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Hi. And welcome to the Therapy in
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the. Advice: Or direction you may
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be receiving from a therapist or
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other health professional. All, let's jump
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in. Imagine this: You
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are wired to an electric shock
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device and which one would make
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you more anxious? You get told
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that there is a fifty percent
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chance. Of getting shocked. Or.
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You get told that you're gonna get shocked no matter
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what. Researchers. Found
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that participants felt. Far more anxious
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if they were told that there was a fifty percent
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chance of getting shocked. Then the participants who were
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told that that there was a one hundred. Percent chance
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of getting shot. Our. Brains
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hate uncertainty more than physical
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pain. so what's up with
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that when we aren't certain
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what will happen or nervous
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system perceives that uncertainty as
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a potential threat. That. We
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could maybe do something about. So
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it's like oh, something bad might
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happen. So he kicks on this
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activated state, trying to spur us
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into some action to prevent bad
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things from her, and this feels
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like uncomfortable anxiety. Sensations.
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Now. Most of us feel really uncomfortable
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with uncertainty so for example, how a
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you feel in these situations. Will.
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This relationship work out. Or.
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Should I leave before I get hurt? This.
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World filled out of control Should I
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bother with a college. Degree Should
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I invest money in the stock
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market? Should. I buy a house.
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Or. How bout this? Should I apply for that job?
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If I might not, be qualified and i get
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rejected. Now just
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like those real people in the
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research study, because uncertainty is
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so anxiety provoking, a lot of
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people would rather have pain than
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uncertainty. So they
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break up with their girlfriend or
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they quit college or they don't
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apply for the job because
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that feels safer than
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the uncertainty does. Now most people
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don't like uncertainty but the people who can't
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tolerate uncertainty the most are
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more likely to experience anxiety or
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depressive disorders. They're more likely to
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struggle in relationships and not
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reach their potential in work or school.
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But here's the thing, it's not actually
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uncertainty that's the problem, it's our attempts
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to avoid uncertainty that usually interfere with
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our lives. We love certainty
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to such an extreme degree
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that we often self-sabotage instead
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of tolerating the uncertainty. We
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would rather fail than risk
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success because risking success comes
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with uncomfortable feelings of
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anxiety. So we quit a
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sport if we're not sure if we'll be good at it or
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you never ask her out because you're uncertain if she'll
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say yes or you break up with him
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before he breaks up with you. If
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we're afraid of being fired we quit
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or we don't give our best efforts so we
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don't feel invested and then
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we can just tell ourselves oh well you know I
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never really liked that job anyway. We
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never really commit in an attempt to
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protect ourselves from feeling hurt later. But
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by never committing we remove
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the uncertainty of success and
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we guarantee the certainty of failure.
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Our nervous system prefers a
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familiar hell over an unfamiliar
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heaven and we are all
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experts at doing mental gymnastics
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to try and prevent
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disappointment and uncertainty. So have
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you ever said anything like this? You
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know I'd rather expect the worst and
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have something good happen than expect
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the best or hope for the best.
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and be disappointed. This
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is an attempt to control
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uncertainty. But it also
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shuts down our options. If we expect the
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worst, we will miss out on a lot
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of opportunities, like asking that girl
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out, or putting our whole heart into a
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tryout, or giving our all
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in a relationship or in our job. And
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there's like a bunch of other mental
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backbends we do. If
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the future is uncertain, we might
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worry and overthink in an attempt
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to control the outcome. We
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ruminate and run through all the
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possible scenarios trying to force certainty
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onto an uncertain world. We're
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trying to control and suppress
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our emotions of sadness or
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regret by endlessly thinking
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through scenarios. And
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we worry and worry and procrastinate
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so much that we fill
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our present with anxiety. And if
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we never commit to an uncertain
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course, we eventually sabotage
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our future too. So let's talk about
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other forms of self-sabotaging, uncertainty avoiding things
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that we do. So the
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first one, reassurance seeking, micromanaging,
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over-checking, procrastinating.
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Procrastinating is an attempt to wait to make a decision until
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you have all the facts or you have all the control
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that you need. It's
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like saying, oh, I'm not going to try until I
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know for sure that
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there's going to be a payout. So these
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are all like a bunch of weird mental strategies
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we use to avoid uncertainty. But
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the thing is, uncertainty was never the
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problem. It's all the stuff that we do to
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try to make uncertainty go away. That's
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what makes us sick. So just
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go ahead and comment below, what are some of
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the things that you do to avoid
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uncertainty? And what have you missed out
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on in an attempt to kind of
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protect yourself from being hurt? Now, the
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cool thing is, you can develop the
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skill of accepting uncertainty, of
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creating space for it in your life so that you can be hurt. you
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stop self-sabotaging. And this,
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like when we stop doing all
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these mental backbends to avoid uncertainty,
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it actually can decrease your depression
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and anxiety and lead to
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you taking risks that actually lead to
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more success. So how do we
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do it? On a practical level, how do
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we get better at handling uncertainty? You
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can create internal
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certainty around uncertainty
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by number one, like just
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being honest. Life is
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uncertain and you are certain
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there's nothing you can do about that. Uncertainty
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is part of living a quality life.
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Uncertainty is part of loving, caring,
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striving, competing, trying,
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it's an essential part of the best
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sports or the most exciting games. Uncertainty
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is essential to creativity,
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to relationships, to productivity. Not
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to mention the best hobbies like
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rock climbing and gardening and
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I say that because I'm never certain if what I
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plant is gonna grow. So
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stop resisting reality and stop trying
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to force your feelings to go
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away and instead let's create room
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to hold those feelings while we strive
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for the life that we dream
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of. I recently read an example
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of this in the New York Times. So this woman
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said, a close friend's daughter
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was getting married during the pandemic. We
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can't invite our friends to the wedding in
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order to keep it small and safe, my pal
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told me. But she did
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invite friends I learned from a Facebook
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post, just not me. Feeling
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humiliated, I initially kept quiet
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but being together grew awkward and I sensed
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a growing distance. And when
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I tried to discuss the widening rift,
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she called a pause in our relations by
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text and stopped reaching out for a year. My
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first thought was to consider the friendship
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ended. Something in her
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tone felt so final, like a
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breakup, case closed. But after
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a time, I asked myself if I really knew
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what had happened and what she'd
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meant by excluding me. Perhaps
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there was more to the story. Despite
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my hurt, I tried to keep the problem
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and my own mind open. I
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discovered what Rebecca Solnit calls the
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spaciousness of uncertainty, a
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realm of possibility. When
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at last my friend broke her silence
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by text, I was ready to
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reconnect and move forward, even if I couldn't get
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an answer to all of my questions. Seeing
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her rejection with unsureness gave
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me perspective and courage not
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to shun her in turn.
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In our craving for certainty, we
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often cut off the things we actually care
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about. It would have been easier for this woman
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mentally to just break up with her
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friend than to hold that space for
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uncertainty. But she would have
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lost that friendship forever. In order
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to live a happy life, we have to
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stop trying to create a sense of
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safety that demands on controlling
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outside circumstances or controlling them
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mentally, cutting ourselves off from
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them. And instead, we need
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to do step two, which is strengthen
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our internal sense of safety. So
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if uncertainty is perceived
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danger, the antidote
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is internal safety. Remind
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yourself that you can handle having feelings. You
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get really good at having feelings. So
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instead of putting all your energy into
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resisting uncertainty, put your energy into building
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internal resilience. So let's say,
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for example, if you're uncertain about an upcoming trip, if
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you're anxious about it, if you're worried that it's
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going to be a stressful disaster, after
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a reasonable amount of planning, stop
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trying to predict everything, stop trying to
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control everything to make sure that it goes
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perfectly. Instead you could
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foster internal beliefs like, oh, even if things
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don't go perfectly, I can get through it.
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It's only a couple of days. It might be
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uncomfortable, but it won't be the end of the world. And
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these internal beliefs build up your sense of safety,
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and that's going to keep you from just... endlessly
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trying to control and predict everything,
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to build up your sense of
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safety. Adopt a mindset that like,
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oh trying new things and doing stuff that's
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hard and taking risks is good for you. So
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what you're doing is you're creating emotional
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space to feel uncertain.
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And another word for this is
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willingness. Like I'm willing to feel
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uncertain about this relationship in
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order to see where it will go. I'm
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willing to feel unsure about whether YouTube
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will like my video. But
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I'll make it anyway. This is a
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skill you can develop with practice.
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Your ability to tolerate uncertainty without
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self-sabotaging is a muscle that
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you can develop. You strengthen it
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through practice. So do things
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that make you feel uncertain. Order something
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new at a restaurant or go to a
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completely unknown restaurant. You can
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practice tolerating uncertainty by trying a
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new class, or traveling somewhere you've
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never been before, or delegating a
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task to others without micromanaging them.
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You could try an activity that you've been avoiding like
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karaoke or dancing or improv.
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You could talk to someone you don't know or go hang out with
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a group of people you don't know. Wear
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a type of clothing that you don't normally wear. And
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as you do these things, don't
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focus on the emotion because you're probably
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gonna feel some discomfort. Focus
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instead on the experience. Did you
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learn something new? What did
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this experiment do for your confidence? Right?
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Like what did you learn from this? Did
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you strengthen your sense of self?
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With all forms of exposure therapy, gradual
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repetition is the key to real success.
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So just keep putting yourself in uncertain
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situations over and over
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and practice, like
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creating more emotional space to
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handle that anxiety instead of trying
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to control and manage and predict
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and cut yourself off from failure.
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And the more you do this, the Better
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you'll get at it. Like That emotional
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muscle will get stronger. You are worth
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investing time and energy. in building up
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your capacity to handle tough stuff. And
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if you'd like to work with a therapist, The build up.
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defense mechanism but they do in
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the way when we constantly analyze.
12:43
And over things and ruminate
12:45
over every problem or every
12:48
possible situation. So. If
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you're not sure. About your future in job
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market. Handle That inches
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energy into taking some classes
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or getting certified in something
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new. channel the emotionally activated
13:00
energy of anxiety toward movement.
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See take. Some action, you create some
13:05
new opportunities and and I'm not saying
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like frantically run amok and say like
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intentionally say i feel nervous or my
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prospects of this job Okay, I'm a
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lab mix a new network connections. I'm
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in a. You. Know build ups, new
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skills, get some the certificates. If. You
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want to be happy, You have to be willing to. Invest
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in life you have to be willing to
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commit. Even. When you're not certain.
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Life. Is uncertain you can
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choose to struggle against that
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the and self sabotage. In
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order to create a sense of
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certainty. Or. You can go
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out and plant the tree. Even. If you won't,
13:40
be there to watch it grow up. You're.
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Still making the world a better place. So.
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I'm on a practical level. What Do we
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do? Have It can be really helpful
13:50
to write these things down. Even start with the Locus
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of Control exercise which I talk about all the time
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You that you take a piece of paper's you draw
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a line on the middle. He devoted to two sides.
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what can't I. Troll, what can I control and
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then the as use What am I really care
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about. What? Good can I do?
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How can I educate myself and you
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just spend less time on the things
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you can't control and. More energy on
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the things. You. Can control.
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Arm out. Also see like watch less
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media about things that are far from
14:19
you. When. You get caught up in
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the things that you can't control. To.
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To write them down and then a redirect
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your attention to what you can control. And
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then take some dating each and. Now.
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This is a skill. you can get good at it.
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As you build your capacity to handle
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uncertainty. You're going to make better
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choices that lead to better outcomes. You'll.
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Stop blowing up relationships, You'll
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stop self sabotaging the you'll
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be more willing to take
14:47
risks with rewards. And in
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the long run, you'll be healthier and
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happier. K If you'd like to learn
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more skills for or working through big.
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Uncomfortable most? Is that a healthy way
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