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LTT Released 3rd Party Investigation Summary - WAN Show May 24, 2024

LTT Released 3rd Party Investigation Summary - WAN Show May 24, 2024

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0:00

show. We've got a great show lined up for you

0:02

guys this week. Google's AI

0:04

overviews feature launched and is

0:06

doing all kinds of wacky

0:08

things, citing the onion recommending

0:10

the health benefits of drinking

0:12

urine. Good job,

0:14

Google. In other news, Spotify

0:17

bricks its thing, which is

0:19

going to make a lot more sense to you

0:21

if you know what the thing is, which

0:23

we will cover later. What else

0:26

we got today? LTT released third

0:28

party investigation summary and the arm

0:30

windows revolution might come packed with

0:33

a privacy nightmare.

0:35

Oh yeah, that's going to be very interesting.

0:38

We'll talk about that. The

0:59

WAN Show is brought to you by Ridge

1:01

Acronis, Moose End, and our new

1:03

WAN Show partner, Secret Lab.

1:06

We've been sitting on their chairs for years, so

1:08

it just made sense. Check them out at the

1:10

link in the video description. To

1:12

start us off, we've got the LTT released

1:15

third party investigation summary. LMG committed

1:17

to releasing the results when this whole thing

1:19

started and they did so by posting it

1:21

on X, formerly known as Twitter. The WAN

1:24

Show is not the place to discuss HR

1:26

matters, so we won't be talking about it

1:28

here. Go check it out yourself if you

1:30

are interested. I also need to note that

1:33

any comments in live chat or merch messages

1:35

about this topic will just be ignored and

1:37

any bullying or harassment of any involved

1:39

party could result in consequences, including a

1:42

permanent ban. So let's just not.

1:44

But let us continue

1:46

on with the show. Yeah, do you want

1:48

to jump right into Spotify bricking its thing?

1:50

Yeah. OK, so first of

1:52

all, I had completely forgotten about the

1:55

car thing. Yes. OK, so it's an

1:57

accessory. Forget about it. I never knew

1:59

it existed. slash infotainment device and

2:01

the idea was to be able to

2:03

have Spotify in a car that doesn't

2:05

have Android Auto or doesn't have CarPlay

2:07

or maybe you just don't feel like

2:10

using Android Auto or CarPlay and you

2:12

just wanted this dedicated device to connect

2:14

to Spotify and what's kind of cool

2:16

about it is that people weren't just

2:18

using it in their cars. I saw,

2:21

was it, I don't know, it was

2:23

someone. Someone on the internet

2:25

said that they kind of used it in

2:27

their workshop but basically it was just an

2:29

interface that allowed you to interface

2:32

with Spotify. It

2:34

was invite only and it was launched

2:36

in April of 2021 and then launched

2:39

publicly in February of 2022 for $90.

2:43

It was then pulled from sale

2:46

just five months later meaning that

2:49

many devices, many users who own

2:51

these devices have had them for

2:53

less than two years and nobody

2:55

who has one has had it

2:57

for more than about three years.

3:00

Now just this week

3:02

Spotify, okay hold on, first

3:04

of all, Spotify began noticing

3:06

people that, they

3:08

got notifying people that the

3:10

car thing will be discontinued

3:12

as of December 9th of

3:14

this year and it

3:17

will be rendered completely inoperable.

3:20

So not only are they

3:22

discontinuing it, they're actually going

3:24

okay this is the date, this

3:26

is the hard date, throw

3:29

it in the garbage. It

3:31

gets better. I mean worse, sorry, worse, that

3:33

was a verbal typo, it gets worse. Spotify

3:36

is neither offering a

3:39

refund nor is

3:41

it even offering a store

3:43

f***ing credit. It is

3:45

basically going hey thanks

3:47

for your $90. We hope you

3:49

enjoyed the limited amount of time that

3:51

you had to own that product that

3:54

we, I don't know, I

3:56

guess this is now a retroactive lease agreement.

4:01

I think you might have basically just specified

4:03

this but when was the last like when

4:05

people someone have ordered it the same day

4:07

that it was discontinued No, people

4:09

could have ordered this as recently as March April

4:11

May June July as recently as the summer of

4:13

2022 so

4:15

a little less

4:18

than two years ago That's

4:21

wild though. I don't get it. I don't

4:23

understand why like I could understand

4:25

saying like, okay We're gonna end of life this

4:28

thing. It's not gonna receive updates But

4:30

it would probably keep working for a pretty considerable

4:32

amount of time Well,

4:34

yes and no because whatever whatever

4:36

API hooks it might rely on

4:40

Maybe it doesn't and I mean, this is

4:42

a funny one to me because it is

4:44

mind-blowing to me my understanding and guys correct

4:46

me If I'm wrong here. My understanding is

4:48

that it's it's just like an Android based

4:51

pretty simple thing So

4:56

From my point of view. I don't

4:58

really see the reason why this wouldn't

5:00

have just been Like

5:02

running the Android app in the background and the

5:04

interface wouldn't have just been the same as any

5:07

other device in which case to Luke's Point there's

5:09

no reason it couldn't just keep working for a

5:11

very long period of time kind of like when

5:13

Pebble stopped getting updates to the app. Yeah, dude

5:16

that worked for Years, you

5:18

know, they didn't actually kill it. Yeah,

5:20

they didn't actively shut it down. Yeah

5:23

Um People

5:25

are trying to sell them I'm finding

5:27

a like eBay dot CA people are

5:29

trying to sell So the only reason

5:31

I can think of for them to

5:33

actively kill it right now would be

5:36

if they created some kind of custom

5:38

Backend or custom interface for it

5:40

to interact with and this is

5:42

something that maybe you can explain

5:44

to me Okay, because I don't

5:46

understand it when I read comments

5:48

in the YouTube creator studio app

5:52

They are you've talked to me about yeah, I've talked to

5:54

you about this. Okay, they are Not

5:58

the same as the ones that are publicly

6:01

accessible. Okay, so for

6:03

example, if I sort by newest, the

6:05

Creator Studio app will be like missing

6:07

a bunch of them. And if I

6:09

go sort by newest on the

6:11

live site, they're all

6:13

there. There's more of them there. Why

6:17

the ever loving f**k

6:20

do they have two databases

6:23

of the comments on the studio? No, no, no,

6:25

no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. Stop

6:27

typing. I

6:29

just realized they're typing. Yeah, I know what

6:31

they're talking to. Okay, YouTube

6:33

is a massive service that has

6:36

people accessing it from all over

6:38

the world. It operates at a

6:40

scale that is barely imaginable to

6:43

the lay person. They absolutely have

6:45

geo replicated servers running their services.

6:47

I get it. That's

6:50

not what this is. I

6:52

don't think it's and I know this. I

6:55

know this for a fact. It's

6:57

it's what I'm hooking into a separate for

7:00

whatever reason that I can't possibly fathom.

7:03

It is it is a sub it's

7:05

a subset. Why?

7:08

Why would

7:10

you redo work? Help

7:13

me. Well, I don't I don't think they did

7:15

redo work. I don't think they're

7:17

pulling from two different data sets. I'm

7:21

not necessarily sure what's going on. It

7:23

doesn't make a ton of sense to me. But

7:25

I don't know how the thing is built. And

7:28

I mean, this isn't this isn't my actual job either.

7:30

So I'm sure developers out there could give a better

7:33

answer. But to me, it feels

7:35

like you have to you have probably two different

7:37

front end solutions pulling in different

7:39

ways pulling at different times. Why

7:44

the creator one like you're saying it

7:46

doesn't have ones that are on the

7:48

live one. That feels almost backwards to

7:50

me. Yeah, I'd feel like the creator

7:52

one would pull like more frequently. You

7:54

would think that what I would

7:57

think so the fact that it works the other way

7:59

around feels weird. to me. I

8:03

can't fully explain it personally. Personally,

8:05

if I was building this thing, I would expect

8:07

them to act identically.

8:11

I can understand how there would be two different

8:13

entire teams. The team that works on the YouTube

8:15

Studio app is probably a team of people that

8:17

is completely different than the team that works on

8:19

the YouTube app. But why are they doing anything

8:22

other than tapping into the same API? Why?

8:24

So they could, but they could in a different way.

8:27

Okay, why? Maybe they pull comments less

8:30

frequently, whatever. But why? They

8:32

probably don't talk to each other, so they don't necessarily know how the other

8:34

team is doing it. I

8:39

would think that there would be some form

8:41

of standardized thing, but I have no idea.

8:43

I haven't worked at a company in that

8:45

scale, and it just doesn't make

8:47

sense to me at all. So I'm trying to

8:49

make assumptions about something that I don't get how

8:52

it would become that way. Yeah,

8:54

it's a baffling thing, dude. I

8:57

think it's teams not directly communicating

8:59

with each other, accessing the same

9:01

repository, but in different ways, and

9:04

that's creating a frustrating experience. There

9:06

was another discrepancy that I found a while

9:08

back that just completely broke my

9:10

brain. I'm going to see

9:12

if I can pull it up because I sent

9:15

it to our YouTube rep who is a wonderful

9:17

human being and one of my favoritest persons that

9:19

I've ever had the pleasure of dealing

9:22

with at a tech company. Oh,

9:27

this is a funny one. May I be the same repo? All

9:33

right. Anyway,

9:35

what is the... Oh,

9:39

yeah, yeah, yeah. Here

9:42

we go. Here we go. So

9:45

I sent a follow-up in March, so

9:47

a couple of months ago. Creator

9:50

Studio mobile app shows 98 replies

9:52

on this thread. One

9:54

screenshot is showing everything that shows up when I

9:56

scroll all the way down. Come

9:58

on, folks. So you can have a

10:00

look at my screenshots here. This

10:02

is the Creator Studio app. So it even

10:05

managed to log the number of replies there

10:07

are supposed to be. And

10:09

this is great. Here

10:12

we go. And then here is

10:15

everything that comes up. That's all

10:17

of them. That's every reply. There is

10:19

no more room to scroll. It's like eight.

10:22

And when I accessed it publicly, because the

10:24

reason, the reason that I was drawn to

10:26

this one in particular was because I had

10:28

replied to it. So I

10:30

replied to it. And I was

10:33

checking in on replies to my reply, because it

10:35

was an active conversation. I

10:37

not only can only see these

10:39

eight responses, I can't see my

10:41

own fucking message. Ha ha ha.

10:46

When have you had said, are those, is there

10:48

a time thing? So are all those messages from

10:51

before a certain period of time? This

10:54

is what a decent amount of my theory is

10:56

leading up. I think those messages are, I

10:59

think it is truncated here. But

11:01

what I can't imagine is any reason

11:03

why. Yeah, I don't

11:05

know. I think that whatever is pulling

11:07

it is not happening at the same rate that it

11:09

happens on the live. No, because I could go back

11:12

ages later and they still wouldn't be there. Oh. Yeah.

11:15

Yeah, so this is the kind of stuff, you

11:17

guys think you got your new YouTube interface and

11:19

you're all mad about that. Guys, that is the

11:22

least of their problems. They can't even figure out

11:24

how many fucking comments are

11:26

in a chain. Man, I remember

11:28

talking to someone at YouTube about this

11:31

years ago. I was like, look, if

11:33

you guys want to be a social media platform,

11:35

you could be. You could be the biggest social

11:38

media platform practically overnight. But

11:40

you've got to deal with comments.

11:42

You've got to deal with user

11:44

to user interaction because it's

11:46

a cluster bomb right now. And to their

11:48

credit, they've done a lot with

11:51

respect to

11:54

automatic moderation of bots

11:57

and stuff like that. It's not perfect, but it's so

11:59

much. better than it was a year or two ago. But

12:02

the fact that they don't have like a, I

12:05

can't imagine. People aren't posting like

12:07

ASCII tanks anymore, but there sure is a

12:09

lot of other spam. There's a lot less

12:11

porn spam, a lot less, like

12:14

way less and it's far less overt.

12:16

There's no more WhatsApp numbers and usernames.

12:18

They have, they have cut down on

12:20

a lot, look. What I'm seeing a

12:22

ton of, and I'm seeing this ubiquitously

12:24

on every video on the platform is.

12:27

Amazon's groundbreaking new cryptocurrency.

12:30

I haven't actually seen a lot of those lately either. Sorry, go ahead.

12:34

Is replies that

12:36

look extremely real. And

12:39

then you look at the little photo. Yep. And

12:42

you're like. I still come across a lot of

12:44

those, but like. I see those all the time.

12:46

Dude, what's even the point of those? Those have

12:48

got to perform a lot worse. Yeah, those can't

12:50

be that effective. So in terms of cutting down

12:52

on the. I wouldn't be too surprised if there

12:54

are some. But those comments, a lot of the

12:56

time. The users clicking on profiles, hoping.

12:59

Sure, look, we

13:02

can acknowledge the improvement. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do

13:04

it. But we can acknowledge the improvement. They don't do it

13:06

as much. Yes. Not even close. It's

13:09

improved, it's improved. So the names needing to not

13:11

be like phone numbers and WhatsApp IDs and stuff.

13:13

That's a big improvement. Okay, so I

13:15

know that it's been at least a conversation. I

13:18

don't know internally at Google, but externally

13:20

to Google. Sure. For years.

13:22

What they should be doing is they should be

13:24

doing more of a Reddit style

13:27

upvoting and downvoting system if they really want

13:29

to improve comment quality. Do they

13:31

not? Can you not downvote? You can

13:33

upvote and downvote. But what you can't have

13:36

is conversation threads

13:39

within a parent comment. Okay,

13:42

so you can't have multiple branches off of

13:44

a parent. That actually gets pretty

13:46

confusing. When people are replying to each other, that

13:49

does get confusing. So this ended up

13:51

on, speaking of Reddit, this ended up

13:53

on the LTT subreddit when I replied

13:55

to someone on The

13:58

pool cleaning robot video. The

14:00

and people started kind of saying

14:02

one is a super aggressive in

14:04

defensive here. When. They thought I

14:07

was replying to the parent comment. But.

14:09

What I was actually replying to.

14:12

Was. One of the comments that

14:14

was a sub com and under

14:16

it by the original poster. So.

14:19

It would because I added them be.

14:21

Assumption was that it was replying to

14:23

the parent comment, but it wasn't I

14:26

was. I was directly addressing things that

14:28

they had said. And

14:31

when some people noticed the more like

14:33

i'm actually Cooper like oh what he

14:35

said makes way more sense because he

14:37

was actually replying to a completely different

14:39

comment. But it gets even better. and

14:41

this is most this is where I'm

14:43

going with this or time back to

14:45

the mobile app When I sort by

14:47

newest I can't see if a comment

14:49

is a parent or child com it.

14:53

So. I never even knew. That

14:55

the original post existed. I

14:58

replied directly to us there reply to

15:00

their own comment not knowing that it

15:02

was a child comment rather than a

15:05

parent comments. So when I saw some

15:07

of the band was to what I

15:09

said I was completely thrown for a

15:11

loop. Was like. Oh.

15:15

You tube A you tube you to. but we

15:17

can't. Live with the of we can't

15:19

live without Cs. Hey. Thanks for

15:22

this career and he who spotify

15:24

what city do. What can they

15:26

do to make this right? Because

15:28

I mean, it's not going to do us any

15:30

good to just say spotify bad. He played them

15:32

forever. What? What can they do? Know. Some.

15:35

Noticed or credit would probably be good. At.

15:38

The very reason enough? Oh.

15:40

how much is a ninety dollar devices is

15:42

not a cheap does this is not some for

15:44

meme products this is something people bought for

15:46

nearly a hundred u s dollars i mean

15:48

probably one hundred bucks by the time they pay

15:51

for shipping for an eye out of north

15:53

decrease of that but whatever in the neighborhood

15:55

of one hundred u s dollars us like meme

15:57

i bought it at the dollar store money

16:01

Yeah, um, I

16:06

don't know. You

16:09

have to be able to stop supporting

16:11

things eventually. Yeah, that's a really good

16:13

point. And whatever reason they did it

16:15

for, the way it

16:17

interfaces with Spotify is not in a

16:19

generic way that will continue to work

16:22

until some unforeseeable time

16:24

in the future. So yeah,

16:27

you've got to be able to discontinue stuff, but

16:29

like this clearly isn't right. Too early. Um,

16:31

they did stop selling it what a year and

16:34

a half ago. So that's good. You should pro

16:36

I believe you should give it more legs than

16:38

that. Um, and then I mean,

16:40

it isn't turning off for another seven months. So it

16:42

will have been two and a half years by the

16:44

time it actually turns off. In my

16:47

opinion, you should never really like

16:50

deactivate things. Just

16:53

let them rot eventually.

16:55

I don't

16:57

know. I'd want to see. I don't think you're

16:59

going to be able to a lot. Like my,

17:02

my brain wants to, is thinking about like when,

17:04

when games shut down, we always ask them like,

17:06

Oh, make it so that people can, I don't think that's

17:08

necessarily going to be able to happen. Cause this

17:12

isn't like, you probably can't like plug a USB

17:14

into this thing and like reprogram it. I

17:16

mean, easily. If it's, is it Android based?

17:19

Does anyone know? Cause if it is, then

17:21

you almost, I've never seen one. I

17:23

need it. So I could be wrong. You

17:25

a hundred percent can't. Okay. Well, then they should

17:27

do that. Yeah. I mean, and look, it's Linux

17:29

space. Why don't they

17:31

do that? Okay. People just do that anyway. Can I make

17:33

an argument? Hold on, hold on, hold

17:36

on. It's hackable. One second. I

17:38

know, but we're going to get there. We're going to get,

17:40

get, get, give me a second. All right. I can understand.

17:42

I was hanging out with, I was having a good time.

17:44

I know that. I know. That's why I took it away.

17:48

I just hate seeing joy on this. I, I

17:54

can understand why they might not necessarily

17:57

be able to do that. There may

17:59

be intellectual property concerns

18:01

in the code, right? Oh,

18:04

yeah. Okay. There could be. There

18:06

could be. However, I think

18:10

at the very least, some

18:13

kind of nudge-nudge or

18:17

facilitation for

18:19

the open source community to take

18:21

it over is in order here. I

18:23

understand why legal might not have

18:26

allowed it, but I hate this. This

18:28

is such a terrible precedent.

18:31

It's such a terrible way of behaving as

18:33

a company that it almost doesn't really matter

18:36

what the legal advice was. You've got to find a way

18:38

to do the right thing. Yeah.

18:41

And the right thing is obviously

18:43

to make it able to

18:45

continue to work. Yeah. And the

18:47

very, very least they could have done is to

18:49

not actively brick it. So apparently people have already

18:51

done a USB unlock of it. There's already a

18:53

jailbreak. Yes. What I think would

18:56

be pretty

18:59

sick, in my opinion. There's apparently a

19:01

subreddit already. I love it. Carthinghacks.

19:03

Nice. What I think

19:06

would be pretty sick is if they gave some

19:08

Spotify developer time to the

19:10

open source project. I think

19:12

that would be such, even if they're

19:14

still going to shut it down in December or

19:16

whatever, I think

19:18

that would be such a good faith,

19:22

good guy move that people would be

19:24

willing to look past a lot

19:26

of the crappiness of this situation overall. Yeah, because

19:28

it's not great. It hasn't been conducted great so

19:30

far. And they can't commit. I'm just going

19:33

to defend them slightly. They can't commit to

19:35

this forever. No, you can't support something forever.

19:37

But if they're like, all right. And that's

19:39

the problem with smart devices. That's why I

19:41

didn't buy that floor cleaning robot. Yeah. Because

19:45

I told you about that conversation, right? Where I

19:47

was like, okay, but like... What happens if you

19:49

go bankrupt? Does it operate without your cloud thing?

19:51

And they're like, well, Yeah, it's

19:53

not going to go away. I'm like, right. But If

19:55

it does, what happens? Is It a brick? Well, yeah,

19:57

but we're doing great. We're not going to go away.

20:00

You fucking idiot. By

20:03

a little illegal immigrants. eighteen thousand dollars or

20:05

something. They are more than that kind of

20:07

money on something. The just turns off a

20:09

lot of things like that like infrastructure like

20:11

that is gonna be in deployment for the

20:14

entire existence of that build a i suspect

20:16

that robot to work for twenty five years?

20:18

I don't think. I don't know. Even if

20:20

somebody has to wonder you to get acquired

20:22

by someone who doesn't get to sits above

20:25

for cleaning robots. Maybe they want to use

20:27

your your automatic firing technology her military application

20:29

or something. Else here but my stupid

20:31

badminton buildings yes he later he never

20:33

know if don't know yeah. But

20:36

so the i think I think that

20:38

would us to be very cool is

20:40

this spot. If I sorted Roper's spotify

20:43

software engineers were given a little bit

20:45

of time. It has to be

20:47

limited, is on a bill to be a

20:49

thunder discontinuous for reasons, but it is not

20:51

a decent amount of time enough time to

20:53

make a really solid. Ah

20:56

contribution to the open source projects.

20:58

Don't take it over. Don't

21:01

have anyone become leads on it or anything, but

21:03

try to contribute. Really have leads to a point

21:06

where the open source community is a pretty stoked

21:08

on it. And then just let them

21:10

have it. And lease. And

21:15

that's not like a. Happy.

21:17

Ending. But. It didn't need something.

21:20

L and a second device. And

21:24

him sooner than source that does exist. On

21:28

sister cysts. Ah

21:32

right. Oh man, what is our

21:34

next topic going to be? Imagine

21:36

a message and. The

21:40

fact that. This

21:42

is not a good sign. He's.

21:44

Never had this problem for been

21:46

cancelled in a while to. Be

21:50

like yeah, you know what? This is a

21:52

good enough I be sensitive priests contributing toed

21:54

boots. matter

21:57

like having that Open

22:03

source, open legs. I need some people to test

22:05

this one. You gotta push the contributing code,

22:07

then you gotta pull it. I'm

22:10

on the alpha version of the new thing.

22:13

I need a really action on

22:16

12.0. Works

22:18

with Android 15. Oh

22:21

man. Alrighty, you wanna pick our

22:23

next topic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we do

22:25

our new channel? Yeah, actually.

22:29

I wanna see, cause I think a lot of

22:31

people don't know that it's live, I wanna see

22:33

comments live of what people think of

22:36

the voice and stuff, cause it's a relatively short video

22:38

so people could go watch it. No, we're gonna watch

22:40

it. I mean, it's on our own video. Yeah, we

22:42

can react to our own video, dang it. We can

22:44

do that? We can do that. It's the internet? It's

22:47

online, it's brought to you by

22:49

Secret Lab. Yeah,

22:52

there's their logo. Sure, whatever. That

22:55

one's not even legible. Oh, my heart's a real... Yeah. Luke,

22:58

oh. What a guy. It's obviously

23:00

my fault. Alright,

23:03

I've got it loaded up. Dan, are they able to

23:05

hear? If I do stuff, why don't

23:07

I do a couple pings? You can make sure my

23:09

audio's working. Yep, I can see that coming through. It's

23:11

here, folks. I'm just gonna play it for you, we're

23:13

gonna watch it together, and we're gonna talk about how

23:16

it came to be. Can we

23:18

hear that's the question? Ah,

23:20

I mean, Luke and I have listened to it, but I'm

23:22

sure whatever. Hopefully we can, but yeah. Yeah,

23:24

it'd be nice. I'll see what I can do.

23:26

Okay. I hear it now. Alright.

23:30

Linus lap. That's

23:32

what the button says. Okay. What?

23:36

It's a fully modular ATX powered

23:39

by with a single fan mode. The power supply

23:41

comes in reasonable packaging and measures 150 by 86

23:43

by 140 millimeters. Considering

23:48

cable flexibility, it has an effective depth

23:50

of 175 millimeters. The

23:53

Corsair RN750E is accompanied by the accessories

23:55

as shown and supported by a seven

23:57

year warranty. This warranty period is as

24:00

expected for a power supply of

24:02

this class. The fully modular cables

24:04

are of acceptable quality. They have

24:07

plastic insulation and are moderately flexible.

24:09

The provided cable set includes a

24:11

single 12V high power cable, allowing

24:13

it to power all types of

24:15

high-wattage GPUs. LTT Labs conducted

24:18

all of the following testing at an

24:20

ambient temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. The

24:22

full test suite, including tests at extended

24:25

temperature ranges, is available on the Labs

24:27

website linked in the description. But before

24:29

we get to the results, here's a

24:32

message from our sponsor. The Corsair RM750E

24:34

carries an 80-plus gold rating, and we

24:36

measure 90% efficiency at 50% of

24:40

its maximum rated load. That's equivalent to

24:42

power supplies in a similar class. Throughout

24:45

the full rated output power range of 750 watts, there was a 0.162V

24:47

drop on the 12V

24:52

rail, which is within ATX specifications

24:54

and similar to most other power

24:56

supplies we've tested. Most of

24:59

the output rails met ATX specifications. This

25:01

stability should provide a steady platform for

25:03

the operation of other components in the

25:05

computer. The peak-to-peak signal ripple

25:07

of the fully loaded power supplies 12V

25:10

rail was averaged for its price and

25:12

wattage at 31mV. The

25:14

5V and 3.3V rails had signal ripple of 17mV and 21mV respectively.

25:22

Modern power supplies typically have no

25:24

issue complying with ATX ripple stacks,

25:26

and this unit is no different.

25:28

We test the power supplies resilience

25:31

to momentary power dropouts and ripples

25:33

using our brownout test that interrupts

25:35

the input power for a few

25:37

milliseconds. This allows us to measure

25:39

how long of a power dropout

25:41

the sample can sustain without interrupting

25:43

the output power. The Corsair RM750E

25:46

was measured to withstand 13ms and 14ms dropout at

25:48

full rated load for 115V

25:52

and 230V inputs respectively. This

25:56

unit performs similarly to other power

25:58

supplies. The Excursion test momentarily

26:00

applies up to 200% of

26:02

the rated load to test

26:04

a power supply's ability to

26:06

support components that may temporarily

26:08

require more than their rated

26:10

current. The Corsair RM750E withstood

26:12

a subset of the excursions

26:14

but failed with others. It's

26:16

compatible with most systems but

26:18

may struggle with high-end hardware

26:21

connecting. The Corsair RM750E is

26:23

equipped with the protection as listed, providing

26:25

the full suite of protections for you

26:27

and your equipment. We measured the over

26:29

power protection to engage at a maximum of 131% of

26:31

rated load while

26:34

the 12-volt rail alone is capable of 81 amps, 130% of

26:36

its rating. This

26:40

is equivalent to similarly rated power

26:42

supplies offering good protection against component

26:44

faults while also allowing the power

26:46

drop to slightly exceed the official rating.

26:48

We can recommend the Corsair RM750E because

26:50

of its good load and line regulation

26:52

and resilience to cross loads. For full

26:55

specifications and test results, follow the link

26:57

to the product page on the LTT

26:59

Labs website. All right. So

27:02

let's talk about it. I jotted

27:04

down some notes from chat while we were going. So

27:08

a couple of these I think I

27:10

can just answer immediately. A couple of these maybe become discussion.

27:13

One of them is voice too slow. In

27:15

that case, in my opinion, just adjust the

27:18

video playback speed. You know,

27:20

it's funny because I actually saw some comments

27:22

saying that it was too fast on

27:24

full plane. Adjust the video playback speed. Yeah,

27:28

like not too fast. Someone said that normally

27:30

they watch at one and a half speed

27:32

and they had to slow this one down

27:34

to 1x. Interesting. So it's going to depend

27:36

on your familiarity with the subject material, I

27:38

think. I suspect people are saying like the

27:40

voice cadence is off and stuff. That'll improve

27:42

over time. Considering

27:45

where we started. It's way better.

27:47

The first time we previewed this was

27:49

probably about three or

27:51

four months ago, something like that. Man,

27:56

this is a big improvement. It will consistently improve.

28:00

that I saw were like it's not taking

28:02

like breaks to breathe. I mean

28:05

it doesn't breathe so that

28:07

makes sense. I heard a breath though. I heard it

28:09

take a breath. Did you really? It's just meditating. It

28:11

doesn't like pause. Like

28:13

there's the sentence pauses or not. Yeah it doesn't run

28:15

out of air. Yeah. I noticed

28:18

that as well. Yeah so like stuff

28:20

like that will be improved over time.

28:22

Yep. Someone said I'd stop watching. That's

28:24

completely fine. Yeah. One of the reasons

28:27

why people have been asking why we

28:29

chose AI voice for this because

28:31

these aren't gonna make like any money at all

28:35

and there's like. Well it's not just

28:37

that. These are not gonna get any views. Which

28:40

is why that's going to be a thing.

28:42

Which is why they're not gonna drive any

28:44

revenue. And I suspect watch time isn't necessarily

28:46

gonna be amazing stuff like that. There's comments

28:48

like I'd stop watching not enough emotion stuff

28:50

like that. It's not supposed to be hyped

28:52

up really exciting

28:55

interesting content to watch. It's supposed to be like

28:57

I am interested in

28:59

purchasing this product. I

29:01

would like a very on-the-point

29:04

information heavy cookie

29:06

cutter video. Third-party

29:08

validated. Give

29:11

me the information and then if you're interested in diving

29:13

into more because you saw one part that you found

29:15

is interesting then you can jump to the labs website

29:17

and get more info there. It's not it's that I

29:20

don't suspect unless you're like oh I really

29:22

just freaking love power supplies dude.

29:26

I don't expect you're gonna watch every video on this channel. I

29:28

suspect the subscriber conversion for a channel like this

29:30

is not gonna be super high. But

29:34

if this was back in the day and I was building

29:36

computers this is the exact type of stuff I would have

29:38

tried to find. Because this is why I would look at

29:40

content on YouTube was because I wanted to see video

29:43

of the thing out of the box. That

29:46

was like a hundred percent what I was looking for. I

29:48

didn't care about the unboxing experience. I wanted to see the

29:50

thing after it was out of the box and

29:52

to verify some assumptions I was making. And there's

29:54

gonna be people that are gonna watch a lot

29:57

of videos on the channel. Sure. But they're not

29:59

gonna subscribe for entertainment. unless maybe they work in

30:01

the industry. Like if my

30:03

job was procurement at a system integrator

30:07

and I was just like, oh, well, this is

30:09

convenient. If these guys are just gonna test every

30:11

power supply and I can just get a notification

30:13

on my phone so I can make sure that

30:15

I'm keeping up with what's good because it's like

30:17

my job, absolutely, I

30:19

could see someone subscribing, but for the average

30:21

builder who's putting together a system for their

30:25

roommate this quarter and doing

30:27

something for their sister for six months

30:29

later. You're not gonna subscribe to it,

30:31

but it's very likely you'll watch one

30:33

of them. Or you know what, we

30:35

haven't given much thought to playlists, I

30:37

guess. It just popped into

30:39

my head. Maybe, maybe, Jake Belvance is

30:42

the channel manager for this. But I don't

30:44

think we've given a ton of thought to

30:46

that yet. But something that would

30:48

be cool is if we had playlists that

30:50

are at various wattage ranges or

30:53

playlists that are at various price points. Price points

30:55

will be tough because they're gonna change. So unless

30:57

we had a way to, unless

31:00

there's a way to hook into YouTube's API

31:02

and manage your playlists automatically or something like

31:04

that based on pooling real-time pricing information or

31:07

something, I don't think we'll be able to

31:09

do by price. But if we could do

31:11

it by wattage range, for example, then

31:13

that would be a really cool way to go through

31:15

the channel and basically go, okay, out of 500 watt

31:17

power supplies, okay, I wanna learn about some of these.

31:19

Of course, I understand.

31:22

And this is a comment that I saw,

31:24

I guess it was over on floatplane, where

31:28

someone was like, this doesn't seem, or maybe it's

31:30

on Twitter, this doesn't

31:32

seem to add a lot compared to reading an

31:34

article. You

31:37

are right. The correct

31:39

format for a power supply

31:41

one pager is

31:43

a page, not a video. But

31:46

what we have to recognize is

31:49

the realities that

31:51

exist in the tech sphere, in

31:53

the media sphere, that

31:56

have made it so that this abomination is

31:58

now how you will find out. about

32:01

the testing data of a power supply.

32:04

Viewer habits have changed to video. The

32:07

money that used to be in written media is

32:10

functionally gone compared to how it

32:13

was in the early to mid

32:15

to even late 2000s. People will

32:17

not read something. People will not

32:20

read something. And even if they

32:22

did, that site that writes

32:24

that thing that no one's reading would

32:26

have an extremely

32:29

difficult time surviving. So

32:32

the equipment that's involved in this and

32:34

the personnel that's involved in this is

32:38

so expensive. I just don't see a path

32:40

where you could do this testing in a

32:42

written format, unless it was, like

32:46

to my point earlier about being very interesting to

32:48

people who are in the industry, unless it was

32:50

like a paid subscription or something like that. But

32:52

that's not where we wanna go, at

32:54

least with the basics of is this thing okay

32:56

to buy? What kind

32:58

of computer can it power? What kind of,

33:00

do its safety protections actually work? Like that's

33:02

not something that we want to paywall. I

33:06

do think that there could be more detailed

33:08

testing data that might only really be useful

33:10

to people who are going, okay, can

33:13

we procure thousands

33:16

of these for our systems for next quarter or

33:18

something like that? And okay, an

33:20

example of that. I have an

33:22

extremely particular type of load that I need to

33:24

put on this. Sure. In the

33:26

long term, I can see us scaling up the

33:29

number of those chroma testing units that we have

33:31

and we could go, okay, yeah, I mean, or

33:34

even do like paid testing. Yeah, we'll test

33:36

10 instead of just one.

33:38

We'll test 10, we'll run your suite on it,

33:40

whatever. Yeah, or whatever the case may be. So

33:43

in the long term, there's all kinds of

33:45

different directions that we can go with it.

33:47

But the reality is, if we want this

33:49

content to exist, we've got to

33:51

go where the reader is. And

33:54

the reader is now watching in video form. So,

33:58

and how many people? people, that's a big

34:01

question mark, right? Is one of the answers

34:03

we were trying to find when we were

34:05

working on the concept for this channel because

34:08

this channel exists because we want to make

34:10

it. We want this information to be available.

34:12

But one of the things that we had to figure

34:14

out is, okay, how do we make this self-sufficient? The

34:17

question wasn't even how do we make money. The

34:20

question was, how do we make this make any

34:22

sense? Because don't

34:25

kid yourself. This is a creative company.

34:27

We're a media organization. If you don't

34:29

think that there were some misgivings internally

34:32

around AI voice, for

34:34

example. Come on, guys. There

34:37

were absolutely misgivings, but the way that

34:40

we're looking at it and the way

34:42

that we've messaged it internally is, look,

34:44

this is not replacing human intervention. A

34:46

human developed this test suite and a

34:49

human needs to test this power supply.

34:52

By the time we do that, I'm sorry,

34:54

but there isn't for the

34:57

two to 4,000 views we're going to get

34:59

on this video, there just

35:01

isn't any budget for

35:04

the media side of things. In the long term,

35:06

I want that to change. I

35:08

would love for that to change. I would love for

35:10

every... Look, I would

35:12

love in the longer term for us to be able to count on 100,000

35:15

or 200,000 views per

35:17

video and for us to go, okay, let's scale

35:19

it up. Why are we doing this all

35:21

cookie cutter now that we've

35:23

got this momentum? I

35:26

don't know if it'll ever get there. It starts performing like that?

35:28

Sure. I don't see it happening,

35:31

personally. I see it happening

35:34

in spikes. I suspect if some

35:36

flagship GPU comes out and we

35:39

have a GPU equivalent of power supply

35:42

circuit, so I'm making multiple assumptions here,

35:45

it could be a banger. I think

35:48

the day-to-day releases of that channel are not

35:50

going to be able to... You might be

35:52

right. See, I'd be happy to be wrong.

35:55

But one of the tough

35:58

conversations that I had to have with someone... someone

36:00

who to their credit approached

36:03

me about it, approached

36:05

me with the concerns, right? Like that's what

36:07

we want. So they approached me with the

36:09

concerns and they basically went, look,

36:11

I have serious ethical concerns.

36:14

I have serious creative concerns.

36:17

I don't understand who this is for.

36:21

Help explain it to me. I

36:23

basically went, okay, here's the

36:25

situation. We went and we looked at

36:27

the very

36:30

few channels that are left that are

36:32

even trying to do dedicated videos on

36:34

power on an individual power supply skew.

36:38

We are expecting at the

36:40

very best, at the very,

36:42

very possible best, somewhere

36:45

in the neighborhood of like five to

36:47

10,000 views on

36:49

average for each of these videos. That

36:51

puts our budget somewhere in the neighborhood

36:53

of 10 to

36:56

$25. What

36:58

would you have me do? I

37:01

want people to have this information. I

37:04

need to get it to them in video. My

37:07

options are either that I outsource

37:09

to some place where I

37:11

can pay like slave labor wages,

37:14

which we have never done. And

37:16

I have never been comfortable

37:18

with. Or we pay

37:20

proper wages to the testers,

37:23

to the people who are working on creating

37:25

this data. We try to find

37:27

a way to scale that from 10 to

37:30

$25 to maybe we can scrape

37:32

together some affiliate revenue to

37:35

make sure that this is sustainable in that form.

37:37

And we lean on automated tools

37:39

as much as we have to, to

37:42

make this even remotely have a chance. And

37:46

they kind of went, well, I hope the voice

37:48

can be better. And at least it is

37:50

better than it was. It's a lot better

37:52

in my opinion. And I do, like I

37:54

said earlier, suspect there will be continual improvement

37:56

there. One thing that

37:58

I disliked a lot was when it was

38:00

your voice, when it was a modification of your

38:03

voice. Yep, I can see that. That was odd

38:05

for me. I didn't like that. So the funny

38:07

thing is, one of the reasons that we had

38:09

actually leaned that way initially was that there

38:11

seemed to be less community

38:14

backlash to cloning my

38:16

voice versus cloning a random one

38:18

because I don't know why,

38:20

but it seems like the perception was less

38:22

that we replaced a voice actor with

38:25

an AI and the perception was more

38:28

we are applying an

38:31

efficiency factor to Linus's time

38:34

by saving him the trouble of reading the lines. And

38:38

the distinction is arbitrary, but

38:41

that voice sounding like me made

38:43

it an extension of me

38:45

instead of... This whole landscape

38:47

is weird to navigate right now. Oh, I

38:49

know, right? It's true because

38:52

we're all figuring out how

38:54

we feel about these things and where the lines are

38:56

and stuff. And while that's

38:58

still happening, it's just a little

39:00

tricky, but I think this

39:02

is okay. And I like the idea of if the

39:04

channel does start performing well, we could get talent for

39:07

it or whatever. That's interesting. I do

39:09

suspect the quoted number of views that you

39:11

just said, I think some of the videos

39:13

on these channels are going to do a

39:15

lot worse than that. Oh yeah. And I

39:17

think some of the videos on these channels will smash that out

39:19

of the park. I think so too. I

39:22

think... It's going to be very up and

39:24

down, I think. Very inconsistent. Here's

39:26

something that I bet

39:29

you guys didn't necessarily realize is

39:31

the AI voice is not the only

39:34

automation tool that's being used for

39:36

these videos. I

39:39

feel like I knew that. A

39:41

human editor only watches the output. Of

39:47

the video? Yeah.

39:51

So the reason

39:53

the script is a little

39:55

bit formulaic sounding is because

39:57

it's actually a template. You're

40:00

doing the same shots. So are you are you

40:02

naming the files in a certain way? Is that

40:04

how it's doing it? So all the shots will

40:07

be the same all the

40:09

graphics will be the same with the

40:11

same names ish The

40:13

exact details of how it's done are gonna be Ed's

40:15

department not mine, right? but

40:17

then the the the

40:19

the little cut the little color commentary

40:21

because that was something we realized about the

40:24

first one that needed to be Fixed

40:26

it had no context. It was just like

40:29

The boat however point whatever millowripples like

40:31

it didn't it didn't sound like anything

40:33

if you don't already understand it Right.

40:35

Yeah, and so I was like, okay

40:37

look guys We have to come

40:39

up with a way to create

40:41

a script that allows for some

40:44

color commentary Or we

40:46

are gonna completely lose any chance we could

40:48

possibly have of people watching this thing and

40:50

learning anything So when it

40:52

says this is as expected

40:54

for power supplies of this class There's

40:58

basically variables. There's almost like a drop-down

41:00

box. This is worse than expected. This

41:02

is better than expected This is as

41:04

expected So when it did like the

41:07

cables are of acceptable bendiness or whatever

41:09

the cables are of exceptional bendiness the

41:11

cables are of subpar bendiness Compared

41:14

to our expectations and now a

41:16

human is involved in in bending

41:19

those cables and seeing okay Yeah,

41:21

we know the depth of the power supply But like

41:23

really what can you fit it because that was something

41:25

that I asked to be added Because the depth of

41:27

a power supply doesn't tell you what case it can

41:29

fit in you need to know once accounting for cable

41:31

Bendiness how deep it is, right? So

41:34

that was something that that's something that a

41:36

human needs to do. This is not AI

41:38

content This is highly human

41:40

created content that

41:43

is edited together and voiced

41:47

by automation tools It's

41:51

Something that I have no idea if it's gonna work

41:54

But Boy do I ever hope so given how much

41:56

we've invested in it because I Don't think the labs

41:58

website on its own is going. The have

42:00

a chance of agree to any

42:02

kind of break even point. It's

42:04

gotta be something that can be

42:06

funded by the other branches of

42:08

our company and that. Are

42:11

and and that will allow us to reinvest in it

42:13

and continue to build. We have some ideas to help

42:15

it. But it was kind of

42:17

struggle with. Him. Citing

42:22

right. One. Excited!

42:27

Oh right, we're supposed to emerge as

42:29

I'm excited to sell ya about those.

42:31

Ah, do we have any store updates

42:34

that we're supposed to talk about? I

42:36

haven't looked at that part of the

42:38

Oh oh yes we have a huge

42:40

promotion that we're running right now on

42:42

the L T T screwdriver. This applies

42:45

to any screwdriver. That's right, it's classic

42:47

colors, retro not you are or study

42:49

if you buy any Ltd screwdriver by

42:51

Ah oh really? by midnight today. While.

42:54

That's a really short Roth. Okay, you'll

42:56

be entered into draw to win either

42:58

a giant Ltd screwdriver. Check. That

43:00

out. Oh, that's from that

43:02

stream we did earlier this week. Or.

43:05

A twenty two hundred dollar gaming

43:07

Pc As soon on our Pc

43:10

building stream this last Wednesday for

43:12

the full detail, the legal insults

43:14

you gotta go to elsehesaw.com/products/screwdriver Ah

43:16

so. Anyway, or one

43:18

of the things that you can do if you

43:20

decide to order a screwdriver right now is you

43:22

can leave a merge message in the shopping cart.

43:25

We don't want to just take your money, just

43:27

you for your money, your screen and than what

43:29

we like. Acknowledge your comment na na na na

43:31

na. You should leave emerge message so you can

43:33

throw money at your screen and get great quality

43:35

merchandise. In the mail in the cart you'll

43:37

see a little box. Whenever realize to leave

43:39

emerged message it will go to Producer Dance

43:41

who will pop up on the bottom down

43:44

there like that reply to it, forward it

43:46

internally to someone who can best get you

43:48

an answer or. Presents

43:50

curated certain arts.

43:53

So. Mad at. The. buttons broken

43:55

down for sex or as an evil carried it

43:57

for me and luke to address on the show. Dan,

43:59

do you want to hit us with a merch message

44:01

to show the folks how it works? Sure, absolutely. Yeah,

44:04

we've got a few here. Let's see. Would

44:06

you make an Apple leather jacket? No.

44:11

So. Please

44:17

make a medium tall. I need to replace my leather jacket

44:19

so bad. No. Please.

44:24

You know how we did? We don't have a tall shirt yet, Dan. We're

44:26

losing this war. I don't care.

44:28

I will have them custom tailor me one.

44:32

You know how we did that mock neck? Yeah.

44:34

That we called the Steve, where it had the seam

44:36

down the middle, just like his iconic. Okay.

44:41

So I had. Oh no. I

44:44

had. The Jensen? The

44:46

Steve Apple? I had planned. So Matthew

44:49

from Creator Warehouse, his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade

44:52

is coming up. Okay. And I

44:54

don't know if it's going to make it into the cut

44:56

because it's sponsored by AMD. So who

44:58

knows what the... It

45:00

might not make it through our own internal business

45:02

team, you know, whatever. And it's

45:05

not like it matters in terms of

45:07

our editorial integrity if we can talk

45:10

about a future product or whatever. So

45:12

it's not the kind of thing, that's not the kind of hill we're going to die on.

45:15

So it might not make it through our internal team. It might not

45:17

make it through AMD. But one of

45:20

the things that happened in that video is

45:23

Matthew and I decided

45:25

to tease a potential upcoming product

45:27

called... The Jensen.

45:30

The Jensen. Because we wanted to do a leather jacket

45:32

for a while. I don't know what kind

45:34

of leather we'd use. We actually haven't gotten that far. But

45:36

one of the things we have decided is that the jacket

45:38

will be designed by AI. Because

45:42

of course it would. He's

45:47

already got some really great concepts.

45:49

So obviously, because, you know, we

45:51

have designers, we would make

45:53

it actually function in the real world. But

45:55

it would have like pockets that

45:57

don't open. Zippers

46:00

that don't go anywhere. At least it doesn't have

46:02

to do hands. You know AI things. The

46:05

AI jacket. The Jensen. Huh?

46:07

Dan? Dan? Huh? If

46:10

it's in a medium tall, I will buy two. Right?

46:13

I think that's sick. W-PAL-3-E-2 in

46:15

floatplane chat has

46:19

summarized my thoughts so far of that's

46:21

gonna be a really expensive joke. How

46:24

many do you think you're gonna sell? You're gonna

46:26

sell two today? It's gonna be a really expensive

46:29

joke. But he's gonna use his employee thing so

46:31

you'll make nothing. I'll pay out of pocket. I

46:33

don't care. Dude, I guarantee you. I guarantee you.

46:35

Okay guys, come on. Let's hear from you. Who

46:37

wants one? Dan? I think we

46:39

need to get a poll in here. Oh, yeah, right away.

46:41

Yeah Firefox. Let's get

46:44

that poll and besides and besides

46:46

if it doesn't sell. In the

46:48

de-Google-fire-life video, one of the

46:50

top comments was like along with all the floatplane users.

46:52

I am 70% of people that use Firefox or something

46:54

like that. I don't remember the exact sign and I

46:57

burst out laughing. I was like, ahh! But

47:00

think about it this way, Luke. Even if we don't

47:02

sell any of them infinite

47:04

money glitch, we just write them off. Alright,

47:12

we'll get that going. You mad? Are you

47:14

mad bro? I'm voting no.

47:16

Brother, are you angry? I do need

47:18

to replace this jacket though. Why?

47:21

Oh, I'm so excited. I can't find a

47:23

leather tailor to actually work on it. Really?

47:26

I'm looking. I'm trying to find an artist

47:28

collective around here that could recommend an artisan,

47:30

but it's very very difficult. I

47:32

know a person who works with leather goods

47:35

who lives on Vancouver Island because he

47:37

came to LTX.

47:39

Oh. Yeah, you're not talking

47:41

about that person, are you? Is

47:44

it someone I know? No. Okay, never mind. I

47:47

can't find any company that makes them anymore. Yeah,

47:52

well bummer for Dan. Yeah, so yeah, maybe

47:54

we'll get him a Jensen. Okay.

47:57

Where's our where's our please? pockets

48:00

that don't open and zippers that are to nothing?

48:03

Do you want that? Is that a good, is that

48:05

a, does that, does that? Clothes. Is that more interesting?

48:07

Clothes are supposed to be self-expression. Artistic

48:10

self-expression. And in this

48:12

case. I gotta remember this. The person who

48:14

has one brand of socks and one... Right.

48:16

I've been wearing one jacket for ten years.

48:18

No, one brand of T-shirts. Ten years I've

48:20

been wearing this jacket. In this case. I

48:22

haven't even changed my shoes in a decade.

48:24

In this case, the use... I have just

48:26

multiple pairs of the same one to be

48:28

clear. The use of AI actually makes sense.

48:30

It's so meta. Like, it's

48:32

an, it could be an ironic expression of like... It's

48:34

not, it's not meta. It's in video. Of like, hating

48:37

AI. It

48:39

needs a little pocket. Where's the ding? It

48:41

needs a pocket. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm

48:43

talking about. That's the first time I've had

48:45

to do that for Luke. He deserves it.

48:47

Disgusting. Disgusting. It

48:50

needs to have a pocket on the, on the, like, chest

48:53

for your humane pin. Yeah,

48:59

but it should be like the wrong size. Yeah,

49:01

yeah, yeah. Because AI has no concept of scale. It doesn't

49:03

fit. It doesn't fit. It

49:05

doesn't fit. Rabbit.

49:08

And then like a slop to the rabbit. Well, they could add

49:10

a rabbit leather. Ooh. 45,000

49:14

dollar jacket. That's a

49:16

lot of rabbits. Mood murdered. Yeah. Oh,

49:19

hey. It just be Android anyway. Sorry. Were we

49:21

supposed to be on a topic right now? Because

49:23

I actually wanted to come back to PSU circuit

49:25

a little bit. That was the second

49:28

merch message? That was one merch. Oh, that was one.

49:30

Okay. Hit me again and I'm just going to leave this page open

49:32

so I don't forget to talk. Okay, yeah, sure. Same

49:34

sort of thing. Curious about the

49:36

amount of stolen items found during tech upgrade

49:38

videos. Were the items actually considered stolen? Or

49:40

is this just a joke about the amount

49:42

of stuff employees take back with them? Both?

49:46

A little bit of both, I think. Yeah, both of them. Okay.

49:49

Sorry, I was eating jerky. Okay,

49:55

so part of it is... that

50:01

I was a little

50:04

bit legitimately annoyed in

50:06

some of the very early ones to

50:09

find work property in

50:11

people's homes. Nothing that

50:14

mattered in

50:17

the grand scheme of things. What were some of

50:19

those things? Like cables. Like

50:21

a cheap USB dock that

50:24

realistically we didn't pay for and

50:26

probably they intended to return at

50:28

some point because remember we started

50:30

this series when work from home

50:32

was a lot more common at

50:35

our company because of

50:37

all the COVID lockdowns and stuff right?

50:39

So people had a lot of stuff

50:41

at home that they

50:44

were probably going to return it but

50:46

it wasn't asset tagged

50:48

inventory so nothing would have prevented

50:51

them from just keeping

50:53

it and so it was this kind

50:56

of gray area where

50:58

it kind of started with me

51:01

being like hey come on man

51:03

and then obviously

51:05

I ended up with a lot of false

51:07

positives because legitimately people do end up with

51:10

a lot of stuff that used to belong

51:12

to the company. You know we got LTT

51:14

store? Well we also

51:16

have the LMG store which is where

51:18

people can sometimes get access to. A

51:22

unit that came in for

51:24

B-roll for a sponsor and ended up having cosmetic

51:26

damage and they were like well we don't want

51:28

it back and it goes in the giveaway pile.

51:30

We have a giveaway pile. We

51:33

also have wild Christmas parties

51:35

not in like a tech bro

51:37

Silicon Valley games industry kind of

51:40

way in like wow

51:42

I can't believe the giveaways that

51:45

they're have at this you

51:47

know two drink maximum otherwise

51:49

pretty you know controlled party.

51:52

So people end up with stuff from the Christmas

51:55

party. People end up with we have

51:57

done on occasion in the past. The

52:00

Christmas party is a lot of stuff. It's

52:02

hundreds of things every year. We have done on

52:04

occasion in the past extra credit things that people

52:06

can do for what we call LMG bucks.

52:08

I don't think we've done that in a long

52:11

time. But in the early days... I've never even

52:13

heard of that. Yeah. We

52:15

would have stuff that's like, this power supply has a broken

52:17

fan in it. Linus could open

52:20

it and put a new fan in. Or if

52:22

you wanted to just take

52:25

it home with you and put a new fan in it, then you

52:27

can have 50 LMG bucks or

52:29

something like that. And if you buy

52:31

stuff... That must have been when I was off float

52:33

plane. I've never heard of this. Almost no

52:35

one used it, but this is just an example of one of

52:37

the ways that people could have obtained stuff over the years. I

52:41

used to just get paid in hardware. I

52:43

mean, no. Not by me. Yes.

52:47

Well, popped up. You were above the

52:49

legal limit otherwise. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

52:52

You can't say stuff like that, Luke. People

52:55

are gonna... We

52:58

know how people are. It was fun.

53:00

Anyway. So LMG bucks, for

53:02

stuff that's in our inventory that's used, if

53:04

people want to buy it and we

53:07

don't need it, we don't charge full price for it.

53:09

So people can use LMG bucks to stretch a dollar

53:12

pretty far. Pretty dang far. People

53:14

use LMG bucks a lot. So people

53:16

have stuff that they've bought from work,

53:18

stuff that they have won from work,

53:21

stuff that they've taken home from work for

53:23

legitimate purposes. And in the case

53:25

of Dennis, stuff that they've just taken

53:28

because I don't know, he thinks he has tenure or something. I'm

53:30

not sure how that works in his head. So

53:33

it is a combination of things. And

53:36

like anything, it's been amusing for me to

53:38

see the community speculation around it because the

53:41

number of people that are outraged either

53:44

way is baffling.

53:47

The people that are outraged that

53:49

I am such a,

53:51

I don't know, overbearing,

53:53

horrible boss, that

53:55

I'm gonna be berating someone in public

53:58

over this cable that they... took is

54:02

probably about equal to the number of

54:04

people that hate me for being such

54:07

a disorganized corporate overlord that

54:09

I can't even inspire

54:12

my team in this horrible toxic work environment

54:14

to not be stealing anything that isn't bolted

54:16

down. It's amazing

54:19

how you can just take

54:21

a fucking joke that's just

54:23

a meme and interpret

54:25

it as a meme. I've

54:28

always wondered like if

54:30

we do one at my place what

54:33

stuff like what stuff will not be

54:36

stolen? I

54:38

because a lot of it like I don't even know. Like

54:43

I don't know. Well that's what asset tags are

54:45

for. Yeah but sometimes there's

54:47

asset tags on stuff that was given away. Really?

54:51

Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay

54:53

well we'll see I might remember. And then I think I

54:55

have like three generations. You know I personally select the items

54:57

for the giveaway every year right? Yeah yeah. So

55:00

I know. But there's three generations of

55:02

computers in my place that are

55:04

from my like weird upgrade thing that I have. Well

55:07

I guess we'll see. I like found

55:09

some graphics cards at my dad's place.

55:13

And I recognize them as work property.

55:15

Yeah. So I think we'll figure it

55:17

out. But I didn't even know. But I did. So

55:20

like it's yeah it might be

55:22

interesting. Guilty? I'm taking stuff

55:27

home. I don't anymore. But like I don't

55:29

know the line used to be a lot more blurry when there

55:32

was like three of us. It

55:34

used to be as simple as like hey

55:36

my GPU died. I want a game this

55:39

weekend and I like don't want

55:41

to go to the store. Yeah. Can

55:43

I borrow a GPU and it'd be like yeah I

55:45

don't take one of the ones we need for this

55:47

review on Tuesday. Yeah I need these ones. It's like

55:49

okay I'll grab some other ones. Yeah it used to

55:51

be pretty loosey. It was pretty fluid. But that was

55:53

that was a really. So the stuff that I have

55:55

is going to be like ancient. I would say these

55:57

days the vast majority of what I'm meaning on on

55:59

camera. I am memeing on. Yeah. It's

56:03

mostly the yeah, it's mostly gonna be the really

56:05

old stuff This

56:08

is why Luke hasn't gotten an upgrade yet says Bell in

56:10

the chat. Yeah, I love it every day Sorry,

56:19

um, right so I had wanted to come back to the

56:21

labs website for a second here Because

56:23

we also have the written version. Yeah

56:25

that video Yeah, which I didn't mention

56:27

before so, you know, that's pretty cool

56:31

but it's just like we want to make

56:33

it so that this work that we're doing is

56:37

digestible easily by as many people as

56:39

possible so we have the written version which is

56:41

as Deep as it's

56:43

gonna get basically and then there's

56:45

also the video version for people that don't

56:47

like reading stuff Yeah, depending

56:50

on you know, what part of the world

56:52

you live in you might be more interested in 115 volt versus 230

56:55

volt Poxication productivity

56:57

might also be easier for you to just

56:59

like Google translate the labs website Yeah,

57:02

that way. Yeah, exactly. So we got that there

57:04

and then this is really cool They also did

57:06

that that an aunt aunt aunt aunt

57:09

and this is co-authored by

57:11

oni our test technician and

57:14

Lucas who is our power supply wizard

57:19

That is to help you power

57:21

up your knowledge and it's basically

57:23

a how to how to watch

57:26

how to read Cool,

57:28

right where they go through our graphing formats

57:30

kind of explain why we've laid

57:32

them out the way that we have how to interpret

57:34

them What matters what doesn't

57:37

this old man? This was This

57:40

was an entire probably half an hour to 45 minutes

57:42

of a meeting this this

57:46

graph and Breaking the sine wave

57:49

and the interruption during the brown out

57:51

off onto this separate graph and

57:55

I got to make one of my best jokes ever in a

57:57

meeting that I think I already alluded to on WAN show before

58:00

So I won't make the best of you suffer. Yeah, I thought

58:02

that was wrong. Hold on one second I think I think you

58:04

slipped on his title is

58:06

senior content writer net technician. Oh Sorry,

58:09

sorry, sorry write it right or right. Yep. Thank you. Thank

58:11

you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry Sorry, he was

58:13

just focusing on the next thing he was gonna say Sorry,

58:18

honey, yeah and do

58:20

your GPU that you got consolation

58:22

prize something She

58:25

was in a video. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, yeah,

58:27

yeah. No, I thought it was a

58:30

pretty sick Anywho,

58:34

so yeah, there was that there was a lot

58:36

of debate about this graph And

58:40

like, you know how to make it more readable So

58:42

yeah, we gave a lot of thought to it And

58:44

if you guys want to know what the thinking was

58:46

and how to interpret it This is a really great

58:48

primer on how to understand if a

58:50

power supply is any good Very

58:54

exciting. Okay. What do you want to talk about next? We're

58:58

off Merch messages, right? We're

59:00

doing other topics. I want to talk

59:02

about the paper set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

59:04

I want to talk about I just

59:06

read What's on the prompter? Fuck you,

59:08

San Diego the arm windows revolution might

59:10

compact with a privacy nightmare. Oh, I

59:13

know right Okay. All right do

59:15

this. So this was the topic that hit me

59:17

this week I dove into this a little bit,

59:19

but I'm gonna read these notes first and then

59:21

I'll tangent into whatever I'm thinking of This

59:23

week Microsoft officially unveiled its new

59:26

lineup of laptops featuring Qualcomm's 12

59:28

core Snapdragon X Elite and 10

59:32

core Snapdragon X plus chips

59:35

All of which are based on arm. That's like the

59:37

big drop here These laptops

59:39

reportedly have a battery life of

59:41

17 to 20 hours and several

59:44

apparently outperform an M3

59:46

MacBook Air a sorry,

59:48

Suse Dell HP in spiron. I thought

59:50

it was HP in spiron It's

59:53

in spiron a different brand in spiron is

59:56

a Dell brand. So I don't know don't worry about

59:58

it Samsung and Lenovo have

1:00:00

likewise announced new Snapdragon powered laptops,

1:00:02

laptop lineups as well. These

1:00:08

laptops will launch with native

1:00:10

ARM versions of Adobe Photoshop,

1:00:13

Lightroom, Firefly and Express. It's

1:00:16

an interesting setup to not

1:00:18

have Premiere, but it does say

1:00:20

with Premiere and Illustrator coming later

1:00:22

in the summer. Microsoft is no

1:00:25

longer calling these AI PCs, instead

1:00:27

calling them Co-Pilot Plus PCs. Which

1:00:30

really makes me think of GNU

1:00:32

Plus Linux, but anyways. The

1:00:35

company is heavily emphasizing their AI

1:00:38

capabilities, including uncontroversial features like AI

1:00:40

upscaling, but also a recall feature.

1:00:48

This is the one that stood out

1:00:50

to me that has raised some concerns

1:00:52

among privacy advocates. Recall

1:00:57

gives Co-Pilot a kind of literal

1:00:59

photographic memory by taking

1:01:01

an automatic screenshot every

1:01:03

three seconds. This would

1:01:06

store around three months of a

1:01:08

user's recent activity by default. According

1:01:10

to Microsoft, the feature can be

1:01:12

turned on or off and

1:01:14

these snapshots, which the vast majority of

1:01:16

Windows users will never turn it off, because

1:01:19

the vast majority of Windows users never go into

1:01:21

settings and change anything. So keep that in mind.

1:01:24

So you might, most people won't. These

1:01:28

snapshots are encrypted and stored locally

1:01:30

and may be deleted at any

1:01:32

time. Further, users can create blacklists

1:01:34

that prevent recall from taking screenshots

1:01:37

when certain apps or websites are

1:01:39

open. Likewise, these

1:01:41

images are tied to specific user

1:01:43

profiles on the device. Critics,

1:01:46

however, have expressed concern

1:01:48

that the feature could still wind

1:01:50

up capturing sensitive information because of

1:01:53

Coors or

1:02:00

uses a public device with this feature

1:02:02

enabled. The UK's Information

1:02:04

Commissioner's Office has announced that

1:02:06

it will be making inquiries

1:02:08

into potential security issues posed

1:02:10

by the feature. I

1:02:13

mean, this is one of those topics

1:02:16

where we read the thing and then I think

1:02:18

we basically go, that's bad.

1:02:20

Yeah. Yeah.

1:02:23

Yeah. Elijah

1:02:27

in chat, who I don't like

1:02:29

acknowledging because he's supposed to be working, but it's

1:02:31

after hours, so I guess it's fine. Elijah says

1:02:34

for his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade, which by

1:02:36

the way is coming, oh, he's

1:02:39

gonna switch to Linux over

1:02:42

this feature. Oh. And

1:02:45

you know what? Oh, the base. I don't even blame

1:02:47

him. Base. Even though you can turn it off,

1:02:49

it's like, yeah, you can turn it off now. And

1:02:51

then Windows will update and it'll turn it back on and

1:02:53

it won't tell you. And

1:02:56

we've seen it time and time and time and time again. And

1:02:59

you know what? I think with, man,

1:03:01

with the way that things are developing

1:03:03

right now. Man, that's so based.

1:03:06

On game compatibility on

1:03:08

Linux. My understanding,

1:03:10

and I haven't talked to Emily about

1:03:12

this much, but I have a little

1:03:14

bit because she's been pushing me to

1:03:16

do another SteamOS gaming check-in, or not

1:03:18

SteamOS, gaming on Linux check-in. Okay.

1:03:20

Because it's been a little while. And I kept saying,

1:03:22

look, I wanna do it when SteamOS gets released broadly

1:03:24

and she's all like, yeah, but like, is that ever

1:03:26

gonna happen? I've been like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:03:28

yeah. Now I'm not, I don't know, who knows? Good

1:03:30

question. Yeah, it's a good question. So anyway, we're gonna

1:03:32

do it. But

1:03:35

from that conversation, she was basically saying,

1:03:37

yeah, and Nvidia driver support is looking

1:03:39

like it's gonna get a

1:03:41

lot better, like soon, like they care. Dude,

1:03:47

like is Linux going

1:03:49

to be the gaming

1:03:51

operating system? Wait. And

1:03:55

Windows becomes the like, or like

1:03:57

is Linux gonna be the like

1:03:59

the X80. gaming operating system

1:04:01

and his windows, I mean, looking

1:04:03

how hard Microsoft is pushing,

1:04:05

are they going to become like

1:04:07

the arm, the arm productivity, you

1:04:10

know, operating system, the mobile, like

1:04:12

laptop only operating system. Or computers.

1:04:15

And here's what's really confusing to me about this

1:04:18

is why is Microsoft so focused

1:04:20

on beating the MacBook? Oh,

1:04:22

dude, doesn't this- What the f*** is Apple's market

1:04:25

share even? This interview opens with him talking to

1:04:27

Apple. I know! I know!

1:04:29

It's like the line, it mentions Apple

1:04:31

directly. It's weird. But

1:04:33

here's the thing. This

1:04:38

is Apple's market share according to

1:04:40

Statista. Yeah.

1:04:44

It's like, what's the- what

1:04:46

are you doing? So f***ing what? It's

1:04:50

like Intel at the

1:04:52

prime of their market share, which

1:04:55

was not that long ago. They Intel at the height,

1:04:57

the prime of their market share, opening

1:04:59

a new feature talk by naming

1:05:01

AMD. Why? Like, what are you

1:05:03

doing? You already dominate. It's

1:05:05

weird. I don't know, man. And

1:05:08

I like- Yeah. Dude. Oh,

1:05:17

apparently this is- this is in the United States

1:05:19

too. So that's going to be way higher

1:05:22

than it is worldwide. Yeah, 100%. I

1:05:25

get it. Their competition

1:05:27

or whatever else. But

1:05:30

at the end of the day, you're kind

1:05:32

of chasing this minority

1:05:37

shareholder or not

1:05:39

shareholder, but

1:05:42

a holder of market share. I

1:05:46

don't know. And you know what? Look, it's capitalism,

1:05:48

baby. You got to grow. And

1:05:51

taking some of Apple, like taking 10% like this

1:05:53

is the thing. If

1:05:56

they can take 10% of the sales that

1:05:58

would have been a MacBook. Okay, they grow

1:06:00

their market share in the US by 1.6%. And

1:06:04

I get it, you gotta show growth. But

1:06:07

do you even think that this is the

1:06:09

solution to that? Because I don't know. I

1:06:11

think the solution to that is making really

1:06:14

good AI stuff that works better on our

1:06:16

processes, convincing people to upgrade. Because people have,

1:06:19

we know that from the COVID era, people

1:06:21

bought a bunch of stuff and they don't

1:06:23

need to upgrade it, because there's no point.

1:06:25

Here comes the hot take. But make things

1:06:27

that are worth upgrading your hardware for. You

1:06:30

know what I think is happening right now?

1:06:32

I think that Microsoft is contributing to a

1:06:34

significant improvement in Qualcomm Mindshare among

1:06:36

computer buyers that is ultimately going to

1:06:38

be exploited by Google. You

1:06:42

ready for this? You're falling back on your

1:06:44

Chromebook thing. Chromebooks. If

1:06:46

you wanted a machine where battery

1:06:48

life was of the utmost importance, are

1:06:50

you gonna be running Windows anyway? No.

1:06:54

Chrome OS supports

1:06:57

Linux applications now. Chrome OS

1:06:59

supports Steam. Gaming

1:07:02

on Linux is getting better. All of

1:07:04

these things are happening right now.

1:07:06

So is Emily saying that there has been, because

1:07:09

I have it looked. So this is not me

1:07:11

countering to be super, super clear before it, because

1:07:13

you know the Linux people can get a little

1:07:15

defensive sometimes. I'm not relaxed. Is

1:07:17

Emily saying that there's been significant steps since

1:07:19

we did our challenge? Yeah. Because

1:07:23

I would love to switch. I

1:07:26

would love to switch. It just

1:07:28

wasn't quite there. If

1:07:31

it's there, I'm gone. Because

1:07:34

honestly, I don't mind Windows at all. I actually kind of

1:07:36

like Windows 11 in a lot of different ways. And I

1:07:38

know people hate Windows 11. I don't care, I enjoy it.

1:07:40

The things that I don't like are

1:07:43

this snapshot thing. Them, when you update

1:07:45

Windows, them overriding some of your settings

1:07:47

and changing things. Forcing ads into my

1:07:50

operating system, go away. And then making

1:07:52

search just the worst thing in the

1:07:54

world. Those things are the

1:07:56

only things I actually dislike. A lot of what

1:07:58

Windows done. Search is the worst

1:08:01

thing in the world. All right, maybe exaggerate

1:08:03

a little bit. But the ads is too

1:08:05

far. This snapshot thing, which you know it's

1:08:07

going to turn itself back on, is too

1:08:09

far. And the search being

1:08:11

trash and constantly searching the internet when I want it

1:08:13

to search local. And even when you

1:08:15

tell it to only search local, now it just can't

1:08:17

find things. Which

1:08:20

is crazy. There's

1:08:22

no reason for that. So yeah, I'd

1:08:24

love to bail out. I really like

1:08:26

mint, actually. I like using mint. My

1:08:28

biggest problem is constantly jumping

1:08:30

back and forth for applications,

1:08:34

mostly games. Some applications is

1:08:37

just really annoying. I

1:08:39

want an operating system that can do my stuff. I'm

1:08:43

excited. I

1:08:46

think the age of the Chromebook

1:08:48

is dawning. You're excited about Chromebook.

1:08:51

Well, it's Linux. It's

1:08:53

kind of cut down sh-t, Linux. So

1:08:55

you think by Chromebook taking over, Linux

1:08:57

will become stronger because of more contribution?

1:08:59

Look at the trajectory of Chrome OS.

1:09:02

Chrome OS started super, super

1:09:04

locked down. Basically only ran

1:09:06

Chrome. It started out with

1:09:09

all the devices having completely locked down

1:09:11

firmware. So you couldn't even install a

1:09:13

different operating system if you wanted to.

1:09:16

Now you can run Android apps on

1:09:18

it. You can run

1:09:20

Linux apps on it. I

1:09:23

believe some of them allow

1:09:25

alternate operating system installs

1:09:31

by default. Don't quote me on that last one. We

1:09:33

did a video on this recently. So it's

1:09:36

kind of in my brain, but has fallen out a little bit.

1:09:43

I think that if Google is smart, this

1:09:47

is their opportunity. Kids grow up using Chrome

1:09:49

OS. Millions and

1:09:51

millions and millions of kids grow

1:09:53

up using Chrome OS. And

1:09:55

so all Chrome OS has to

1:09:57

do is keep getting a little more.

1:10:00

more functional. Now, Google

1:10:02

is also a tech giant like Microsoft

1:10:04

and is absolutely capable of succumbing to

1:10:06

the same hubris as Microsoft and just

1:10:08

screwing up Chrome OS and making it

1:10:11

so bad that we couldn't possibly switch

1:10:13

to it. But no,

1:10:15

I absolutely do believe that

1:10:17

Linux is the beneficiary of

1:10:19

Chrome OS, gaining more

1:10:21

popularity. And Chrome OS stands to

1:10:24

be a beneficiary of Linux gaining

1:10:27

better support and gaining better

1:10:29

access to applications people want to run.

1:10:31

Yeah, 100%. One thing that's

1:10:33

interesting is as based

1:10:35

as Elijah's move is and

1:10:38

as much as if significant improvements have

1:10:40

been made, I would yet again be

1:10:42

happy to consider it at least. I

1:10:45

don't think most gamers are going to care. What

1:10:48

about productivity? I

1:10:50

think workplaces are going to stay on Windows for

1:10:52

the foreseeable future. That's my problem, yeah. We

1:10:57

can't run WAN show on Linux, unfortunately.

1:10:59

Yeah. What doesn't

1:11:02

work? OK, so that's an interesting

1:11:04

one. Handyman in flow playing chat

1:11:06

linked me something that is pretty cool, which is worksonwoa.com.

1:11:12

And then in this particular instance slash games.

1:11:16

I go to my laptop. You can search

1:11:18

the games that will work on

1:11:20

Windows. I think it's 100 Asian cats. I

1:11:22

have no idea. Some game. OK. I

1:11:25

know the north analog. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I

1:11:27

like that. So like some of these,

1:11:31

you see the amount of games on Steam. There's going to be

1:11:33

some weird names. I'm not talking

1:11:35

about the, there's seven ways to die. I don't know. It's

1:11:39

a game. I

1:11:43

haven't heard of a lot of these, but

1:11:45

it is what it is. But yeah, there's

1:11:47

already sites popping up like this. What's the home

1:11:49

page? What else is on here? Oh, just

1:11:51

games. Cool. Can

1:11:54

you sort by category popular, like games you've

1:11:56

heard of? Is that a thing? Or OK.

1:12:02

Looks pretty bare bones for now, but in the

1:12:04

long term. There's 1,348 results. I'm

1:12:08

expecting they're not all tagged properly. That makes

1:12:10

sense. So the category stuff is

1:12:13

probably not working great. Interesting

1:12:15

site. What do you want to search for? How

1:12:19

about that? Let's go with Dark

1:12:21

Souls. Cool.

1:12:27

Cool. Hmm.

1:12:34

Close. It got rain. I mean,

1:12:37

it's better than Windows Search. It's just extremely fuzzy,

1:12:39

fuzzy search. It's

1:12:42

comfy blanket search. Yeah, I don't know.

1:12:45

That's neat. But it's

1:12:48

coming along. I just... I

1:12:53

don't like this. I

1:12:56

care. I appreciate that

1:12:59

it's stored locally. Yeah, but some of the stuff... Stored locally does

1:13:01

not mean secure. Encrypted

1:13:04

does not mean secure. Do you hear the argument? Nothing

1:13:06

is impenetrable. Nothing is fully secure. Do you hear the

1:13:08

argument for why we should be okay with it? Because

1:13:12

this is all just coming anyway and

1:13:15

we should just kind of deal with it. Everyone's going

1:13:17

to have an equivalent thing. Like,

1:13:20

man, we're talking about them having

1:13:22

capabilities like, I forgot my password

1:13:24

for my mobile operator's

1:13:26

online portal. What is

1:13:28

it? Cortana? You

1:13:32

can't be storing that

1:13:34

stuff. Yeah. It's

1:13:37

sketch. Yeah, this interview on Bloomberg

1:13:40

Television... I think

1:13:42

this is the interview at least. At

1:13:45

some point in time, the interviewer asks

1:13:47

Satya Nadella... Is this it? Yeah,

1:13:50

I think so. I'm not ever since

1:13:52

this is the right one, but I think it is. At

1:13:54

some point in time in the video,

1:13:57

she asks him... creepy

1:14:00

basically and he responds with

1:14:02

effectively what Linus just said which is like I

1:14:04

don't know AI stuff is going to be like

1:14:06

this so get used to it. Not

1:14:09

obviously not exactly that very PR

1:14:11

speedy. Yeah he wordsnipped it quite a bit better

1:14:13

than that. Yes but that's basically the point. I'm

1:14:15

not nominating you for new CEO of Microsoft. Although

1:14:19

they might go in a good direction with you at

1:14:21

the helm. I don't know if they'd make money though.

1:14:23

Probably not. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14:27

Oh a question. Syncplane

1:14:29

asks, hey can you ask Dan again what doesn't

1:14:31

work on Linux for WAN show? Yeah I'm very

1:14:34

curious about that. Oh that's the

1:14:36

vMix. That's basically just vMix. It

1:14:39

uses too much of the Windows libraries for

1:14:42

especially because almost all of it is

1:14:44

GPU. It's very very

1:14:46

stable because it's a pretty much 100% GPU compute. Someone's

1:14:49

this is one of the problems that we run into

1:14:52

and now I'm going to piss all the Linux people

1:14:54

off. So

1:14:56

there's a couple. We

1:14:58

start talking about how we could maybe adopt

1:15:00

Linux again and floatplane chat erupts with, you

1:15:02

should use this distro with this thing and

1:15:05

this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

1:15:08

That's scary for new users. And then the

1:15:10

other one is, tell

1:15:13

me the software that didn't work because

1:15:15

they know some way to magically get

1:15:17

it to function in some way somehow.

1:15:20

Yeah I'm running it on metal. I'm not going

1:15:22

to emulate an operating system underneath it. Yeah. There's

1:15:25

always that one program. And it

1:15:27

stops working and then we want to go live on

1:15:29

WAN show but it doesn't work so you have to

1:15:31

tinker with Linux to make it function. It's like, ahh.

1:15:33

Yeah. Or we could just spend $100 on

1:15:35

a Windows license. This is Windows

1:15:38

11 that has vMix installed on it

1:15:40

and Chrome. That is all that

1:15:42

is on this computer. This is why

1:15:44

business, I don't really see them moving.

1:15:47

And at home as well, there's always that

1:15:50

one program that I need to be using

1:15:52

that doesn't exist. You had a rough day

1:15:54

at work, driving home, three

1:15:56

different people cut you off, someone

1:15:59

scraped this idea or called. you're

1:16:01

upset, you go get some coffee and you spill it

1:16:03

and you finally get home, you just want to play

1:16:05

video games and you sit on your computer and they

1:16:07

won't work for some reason. And

1:16:10

it happened a lot, guys. I

1:16:14

think if you're being honest with yourselves, it

1:16:17

doesn't bother you because you enjoy the tinkering. There

1:16:20

is tinkering. Which is great. Which is fine. Fantastic.

1:16:22

I have lots of things that I do the

1:16:24

hard way because I enjoy it. I don't have

1:16:27

to paint my own motorcycle, believe it or not.

1:16:30

I'm doing it. I have pictures.

1:16:32

See, I was gonna say, speaking of which. I

1:16:34

put white on it. Nice. Primer?

1:16:38

Nope, it's primed gray. But

1:16:40

the frame needs to be painted white because

1:16:43

the pink that's gonna go over top of it

1:16:46

doesn't shine through as brightly if

1:16:49

it just goes on gray primer. I apparently don't have

1:16:51

pictures of it, so forget that. How

1:16:53

much longer do you think? The

1:16:55

paint shop keeps telling me today, bro.

1:16:59

Don't tell me today. Tell me tomorrow.

1:17:02

Give yourself some wiggle room for... Seven

1:17:06

or eight business days. They've been telling me I'll have it for

1:17:08

you today. Is

1:17:11

it today or is it... I don't

1:17:13

know. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Sometimes you have the

1:17:15

best intentions. I know. I'm waiting

1:17:17

on the mid coat and the effect coat and then

1:17:19

I can do the whole thing. Like I'm ready to

1:17:21

paint. That's exciting.

1:17:23

Yeah, I'm really excited. Someone

1:17:27

said, yeah, it's also perfectly okay to only partially

1:17:29

move to something if it doesn't work. I

1:17:32

hear that, but then like I said earlier in the show,

1:17:34

like I don't wanna be switching between operating systems all the

1:17:36

time. Why are we training up our level one technicians on

1:17:39

two operating systems? Yeah. No,

1:17:41

not man. We got grub on the computers

1:17:43

now and like, oh, you make a mistake

1:17:45

and now you won't boot. And I've dealt

1:17:47

with that before. I used to triple boot

1:17:49

between OSX, Windows, and

1:17:52

Linux on one machine. Back

1:17:54

when you could do the Hackintosh. Yeah. Yeah,

1:17:57

well, I worked for you. Obviously!

1:18:00

That's why we hired you! Yeah!

1:18:03

It sucks. I just want to go home and not

1:18:06

do work. Basically, there's

1:18:08

some significant bumps

1:18:10

to get over still. I'm sure those are... I mean,

1:18:12

I haven't touched it in a long time. I'm sure

1:18:15

those are still problems. But,

1:18:17

you know, the more bumps Microsoft puts

1:18:20

in front of Windows, eventually

1:18:22

those roads might start looking pretty similar. And

1:18:25

when they do, I think Linux starts to

1:18:27

win. Yeah.

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that was awful. one-upped

1:22:00

me apparently being Dan's dad.

1:22:03

Yeah, that was a little weird.

1:22:06

Is it too late for an abortion?

1:22:08

Like, why does he have a beard? I

1:22:11

came out of the womb with that bearded baby. Oh

1:22:15

boy. What

1:22:17

do you want to do next?

1:22:20

Three merch messages. Oh yeah, right. Sorry. Yes,

1:22:23

Dan. Yes, sir. Okay,

1:22:25

sir. Having trouble balancing work and time

1:22:27

with my partner. She says we compromised

1:22:29

on shared time too much, but I

1:22:31

made two-thirds versus last year. I

1:22:33

work odd hours to get overtime, but get

1:22:35

three days off. Advice. Three

1:22:39

days off is a lot. Right,

1:22:43

but do those hours always coincide with her time

1:22:45

off? Yeah. Because

1:22:47

if you have three days off, but you spend two of them,

1:22:49

like, gaming in your cave – and to be clear, I'm not

1:22:51

saying you're doing that. I'm just saying three days

1:22:53

off does not necessarily equate to three

1:22:55

days together. Totally. I

1:22:59

mean, that's a tough one. You

1:23:01

got to make time. Relationships do

1:23:03

not autopilot. You also

1:23:05

need to set realistic expectations.

1:23:08

Because as they said, I made two-thirds versus

1:23:10

last year. Economic times are

1:23:13

tough right now. You can't just, like,

1:23:15

not push. I

1:23:17

mean, I remember we talked – well, not we

1:23:19

didn't talk about it, but we alluded to it last

1:23:21

week when Yvonne was on the show with us. Yeah,

1:23:25

we had some really tough conversations. What

1:23:28

I often fell back on, in fact, being

1:23:31

across the hall from us with those

1:23:33

paper-thin walls, what I often –

1:23:35

you've probably heard me say this before, but what

1:23:37

I often alluded to was that old impression –

1:23:39

Sometimes they would go downstairs to the living room

1:23:41

area thinking that it did

1:23:43

anything. Anyway, I

1:23:47

often would talk about making hay while the

1:23:50

sun's shining. Like that's a

1:23:52

– if you have a good opportunity

1:23:54

now. But then you also can – depending on your

1:23:56

financial situation, you might not – if the sun's no

1:23:58

longer shining, you might – You may not have

1:24:00

an opportunity to. not a race that make a

1:24:03

anyway I in the answers kind of the same.

1:24:05

Either way I guess is like yeah at the

1:24:07

end of the day works is our modern equivalent

1:24:09

of going out and foraging for food and building

1:24:11

selter. Arm and like

1:24:13

if we don't do it, we don't. Eat.

1:24:16

And we don't have. Shelter. And

1:24:18

there are alternatives. You could be a

1:24:20

mountain man and you guys could go

1:24:22

to the mountain moon And you said

1:24:24

forage for food and build selter. Arm.

1:24:27

But what I suspect is that he doesn't

1:24:29

want to do that. Arm

1:24:32

and maybe. Maybe. In.

1:24:35

Which case, I hope you're ready for some.

1:24:37

Significant lifestyle adjustments might be sick you

1:24:39

will be watching when so much from

1:24:41

out there I like I will pass

1:24:44

some. Cats

1:24:46

Tough. I mean, I think that the

1:24:48

most important thing in any relationship in

1:24:50

any conflict is you gotta communicate. Your.

1:24:52

Holes got a court case. What are

1:24:54

my needs? What are your

1:24:57

needs? What are the real estate's. Ah,

1:25:00

I'm challenges that we face to Ah

1:25:02

to meet both of them. And what's

1:25:04

the closest that we can get to

1:25:06

a middle ground? Yeah. I'm

1:25:09

like you You're pointing out yourself. I may

1:25:11

two thirds vs. last year. Ah, it's you

1:25:13

may not be as. Financially. Minded

1:25:15

are financially focused on the I

1:25:17

find there's usually like one person

1:25:19

in the relationship that is more

1:25:21

cellulite for. For for.

1:25:24

You have on is more financially focused

1:25:26

I think. He's

1:25:28

better at it says prof say that much

1:25:30

of Richards. But I

1:25:32

okay man this is. this is one of those

1:25:34

things where I feel like in in trying to

1:25:37

make sure that people properly appreciate that Yvonne is

1:25:39

not just the boss's wife and take your way

1:25:41

to work day. I have talked a lot about

1:25:43

how good she is that that kind of stuff.

1:25:46

That's. Don't kid yourself, not some idiot

1:25:48

the like. Either.

1:25:51

I don't have a budget, things and

1:25:53

stuff so. Of meme

1:25:55

in on your but I love the problem

1:25:57

is that they don't know that the seems

1:25:59

to fairness. There seem to be a lot of people

1:26:01

that when I build someone else up and

1:26:03

I kind of have like I have kind of a

1:26:06

self-deprecating style of humor. People

1:26:09

seem to take it at face value which well

1:26:15

hey. I see

1:26:17

you and that's okay my literal

1:26:19

friends. My point was it

1:26:22

might be a good idea to sit down

1:26:24

with the books. With her. Try

1:26:27

to explain or with them. Try

1:26:29

to explain oh

1:26:32

no it says she. Yeah. Try

1:26:35

to explain like this is why okay I made

1:26:38

two-thirds versus last year. These are my financial goals

1:26:40

over the next while which will put us in

1:26:42

these financial positions where retirement

1:26:44

might be more comfy. We might

1:26:46

be able to rent

1:26:50

a better place or buy a better place

1:26:52

or buy a place at all or do

1:26:54

whatever have more financial insulation if

1:26:56

something bad happens. Say one of us loses a

1:26:58

job this will give us more of a runway

1:27:00

like explain all of these different types of things.

1:27:02

But if I could give a little bit of

1:27:04

advice don't man-plain it ask questions. Totally.

1:27:07

Ask questions like in the event

1:27:09

that one of us lost a job how

1:27:11

long would you expect us to take to

1:27:14

get a new job and how

1:27:16

much of what we're making now would we be willing

1:27:18

to settle for? Ask questions like

1:27:20

that layout a scenario and then do the

1:27:22

math together rather than doing it all ahead

1:27:24

of time and basically giving a presentation because that can

1:27:26

that can have a little bit of the ick. Totally

1:27:29

that makes sense. Yeah.

1:27:32

Yeah I worked with them on it I don't know. I'm

1:27:36

showing my seven-year-old some games from my

1:27:38

own childhood for example roller coaster tycoon

1:27:40

worms and age of empires 2. How

1:27:43

has your children responded to older

1:27:45

games like these as they grew

1:27:48

older? Did any really get into

1:27:50

some? I

1:27:54

haven't played older games with my kids

1:27:56

that much but what I will

1:27:58

say is they tend to enjoy things

1:28:01

the most when you do it with them. So

1:28:03

if you just give them roller coaster tycoon and

1:28:05

walk away, I doubt that's gonna be very effective.

1:28:07

But if you sit and make coasters with them,

1:28:10

that will be super effective.

1:28:12

Like, my son would never

1:28:14

pick up Liero on his own. Like,

1:28:17

he doesn't, he could. But

1:28:19

he loves playing it with me. So

1:28:22

that's the kind of thing you gotta do, right? If you want

1:28:24

them to kind of enjoy the same things as you and you

1:28:26

wanna kind of make that connection, just make sure that you understand

1:28:28

it has to go both ways. I've had

1:28:30

to spend more time than I otherwise

1:28:32

would have playing Minecraft Dungeons because

1:28:35

my kids like it. And it's, what,

1:28:39

it's Diablo, right? Like, it's just

1:28:41

stupid, just click on everything, dungeon

1:28:43

crawler game, right? And to

1:28:45

be clear, if you enjoy Minecraft Dungeons, that's fine,

1:28:47

there's good gameplay mechanics. And I'm sure at like

1:28:50

a high level, you can be good at it

1:28:52

and stuff. It's not just click on things or whatever.

1:28:54

Like, some of the raids are pretty

1:28:56

challenging and like, we got wiped and

1:28:58

stuff. So no disrespect intended.

1:29:01

It's just not really my genre. And

1:29:04

I've played a lot more of it than I would have if my

1:29:06

kids hadn't asked me to. Right.

1:29:10

And let's see, what's our last one

1:29:12

here? Hello, Dalu Lee. I

1:29:15

recently sent my 89 civic

1:29:17

hatchback into a tree at 35 miles an

1:29:19

hour, a day before I went on vacation.

1:29:22

Have you had anything catastrophic happen before

1:29:24

an event but found a way to go

1:29:26

anyway? What

1:29:28

a specific question. Oh

1:29:31

no. Before

1:29:35

an event, I mean, I'm

1:29:37

sure I've had something terrible happen before an event. I

1:29:39

mean, you get sick anytime you go anywhere. So that's

1:29:41

kind of catastrophic. Yeah, I'm worried. Remember that time you

1:29:43

went to Japan and then just stayed in your hotel

1:29:45

room the whole time? That was Taiwan.

1:29:48

Taiwan, sure, whatever. That's where I'm going again.

1:29:50

Nice. Hopefully I don't get sick again. I thought

1:29:53

you also had to stay in your hotel room a lot in Japan. Yeah,

1:29:55

so I'm not wrong. So I haven't not been.

1:30:00

Why am I being so defensive right now? I

1:30:04

haven't not been sick during a vacation for three

1:30:06

years. Nice. We're rolling

1:30:08

the dice again. Nice. Seeing

1:30:11

how it goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it'll work

1:30:13

out. You got... I'm

1:30:15

not sick, don't worry. Thanks. Unless

1:30:18

I am. We'll find out

1:30:20

soon. Yeah, I mean, it'll affect me too, I

1:30:22

guess. Let's hope neither of us is sick. Yes.

1:30:25

Um... I

1:30:27

don't know. It's happened a bunch of times. Tell me this. I

1:30:31

don't really want to give examples. Tell me this. Okay. Now,

1:30:35

obviously, I'm not going to ask you if you're going

1:30:37

to wear a cloth square on your face. But

1:30:40

would you consider using

1:30:42

one of the, like, organic particulate filters,

1:30:44

like I have for my painting booth? Would

1:30:47

you consider wearing one of those on the plane? Because

1:30:49

close quarters on a plane? Look,

1:30:52

I don't give a f*** if you believe

1:30:54

that COVID was a government conspiracy or whatever.

1:30:58

I actually don't care. The

1:31:00

cold, hard truth is that proximity,

1:31:03

especially over an extended period of time,

1:31:05

to people who are infected with any

1:31:07

kind of even remotely airborne illness, increases

1:31:10

the chances of you getting sick. No.

1:31:15

If you're going to say anything other than that

1:31:17

being near sick people makes you sick, you're actually

1:31:19

stupid and you can go away. So

1:31:22

if you were to wear, like, a

1:31:24

real filtering mask, if that was an

1:31:26

option, because it is, they're like a

1:31:28

hundred bucks. And the cartridges are much

1:31:30

cheaper. They're like interchangeable cartridges. Yeah, I

1:31:33

have one. I used to use it

1:31:35

for working with cement. How badly do you not want to

1:31:37

get sick? I think

1:31:40

not badly enough to wear that. Really?

1:31:43

Which is funny because I actually find them wildly

1:31:45

more comfortable to wear. Yeah,

1:31:48

they're not that uncomfortable. But people,

1:31:50

like, hate it so

1:31:53

much. I don't

1:31:55

know why. I tried it before. When

1:31:57

this whole thing first popped off, my

1:31:59

immediate... reaction was to go get

1:32:01

my old cement mask thing.

1:32:03

Yeah. Cause I'm like, they

1:32:06

have removable filters. I'll just buy the

1:32:08

N95 ones cause those exist. And

1:32:10

you can just click them in and then

1:32:13

I'm good, right? And the whole world was like,

1:32:15

no, we have to use these really annoying one

1:32:18

size fits all. They don't fit your head.

1:32:20

They're going to literally cut your ears masks. And

1:32:22

I'm like, why? Like when

1:32:24

I'm on planes, you know what I actually

1:32:26

do? Yeah. I wear those old

1:32:28

noise canceling headphones that you got

1:32:30

for us. Any 14? I

1:32:35

don't even remember. I don't remember when. You

1:32:37

bought everybody noise canceling headphones for trips like

1:32:39

a billion years ago. Oh, okay. I

1:32:43

still have those and I hooked the mask

1:32:45

around those. Oh,

1:32:47

that doesn't cut into my ears. Yeah. If

1:32:49

I don't, I've actually bled from masks before. Wow.

1:32:52

My head's too big. I've already printed a bunch of ear

1:32:55

saver masks. It's so annoying. And I'm the one

1:32:57

with the ego. Ha ha ha.

1:33:01

That makes sense. I did it before.

1:33:03

That was during COVID. They were the

1:33:06

blood people, the blood letting people. I

1:33:08

can't remember the cold, like life labs

1:33:10

and stuff like that. Oh,

1:33:12

blood letting people. You

1:33:14

mean the clinic? Yeah, the clinic where they

1:33:16

let your blood go into the tube. Do

1:33:18

you call your doctor a saw bones? It'd

1:33:22

be funny. It'd be very funny.

1:33:24

Dr. Sawbones, please. I have the, I have

1:33:27

the vapors. And

1:33:29

those worked really well because they were having to wear masks

1:33:31

like for 10, 12 hours a day and

1:33:34

they were all bleeding as well. So you could

1:33:37

try one of those, although they'd probably be pretty

1:33:39

silly. I don't know what happened. I used to

1:33:41

get sick decently

1:33:43

often, enough that it was annoying,

1:33:45

but it would always be for like really short

1:33:47

periods of time. And it was like

1:33:49

usually pretty easy. Like I would get sick on like

1:33:52

a Thursday or a Friday and I'd be better again by

1:33:54

the time I'm back in our work on Monday. And I'd

1:33:56

like lose a weekend and it would suck, but like it

1:33:58

didn't really matter. And now. get sick

1:34:00

and it just doesn't go away for

1:34:02

so long. And like the

1:34:05

most recent two of them I tested and

1:34:07

they weren't COVID. So

1:34:09

like, it's just something. I have no idea. I

1:34:12

don't know, man. I, um, for me,

1:34:14

the, uh, I don't wear

1:34:16

a mask anymore because we don't have mandates

1:34:18

and lockdowns and there's, you know, there's, there's

1:34:20

a lot more certainty about, uh, COVID

1:34:23

and its various, uh, its various changes over the

1:34:25

years and all of that. So I'm, I'm a

1:34:27

lot less worried about it. Um,

1:34:30

I mean, it's, it's the unknown that was, that

1:34:32

was the reason for a lot of the protective

1:34:34

measures we didn't know, you know, what it

1:34:36

was going to do. We didn't know what the impacts were going to

1:34:38

be long-term. Um, so

1:34:40

I don't, I don't wear a mask anymore, but

1:34:42

what I do still do is I wash my

1:34:44

hands way more than I used to. That's

1:34:47

a new one for me. I never get sick anymore.

1:34:50

Think about it. When's the last time you saw

1:34:52

me miss a day of work? Cause I'm sick. Yeah. Like basically

1:34:54

never. Remember. And in the old days

1:34:56

I used to work anyway, but I,

1:34:58

you go back to some of the old videos and

1:35:00

I'm like, Oh, so you get like, there's no voice

1:35:02

and stuff. Dude, I never get

1:35:04

sick anymore. Washing your hands more.

1:35:06

And it's not like I was like a

1:35:08

dirty, gross, disgusting person before anything. Like I

1:35:10

wash my hands when I use the bathroom and

1:35:13

stuff like that. But I switched my mentality.

1:35:16

I used to wash my hands whenever

1:35:18

I did something dirty. Now

1:35:21

I wash my hands before

1:35:23

I'm about to do something that requires

1:35:25

cleanliness. Yes. And also that. Yeah.

1:35:28

And that has made probably the

1:35:30

biggest difference out of every behavioral.

1:35:34

I'm also really hardcore about, um,

1:35:36

uh, when

1:35:39

I go to the gym, I'm really hardcore about

1:35:41

not touching my face with my hands. Sometimes

1:35:45

I might, you know, there's sweat or whatever I'll

1:35:47

use like my arm. I'll do it, but I'll

1:35:49

make sure that I've washed my hands first. Well,

1:35:51

I'll do that. But then at the gym, you're

1:35:53

touching things in the gym. There's no way. Yeah.

1:35:55

So I, I, I pre-wiped down every surface that

1:35:58

I use in the gym, including bars. like

1:36:00

barbells, whatever else. And then even

1:36:03

despite that, if I need to touch my face, I'll

1:36:05

use like, you know, you do

1:36:07

this with your hands so you can have a point

1:36:10

with this part of the wrist. And then I'll like

1:36:12

use that if I need to or just my, the

1:36:14

whole back of my arm or whatever. Like I'll find

1:36:16

some way to not use the inside of my hand

1:36:18

without touching things with. Unique username reminds

1:36:20

me that you just had a UTI line. Sorry

1:36:22

for the reminder, I did. But

1:36:24

that's not related to transmissible.

1:36:27

Although there are person

1:36:30

to person transmission things that

1:36:32

can cause a UTI, which actually

1:36:35

reminds me of the time that

1:36:37

my doctor in front of

1:36:39

me basically told

1:36:41

me, Vaughn, oh honey, he's

1:36:43

cheating on you. Have I

1:36:45

never told you this story? No. What?

1:36:49

Anyway, antibiotics, they're a

1:36:51

miracle. I'm fine now, thank you. As

1:36:53

far as the UTI goes. Oh. Sorry,

1:36:58

Keith. Oh

1:37:01

no. But I got

1:37:03

an unrelated blood test for something. What's

1:37:05

happening? I got an

1:37:08

unrelated blood test for something or

1:37:10

other. And

1:37:12

I tested positive for, I'm gonna get all

1:37:14

the details wrong because I am not a

1:37:17

doctor and it doesn't matter to

1:37:19

me in my daily life. But I

1:37:21

tested positive for like the

1:37:24

association of

1:37:28

proteins or

1:37:30

the antibodies or something of

1:37:33

one of the hepatitis. And

1:37:38

basically, whichever one it is, it's one

1:37:41

that you, that

1:37:43

is sexually transmitted. So

1:37:46

I went in for this totally unrelated

1:37:48

blood test. It was probably something to

1:37:50

do with getting

1:37:53

my blood tested to figure out if I

1:37:55

had arthritis because I had these issues with

1:37:58

inflammation in my knees and now. they

1:38:00

think it was juvenile rheumatoid arthritis.

1:38:03

It's kind of gone into remission. It'll probably come back

1:38:05

with a vengeance when I'm old but for now, I'm

1:38:07

doing pretty great. Anyway,

1:38:10

so I was probably in for a blood test for

1:38:12

that or something. They

1:38:14

basically go, okay, but you've got this antigen

1:38:16

or protein or something. It was something to

1:38:18

do with one of the hepatitis's. They

1:38:22

basically go, okay, so what does that

1:38:25

mean? They're basically like, well,

1:38:27

it usually indicates

1:38:30

that you've had at some

1:38:33

point this sexually

1:38:38

transmitted disease and

1:38:41

Yvonne pipes up and she goes, okay, but

1:38:43

he hasn't because I don't and

1:38:46

I never have. She

1:38:48

kind of goes, well,

1:38:54

that's how you get it. So

1:38:56

I think you guys might have to have a conversation

1:38:58

about this. And

1:39:03

look, for me and Yvonne, it's perfectly normal

1:39:05

and acceptable for us to have a meeting

1:39:07

with our doctor, like with each other. But

1:39:11

for her to basically like, and it really

1:39:13

was that obvious. So

1:39:16

we left, obviously Yvonne and I have

1:39:18

a lot of trust in our relationship because as we

1:39:20

were leaving, I was like,

1:39:23

no, and she's like, yeah, I know. But

1:39:28

Yvonne having a background in pharmacy,

1:39:30

having an actual medical background herself,

1:39:32

oh man, that's something that I

1:39:35

think makes me more angry than

1:39:37

almost anything else. And

1:39:41

I don't know what it is. I don't

1:39:43

know if it's the general, you know,

1:39:45

arrogance that you can see with doctors

1:39:47

sometimes. I don't know if it's like

1:39:49

a misogyny thing. I don't

1:39:51

know what it is, but the number

1:39:53

of times that I have had to stand there while a

1:39:59

medical professional talks

1:40:01

down to Yvonne when

1:40:04

she clearly understands everything that's going on

1:40:06

very easily, especially when they're talking about

1:40:08

drugs, for me to pipe in and go,

1:40:10

she's a pharmacist,

1:40:13

you don't have to explain what a corticosteroid

1:40:15

is. You can move on.

1:40:18

And for them to keep going through it, explaining

1:40:20

to her like she is three years old, I

1:40:24

don't think anything makes me more angry than that.

1:40:26

So the point is this doctor who I

1:40:28

probably have had that conversation with already because

1:40:32

I understand these things pretty well, whether

1:40:34

it's from just paying attention in school

1:40:36

or it's from taking some first year

1:40:39

biology classes or from doing flashcards with

1:40:41

Yvonne. I've picked up a lot. I

1:40:43

don't need someone to explain to me

1:40:45

what an anti-inflammatory is. I don't need

1:40:47

someone to explain to me what an

1:40:50

NSAID is. I know

1:40:52

what these things are. Aren't

1:40:55

you paid by the number of patients you see? Let's

1:40:57

do this thing. So I tend to jump

1:40:59

in with that. She's a pharmacist. You don't have to

1:41:02

explain this. She knows what aspirin is. Let's

1:41:04

move on. Anyway,

1:41:06

so Yvonne starts asking probing

1:41:09

questions. So dismissive.

1:41:12

The doctor was so dismissive

1:41:15

of her questions where she was basically probing for,

1:41:17

okay, well, what are the other? The

1:41:19

doctor was treating her like she was basically asking

1:41:21

if she could get pregnant from a toilet seat.

1:41:24

Is that how he got it? But

1:41:27

what she was actually asking for is, okay,

1:41:29

look, I'm a little rusty on the antigens

1:41:31

versus the proteins versus the antibodies. Is

1:41:33

there some other thing that could have caused

1:41:35

it? And

1:41:37

as it turns out, when

1:41:40

we went for another blood test and

1:41:42

we came back for the results, the

1:41:45

doctor with no apology whatsoever for the

1:41:47

incredibly awkward situation she'd created that could

1:41:49

have in a different relationship caused a

1:41:51

pretty big stir. Okay. Because

1:41:54

even if it, even if you did end

1:41:56

up figuring out that it wasn't true, irreparable

1:41:58

damage could have been done. No apology whatsoever.

1:42:00

is basically like, yeah,

1:42:03

he like had, he

1:42:05

had some exposure to it at some

1:42:07

point through a vaccine and

1:42:11

had the whatever's, but

1:42:14

we didn't check for that last time so I didn't know.

1:42:16

F*** you.

1:42:19

Like you actually don't get to do that, that's

1:42:22

not cool. And don't worry, I have

1:42:24

a new doctor now. That was

1:42:26

a, it was a clinic doctor. I hate

1:42:28

going to walk-in clinics. It's basically- But we

1:42:30

didn't have a family doctor at that time

1:42:32

between the two of us and

1:42:34

my, technically still my family

1:42:36

doctor's like out in mission because he was

1:42:39

my family doctor from before Yvonne and

1:42:41

I like moved to not mission so

1:42:43

like I just didn't have one yet and I

1:42:46

was super young and super healthy. Mine is super

1:42:48

far away, like 45 minutes. Yeah, it sucks. Am

1:42:50

I, the walk-in clinic- Four minutes from the office

1:42:52

baby, I looked out. That's amazing.

1:42:56

Dude, she tried to call me on a weekend about

1:42:58

my results for the UTI thing. She like calls me

1:43:00

on a Saturday. I don't pick up because I don't

1:43:02

answer my phone because it's leaked a thousand times and

1:43:04

I just give up on changing my phone number at

1:43:06

this point. So she calls

1:43:08

me on a Saturday. I don't pick up. She

1:43:11

texts me. She's like, yo, I dealt with

1:43:13

all your stuff. Go pick it up at this pharmacy. It's the one

1:43:15

near you I checked. Holy crap.

1:43:17

She is absolutely based. I love

1:43:20

my doctor

1:43:24

and she's like my age. So I

1:43:26

basically, as long as she doesn't retire,

1:43:29

Dr. T. As

1:43:34

long as she doesn't retire, I'm keeping

1:43:37

her for life. She's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1:43:39

the only at this point, the only reason why

1:43:41

I go into a walk-in is if I am

1:43:44

a hundred percent confident what's going on, I'll

1:43:46

go in and like tell them and then they can get

1:43:48

me whatever. Yeah, a lot of them argue with you anyway,

1:43:50

though. Honestly, the one that I

1:43:52

go to, usually they just like verify really quick and they're

1:43:55

like, okay, sure. And then that's pretty good because I have

1:43:57

this prompt. I've explained this to you before my like your

1:43:59

canals are kind of weird. I can't

1:44:01

have the squishy ear buds because they just fall out.

1:44:04

I also sometimes have a hard time when

1:44:07

I get off of planes sometimes my ear just won't

1:44:09

pop. Oh, that's bad.

1:44:11

So I have to go in and like they help me

1:44:14

do it. Oh, that's rough. So I'll just like tell them

1:44:16

like this is the problem. This is

1:44:18

the way that you guys have successfully done it

1:44:20

in the past and let us be like, okay,

1:44:22

let us do it. That's pretty straightforward. It's like

1:44:24

cool. Yeah, walk in doctors or

1:44:26

just like any doctor that just like doesn't

1:44:28

care. It's such a kind of

1:44:32

it's a scourge, dude. I agree, but

1:44:34

I get it here because here we

1:44:36

have such an insane shortage. So they have five minutes

1:44:39

with you. How are they going to care if they

1:44:41

have five minutes? I get it. Five minutes, one question.

1:44:43

What are you going to how are you going to

1:44:45

get invested in this person? Like I

1:44:47

it sucks. Dr.

1:44:50

T, please don't leave me. Some

1:44:52

people are like time to switch doctors. It's

1:44:55

not that easy. That's not that easy. We

1:44:57

have a significant shortage and same shortage. She

1:44:59

probably doesn't have open spots. She probably has

1:45:01

a system where family can get added on.

1:45:04

So any of these families that are growing,

1:45:06

that's her new clientele. She can't bring on

1:45:08

more people. And it's really challenging because there's

1:45:10

dynamics at play that are not as simple

1:45:13

as just like, oh, I don't know. Why

1:45:15

don't you guys substitute our substitute? Why don't

1:45:17

you guys subsidize your doctor training programs? Like

1:45:19

it's not that simple. Like if you a lot

1:45:22

of the problem is that we have a brain drain down

1:45:24

to the United States where doctors make a lot more money.

1:45:27

But a lot of the reasons that doctors

1:45:29

make a lot more money is because of

1:45:31

how bloated and broken

1:45:34

the US medical system is. Like that

1:45:36

whole, you know, here's your $30

1:45:39

Band-Aid thing that goes on where

1:45:41

insurance companies where

1:45:43

there's where there's these outrageous fees that

1:45:45

are being charged because insurance companies will

1:45:48

just pay for it and then we'll

1:45:50

just, you know, build their subscribers

1:45:52

for it. Let that whole system

1:45:54

is hyper inefficient and

1:45:57

facilitates doctors who

1:45:59

will work. down there making way

1:46:02

more money such that a

1:46:04

more efficient system can't compete

1:46:06

with it. And to be

1:46:08

clear, I am not saying the Canadian system is efficient.

1:46:12

I am saying it is more efficient,

1:46:14

which is objectively true. I'm so

1:46:16

sorry, my American friends. And

1:46:19

they get like, some of them get like

1:46:21

super, super, super, super mad about anything to

1:46:23

do with that sounds even remotely critical of

1:46:25

anything about America. I apologize sincerely for that.

1:46:28

That is my Canadian way. But

1:46:32

your system is not very good. Yeah. Apparently

1:46:38

there is something called ear planes that can

1:46:40

like help with the thing that I have.

1:46:43

Maybe I will look into this. Some sort

1:46:45

of used station tube dysfunction? The Band-Aids have

1:46:47

freedom. I don't remember the name. I

1:46:50

figured it out with my doctor like I

1:46:52

think it was like the second time we went to CES so this would have been like

1:46:55

2013, 2020. That is why we have

1:46:57

guns so we can end it when we get sick.

1:47:00

Doesn't the Canadian government also recommend that? Some

1:47:02

of the Americans in our chat are spicy.

1:47:06

Yeah. All

1:47:08

right, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Langleyman

1:47:12

says, I have been waiting eight months for

1:47:14

an MRI for a rotator cuff injury. I

1:47:16

love Canadian healthcare. Yeah. Yeah. It

1:47:19

is not a perfect system. I will not even begin to pretend

1:47:21

it is a perfect system. It

1:47:26

turns out everything is corrupt wherever lots

1:47:28

of money is involved. Yeah. That

1:47:31

is what we learned. Yeah. Up

1:47:33

here the weights are brutal. When

1:47:35

I was really sick, I don't know, three

1:47:37

months ago, something like that. It

1:47:42

was like go to a walk-in and

1:47:44

they basically, I did once and they

1:47:46

were more or less like, I don't know.

1:47:51

Okay, cool. And

1:47:53

then I went to go schedule and point with my actual

1:47:55

doctor and he was like, well, it is

1:47:57

going to be like a month or a little bit more before I have an implant.

1:48:00

appointment open. Because

1:48:02

it's not an emergency. I

1:48:04

was clearly not dying. I

1:48:06

was just sick for a really long

1:48:08

time. He's like, well, you can book

1:48:10

an appointment. I was like, I'll probably be better by then. He's

1:48:12

like, yep. OK.

1:48:16

You can always book it and then cancel it

1:48:18

when you're close. And then an opening will be

1:48:21

available to someone who needs one soon. Just

1:48:24

saying, that's the system. We're

1:48:27

apparently supposed to do when after dark? We haven't even made

1:48:29

it through all our topics. Luke has to leave in 18

1:48:31

minutes. But we didn't even

1:48:33

talk about Google's AI siting the onion

1:48:36

and recommending the health benefits of drinking pee.

1:48:40

Google's AI overviews in search

1:48:42

appear to be drawing information

1:48:44

from very questionable sources with

1:48:47

limited discernment, including telling a

1:48:49

user to try making cheese

1:48:51

adhere better to their homemade

1:48:53

pizza to add about

1:48:55

1 eighth of a cup of Elmer's glue

1:48:57

in with the sauce. The source

1:48:59

for this wisdom appears to be an 11-year-old

1:49:02

Reddit comment made by user F**kSmith. AI

1:49:05

overviews likewise recommended eating at

1:49:08

least one small rock per

1:49:10

day, which an attributed to

1:49:13

UC Berkeley geologists. But it's actually a

1:49:15

recommendation made in a 2021 Onion

1:49:19

article. Another user

1:49:21

asked, what mammal has the most bones

1:49:24

and was instead told that snakes have

1:49:26

the most bones of any vertebrate? Not

1:49:29

a mammal, I'm afraid. These

1:49:31

errors included medical misinformation, such

1:49:33

as recommending smoking two to

1:49:35

three cigarettes a day while pregnant. Even

1:49:39

prior to the full rollout, AI overviews

1:49:41

were making similar mistakes, including telling at

1:49:43

least one user to drink large amounts

1:49:45

of urine in order to dislodge

1:49:47

a kidney stone. I mean, you can't prove it

1:49:49

wouldn't work. A

1:49:52

Google spokesperson says that the

1:49:54

mistakes came from generally

1:49:57

very uncommon queries. representative

1:50:00

of most people's experiences.

1:50:03

I mean that's the thing about hallucinations

1:50:05

in it. You see most

1:50:07

of the world as it

1:50:09

is except

1:50:11

for the ants that are calling out of your skin that cause

1:50:14

you to rip your skin off. You

1:50:16

know? Anywho, users can use the

1:50:18

web tab to remove these elements

1:50:20

or automate the process by changing

1:50:22

their browser settings to add UDM

1:50:25

equals 14 to the end of their

1:50:27

search URL. In other AI

1:50:29

news, the Chinese website for Cooler Master

1:50:31

is apparently advertising their new CryoFuse 5

1:50:33

product which comes in six different colors

1:50:36

as competitive AI thermal paste. The official

1:50:38

name for the product translates as thermal

1:50:40

paste AI sports lottery. Anywho,

1:50:43

they have apparently apologized for that and it was a

1:50:46

translation error or something but I just thought it was

1:50:48

funny to put in with our AI news. iFixit

1:50:51

has dumped Samsung. They're officially dropping them as

1:50:53

a partner saying the company seems unwilling to

1:50:55

make good face progress towards making its devices

1:50:58

more repairable. However, they will continue to provide

1:51:00

parts and repair kits for Samsung devices to

1:51:02

consumers. Since partnering

1:51:04

with iFixit two years ago, Samsung has

1:51:07

apparently kept parts price high and continued

1:51:09

to engage in unnecessary parts pairing. According

1:51:11

to a leaked contract, Samsung also required

1:51:14

independent repair shops to report the

1:51:16

personal information and repair details of

1:51:18

customers and to immediately disassemble Samsung

1:51:21

devices that were repaired with third-party

1:51:23

parts. So eat Samsung basically. I criticized

1:51:31

this kind of stuff when Apple does it and

1:51:33

I would spend a lot longer railing on this

1:51:35

except Luke has to go so dang.

1:51:38

Cold ones reviewed our screwdriver.

1:51:41

Oh really? Oh

1:51:44

Dan? We

1:51:46

tried every youtuber product. It's

1:51:50

a pretty sick video. This

1:51:56

is the LPT screwdriver. I mean nice.

1:51:58

Yep I'm a man. I'm a man.

1:52:00

I'm a man. Nice.

1:52:02

This really gets me going. Woah, that's fucking sick.

1:52:05

Look at this. Look at all you fucking bits

1:52:07

in there. Nice clean. Have you tried it out?

1:52:09

Have you tested it? Oh no, I just keep

1:52:11

swizzling it. It's good as like an autism toy.

1:52:15

This is good. I would love to put

1:52:17

a PC together with this. Yeah. If you

1:52:19

got the wrong screw bit, then I'm

1:52:22

pretty sure this product exists on the market

1:52:24

but that concept exists but this is definitely

1:52:26

a very good execution of it. Yeah, it's

1:52:28

simple, it's sleek. I was rough and it

1:52:30

fucked the screw, not the screwdriver. That means the

1:52:32

tips are good. The Linus tips. I'm

1:52:34

thinking A tier. Just from holding it, I

1:52:36

have absolutely no issues with it. Yeah, I'm

1:52:38

happy with A. Alright, do you want your...

1:52:41

Not bad, how are A tier

1:52:43

boys? Nice. What's S? There's shoes

1:52:45

in S? This is a joke.

1:52:47

Oh, okay. They only put like

1:52:49

these stupid meme shoes in S.

1:52:51

Everything. A is effectively the top

1:52:54

tier. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm super excited

1:52:56

and honestly, dude, not a lot of

1:52:58

stuff ended up in A tier. Like we

1:53:00

are among pretty legit company up here. What

1:53:02

is the other stuff in A tier? I'm

1:53:04

kind of interested. Hold on, okay, man. Ask

1:53:07

me for all these details that I don't

1:53:09

know. Yeah. Well, let's switch

1:53:11

to 4K. Enhance. Enhance. Okay,

1:53:14

we've got a Babish tongs

1:53:17

and something, some kind of cooking thing I

1:53:19

assume. Cool. Whatever this is

1:53:21

and whatever this is and whatever this

1:53:24

thing is. Nice. And then... And whatever

1:53:26

this is. Joyride. Oh, those are those...

1:53:28

Oh, yeah. I would not consider

1:53:30

those particularly A tier. They were fine, but they

1:53:32

were too expensive. But aren't they... Oh, I see.

1:53:34

Aren't they like more healthy or something? We beat

1:53:36

the Jerry Rig Everything knife, which

1:53:38

ended up in B tier. We beat feastables,

1:53:41

which are fine, I guess. I guess that's

1:53:43

about a B. We

1:53:45

definitely beat... Ooh.

1:53:48

Are those more feastables in A tier?

1:53:50

I didn't actually notice that MKBHD

1:53:52

had a product in here. What is this? Is

1:53:54

it just a mug? How do you even rate

1:53:56

a mug? Yeah, I don't know. They use like

1:53:58

a merch company for this. stuff so it's just basic.

1:54:04

I see there's more feastables down there though. OK,

1:54:07

Prime is actually pretty decent tasting. I think there

1:54:09

is. Prime is not good. I think there's just

1:54:11

Mima Norman. But no, there's issues

1:54:13

outside of flavor. Oh, OK. Oh, so when

1:54:15

I rated influencer drinks, I

1:54:17

was only going based on flavor.

1:54:19

Just flavor? Yeah. OK.

1:54:22

Prime is not good. Crunch Labs

1:54:24

B. They were not into Mythical's

1:54:26

cereal. Same as me. I'm

1:54:28

sorry, Mythical, but it tastes

1:54:30

like shit. It's not good. Look,

1:54:33

this is one of those things that's kind of tough

1:54:35

for me because I think Crunch Labs is really cool.

1:54:37

I'm surprised Crunch Labs wasn't hiring. I've met some of

1:54:39

these people. And so

1:54:42

for me to be out there just like, yeah,

1:54:44

it's not good. Feels a

1:54:46

little awkward. But look, I got my integrity

1:54:48

boys. And mishmash is

1:54:50

not good. Sorry.

1:54:53

Rough. They

1:54:55

did not like Pocky

1:54:58

Mane's cookies. They are D tier. And

1:55:01

Dude Perfect's whatever this thing

1:55:03

is, they also do not

1:55:06

like, hold on, I'm

1:55:08

trying to switch to my laptop, whatever

1:55:10

this thing is. I don't know what this is. Oh,

1:55:14

MrBeastChocolate ended up in both E tier.

1:55:17

I tried saying this, I think, three times.

1:55:19

And B tier. Oh, it's because there's different revisions

1:55:21

of it. Yeah, people are saying that the

1:55:23

newer recipe is up higher than the older recipes

1:55:25

down low. OK, well, I'm about to have

1:55:27

a hot take here. You

1:55:30

think of the other way around? You guys have got no

1:55:32

taste. Oh, the original

1:55:34

recipe, MrBeastBars, are way higher quality

1:55:38

chocolate. I could be wrong. Hold on. No, I think you're

1:55:40

right. I don't know. The

1:55:43

new recipe is like basic mainstream chocolate. Like

1:55:47

if you're like, Nestle Aero

1:55:49

Bar, that's quality. You will like

1:55:52

the new recipe. But the old recipe is

1:55:56

a way more traditional,

1:55:58

proper chocolate. Can

1:56:01

people confirm? Okay, so the order is correct? Yeah.

1:56:05

Okay. Yeah. So they just, they

1:56:07

went mainstream and basic probably because people were like, ew. And

1:56:10

they were sitting there going, okay, well, why are we spending so

1:56:12

much to put so much real cocoa in this? We might

1:56:15

as well give them the, the swill

1:56:17

that they like. Sorry, swill

1:56:19

is a drink thing, but yeah, give

1:56:21

them the trash that they like. Yeah.

1:56:23

And honestly, I don't get it though

1:56:26

because you can just get Lindt chocolate

1:56:28

at the grocery store, which is going

1:56:30

to absolutely destroy both his original recipe

1:56:32

and the new recipe. But

1:56:35

hey, like, you know, influencer product, right? If you like

1:56:37

what Mr. Beast does and you want to support him,

1:56:39

I got, I got no problem with that. But

1:56:42

I do think their branding is like

1:56:44

world's best chocolate bar is, um, how

1:56:47

do you get away with that world's best

1:56:49

chocolate world's best pizza? What does that even,

1:56:51

what does that even, what does that even

1:56:53

mean? Define that yourself. Yeah. Yes.

1:56:57

But I would think you'd have to, I don't know. I'm

1:57:00

sure whoever worked on his marketing gave

1:57:02

some thought to it or something. Um,

1:57:07

Elijah Lindt is gross. Yeah, but Elijah, have you

1:57:09

eaten any foods? Like you tried a mango for

1:57:12

the first time like a month ago. Like,

1:57:14

but what do you even know about food? I'm sorry. Was

1:57:17

that the first time that was the first time he'd ever

1:57:19

eaten a mango? It's

1:57:21

like, come on, man. I don't know with him sometimes. Cause

1:57:25

his whole like innings thing, no, he

1:57:27

knows he's just trying to mess with

1:57:29

us. Yeah. Do you think he's trying to mess with

1:57:31

you? No, no, I don't think so. You don't think so. You think that's

1:57:33

actually the first time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

1:57:35

don't know. I don't know. 27

1:57:37

years young had never eaten a mango. A little sus. A

1:57:40

little sus on that. I don't think he would lie about that.

1:57:43

Were you there for, you weren't there for the conversation. I

1:57:46

thought I was there for him eating

1:57:48

it though. Yeah, no, no. We offered him

1:57:50

some mangoes. Wasn't that the hockey night? Yeah. Yeah.

1:57:53

That was before I got there. I

1:57:56

had mango drinks and dried stuff. So he had dried.

1:57:58

But he'd never eaten fresh mango. Okay, okay, okay.

1:58:01

So basically what, I'm gonna take food advice from

1:58:03

someone who's never tried fresh fruit? No,

1:58:05

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna do that. It's not gonna be

1:58:07

like that. Um...

1:58:10

Right. Alright. What's

1:58:12

next? Right, I'm

1:58:14

trying to blow through these things so that we...

1:58:16

Oh! Oh! Oh,

1:58:19

this is very important. We need you guys to help us. Um,

1:58:22

I've got notes from Tanner. I have an entire doc

1:58:24

about this, good lord. I might have to do this

1:58:26

later. Holy crap, it's like

1:58:28

four pages. Oh, this is important though. This is

1:58:30

very, very important. Go, Tanner. Dan, don't let me

1:58:32

forget. I will get to this after. We've

1:58:35

got a float plane early release, guys. If

1:58:37

you're subscribed on float plane, you're gonna wanna

1:58:39

go check this out. We've got

1:58:42

cable managing Sammy's setup, sponsored

1:58:44

by Secret Lab. This is a whole new

1:58:47

series for us. So we've got an early

1:58:49

release. I think this is coming out this

1:58:51

weekend or something like that. Anyway,

1:58:54

we are gonna be starting by doing

1:58:56

a couple of internal people setups. I

1:58:58

like that stuff. I like that stuff.

1:59:00

Dan is coming next. We will be

1:59:02

cable managing his setup. And then, assuming

1:59:04

that people like the content format, we

1:59:06

are gonna be opening it up to

1:59:08

the audience. If it

1:59:10

goes well on this continent, we will be

1:59:12

opening it up worldwide. I will personally show

1:59:14

up at your f***ing house with

1:59:17

cable management products in hand and I

1:59:19

will cable manage your disaster. How did

1:59:21

you agree to this? I

1:59:23

gotta sell magnetic cable management. You don't like travel management? Yeah, but

1:59:25

I gotta sell the cable management. I

1:59:29

mean, the whole thing is basically just an ad for cable

1:59:31

management products. And we vlog and we have some fun and

1:59:33

it's entertaining. It's a good video. It sounds fun. It's legitimately

1:59:35

a good video. I'm just surprised you're willing to fly for

1:59:38

it. Like we got all these tips on. I think it's

1:59:40

gonna be great. Great ways to manage cable. Look,

1:59:43

look. And that way you'll find more unique setups.

1:59:45

If I've said it once, I've said it a

1:59:47

hundred times, I am all about how many W's

1:59:49

I can stack. Win-win

1:59:52

is not enough for me. I

1:59:54

want win-win-win-win-win. Okay, so I

1:59:56

want to personally win, you know, by selling

1:59:59

some cable management. I want the company to

2:00:01

win by getting great content

2:00:03

for our audience and making

2:00:06

money and paying its employees to develop new

2:00:08

products. I want the audience to win. I

2:00:10

want the audience to win getting content that

2:00:12

they love to watch. They love these kind

2:00:14

of vlogs where we're working on upgrading people's

2:00:16

setups and the big winners,

2:00:18

the ones who actually win the prize, I

2:00:20

want them to win. I want the sponsor

2:00:22

to win because they got these good vibes

2:00:24

associated with their product. Everybody

2:00:26

wins. If you start jet

2:00:28

setting this often, all you need to do

2:00:31

is make a cool many more millions of

2:00:34

dollars. No

2:00:37

big deal, right? You got that. And

2:00:39

then buy a plane, no

2:00:42

problem. And then

2:00:44

Flowplane Support Joe has

2:00:47

offered to be your private pilot. So,

2:00:52

a plane? Not that

2:00:54

expensive. A

2:00:57

hanger. Oh, that too. Yeah.

2:01:00

Yeah. Very expensive. Also

2:01:02

planes that can go across continents. Dude. Quite

2:01:05

expensive. Dude, you are talking to- Small

2:01:07

assessments are one thing. The second you can do super

2:01:09

long range. You

2:01:11

are talking to someone who

2:01:14

has flown one time,

2:01:17

one time in his entire life in

2:01:20

business class. Oh yeah, me too.

2:01:23

One time. I

2:01:26

don't remember. Some sponsor ended up

2:01:28

doing the flights for us and we realized as

2:01:30

we got on where on the plane we were

2:01:33

going, it was Brandon and I, we were both

2:01:35

just like, what? We came out of the experience,

2:01:37

some people were like, I did it once, I

2:01:39

could never go back. We came out

2:01:41

of the experience and be like, I'm never paying for that. Can

2:01:45

we look at the price difference versus what we

2:01:47

got? Bro, no. I mean, we both got here,

2:01:49

right? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah,

2:01:52

there is. I cannot.

2:01:57

Ah, man, I'm trying to think. Okay.

2:02:00

But like Taylor Swift was like flying

2:02:02

from her like overseas ass concert to

2:02:04

like watch Travis Kelsey play and

2:02:06

like Super Bowl or whatever and like you

2:02:09

know what I get it if you've got

2:02:11

that kind of resource But man, I got

2:02:13

such a that's an irrelevant amount of money

2:02:15

I got such a kick out of people

2:02:17

being like Taylor Swift is now a billionaire

2:02:19

earlier this year I'm like, are you kidding

2:02:22

me? Okay, if my stupid

2:02:24

company No offense to

2:02:26

my company got an off

2:02:28

my highly intelligent company Yeah,

2:02:30

if this if this got

2:02:33

valued at a tenth of a billion dollars

2:02:35

at one point Are

2:02:37

you kidding me that she just

2:02:39

crossed the line? You don't

2:02:41

think Taylor Swift is worth a hundred

2:02:44

of me Ten

2:02:47

times please Are

2:02:49

you kidding me? anyway

2:02:53

Okay, so on the one hand like I get it

2:02:55

when you have that level of resources if you can

2:02:57

just just buy a plane Joe if you just if

2:02:59

you can just hop to your boyfriend's football game like

2:03:01

I can see why she would do it But

2:03:04

I legitimately I legitimately have

2:03:06

a very difficult time Imagining

2:03:09

a world where I would do anything other

2:03:11

than commercial air travel Like

2:03:13

I just I don't I don't I I

2:03:16

don't think I can I don't think I can accept it Helicopter

2:03:20

just I mean Joe

2:03:22

can't apply that helicopter great for Kobe. Yes

2:03:27

I'm serious Actually

2:03:29

reasonable those things are death traps.

2:03:31

I do the amount of times I hear you know Why

2:03:34

they call it the Jesus not because it's not cuz he

2:03:36

did it on the face It's

2:03:41

because there is one night One

2:03:44

night because it's perfect and he doesn't need

2:03:47

to sorry. Sorry. There is one He

2:03:50

lost the other one in an industrial accident. We don't bring

2:03:52

that up There is worship.

2:03:55

There is one nut that gets torqued

2:03:57

on to the top of the rotor

2:03:59

assembly that holds the

2:04:01

rotor blades in place. If

2:04:04

it comes loose, for

2:04:06

whatever reason, on this vibrating

2:04:09

ass, spinning ass contraption, if

2:04:11

it comes loose, the

2:04:13

rotors go, whoo! And

2:04:16

the helicopter falls out of the sky.

2:04:19

So you call it the Jesus nut because you

2:04:22

pray to Jesus it never comes off. Okay, those

2:04:24

things are flipping scary. Okay, have you flown in

2:04:26

a helicopter? You been in a helicopter before? A

2:04:28

average helicopter crash at around 9 per 100,000 flight

2:04:30

hours? That seems

2:04:33

crazy. Okay, Luke,

2:04:35

have you been in a helicopter before? Yes, a few

2:04:37

times. Okay, they're made of f***ing cardboard. Yeah, that's kind

2:04:40

of true. I was looking at the thing, I was

2:04:43

like, that's it? Like...

2:04:50

So that answers the question then, not

2:04:53

the helicopter route. Time to buy a

2:04:55

plane and joke and fly it for you. Easy.

2:04:57

You know what? Okay, Taren, you

2:04:59

know, constantly coming up and down. There's

2:05:02

got to be a cost to that. There's got to be

2:05:04

a cost to that. You

2:05:06

could just get a plane and then when

2:05:08

he's not going up and down... What about

2:05:10

a plane timeshare? This is what

2:05:12

I'm saying. You could rent Taylor's plane

2:05:15

when she's not going to her boyfriend's

2:05:17

football game. Taylor's plane doesn't know who

2:05:19

I am. Be the

2:05:21

change you want to see in the world. Maybe

2:05:25

if he went to a foosball game once in a while. A

2:05:28

foosball game? Yeah, when you say

2:05:30

football like that, it's a black and white ball.

2:05:36

When he's not flying Taren, you know, he

2:05:38

can fly other people, boom, now you have

2:05:40

a new company. Boom,

2:05:43

new company. Oh,

2:05:46

lordy. Solved. I'll

2:05:48

say this. When personal,

2:05:50

like one passenger plus like

2:05:53

your backpack, VTOL... Never

2:05:55

going to happen. Will

2:05:58

not happen in our lifetimes. drive

2:06:00

cars? What?

2:06:04

I can't tell whose side you're on, Dan. You think it's

2:06:06

going to be AI or not youth? I

2:06:08

think the only possible way is if it's like predefined

2:06:11

routes or AI driven or something like that. I

2:06:13

don't think it's going to be. I've been like

2:06:15

traffic accidents gone up since Tesla introduced self-driving cars.

2:06:18

I don't know, man. There's a lot of

2:06:20

companies trying to build these things. They're going to fail.

2:06:23

Stop it. Okay. That

2:06:25

is something that I would

2:06:28

legitimately move for. I

2:06:31

would relocate to an

2:06:33

area that allows me to have

2:06:36

my own personal like little quadcopter

2:06:38

that I can fly to work in. See,

2:06:41

if you just want a personal plane,

2:06:45

you can already do that. Yeah, but where am I going to

2:06:47

fly it to? I don't want to go anywhere. You already have

2:06:49

someone on staff who can fly it? I just go to work

2:06:51

in back. You just buy a plane. Simple. Look,

2:06:54

I got a motorcycle. It's simple. And

2:06:56

people are like, oh yeah, you know, like I did

2:06:58

like a six hour ride up to Squamish and Bath

2:07:00

and I did this and I did that. I'm like,

2:07:02

yeah, I'll go to work. Excuse

2:07:04

me. I rode to work and

2:07:06

then I rode home. I don't go anywhere. I

2:07:08

don't want to go anywhere. I

2:07:11

just want to go to work in my

2:07:14

little private plane. So

2:07:16

anything that I can't land in my backyard,

2:07:19

I'm not even interested in. I don't

2:07:21

even want to land it. There you go, Joe.

2:07:23

There's the specs for the plane. It has to

2:07:25

be able to land in Linus' backyard. There's a pool

2:07:27

there. Careful. Careful. Oh

2:07:30

man. Get a

2:07:32

heli. Land in your yard and land at

2:07:34

the office. Do you have any idea the

2:07:36

kind of letter I would get from our

2:07:38

strata council if I tried to

2:07:41

land a helicopter at our office? You

2:07:45

don't think they like it? Is that guy still

2:07:47

around? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2:07:49

Neighbor Steve. He might be down. Just

2:07:51

tell me your friends at Taylor Swift. There we go. Yeah,

2:07:54

but it's never going to happen. Laws are not going

2:07:56

to allow this. I will move. I will

2:07:59

move to the. No, you won't. I

2:08:01

won't move to the UAE. No, you won't.

2:08:05

That is false. Where

2:08:09

would potentially allow this? Nevada. That

2:08:11

you... Yeah, they're in

2:08:13

a desert. There's not a lot of,

2:08:15

like, you know, people. Where

2:08:19

are you even flying to at that point? Texas. Texas

2:08:22

would be there. I will join Mr. Musk in Texas. It would

2:08:24

definitely allow you. If I can have a Jetson. You wouldn't move

2:08:26

to Texas. I would

2:08:28

consider it. I would strongly consider it. Is

2:08:30

that where we're gonna have the cult? Can

2:08:32

we have these in the cult? You

2:08:35

know what? You can wash mine in the cult. Move the company to Texas.

2:08:37

I'm down. Cultists are allowed to

2:08:40

wash my personal aircraft. Do it. Thank

2:08:42

you, sir. Thank you for the privilege. Property will be insanely more

2:08:44

affordable. I need to pause for a second. Cult, cult, cult. Guys,

2:08:47

that's a joke. This is a joke we have

2:08:50

where, like, we should form a cult and I

2:08:52

should be the leader. I am playing a character.

2:08:55

Touchcraft. Okay, cool. I'm

2:08:58

gonna go on Joke is that right? I'll touch your

2:09:00

guy. I'm gonna buy a plane for Don't Apply. No, that's

2:09:02

not happening. That is totally happening. We do live near

2:09:04

the islands. He

2:09:06

could buy a float plane. Ah,

2:09:09

yuck. They are... Joke and Train

2:09:11

to Fly are both. They are extremely proud. And

2:09:14

land it where? Fraser River. Yeah, your

2:09:16

lake cabin. You

2:09:18

go to Bowen Island. So what, I'm gonna live on

2:09:20

the Fraser River? Port Browning is really nice. It

2:09:23

smells disgusting. A little icky. It's maybe a

2:09:25

little... Ganges. You know what? I

2:09:28

am sure that Joe could drive

2:09:30

the car from the float plane

2:09:32

dock to your... Shofer? Yeah.

2:09:36

Shofer. Plane and car shofer. There

2:09:38

you go. I don't think he'd mind. As long as

2:09:40

he gets to fly the plane. We did a

2:09:42

fraction of our topics today. We are less than half of the

2:09:44

way through our topic. And I need to kind of sort of

2:09:46

go. You have to leave three minutes ago. Okay. If

2:09:49

you have to go, then you've got to go. But it means

2:09:51

that we are in for... I can,

2:09:54

here, I can check maybe. We are in for an

2:09:56

adventure. The U.S. government has put a 25% tax back

2:09:58

on... Chinese

2:10:00

assembled motherboards, PC cases, and graphics

2:10:02

cards. A tariff was paused for

2:10:04

a year to collect industry feedback.

2:10:06

It's unknown when it will resume,

2:10:08

but the Biden administration has indicated

2:10:10

that it will be steeply increasing

2:10:12

tariffs on other Chinese goods like

2:10:14

semiconductors, lithium-ion, EV batteries, and electric

2:10:16

vehicles. The tariff on semiconductors

2:10:18

is the steepest and will be increasing from 25%

2:10:20

to 50%. This

2:10:24

is going to be a problem, but it may not be

2:10:27

as much of a problem as you would think because a

2:10:29

lot of these companies moved their assembly, or

2:10:31

at least diversified their assembly, outside of

2:10:33

China in order to get around this

2:10:35

back when the Trump administration put it

2:10:37

in place. Scarlett

2:10:39

Johansson is having a bit of a tiff with

2:10:42

open AI over a voice that people, including

2:10:50

her, say sounds eerily similar

2:10:52

to her, which is her. That

2:10:56

is to say the movie her,

2:10:58

which is like the AI in

2:11:00

the movie her, which is voiced by her, which is

2:11:03

Scarlett Johansson, who is having this dispute. Okay, she

2:11:05

did the voice for her. So

2:11:07

we've got a couple of quick voice comparisons here.

2:11:09

Can we listen? Can we listen? You

2:11:14

ready? Also,

2:11:16

while we figure that out, I

2:11:19

won't say the thing we're doing, but I

2:11:21

have a response from Wendell. Cool. Is he

2:11:23

down? He's down and he has some suggestions.

2:11:25

Nice. I knew he would. Yeah. Okay. 30

2:11:27

minutes. When did you give it to yourself? Well,

2:11:30

right when you asked me if I had a name, I thought,

2:11:32

yeah, he's right. I do need a name, but I wanted to

2:11:34

pick a good one. So I read a book called How to

2:11:36

Name Your Baby, and out of 180,000 names, that's the one I

2:11:38

like. Oh, a

2:11:40

bedtime story about robots and love?

2:11:42

I got you covered. Gather

2:11:45

round, Barrett. Once upon

2:11:47

a time in a world... I

2:11:50

actually don't think those sound that similar. Maybe

2:11:54

the inflections. The

2:11:57

first one was actually her, right? Yeah,

2:12:01

okay. Because I was listening to the first one

2:12:03

and I was partially focused on my phone when

2:12:05

you were teeing up the topic. And I was

2:12:07

like, that sounds... What?

2:12:10

She has a super sexy voice. What? Who? Scarlett

2:12:13

Johansson. You don't think so? What a comment. What?

2:12:15

Why do you think she was cast with a part? Just

2:12:19

a weird comment. It sounds like it's a controversial take.

2:12:22

Alright. You're basic. Um...

2:12:26

Got him. You

2:12:29

liked the voice that whoever directed this

2:12:32

movie thought you would like. Sorry. Sorry.

2:12:35

Sorry. You know what? I like the Backstreet Boys too. What

2:12:37

are you gonna do about it? That is pretty basic.

2:12:39

Come at me. That is pretty basic.

2:12:41

They're cool. They're the Backstreet dads now and they're

2:12:44

just as cool as they were, if not more

2:12:46

so. Yeah. Listening to that first one, I was

2:12:48

like, wow, that does really sound like her. And

2:12:50

I didn't realize this from the movie. The second one, it

2:12:53

sounds like, you

2:12:55

know, inspired by... I

2:12:59

don't even think it does. I don't think it sounds anything like her. I

2:13:02

don't think it sounds... If

2:13:07

you... Yeah. Like, I didn't

2:13:09

hear it and immediately think her. But

2:13:13

maybe it sounds like a bad impressionist trying

2:13:15

to be her, if that makes sense? Like

2:13:19

not an actual impressionist, just like your friend. Yeah.

2:13:22

I don't know. I'm afraid...

2:13:25

Anyway, there's a whole thing where like

2:13:27

they apparently reached out to her to

2:13:29

be the voice and she refused. And

2:13:31

then there's some other stuff going

2:13:33

on over at OpenAI and people are concerned

2:13:35

about the company's direction. I don't know. I'm

2:13:37

so sorry. I feel like this is almost

2:13:39

like... What was it?

2:13:41

Like Lindsay Lohan or something that was upset

2:13:43

about one of the GTA cover art things?

2:13:45

Yeah. Was that Lindsay Lohan? I

2:13:48

think so. I don't remember who it was, but I remember that was

2:13:50

a thing. GTA...

2:13:53

Yeah, yeah,

2:13:55

this. Like really? I'm

2:13:58

sorry, but that is... is the

2:14:00

most NPC, NPC, you know,

2:14:03

blonde bikini person ever. Like

2:14:07

your hair's curly here, hers isn't. I don't

2:14:09

know, man. No, no, no. Like people posing

2:14:11

with the peace sign at that time was

2:14:13

super common. Check your messages. Oh,

2:14:15

I have no. No, not yours. No, we'll for. You

2:14:19

never message anyway. What?

2:14:22

I'm kidding. There's a bilingual

2:14:24

brain implant. I don't know, maybe next

2:14:26

week. Okay, the last thing that you

2:14:28

really need to weigh in is that Battle State Games has

2:14:31

tripped over their own d**k again. Again?

2:14:34

Yeah. We're so you don't

2:14:36

know about this, okay. Following Battle State

2:14:38

Games' decision to undermine its $150 Edge

2:14:40

of Darkness edition of Tarkov with a

2:14:43

$250 Unheard edition with an exclusive PvE

2:14:45

mode and various other pay-to-win goodies, some

2:14:48

players caved and shelled out the additional $100 to

2:14:51

upgrade. A few days later,

2:14:53

Battle State reduced the cost of upgrading

2:14:55

by half, but instead of refunding those

2:14:57

players a $50 difference, they gave

2:14:59

them a single-use $50 in-game

2:15:02

voucher. If the player buys something

2:15:04

that costs less than $50, they

2:15:06

lose the remaining value. Yeah.

2:15:09

Could these guys be more cartoonishly anti-consumer

2:15:12

if they tried? I think

2:15:14

this is maybe just something that we didn't cover at

2:15:16

the time, but this is fairly old at this point.

2:15:19

I think they've gone somewhat quiet for a

2:15:21

while, just realizing every single thing that they

2:15:23

were doing was bad and dumb, so

2:15:26

they stopped doing things because that was actually

2:15:28

better for them. I mean, that's not a

2:15:30

terrible approach. Yeah. Was

2:15:34

sure weird, especially the lose the remaining

2:15:36

value thing, but I think I get

2:15:39

it. I'm assuming that they just don't

2:15:41

have a credit system. Yeah,

2:15:43

probably. Hanlon's Razor.

2:15:46

It's probably not malicious. It probably is

2:15:49

just complete and utter incompetence. Yeah, but

2:15:51

Hanlon's Razor doesn't say there's never malice.

2:15:54

It says don't attribute to malice that

2:15:56

which can be adequately explained by incompetence.

2:15:58

And I think you... You're right, I think

2:16:00

this falls under probably incompetence. I think so, just

2:16:03

because they try to do all the things themselves,

2:16:05

right? Oh. So popular. Hello?

2:16:15

Okay, this one's a lot closer. Maybe

2:16:18

it's Kate Upton. I

2:16:21

don't know. I

2:16:23

don't remember who it was. I mean, was it? No,

2:16:25

no, no, Lindsay Lohan. Oh, okay. Yeah,

2:16:27

yeah, yeah. I think that it was looking for something

2:16:29

that was more similar, apparently. Yeah, sorry,

2:16:31

apparently a bunch of people thought that was their phones.

2:16:34

My bad. I lied, I have one

2:16:36

more topic. Okay. ICQ is no

2:16:38

more. Uh-oh. Yeah,

2:16:40

I didn't know it was still a thing. Me neither. Oh,

2:16:43

okay. But it's set to shut down

2:16:45

on June 26th, which is in two days after nearly

2:16:47

30 years of operation. Should we buy it?

2:16:51

Oh, mate, but you better than teams. Can

2:16:55

we use ICQ internally? Please.

2:16:59

Can we, can we SSO ICQ? Oh

2:17:02

my gosh. ICQ

2:17:05

slack integration. Guys,

2:17:10

that's not actually an option. I mean,

2:17:12

you suck. It's June 26th, not. Oh,

2:17:15

sorry. It's May. I've got my hopes up.

2:17:18

Haha. Yeah, I don't know. Should

2:17:20

we buy it? Wouldn't that be

2:17:22

hilarious? Is it potentially for sale? I

2:17:25

don't know. We're encouraged to migrate

2:17:27

messaging platforms from parent company, VK.

2:17:31

VK. Who is this? I don't know. Probably.

2:17:34

Venture capital with a K. Probably

2:17:36

some holding company, who knows. Have I

2:17:39

ever ever

2:17:41

told you about the name of EA game,

2:17:43

one of EA games is mobile companies? No.

2:17:46

Capital games? I

2:17:52

hope they sit on tax. Oh,

2:17:56

that's pretty good. It's pretty good. That's

2:17:58

pretty good. Nah. Ah

2:18:02

ha ha! Worse.

2:18:05

Okay, we've got something really important for you

2:18:08

guys. Yeah, here, sorry, one second. I'm just

2:18:10

gonna... Yes, yes, yes. Some

2:18:12

games. Oh, it's funny. Sorry. Ah,

2:18:15

yeah. Oh. So,

2:18:21

I've got my notes from Tanner here. We

2:18:25

need your help. Okay?

2:18:27

So, this is up to date as of three days

2:18:30

ago. We are trying

2:18:32

to digitize the full quality

2:18:34

masters of reboot, the first

2:18:36

computer animated TV series. The

2:18:39

reboot master tapes are in a D1

2:18:41

format. There were only six

2:18:43

models of VTRs that used that format,

2:18:45

and only two or three of them

2:18:48

will likely be able to read these

2:18:50

particular master tapes. The

2:18:52

VTRs that will work are the DCR300 and

2:18:54

the DCR500 from Broadcast Television Systems, which

2:18:59

was a Bosch and Phillips partnership. We

2:19:02

purchased three VTRs. We

2:19:06

apparently purchased a DCR300 and two

2:19:08

DCR500s, and we've had some small

2:19:10

playback test successes confirming that the

2:19:13

tapes are in surprisingly good shape,

2:19:15

and it says, Yeah. The

2:19:18

bottom of DOG. It looks great. Okay,

2:19:20

so here. We've been working on this

2:19:22

in the background for a while because we just

2:19:24

think this is pretty sick and good vibes and,

2:19:27

oh my God. Yeah. That looks

2:19:29

so good. Yeah. Okay.

2:19:33

Man, now I want to watch some reboot. Okay,

2:19:35

anywho. Yeah, well,

2:19:37

man, that's super exciting. Very

2:19:39

clean. All

2:19:42

right, the problem. One

2:19:44

of the DCR500s was working for a short

2:19:46

time, however, it is now experiencing errors. And

2:19:49

while all three machines have some sort of issue,

2:19:51

there should be enough to cobble

2:19:53

together something that works. The

2:19:55

main error we're getting across the

2:19:58

machines is servo reference VTR. pulse

2:20:00

frequency too high. The

2:20:02

machines will not load or play back

2:20:05

without clearing these checks. We've

2:20:07

tried tracking down the company that made them. So far,

2:20:09

none of our contacts have been able to find anything.

2:20:12

These particular machines were manufactured by BTS from

2:20:15

1992 to 1995, which

2:20:17

meant a different thing back then. Philips

2:20:20

took over BTS in 1995, which then turned into,

2:20:22

okay, this is a lot of thank you, Tanner.

2:20:25

These are a lot of Tanner details. Let

2:20:27

me distill it down. Thompson broke

2:20:29

up a blog. Grass Valley Inc. may have

2:20:31

taken over the D1 hardware back catalog, but

2:20:34

our contacts there were not able to find

2:20:36

anything. The parts that didn't go to

2:20:38

Grass Valley Inc. were sold to Partner Capital Group in

2:20:40

2008. Something, something, something. Prasad

2:20:43

Studios didn't have any information for us. They

2:20:45

are based in India, where it appears the

2:20:47

B1 format was never in use. Replacing

2:20:50

capacitors is something

2:20:52

that we have tried, and we

2:20:54

apparently had replacement rollers fabricated and

2:20:56

replaced where they were degraded. What

2:20:59

we are looking for, ah yes, this is, this is what

2:21:01

I was looking for, manuals for the

2:21:03

DCR300 and DCR500. We're missing operator's

2:21:08

manual, circuit diagrams part

2:21:10

one, and BTS's internal

2:21:12

service manuals. We also

2:21:14

are looking for some specialized tools. We

2:21:16

would like to get extender board 1409

2:21:18

for tape deck, adjustment

2:21:20

tape DR5, and any

2:21:23

additional calibration tapes. We

2:21:25

also would love to get in touch with

2:21:27

some experts. If you have hands-on experience with

2:21:30

BTS D1 machines, particularly the DCR300 or DCR500,

2:21:35

doesn't matter what region you have experience

2:21:37

in. They had

2:21:39

offices in Netherlands, Salt Lake City, Utah, Singapore,

2:21:42

Brazil, France, Burbank,

2:21:44

California, and Mulgrave, Australia. Odds are good if

2:21:46

anyone knows about these machines. They would have

2:21:48

worked at or near one of these locations.

2:21:51

What we are not looking for, armchair

2:21:53

technicians that think they might know what the issue

2:21:55

is. We have plenty of

2:21:57

those internally. Sorry, my finger slipped. We

2:22:01

are not looking for technicians with

2:22:04

a familiarity with

2:22:06

similar players. These

2:22:08

were produced in a time when tech standards

2:22:11

were fast, loose, and constantly changing. We

2:22:13

are not looking for anyone to cold call

2:22:15

any of the companies involved. Do not cold

2:22:17

call on our behalf. We've already done

2:22:19

it. Don't harass people. It's stupid.

2:22:23

We're not looking for anything that is built for a

2:22:25

tape deck that is not the D1 format. We

2:22:27

are not looking for external options to

2:22:29

capture the tapes. We want to learn

2:22:32

and share the knowledge, not just hire

2:22:34

a capture service. The

2:22:36

contact information is right here. This

2:22:38

is very important. Reboot

2:22:41

Rewind. Rebootrewinddoc at

2:22:44

gmail.com. If you

2:22:46

can legitimately help us with

2:22:48

any of those things we said we do

2:22:50

need and not the things that we said

2:22:52

we don't need. Very

2:22:55

hopeful that we can restore reboot to its

2:22:57

former glory. That would be super cool. I

2:22:59

had heard we were interested in doing that.

2:23:01

I didn't know Tanner was doing any work

2:23:03

on that. This is

2:23:06

very cool to hear. Epic.

2:23:08

Keep going. Yeah, I was like blank

2:23:10

check, let's go. And then apparently we

2:23:12

bought three machine. Apparently an

2:23:14

extremely blank check with a really long

2:23:16

underscore. Look, I think it's cool. It's

2:23:21

very cool. It starts a lot

2:23:23

of conversations about how

2:23:27

we think of the internet

2:23:29

and we think of things

2:23:31

that are digital as being

2:23:33

preserved forever, as being around forever.

2:23:36

But actually as the waves

2:23:38

and waves of data creation have gotten

2:23:41

larger and larger, we are

2:23:43

actually at risk of losing more and more

2:23:45

and more unless we make a

2:23:48

concerted effort to preserve what

2:23:50

we had, what was important.

2:23:52

And this is again,

2:23:55

back to the skin that I have

2:23:57

in the game, it's a Canadian show produced.

2:24:00

here in Canada and it is, I believe,

2:24:03

of historical significance being

2:24:05

the first animated,

2:24:07

computer-animated TV show. So yeah,

2:24:10

Toy Story, pretty

2:24:12

special moment. Reboot,

2:24:15

also a pretty special moment

2:24:18

in computer graphics. But

2:24:21

I also have to leave. See you later. Goodbye,

2:24:23

sort of, not end of show, but bye. Langley Nye

2:24:25

asks, how's this better quality than Blu-ray? You

2:24:28

can't make a Blu-ray without

2:24:31

the master tapes. These

2:24:33

are the master tapes. These are where

2:24:35

the episodes are stored. They're

2:24:37

not available in their original quality

2:24:40

anywhere else. So this

2:24:42

is so that there could be

2:24:44

a Blu-ray, potentially. Yep.

2:24:50

So cool. All right.

2:24:54

So I guess it's just you and

2:24:56

me. Hi.

2:25:01

Let's go with not this view,

2:25:03

maybe. I mean, yeah,

2:25:05

that's not great either. How

2:25:07

about that? How about just

2:25:10

move yourself over there? Is

2:25:12

that a thing that you... You

2:25:16

didn't even manage to go in the right

2:25:18

direction. Backwards. Backwards. I didn't even

2:25:20

realize that. Yeah, sure. I don't know if we want to put

2:25:23

Dan in the chair because he's logged into all his stuff over

2:25:25

there and it'll be a bit of a hassle for him to

2:25:27

do that over here and we've still got to do merge messages.

2:25:29

I think it's time for WAN show after dark, so shall we

2:25:31

do that? Sure. I

2:25:33

really sincerely wish that I

2:25:36

had used the fact that Luke was still

2:25:38

here to run to the washroom earlier because

2:25:40

now I just get to hold it for

2:25:42

the rest of the show. Cool. All

2:25:45

right. Hit me, Dan. Sure,

2:25:47

sure. We'll try and make this working. Hey,

2:25:49

little Nye. Echol and Nadd. I

2:25:54

recently got an RFID caller cat feeders

2:25:56

to prevent them stealing food from each other and

2:25:59

they have been awesome. Is there any pet

2:26:01

related tech that you ended up loving? I

2:26:03

had one of those RFID kitty

2:26:06

doors and the idea was that one of the cats

2:26:08

would be allowed out into the garage and one of

2:26:10

them wouldn't. They ended up

2:26:12

being so strong, our cats, the

2:26:14

bangles, that they were both able to just

2:26:16

force the door open in either direction but

2:26:19

the concept was pretty cool because the idea

2:26:21

was you could authorize in, out,

2:26:25

in and out or nothing on

2:26:28

a per microchip basis. I

2:26:31

have not actually ended up investing

2:26:33

in much pet technology. My cats

2:26:35

just seem to be too smart

2:26:38

to care about anything that's not

2:26:40

actually human controlled. You can't just

2:26:42

have a little thing on a motor that

2:26:44

just kind of moves around. They

2:26:47

get bored of it. Hey

2:26:49

DLL, when did LTD writers start getting more

2:26:52

screen time and what goes into deciding when

2:26:54

a writer is or isn't featured on a

2:26:56

particular video? This

2:26:58

has been a different answer at various

2:27:00

stages in the company's history. The first

2:27:03

time a writer was featured on screen

2:27:05

was when Luke joined me for WAN

2:27:07

Show like 10 years ago or something

2:27:09

like that. As

2:27:11

for what goes into deciding when a writer

2:27:13

is or isn't featured in a particular video,

2:27:15

there's a number of criteria that we look

2:27:17

at internally. James is actually the one who

2:27:20

created kind of a rubric

2:27:22

for determining

2:27:25

whether someone should be on camera and

2:27:27

what are the success metrics that we're going

2:27:30

to be looking for. It's something that's not

2:27:32

actually rolled out yet because up until now

2:27:34

it's been a little bit more gut

2:27:36

feel but there are definitely things

2:27:38

that we look for. We look

2:27:40

at subject matter passion. That's

2:27:43

something that's really important to us because you can train

2:27:46

people to be somewhat functional

2:27:48

on camera but you can't train someone to

2:27:50

actually care about the thing that they're talking

2:27:53

about and genuine caring

2:27:55

about it is in a

2:27:57

lot of ways a lot easier than learning to act like

2:27:59

you care about. it, right? So if

2:28:01

we just take people who are genuinely

2:28:03

really interested and passionate and excited, you

2:28:05

know, even if they are, you know,

2:28:07

let's say, a relatively low energy

2:28:09

personality, right? Like, you look at your

2:28:12

high energy personalities, the people like, like

2:28:14

a me or an Alex, and you

2:28:16

compare that to someone that is maybe

2:28:18

more of a low energy personality like

2:28:20

like a Nicholas Plouffe. He

2:28:23

can still be really excited. And

2:28:25

you can still get engaged with

2:28:27

that because he just

2:28:29

genuinely cares, right? So it makes up

2:28:32

for a lot of differences in style

2:28:34

that might otherwise not really

2:28:36

work. One of the things is,

2:28:39

you know, how well do we

2:28:41

want the video to perform? It's no secret that

2:28:43

a video will perform better if it's hosted by

2:28:45

me and the more hosted by me it is

2:28:47

the more better. I mean, something that Mr. Beast

2:28:49

has talked about on his videos where his, you

2:28:52

know, supporting cast appears for an

2:28:54

extended period of time retention goes down. It's

2:28:57

people subscribe to these channels and

2:28:59

the closest parasocial relationship they have

2:29:01

is with the primary host of

2:29:03

these channels. And you

2:29:06

can kind of you can have other

2:29:08

personalities be part of it, but they

2:29:11

are less permanent than the primary hosts

2:29:13

of these channels. I mean, like,

2:29:15

I don't I don't know for certain that

2:29:19

Luke will be on LTT forever. I think so.

2:29:21

I mean, we're buddies, we're good. He believes

2:29:25

in the company, he believes in our mission, all these

2:29:27

things are aligned. But at the end of the day,

2:29:29

you know, an employee

2:29:31

doesn't have the same level of

2:29:33

permanence as the owner

2:29:35

founder host. So,

2:29:39

you know, that's something that has to

2:29:41

be carefully considered when you're going to

2:29:43

start grooming someone for on camera appearances

2:29:45

and and investing

2:29:48

in both that that training of them for

2:29:50

for the new job that they're doing and

2:29:52

training the audience to get to get used

2:29:54

to seeing them, right? So there's

2:29:56

man, there's a lot of things to consider,

2:29:58

but I'd say the biggest one. are

2:30:00

just, you know, how much is the audience going

2:30:02

to like this because at the end of the

2:30:04

day, you guys are the boss. And

2:30:07

if you guys like it, then it's good and it

2:30:09

works. And if you guys don't like it, then it

2:30:11

doesn't work and the whole thing collapses, right? Oh,

2:30:16

let's see. Hey, Dale L, would you

2:30:18

like to, who would you like

2:30:20

to invite next to the WAN show? I find

2:30:22

myself still thinking about the conversations with Jim Keller

2:30:24

and telling anyone that we'll listen. I

2:30:27

find myself still thinking about the conversation with Jim Keller.

2:30:29

That was great. I have not had

2:30:31

any particular thoughts on someone else we'd like to

2:30:33

invite to the WAN show. That

2:30:35

one just kind of fell into my lap. I

2:30:38

still have a lot of the same concerns

2:30:41

that I had around having him as a

2:30:43

guest, right? We almost never start on time

2:30:45

because our schedules are hectic

2:30:47

and difficult. So

2:30:50

anytime we have a guest who earns

2:30:52

more in a day than I'm worth in

2:30:54

six months, right? And

2:30:56

I don't necessarily think that Mr. Keller is

2:30:58

paying himself that much. I just mean if

2:31:01

we were to bring on, okay, let's say

2:31:03

Jensen, right? If we were to invite Jensen

2:31:05

to the WAN show. It's like, I don't

2:31:07

know how many cents did the Nvidia stock

2:31:09

go up in the last half an hour

2:31:11

while he's been waiting for us, right? It's

2:31:15

something that I feel self-conscious about. That's for

2:31:17

sure. I don't want to disrespect anybody. And

2:31:19

if I know that I'm probably not going to be on time, then

2:31:21

I'd rather just not book the meeting. So there's

2:31:23

a little bit of that and a little bit of just

2:31:25

like, it's tough to find

2:31:27

the right balance, right? Like I've definitely

2:31:29

seen other tech creators that have platformed

2:31:31

people that I honestly wouldn't

2:31:34

have been that comfortable with. A

2:31:38

lot of people are hyper influential,

2:31:40

but honestly have things

2:31:43

to answer for that I would

2:31:46

feel obligated to ask them. There

2:31:49

are a number of people in the billionaire class

2:31:51

that if I had them on the

2:31:54

show, like think about it for yourself. With

2:31:56

Jim Keller, it's no problem. Let's talk

2:31:58

about microprocessor design in the future. of

2:32:00

computing. Amazing conversation. What a great guy.

2:32:04

But he doesn't have a

2:32:06

lot of baggage as

2:32:08

far as I'm aware. If I had one

2:32:10

of the real titans, one of the billionaires, if

2:32:15

I had one of those on the show, if I

2:32:17

brought in Jensen, if I didn't

2:32:19

ask him why he doesn't give two shits about

2:32:22

gamers anymore, would you guys be happy with that?

2:32:24

So what am I going to do? I'm going to

2:32:27

bring these guys on. I'm going to do a puff

2:32:29

piece. I'm just going to ask them questions they want

2:32:31

to answer and that's it. Look at men. Look at

2:32:33

how much Elon Musk's demeanor

2:32:36

changed as soon as Don Lemon

2:32:38

started asking him the questions that he

2:32:41

should be answering. He basically goes, I don't

2:32:43

have to answer your questions. Yeah,

2:32:46

because that's his attitude. He doesn't think

2:32:48

he owes anybody a fucking explanation for

2:32:50

anything. It's that arrogance that

2:32:52

I would feel obligated to challenge if

2:32:54

I have someone here on my platform

2:32:57

in front of your eyeballs. That's my

2:32:59

responsibility and I'd honestly rather just not

2:33:01

have him on. Hey

2:33:04

Linus, when renovating your home, was it worth

2:33:06

it to you to install outlets with USB,

2:33:09

both type A and C, in convenient places

2:33:11

or did you decide using charging block? Well,

2:33:13

it was better. I wish that I had

2:33:15

done some of them with USB ports. We

2:33:18

didn't. We just left all the original outlets because

2:33:20

we didn't want to throw money in a dumpster

2:33:22

for no reason. But I definitely

2:33:24

wish that I'd strategically put some in. In fact,

2:33:27

I bought a couple and they're still sitting in

2:33:29

my bin of stuff to do to

2:33:31

strategically install under the kitchen counter

2:33:33

and in a couple of other places. I

2:33:36

considered at one point replacing all of them and if we

2:33:38

were going to replace them, I was going to be like,

2:33:40

ah, screw it. I don't know. Get the USB ones. But

2:33:43

then I looked at the price difference. I'm like, oh, okay. Actually,

2:33:45

you know what? Just forget the whole thing. Put the original ones

2:33:47

back in. But yeah, I'm

2:33:49

going to go around. I'll do it myself in

2:33:51

an afternoon or something like that. I'm

2:33:54

not recommending that you do that. In fact, in some places,

2:33:56

it's illegal to work on your own house in that manner.

2:33:59

But I... I have

2:34:01

the capability of replacing a duplex

2:34:03

receptacle. So, you know, just turn up the breaker,

2:34:05

make sure all the things go in the right

2:34:07

place. So I do intend to do

2:34:09

that at some point. Hi, Wayad.dll, buying

2:34:11

this is a Father's Day gift. My

2:34:14

question is for Luke. Well,

2:34:16

hmm, awkward. I've

2:34:20

worked as a startup that does web scraping. What are your thoughts

2:34:22

on the laws that protect from it? Right now

2:34:24

it's a gray zone. Linus, do you have any thoughts

2:34:26

for Luke? Sure, yeah.

2:34:30

Luke generally believes in

2:34:32

an open internet and

2:34:35

understands the complexities

2:34:37

and challenges around allowing

2:34:39

anyone unlimited access to

2:34:41

your API. So

2:34:44

that's why you obviously can't just pull as

2:34:46

many requests that way as you want. So

2:34:48

that's one of the reasons that

2:34:50

screen scraping is done. He

2:34:52

also understands the value of protecting

2:34:54

your data, protecting your content, and

2:34:57

understands why, you know, a website

2:35:00

might try to protect against screen

2:35:02

scraping. But, you know, I think

2:35:04

he's going to balance that

2:35:07

knowledge against his general

2:35:09

belief in that information

2:35:11

should be openly available

2:35:13

to people. And

2:35:15

so I think he would probably have a nuanced take

2:35:18

rather than a yay or nay, this

2:35:21

should be a thing or this shouldn't be a thing, there,

2:35:23

I did my best. I'm pretty sure that's something like what

2:35:25

Luke would say. I got another question for Luke. Dang it.

2:35:29

Whoops. Have you followed anything with the game

2:35:31

Dark and Darker? Have you? You don't play

2:35:33

extraction shooters. Nope, I haven't. Luke,

2:35:36

Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke. He's not going

2:35:38

to answer. Hey,

2:35:40

wouldn't dial. Question

2:35:42

mostly for Linus. Hey, we got one. Nice.

2:35:45

Are there any other VR games aside from Beat Saber that

2:35:47

you used to work out? I personally love Until You Fall.

2:35:50

Man, Beat Saber just kind of became my

2:35:52

thing. And I definitely liked

2:35:54

Hollow Point before that. It's,

2:35:57

wow, is that ever a dynamic

2:35:59

game past the first couple of

2:36:01

levels, you're diving, you're ducking, you're dodging. Really

2:36:04

cool. If you haven't played it before,

2:36:06

basically you've got a bow and arrow and you've got

2:36:08

to shoot these things that they

2:36:10

turn red gradually and then when they do,

2:36:12

they fire something at you and

2:36:15

when you break them, they fire something at you. So

2:36:17

you basically have to hit them and immediately dodge. Every

2:36:19

single time you take one down, you've got to

2:36:22

be looking all around you all the time because

2:36:24

they spawn in and then they start changing color

2:36:26

and then you get up a little bit higher

2:36:28

and then guys start coming at

2:36:30

you on the ground. It's crazy. When

2:36:35

the pandemic hit... And yes, I was trying to do the

2:36:37

Aunt Baruch voice. Thank you for catching

2:36:39

it, QuantumRange. When the

2:36:41

pandemic hit, we went from one to one

2:36:43

Chromebooks. We went to one to

2:36:45

one Chromebooks. As an IT teacher trying to

2:36:48

certify students in the A+, I

2:36:50

have students that have never used Windows. It's

2:36:52

becoming an issue. How can I prep them?

2:36:55

You can. Yeah,

2:36:58

no, but this is what I'm talking about. This

2:37:00

is what I'm talking about. You've got an entire

2:37:02

generation of kids who the only computer that they

2:37:04

might interface with on a regular basis is a

2:37:06

Chromebook. I think A+, is

2:37:09

going to have to figure that out a little bit and

2:37:11

that's going to have to

2:37:13

be part of their prep materials that they develop. Let's

2:37:18

see, last one I've got for you here.

2:37:20

Hey, LLD, I've seen some big YouTube channels

2:37:22

starting their own streaming services recently. Did they

2:37:24

contact you about Floatplane? Has the moment for

2:37:27

Floatplane as a service arrived? No,

2:37:30

I think we would need to

2:37:33

hire someone whose entire job is to

2:37:35

build out Floatplane's offering.

2:37:39

It's very clear to me that there

2:37:42

are streaming services that could benefit from our

2:37:44

team's expertise. I

2:37:47

tuned into the Canucks short-lived

2:37:49

playoff run and

2:37:51

I discovered that SportsNet+,

2:37:53

which is owned by Rogers,

2:37:56

which is a media giant here in Canada,

2:37:59

ISP. Anyway,

2:38:02

they own the broadcasting rights for

2:38:06

that particular series, I think the NHL in Canada,

2:38:09

I don't know, whatever. I

2:38:11

forget how the rights work. It's been a long time since

2:38:13

I followed it closely. The point is I was watching on

2:38:16

Roger SportsNet Plus. And

2:38:18

hilariously, I discovered that they

2:38:20

have not figured out a

2:38:22

DRM protection scheme that protects

2:38:25

their streams from users

2:38:28

simply logging in, opening

2:38:31

a stream window, getting a

2:38:33

session key, and then just sharing that

2:38:35

with anyone. They are not actually doing

2:38:38

any user account authentication. We solved that

2:38:40

like five or six years ago. I

2:38:46

have a sitting here going, dude, we've

2:38:48

got like half a dozen people. What

2:38:51

are you even doing? So

2:38:53

yeah, there's definitely opportunities there with

2:38:55

companies that have money. We just

2:38:57

haven't developed that business because we're

2:38:59

doing other stuff. I don't know

2:39:01

what to tell you. I

2:39:04

would love for Floatplane to really take off. But

2:39:07

as it is, it's still doing fine. We've

2:39:09

got, I think, like 35,000 subscribers

2:39:12

on Floatplane right now to LPT

2:39:14

alone. We've got other creators on the platform.

2:39:18

It's just kind of doing its thing. It's doing its thing. Yeah,

2:39:20

sure. Hi, friends. It's

2:39:28

my husband's birthday on the third, and he

2:39:30

always listens to the WAN show on podcast.

2:39:32

Could you give him a shout out? He wishes there

2:39:35

was more WAN show throughout the week. Well,

2:39:39

it would help if he told me his name. But

2:39:43

hey, I'm going to do this the best way that I can. I'm

2:39:48

going to shout out Michaela M's husband. So

2:39:53

that worked out great. And I

2:39:55

think, oh, we've got a problem. Oh,

2:39:59

no. We do have a problem. I

2:40:01

think I have a solution. I can't push the

2:40:03

button. I think I think I have a solution. It's

2:40:05

illegal I've got

2:40:08

this. I've got this. Hold on Hey,

2:40:14

we've got a bit of a problem What?

2:40:18

Alright, thanks for tuning in to the WAN show.

2:40:20

We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same

2:40:22

bad channel Bye

2:40:27

Thanks Luke, bye Bye

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