0:00

It's almost classic mode. You know, we gave you a time to show

0:03

up, and then I was, by the way, yeah, because I

0:08

was about to say that, but I don't want to be rude. First

0:10

of all. First of all, you know that you guys both know that.

0:14

That's why we gave her an earlier time on purpose. That's so dude,

0:17

That's why I text you to forty five. Really well, no,

0:21

because you were still lately, but we were wondering when wh while we were

0:27

waiting for you, Like you just said it. You guys know me.

0:31

You guys know me. Why are you still like that? To be completely

0:36

honest, to be completely real with both of you, guys, you don't

0:39

give a fuck. No, I mean that's what I would guess. I

0:42

ninety now you know things are a little bit different now. But now on

0:46

everything I love, ninety nine percent of the time I'm early, I having

0:50

so, I mean, it's y'all, so I'm just kidding, No,

0:54

some real shit. Ninety nine percent of the time I'm literally early to whatever

0:58

I got to do. Now, I don't believe, I swear. I know it's weird, and I mean you could have proved it by today,

1:03

but you didn't you know? I mind you. I came from an important

1:07

place and I was on Shaw and I hit every red light literally like just

1:12

my luck. But hey, I'm here listen. Most importantly, I'm here

1:18

put some sound effects on. No. I know it's wild because we're gonna

1:25

get into it when we start the episode. But you know you being late

1:29

was the cause of you of my first major radio gig, the first of

1:33

many of you later before. We're gonna get to know all about that stuff.

1:38

So, man, Jesse, are you ready? Let's do it?

1:48

This could give me fire podcast? What up on Gise? That is John

1:51

Magic and we are back our special guest today, which we're excited to have

1:56

her because she's a very good friend of both of our, is a former

2:00

co worker, an amazing radio personality. But most importantly, I mean,

2:06

I see it on your Instagram. She's a great mom to her son. Our good friend Monica Man aka mo momo. It's actually Monica mind oh man?

2:15

Yeah? Did you he really did say man? Right now? Yeah? I think it's everybody does. But wait, you know you always knew

2:22

his mom. Yeah, man, he's got two ends at the end. Yes, thank you. Yeah, But there's the there's like an athlete with

2:28

aren't there's so many? Then they say the man. They do, but

2:30

I don't know that it's mon I think that's more like your intro was like

2:37

longtime friend, all this and you fucked up her last name. But to

2:42

be fair, I've been calling you man and a lot of times you never

2:46

corrected him. I'm sure I have. I don't remember, but you really

2:51

don't really even use my last name. I use my first name ship nobody

2:54

does. That's true. It's Mo. So why why didn't you ever go

2:58

by MO on the radio or did you? Yeah? No, no more

3:02

on the radio? Oh Mo on the radio? On the radio, Yeah,

3:07

on the radio like that? I mean, I guess maybe once in a while I would say that, But for the most part I did become

3:13

Mo. Remember I was Monique when I first started, and that was given

3:15

to me. Let's let's start there. You're originally from here or are you

3:22

going to represent the whole London thing? Oh? I thought you meant here is a radio station. I was like, yeah, no, no,

3:27

no, yeah, well born and raised London, England, okay, but

3:30

then came out here in the early nineties and been here ever since. Old

3:34

were you when you moved to Fresno? Why are you trying to age me

3:36

out? I was what ten? What was the reason for the move from

3:44

My dad had this big idea to move to Chicago. That was the original

3:46

plan. So he moved to Chicago. And that's how it became a Bulls

3:50

fan back home in England because I was like, oh, Chicago, Michael

3:53

Jordan, the Bulls. And then it just didn't work out because Chicago's weather

3:55

was too close to England's weather. Long story short, he visited a friend

3:59

in Fresnoe, loved it and here we are. Wow, So where you

4:02

were you guys in Chicago for a little bit. We our family never went

4:05

there because he went there to establish everything, get a home and all that,

4:09

and he was like, yo, the weather is just like oh. So he went out there by himself. He went out to myself to get

4:13

everything started. And then so on the way back to England after he didn't

4:15

really like Chicago, he stopped in Fresnoe just to see a friend and was

4:19

like, oh my god, palm trees, sunshine, California. I found

4:24

a new place for us. And it was kind of like you could have

4:26

kicked la right from England to Fresnoe. Everybody's like, how did you get

4:30

from England to Freendslow. I'm like, man, you better ask my daddy.

4:34

Got none to do with it. This is just a side note,

4:36

and it's it's one of those memories that it just popped in my head after

4:41

you said that. When I was young, like toddler, like maybe three

4:46

years old. I think my dad did the same thing Chicago. He went

4:49

to Chicago by himself to kind of like, is this where we're gonna live

4:53

exactly? And we stayed back in the Motherland and then yeah, he then

4:58

he found southern CALIFORNI well, at least he found southern California. I mean,

5:02

you know what. No, I say that, and that's not very really really nice, because you know what, I'm in Fresno and this is

5:08

home, and you know, I love it. This is where I've pretty

5:11

much grown up and done it all. So shout out to Fresno. Yeah,

5:15

I mean I'm born and raised here, so I like it. Yeah, you got five five nine on your shirt? Yeah high school? Did

5:19

you go to Hoover? Right? Yep? What was the childhood in Fresno?

5:25

Like? It was cool? I mean obviously just getting here. The

5:28

culture is so different, right, so I didn't really fit in. I

5:31

was like the ugly duckling. I don't know how else to explain it,

5:33

but I didn't understand the culture. Everything was different here. Back home was

5:36

really strict, and I got teased from my accent and I didn't used to

5:41

shave when the accent, Wow, what hold on? Reverse sh did you

5:46

say? I was in the sixth grade, and yeah, I had hair on my legs, right, And I guess at that point everyone in sixth

5:51

grade shaving their legs and shit, and I'm sorry, And I remember getting

5:55

teased like are you gonna shave those things? I'm like, actually, no,

5:59

motherfucker, I'm so. I remember like little things like that, like damn, y'all fast out here, you're shaving your legs at ten? I

6:04

don't know, just like little things like that. But I got teased from

6:06

my accent, but not necessarily in a bad way. People would just be

6:10

like say something, yeah, can you say this sentence? When did that

6:13

fade away? Do you remember? Well? I started faking an American accent seventh grade. Yeah. I started faking it because I was tired of people

6:19

saying oh my god, so cute. Can you say that again? I'm

6:23

like witch, I said water like, but I said what, so it

6:26

was a little different, but I remember faking it and then I just caught

6:29

on. The funny thing is my sister never faked it. Obviously, Mom and Dad never faked it. So they still sound pretty British. Do you

6:34

kind of regret not sounding like that anymore? Because it's cool to yes and

6:38

no. I mean I guess yeah, I was young and you know,

6:42

dumb, but it's gone. Yes, Well, my family comes back from

6:46

home to visit us. Like when I'm around my family, it sometimes comes

6:49

out like literally, I'll just start sounding British again. It's kind of weird.

6:55

Yeah, they've said your influence. I know, I just I don't

6:58

notice it. But they've mentioned that several times. So we could fast forward

7:00

fast forward to when MO and I met. You know, it's such a

7:05

cool I don't even want to use the word coincidence. But how we how

7:12

we met before we before we anything, And I'll tell the story in a

7:16

second, but that's how we met, and then now we're like all great

7:21

friends and it's crazy. So here's a story. I was doing radio in

7:27

La and then I got offered the Fresno job. But before I got offered

7:30

the job, they said, we want to fly you out. We want

7:34

you to stay, stay a couple of days here and just kind of will

7:42

tour you around, uh for like a few days. So okay, so

7:46

they've back. Then it was clear channel. They booked me a flight out

7:51

La X. Flew here at the Fresno, got picked up and they're like,

7:56

your hotel's going to be right across the street from the radio station at

7:59

the Maria the Mary. I was like, cool, so I check in

8:01

and who checks me in? No mode check me in? Isn't that weird?

8:09

I was like, who is this? Mother? And you were the

8:13

whole You did the friendly like you talk to the guests and you're like,

8:16

oh, what are you doing here? You're here for business. I'm like, yeah, I'm here for a possible job. I might be moving here.

8:22

Now. This had to be two yep, that's yeah, two,

8:26

three, yeah, going into three. You were like a receptionist. She

8:30

was there absolutely job yep, front desk, reception, front receptionists. And

8:35

I just remember you being so kind and correct me if I'm wrong to slip

8:41

his phone numbers tell the truth. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I

8:50

told you, yeah, I might be moving here. I'm from l A

8:52

and I might be taking a job here. And I think you said, why are you moving? Why are you? Probably did look bad right now,

9:01

I probably did. But you said you was coming from LA. I

9:03

was coming from LA and I might be doing radio. And then that was

9:05

basically it. That's the last time I saw you that I took the job

9:09

I started. Yeah, damn. Yeah, it's just so weird. So

9:15

from you working there, how did your radio career start? God, I

9:20

got the worst memory. I was hoping y'all wouldn't ask me all these questions.

9:24

So Jizo brought up that you were an intern. I don't even remember.

9:26

I was like, actually was? I was interning with Ji? Yeah

9:31

together, I came little you're but I think you're like a semester before me

9:35

though, Yeah, yeah like that. So how did that happen? I

9:37

heard about the program from school. I want to say I heard a commercial on that That's how I heard it. Yeah, they did to play commercial

9:43

commercial. But I was in the master Yeah probably place. Isn't that even

9:48

more crazy? But I was in the mass communication and journalism department at Present

9:52

State. So it was radio something you wanted to get into or just like

9:54

mask something in mass communications school to be in a sports commentator. So yes,

10:00

yeah, you know, because I just I've always had a love for

10:03

basketball. I wanted to do that. That's why I went to school and

10:05

studied. But I think they talked about maybe an opportunity and an internship in

10:09

radio there, but you had to do something. You had to do TV or radio, like it's some interning hours. And then I think it was

10:15

a commercial I heard, and so I maybe came in filled out an application.

10:18

I think that's how it worked out, and they called me back and

10:20

interviewed I think with g if I'm right, and that was it, right?

10:26

Yeah, And I think you could intern a max of three semesters something

10:28

like that. I was for about eight semesters. Yeah, I mean,

10:31

I don't know how that happened. But what do you remember from your first

10:35

time in years? Yeah, because I don't remember anything grinding. I remember.

10:41

I remember a lot. I remember, especially when Jise came through,

10:43

like we were together at every event. We hustled, we hustled like we

10:46

were making one hundred dollars an hour. Yeah, we were at working,

10:50

working for free, but we didn't. Money wasn't even in thing. I

10:54

mean, mind you, this was twenty this was two thousand, let's just

10:58

say three. I mean it wasn't so bad in the house. I did

11:01

have written stuff, but money wasn't. Money wasn't what it was now,

11:05

right, like you got to change jobs and shit. Exactly back then,

11:07

I think, you know, I don't know how surviving, but I was.

11:11

But I was fine. So it wasn't like, oh I got to make money to go to this event. No, I didn't even question it.

11:15

We were at every event that you could even possibly think of. Hell,

11:18

we were probably at events for the country station and the damn rock station. We want even like remotes. I was showing up too, everything everything.

11:24

We didn't question the money. We didn't even ask for money. We

11:26

just wanted to be in. We had a passion for this music shit like

11:30

this entertainment business. You know. And Jizzo knows this because we talk about

11:35

you just knowing someone has it, and I do remember I was a fan

11:41

of GIZZL. I know he had it, and I think you were the

11:43

other person. I was like, she has it, and you know this

11:48

is gonna she has a good future. And the only reason why I bring

11:50

up YouTube because then is this one. I recruited everyone to be part of

11:56

this thing called the Flavor Unit. Yeah. You basically recruited me and Mo

12:00

like help run your show. And you were doing night show. I was doing the night show. Yeah, he had a three hour show. Still

12:05

complaining was it? Yeah, yeah, you go from seven to ten.

12:09

That's right, fucking three hours. Right. But anyways, you needed like

12:16

some side kids. I wanted the party atmosphere that I was used to,

12:20

so I was trying to remain We were give it to you. Yeah,

12:22

we were background noise. Yeah, so it was YouTube and butters. We

12:26

even made shirts. Yeah, it was John Magic and the favor I mean,

12:30

and that wasn't like the early days of radio, but that was early

12:33

enough that we are blessed us three. I mean, I'm speaking just for

12:37

us three now that we were blessed to experience kind of the early radio day

12:41

where there was less politics and more fun. Ye, say what you want

12:43

to do, what you want talk about the other station. It's all good.

12:46

It's in fun and games like you know, like it was because we

12:48

were having this conversation with Carmen, and she was even talking about how like

12:52

all the pranks that she had to do, and like that's wow, that's

12:56

not even a thing anymore. Pardon them, I never did that, but

12:58

even that pranks like like doing fun stuff in the radio. But people are

13:03

listening in their cars, but they can still see it because it's it's so

13:07

well spoken of and yeah, like it was different. Man. Before we

13:11

go to the next timeline, during the Flavor Unit days during the night show

13:15

with us, any memories that stand out to you, it's like tons.

13:20

I mean, not not specific incidences, but just the fact that I wanted

13:24

to show up every single day. I didn't want to miss a I didn't want to miss a beat. I loved it. It was my I mean,

13:28

and you know, it's a passion that you have. It's not something

13:31

that you just want to go to work today. No, man, I

13:33

can't wait to get there. What are we talking about tonight? What are we doing tonight? Who were talking shit about tonight? You know in a

13:39

fun, fun, fun way, all those things? Where were going tonight?

13:41

What club we hosted tonight? What club will we falling asleep at?

13:48

Like you know, what artists is coming what time we got to be there, Like there was no like it was just all about what does radio need

13:54

because we're gonna be there, like we're gonna do this. What was so

13:58

what happened next? You were still so during the Flavor Unit you were still

14:01

an intern I don't know, was I am I gonna have to be like

14:05

the history guy for all this. I have a good memory. Yeah,

14:09

So I remember a part time situation had it opened up. It was just

14:13

like weekends, because you know, that's how like you start. And then

14:16

I remember g I said, if I wanted to apply for it, I

14:20

think I had to give him air check and you added too, and from

14:24

what I was told, it was basically between me and Mo, and then

14:28

Mo ended up getting it. She she was a little bit more seasoned than

14:33

I was. I think I was just on my first semester, and like

14:35

you said, you were ahead of me, and so Mo had gotten the weekend gig and that's how you had gotten in. And then I still was

14:43

rocking an internship for like the next year, I think after that, so

14:46

I was doing weekends and probably getting paid for it. But so then I was still doing Flavor Unit, maybe maybe running the board or something for like

14:52

an hour. I mean, yeah, remember so fun. Do you remember

14:58

getting hired like a f actually getting here? Do you remember that? No?

15:01

I really don't know. I mean I have a picture of me signing

15:03

a contract with G I kind of remember that, but it just when was

15:09

do you know, like when you went to the morning show. I guess

15:11

that's kind of like what we want to get into. Great question. I

15:13

remember the I know, aren't you going to answer that? For? No?

15:18

I remember the morning show. It was Margarita, if I'm right. She was doing mornings with and Dre and then she left for whatever reason.

15:24

Then you stepped in, right, and then I think they came to me.

15:28

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And I think that's kind of how that

15:31

went down. And I started doing mornings. Were you doing Yeah, so

15:35

you were doing mornings and weekends or just mornings or mornings and mid days.

15:39

It came to midday shortly after again, and I started doing mornings and mid

15:43

days. And I think I'm still doing weekends. Okay, I think I'm

15:46

still doing weekends. So from our memory went from weekends there was an opening

15:52

in the morning, then you got on yeah, something like that, and then that's when it was the Juice Crew is used G and Dre and then

15:58

you guys are rocking? Well was the run on that? How many years? Because I know you guys were a popular show? Oh three about four

16:06

years? Maybe three? Was it more than that? Cat okay? And

16:10

then the big thing I guess it years ten thirteen years, and we were

16:14

we were you know, we were good. We were family like no you

16:18

That's what I remember them three being like, yo, this is a good trio. Yeah. Well, I mean I think uh, because I think

16:22

they had switched out because it felt like the girl was always getting switched out,

16:26

right, because even before Margarita, there was another. It was another

16:30

she wasn't it the one who had she had died. I think she had

16:33

passed away. Oh yeah, she was Asian. Yeah, but that's when

16:40

I first started here. And then I heard about Chee Chi le Oh.

16:42

I think, so, yeah, I heard about her, So when I

16:45

moved here, she passed away. And then I think Margarita had got on

16:49

because she had won a contest and then she had a little I know,

16:53

my memory is crazy, but she had she had left for whatever reason,

16:56

and then that's when you slipped in, yes, and then feel like that

17:00

was like that show like they had find their there I found their trio until

17:03

more fucked it up and and we'll get to that. No, yes,

17:07

so man, those are some good times. I'll give us any details of

17:12

you getting fired for my first time in radio, absolutely well. It started

17:17

with a few suspensions first, right, a few like listen, I'm just

17:22

going to keep it as possible and as real as possible. During that time

17:26

when I was doing the morning show, obviously it was kind of the start

17:29

of radio for me, and I was doing it and I was absolutely loving

17:33

it. It was like, like, you guys know, the passion we have for this ship is different. It's not just trying to be on the

17:37

air because you want to be something, you want to be cool. Yeah,

17:40

it is itself. No, it's some real shit. It's some real love and passion for it, right, And man did I love it like

17:47

it was my everything. At that same time, I started an I'm trying

17:52

to say this the most humblest way ever, and y'all know me, I'm not even fucking like that. But I started blowing up a little bit,

17:56

right, So people started knowing who I was, and I was I was

18:00

given the opportunity to like literally host so many clubs events remem so for over

18:04

a year, maybe two years, maybe three years, I can't remember,

18:08

but I was hosting clubs Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights for show,

18:11

like three nights a week, one hundred percent. Sometimes Wednesday, so Wednesday,

18:15

Thursday, Friday, Saturday. So I'm getting to the club. Let's

18:19

just say about no later than ten. But the problem was I was leaving

18:23

the club. I don't know. You guys know how it works back in

18:26

the day. I don't know how it is now. But wait to get

18:30

a because you're waiting to get paid reading. So the club's done at one

18:33

twenty. Then you gotta sit around wait for them to count their fucking money.

18:36

You gotta make sure you're getting your money. You got it. You know, it's so much involved. You guys know behind the scenes what it

18:41

is. So there it is. I'm getting my little whatever amount of money

18:45

at two o'clock at night, and then I'm going home. Then I'm trying

18:48

to wake up and be at the studio by five, five fifteen in the

18:51

morning. It became a major issue. I couldn't I just couldn't be on

18:53

time. And then mind you. Of course I was probably drinking ninety percent

18:56

of the time, right, I was a rookie. I didn't realized the

18:59

busy in this aspect, like, come on, mob professional, It was

19:02

kind of part of your stint, right you go, you chill, people buying you drinks like you're drinking. You're having a good time. And I

19:07

got so caught up in that, like and I was new in radio.

19:11

I didn't know anybody. I was having such a great time, and I was meeting so many great people and they were making me feel so great.

19:15

And it was just a vibe like literally four days a week, every week.

19:18

And that's when clubs were popping in Fresno, Presnel clubs now. But

19:22

shit back there in early two thousands. I mean, it was like Monday

19:25

through Sundays. We were lit. We were lit, and we was at most of them, most of them, and I was there. And so

19:30

what became the main issue which led me to get fired for my first time

19:36

was just I could not be on time to my show. I'm showing up to my show. It's damn near over, you know. And g Man

19:41

is And by the way, g Man was our boss at that time.

19:44

He was the program director of the whole station. So I'm walking in all

19:47

my boss to our show late as hell at least three days a week,

19:52

at least three days a week, you were late three days a week probably,

19:55

oh man. And when I'm saying late, I'm saying okay, thirty minutes sometimes an hour at some time. Yeah. Like, well, first

20:00

they kept it in house. I mean, I'm not gonna lie man Ge

20:06

to this day. I can't thank him enough for how much he looked out for me. If g wanted to, he could have been fired me after

20:11

the first let's just say four times being late, because that's just unprofessional.

20:14

So he just kept giving you a chance. And I think he knew what

20:17

I was out there doing too, and he knew I wasn't a bad person. He knew I wasn't like I fucked this job out of here. He

20:22

knew how much I loved it and had a passion for it. But I

20:25

mean, at the end of the day, he had to do his job right. So was it just because you were you were just too tired to

20:30

get up, or you slept through the alarm. I don't know what the

20:33

fuck I was doing. Shit, I was just waking up and I was

20:36

like, oh my god, it's five o'clock. I was supposed to be here at five o'clock. Like it just literally that's simplified, and that's stupid.

20:41

When I look back now, I'm like, wow, Mo, But

20:44

I mean it was a learning lesson. I get, well, was it because you were just talking late today? Imagine that she was still doing radio?

20:51

Now with the technology we have where you could record shows, i'd be

20:55

late for my home recorded ship. Yeah. No. But so that's just

20:57

basically what happened. He had given me so many chances, even dre As

21:00

my big bro, would put me inside like Mo, man, come on,

21:03

like come on, so what was the sword? So then I got

21:07

warning after warning and g was like, MO, like this can't happen again,

21:11

Like now corporates on my ass. You know sometimes people are listening to

21:14

the radio. You're not even on the radio. They're oh, MO has the day off? No, MO, just ain't even here yet. How

21:18

many times can jeez? You know? Yeah? Yeah, so he had

21:21

my back, man, he really did. But and he gave me those

21:23

warnings like if this happens again, Mo, but this is probably like one

21:26

hundred times, I don't know, like I can't do this. I have

21:30

to let you go, Like now the uppers are in on this. I

21:32

got to do my job. I said, okay, no problem, won't be laid ever again. Shit next day guess what? Okay, maybe not

21:37

the next day, but it happened again, obviously, and he was just

21:41

like and I could tell he was so hurt because I knew it was coming.

21:44

Yeah. Well yeah, So what was the routine like of you,

21:48

of you coming in and then what did they say? Where did you go?

21:52

No? I don't remember, but it's that typical radio stuff, like

21:55

you feel it, like you feel sonics going down, like everyone's like the

21:59

energies heard in the studio, like I felt it. And then he might

22:03

have just been like, this is what it is. And was it the classic thing where you do or they have you do the whole show first,

22:08

because I heard that's what they do so you don't talk shit? Yeah yeah,

22:11

oh yeah, probably because it's been incidences in radio. One happened in

22:15

early two thousands. I can't remember who it was now, but they let

22:18

someone go and let her do her show. After that, she went off

22:23

on the air. Oh my gosh, I'll never forget that. I wish

22:26

I could remember. It was a classic. I'm sure you could find it

22:29

on YouTube. But she was like this and that's why she just like told

22:33

everybody's business. But I mean, and I would never have done that anyway,

22:36

because it was my fault. I remember a memory I have from that

22:41

is I was upset. I was but at you because you were such a

22:45

talent and we were all so disappointed you really did it to yourself. I

22:51

did, and we would just be like, you know, just to be

22:55

open and honest. I was like, she's stupid, Like, she's so

22:59

stupid for doing that. And the older I get and the more I look

23:02

back on it, I'm like, damn. You know, like obviously everything happens for a reason. I wonder what that reason was. When I got

23:07

fired that day. You know what I did. I left the studio,

23:10

signed my little paper, literally left the studio. I think I had a

23:14

Honda at the time. God, my Honda. Drove straight to the cemetery

23:17

to Boogie's gravesite, right, and I just bawled for like two hours straight,

23:23

sat there cried, just oh it was it was. I mean,

23:26

I know y'all haven't had a heartbreak before, right, that feeling in your

23:29

heart like I can't explain it right, Like you got cheated on, Like

23:33

it's the worst. I can't as like triple triple that. It was horrible,

23:37

right, So I sat there crying, crying, And then right after

23:41

that, I went and got this tattoo right here, just this one, and it says time waits for no Man. So my last name is man.

23:48

So instead of putting time weights for no man, which is the saying, right, I put time weights for no mon to remind myself, you

23:52

fucking idiot, you got fired over being late. Like, think about it,

23:56

you know. I mean, it's that's just literally what it was,

24:00

what you get fired for for being late. People don't understand it when I

24:02

say that, but that's just what it was, you know. And so

24:06

trust me, to this day, you're supposed to have no regrets, and maybe I don't. Maybe I don't regret it. It's been a while now,

24:10

but I'm like, what the fuck? You know? So then after

24:14

that was you jumped over to the competition, right, wasn't it like literally

24:18

the next day or that day. I just remember that day. Wow,

24:22

Wow, I just got we got to remind people listening because they're not radio

24:26

savvy, not everybody, but in radio, word gets around like something happens

24:30

in radio. Everybody knows what they posted on like that radio. Yeah,

24:34

and even if they don't post it, somebody's like someone is gonna know before

24:38

you even tell anybody, which is crazy. Yeah. So word got out

24:41

fast, like I think fast. I think I had God, like everybody

24:45

knew within like an hour for some reason. That's just how radio is,

24:48

right exactly. And then I got a phone call and I can't even remember,

24:52

So you got recruited? Yeah, am phone call? Wow, Okay,

24:56

okay, come over here, you know, come you remember who called

24:59

you? I don't. I want to say Tommy, but it might have

25:03

been. He was the people like come through, come over here, get

25:07

on the air tonight. And I was on the air night. I remember.

25:11

I remember I was listening because I wanted to know, like I wanted

25:15

to know like this I want I wanted to know. Now that you're saying

25:19

this, I do remember all of us were like wet because what is she

25:25

gonna say? Oh my god, that we got Carmen podcast. You're gonna

25:34

hear mo literally from the like somebody comes into the pick up the tickets They're

25:37

like, who is that? And what is happening? Back there's a little

25:41

toy, you know what. And it's funny that she brings up my laugh

25:45

because when I was doing the morning show with G and Dre, they used

25:48

to always like harass me about my laugh, Like I tried to check as

25:51

loud as I remember, like, yeah, Jisel is shutting you up several

25:55

times hours like mo too, Yeah it's embarrassing means I remember the yeah,

26:06

I'm so. We got people out there trying to work and ship used to

26:11

get your laugh, that's right, But yeah, man, my laugh like

26:19

that kind of got in the way of some things too. I mean,

26:22

I can't help it. But they liked it or did they not like it?

26:26

I can't remember, but y'all used to hate it though, yes, used to still still I really try to control it, but sometimes it just

26:33

comes out. Anyways, let's get back on track. So, uh,

26:36

you're that was it? Yeah? You got You were at the competition.

26:38

They threw you on air that day and I think it was I want to

26:42

say it was Davy to put you on, and I just remember he was

26:45

like, we're gonna shake the city up. He was like this is about

26:49

to go crazy, and I already knew what was gonna happen. We already

26:52

knew, and I just wanted to see like how most sounded or what she

26:56

was going to say. And yeah, they put you on that was that

26:59

was Yeah. Well I guess I can't really say the station, but you

27:02

can say, yeah, okay. So that was the other station in Fresno with the same format, Q ninety seven and that was out in Vicealia.

27:11

Yeah, we've talked about it in the House episodes. Yep, it was.

27:14

It was similar to a house. We used to call it the basis, similar to house. It was a house. It was a house made

27:18

into a studio. Yeah, so what was the offer you're gonna do?

27:22

What show? Oh gosh, she you put me on the spot probably started

27:26

off as like weekends or some ride or weekends, because I don't know days.

27:32

Is this during the time. I mean, I guess we could kind of jump, you know, we don't want to kind of take too long

27:37

on it. But was this the era of you going to different stations like

27:41

you for a minute, I don't remember, Like they like I have nothing

27:45

but love for everybody there. They just like became my bros. Like I

27:49

loved it there, just like I loved it here. You know what I'm

27:52

saying. I mean fit right in, drove to Vicealia every damn day.

27:59

We called it the basement, went to the basement, did my show.

28:03

It was great and that now that's the story of because I got fired from

28:07

there too, right yeah up, let me just jump to that story because

28:11

to this day that story is fucking crazy. But the reason I got fired

28:17

from Q ninety seven because everything was all good. I was doing my thing, having great times. This is a very long story. Short, long

28:22

story short. There was a concert. I don't even know who it was.

28:25

I think Drake. Yeah, I mean, come out here, it'd

28:29

have been Drake. I remember, No, I don't remember. Kendrick opened

28:33

for Drake. Yeah. Then when Kendrick came upstairs here at the station first

28:38

went to that show. Yeah I didn't know. That is when Kendrick opened

28:41

and it was a Drake. Was this Wow? This was this full Circle

28:45

Arena or probably Save Mark Center and this check this fucking crazy ass story out.

28:52

So so a winner had one tickets to the Drake show. Mind,

28:56

you were in Vicelia. I want to say the show was that night,

29:00

right, So somebody affiliated with the radio station. I'm not gonna say no

29:04

names. I don't want to go there. But someone affiliated with the radio

29:07

station called me and was like, hey, do you mind taking the winner

29:12

who lives in Fresno taking their tickets to the Save Art Center, meet them

29:18

there, give them their tickets there. It was that type of thing. Okay, and mind you my memories kind of shot, but that was the

29:22

main thing, and I was just like, okay, yeah, cool,

29:25

I'll do that. So I did that long story short, get to the Savemart Center. While I'm there, right, and this is a long story

29:30

short. While I'm at the Save Art Center, I am calling and you

29:33

guys know me, I'm not about no shady ass fucking shit. I was

29:36

in radio hell of years prior to that. I've had advantage of getting any

29:40

tickets I want. And just like we all did an we could go wherever

29:44

we want, do whatever we want, right for free. So I'm there,

29:48

I'm calling the listener to say, hey, I'm over here at this

29:52

location, meet me for your tickets. I had no service, like literally,

29:56

I was trying to get a hold of this participant, could not participant.

30:00

Sorry, I'm thinking about my listener. Listener, Yeah, texting and

30:03

calling. I just there was no service for some reason at the same Mart

30:06

center wherever I was. Yeah, and so I'm just like, this is annoying. I'm trying to like go into the show because of course I have

30:11

my own tickets. Ago I'm trying to go on the show. Like, how am I gonna keep just waiting out here? So I'm okay, let

30:15

me go inside and then I'll just keep hitting them from inside and then I'll

30:18

go outside and give him his tickets. Long story short, it was even

30:21

worse Thanside couldn't get a hold of my dad show starting, and shit, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I wasn't worried about it no more.

30:26

I kind of forgot because I'm I'm in the mix. I'm a shit Drake's

30:29

coming out like it was that type of thing, right, Long story short.

30:33

Listener never got the tickets. Long story short, it just never happened.

30:37

The next day, I come to work the GM at the time,

30:40

now my program director because he always had my back, but the general manager,

30:44

you know, kind of the ones that never been a program director's boss.

30:48

Yeah, so literally came down pissed off, didn't ask me anything about

30:52

the situation. Literally basically told me I'm done. Wow, didn't even let

30:56

me explain why the listener did not get the tickets because the listener's mama called

30:59

and compleat rightfully, So I would too, I'd be pissed. I even

31:03

offered, I will go to T mobile and get a print out of how

31:06

many times I called in Texas Listener to get the tickets. But somehow it

31:10

just didn't happen. I had no service. Literally, it was just that dumb of a story and it just never happened, right, And I'm like,

31:15

damn, I should never have done this a favor for this person to

31:18

hook him up and give him the tickets anyway, I should have just had him drive to fight sales. So basically, they never got their tickets,

31:22

so they were a mad. Yeah, of course, and I understand,

31:25

Yeah, thousand percent. I would be pissed as hell. But you're gonna

31:29

fire me over that. You're supposed to be loyal. I'm your I'm your

31:32

loyal like on your personality you think I would like, I don't know what

31:34

they thought, Like he didn't even give me a chance to explain myself,

31:38

like this is what happened. Bro, it was just kind of like,

31:41

oh, yeah, you're kind of out of here. We got to complain. Damn. It was so crazy. You know, I back you hundred

31:48

percent on how they did that. My question is, I'm just trying to

31:52

put myself in that situation. I would be contacting this person through my drive

31:57

through like throughout the day the men I got the ticket, this I was

32:01

asked to take, Like this was literally late like probably after my together.

32:06

It was last thing like this person said, Hey, I was gonna go

32:10

up there and grab the tickets, but I'm in Fresno. Can you just

32:14

grab them on your way out and give him to the to the listener. It was I was doing a favor for somebody else, right, And it's

32:20

still follow me because I accepted the favor. Yeah, I'll do it,

32:22

no problem. But I should have said no, because you know, it just gets too sometimes like and that's obviously what happened. Literally, that is

32:28

that's the story. Damn. Like it's like, if you really like fucked

32:31

with me and knew what I brought to the table at this radio station and

32:34

how much passion I had for how much love I had, you would call

32:37

me in and be like, mo, what happened. He didn't even do that. The thing is, they could have made it up to the listener

32:42

in a way, giving them some other tickets. And just like, if

32:45

anything, I most suspend you, but I feel like even a suspension is

32:50

a lot would have been wrong. But that would have been better than getting

32:52

fired. Yeah, exactly, like literally and I and I and I felt so bad for that listener of course, because I would never do such a

32:57

thing, right. My intention was to get in the tickets. It just

33:00

got the night just got fucked. But I sent I think his mom or

33:02

him a nice email explaining how sorry it was what happened. And the mom

33:07

even wrote me back like not all pissed, but just but saying I understand.

33:10

I was pissed. Of course I'm pissed, but I understand, you

33:14

know, like she had respect for what I did. They let go of the guy that you did the favor for you. No, he was one

33:20

of the headhunters. Yea, yeah, he was one of the head on

33:22

because he's really the root of the reason. Yeah. Yeah. I never

33:28

brought that up, never said nothing. I just couldn't believe it. I

33:30

was just like, okay, we're doing this again, all right? I never knew that. Yeah, okay, so that's fire number two. Then

33:36

what did you do after that? Then? I got a phone call maybe

33:38

that day or the next day from program director in Bakersfield. Jay read fucking

33:46

dog to this day man. And that's that's the great thing. I still

33:49

got such a great relationship with all my former program directors, you know what

33:52

I'm saying. But he called me and was like, ever thought about Bakersfield?

33:57

And I was like, uh no, to be honest, I haven't,

34:00

but Shit talk to me, and long story short, he just basically

34:02

said, you know, we might have an open position if you're interested to

34:05

come check it out this and that I went, you know, you introduced

34:07

me to the guys there and said, you know, let her get on

34:10

air just to see how you feel in it. Long story short, I

34:14

did that obviously, fell in love with it, and shit moved out there

34:17

like two months later, got me apartment. And how long were you at

34:22

that station that was hot? A few years? Yeah? Yeah, it was that. It was HITS ninety three point one, which was like pop

34:30

station. Yeah, you know, like justin Timberlake and stuff like that.

34:35

And they gave you more responsibilities there too. If I'm not mistaken, I

34:38

feel like it was weren't you like the promotions director too or someone? Yeah,

34:43

well that was that Q ninety seven. Oh okay, promotions. Yeah,

34:46

I was doing helping with the promotions and all that at Q ninety seve,

34:49

which I absolutely loved. And I think you didn't you tell me you

34:52

enjoyed Bakersfield, like you know what I did. I mean, so many

34:54

people talk shit about Bakersfield, like, ain't nothing out there, It's just

34:57

a pit stop, you know, and whatever. But I got out there

35:00

and I was by myself, and I got my own spot, and I

35:05

go to the radio station every day. I got an apartment literally across the

35:07

street from the radio station from here, like to the Marriott. It was

35:09

that convenient for me. And I was at the studio all day, and

35:13

I had all the my boys were my boys or like my big bros,

35:16

my family, like at the station every day. And then what do you

35:21

know, I started getting all these gigs. So every night I'm like out hosting stuff in a city where I don't know anyone, which actually felt good,

35:27

like I didn't know anyone. And then on the weekends, I could

35:30

just go out anywhere looking ugly as hell because I didn't know anyone. So

35:34

that part of it was different. And I didn't have to be like, oh, let me get cute just in case I see someone and they want

35:37

to take a pic. Heyll No, nobody knew me in Bakersfield, and that was kind of a I don't know, I kind of liked that for

35:42

a while. In the beginning, it was like lokey, it was like

35:45

low key. Yeah, it felt good. But then you know, I

35:47

started doing more remotes, more events, more clubs, hosting stuff. It

35:52

started to get real lit. Yeah, and I was doing everything by myself,

35:55

you know, and we were keeping we were in touch. Now I'm

36:00

sure, and I think you didn't get fired or did you. I think

36:04

you to leave. Yeah, that's what I remember that. Oh, that's

36:07

what happened. I was trying to remember, like why you left Baker's.

36:10

Yeah, I didn't want to. I didn't want to. I remember we

36:14

would conversate it. Now it's hitting me, Yeah, you would. You would ask me like what should I do? Yeah, I stay here.

36:20

I wanted to stay, but you know, I needed my family around me

36:22

and all. Yeah, you were saying I remember our conversations. Yeah,

36:27

that is so crazy and and so I mean, and it wasn't. I

36:30

was in denial because I knew. I was thinking like, Okay, when I have this baby, how am I going to do this out here?

36:35

Like you know what I mean? Plus I needed time bonding with my baby.

36:38

It was just so many different thoughts. But I couldn't imagine myself leaving

36:42

radio. So I told my boss I'll be back and he was like,

36:45

no, you won't. Like he knew, you know, but I couldn't say those words, you know that I was leaving. And here's another funny

36:50

thing. When I was getting ready to, you know, do my last

36:52

days in radio, I got a phone call from the program director in Las

36:57

Vegas and she offered me a fucking caig yet Vegas for a little bit.

37:01

Or no, didn't do Vagae, Oh you turned it Downburquerque, New Mexico.

37:05

While I was in Bakersfield, I got another station and I was voice

37:07

tracking for them. I was recording. I forgot the name of the station,

37:12

but it was a station now in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Shout out

37:14

to me was like a station the opportunity. Yeah, I kind of like a sister station to the Bakersfield Company. So I was I had a show

37:21

out there and then the show and Bakersfield at the same time. But when I when I had made the decision for sure, okay coming up, I

37:27

got a bounce. I got to get out of Bakersfield. It was I

37:30

think I might have been about seven eight months pregnant at that time. I

37:32

got a phone call to come to Vegas and do Vegas Radio, and you

37:35

turned it down. And I had been wanting to do Vegas radio. I had to turn it down. I was eight months pregnant. They wanted me

37:40

to pop yeah, And I was like, was it that female that female

37:45

program director? Yeh, do you remember her name? She was like big,

37:50

she was a big name in the radio. I forgot her name. I'm losing it in my mind. I know. I don't like, oh

37:57

yeah, yeah, you know, you know, I know, I know

38:00

because yeah, okay, so that never happened, So that never just stayed

38:02

here. Yeah, well you came back here, you had your son,

38:07

had my son, and you're on mom mode for years. Oh yeah,

38:10

I didn't work for a minute, because then what got what got you back

38:15

into radio? Gizo says, I had a part of it. I don't

38:20

remember, and I don't either. I assumed that an opening happened and magic

38:24

had through your name and a hat. That's what I thought, you know

38:27

what you saying that? I can you can you remind me who the p

38:30

D was at that time? Had to be ste No, it wasn't Tony.

38:37

It wasn't Tony because I left. Yeah, Steve Weed, All right,

38:39

Okay, I think if I'm not mistaken, I think you're right,

38:45

Like, because you are APD, that's it's a program director. You through

38:52

that flex and I said that it's it's been years. Yeah, I want

38:55

to say you did do that, and I think it was just like a

38:58

part time weekend thing, but just to get you back and get her back in the building, because the plan is always once you're in the building,

39:04

something will happen. You're a good worker, and so I knew that would

39:08

happen for you. So I think I think you're right. I did.

39:10

I did a fight for you to get back weekends or something like that,

39:15

and then you did. Right, Yeah it was weekends, but I would

39:17

be here all the time. I don't know what the hell I was doing,

39:19

but I was always around and then this is sort of like wrapping up

39:22

your radio career. Did you get a full time gig during that stint of

39:28

getting back Yes, because you did the night show night Oh wow. So

39:31

from there the night position opened up. They offered it to me. Of

39:34

course, I said yes, and then I started doing Yes. Then I

39:37

started doing nights for a minute. So I did nights for a while,

39:39

absolutely loved it. It was a struggle because my son was like what two

39:45

years old at that time. Three I mean between us three and the rest

39:47

of the world listening, I had to bring him to work with me sometimes.

39:51

I remember struggle. He used to be in the background talking and shit, and I'm trying to do a live talk break. I'm like, oh

39:55

my god, one day I'm gonna get caught. But I had to do

39:59

what I had to do, man, And so he would be in the studio with me many times while I was doing my show. But was this

40:04

around twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, Yeah, it had to be, yeah,

40:07

twenty nineteen. This was COVID COVID twenty twenty, so it was the

40:10

beginning of twenty twenty. Okay, so it was right before that, huh

40:14

yep, So yeah, because I've been out of radio three. It'll be

40:20

four years in August, I think, And this is a good way to

40:22

kind of, you know, wrap up the storyline of the beginning of MO

40:29

and I meeting when I first moved here, and the during that time of

40:36

twenty twenty, the nationwide layoffs from iHeartRadio, Heart Radio because we were going

40:42

to be taken over by as they say, robots. Yeah, so can

40:45

you any memories from that lege? Yeah. The memories I have is when

40:50

the big dogs came down and they would have like meetings in our studio while

40:53

we were at work. They would come Visita Corporate. Corporate was here.

40:58

They were in and out. We and you always know something's going on in radio, so we all had like we're like kind of on the edge of

41:02

our seats, like something's happening, Like they keep visiting here. It was

41:06

something as weird, the energy's off. It was going on for weeks, you know. And then I remember one of the guys came in to talk

41:13

to me about my job and what I do and how I feel about it

41:15

and all this shit, and I was like, what is happening? Yeah,

41:17

did you go through that interview process where you're trying to corporate people.

41:21

I didn't. Yeah, yeah, same year. Yeah, yeah, we

41:23

all did. I think they were talking to everyone. I think they made

41:27

it very obvious. I don't know about you, guys. I didn't think

41:30

anything of it. You didn't, No, I did. I thought it was weird because I'm like, the fuck is going on around here? The

41:36

energy just felt off. I was in a different situation. I got bamboozled

41:40

because this is just a side story of They put me into this class of

41:49

ten people and it was an online class for a month to train, you

41:55

know, how to be a PD. What Visa our boss now out,

42:00

Visa was in that class. I was in that class. So in my head, I'm like, oh, they're training me for the future. So

42:06

those meetings, I didn't have anything to it different. That's but ironically still

42:10

well, I will say, I think this is where it all fucked up

42:13

for me. I specifically remember the corporate people were like, so, what

42:16

do you think about country music somewhere else? At the time, I was

42:21

young. I was you know, I think I forget how I was,

42:24

but you were younger, late thirties, So I was like, nah,

42:30

Like I kind of said at nonchalan like no, it's not my thing right

42:32

now, not really understanding radio, like just I mean, I'm not mad

42:37

at that though, Like I feel like I would say no, right even

42:40

if I knew my job was on the line, like no, I'm not

42:43

going to sell out, you know, I mean just to have a job,

42:45

because that's completely different. But what if they asked you, would you

42:47

do pop? Would you do pop? Because that's what happened to me in

42:50

Bakersfield. I was like pop, you better give me hip hop. But

42:52

then I was like I could do pop, like I could do pop trees

42:55

just kind of out of them, like well, now that I'm older,

42:58

like I actually enjoy country. But I think that was my demise when I

43:04

was like nah, because they oh they offered, not offered me, but

43:07

they said, what do you think about programming country? And I was like nah, I remember this, yes, And I think that was my demise.

43:15

Huh. So wonder like I can't use you no more? So,

43:17

how how was the layoff? Do you remember that day? Like when it

43:21

happened? Yeah, because me and you got fired that same day, didn't

43:24

well, well, I don't know. I don't think it was the same

43:27

day unless maybe was it the same day. I don't I actually don't remember

43:31

that. Yes, it had to be. We pulled up into the parking

43:36

lot at the same time because they said come in for a meeting. I already knew what that meant. I knew one hundred percent I was fired,

43:40

right, So that's why you said come in for a meeting. I think

43:43

it was two PM or ten am or it was early. Huh, it

43:45

was early early and I pull up in the parking lot. No one was

43:49

your Yeah, Magic pulls up. I'm like, oh shit, we both

43:52

getting fired. But then when we got out the car, I was like we were talking about it, like damn, this is it, and I'm

43:55

like, man, you're not going nowhere. They're not going to fire you.

43:58

I'm thinking, why the fuck would they it? We got fired on

44:01

the same day. I'll never forget that long ass walk up the fucking stairs

44:05

to his office and then you go in the office. Typical ship. You

44:07

know, I've been through this a few times already, routine fucking contract on

44:12

the table. He's sitting right there like, oh, come on in.

44:15

So Moe was one of the first ones to get let go, and we

44:19

were like you weren't in the building. You you didn't come until after time,

44:21

but I was getting the play by play though, Yeah, you were

44:23

giving me the play. Yeah, because then the Spanish station people there starting.

44:31

You just saw like people packing up and I'm witnessing all this and you

44:35

know what, hurt my feelings a lot, and they do this to everyone. It wasn't just the MOE thing, but it's so fucking annoying. It's

44:40

just when you get fired, they have to like assist you. They have

44:45

to walk you everywhere you go and get your stuff, like calm down, anybody gonna get on the air and talk shit like you know, and then

44:50

they have to walk all your ship protocol, walk you to your office to

44:54

get all your belongings. I was like, I didn't like that. I

44:57

think out of everything, I was like, dude, if you don't get

45:00

off my back. And again we got to mention this was a nationwide thing

45:02

and they were trying to just cut down to a small I mean yeah,

45:07

smaller group and this was happening the whole with the whole company. So yeah,

45:10

we just saw all these people like leaving carrying boxes and I think I

45:15

called so many people and Gise you might have been one of them. I

45:17

was like, I think I'm next. And I remember talking to Visa.

45:22

I was like, I think I'm next, and he was like no. I was like, I have a feeling and I'm just walking in the hallways

45:28

and Steve catches me in the hallway our GM and he's all magic fall me

45:32

and no out loud. I go no, I go like that like in

45:38

the hallway, that's funny. I go no, and he just like put

45:42

his head down and to just Steve always tells the story how that was like

45:45

the like you know, he was in the room. Yeah, yeah,

45:52

I don't want to do this, but I've been like the whole you know, because to be honest, I mean, in his defense, it wasn't

45:58

his choice. And we had such a great team. Yeah, we did

46:00

have a good team in front of him literally like a fan because we were

46:05

all friends from the beginning. Yeah yeah, I mean we really came because

46:07

Carmen was here during that time too, So we were all like here at

46:10

the same time together and we had all we had all finally had like we're

46:15

all full time, we're all on the squad together. Yeah, and then you know, remember, so we got you're right, we got laid off

46:21

at the same day, right, No, I was. I think maybe later on I did, but I remember calling you and I was like,

46:28

it happened to me too, and you were like what And we met for lunch and yeah, that's right. Start talking about this. I know,

46:37

I remember that. That's crazy and you would think. I mean, that wasn't my first rodeo, but it still cuts deep, man, like you

46:43

know what I mean, especially when it's not your fault. So that was

46:45

your last radio gig, right, Yeah, that's it years ago. That

46:50

was it. And now what are you doing now? You're doing a great thing for the community. Yeah. Now I'm working with young adults between the

46:57

ages of sixteen and twenty four, those who have been previously incarcerated. Once

47:00

they get out and they need that guidance and need to get back into the

47:02

workforce. You know, I help out with that. So completely different.

47:07

But you know, I relate to the kids like I did when I was

47:09

in radio. I'm on their level. You know. They can talk to

47:13

me, vent to me, and I'm still still mo you know, and

47:16

uh you know you get that, you ever get that itch? Still I

47:21

do? Yeah, even knowing how the radio business, especially when I like,

47:25

you listen to some other people and you're like, I'm better than that.

47:30

I don't want to go there, but like, yeah, you know, I do get that right exactly. Oh yeah, fact, yeah yeah.

47:38

So I mean there's always that passion, right, It's not something you

47:40

turn on and off like it's like some real shit, you know what I

47:44

mean. That's the difference between me, I think, and a lot of people. It's a real path, like a real I had a real love

47:49

for it, and I still do, you know. It's just life is

47:51

different. And I always wonder, like, Okay, I got fired from

47:53

that night show, what was a reason? Like you know, they say there's always a reason, and I wonder, like what was the reason?

47:59

Maybe it was so I could be more present with my kid, because when

48:02

I look back now, I put radio before everything, like before friends before

48:07

family. With radio calls, I'm there. I'm not asking anyone any questions.

48:12

I'm just there. You need me for an interview, you need me

48:14

to show up to this event, you need me to host. I am there no matter what time, no matter what day, I'm there. That's

48:19

just that's that's what I want to do. And I feel like I did

48:22

that so much and just wasn't available in other areas and so when radio like

48:28

you know, canceled for me, I was just well, my baby,

48:30

like you know, so maybe maybe that was the reason, you know, I mean, I don't know. Well you're doing great things now, thank

48:37

you, and yeah, life is different, man, do you have I

48:39

have one last question? But do you have anything? Jazee? No,

48:42

I mean one thing that I got to say that I've always said this is

48:45

just like from a talent perspective, I always felt that Moe was just wanted

48:49

to just naturally talented and on air personalities that I've ever heard, like,

48:53

I mean across the board. It's just she couldn't fucking be here on time,

48:58

Like if you could have just fixed that, like honestly, like just straight talent. Why is like one of the best I've ever heard. But

49:04

with this episode, that's the reason why she was sought after. She kept

49:07

getting offered, and that's why I wanted her back because I knew her talent.

49:12

Yeah, I appreciate that you guys, like man, so many good

49:15

memories, so many good times, and the chemistry we had was so important.

49:17

Yeah, it was a lot of fun. I mean call everyone your

49:21

bros. No, like these are bros. Like this is fucking like That's why I tell people like my friends are my co workers, you know what

49:28

I'm saying, Like literally not like, oh we work together, so we

49:30

just go out after for work like no, like these are on my day

49:32

off, Like this is who I hung out with and then we go to

49:36

fucking work together. Like it doesn't get any better than that, you know. I mean like we've been through some ship, the ups the downs,

49:40

like you know what I'm saying. I want to sleep together at the club,

49:44

fall asleep toget the club we were. We were out and about all the time, and I literally fell asleep at a club one night. I

49:49

don't know what. It was my birthday and I think photo of it.

49:52

Yeah, that's all you need to say. Man, we were crashed out on the couch. I don't know what the so many good times, man,

49:58

last question before we end the episode. If you got offered a job

50:02

to come back here to do your own show same amount of pay as what

50:07

you're getting paid now your old job, at your new job that you're doing

50:09

currently, do you leave it to come back? Fuck man? Man?

50:15

Hopefully her other job ain't listening. I know, I don't know, to

50:22

be honest, and you say making the same or more like possibly, it's

50:27

just that the thing is like, I'm so secure with my job right now,

50:30

Like I feel so secure. Me and my boss are great, like I'm value you, happy, respected, like they fuck with me. They

50:37

know what I bring to the table, and I feel it, like I literally feel That's why I have so much respect for my boss and my company.

50:43

I do because they they respect me. Like I don't know how to

50:45

explain it. And if I was to come back to radio, what I

50:49

feel secure not necessarily a B ninety five thing, just a radio thing in

50:52

general. You're in radio, you're not secure. I hate to say,

50:55

you're just not. You could be here one day and guess what, tomorrow,

50:59

we're going to bring in seventeen year old motherfucker they just graduated school and

51:01

we're going to replace you with her because she's gonna be a lot cheaper.

51:05

And how much of a kick in the ass is that? But that's what

51:07

the fuck it is, and that's happened to me, and that shit's horrible and it makes you bitter. You know, the older you get, your

51:13

like a whatever. But that shit's terrible and that's just the state of radio.

51:16

There's no security in it. So that's the only reason that I would

51:20

say no. But if they said, hey, five year contract or whatever,

51:22

you know, yeah you go open. You got a weekend shit man

51:30

on your show side show. I don't show why, but man, it

51:36

was so fun having you on this episode. Yeah, year man, thank

51:39

you guys for having me. I really appreciate it. Yeah, it just

51:42

all comes to me. You still talk out of castle shit, you know

51:45

what I mean. But so man, Yeah, you're an incredible person and

51:49

like we said in the beginning, you're one of our great friends, and

51:51

I'm glad that we are still great friends to this day. Yeah, I

51:54

love it, y'all. Hit me up on Instagram at malicious you got to

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