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Hello everybody and welcome

1:01

to season two of podcast in a tree

1:03

with myself, Tim Beck. And myself,

1:05

Guy Montgomery. He's there. You

1:08

waited just long enough to step in that I thought, he's not

1:10

going to do it. Yeah. I'll do it.

1:12

Well, it's fun to muck around. Yeah.

1:16

It's fun to sort of tease you.

1:18

Yeah. Uh, and, but I think

1:20

it's important people know my name

1:22

as well. As important as

1:24

yours. I totally agree with you. Yeah.

1:26

That's why in the pause where I thought

1:29

yours wasn't forthcoming, I was rushing in to

1:31

make sure someone let the people know Guy

1:33

Montgomery is here. Yeah. It's the two of

1:35

us. Everybody put down your weapons. Guy

1:39

is here. Yeah. And

1:42

I'm, um, I'm wearing a yellow t-shirt. It's

1:44

nice to be in podcast in a tree. This

1:48

is part of the transition period of

1:50

a course. I think

1:52

this. Yeah.

1:59

It could be the best. This is where, right

2:01

now, this is where we're meant to be. And

2:04

there have been times where I felt like this is not, maybe

2:07

it was where we're meant to be, but it's not where I want to

2:09

be. And so I

2:11

think what I'm finding gratifying is

2:14

being where I want to be

2:16

and where I think we need to be. Okay, great. Which is

2:18

this treat. And- You'll be

2:20

able to hear a bit of ambiance.

2:22

Yeah. And what you'll be treated to-

2:25

Brian Eno is producing this season. Yes.

2:28

And what Brian has added into us

2:31

to give a real authenticity of being

2:33

in an urban environment, cityscape, is

2:36

a bit of traffic noise, hustle and

2:38

bustle, hubbubs. Some birds chirping. We're

2:40

surrounded by trees that

2:44

are not unlike the one we're sitting

2:46

in. Yeah. They've got a lot of

2:48

sort of long, sick, horizontal branches that

2:50

are great for climbing and sitting. And

2:53

it's- But just outside of

2:55

the sort of park we find ourselves in,

2:58

we're surrounded by buildings. Oh, there's so many.

3:00

We're in a little dome of tree. I

3:02

call it an enclave. Oh, that's nice. A

3:04

little garden enclave. And

3:07

it's higher than you thought. Yeah,

3:09

I'm feeling a little slightly unbalanced.

3:12

It's just keeping me ever so slightly on edge.

3:14

Not as much as when I did the turnaround.

3:17

When you climb a tree when you're an

3:19

old man such as you are, now there's

3:21

a lot of sort of quite unflattering, shimmying

3:23

going on. And

3:26

then there comes the time, because you do it very

3:28

safely, and then there comes the time when you've got

3:30

to do the turn to sit properly on

3:32

the branch. And I tell you what, that turn

3:34

was scary. Yeah. I

3:37

hope we've been rolling on the climb. I

3:39

hope we can get a montage of the

3:41

unflattering shimmies, as you call it. I think

3:43

there's some footage there that we can cut,

3:45

too. Because once you're sitting, you do feel

3:48

stable, solid, but

3:52

certainly the getting up is a little

3:54

scary. And then famously, what's more scary than getting up

3:56

a tree can be getting down a tree. Yes, I'm

3:58

not looking forward to that. But at

4:01

the end of the day, I think, were

4:03

we to fall off of this branch? It

4:05

wouldn't rock, but we wouldn't die. You'd get

4:07

ground shock. Yeah, you'd roll out

4:09

of that. Your training would kick in, surely, and

4:11

you'd roll right out of that, right? My training.

4:13

Your training? Yeah, yeah. I've been training,

4:15

by the way, just for

4:17

this sort of situation. Yeah. I

4:20

was trying to deduce what type of tree this is.

4:23

I think this is... What

4:27

does the word deciduous mean? It's

4:29

the opposite of evergreen, so it's when it loses

4:31

its leaves. It's nothing to do with that.

4:33

Okay. What's... It's

4:36

an introduced tree. What's the opposite of native?

4:39

Ah, yeah, introduced. Great word. Oh,

4:41

I think... In demic, I

4:43

think, is when it's only in the place,

4:45

right? You see, there's lots of lovely words

4:47

around this area. Yeah. And there's certainly... We

4:49

pick them off the shelf, we're having a

4:51

lot, we're going, ooh, I don't know how

4:53

this one moves. There'll be ecological listeners who

4:55

are saying, these turkeys don't know they're

4:58

trees from their arseholes. Yeah, but we do. Here's

5:00

the thing, we actually do. Yeah. My

5:02

arsehole's on the tree. It's been three... Two

5:05

bits of fabric. Three years since we did

5:07

Naked Pod in a Tree is an idea

5:09

for season three. It

5:12

introduces itself after the danger, I think.

5:14

It's already not. It's the safe thing.

5:17

Yeah. I find that really

5:19

funny. Nudetated Susan Socks. That's crack

5:21

up. But it is actually quite practical.

5:23

I don't know that anyone wants that. No,

5:25

that's quite right. It's been...

5:28

Really climbing is... You'd be privy to some

5:30

serious... You want to talk about an unflattering

5:32

shimmy. Oh boy, some angles. But it was

5:34

just some danger. Yeah. Shimming

5:36

across three years is what I'm trying to get to the

5:38

bottom of. Three years since we did our last season of

5:40

Podcast in a Tree, so much has changed. Yeah.

5:43

And in some ways, so much has stayed the

5:45

same. Just at the end

5:47

of the day, two guys in Tamaki Mikoto, trying

5:49

to make it work and treat it

5:51

to some beautiful weather. Yeah. The

5:55

hottest summer in the history of Auckland so

5:57

far. That must be a good

5:59

thing. Wow, if you could

6:01

get that, you know We

6:04

can just stop it here. Yeah, if there's just some

6:06

way we could say it's like this is nice That

6:09

didn't I I was telling you this morning in the car sort

6:11

of woke up with a bit of anxiety This

6:13

morning just because there's a lot of things going

6:15

on and then for some goddamn

6:17

reason I watched like a science video on

6:21

Recent research and why change while I was having my

6:23

breakfast shouldn't have done that. Do you

6:25

know I breakfast was pretty good I try not to

6:27

watch videos in the morning. I Tend

6:30

not to watch any I try to stay off

6:32

I've got to do my daily word puzzles that

6:34

is something I'm doing first thing in the morning

6:36

and You know,

6:38

so you got to email you go you go do

6:41

some work, but generally speaking Yeah, I'm trying

6:43

to stay off the script like I wouldn't I would Unless

6:46

there's a sports hot sports highlight. Okay, so

6:48

I'm watching sports highlights in the morning some

6:50

of the time nothing wrong with that But

6:52

I'm not watching I'm not looking up videos

6:55

about global warming I'm not

6:57

looking them up. I've done enough looking up

6:59

there now the algorithm is like this one

7:01

I'm like that looks interesting the

7:03

algorithm recently say give me Maybe

7:07

I was gonna start climbing trees. It's

7:09

taking me some pretty extreme suggestions like

7:11

ah Like the world's

7:13

highest cliff dive. Ah 58

7:16

meters Wow, the guy

7:18

had like 120 kilometers per hour Oh

7:21

that makes me so sick even being a little bit off

7:23

the ground hearing that makes me feel so so So

7:25

fast 120 kilometers an

7:28

hour and then at the end he puts

7:30

his feet together Yeah, you gotta put your

7:32

feet together or you'll get

7:34

too much water up your bum and it will come

7:36

out your mouth Wow, that might

7:38

not be true. But doesn't that feel like it

7:40

could be true the physics of it all It

7:44

sounds so painful. We were I was on a

7:46

boat the other day. Okay, you go first I

7:48

was on a boat for birthday party, which can

7:50

I say that's a great idea Well,

7:53

you know some people will have boats all the

7:55

time. That's nuts to me. No one should have

7:57

a boat really way

8:00

about swimming pools even though I've got a swimming pool.

8:02

No one should have a swimming pool. No one should

8:04

have a swimming pool. Swimming pool should

8:06

be solely a public good. No

8:08

one should have an individual swimming pool. I say

8:11

that it's something hesitant. What about, yeah, I mean

8:15

I've always had this opinion though. This isn't a

8:17

recent adoption of an opinion. I've been boxed

8:22

into a hypocritical

8:25

corner. Yeah,

8:28

so okay but you were on a boat. Oh

8:30

yeah. Something was bungee jumping

8:32

as we went through the bridge. It was

8:35

really cool. I've done that bungee

8:37

jump. How was it? I

8:39

did it backwards. So I'd done one before we

8:42

were facing front. I did it backwards and that

8:44

felt scarier. Yeah. I can remember the lurching

8:47

feeling in my tummy. When I went skydiving

8:49

I went the guy because I think I

8:51

did this weird thing where I just

8:53

sort of like clicked off to

8:55

it. I was just excited. I was never nervous

8:57

about it until we got to altitude on the

9:00

plane. You know like weeks before in

9:02

Dazapri and I was like you're nervous and you're

9:04

nervous. And then I was on the plane. I was

9:06

like it's just occurred to

9:08

me what this is. Yeah you're

9:10

gonna jump out of the plane. And I think because

9:12

I've been playing it so cool because I hadn't reckoned

9:14

with it. The guy I was strapped to was

9:17

fucking with me. And so we fell out

9:19

of the plane backwards. And when you've got

9:22

yeah you're back to the earth and you're

9:24

traveling that quickly it's

9:26

pretty scary. Yeah well

9:29

so this is um and

9:33

so I've got so many things I want to say

9:35

which is two. Okay. And neither of them are interesting.

9:37

I'll be the judge of that. The first one is that um when

9:41

I was talking about hitting the water when you jump from high and

9:43

you want to you know you got to

9:45

clench your butt. Yes. And that's a feeling

9:47

I actually um enjoy and have been doing

9:49

a bit recently is clenching my butt. Yeah.

9:51

Because I now have four

9:53

tattoos on my butt. Yeah. And one

9:57

of the great motivations to keep my butt

9:59

taut is... these tattoos. I

10:01

don't want the, like this is vanity,

10:03

but I don't want the skin

10:05

to stretch too much and then for the tattoos

10:08

to become distorted. And so quite

10:10

often if I remember I have tattoos on my butt, I

10:13

will, I'll drop trowel and I'll look in the mirror

10:15

and I'll be

10:19

like, are these still, are these still taut?

10:21

Are these all looking right? Are these all

10:23

on the right scale? Is there vanity? I guess

10:26

it's quite a, I don't know

10:28

where vanity, you know,

10:30

begins and ends and meets pride

10:32

in one's appearance. It's fun to talk

10:34

through there.

10:36

Yeah. I mean, what's the trouble with that? I

10:39

think it's all, it's all, it's all bespoke to

10:41

the person, isn't it? Yeah. And then, oh

10:43

boy, having

10:46

a little cough when you're up this high, even

10:48

scary, cause you want to like lean forward to cough, but I

10:50

don't want to lean forward to the left. When I did a

10:52

recce on this tree, I got up here and I was seeing,

10:55

I mean, I thought this feels really high. Yeah. And

10:57

then I went down on the ground and I looked

10:59

at how high it was. I was like, that's not

11:01

like the difference in how it feels and

11:04

how it looks from the ground. Have you ever been in the water?

11:06

I have.

11:09

You know how little waves look from the shore? Yeah.

11:13

And then you go in the water and you're like, these

11:15

waves are the biggest waves I've ever seen. Yeah. There are

11:17

no waves bigger than perspective. Yeah.

11:20

Heights are really weird for that. Really

11:23

weird. Hey, it's time for

11:25

our first segment. I'm itching for it. Our

11:28

first segment is the return of

11:31

Drugs in a Tree. Yeah. Now,

11:34

do you know when we first did this podcast, I

11:36

would, there was a place I would

11:39

go to buy beer sometimes. Yes. And one

11:41

of the people that worked there said to

11:43

me, oh, I've been listening to your new

11:45

podcast, Drugs in a Tree. And

11:48

I thought, that's not what it's

11:50

called, but I can see how you think

11:52

that's what it is. I've had multiple people

11:54

tell me the same thing. Yeah. That is

11:56

the name of this series. And this

11:59

is cool, man. This what you want to

12:01

call it? Yeah, God. Yeah, I'm not gonna correct you

12:03

for us. It's just um Drugs

12:06

in a tree you're a part of yeah, I'll casting

12:08

in a tree which I guess it's always this part

12:10

of being in a tree Yeah also

12:14

You know for those of you fortunate enough to see

12:16

the tree and see what we're doing right now you'll

12:18

observe We're off

12:21

the handheld. That's safe. I would

12:23

love that. That's a good point For

12:26

every recording we've ever done for

12:28

the last decade. We've had handheld

12:30

microphones Except today for some

12:33

reason I decided to bust out the

12:35

lapels I think because I thought

12:37

it would make it a bit easier to be in a

12:39

tree and do drugs in a tree and yeah Yeah, the

12:41

tree This is quite a

12:43

business like tree to be doing drugs

12:45

in but the drugs we have selected

12:47

today is a business drug It's a

12:49

great cocaine. Yeah, it helps you make

12:52

fast decisions Correctly yes, which

12:54

is what should I buy this bank?

12:57

Yeah? Yes now matter of fact. It's

12:59

a it's an even more Now

13:03

I Want to say endemic

13:05

Tim this is another word. I'm taking off the shelf

13:07

to look at go with God Is that

13:10

is that allowed and I don't know what the rest

13:12

of the sentence it I mean you're allowed to do

13:14

whatever man more of an endemic drug. It's it's caffeine

13:16

Yeah, have you had any of this drug today? None

13:20

and how often do you have this drug

13:22

generally okay? Caffeine

13:24

no cat and and people who have listened

13:26

this podcast would know this I quite enjoy

13:28

drugs. I think they're a good time Yeah,

13:31

I honestly think caffeine

13:33

is my fav really yeah,

13:35

the last one you would give up Yeah,

13:38

I think so Holy moly. Yeah,

13:40

what happens if you forget to have caffeine?

13:42

Well I do sometimes because I I like it so

13:45

much that then my body gets used to it And

13:47

then I'll like forget to have a coffee, and then

13:49

I'll get a headache and I I just I don't

13:51

want to be addicted to anything your binge and purge

13:53

I Don't Bend

13:56

your vision purge big time wait wait. Yeah,

13:58

you're purging see river okay? Okay, yeah. That's

14:02

no healthier than just being addicted outright, isn't it?

14:05

I don't know. You could be

14:07

right, but at least the addiction is

14:09

interrupted for a bit. So like, in

14:11

two months or something, I'll go, no coffees.

14:14

And I try to just go one coffee a

14:16

day. Your body will be like sweet respite. Shit's

14:20

coming out solid. Yeah. Sleep's

14:22

regular. Everything's groovy. Well, the sleep

14:24

thing I have gotten on top of, because

14:26

I used to be quite psychotic and have

14:28

coffees also late in the day. There's something

14:30

a little bit European about

14:32

an 8 p.m. espresso though. There's

14:36

something a bit delightful. Europeans have a

14:38

different constitution. They can handle it. You

14:41

know what I always think about, Tim? When

14:43

I think about us, us,

14:46

you and I, and us as a country,

14:49

and a people. Guy

14:51

Timlins. Well, we're not European. Like

14:55

Mediterranean Europeans are. We're European of

14:57

descent in that we're Pakiha. But

15:00

think about when we went to one of our trips

15:03

to Los Angeles and we were flying

15:05

back to New Zealand and we got off the plane

15:07

and he said, oh, we're

15:10

back in the land of the potato people. And

15:13

I think about it probably

15:15

monthly. I think about. I

15:19

might have gotten that turn of phrase from

15:21

Matt Hayes. From him. Wow. I

15:23

think he might've coined that. Friend of the

15:26

part, Matt Hayes. Yeah, there's

15:28

something to it though, isn't there? Well, I

15:30

just think when I think about like a

15:32

potato person can't have an espresso after eight

15:34

o'clock because it's just gonna stain the potato.

15:38

It'll ruin the potato. It's

15:41

just different. Anyway, I already

15:43

had, can I tell you? I've already had two

15:47

Mokka Masters and

15:49

one oat flat white

15:51

already today. Really? This is my fourth coffin.

15:55

It's early right now. I got up at

15:57

quarter past six. You just feel like I'm

15:59

gonna. to get everything done. I got up at

16:01

quarter past six and then realized I'm not allowed to

16:03

go on a screen and just started drinking coffee. Wow,

16:06

that's cool. Do you like that though? Do you like

16:08

overloading on coffee from time to time? No, no, I

16:10

don't at all. And I've already done...

16:14

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16:17

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for me yeah an

18:14

iced out latte for Tim And

18:18

I flat white I'm almost

18:20

certain I brought this up last time We were

18:22

doing podcasting and tree and did the caffeine one,

18:24

but just in case I do caffeine entry last

18:26

time Yeah, I think we did one of

18:28

the episodes It's

18:30

an important drug The world

18:32

we live in is run on caffeine and

18:34

cocaine It's for a long time, and I

18:36

think it would go a lot better if we

18:38

were a mushrooms and weed society I Like

18:43

this thought um Do

18:45

you genuinely think the world is running cocaine

18:47

yeah? Well coffee and cocaine? It's like everything's

18:49

like up up up a bit quick quick

18:52

quick buy a bank a powerful people more

18:54

likely to be tea toddlers or Users

18:57

now the well I can't answer

18:59

that directly But what I

19:01

will say is the latest who are tea toddlers. I

19:04

cannot trust yeah Yeah, because then

19:06

you have your hands so firmly

19:08

gripping the wheel that I it

19:10

makes me super nervous about everything

19:13

That's one of the scariest aspects of Donald J.

19:16

Trump Thank you You

19:19

too, brother Don't

19:21

you think that the scariest well one of

19:23

the many very scary things about Trump is

19:25

that he just like no booze

19:28

No, nothing. I know and the unvarnished truth,

19:30

but he's not he's not detail in there

19:33

He's got to be on he's on things

19:35

a good point like You

19:37

know and I think these people qualified if it's

19:40

not illegal, so if it's an over-the-counter Opioid

19:42

or upper yeah, I still think now

19:45

I'm clean even though I'd say it's

19:47

probably having a more detrimental effect to

19:49

their Cognitive function than say just every

19:53

Fourth weekend having some psychedelic. Yeah,

19:55

then that helps. I think it

19:57

gives Perspective to the.

20:00

The united the universality of

20:02

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20:04

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deserves Was I right? Preamble: I enjoy

20:08

an ass weekend from waiting to we

20:11

came back He arrives good society line

20:13

litter never quite sounded. got what it

20:15

does is. Funny. Thing is it up.

20:18

Jokes. China. Get em.

20:23

What? Do you do In a situation I'm going

20:25

to thrive? See them. I just take run on

20:27

of fear. I. Say we didn't do

20:29

nothing and I change everything around him. for

20:31

Zoc our put all this painting ramps yeah

20:33

I know these ones are funny for everyone.

20:35

But. I'm going to keep saying this one for me to the

20:37

i think it's pretty crap now and then if it ever. Come.

20:40

Rights. Very. Really every now

20:42

and then the battle connect with the ball

20:44

but it won't won't have a job that

20:46

I was doing. I from my so I

20:49

will can get a laugh about a Maybelline.

20:51

They. Returned as she was born with it. They.

20:54

Had some new putting in. I'm in the mix. And

20:57

gnome would laugh. And I would

20:59

say off to retire to the i

21:01

say there's gonna be a joke feel

21:03

say and I fuckin I read a

21:05

lot of jokes around it to sort

21:07

of think the audience I guess but

21:09

then I elevated that it's oh so

21:11

say to all the data as online

21:14

site address the camera guy I am

21:16

camera One. Which one is camera one

21:18

where they run their. Allies

21:20

as Fuck, You and your Demoss

21:22

comedic tice. Reddit.

21:24

And and zones I kissed a job where it's

21:26

like talks about. I know

21:29

it's the most about comedy and he's as

21:31

to get approved from the people in our

21:33

lives on our lives in it is very

21:35

guess it was a really that guy. I'd.

21:37

Be saying well James, I know.

21:40

Many. Drug I suppose. I'm. Abroad

21:43

something along for us to. Experience

21:46

Review: I guess we edl assemblages in

21:48

the first season. Damn lot. And

21:51

I'm once. Or I do This

21:53

time is. I.

21:55

Describe This is. Not.

21:58

a pre sandwich sign on traditionally will have

22:00

before a sandwich, if I'm feeling

22:02

European, this

22:04

is an armand croissant. Now

22:07

I've got this armand croissant from a bakery on Mount

22:09

Eden Road. Dude,

22:12

so as you know we've been listening

22:14

back to season 1 episodes and the

22:16

armand croissant is something that has permeated

22:18

from the very earliest days of the

22:20

podcast. There's two things you can

22:22

sit your watch to with worst idea of all time. Try

22:25

and Tim watching a bad movie and

22:27

armand croissant finding their way in the

22:29

mix. Well, I'm so delighted

22:31

it's here. Yeah, yeah. How could it not

22:34

be? So, thank you sir.

22:37

Now I don't, you know, this is like a test. Can

22:40

I take a bite? Yeah, yeah, you can do as much as you want,

22:42

it's yours. Um,

22:45

this is a control croissant I guess, like you know,

22:47

I haven't had an armand croissant probably all year. So

22:51

I'm sure, on entry I'm just going to

22:53

like it for being an armand croissant, I'm going to like it for

22:55

who it is. I

22:58

can already tell you though, it's

23:00

not the number one armand croissant

23:02

I've ever had. Okay. It's

23:05

yum, it's an armand croissant but... What

23:11

elevates an armand croissant for you? There

23:13

is, at Casadour there is

23:15

a moistness within

23:18

the flakiness. Yeah,

23:20

that just... I would say

23:22

that as someone who's not crazy about armand croissant so

23:24

you wouldn't be able to pick it. No, no, not

23:26

the way you're talking about them right now. In-depth critique.

23:29

But all the loves of my life

23:31

love an armand croissant. Guy Montgomery, my

23:33

wife Zoe, she loves an

23:35

armand croissant. I

23:37

think this is good. I know what you mean like, what's

23:40

that armand filling for? I

23:43

want to say it's marzipan but it's not. Mmm,

23:46

I don't even mean it's not quite butter. I

23:49

wonder if the new microphones make it more

23:52

or less disgusting to talk. That's

23:55

a form of misophonia you have, eh? Mmm.

23:58

Maybe watch the food show. I

24:03

mean the cooking is all good. I like a chop chop chop

24:05

and I like a... How do they do

24:07

the audio mix when they do their mouthfuls? I'm

24:10

thinking of Nigella Lawson just being like

24:12

basically having an orgasm while testing a

24:14

teaspoon of chocolate sauce. One

24:16

way to cover up the smacking look sounds?

24:18

Yeah, exactly. So they have

24:21

a screaming orgasm? Noisy mouth or am

24:23

I coming at this pudding? Yeah. I'm

24:26

coming at this pudding. Fellas have

24:28

the most pathetic orgasms, eh? They're so

24:30

quiet. Yeah. It's

24:32

like they're trying to keep a secret. No,

24:35

perhaps not the Italians. Have

24:39

you made an Italian man come to them? Not

24:41

yet. Not

24:46

yet. I want you to score

24:48

this out of five. Three.

24:52

Wow. Yeah? Three

24:58

is too low, man. You reckon? 3.5

25:02

amin' for some. They're

25:05

worse. I'm

25:08

holding steady. Okay. But I'm really

25:11

enjoying it and I appreciate you

25:13

getting it and bringing it. What's

25:17

6.5 out of 10 divided

25:20

by 2? No.

25:27

Oh, wait, what are you taking? Yeah.

25:36

Yeah. Sorry. No,

25:39

no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me

25:41

show you, man. It's okay. Man.

25:43

Don't you still have me something? Math, though. Forget about

25:45

it. What do you think of the city

25:48

at the moment, Guy? I haven't been spending very much time

25:50

at all in this town of ours recently. Well, I feel

25:52

a little disconnected from the city. I actually have. I

25:54

went from work to the central city yesterday. And

26:00

the sun was shining. And

26:06

there were sort of a few people mixing and

26:08

mingling around. I went into a fantastic bookstore. I

26:10

bought a book. Then

26:15

I went to like a... We're

26:18

not known for alleyways, but I went to a little

26:20

pub down an alleyway. And I had

26:22

a pint while I read my book. And I

26:25

was by myself. I was truly by myself. Sounds

26:27

like a hot day. I was

26:29

sitting in... This

26:32

is like really good. That's what I was thinking. And

26:35

also I was enjoying the

26:37

sort of... I was

26:39

enjoying the city, which is not something I've

26:41

never in the city, really. It's

26:44

a funny thing where they're building a lot of

26:47

train stations, I understand. But

26:49

they've been doing it for so long, I've forgotten that there's

26:51

an end goal. I just assumed that the

26:54

areas where the train stations will be, to me, are

26:56

just permanent construction sites. So when

26:59

the surprise, the reveal, when they say, we

27:02

were actually building something. What? That's

27:04

going to feel remarkable. That's

27:07

why I think. It's going to be an incredible day. And

27:10

it's going to happen in some like two years. What's

27:13

that? Maybe a year. Yeah.

27:18

They've been going for a phenomenally long amount of time.

27:21

And you're right, this city is just in a permanent state of...

27:24

All big cities are. But this city in

27:26

particular, it got

27:28

hit hard. I just think... Tried to

27:30

build a train the same time COVID hit out. I

27:32

just miss... What I wish there

27:34

was more of is people

27:37

walking. That's what the city lacks. Yeah.

27:41

And then I think that's what I was enjoying yesterday,

27:43

was people were walking. Speaking of your delightful pub excursion

27:45

with a book, the

27:47

bit of Auckland I'm living in now, West

27:49

Auckland, is controlled,

27:52

the boozers, by this

27:54

board. Yeah. And

27:56

I think I want to free up some time

27:58

to take these guys down. Really? Yeah.

28:01

Everything I'm finding out. What's their

28:04

problem? We got a

28:06

fucking situation out here in West Auckland.

28:08

What's the deal? So unlike

28:10

anywhere else in New Zealand, they've

28:12

got this incredibly restrictive alcohol licensing

28:14

board, and it seems to be

28:16

like nine people sitting on

28:18

this board. And the chair earns

28:21

like a million dollars a year to

28:23

be the chair of this board. And

28:26

they're getting away with it because they

28:28

dish out a little bit of money

28:31

to charities in the neighbourhood. But it's

28:33

stopping any small bars or independent breweries

28:35

starting up. You can't buy

28:37

booze at the supermarket. Yeah. So then

28:39

Countdown just make a wine store opposite

28:41

the Countdown supermarket. And

28:44

the only two people benefiting, it seems to me,

28:47

are the monopolies, the big supermarkets

28:49

who can afford to like get this

28:51

big expensive liquor license. And

28:53

these people they're paying their money to. Something's

28:56

got to be done about this guy. You're

28:59

the guy. All

29:02

right. Well, I've moved in now. There's a new

29:04

sheriff in town. Can I ask in the last

29:07

three years? How

29:10

many trees have you been up? Zero.

29:13

Really? Since we last. Did

29:15

this? That's a lie. Maybe

29:17

two. I

29:19

reckon I did some climbing and I've forgotten about

29:21

it when I was with some high school buddies

29:23

at one of our our

29:26

famous get to get this. Yeah,

29:28

they are famous. So it's in the news.

29:30

Yeah. Let

29:33

him write, I say. Let

29:36

him record it. Well.

29:42

Not a lot. Not a lot else to say in

29:44

this tree for me, Tim. No, I don't

29:46

think so. So time to review the tree. I'm

29:50

giving Climbability a three

29:53

and a half, same as what you guys are on. Well,

29:56

you went down to three point two five. I

29:58

that was the average. our scores. Oh

30:02

yep. 3.5 for me.

30:05

Beauty? 4. It's

30:09

a stunning tree. It's

30:12

got very old branches and new growth

30:14

coming off of it. Something

30:16

quite awesome about that. Can't

30:20

recall what the other metrics were but I'd love to hear your

30:22

thoughts on this tree guy. I mean it's got to be a

30:25

4 for climbability. I think

30:27

your bravery is what you're reviewing negatively there.

30:29

I think this is as far as climbable

30:31

trees go. I'm looking at,

30:34

there's one, two, three, four, five

30:37

offshoots from the

30:42

central trunk that are climbable. How

30:45

many trees can you see that for? See here's

30:47

the problem guy, they're just one central big offshoot

30:49

but there's not enough complexity to hold on to

30:51

stuff. Up there, you can shimmy up there, you

30:53

can go up higher, you

30:55

can go out further. I'll try and get

30:57

a shot on the cellphone.

31:00

Hi, Beauty. It's

31:02

hard not to factor in the surrounds so it's hard to

31:04

analyse a tree just for the tree it is isn't it?

31:07

You're talking about this bit huh? You're talking

31:10

about this bit here? It's a climbability.

31:12

I think I'll give it a 4 for Beauty. This is a 4

31:14

star tree. A

31:18

4 star tree? Yeah. Overall, there

31:20

you have it folks. We've started Oso Strong on

31:22

the first episode of podcast in the tree. Thanks

31:25

for joining us. You're feeling high? I'm feeling

31:28

a bit more pippy yeah. Oh yeah, you

31:30

can actually feel the caffeine taking hold. Absolutely

31:32

I can. If I

31:35

got stung by a bee, I'd just have to

31:37

like, I'd fall to my broken leg.

31:39

Can you just take this thing? I

31:41

would try to but you know. Are you

31:44

ageing? Is this podcast about you getting old?

31:47

We're all getting old man. Not me. Really?

31:50

Nah. I

31:52

told you I woke up, I was feeling a bit tense

31:54

and I think I'm bringing that to the tree. I'm

31:57

gonna um extend my prime.

32:00

Fuck you dude. I'm

32:02

just gonna do it I don't know how I'm

32:05

not making any changes to my diet or

32:07

lifestyle really. Pretty healthy guy. I'm

32:09

pretty healthy I could be a lot healthier

32:12

but then you're sacrificing lifestyle. Example

32:18

I don't need to do a giant rock

32:20

of crack cocaine every morning. However however.

32:23

The banks aren't gonna buy themselves. That's

32:25

right. And here we

32:27

are. Who owns the banks? It's

32:33

a question for another day. I started

32:38

wrapping this up ages

32:40

ago. I reckon I started

32:42

wrapping it up. That's true. But

32:45

you've introduced some interesting veins. Yeah.

32:47

That I don't have a huge

32:50

amount of propensity to explore. That's

32:52

okay I got sleep in my eyes.

32:54

Oh boy. Guy's gonna get that

32:56

out and we'll catch you guys in the

32:58

next episode of Podcasts and Tree Season 2. We'll see you

33:00

in the next tree. See you

33:02

there. With a guest. Oh.

33:05

We're gonna have a guest. It's

33:07

not just gonna be us. Okay. It's gonna be

33:09

a third person. They're not allowed in the

33:11

tree though. Okay. Guest on the

33:14

ground. Guest on the ground. Always.

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