiskey into a
10:46
paper cup just porting it in
10:48
thinking I'm going to drink this whiskey and get drunk.
10:50
And she had the bottle and then the
10:53
chat saw that she was pouring Pappy. You
10:55
know Pappy? Yeah. Yeah. Happy Van Winkle. Uh-huh.
10:57
Yeah. And it was like the
10:59
$1,700 bottle and then people were like nah. Like
11:02
all the whiskey people were screaming. And
11:04
so then she was like I'm going to do it again. And
11:06
then so when she came the next time I think
11:09
I don't know if she actually poured the Louie into
11:11
it. She probably did. Oh my
11:13
gosh. But we're not doing booze here now. Booze
11:15
is officially out and it's and
11:17
for one reason guests don't
11:19
drink it. Mm-hmm. It
11:22
just. It lingered forever. Yeah it just sat around.
11:25
More and more over the past few years when we first
11:27
started I got the booze because people were like I'll have
11:30
a drink. No one drinks anymore. And
11:32
so everyone would bring in older guys go nah I don't
11:34
touch the stuff I've been clean for X amount of time.
11:37
Younger guys are like oh I don't want to drink. Nobody
11:40
really ever wants to drink. If we did wine I'm sure
11:42
everyone most people probably be like I could have a glass
11:44
but I'm not going to drink a glass of wine on
11:46
a show. It's kind of weird. Right. Um
11:48
beers we had but they rarely
11:50
would anybody would drink it. And
11:52
I'm just like I don't really see the
11:55
point in loading up this shelf with all the
11:57
fancy booze at the bar that most people don't
11:59
touch anyway. And... There's
12:02
just no reason to do it. It's not the setting.
12:04
This isn't... We're not... You're not throwing ragers here, so...
12:06
Oh, you don't want to get buzzed off the film.
12:08
I think the culture's shifty now. I think the culture's
12:10
shifty now. No, the idea was to have a glass
12:13
of wine... I'm sorry, like
12:15
a glass of scotch on the rocks as we're talking
12:17
politics. And it's available if people want it. But
12:20
the booze at the castle is
12:22
mostly untouched. There's a full bottle
12:24
of, like, Lefroyg 25 or something
12:26
that no one has touched. Maybe
12:29
it's too nice and you're intimidating people with
12:31
the super nice liquors. I tell people, like,
12:33
I'll say, like, we have drinks, we have
12:36
coffee, we have, you know, water,
12:38
soda, milk. We've got booze, any booze you want.
12:40
And they go, nah. And
12:43
so I think maybe like one in 20 or
12:46
one in 30 guests might have it. I feel like they
12:48
only ever see it as, like, people who've
12:50
been on show multiple times and they'll sometimes have
12:52
something during the after show. So it's
12:55
pretty infrequent. Yeah, Seamus would have
12:57
some whiskey sometimes. Yeah. And again, some of
12:59
the people who have just, like, been on the show, it's
13:01
a different environment for them, especially the after show. It's like
13:03
more relaxed. It's just a lot of people saying
13:05
they don't want to drink. On alcohol, it's interesting
13:08
because I think some people say they drink it
13:10
to enjoy the flavors and not to get a
13:12
buzz. I drink a few times a
13:14
month and I'm drinking to get a buzz solely. I
13:16
don't enjoy the flavors of alcohol. So it's interesting when
13:18
people, to me, when people drink a little bit just
13:21
for the flavors. But what does the buzz do? Why
13:23
do you need a buzz? I
13:25
feel good when I'm drunk. I feel
13:27
euphoric. I feel a little tipsy.
13:29
I don't. You know, I'm not drinking for the flavor.
13:31
So I never understood why anybody would just have one
13:34
glass or so. Maybe I sound like an
13:36
alcoholic saying that. Well, I find that I
13:38
feel better eating beef
13:41
jerky. You know, it's
13:43
like, I just
13:45
probably don't drink at all. If I'm
13:47
drinking one, I'm trying to drink like three to five. I
13:50
drink three to five beers. So first of all, Yeah,
13:54
I think, look, if I go, we'll go out
13:56
sometimes like me, Allison and I, and I'll order
13:58
a wine thinking like. You know I
14:00
was often get some alcohol for the good at it
14:02
does. Lower court is all it does relieve stress and
14:05
I'm not super stress but I'll take two steps and
14:07
then just. Not. Touch it and be
14:09
I can. I literally just can't drink it. It does
14:11
nothing for me and if I get buzzed. It
14:14
just makes me feel a little busy. Now.
14:16
Little foggy and now either
14:18
I lost. Because. Threat your
14:21
house Korean Quarter sometime later and yet,
14:23
but not not. but I think some.
14:25
yeah sometimes for sure. But. Dot.
14:28
For. The most part I just. I.
14:30
Would feel happier chewing on a piece of
14:32
beef jerky before hill tongue. yeah the protect
14:34
them the meat or or taste so good.
14:36
I was just eating the size it was
14:38
at. it was a i'm. What
14:41
is it I got selma? It's.
14:45
Odd. Was. A company
14:47
righteous Fallon Crap Jerky Street Taco
14:50
L Pastore Pineapple Pork Holy crap
14:52
that was good. The feeling I
14:54
get from eating. Pork. Is
14:58
incomparable. Like bit booze does not make me
15:00
feel good. Dumb. Pork makes
15:02
me lose something. Also I think to
15:04
say about Algo how deeply alcohol is
15:06
entrenched with in so Zimmerman and souls
15:08
social girl First even before our time
15:10
I'm as a true as a jew
15:12
we drink wine on the sabbath so
15:14
it really goes and shirt grandsons I'm
15:16
catholic or catholic we need to talk
15:18
a little bit about wasn't there but
15:20
it in him feebly ingrained in our
15:22
culture for thousands of years So yeah
15:24
I mean ones obviously part of the
15:26
communion in the Catholic church ah an
15:28
Uma get again I'm going to debate
15:30
of treated Cgh. Everything like that or
15:33
enough. but ah yeah, I mean certainly
15:35
it's always been a part of it.
15:37
but I think this is especially We
15:39
saw like and college campuses and things
15:41
like like this maximalist you know, drunk
15:43
constantly all the time thing I think
15:46
is something like and forty thirty years
15:48
that than we've exported like. Like
15:50
countries I got, I don't know England that used
15:52
to like. Wow. The drink a couple of pints
15:55
of beer whatever they do and then we export
15:57
of that over to them. Their cars are. Worth
15:59
x four. Because he in the Uk
16:01
later he ages eighteen. So you start younger
16:03
like it's legal, younger and America's twenty one
16:06
year old. I think twenty were olds drinking
16:08
age makes it so during that year that
16:10
you have independence, you're an adult. But you
16:12
can't drink. You just. Encourage. Binge
16:15
drinking right? You know? Arbitrary
16:17
and says by like I'm no ten. Know
16:19
how or how old are you at first me and. Oh
16:22
that. Yeah, I
16:24
know that curry. so size or grade
16:26
when I was little. My
16:29
parents will always have like a beer or something,
16:31
right? Not always the like when they were in
16:33
the summer nights, sitting outside in the backyard drink
16:36
and a Miller whatever. nasty beer. I
16:38
wouldn't touch a miller my life to
16:40
fathom us but off back then I
16:42
just assumed can my parents like you
16:44
can't have it Bears for adults I'm
16:46
imagining this must be like the sweetest,
16:48
most delicious for a punch. A lot
16:50
of fruit punch like. You. Go to
16:53
eat Fruit punch was like my favorite drink
16:55
and saw my beer must be like the
16:57
best. And. Then I remember us by like ten.
17:00
My. Mom was like you want to taste it
17:02
and she gave me like a spoonful and
17:04
I was like like like every kid spatter
17:06
like this huge rating with it or if
17:08
it's disgusting and I still feel that way
17:10
to this day. Or
17:12
although to be fair yeah England actually it
17:14
is that problem being a blue moon I
17:16
actually like by don't like drinking alcohol I
17:19
just prefer for not doing it in water
17:21
during length mirror can come through yes mingling.
17:23
They're good base penciled I believe itinerant Raymond
17:26
G and the Jets as a oh the
17:28
beef six I got are they goods him
17:30
Raymond Sheath they are based a F. Eyed
17:34
guy has three already. On
17:36
why I gotta but it's protein so think it's.
17:39
I think the fact that alcohol is a
17:41
big part social call culture a sort of
17:43
the biggest issue. although I've read studies that
17:45
gente is opting not to drink and I
17:47
wonder if that number because there is socialization
17:49
a slightly off that also because it's just
17:51
it's not the thing anymore. Like were talk
17:53
about this like closer, have been dreaming, sort
17:56
of died away and. It's
17:58
like I'd I'd and on occasion it's. Like.
18:00
A regular part of my routine, but I
18:03
find that there is a big difference as
18:05
you get older in the shift of like,
18:07
what am I prioritizing right? Like if you
18:09
have things to do or like I was
18:11
reading about yeah they're in a inflammatory protocol
18:14
diet and from girls are going out and
18:16
she was saying like. He. Was
18:18
in my routine to go get my friends
18:20
on Friday or Saturday night. media or Saturday
18:22
morning, maybe go to like brunches, my boyfriend,
18:24
weekend champagne and when she had to go
18:27
on this. Diet. Because alcohols really flames
18:29
were to the body I had to kinds of.
18:31
she had to start like shifting was she was
18:33
doing which means like when she sang other French's
18:35
do something slightly different. Also cuts coffee coffee can
18:38
be inflammatory and I think that is sort of
18:40
where our culture is changing in a way that
18:42
I don't know they were for desperate for to
18:44
uproot predicted like the prior to this in of
18:46
wellness in the fact that people are willing to
18:48
sacrifice things that like. Would have maybe
18:51
been seen as like a social crutch in
18:53
Deaths Fascinating. The fact that this is. At.
18:55
A time when people feel they have an important when
18:58
health care is a big issue there's only say like
19:00
well as this is going to potentially damage me, It's
19:02
not worth. It. Was a user sees a years and
19:04
we're talking about this a little bit. In
19:07
between segments is Sierra Nevada coming
19:09
up with this sparkling water hot
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water. A lot of these companies
19:13
as are now weathered so I
19:16
don't know. But like Rona Heineken,
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whoever it is, it's not human
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back in the day. like the
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non alcoholic years ago dualisms terrible
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right that they're actually Dennis now
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has a non alcoholic Dennis. I
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mean it's every their. come on,
19:30
I'll have a lot of these
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non alcoholic drinks Buy Beer companies.
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Yeah, I know. Liquid Death is
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extremely popular. And or in all the bars
19:39
now New York City they have marked hills where
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you could get gas. affect public schools have like
19:43
wellness cause I also think this is a big
19:45
part of it. like if you worked out it
19:48
will affect your games. I promise you that it.
19:50
but I'll go anywhere near that. I see skateboarding
19:52
gains are tracked by the maneuvers you're accomplishing. And.
19:55
i'll be damned if i will go
19:57
backwards so you know i'm i'm not
19:59
sitting there thinking about how many reps I'm gonna do at 10,
20:01
15, 25, 35 or whatever. I'm
20:06
thinking about today I ollied
20:09
over five decks like ten
20:11
times. And tomorrow
20:14
I'll ollie over six. So
20:16
that's actually one way you can track obvious gains how
20:18
high you're jumping, how high you're ollying. But for me
20:21
for the most part it's like I
20:23
wanted to try a nollie nose blunt on the curb. It's been
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a long time since I've done nollie nose blunt on a ledge.
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20:32
knows exactly what I'm talking about. Not a nollie nose blunt.
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Sketch for me at this point in my life.
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Right? So it's like I've done it
20:39
before but now that I'm like trying
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to track my daily progress you
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can't drink booze man. So
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here's what happens. Yesterday
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approach it and I like to trick my brain into thinking
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about it. So that's what I'm
22:01
trying to do. Basically is similar to this
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but instead of jumping off your back for
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22:08
putting myself in a position. Just
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knows grind would be if you
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don't turn. So if
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you just go straight up and land on
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the truck it's a lot lot easier the
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up and so ah it as a little
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scared as a little scared to get into
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those look as a high slip a salary
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I'm actually on that butter bunch ledge that
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we have so within two tries I easily
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did an knows grind knowing I could easily
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do now he knows what. I'm
22:40
saying to myself. I don't want to
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getting it. So. I did like three
22:48
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he knows rhine Three sixty seven up. Spent.
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was like tomorrow I will advance to the next
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yeah, that makes sense on an hey did
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I also wanted to point the or tend to the
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this quick I get to think of pretty horrifying. Study
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came out recently that eighty to ninety percent
26:14
of men that subscribe to me fans are
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actually married, foolish and this change how we
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in how we view individuals a use only
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sense and gym in the inevitable rise of
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a i go friends. And.
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With the demographics of this is a what does
26:27
this mean going forward to society and marriage of
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for. What? We
26:31
should do is. Launched
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the world's biggest fundraiser on gifts
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and go to buy only fans
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and then public publish all of
26:40
the user information. I
26:43
wonder if it's you need to only
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fans are has similar numbers across are
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unsure as and I dunno mean there's
26:50
there's an there's an epidemic in this
26:52
country's early to pornography just generally and
26:54
people are getting into was younger and
26:57
younger and younger and good as the
26:59
this is the difference between a libertarian
27:01
conservative right because the libertarian mindset is
27:04
gonna say sure you know two consenting
27:06
adults do whatever you want. Ah and
27:08
it was at he was. The.
27:11
Taplin with a Caplin Institute does that. Robert
27:13
Kaplan I think is the with the way
27:16
they were I used like of did. The.
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Guy's A relates to like conservative thought
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as Med Det Pornography said. No, it's
27:23
fine to contend it's two consenting adults.
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In to me, it has a really
27:27
corrosive effect on society and way that
27:30
we're interacting with a with each other
27:32
and then also the way that young
27:34
people are looking at how to interact
27:36
with the opposite sex, right? It is
27:39
like these are not. Normal.
27:41
relationships that are being displayed on these
27:44
sites and i think it's it's really
27:46
damaging i think to a lotta young
27:48
people to family's all that's i think
27:51
as a result of their inability to
27:53
keep miners up to their website some
27:55
states band yeah i'm porn website well
27:57
he is yeah they said loosely There
28:00
were laws,
28:02
which I think that should be to me. I think
28:04
that should be a federal law. I think that should
28:06
absolutely be a federal law They should be an age
28:09
verification federal law on
28:11
this now, obviously the Supreme Court
28:13
and Other courts have
28:15
talked about this you remember What
28:17
was the movie about Flint versus?
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Yeah, I can't remember the name of it But kind
28:23
of where they're trying to shut down hustler magazine
28:25
and it was deemed first amendment protected speech and
28:27
things of that nature you're
28:30
gonna run into that obviously but We
28:32
had like why do we have a rating
28:35
system on movies, right? Like as a society
28:37
we've decided there's certain things children can see
28:39
and certain things children cannot see that was
28:41
a moral judgment As a society that we
28:44
made why can't we make which this
28:46
is way worse than an R rated movie Why
28:48
can't we make that same judgment as it relates
28:50
to age verification? I think there's
28:53
a serious issue with the ubiquity of porn
28:55
when I was a child It
28:57
wasn't easy access to the internet and
28:59
the only scandal II
29:03
printed women was like the unmagazines behind like in
29:05
a gas station behind a shelf or something that
29:07
I couldn't easily get to but Nowadays, it's really
29:09
only a couple of clicks away on all
29:12
social media apps. There's not maybe
29:14
hardcore porn, but softcore porn Which
29:17
is still bad and could you know? So
29:20
the ubiquity here it's almost unavoidable
29:23
at least the soft core version on different social I was
29:25
listening to a couple Being interviewed
29:28
about their relationship and he the guy was talking about
29:30
how he had struggled pornography addiction for years And they'd
29:32
met when they were in college and he was like
29:34
I really love her I always have but this is
29:36
just always something I dealt with to the point where
29:39
like he was watching porn the night before their wedding
29:41
And then the night of their wedding he like couldn't
29:43
perform. It was like so ingrained in how he Operated
29:46
and functioned and it took a real long time
29:48
and it had super negative consequences on their marriage
29:50
I mean, it's it's something that I
29:52
think people don't want to talk about because it makes
29:54
you uncomfortable Especially with like teenage boy. You don't want
29:57
to talk about what they're doing when they're watching porn,
29:59
you know, but But ultimately, it's their neural
30:01
pathways being formed that will shape the way
30:03
they make decisions and form relationships for the
30:05
rest of their life. Like, it is critical
30:07
that someone does something, not to mention the
30:09
human trafficking aspect of it, not to mention
30:11
just the general encouraging of debauchery and the
30:13
fact that like, when you are watching a
30:15
lot of porn, you end up seeking out
30:18
bigger and bigger throws basically, which means get more
30:20
and more bizarre and weird, which then you bring
30:22
into culture, like, this is not something you would
30:24
do to someone who you wanted to have a
30:26
healthy and successful life, expose them to pornography early
30:29
and often. Right, there's a lot of violent.
30:31
And then you're weighing the freedoms of speech
30:33
and porn, but there's a story right now
30:35
on The Daily Mail, let me see if
30:37
I can find it actually, where
30:40
it's this guy who was applying to be a cop,
30:42
he's 26. Here we go, it's
30:44
right here. Check this out. Florida
30:47
man trying to get job as police officer
30:49
blurts out that he sexually abused girl 9
30:51
during interview. Steven Bodley, 26,
30:53
was convicted last week on sexual abuse charges.
30:56
Now hold on. That's a wild thing to
30:58
just... So what it
31:00
is a weird thing to say, but what they
31:02
need to tell you is that he was 14. And
31:06
it's a big difference between a 14 year old and a 26 year
31:08
old, not saying it's good or anything like that.
31:11
But he was 14 and the girl
31:13
was, they say nine, but then they later
31:15
say 12. Okay,
31:18
so like it was, what
31:21
he said was, he had been watching a bunch
31:23
of porn and then started acting it out when he was
31:25
14 with his like a younger
31:27
family member. Then
31:30
when he was applying for a job, he just flat out said
31:32
that he did it, which is glad
31:34
he admitted it so he can be locked up for it, which
31:36
he is being locked up for. Have you seen the stuff
31:39
about, I believe it's
31:41
Nicki Minaj's husband? He's
31:44
a registered sex offender. And so at her concerts
31:46
in California, they have to like put out a
31:49
warning. All the kids have to be like totally
31:51
real at a like specific area guarded by police
31:53
because she wants him there. But
31:55
I was looking at this and I was like, it's crazy. She's
31:57
married to what? But it turns
31:59
out, and again, this not okay, but
32:01
when he was 16, he like assaulted
32:04
another 16 year old and he was
32:06
charged. He served like four years in
32:08
prison and whatever else. And he pled
32:10
to attempted rape, even though they're like
32:12
very serious injuries. It's very weird. But
32:14
then googling this, Nick Minaj is another
32:16
relative who abused his stepdaughter. Like these
32:19
horrible things that we hear all the
32:21
time, you know, it's, it's, I
32:23
think in part, you know, some people are evil, they're
32:25
always going to do evil things. The other part is
32:27
like, if we don't have a society that is like,
32:29
these are unacceptable things that we do not allow, then
32:31
it's just going to become something that we get used
32:34
to in a horrible way. Correction. He was 12
32:36
to 13. While
32:38
he was 12 and 13, he was
32:40
watching a bunch of porn, and then started acting
32:42
out those things with his nine year old, the
32:44
nine year old family member. So
32:47
this is a little kid who
32:49
was, who was being shown hardcore,
32:51
psych, psychologically destructive porn. And
32:54
look what he turns into. I think a
32:56
lot of 12 and 13 year olds have access to
32:58
Oh, yes. type of material on Twitter. But I think
33:00
it's treated as a like, you know, boys will
33:02
be boys, like, oh, they always seek to sub out, which
33:04
is like, maybe true to a certain extent. But that doesn't
33:06
mean that we should just be like, so it should get
33:08
worse and worse and worse. And we should let it rain
33:10
more freely in our society. So go back to
33:12
the previous conversation. So alcohol
33:15
is so much harder for them to
33:17
access than pornography. Yeah, we have a
33:19
lot of very stringent
33:21
laws and controls on alcohol,
33:24
but not on pornography. Yep, because it's legalized. And
33:26
people are checking who is actually purchasing is on
33:28
some of the streets. Anyways, just want to add
33:30
that part. Anything else to add to this? By
33:32
the way, my friend, I
33:36
just wanted to point out like, it's
33:38
80 to 90% of men on that
33:40
site that are 89% of the males
33:44
that subscribe to that are married. So what
33:46
does that say about marriage as a whole?
33:48
Like, what's going on? I
33:50
think they came into the marriage with a porn problem. Yeah,
33:53
like the fact that you would go to only fans
33:55
before it means you have been watching pornography for years.
33:57
I don't know. I'm not a man. I can't see.
34:00
for sure but I don't think anyone starts at Onlyfans. I think
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they start somewhere else and it gets really bad. Onlyfans,
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you also need to be a special kind of porn
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guy I think to get into Onlyfans specifically because there's
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a lot of free stuff out there but maybe I'm
34:11
reading too much into that. Well they want the interaction.
34:13
The interaction, which is also more than porn at that
34:15
point when you're interacting. Guys
34:17
on Onlyfans are basically men who
34:20
want to have sex with men pretending to be
34:22
women. So it's like they're
34:25
sexually turned on by the idea of a big
34:27
fat 40 year old overweight guy
34:30
saying, I'm a sweet young thing and they're like
34:32
it gets them off. Because everybody
34:34
knows you're not really chatting with the woman.
34:37
You're chatting with a staffer who's probably some like, dude.
34:41
Maybe Andrew Tate will go better than we do. Andrew
34:43
Tate said he did it. Tate said
34:45
that he would go on their accounts and message
34:47
guys saying nasty things to him and
34:50
dudes love it. I
34:52
forgot where I was. So you know he could talk to her.
34:54
There was a survey they asked guys, do you care that you're
34:56
actually talking to a guy that said no. The
34:59
guys don't care. Guys
35:01
get off and having guys talk dirty to him. That's why they're
35:03
on Onlyfans. It's the state of
35:05
men in this country. Shall
35:08
we go to the next caller? Indeed. We
35:11
shall. Thanks very much. Sleep boss man. If
35:13
you're welcome. Burpees are based. Burpees
35:16
are based. Cheers. Alright.
35:20
Let's talk to some guy. What's good some guy?
35:22
How you doing? I'm doing well. How
35:25
is everyone tonight? Great. Excellent. Welcome.
35:28
Good. Alright. Well
35:32
I appreciate you taking my call. I'll
35:34
be brief. My question is for Riley.
35:37
So a couple years back you launched
35:40
a little bit of a campaign
35:42
against BlackRock using a state law
35:44
to blacklist them from West Virginia.
35:47
And I was just the media doesn't do a good
35:49
job following up or anything. So I just wanted to
35:51
know a little bit more
35:53
about that. How did that go? How did
35:55
the 2015 state coalition thing go? And
35:58
what was it like to go to the White House? toe to
36:00
toe with them and could you give us any inside
36:02
baseball? Yeah, no, thanks for
36:04
the question and it is something that
36:06
I'm extremely proud of here
36:08
in West Virginia. I was the first elected
36:11
official in the country to divest our tax
36:13
dollars from BlackRock, which is a terrible evil
36:15
company. And if you don't know
36:17
about them, I would look that up. But that
36:19
coalition that we started, all of
36:21
those states have divested from
36:24
BlackRock. And then we passed a
36:26
law here called the
36:28
restricted financial institution list, which said if
36:30
you're boycotting the fossil fuel industry, you
36:33
will lose your ability to bid on
36:35
any contract for financial services with the
36:37
state government of West Virginia. We
36:40
got another 10 states to pass that bill.
36:42
And we've seen a lot and I just put
36:45
four new institutions on their city being one of
36:47
them and several others. And that was just a
36:49
few months back. But two of them,
36:52
two of them, I didn't actually end up
36:54
putting on Fifth Third, Bank of Montreal, Bank
36:57
of America was another one that got taken up.
36:59
They actually changed their policy because they know if
37:01
they got in my list, they get on Texas
37:03
list, they get on Kentucky and some of these
37:05
other states, they get on their list. So
37:09
the point of this, why we are doing this
37:11
was to push back against ESG. That's
37:13
the environmental social governance movement in this
37:15
country. And I think
37:17
we are winning. Have we won? We've
37:20
not won. I would say there's a lot
37:22
of work that has to be done. And some of
37:24
that work needs to be done at the federal level
37:26
and not to get too far
37:28
into it, but I'll give you a great example. Rating
37:31
agencies, so that do bond ratings
37:33
for states. So S&P Global,
37:37
for instance, was about to
37:39
downgrade our bond rating in West Virginia
37:41
due to the industries that we have.
37:43
Also they cited demographics, whatever the hell
37:45
that means, was one of
37:47
the reasons that we're going to get downgraded in
37:50
our bond rating here in West Virginia, specifically because
37:52
of fossil fuel industries, which basically
37:54
means if we don't destroy our businesses,
37:58
then it's an extortion racket. Right.
38:00
So if we don't comport ourselves to
38:02
their values, then we're
38:04
going to pay more for our bond rating, which
38:07
means we pay more. We're going to get downgraded
38:09
on bond rating means we pay more for schools,
38:12
roads, hospitals, all those things.
38:14
So that is something because
38:16
you got Moody's, S&P Global that has to be
38:18
handled at the federal level. And that's actually one
38:20
of the reasons that I'm running is
38:23
I'm the only one that would have an
38:25
actual experience winning at this and
38:27
trying to take it to the next level. But if you
38:29
look at the last round of proxy voting by BlackRock, they
38:32
only supported 7% of
38:34
activist resolutions. And
38:37
State Street, I think, was maybe
38:40
10%. Vanguard was like 3%.
38:43
These guys used to be 50, 60%
38:46
supporting activist resolutions on corporate boards. So
38:49
I think we're winning. I don't think it's over, but
38:51
we're going to keep fighting on this issue. It's
38:54
a good answer. Thanks. I
38:58
love it. We find a good fight. Thank you so much.
39:00
You guys have a great night. Thank you. Thanks,
39:03
Matt. Cheers. All right. Let's
39:06
hear from Sparky from Ohio.
39:08
How you doing? Howdy,
39:12
Howdy. How's it going? Good. Howdy,
39:14
Howdy. How's it going? All
39:18
right. So I got a question for
39:20
the MiG Monkey, but also for the
39:22
panel as a whole. How
39:27
can we go about getting trades back
39:29
into the curriculum? By
39:31
my name, I'm also in the trades, but I
39:34
don't really do well by accident. In high school,
39:36
I went to like a top 150 high school
39:38
in the nation when I graduated. I
39:41
sat through several dozen lectures
39:43
from quote unquote professionals, but
39:46
never saw, never
39:48
once saw anyone from any trade
39:50
background. Home economics has
39:52
been cut. Staff has been cut. Anything
39:55
relating to the trades has been cut.
40:00
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40:02
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for office, vote for people, make it a campaign
41:09
issue. Yeah. And you
41:11
mentioned MIG Monkey. I actually used to be
41:13
a welder myself. That's how I started my
41:16
career. MIG, TIG, STICK,
41:18
all that stuff. So I know what you're
41:20
referencing there. Here in West
41:22
Virginia, yeah, we started a program
41:24
called the Jump Start Savings Program.
41:27
I started and it all
41:29
related to my background. So you're able
41:31
to save dollars for college right now,
41:33
529 College Savings Plan.
41:36
I run that as well. We set
41:38
up what's called the Jump Start Savings Program.
41:40
And this is for after graduation from a
41:42
trade, vocational score, union apprenticeship, and
41:45
it allows you to save money for
41:47
after graduation by tools, equipment, licenses, certifications,
41:49
and new business startup costs to try
41:51
to incentivize people to get into the
41:53
trades. Now, look, if I were a state
41:55
of welder, I'd be making more money than I am right
41:57
now as state treasurer. I'll tell you that. You know, you go working on it.
42:00
on a pipeline, you're making pretty good money. But
42:03
here in West Virginia, we have started
42:05
to bring trades back into the
42:07
high schools. You remember there were a lot of
42:09
schools where you go 11th and 12th grade and
42:11
do a trade halfway
42:15
in the day and then finish out your curriculum through the
42:17
rest of the day. I went to trade
42:19
school myself and became
42:21
a certified welder. And that's
42:24
one of those things like, look,
42:26
I wanna make JumpStart a national
42:28
program and incentivize people to go
42:30
into the trades. And I think this is one way to
42:32
do that because what's prohibitive in getting involved
42:35
in that type of industry
42:37
is those upfront costs. Like if you're an auto mechanic, people
42:40
don't know this, you have to buy all your own tools.
42:43
All of them, you have to buy all of them.
42:45
And they're very expensive. And so it's not the education
42:47
piece that's really so expensive. It's
42:49
after education and going out and being
42:51
able to buy those tools, equipment, things
42:53
like that. So it's something
42:55
that I've been really focused on as state treasurer.
42:57
If I get into Congress, I'm gonna be focused
42:59
on it as well and try to make JumpStart
43:01
a national program. Do you
43:04
think West Virginia has
43:06
a different relationship with trade schools and
43:08
other places? Like I remember the high
43:10
school I went to, I wasn't from
43:12
Northwestern Connecticut. It was pretty rural. I
43:14
mean, graduated like 85 kids in my
43:16
class. But we didn't have a
43:20
wood shop. And I at the time didn't know if
43:22
that was because they didn't want us to. They wanted
43:24
everyone to be college bound because that's how they rank
43:26
high schools. Or it was because
43:28
we just had too few kids. Is it that I
43:30
had fewer options or is that the culture was so,
43:32
is that what they were like college is the most
43:34
important thing? Well, this has always been a blue collar
43:36
state. It's always been
43:39
a blue collar state. And we
43:41
do have a significant trade union
43:43
preference, or pardon me, a presence
43:45
in the state of West Virginia as they
43:47
do in Ohio over there from the collar.
43:49
There's a lot of trade unions over there
43:51
building construction trades. And
43:54
that's been the same way here in West Virginia.
43:56
But we got union non-union presence in West Virginia
43:58
on both sides of that. And I think
44:01
there's been this huge push towards college.
44:03
Like it's the only answer. It is
44:06
not the only answer. People listening to
44:08
this explore the trades. There
44:10
are a lot of good options out there
44:12
where you come out with no college debt,
44:15
making good money. And,
44:17
uh, you know, look, if you want to
44:19
go get a degree in Russian literature and
44:22
become a barista at Starbucks, you know, be
44:24
my guest, that, that, that's an option. But
44:26
the trades really, we got to put more
44:28
emphasis back on the trades. If we're
44:31
going to build stuff in this country, we have to.
44:33
Sometimes I think there's like a blue collar bias. Like
44:35
you're saying you were a welder, but now you're running
44:37
for Congress. Like some people feel like, Oh, I'll just
44:39
get stuck at a certain level. Oh, really? You could
44:41
be, you could have a trade and start a business.
44:43
Like it's not the end point. The problem, the big
44:45
issue is that they're saying college is the only way
44:47
to have any kind of economic mobility, but you're actually
44:49
being saddled with tons and tons of debt. No,
44:51
I think there's stagnation among, uh,
44:54
college educated, like bachelor's degrees,
44:56
I think there's stagnation as it relates to,
44:58
uh, wages in this country right now. And
45:00
there is a lot of opportunity
45:02
in the trades. I know guys
45:04
working on pipelines making $200,000 a year right now. Uh,
45:07
and there were six months on six months off.
45:09
I mean, that's a pretty good deal. Um,
45:12
yeah, I mean, it's, it did, it does
45:14
have a stigma. Uh, I welded
45:17
and then, um, I actually worked in a mining operation
45:19
at first, like an open pit mine, like rock Corey
45:21
kind of stuff. And
45:23
I ended up going to college and was
45:25
welding through college and going part time and
45:27
full time still welding. And then when I,
45:29
I wanted to go at some point, um,
45:32
work on the Hill and I go to the Hill
45:34
and they look at my resume and they say, you
45:36
went to trade school here and you were welder and
45:39
the question I used to get all the time,
45:41
which is terrible. They say, what happened? Like
45:43
something had to happen negative in my
45:46
life. Send you into politics.
45:48
Yeah. No, to be a welder. Oh,
45:50
interesting. Yeah. I mean, it's, uh, that,
45:52
that was like the stigma on it.
45:54
Like, why would you be a welder?
45:56
Like what happened? Like your life fall
45:58
apart and you just. And who
46:01
is interviewing someone with like $100,000 in
46:03
college debt because they went to get their bachelor's and master's? Right.
46:05
It's like, oh, you got a communications degree. Congratulations.
46:08
I have a communications degree. I'm going to tell
46:10
you. It's really not that great. I mean, it's
46:12
fine. I think there is
46:14
a level of like, if you are intellectually
46:16
curious, you're always going to pursue the things
46:18
that college offers you. But it's not the
46:20
answer to the American dream that it was
46:22
for maybe like our great grandparents. No,
46:24
it's not this, you know,
46:27
vending machine of money in, product out.
46:29
And I think that's what people are looking for as it relates
46:32
to college. And it doesn't work like that. Yeah.
46:34
It used to be you went to college for
46:36
a passion and you'd make that
46:39
passion money. You make money off that
46:41
passion. But right now, you
46:43
go to college because that's what your teacher
46:45
does. I went to a top, when I
46:48
graduated, it was 153rd in the nation, I
46:50
think. And
46:54
I went there and actually ran a
46:56
build out on there for the electrician
46:58
side of it. And
47:00
I ended up working in a
47:02
guidance counselor's office. And
47:05
I got to talking with him. And he had
47:07
just the most, like, honestly, it
47:09
felt like he wanted to piss on me because he
47:11
didn't think the trades were any good at all. Were
47:15
you an IBEW? Luckyland
47:18
Casino, asking people what's the
47:20
weirdest place you've gotten lucky? Lucky?
47:23
In line at the deli, I guess? Ah,
47:25
in my dentist's office. More than once, actually.
47:27
Do I have to say? Yes, you do.
47:29
In the car, before my kids' PTA
47:32
meeting. Really? Yes! Excuse me, what's the
47:34
weirdest place you've gotten lucky? I
47:36
never win Intel. Well, there you
47:38
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47:40
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47:42
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47:46
See website for details. Ah,
47:49
no. I'm not getting in, man. I hate the government.
47:51
I'm sorry I threw that out. Independent electrical contractors. Um
48:00
in ohio and actually we are expanding
48:02
so if anybody has any kind of
48:04
wants against the trades Or
48:06
kids that don't want them settled with debt
48:08
send me a message. I could jump up
48:11
with my company We're expanding into columbus right
48:13
now We're in cincinnati right
48:15
now lot of
48:17
growth in columbus That's cool. Yeah
48:21
Run on anything else to add friend Uh,
48:25
no, that's about it. Don't get did want
48:27
to add as a side note is it'd
48:29
be awesome if you have a floating friday
48:32
Because I usually get to work at 6 a.m And
48:35
this is fucking up my production day
48:37
tomorrow, but I really didn't want to talk to
48:41
Talk to a tradesman running for office because
48:43
I think that If
48:45
we had more tradesmen in office, we wouldn't
48:47
have such fucked up government right now I'm
48:49
thinking about starting a welders caucus. There'll be
48:51
a caucus of one Ah,
48:55
electricians are better than louder One
49:00
Plumber in congress one former plumber.
49:02
Oh good I saw I made
49:04
a weird excel document with all of this because I was
49:06
so curious about any welder I
49:08
can't think i'll pull it back out and i'll let you know but
49:10
so I wanted to tweet Oh,
49:13
go ahead. If you get elected you'll be
49:15
the one lauder in office. There you go.
49:17
True diversity All right. Shall we uh go
49:19
to the next color indeed? Thanks brother. I
49:21
wanted to tweet a troll tweet I thought
49:23
was pretty clever. I was gonna
49:25
say palestine is right about lgbtq people But
49:28
then I thought about it and thought that one goes
49:30
too far even for me So instead
49:33
I tweeted I wanted to post a troll tweet saying
49:35
something like palestine is right about lgbtq people But that
49:37
one goes too far for me All
49:42
right, uh, I still
49:44
I still expressed the idea but I don't want
49:46
to endorse Beautiful
49:51
Lord just takers in prison. I thought we were gonna
49:53
get through a whole show without an israel reference A
49:56
few minutes left and I thought we were coasting almost
49:58
made it tarnished it Yeah, Lord
50:01
by now, how you doing? Hey,
50:04
people I'm doing well. How about yourselves? Hey, great
50:06
doing all right. Thanks man. Doing well. So I
50:08
have a question for the panel. Uh,
50:11
in the 2020 election, uh, Arizona
50:13
state, uh, leaned, uh,
50:16
more towards Biden, but it was a pretty, pretty
50:18
even match. Uh, but in the Senate, they
50:20
were ahead plus six plus seven
50:22
for Mark Kelly. Uh, in
50:24
the end, you know, Biden won that state, uh,
50:27
due to numerous factors. Uh,
50:29
and since then there's been a massive influx
50:31
of California residents moving to Arizona in the
50:33
last four years, uh, uh,
50:35
throwback to your morning segment. Uh,
50:39
but 42% of
50:41
the top five states are
50:44
liberal or sorry, 42% of people moving
50:46
from the States are from liberal, more liberal States.
50:49
So I, from just
50:51
the data I've seen, it looks like
50:53
Arizona itself is moving more blue than
50:55
perhaps even Texas is. So
50:57
with all the polls coming out right now for, you know,
50:59
Trump being ahead as far as the way it is, 42%
51:01
of the people moving are from blue areas. Yes.
51:06
That means the majority of people are moving in. I'm
51:10
also in the Senate too. Yeah. Well,
51:12
theoretically it could be the bluer States getting bluer as
51:14
the people who lean slightly conservative are like mom out
51:16
of here. I'm a red state. It's
51:18
the conservative leaving the blue areas. Yeah.
51:20
I mean, sometimes you do get the
51:22
kind of liberal locus effect, uh,
51:25
where they've destroyed one area and then go to
51:27
the next and do the exact same thing that
51:29
caused them to leave to begin with. But
51:31
I do think there are a lot of conservatives also leaving
51:33
those States. I mean, we see that in West Virginia all
51:36
the time. Yeah. What was your question about it? Or was
51:38
it, what do you guys think? Oh,
51:40
that was, it was just kind of a lead up. Uh, I
51:42
was just going to ask for about the polls. Cause right now
51:44
all the polls are showing that Donald Trump is ahead by white
51:46
margins in most are in, in a lot of States right now.
51:49
And I suppose the question then is with the
51:51
constant influx of residents and the legal immigration problem,
51:53
is it possible that even the polls themselves are
51:56
part of the shadow campaign campaign or false flags
51:58
in those swing States? Well,
52:00
remember how accurate the polls were in 2016, right? I
52:02
mean, this was the famous issue. The poll service got
52:04
it wrong. There were only a couple that got it
52:06
right. Larry Elder referenced this
52:08
and they wouldn't let him on the debate stage
52:10
this year. He was saying, you know, they were
52:12
saying you can't use the, who
52:15
was it? A camera with Rasmussen, I think. And
52:17
he was like, well, I
52:20
should be able to use it for these reasons.
52:22
But also it was one of the few
52:24
ones that got 2016 correct. So arguably, it's more
52:26
accurate. You know, polling
52:28
data, I think you always have to take with a grandchild, maybe
52:30
this is something you would talk about because you're in the middle
52:32
of an election. But I think
52:36
the polls are really interesting right now because
52:39
it's almost as if they're kind of realizing
52:41
that Trump does have an advantage. But there are
52:44
a lot of the ones I see reported in
52:46
the mainstream media are like, but it's in the
52:48
margin of error. But this is not that well,
52:50
it's only 1%. And that's because you know, all
52:52
the Biden voters were off doing whatever, like, there
52:54
is sort of excuse making. Again, it does make
52:56
me worried that this is sort of a like
52:58
way to lull conservatives into complacency. So we don't
53:01
actually vote on election day. But
53:03
it's hard to say for sure, because
53:05
we don't always the polls are not
53:07
always accurate. Yeah, look, I'm going to
53:09
tell you this as a fact, depending on
53:12
who it is putting out the polls, people cook polls all
53:14
the time. Happens all the
53:16
time. We cooked one the other day
53:18
on the chat, I said, should
53:21
we're having a debortion debate? And I
53:23
said, should inset babies of incest to
53:25
be exempt from abortion law? What
53:29
does that what does that mean? And so it went
53:31
50 50. And then it leans slightly
53:33
towards no. And then it's like, it just depends on
53:35
what the law says. So I could create
53:37
any answer I wanted that question. Yeah, you can
53:40
you can load the questions, but you can also
53:43
wait the polls. So you go in and you
53:46
re wait. And so the waiting
53:48
mechanisms in those really kind of, you
53:51
know, you got leading questions, you can wait
53:53
polls. But just remember that Trump underperformed in
53:55
every poll in 2016 and pulled it out.
54:00
And I think that he does
54:02
not poll well generally because I think
54:04
supporters of President Trump tend to not
54:06
answer those calls, polling calls, because they
54:08
think their data is going to get
54:11
tracked and all those other things. I
54:13
don't think it's that. I think that
54:15
Trump upended the system. So
54:17
polling is based on predictive
54:20
models. They think we
54:22
want to call a family that lives in this county. We want
54:24
to call a family that lives in this county, in this county.
54:28
They call 2,000 families, and
54:30
they're like, all of these different
54:32
counties represent, you know, based
54:34
on the analysis, how the election turned out.
54:37
So these families represent these areas. Trump
54:40
supporters were new voters who never
54:42
voted before and were typically not counted in these
54:44
models in this way. So
54:47
the modeling, even with or without them included in
54:49
the polling, did not calculate for certain areas
54:51
that don't normally vote lighting up with new voters.
54:55
And that's part of that waiting. And then the other – not
54:58
only can you wait them geographically, but
55:01
they have to wait these based on
55:03
what they predict
55:05
the turnout's going to be, right? There's also
55:08
something to be said about how much influence
55:10
these polls have on the news cycle. Whatever
55:13
– you know, we love to hear a poll.
55:15
You can have the poll poll whatever results you
55:17
want. And then we build a larger narrative around
55:19
that. And it's like, how much are we buying
55:22
into, you know, fickle polls, results that we could
55:24
kind of make them say what we want, and
55:26
then creating stories based on that? And
55:29
in politics, we do that a lot. We give way too much
55:32
credit to polls and develop new stories and narratives around them. When
55:34
might that necessarily be true? I'll give you
55:36
a great example. So if I said, okay, I'm
55:38
going to do a poll – say I'm
55:41
a pollster. I'm going to do a poll, and
55:43
I have a moderate Republican candidate that
55:46
I'd like to see overperform in this
55:48
poll. In places where
55:50
you allow independents to vote in Republican primaries,
55:52
I will say, well, you know,
55:54
independent turnout's usually like, I don't know, 15%, but
55:56
I think it's going to be more like 30%.
56:00
And then I will oversample and overweight the independent
56:02
vote and then get those samples come in and
56:04
it's like, well, here's the poll. The
56:06
pollsters do this all the time for Democrats. Oh, all the time.
56:08
If you look at the cross tabs and everything, you'll see the
56:11
amount of Democrats, it'll be like a total of 2,000 registered
56:14
voters, and it was like 1,300 Democrats. And
56:17
you're like, wait, well, hold on a minute. That's
56:19
the overall majority of the people. And then it's
56:21
like we're all – as of Biden, it's at
56:23
60 points, and Trump's at 30. I'm like, I
56:25
wonder why. Yeah. I mean, it depends on who
56:27
you talk to. Well, we did a poll
56:29
and found that Tim Caste IRL is
56:32
the national poll, the
56:34
most popular podcast in
56:36
the country. We polled three people. It
56:39
was my cousin, my mom,
56:42
and my dad. Everybody's a company.
56:44
Everyone's a company, and everyone agreed. It's the
56:46
best show ever. And so that
56:48
– like, as silly as that sounds, that's
56:50
basically how polls operate. Bill
56:52
Burr has a – yeah, Bill Burr the comedian,
56:54
right? Mm-hmm. And then there's Bill Barr,
56:56
who's the AG. But Bill Burr has – I saw him do
56:59
it interview once, and he was like, these pollsters just ask each
57:01
other. They just sit around there like, who do you think is
57:03
going to win? And you? Yeah. Okay,
57:06
that's the guy. Let's say, like, I don't know, 50 percent
57:08
won. We do need to start winding things
57:10
down, though. So is there anything else you wanted to add, sir? No,
57:14
just that Bill Burr for AG would be really entertaining. Yeah. I'm
57:17
not always great with names. Although
57:19
he's the guy who went – he's
57:22
like, what do I care? I turn on the TV. He says, wait a
57:24
minute. He said, don't wear a mask. I turn on the TV and I
57:26
tell him what to do. And I was
57:28
like, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Anyway,
57:30
thanks for calling in, man. Absolutely.
57:32
Thank you, guys. Cheers, Bill. Riley, thanks for hanging
57:34
out. Thanks for having me. You
57:36
got to come by when you can, and we'll get some skate clips
57:39
with the boonies, and we'll – good warm-up
57:41
session, some protein shakes, and we'll get you landing those switch tray
57:43
flips in no time. Let's go. All
57:45
right. You landed a
57:47
– I guess fakey backside – a fakey frontside
57:49
no slide. Yes, I did. Yeah, like no warm-up.
57:51
You just went and did it. And I was
57:54
like, oh, there you go. I got that one
57:56
locked in. Yeah. That's one in the – it's
57:58
locked into the muscle memory. Right on. All
58:00
right, everybody, thank you all so much for being members. I just
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want to shout out, Thursday
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is expected to be a wild show.
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Lauren Chen, Benny Johnson, and ALX, all
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on the show at the same time, I guess. Sure.
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And then Friday's Culture Wars, we have four
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people. We've got Pearl Davis and
58:17
Lauren Chen as well as many others, so it's going to be
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a fun week. Thanks for hanging out. We'll
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