In this Different Perspectives episode, I get to speak with Noah Smith and Mark Krikorian about immigration. 

Noah is an American blogger, journalist, and commentator on economics and current events. He obtained his doctorate in Economics from the University of Michigan and currently writes for his own Substack called Noahpinion.

Mark has been the executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, an anti-immigration think-tank in Washington, D. C., since 1995. Mark is also a regular contributor to the conservative publication National Review, and is a regular participant at National Review: The Corner.

Links:

Noahpinion Substack: https://noahpinion.substack.com

Noahpinion Twitter: https://twitter.com/Noahpinion

Center for Immigration Studies: https://cis.org/Krikorian

Mark's Twitter: https://twitter.com/MarkSKrikorian

Chapters:

0:00 Intro

01:51 Historical perspective on immigration

06:15 Too much of a good thing is too much

08:27 Work automation 

09:10 ‘Who’s going to support grandma’ + population collapse argument

14:02 Mark defends himself against gish gallop

16:29 Does large scale immigration suppress native born fertility rate?

21:36 Immigration waves

26:11 Comparing immigration to sex

28:15 Noah singing HAIR

29:04 Mark reconnects and suggests 60% immigration drop

30:44 What matters? Immigration stock or flow?

38:30 Immigration from China-good or bad?

51:30 High skilled immigration and tech talent

58:32 Why immigration doesn’t reduce wages

1:05:40 Labor force participation rate and population collapse

1:14:51 Are immigrants sending too much money abroad?

1:17:44 Noah’s anti-immigration argument-housing 

1:21:10 Illegal immigration + southern border + Bush policies

1:32:48 Asylum seekers

1:36:02 Final message to Americans