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WBEZ Chicago, it's This American
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Life. I'm a manual very in for Ira
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Glass. So today
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show starts with an email that was sent in the
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summer of Twenty from man
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named Dr James Whitfield. And
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if you remember that summer everyone
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was sending our emails and tweets about
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race and racism in America statements,
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of unity from corporations When
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she ran tweeted, "We're not asking
1:04
you to buy our shoes, we are asking
1:06
you to walk and some announces" The
1:09
number one everyone on Instagram posted
1:11
black squares her day to show solidarity
1:13
with the black community. I'd started
1:15
to roll my eyes and all that mlk
1:18
and baldwin class. The
1:20
murder of George Boyd had forced the country and
1:22
to another racial awakening. In
1:24
school district outside Dallas, Texas,
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doctor James Whitfield had just been promoted
1:29
to high school principal, the school's first
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black principle. Watching everyone
1:34
send out these emails, such as corporate
1:36
brands, but also his peers, other educators
1:38
and administrators, "I've been up
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pretty much all night, could not sleep in,
1:43
I woke up at four thirty in the morning and
1:46
said have to craft something"
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The emails started by talking about the killings
1:51
of George Boyd, a mod Aubrey and
1:53
Brianna Taylor, and how these events have
1:55
brought forth the familiar enemy of racism
1:58
in America. The out. For
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so long these atrocities have occurred
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and we simply moved on with our daily lives
2:05
now, it appears as though we are collectively
2:07
using our voice to denounce systemic racism
2:10
and that inequities that people of color face
2:13
and daily basis and our country. He
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goes on to right from personal perspective
2:18
of black man who grew up in taxes
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he. writes I will be forty two
2:23
years old next month and never in my
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life have experienced this level of support
2:27
and it comes to issues of race or. cannot
2:30
begin to tell you how encouraging and has
2:32
been have so many of my white brothers
2:34
and sisters, but the status quo by
2:36
calling texting unashamedly
2:38
saying that black lace do indeed matter.
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He continued.
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I'm here with you to do whatever
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we need a do to disrupt. The
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mic racism or in eradicate
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it.
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Whitfield, enter the email and the way he ends many
2:52
of his emails and messages. They telling
2:55
people he loves them dearly which.
2:57
is kind of who he is approachable
2:59
warm approachable beloved figure a
3:01
cardigan wearing dad People
3:04
appreciated the email parents teachers
3:06
and students read to say thank you some
3:08
said they were ready to learn more one.
3:10
parent mentioned our freshening it was to
3:12
see school leader analysis
3:21
The Your Past Whitfield first year
3:23
since Bob and it's a tough one
3:25
because you know the pandemic sites
3:28
he made it through and, then arrived
3:31
at the summer of twenty one. it
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is very different landscape from the summer
3:36
and twenty to me In fact,
3:38
the script has slipped, summer conversations
3:41
have moved from let's all try and understand
3:43
and talk about systemic racism to let's
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never mentioned systemic racism.
3:49
This is especially true in Texas where
3:51
Dr Wakefield as and, texas
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for the conversation is suddenly all about
3:55
banning critical race theory There
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are theory, Crt. You've
4:00
probably heard about it is. way
4:02
to turret how racism is ingrained in
4:04
the american legal system and other
4:06
institutions but at this
4:09
moment see or t has become kind of
4:11
a bogeyman quick shorthand to
4:13
set on anything acknowledging racism
4:15
or even blackness That
4:17
would pass law and twenty one banning
4:20
CRT and schools. And
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during the school year, Dr Wakefield heard that
4:24
some people are grumbling about him on social media,
4:27
saying he's race warrior. The
4:29
online grumblings became public at school board
4:31
meeting and July that any when resident
4:33
points to it feels email got his
4:35
email, where he basically says it seems
4:37
like are ready to talk about race as country. He
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pointed to that email as proof
4:42
that he's indoctrinating students with
4:44
critical race theory. The
4:47
night out like expressed my concerns. Not
4:50
warrior myself but of many in our community.
4:52
The implementation of critical race theory artistic.
4:55
The get rid of using goals of the principle of
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causal her ties with James with the. The
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first made aware, Mr. With those extreme views on race.
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When a concern friend of mine share with me letter,
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he said the parents and students in some point
5:07
one.
5:08
The be clear in London refill does not teaching
5:10
seared he didn't propose educational
5:13
reforms in his email, he wasn't reshaping
5:16
the curriculum. He did support
5:18
an existing program at the school, I
5:20
tried to get kids into college, he wouldn't traditionally
5:22
go. The fact that add that
5:25
the program predated him. People
5:27
complained about an approving mention of the
5:29
Southern Poverty Law Center but
5:31
also that he quoted Gil Scott
5:33
Heron and an email saying the
5:35
revolution will not be televised.
5:38
And of course an email from twenty twenties
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were like everyone else and twenty twenty,
5:44
he denounces systemic racism.
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Later in his letter, he goes further, Mr
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Dutton all members or is O'clock. The
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really prefer that you don't.
5:53
The a particular employee of the district
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of the if you have any issues with. That
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you are. That
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are. By
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her.
6:04
"At the time it seemed absurd that this
6:06
would actually happen", said Dr Whitfield
6:08
would be fired. The handful of people
6:11
and. The board meeting demanding a respected
6:13
and newly hired principal be fired for
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promoting an academic theory he wasn't promoting
6:18
that, seems hard to imagine. but
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over the next few months that is what happened
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In August, the board. Dr Wakefield
6:26
on paid administrative leave the didn't
6:28
give reason why he, talked to the
6:30
media about it. in september
6:32
doctorate tell defended himself at board meeting
6:35
one of the items on the agenda where
6:37
said the district renew whitford contract for
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the next year Whitfield showed
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up for the public comments and, like everyone
6:44
else, he got one minute to speak. The'and
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and up to date with real doctor I board of
6:48
trustees.
6:50
A persona express my gratitude for
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the love, support and encouragement
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from the community. Lastly our students.
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Who have regretfully? Been
7:01
criticized for their speaking up in
7:03
this matter of stand before you today,
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no different. That was when
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I came in and eighteen nineteen.
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The twenty eighteen twenty nine teen school year
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when you first hired by the district.
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Narrative. Rockies or delete every student
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regardless of race, religion, sexual
7:19
orientation, whatever bucket you want to put a man
7:21
I believe they all have access to eight
7:23
they should have access to. Excellent, equitable
7:26
education, yes, said, those words of
7:28
fortunately my unapologetic sense
7:30
for those things as brought us here tonight,
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which is disheartening the attack from
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people outside is one thing. But outright
7:37
silence a direct access against towards
7:39
me by GSt leadership to discuss
7:41
the lives of two sides on get the same. What
7:44
are absolutely heartbreaking? I can
7:46
assure you have not say them feel the same, it's
7:48
a days when you Harmonix United you promote
7:50
it me twice in three years, so I ask
7:52
you what has changed since two lights what he's saying
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he's actually right? have right
8:00
The leaderboard, response
8:03
the that not to renew his contract I
8:06
reached out to the district and they said they were not going
8:08
to talk about this, but and
8:10
public statements they made earlier, they
8:12
said the decision was not based on people
8:14
calling for doctor Wait till to be fired. The
8:17
was a bunch of other reasons stuff like
8:19
insubordination a. facebook
8:21
post he wrote defending himself was not
8:23
okay with them against professional
8:25
conduct The doctor, the media,
8:28
and set filing formal complaints with the school.
8:31
They read this list at the meeting you here,
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students and parents who came to her for with
8:35
Feel. Got guy. The read.
8:38
The reason for the
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recommendation?
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After Whitfield has diminished his effectiveness
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by dividing large sections
8:47
of the community. continuing
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for reading the.
8:51
With a guy it there's, fans
8:53
went on for so long she never got
8:55
to finish the statement. it said
8:57
he was dividing large sections of the community
9:00
by quote continuing to raise
9:02
issues
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And what, how plan? Not
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him that. email didn't change
9:22
The black squares are gone from Instagram
9:24
the random reparations money from friends gone
9:27
we. went from anti racists books crowding the
9:29
best sellers list to banning kids books
9:32
about rosa parks The
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doctor Whitfield, the consequence of getting
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caught in this backlash, is he's no
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longer in the one place he really wants to be. When
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I spoke with him in early November, he
9:43
told me he was still dropping his kit off elementary
9:46
school. High school is across
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the street.
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Then I mean I'll look over there
9:51
with pets at can't just not
9:54
look right as my.
9:56
wife is just like would just traveled to add a look the
9:59
other way
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Can't that's
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all you know, as I'm
10:04
driving by you can see, you
10:06
know down the main one
10:08
of the main hallways. Right. That you think
10:10
windows and you see right down the hallway. And so
10:12
as I'm walking by man visioning.
10:14
the different classrooms and the teachers that i would
10:16
check on every morning and you know
10:19
it's three stories and so in bhutan
10:21
the morning by the time the first bill had
10:23
rung was already was ten thousand steps rights
10:26
because i'm running around misplaced second
10:28
on teachers and saw think about that every
10:30
morning And so. Yeah,
10:33
it's around. That
10:36
is really is really hard. Who?
10:40
The pass by. The
10:42
a place that you love.
10:44
You know that there's staff members that you
10:46
love in their the. students that you
10:48
love in there and That's
10:51
you know that's where you supposed to be an,
10:55
but like. is but you're
10:57
not if you're not allowed to be in
11:00
there Right like it's
11:03
oh. Look
11:06
how person is not allowed to be in
11:08
there, you know it's own.
11:12
The certainly.
11:19
Double to say.
11:20
The about race and racism in America
11:23
it moved it's, as though we were having
11:25
one argument and then terms changed.
11:28
and that system has left many black people
11:30
exposed and vulnerable and living
11:32
with those consequences This
11:34
backlash it's not surprising this
11:36
is what America does reconstruction,
11:39
than Jim Crow. the civil rights
11:41
movement to the war on drugs obama
11:44
to trump The now it's,
11:46
unsurprising that there is backlash. for
11:49
what i am surprised by his the way people
11:51
have been caught up and tangled and at the
11:54
choices they made either further twists themselves
11:56
along the line of what's acceptable or
11:59
move away from it The way black
12:01
people have had to reconsider what to say
12:04
and the fall out that comes with his choices are.
12:07
saturday to stories of people
12:09
trying to figure out what to say or
12:11
as they should say anything in this
12:13
moment upper class They were
12:15
there.
12:28
The place that is backlash is playing
12:30
out most dramatically isn't schools.
12:32
The regular school board meetings. They've
12:35
been a lotta time watching heated school board meetings
12:37
this year. The My parents are angry
12:40
about something as small as the email, Dr
12:42
Wakefield Row. The acidic book
12:44
they don't like. Or an effort to
12:46
diversify library's collection. Sometimes
12:49
it's any resolution to promote equity in
12:51
the school. A lot of
12:53
his parents repeat the same talking points
12:55
in these meetings across the country they.
12:57
say micro aggressions are not real what
13:00
about reverse racism and somehow
13:02
martin luther king jr comes up a lot The
13:05
what is example the boil down to, as
13:07
we shouldn't be talking about racism because
13:09
it's not thing anymore. The
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first thing I want to say.
13:14
The fact that traverse city is
13:16
not a racist city and, the
13:18
U. S., definitely
13:21
not racist. mentioned this is
13:23
from traverse city michigan
13:25
Ah about this brings says them will,
13:28
have been more change reason
13:30
why racism. ups
13:33
and downs for After
13:35
the ten day. The
13:37
keep on doing. What is it like to
13:39
be a kid in one of these towns? Cricket
13:41
the color, especially.
13:43
Some it other thing racism is a problem,
13:45
and other adults are saying it's not one at
13:47
all. For instance
13:49
the meeting it is heard from Traverse City what
13:51
so remarkable about this particular meeting
13:54
is. that what these parents are partially responding to
13:57
is clearly races incident in their schools
14:00
I've been talking to kid who was targeted in the
14:02
incident and sixteen year old Black Bi
14:04
racial girl named of A.I. about what
14:06
happened to her. And her story
14:08
is so much more personal and immediate,
14:11
the what you get from any of these meetings.
14:14
A quick warning this story may not be appropriate
14:16
for kids. It is. One.
14:20
The year ago no avail as a sophomore in high
14:22
school who didn't think about her blackness two
14:24
months. She lives in mostly
14:26
white house and ninety percent whites,
14:29
and yes she's often the only person of color
14:31
in given room. Including your family,
14:33
she's adopted their way. That
14:36
are journal, we're not filled with tragic, my girl
14:38
and wait and cliches. He was writing
14:40
fiction, fantasy, young adult
14:43
romance, ah, I love sex and
14:45
writing more than and.
14:45
Thing I could not write poetry or nonfiction
14:49
arm. and then i'm also really interested in psychology
14:52
and bomb i've taken my class food this
14:54
is among my second year taking it now on
14:57
i find it really interesting
14:58
When you say psychology, what is it about psychology
15:01
that like you're interested in? I
15:04
love learning about like.
15:05
Why people act the way they do in certain situations
15:09
like? the brain is cool but i'm more
15:11
on delay the behavior Oh,
15:13
psychology. There
15:15
is a self proclaimed over thinker.
15:18
The thing when you talk with her that makes
15:20
her feel both mature and young at the same
15:22
time is, that when she doesn't know something
15:24
she says she doesn't know it with such confidence
15:27
that you feel assured that some DCC will know that
15:29
thing. a year ago never
15:32
would have described her high school and her experience
15:34
there is typical
15:36
I'm in my, there are groups here and there,
15:38
but it's not like the oh you can't sit
15:40
with us or not that.
15:42
Her and not mean are also Joey now and
15:44
I like that it on the,
15:46
they had lot of friends she move in
15:48
and out of the bunch of different groups at school, and
15:51
then she had her inner. circle whenever
15:53
closest friends in that circle someone
15:55
to talk to daily or paul katie We
15:58
met in seventh grade and.
16:00
We went to the same school for a seventh
16:02
and eighth grade and so we really close and,
16:05
the ninth grade came along and I. move
16:07
schools but we still keep in contact
16:09
and we still like talked all the time
16:12
During the pandemic they would sit on face time together
16:14
and hang out Kitty, was person who
16:16
could talk know a damn and she was stressed specially
16:18
about school. they were also goofballs
16:20
together they goofballs together they mods to try
16:22
and outrageous outfits and crack each other The
16:26
research thing that happened ton of am the
16:29
thing that led to those heated school board meetings.
16:31
That happened in the spring of twenty one and.
16:34
Then it started with attacks from Katie.
16:36
And just said that she
16:38
was in this really. Like
16:41
messed up group chat with her friends are a
16:43
little late at night and I was tired so didn't
16:45
really like as. i okay
16:47
since really that bad you should leave i'm
16:49
gonna go to bed
16:50
The day I wasn't really sure what katie was talking
16:53
about, so she brushed it off. You
16:55
will get the next morning to more messages from katie
16:57
about what happened in the group chat. She
17:00
texted
17:02
me and she was like, Hey, like you were in it and
17:03
I was like, oh, was in it, like, what? What's
17:06
it about? and? then she told me,
17:08
she was just like, oh, they like bad
17:10
stuff. They're like, selling like people.
17:12
And was like, oh, the
17:14
group was slave with
17:16
Purple emojis is
17:18
about half a dozen mostly white students,
17:21
their Classmates for sale, your
17:23
pictures throwing out beds if
17:26
they're in an auction like slave
17:28
apparently
17:30
Nevaeh was one of the people in the chat who is
17:32
quote-unquote put up for sale. My
17:35
first reaction was, how much did I go
17:37
for? And who did go to full
17:40
honesty back? And she
17:43
said that i went
17:45
to her for free
17:45
in the chat is essentially a
17:47
private text read that after sometime
17:50
disappears. The future of the
17:52
Snapchat app. Some
17:54
students. Tell the school district about the chat,
17:56
the school called nevaeh's Mom and
17:58
the parents of others to While
18:00
her mom's on the phone with the school that it
18:02
all starts to sink in. And at that
18:04
point I was like, oh?
18:06
I was sold like don't know how
18:08
bad it is but assume it's not
18:10
that not the best and so
18:12
then I. asked my friend
18:15
or give me screenshots and she did This
18:17
is what they say. The screenshot,
18:20
one student. When up, niggers.
18:22
The group chat for making fun of black people.
18:26
In reply. Very nice. Another
18:29
screenshot. All blacks should die,
18:31
let's have another holocaust. The
18:34
a someone shares I. can curse
18:36
as another Picture
18:38
of black kid. Hum others
18:40
for fifty.
18:41
Man says he comes as a bonus
18:44
he's free. I'm an up and
18:46
man so gay or kill him for Jesus.
18:49
And other screenshot. Picture
18:51
of another black student.
18:53
-10 for autism. Someone says 50%
18:56
off sale. Picture
18:59
of two black teenagers. Someone
19:01
says they can run but they can't hide one
19:03
hundred each Double the Trouble. They
19:06
like picking cotton. Someone
19:08
makes an offer, I'll take them for hundred
19:10
and fifty as the pair. Another
19:13
screenshot picture in of A.M.
19:16
The than a red crop top and jeans and hat
19:19
posing year tree. The
19:21
underneath starting. bid one hundred
19:24
I'm on comments. Another, you
19:27
followed by another. And then
19:29
just so. Then in there, like. Running
19:32
like hit.
19:34
I was disgusted to,
19:36
the gut like it was just like oh my
19:38
gosh like joked to the students
19:40
before like. like can't
19:42
believe that they would think of typing
19:45
something that they thought like It
19:47
would be okay after like everything with black lives
19:49
matter this last year it
19:51
was just like wow okay showed.
19:54
me the The person they work.
19:56
It's almost like of a is inside the darker,
19:58
not funny version. The Eddie Murphy's get,
20:01
maybe you've seen at the one where he goes undercover
20:04
as white man and discovers all the things
20:06
white people do when there are black people in the room.
20:09
She had new window and fuller classmates
20:11
were and private and the screen. The
20:14
the spring'a twenty one like leads
20:16
to isn't remote phone. He went had
20:18
to face them until her junior year started
20:20
in the fall.
20:28
Never your mom, Taylor saw the screenshots
20:30
and the words "All blacks or die" and
20:33
worried front of a safety. The
20:35
emailed all the school board members went
20:37
back and forth with school administrators, she
20:39
felt like no one is taking it seriously. The
20:42
called the police. The police
20:44
investigated the group chats few
20:46
weeks later, they told Zealot that there were no
20:48
chargeable offenses. The you
20:50
can see is. I had that doesn't make
20:52
any sense because. There
20:56
with talk sounds. The line
20:58
are black.
20:59
Head and started another holocaust
21:02
to me that was a direct or indirect
21:04
threat of.
21:06
something that could potentially happen and
21:09
he just disregarded it as some
21:11
you know kids being kids and talk and map
21:14
The school get back to jailer and of air about
21:16
how they will handle the snapped her incident. Ultimately,
21:20
they say they will follow the district's policy for discipline
21:23
for the consensus civically what that meant. Nevada
21:26
was buried it, seemed like the whole
21:29
thing was can be swept under the rug and
21:31
she wanted people to know what happened. ten
21:34
done anything to be anything part of the snapshot except
21:36
be black Should you
21:38
speak up? That she worried over
21:40
that, too. They see something, will
21:42
people think I'm overreacting? When
21:44
I don't see anything or anyone else even know about
21:46
this.
21:48
In the and never made the decision to speak
21:51
she, talked to the press how it happened
21:54
Instead of disappearing, the story of mostly
21:56
white high schoolers auctioning off their black
21:58
classmates and a secret. The auction it.
22:01
got lot of attention I
22:03
personally have felt good talking about it,
22:06
she got a lot of support. People
22:08
reach out. He felt sense of relief.
22:11
The just as quickly as is happening
22:13
and many parts of America talking
22:15
about racism, intruder City and the to be
22:17
class. The be speaking
22:20
up, set up other bigger conversations
22:22
with racism in the community.
22:23
We went to a heated school board meeting where
22:26
some at all since the said to her city is not racist
22:28
place, any discussion of
22:30
racism, cause the division.
22:33
The dumping it was more important in of A.M.
22:35
with the backlash he got from her peers.
22:38
I'm kids turn to get tired of seeing the bay on the
22:40
news and didn't have a, it seems almost
22:42
irritated. He noticed a gradual
22:44
change, even among some of her friends.
22:47
There is a nice I've always hang out with them lot
22:49
and, I thought that we like. china
22:52
Had the same view point and
22:54
opinions on a lot of things
22:57
and, so then when this whole thing happened and they
22:59
started say oh why are people supporting about
23:01
it why that such that big deal that really showed
23:03
me like oh we disagree on such
23:05
big topic here like racism
23:07
like where did they stand in should
23:10
in let something like this determine my
23:12
friendship with someone or know
23:14
This question where, did the people around
23:16
me stand? it was the question that kept
23:18
coming up again and again and again
23:20
as and summer past and the school year approached
23:30
In the hall she went back to school in person
23:32
for the first time since the incident navy,
23:34
as junior. she looked around and
23:36
wondered who are my friends You
23:38
can I trust? The think that okay,
23:41
was sold and a slave trade. Then
23:43
do you think Sir South I can be friends with anybody?
23:47
One of the kids he participated in a snapshot
23:49
slave trade I'll call him Luke. They
23:52
were texting right after that incident
23:54
and again just before school started.
23:56
The tax said, like, oh, my gosh, I'm so sorry
23:58
about a low blast. A man
24:00
I've had other student come up with mean be like he's really
24:03
sorry here. In
24:05
scared of you and how he? Good,
24:08
yeah, he's going to an ass at the second
24:10
time he sent me apology, he was like, "Oh, I want to be friends
24:12
with you again and I'll say okay like" I'm
24:15
cool with being friends with anybody. The
24:18
tax, it a little. That it wasn't the same.
24:21
The chatterbox in a joke certain of as they.
24:23
were old friends they've known each other since middle
24:26
school That you gonna talk
24:28
to look about what happened. Then, but
24:30
he just wanted to move past it without ever addressing
24:32
it. Then it is, it's
24:34
just got weird because it felt like. I mean,
24:36
there was something we can discuss. Between each other and.
24:39
it was sick Line.
24:41
Between us that I was just like car awkward
24:44
and, so i just start talking
24:47
to him Luke was the first friend
24:49
of A was forced to make a decision about. Maybe
24:51
she couldn't be friends with everyone.
24:54
The week pass, she started ignoring him
24:56
like, as she sees in the halls, you look at her phone
24:59
walk to the other side.
25:01
Being away from Luke, many distance herself from
25:03
other friends like her one
25:05
for know, Kalia. She's a hey
25:07
like I know. How
25:09
wrong?
25:10
Like what he did but I am friends with him
25:12
and told her like hey like I'm.
25:14
not gonna Then be the one to tell you who
25:17
you can and cannot be friends with, like, if you wanna be friends
25:19
with him, he can be friends with them. And
25:21
I've just been like a if you if, but if you are
25:23
friends with them. Understanding consider the fact
25:25
of like I'm not going to be around as much like I'm.
25:28
not gonna hang out with him with your had me out with I'm
25:31
not gonna hang out with him at all in general I.
25:34
think it's hard for her to lake I
25:37
guess let him go.
25:39
Then of a, it has to navigate this new social
25:41
landscape on her own. That did not
25:43
simple. If one
25:45
time a couple months ago. They
25:47
would meeting the at football game she
25:49
got to the stands and Luke was there never.
25:52
had no idea he would be there I'm
25:55
like and be baby about this I can. The
25:58
mature and don't have to speak to him.
26:00
I'm not going to make a big deal out of this,
26:02
so then I was like, okay, like. want
26:04
to watch the games all day.
26:06
The game started, Leah called a player
26:08
trash for making bad play. Luke,
26:11
who's behind of air with his buddies defensive
26:14
player, marks girl who shouted, calling
26:16
her mean telling our he'd never say
26:18
something so mean. It wrong
26:20
and of as ears. Then I just like
26:22
stopped by like turnaround was like.
26:25
Really and. and
26:27
he looked at me
26:29
And he is mounties like dropped open
26:32
cars, and then his friends are like navan
26:34
of as you don't need to bring that up like. I'm
26:37
on know. of no thank you like
26:39
he's already been through enough Then
26:41
I didn't want to cause trouble for Luke. He
26:44
was some well. You just can pretend
26:46
that nothing happened. You can stop
26:48
questioning a lot of her relationships. Even
26:51
her relationship with katie It
26:53
would never clear ton of.
26:54
It. Can be had participated in the chat
26:57
they, were friends kiddies the one who told
26:59
her about the chat it didn't make sense that
27:01
she would have joined the. Katie
27:03
had said she'd bought know they are for, free that
27:06
detail stuck, with Nevada then
27:08
she started to hear from other people Katie. had
27:11
said stuff was a true
27:14
The screenshots katie Son of A I didn't have
27:16
the phone conversation and,
27:18
a screenshot she does have kiddies has nothing
27:21
Wasn't possible they were something in the missing
27:24
parts of the chat and, have a wondered
27:26
did she laughed at me to each place any bids.
27:29
know she probably stayed quiet and say anything
27:32
she's the reason i even know what happened Libya
27:35
was scared to ask her so she didn't they.
27:37
continued to be friends but the uncertainty weight
27:40
and of am ah
27:41
As much as I'd like to think she wasn't the type person
27:44
to do this all of these people who are in the
27:46
groups or weather friend or her friends she hung out with
27:48
them every day she, was surrounded by
27:50
them all the time she. faced
27:52
i'm them she joked with them The time
27:55
and. They made jokes like these.
27:57
All the time. The guy who started it.
28:00
With it. ' he was
28:02
just a rude race's person
28:06
and,' so she's surrounding yourself with such
28:08
rude races people like that eventually
28:11
She's gonna adopt, that
28:13
and adopt that kind of behavior on,
28:16
mean I learned it in psychology, so. sorry
28:21
this is a
28:24
I contacted katie through her mom wanted
28:26
them to know that in of a entities friendship
28:28
would come up in the story she. told
28:30
me they were not interested in talking and we're
28:32
moving past the sense of them They
28:35
have started to withdraw from Katie. katie
28:38
confronted her about why she was ignoring
28:40
her, the conversation have been
28:42
avoiding happens. This
28:44
is okay, like.
28:46
And you just straight up, be honest with me right now, did you
28:48
say something about me have you participate
28:50
in this group chat or? Then
28:53
we got into bed and of and are human arm
28:55
she called. me rude
28:57
and low forever suggesting a thing ah
29:01
That I was just like. And bad
29:03
friend for even like. Thinking
29:06
that and dumb, and
29:08
then was just like, okay, if you, she
29:10
told me that she wasn't involved in it. don't,
29:15
know what to think about it and so just was like hey
29:17
okay only get a distance myself from you.
29:19
and that was it "They are hasn't
29:22
talked to her", said.
29:29
The snapshot slave trade was almost nine months
29:31
ago.
29:32
The government school investigation in a police
29:34
investigation and title nine investigation
29:38
massive adults school administrators
29:40
police know exactly what was said
29:42
in those messages burnaby. dozen
29:44
the really bugs her
29:46
How I'd have an otherwise ordinary
29:49
rite of passage for any high schooler, what
29:51
did my friend saying do behind my back actually
29:53
have a documented answer? They
29:56
have, as she asked for the phone conversation
29:58
from the school. They never gave it to
30:00
her and told her katie shouldn't have shared
30:03
it. They told her if she wanted
30:05
to see more, she could file freedom of information,
30:07
act requests or flare bust.
30:10
Then she did. I did to you. The
30:13
man never waited. After
30:16
you know, could say some really hurtful staff, right? The
30:19
may really hurt me. Hi.
30:22
think that is A.
30:24
See it I can handle it
30:26
and will handle it and just it.
30:29
just be give me closure not only like for me
30:31
but like closure like
30:33
is katie participated or not because I'm
30:35
still questioning that. The
30:38
the right decision to just cut katie offer
30:41
was, just. Paranoid.
30:44
You know? When
30:46
Elsa South, mean, I've, you
30:48
know, and though just seeing is
30:50
katie participate or deny, and then seen what
30:53
else was said about me, those two things
30:55
was as gave me like the most closer
30:57
ever.
30:59
My boy request came in first a few
31:01
weeks ago of. close to five hundred
31:03
pages printed out emails after
31:05
emails police reports disciplinary
31:07
hearing forums That it's heavily redacted,
31:10
which is honestly pretty normal for if I am.
31:13
brought it to have a as house and see her mom
31:15
and I sat at the kitchen table trying to sort
31:17
through it all this, always
31:20
information within his black squares. as
31:25
Really I. just say
31:28
Crawford, the names, the so yeah, they said.
31:32
The screenshot of A was hoping to see what
31:34
they fully blacked out there. were little
31:36
bits of information here information there and there reports
31:38
that was hard to decipher of be like reaching there
31:41
was some new information in there
31:43
for one thing this sapped that wasn't
31:45
the first time that group of kids sold their
31:47
black peers and a slave auction In
31:50
boy at the kiddies started the slave trade
31:52
and traverse city, so they saw on tick
31:54
tock there was another one in Texas.
31:57
The second, the foyer made it clear that there.
32:00
More screenshots than the ones in of I
32:02
had seen. Them are blacked
32:04
out. could see the frustration
32:07
and disappointment on of a his face as
32:09
she fucked your page after page.
32:11
It's really frustrating to look
32:13
at these dislike tons of black
32:15
pages and just boxes that are completely
32:18
and the, and I just want to know what they said. don't realize
32:21
don't understand how why that's so difficult
32:23
to do so.
32:25
Handed over to me, I was in those groups, had was
32:27
a target and so.
32:29
I feel like as someone who is in the group
32:31
chat and talked about in the group to should. The
32:34
given the right to see what else
32:36
was said about me cause. You
32:39
know? They are all something
32:41
in the foyer that gave her paws.
32:43
The names are blacked out that she could see in the
32:46
report that someone in the chat didn't participate.
32:49
You get thing that over again blacked out
32:51
name did not participate fifty
32:53
pages later blacked out name did
32:55
not participate. Well, that
32:57
katie.
32:58
It just makes me question like maybe katie was
33:00
telling me the truth and here I was just brushing
33:02
and off because how strongly
33:05
was focused on finding out
33:08
if, she was it and are not. so
33:10
i guess if anything it just makes me question myself
33:12
for in myself judgment more
33:20
The next day, never, yeah.
33:22
That me impact she. made the choice
33:24
to believe that the blackout name the
33:26
person who did not participate as katie
33:29
Reading the boy I made of a I think about their relationship
33:32
about the she could trust something she'd been
33:34
sitting there. Before this
33:36
incident she had no reason to think that katie
33:38
wasn't an honest person she.
33:41
said she reached out to kitty to apologize and
33:43
katie had responded They
33:46
did not just want to know what was said about her in
33:48
the chat. The want everyone to now.
33:51
He wanted to talk about it. The
33:53
message she felt. She kept getting from our school,
33:56
the police, her friends, for the school
33:58
board meeting in her town. Five hundred
34:00
page blacked out for am was we don't
34:02
wanna talk about this. We don't wanna
34:05
talk about racism. It
34:07
was a message or has been on repeat everywhere,
34:09
and this moment backlash. And
34:11
as kid, if that's the message. Getting
34:14
bury. the racism What
34:16
do you do with that?
34:20
About an hour after I left there. How the
34:22
they his mom sent me a picture Nevada
34:25
and her him sitting on her bed surrounded
34:27
by the flam which either rains and
34:29
many little stacks of pay for like?
34:31
detective sorting and sifting through the clues
34:34
stood Doing still trying to
34:36
find something?
34:46
Coming up a person who does not want
34:48
to know anything about what's being said behind
34:50
their back.
34:51
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I'm Wesley Morris I'm a culture writer
36:11
at the New York Times and I co-host a
36:13
podcast called still processing this
36:16
season This, invited some of my favorite
36:19
writers and critics to come talk
36:21
to come about the culture that shape
36:23
does the changing ways we
36:25
consume it and why keanu
36:27
reeves is basically culture unto
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This American life I'm a manual berry
36:40
in for Ira glass. The show
36:43
talking while black stories of people
36:45
caught up in this moment of backlash. We've
36:48
gone from twenty companies tweeting
36:50
out black lives matter, there's all these
36:52
diversity initiatives to now. Where
36:55
it feels like even just saying something as black
36:57
as controversial. The they're passing
36:59
laws limit conversations about racism,
37:02
black people are losing their jobs for talking
37:04
about race too much. I
37:07
keep returning to the. In over the last
37:09
few months. This backlash,
37:11
what are you allowed to say, lakes as
37:13
a black person like what about
37:15
black lives or the black experiences
37:17
actually okay to talk about?" The
37:20
next story gets up this question. We've
37:23
arrived at act two of our program act
37:25
to the. force awakens One
37:28
place where you can see this dizzying at whiplash
37:31
as bucks by black people and
37:33
about black people. After the
37:35
murder of George floyd sales, black box
37:38
skyrocketed even Max Candy
37:40
stamps and the beginning the new Jim Crow,
37:42
so you wanna talk about race? We're
37:44
all of sudden bestsellers. The
37:46
window of time people really wanted to hear
37:48
what black authors had to say.
37:50
And then they dramatically did not want
37:52
to hear anymore.
37:54
The only did sale flow, but they're now
37:56
efforts to ban many of these books
37:59
that were so sell it. In a little over year
38:01
ago. Producer hundred off
38:03
the wall spoke with one author who
38:05
found his book band and his professional
38:07
arc is sort of mere for this backlash.
38:11
Your ha.
38:12
I learned about this particular banned book
38:14
from Deborah caldwell Stone. The
38:17
Director of the American Library Association
38:19
Office for Intellectual Freedom. Her
38:21
job is to track efforts to censor and
38:23
banned books and, she was telling
38:25
me she's never seen anything like this
38:27
fall before and her decades on
38:29
the job just the number of books being
38:32
challenged removed from school library
38:34
south
38:35
Many books about lgbtq people
38:38
she's as those have been contested for years.
38:41
More recently. Toni Morrison,
38:43
Doctor, a remix candy.
38:45
The hate you give a novel about the
38:47
aftermath of police brutality.
38:49
The And and there
38:51
was a mother whom halted
38:54
of author presentation by Jerry
38:56
Tracks by claiming falsely
38:58
that new kid represent
39:00
it's critical race. Very many
39:03
cars. Yeah, my clinic's
39:05
book, the graphic novel. The new
39:07
kid. The new kid is book
39:09
my children read. That twelve
39:12
year old black boy who goes to new school.
39:14
There he was scheduled to
39:17
give up of author presentation
39:20
to the kids in Katie,
39:22
Texas, and they lined
39:24
up the sake of and all the kids for it to
39:26
supporting meeting Jerry resume
39:28
and one mother stops the whole
39:30
thing by claiming that it was. Critical
39:33
race theory.
39:35
Very craft has been invited to speak to
39:37
thousands of schools over the years to
39:39
do other presentation like the one and katie
39:41
Texas because new kid was
39:43
widely acclaimed. When a
39:45
kind of word's it was number one York
39:48
Times bestseller translated into dozen
39:50
languages new. kid is semi
39:53
autobiographical graphic novel about
39:55
boy jordan
39:57
Wanted to be an artist, go to art of
39:59
the. That kind of in a fancy, private school.
40:02
Jordan. Is one of only few blackheads
40:05
lot of the kids are wealthy the campus is vast
40:08
and, you watch Jordan this funny
40:10
earnest kid navigate new
40:12
environment? There's culture shock
40:15
there's new, friendships it's part
40:17
fish out of water story and purchase
40:20
kid in middle school figuring out crashes
40:22
figuring the cafeteria and things Should
40:25
he do sports where the me the golf? The
40:28
aircraft told me when he played "New
40:30
Get Out There", the response was amazing,
40:33
everything it was all like great thing.
40:35
Hug from the world. People
40:37
wrote him to say my kid once.
40:39
Then. Be an artist now, my kid loved
40:41
your book, or hey, you are
40:43
my kid, has never been a read it before and he read
40:45
your book three times like that, some. Use to
40:47
season when it's last surprised
40:49
because I love and admiration right after now
40:51
say hey can you comment here,
40:54
in the B C I'm like know.
40:57
what is this This
40:59
is not his thing controversy.
41:02
There he was, a kid who have to draw who became
41:04
an adult who kept drawing.
41:06
spent most of his time and or him by himself
41:09
making pictures. When
41:11
he published new head and twenty nineteen Syria,
41:13
been reading comics for decades. This
41:16
was the bucket always wanted to write. That
41:19
he wished he'd had as a kid. The
41:21
black characters who seems as. Regular.
41:25
There it, as you remember going to library as a kid,
41:27
and I was always the General Bucks. The
41:29
black box.
41:31
The general bugs are once the live
41:33
better and are both just wants
41:35
to live know your books
41:37
his father's king or books his father's
41:39
gone in, our lives
41:41
the magical kingdom lives in the heard.
41:44
all the books with black protagonists were
41:46
history or misery you know
41:48
no kid like me ever made it to the end
41:50
of a book The there was no dad,
41:53
there was nothing in other kids always lived on
41:55
the. South side of somewhere
41:57
that was just really horrible. You
42:00
know, and it was gangs
42:02
of slavery, civil rights or. Police
42:05
brutality and I'm like, can I just
42:07
see a kid who the biggest?
42:10
Problem of the day is what he wants to play experts,
42:12
the playstation. And that's
42:14
why I do what do,
42:17
make those books that wish had. That's
42:19
the thing about new kid being banned.
42:22
So many of the other black?
42:24
After that band bugs or rating explicitly
42:26
about racism or history books
42:29
about how slavery has saved America,
42:31
police brutality, how to be an anti
42:33
racist?
42:35
Then. New kid this is not
42:37
a history book it's not about police
42:39
violence or slavery or civil rights
42:42
it's, story about finding your place in middle
42:44
school, there are. Racial flights
42:47
and sort of daily, way classmates
42:49
and teachers make assumptions about where joins
42:51
from that he's great athlete, they
42:54
say ignorant things try to touch A. Black.
42:56
friends hair administrators
42:58
continue to call hair longstanding black teacher
43:01
coach even though he's never coached
43:03
anything Jordan
43:05
often fantasy funny he laughs about
43:07
it with another black classmate sometimes,
43:09
you find that confusing are annoying, but
43:12
it's not. tragic these
43:14
are just things that happen on the way
43:16
alongside lots of
43:17
Experiences with his way, classmates
43:19
and teachers, including good
43:22
experiences. Honestly,
43:24
the most dramatic thing that happens in this.
43:26
Story is it during loses his gets
43:29
but. Due to
43:31
do.
43:36
When
43:39
I.
43:39
Jerry, I didn't know the specifics of
43:41
the objections and Texas and I'd have
43:43
expected Jared it's on the and. You
43:45
know, even math and me. The read
43:47
enough of one article to understand
43:50
that away. And had complained about his book
43:52
was calling critical race theory a
43:54
term Jerry have to than Google. And
43:57
he calls the article without finishing it. Then.
44:00
Today. That friends
44:02
and strangers kept method. In him.
44:04
How crazy your book? The
44:07
man.
44:08
So one person sent me the
44:10
axis school board. Link
44:12
the, I guess they filmed school board. And
44:15
just refuse to watch that because
44:17
you. know like when i'm sitting for
44:20
sixteen hours a day drawing like
44:22
humorous stuff for kids I
44:24
have to protect my own brain, the my own
44:26
psyche, because don't want you know my next
44:28
book. The to be like, oh, how Mr.
44:30
Crabb used to be funny now he's so depressing,
44:33
you know, so have to be in a really
44:35
good mental space for that.
44:38
So I did, you knew, mean, it sounds like
44:40
you knew that was something that you weren't gonna want
44:42
to watch, yeah, did not want to go down that
44:44
rabbit hole.
44:45
How to, when did you imagine
44:47
was down that rabbit hole that was scary
44:49
to you?
44:53
That complaint.
44:54
That I saw was that I'm
44:57
teaching kids critical race theory so
45:00
the college course. That
45:03
mentions things such as institutional
45:05
racism and all these really heavy, deep
45:07
things that they are studying and picking
45:09
apart in college.
45:11
I was now are break that down
45:13
for fourth and fifth graders apparently
45:16
so is,
45:20
there for me, is that is came
45:22
to, Texas like
45:25
we want any well I'm not really being an. event that we
45:28
have the given opposing viewpoints as i
45:30
do my interviews didn't have been interviews the middle got
45:32
a call from the opposing side and then the tv
45:34
duke it out right busy dog I
45:38
did not stage of.
45:39
With. A man who complains about Jerry Crafts
45:41
bucks but I did talk to her and,
45:44
watched her testimony at the Kitty School Board
45:46
meetings the one's aircraft would not
45:48
was. , name is Bonnie
45:50
Anderson she has three kids in the schools
45:53
she's very involved in local school. politics
45:56
should A lawsuit against the school district.
45:58
Mac and eight. Then and she ran
46:00
for school board last spring that lasts.
46:03
They told me she first encountered during
46:05
suck when she got a flyer in our kid's backpacks,
46:08
announcing the out there is it, so she
46:10
got the book's new kid and
46:12
the file bug class act. And
46:14
read them both herself.
46:16
I don't have you ever have you read this sucks yeah my
46:18
kids read them okay I,
46:21
heard of a know where to start ah. so
46:24
that's the first thing that first noticed is all of the
46:26
my progression Ah, no. That
46:29
the author is the ticking.
46:31
Micro aggressions the my meaning of the
46:33
every day thoughtless staff way people
46:35
and the buck say around black and white.
46:38
bonnie worried how really knows the texans make
46:40
way kids feel The
46:43
district tell me there was another path to
46:45
who apparently filed a complaint that new kit
46:47
includes vulgarity, they would not
46:49
provide that. The name. Funny
46:52
though was very public, she
46:54
cared enough about this to create petition
46:56
demanding the district cancel Jerry Craft's
46:58
event. The got four hundred signatures.
47:02
The bonnie. The book has clear
47:04
agenda jerry. set out
47:06
to convince people systemic racism
47:08
is real and so how privileged
47:11
The awful white people are.
47:13
Wrapping it up with money or dramatic moments
47:16
that the hurt seem totally over the top. Like
47:19
the scene where the dad gets pulled over. The cop
47:21
and a super now. She says
47:23
you really think that happens, I. The
47:26
white man who were it's her kid's black friend
47:28
may take offense if she serves watermelon
47:30
for snack come, on she
47:32
says Lot of
47:34
our conversation with Bonnie questioning
47:36
parts of the book and me saying
47:38
I think that's peace and Jerry's, oh, nice.
47:41
You really think the Jerry craft
47:44
went through an arduous school? She
47:46
did, and you really think he was given
47:49
to see just sort of it? Then. The
47:52
visiting the winter at we it's not. The US
47:54
for.
47:56
"The that he went to I'm a mostly just school
47:58
he went to", sealed said. Not at your
48:00
school you faint I,
48:03
mean i don't you're saying he The believe that
48:05
actually happened to him.
48:08
Regardless, let's just pretend that all the things
48:10
he wrote of out. Been called an oreo
48:13
all those things actually happened. I'm
48:15
regardless. Let's return for like, and that
48:17
all those things happened or let's take his word. The
48:20
thing happened. It doesn't matter
48:22
what Fleetwide isn't that matter because you don't
48:24
harm future generations of children because
48:27
you went through about Express, you don't poison
48:29
the minds of my children. Then,
48:31
even if it happened, you do not.
48:35
Within the mind of other kids and
48:37
make them seal. Like
48:39
they have to make concessions
48:41
for being white.
48:43
This is an idea that is repeated and a lot
48:45
of the efforts to ban books, the
48:47
idea that these bus was psychologically
48:50
harmed soldier and. Usually you
48:52
wait children. When you say it
48:54
poisons the minds of your kids, what's the same that you're
48:56
worried as gonna happen to your kids reading these
48:58
bugs?
48:59
That is this, but teach
49:01
children the preordained conclusion
49:04
that white children have well
49:06
status and race privilege. Small
49:08
children of cover color must suffer the race's
49:10
ignorance of these privileged families you remember
49:13
from the books that those the white mom.
49:15
There's nothing but for yoga all day and
49:18
on the white boy cells neglected
49:21
and they live in a mansion and
49:24
they drive in the range rover. It's
49:26
Mercedes and sir.
49:28
Her bonnie, these characterizations
49:30
would be damaging to her kids if they read the books.
49:33
Which they haven't. The
49:36
new head is a book that is entirely
49:38
focused on the perspective of black boy,
49:40
the think he sees. And experience is.
49:43
There are only characters, some
49:45
of them are mean, some of the murder incest
49:47
friends.
49:48
When an impact everyone through sock puppets
49:50
but, they're peripheral The
49:53
story about Jordan So.
49:55
i would assume Make with any
49:57
well told story kids reading this
49:59
book what I did. The by with the main character.
50:02
And he's the protagonist of the story.
50:11
I want to say something here, feel obliged
50:13
to say, but also feels a little embarrassing
50:16
for all of us that I have to say at all.
50:19
But theory class that new kid
50:21
is not critical race theory theory,
50:24
crafted
50:25
Create a fictional twelve year old
50:27
black boy Jordan thanks to promote complex.
50:29
A legal theory about systemic racism.
50:32
And although it is a work of fiction, most
50:35
of what Bonnie objects to in these books did
50:38
actually happened. The how
50:40
much?
50:40
In just your in direct life
50:43
experience, this a lot of it.
50:45
I. Was the light skinned African American
50:47
kid by the harlem grew up in Washington Heights,
50:50
the house with Jordan Bank's lives as a brownstone
50:52
that is literally the house while I was. Born
50:54
and spent the first twenty five years my life,
50:57
my mom and dad did not want me to
50:59
go the art school that you later and
51:01
banks wanted to get tired. When look at our school so
51:03
they send me to school in Riverdale in
51:06
here, they send Jordan banks to school
51:08
called Riverdale Qaddoumi Day School or read
51:10
for short.
51:11
Gordon Banks felt that a place during
51:13
craft felt that place.
51:15
The wouldn't banks his classmates all inexplicably
51:18
wear pink but called that salmon. The
51:20
Metairie craft. That are
51:22
the whole arm.
51:25
Vineyard vines thing ah that was
51:27
like the unofficial uniform, so I'd seen sit
51:29
in new kids at grapevine groves like
51:31
while you kids show will other pink years, I know
51:34
it's not pink salmon.
51:36
All the things Jordan base observed
51:38
or experiences a white man
51:40
who worries about serving watermelon and
51:42
nerve wracking interaction with cop, wait
51:44
classmates touching your hair, assuming
51:46
you like basketball. They happened
51:48
to Jerry or Dairies kids.
51:51
The'and and called the wrong name, you
51:53
know, hey, the andre I'm not the entree,
51:55
Andrew, like that the other one or
51:57
have like that the other one.
52:00
So interesting to me about this book,
52:02
in particular, being kind of drawn
52:04
into this. He er't. t
52:06
The battle that supposedly
52:08
about history but. your
52:10
book is not a history with this is like literally
52:13
just you writing down the story of your life
52:15
Yeah, it literally is like, based
52:18
on what I actually see, there's
52:20
nothing that haven't lived myself.
52:23
With one exception, those can see gift
52:25
certificates. There he has, he made that
52:28
up.
52:29
One other thing, Jerry pointed out, that really
52:31
happened to him. The last
52:33
chapter of New Kid It's called the first
52:35
the weekends it's when Jordan loses
52:38
his gets fuck the when he carries everywhere
52:40
he super stressed because it has all his thoughts
52:42
and drawings from that year sort of like. The
52:44
visual diary. It turned
52:46
out his teacher, Miss Rob, is holding
52:49
his gets back when he comes into the classroom, she's
52:51
read it.
52:52
And she regents if I join
52:54
you know why you so angry
52:57
suck I'm not angry you know
52:59
and like and the teachers upset about
53:01
with in the driver because he will
53:03
complain about being called the wrong
53:05
name or. you know
53:07
this different things different tell people touching his friends
53:10
here it's so she's like jordan your special
53:13
your know like you're here and
53:15
he's like year but miss role like would
53:17
you take a job at his school in my
53:20
neighborhood so you can be special
53:23
If you like can it gets on mistake, so.
53:26
Let me get this right it's okay for the stuff to happen
53:28
to me it's just not okay for me to talk about
53:30
it and. that sums
53:32
up this whole thing that's going on now
53:36
Right? The things based on my life
53:38
and based on my kid's lives. The
53:40
feel a good grown up version of of.
53:43
What happens to carry bags and your novel,
53:45
"I Love You", said Jerry Banks, because bet that
53:47
despite the rings or not you're right, it is
53:49
blurry banks we are, one of the saints know it's
53:52
exactly the same.
53:54
It is enormous,raul raul found
53:56
Jordan Sketchbook and said that it's a polemic
53:58
and that it's angry. And this
54:00
woman found my book and says it's polemic
54:03
and it's angry. And
54:05
damn. Yeah.
54:08
I went back to that last after recently and
54:11
what stood out reading at this time knowing
54:13
it had been banned.
54:15
That even twelve year old Jordan Banks
54:17
knows that his account of his own life
54:19
will not be acceptable to my teacher
54:21
and is better captain the safety of his journal.
54:25
He knows the teacher won't be able to read it
54:27
without feeling personally attacked.
54:29
He knows that what has happened to him or not
54:31
matter as much as how it makes her. The
54:34
all to read about it. He
54:36
already knew that, even if it's all real.
54:39
You'd rather he did the two and half.
54:47
Eight, the have recently passed legislation
54:49
restricting the teaching of.
54:50
Read to them and bias in public school
54:53
Texas, is one of them Nearly
54:55
twenty more states have introduce or
54:57
planned to introduce similar legislation.
55:01
Live almost never list specific
55:03
books if you teach they talk
55:05
about safe sex they, prohibit
55:07
teaching any lessons that might make students
55:09
feel quote the discomfort
55:12
Guilt or anguish because of
55:14
their race.
55:15
After been a citizen and the complain about
55:18
new kid including vulgarity, the
55:20
district responded Monson Investigation
55:23
and, said it was using the new
55:24
reply to evaluate the book it,
55:27
as a poll jerry buss in the library and
55:29
pulled off his author visit
55:33
In Pennsylvania, a group of parents
55:35
got the school board to ban list of diverse
55:37
bucks, including children's book about Rosa
55:39
Parks. The worried the bucks can
55:41
be used to make weight soldier and feel guilty.
55:45
A group. Of White Man's in Tennessee
55:47
have demanded a book about Martin Luther King
55:49
Jr. and the March on Washing. Then be
55:51
removed from their curriculum that.
55:54
Though objected to a chapter book called
55:56
"The Story of Ruby Bridges" because
55:58
it makes it seem like way. People are bad
56:01
or.
56:02
Their parents, who claim reading books
56:04
about black experiences, are black history
56:06
or just a black kid going to middle school,
56:09
will harm their children. Their
56:11
desire to protect their kids from discomfort
56:14
is now enshrined in the law. The
56:18
investigation into New Can't Last Attendees
56:20
at which point the district announced their findings.
56:24
No inappropriate material.
56:26
The region would be allowed to read this book and
56:28
katie Texas. During the event
56:30
with the kids was real. And job. The
56:33
my find.
56:34
That the same questions they always do, what
56:37
inspired you, is it going to be a movie?
56:40
That same day the Kitty School Board
56:42
had meeting parents, showed up to
56:44
complain said the of that was allowed to go
56:46
forward with that critical race theory
56:48
was infiltrating schools. and
56:50
they demanded and full audit of the whole
56:53
life Gray races, which will just recently
56:55
raise one mining. There
56:57
is one man who. To defend new
56:59
kid on to say what the but means to her
57:01
family.
57:04
Have never spoken before, so this is about
57:07
that Jerry fact that.
57:10
Your yourself out that her,
57:12
name is currently she's black woman
57:14
standing before standing line of board members
57:16
well appeared to be wait There's
57:18
that he had to say. Even though the books
57:21
will be placed on shelves again. I
57:23
am concerned to what led to them being
57:25
removed.
57:26
Can you caught on your hand and telling me how many people
57:28
of color you've ever had at your home
57:31
if you are? The trouble or just can't remember a
57:33
day or time, please tell me what
57:35
do you possibly know about what? Wow, what book
57:37
you've never left?
57:38
Have you ever went to work for two years and
57:40
have someone call you Brittany every morning
57:43
I have because my name is Courtney? You
57:45
not a correlation if you've read the book
57:48
New Kid Patio class is you read
57:50
it have. you ever served as great
57:52
century The Washington D. C.
57:54
inauguration of two thousand and Korea, two thousand
57:56
and one Iraq, two thousand and three Afghanistan,
57:59
two thousand and fifteen. forty Two thousand
58:01
and sixteen only to have your fifteen year old
58:03
twins and call you in the middle of workday,
58:05
saying he doesn't like is Paco high school
58:08
and learned that. The doctor visits of anxiety and
58:10
stomach pains for the last twelve months for
58:12
only due to white seen calling your son the
58:14
N word for the last year of two. Thousand and eighteen,
58:17
well, I have if you read the book you'd understand
58:19
the correlation once again of the oreo joke.
58:22
"How dare you four hundred and forty four signatures
58:24
remove what little representation my closer
58:27
has the shelves, it's reality and
58:29
litres your form or the modern day said?"
58:31
I. Don't applaud you for place in the book back on the
58:33
shelf, my only hope is set to not allow
58:36
the unknown and false narratives to sway
58:38
your judgment on needed representation. Of us
58:40
all representations of matter,
58:42
please and thank me for my service, do it because
58:44
love it, many friends and bowels have that
58:47
and bled for it as for. katie as the
58:49
do with you suits and need to do to
58:51
uphold the standards of fairness, justice
58:54
and representation for this school districts
58:56
so can thank you for your.
59:00
The speakers and we lose.
59:04
The president
59:07
ever.
59:10
In so many corners of the country right
59:12
now, parents usually
59:14
wait parents are showing up to meetings
59:17
just like this to express their
59:19
fear to say they don't want their children
59:21
farmed. The feeling uncomfortable.
59:25
Courtney is talking about from that
59:27
has already happening and,
59:29
jury craft is already uncomfortable",
59:32
he wrote a whole book about feeling uncomfortable.
59:34
he told me You just learn to deal with that.
59:38
The never had any laws protecting him
59:40
from discomfort. Or scoreboards
59:42
worried about his discomfort? When
59:45
he had with the. The ready to write
59:47
it down.
59:54
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59:56
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