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But let us continue
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on with the show. Yeah, do you want
1:48
to jump right into Spotify bricking its thing?
1:50
Yeah. OK, so first of
1:52
all, I had completely forgotten about the
1:55
car thing. Yes. OK, so it's an
1:57
accessory. Forget about it. I never knew
1:59
it existed. slash infotainment device and
2:01
the idea was to be able to
2:03
have Spotify in a car that doesn't
2:05
have Android Auto or doesn't have CarPlay
2:07
or maybe you just don't feel like
2:10
using Android Auto or CarPlay and you
2:12
just wanted this dedicated device to connect
2:14
to Spotify and what's kind of cool
2:16
about it is that people weren't just
2:18
using it in their cars. I saw,
2:21
was it, I don't know, it was
2:23
someone. Someone on the internet
2:25
said that they kind of used it in
2:27
their workshop but basically it was just an
2:29
interface that allowed you to interface
2:32
with Spotify. It
2:34
was invite only and it was launched
2:36
in April of 2021 and then launched
2:39
publicly in February of 2022 for $90.
2:43
It was then pulled from sale
2:46
just five months later meaning that
2:49
many devices, many users who own
2:51
these devices have had them for
2:53
less than two years and nobody
2:55
who has one has had it
2:57
for more than about three years.
3:00
Now just this week
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Spotify, okay hold on, first
3:04
of all, Spotify began noticing
3:06
people that, they
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got notifying people that the
3:10
car thing will be discontinued
3:12
as of December 9th of
3:14
this year and it
3:17
will be rendered completely inoperable.
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So not only are they
3:22
discontinuing it, they're actually going
3:24
okay this is the date, this
3:26
is the hard date, throw
3:29
it in the garbage. It
3:31
gets better. I mean worse, sorry, worse, that
3:33
was a verbal typo, it gets worse. Spotify
3:36
is neither offering a
3:39
refund nor is
3:41
it even offering a store
3:43
f***ing credit. It is
3:45
basically going hey thanks
3:47
for your $90. We hope you
3:49
enjoyed the limited amount of time that
3:51
you had to own that product that
3:54
we, I don't know, I
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guess this is now a retroactive lease agreement.
4:01
I think you might have basically just specified
4:03
this but when was the last like when
4:05
people someone have ordered it the same day
4:07
that it was discontinued No, people
4:09
could have ordered this as recently as March April
4:11
May June July as recently as the summer of
4:13
2022 so
4:15
a little less
4:18
than two years ago That's
4:21
wild though. I don't get it. I don't
4:23
understand why like I could understand
4:25
saying like, okay We're gonna end of life this
4:28
thing. It's not gonna receive updates But
4:30
it would probably keep working for a pretty considerable
4:32
amount of time Well,
4:34
yes and no because whatever whatever
4:36
API hooks it might rely on
4:40
Maybe it doesn't and I mean, this is
4:42
a funny one to me because it is
4:44
mind-blowing to me my understanding and guys correct
4:46
me If I'm wrong here. My understanding is
4:48
that it's it's just like an Android based
4:51
pretty simple thing So
4:56
From my point of view. I don't
4:58
really see the reason why this wouldn't
5:00
have just been Like
5:02
running the Android app in the background and the
5:04
interface wouldn't have just been the same as any
5:07
other device in which case to Luke's Point there's
5:09
no reason it couldn't just keep working for a
5:11
very long period of time kind of like when
5:13
Pebble stopped getting updates to the app. Yeah, dude
5:16
that worked for Years, you
5:18
know, they didn't actually kill it. Yeah,
5:20
they didn't actively shut it down. Yeah
5:23
Um People
5:25
are trying to sell them I'm finding
5:27
a like eBay dot CA people are
5:29
trying to sell So the only reason
5:31
I can think of for them to
5:33
actively kill it right now would be
5:36
if they created some kind of custom
5:38
Backend or custom interface for it
5:40
to interact with and this is
5:42
something that maybe you can explain
5:44
to me Okay, because I don't
5:46
understand it when I read comments
5:48
in the YouTube creator studio app
5:52
They are you've talked to me about yeah, I've talked to
5:54
you about this. Okay, they are Not
5:58
the same as the ones that are publicly
6:01
accessible. Okay, so for
6:03
example, if I sort by newest, the
6:05
Creator Studio app will be like missing
6:07
a bunch of them. And if I
6:09
go sort by newest on the
6:11
live site, they're all
6:13
there. There's more of them there. Why
6:17
the ever loving f**k
6:20
do they have two databases
6:23
of the comments on the studio? No, no, no,
6:25
no, no, no, no, hold on, hold on. Stop
6:27
typing. I
6:29
just realized they're typing. Yeah, I know what
6:31
they're talking to. Okay, YouTube
6:33
is a massive service that has
6:36
people accessing it from all over
6:38
the world. It operates at a
6:40
scale that is barely imaginable to
6:43
the lay person. They absolutely have
6:45
geo replicated servers running their services.
6:47
I get it. That's
6:50
not what this is. I
6:52
don't think it's and I know this. I
6:55
know this for a fact. It's
6:57
it's what I'm hooking into a separate for
7:00
whatever reason that I can't possibly fathom.
7:03
It is it is a sub it's
7:05
a subset. Why?
7:08
Why would
7:10
you redo work? Help
7:13
me. Well, I don't I don't think they did
7:15
redo work. I don't think they're
7:17
pulling from two different data sets. I'm
7:21
not necessarily sure what's going on. It
7:23
doesn't make a ton of sense to me. But
7:25
I don't know how the thing is built. And
7:28
I mean, this isn't this isn't my actual job either.
7:30
So I'm sure developers out there could give a better
7:33
answer. But to me, it feels
7:35
like you have to you have probably two different
7:37
front end solutions pulling in different
7:39
ways pulling at different times. Why
7:44
the creator one like you're saying it
7:46
doesn't have ones that are on the
7:48
live one. That feels almost backwards to
7:50
me. Yeah, I'd feel like the creator
7:52
one would pull like more frequently. You
7:54
would think that what I would
7:57
think so the fact that it works the other way
7:59
around feels weird. to me. I
8:03
can't fully explain it personally. Personally,
8:05
if I was building this thing, I would expect
8:07
them to act identically.
8:11
I can understand how there would be two different
8:13
entire teams. The team that works on the YouTube
8:15
Studio app is probably a team of people that
8:17
is completely different than the team that works on
8:19
the YouTube app. But why are they doing anything
8:22
other than tapping into the same API? Why?
8:24
So they could, but they could in a different way.
8:27
Okay, why? Maybe they pull comments less
8:30
frequently, whatever. But why? They
8:32
probably don't talk to each other, so they don't necessarily know how the other
8:34
team is doing it. I
8:39
would think that there would be some form
8:41
of standardized thing, but I have no idea.
8:43
I haven't worked at a company in that
8:45
scale, and it just doesn't make
8:47
sense to me at all. So I'm trying to
8:49
make assumptions about something that I don't get how
8:52
it would become that way. Yeah,
8:54
it's a baffling thing, dude. I
8:57
think it's teams not directly communicating
8:59
with each other, accessing the same
9:01
repository, but in different ways, and
9:04
that's creating a frustrating experience. There
9:06
was another discrepancy that I found a while
9:08
back that just completely broke my
9:10
brain. I'm going to see
9:12
if I can pull it up because I sent
9:15
it to our YouTube rep who is a wonderful
9:17
human being and one of my favoritest persons that
9:19
I've ever had the pleasure of dealing
9:22
with at a tech company. Oh,
9:27
this is a funny one. May I be the same repo? All
9:33
right. Anyway,
9:35
what is the... Oh,
9:39
yeah, yeah, yeah. Here
9:42
we go. Here we go. So
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I sent a follow-up in March, so
9:47
a couple of months ago. Creator
9:50
Studio mobile app shows 98 replies
9:52
on this thread. One
9:54
screenshot is showing everything that shows up when I
9:56
scroll all the way down. Come
9:58
on, folks. So you can have a
10:00
look at my screenshots here. This
10:02
is the Creator Studio app. So it even
10:05
managed to log the number of replies there
10:07
are supposed to be. And
10:09
this is great. Here
10:12
we go. And then here is
10:15
everything that comes up. That's all
10:17
of them. That's every reply. There is
10:19
no more room to scroll. It's like eight.
10:22
And when I accessed it publicly, because the
10:24
reason, the reason that I was drawn to
10:26
this one in particular was because I had
10:28
replied to it. So I
10:30
replied to it. And I was
10:33
checking in on replies to my reply, because it
10:35
was an active conversation. I
10:37
not only can only see these
10:39
eight responses, I can't see my
10:41
own fucking message. Ha ha ha.
10:46
When have you had said, are those, is there
10:48
a time thing? So are all those messages from
10:51
before a certain period of time? This
10:54
is what a decent amount of my theory is
10:56
leading up. I think those messages are, I
10:59
think it is truncated here. But
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what I can't imagine is any reason
11:03
why. Yeah, I don't
11:05
know. I think that whatever is pulling
11:07
it is not happening at the same rate that it
11:09
happens on the live. No, because I could go back
11:12
ages later and they still wouldn't be there. Oh. Yeah.
11:15
Yeah, so this is the kind of stuff, you
11:17
guys think you got your new YouTube interface and
11:19
you're all mad about that. Guys, that is the
11:22
least of their problems. They can't even figure out
11:24
how many fucking comments are
11:26
in a chain. Man, I remember
11:28
talking to someone at YouTube about this
11:31
years ago. I was like, look, if
11:33
you guys want to be a social media platform,
11:35
you could be. You could be the biggest social
11:38
media platform practically overnight. But
11:40
you've got to deal with comments.
11:42
You've got to deal with user
11:44
to user interaction because it's
11:46
a cluster bomb right now. And to their
11:48
credit, they've done a lot with
11:51
respect to
11:54
automatic moderation of bots
11:57
and stuff like that. It's not perfect, but it's so
11:59
much. better than it was a year or two ago. But
12:02
the fact that they don't have like a, I
12:05
can't imagine. People aren't posting like
12:07
ASCII tanks anymore, but there sure is a
12:09
lot of other spam. There's a lot less
12:11
porn spam, a lot less, like
12:14
way less and it's far less overt.
12:16
There's no more WhatsApp numbers and usernames.
12:18
They have, they have cut down on
12:20
a lot, look. What I'm seeing a
12:22
ton of, and I'm seeing this ubiquitously
12:24
on every video on the platform is.
12:27
Amazon's groundbreaking new cryptocurrency.
12:30
I haven't actually seen a lot of those lately either. Sorry, go ahead.
12:34
Is replies that
12:36
look extremely real. And
12:39
then you look at the little photo. Yep. And
12:42
you're like. I still come across a lot of
12:44
those, but like. I see those all the time.
12:46
Dude, what's even the point of those? Those have
12:48
got to perform a lot worse. Yeah, those can't
12:50
be that effective. So in terms of cutting down
12:52
on the. I wouldn't be too surprised if there
12:54
are some. But those comments, a lot of the
12:56
time. The users clicking on profiles, hoping.
12:59
Sure, look, we
13:02
can acknowledge the improvement. If it didn't work, they wouldn't do
13:04
it. But we can acknowledge the improvement. They don't do it
13:06
as much. Yes. Not even close. It's
13:09
improved, it's improved. So the names needing to not
13:11
be like phone numbers and WhatsApp IDs and stuff.
13:13
That's a big improvement. Okay, so I
13:15
know that it's been at least a conversation. I
13:18
don't know internally at Google, but externally
13:20
to Google. Sure. For years.
13:22
What they should be doing is they should be
13:24
doing more of a Reddit style
13:27
upvoting and downvoting system if they really want
13:29
to improve comment quality. Do they
13:31
not? Can you not downvote? You can
13:33
upvote and downvote. But what you can't have
13:36
is conversation threads
13:39
within a parent comment. Okay,
13:42
so you can't have multiple branches off of
13:44
a parent. That actually gets pretty
13:46
confusing. When people are replying to each other, that
13:49
does get confusing. So this ended up
13:51
on, speaking of Reddit, this ended up
13:53
on the LTT subreddit when I replied
13:55
to someone on The
13:58
pool cleaning robot video. The
14:00
and people started kind of saying
14:02
one is a super aggressive in
14:04
defensive here. When. They thought I
14:07
was replying to the parent comment. But.
14:09
What I was actually replying to.
14:12
Was. One of the comments that
14:14
was a sub com and under
14:16
it by the original poster. So.
14:19
It would because I added them be.
14:21
Assumption was that it was replying to
14:23
the parent comment, but it wasn't I
14:26
was. I was directly addressing things that
14:28
they had said. And
14:31
when some people noticed the more like
14:33
i'm actually Cooper like oh what he
14:35
said makes way more sense because he
14:37
was actually replying to a completely different
14:39
comment. But it gets even better. and
14:41
this is most this is where I'm
14:43
going with this or time back to
14:45
the mobile app When I sort by
14:47
newest I can't see if a comment
14:49
is a parent or child com it.
14:53
So. I never even knew. That
14:55
the original post existed. I
14:58
replied directly to us there reply to
15:00
their own comment not knowing that it
15:02
was a child comment rather than a
15:05
parent comments. So when I saw some
15:07
of the band was to what I
15:09
said I was completely thrown for a
15:11
loop. Was like. Oh.
15:15
You tube A you tube you to. but we
15:17
can't. Live with the of we can't
15:19
live without Cs. Hey. Thanks for
15:22
this career and he who spotify
15:24
what city do. What can they
15:26
do to make this right? Because
15:28
I mean, it's not going to do us any
15:30
good to just say spotify bad. He played them
15:32
forever. What? What can they do? Know. Some.
15:35
Noticed or credit would probably be good. At.
15:38
The very reason enough? Oh.
15:40
how much is a ninety dollar devices is
15:42
not a cheap does this is not some for
15:44
meme products this is something people bought for
15:46
nearly a hundred u s dollars i mean
15:48
probably one hundred bucks by the time they pay
15:51
for shipping for an eye out of north
15:53
decrease of that but whatever in the neighborhood
15:55
of one hundred u s dollars us like meme
15:57
i bought it at the dollar store money
16:01
Yeah, um, I
16:06
don't know. You
16:09
have to be able to stop supporting
16:11
things eventually. Yeah, that's a really good
16:13
point. And whatever reason they did it
16:15
for, the way it
16:17
interfaces with Spotify is not in a
16:19
generic way that will continue to work
16:22
until some unforeseeable time
16:24
in the future. So yeah,
16:27
you've got to be able to discontinue stuff, but
16:29
like this clearly isn't right. Too early. Um,
16:31
they did stop selling it what a year and
16:34
a half ago. So that's good. You should pro
16:36
I believe you should give it more legs than
16:38
that. Um, and then I mean,
16:40
it isn't turning off for another seven months. So it
16:42
will have been two and a half years by the
16:44
time it actually turns off. In my
16:47
opinion, you should never really like
16:50
deactivate things. Just
16:53
let them rot eventually.
16:55
I don't
16:57
know. I'd want to see. I don't think you're
16:59
going to be able to a lot. Like my,
17:02
my brain wants to, is thinking about like when,
17:04
when games shut down, we always ask them like,
17:06
Oh, make it so that people can, I don't think that's
17:08
necessarily going to be able to happen. Cause this
17:12
isn't like, you probably can't like plug a USB
17:14
into this thing and like reprogram it. I
17:16
mean, easily. If it's, is it Android based?
17:19
Does anyone know? Cause if it is, then
17:21
you almost, I've never seen one. I
17:23
need it. So I could be wrong. You
17:25
a hundred percent can't. Okay. Well, then they should
17:27
do that. Yeah. I mean, and look, it's Linux
17:29
space. Why don't they
17:31
do that? Okay. People just do that anyway. Can I make
17:33
an argument? Hold on, hold on, hold
17:36
on. It's hackable. One second. I
17:38
know, but we're going to get there. We're going to get,
17:40
get, get, give me a second. All right. I can understand.
17:42
I was hanging out with, I was having a good time.
17:44
I know that. I know. That's why I took it away.
17:48
I just hate seeing joy on this. I, I
17:54
can understand why they might not necessarily
17:57
be able to do that. There may
17:59
be intellectual property concerns
18:01
in the code, right? Oh,
18:04
yeah. Okay. There could be. There
18:06
could be. However, I think
18:10
at the very least, some
18:13
kind of nudge-nudge or
18:17
facilitation for
18:19
the open source community to take
18:21
it over is in order here. I
18:23
understand why legal might not have
18:26
allowed it, but I hate this. This
18:28
is such a terrible precedent.
18:31
It's such a terrible way of behaving as
18:33
a company that it almost doesn't really matter
18:36
what the legal advice was. You've got to find a way
18:38
to do the right thing. Yeah.
18:41
And the right thing is obviously
18:43
to make it able to
18:45
continue to work. Yeah. And the
18:47
very, very least they could have done is to
18:49
not actively brick it. So apparently people have already
18:51
done a USB unlock of it. There's already a
18:53
jailbreak. Yes. What I think would
18:56
be pretty
18:59
sick, in my opinion. There's apparently a
19:01
subreddit already. I love it. Carthinghacks.
19:03
Nice. What I think
19:06
would be pretty sick is if they gave some
19:08
Spotify developer time to the
19:10
open source project. I think
19:12
that would be such, even if they're
19:14
still going to shut it down in December or
19:16
whatever, I think
19:18
that would be such a good faith,
19:22
good guy move that people would be
19:24
willing to look past a lot
19:26
of the crappiness of this situation overall. Yeah, because
19:28
it's not great. It hasn't been conducted great so
19:30
far. And they can't commit. I'm just going
19:33
to defend them slightly. They can't commit to
19:35
this forever. No, you can't support something forever.
19:37
But if they're like, all right. And that's
19:39
the problem with smart devices. That's why I
19:41
didn't buy that floor cleaning robot. Yeah. Because
19:45
I told you about that conversation, right? Where I
19:47
was like, okay, but like... What happens if you
19:49
go bankrupt? Does it operate without your cloud thing?
19:51
And they're like, well, Yeah, it's
19:53
not going to go away. I'm like, right. But If
19:55
it does, what happens? Is It a brick? Well, yeah,
19:57
but we're doing great. We're not going to go away.
20:00
You fucking idiot. By
20:03
a little illegal immigrants. eighteen thousand dollars or
20:05
something. They are more than that kind of
20:07
money on something. The just turns off a
20:09
lot of things like that like infrastructure like
20:11
that is gonna be in deployment for the
20:14
entire existence of that build a i suspect
20:16
that robot to work for twenty five years?
20:18
I don't think. I don't know. Even if
20:20
somebody has to wonder you to get acquired
20:22
by someone who doesn't get to sits above
20:25
for cleaning robots. Maybe they want to use
20:27
your your automatic firing technology her military application
20:29
or something. Else here but my stupid
20:31
badminton buildings yes he later he never
20:33
know if don't know yeah. But
20:36
so the i think I think that
20:38
would us to be very cool is
20:40
this spot. If I sorted Roper's spotify
20:43
software engineers were given a little bit
20:45
of time. It has to be
20:47
limited, is on a bill to be a
20:49
thunder discontinuous for reasons, but it is not
20:51
a decent amount of time enough time to
20:53
make a really solid. Ah
20:56
contribution to the open source projects.
20:58
Don't take it over. Don't
21:01
have anyone become leads on it or anything, but
21:03
try to contribute. Really have leads to a point
21:06
where the open source community is a pretty stoked
21:08
on it. And then just let them
21:10
have it. And lease. And
21:15
that's not like a. Happy.
21:17
Ending. But. It didn't need something.
21:20
L and a second device. And
21:24
him sooner than source that does exist. On
21:28
sister cysts. Ah
21:32
right. Oh man, what is our
21:34
next topic going to be? Imagine
21:36
a message and. The
21:40
fact that. This
21:42
is not a good sign. He's.
21:44
Never had this problem for been
21:46
cancelled in a while to. Be
21:50
like yeah, you know what? This is a
21:52
good enough I be sensitive priests contributing toed
21:54
boots. matter
21:57
like having that Open
22:03
source, open legs. I need some people to test
22:05
this one. You gotta push the contributing code,
22:07
then you gotta pull it. I'm
22:10
on the alpha version of the new thing.
22:13
I need a really action on
22:16
12.0. Works
22:18
with Android 15. Oh
22:21
man. Alrighty, you wanna pick our
22:23
next topic? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Should we do
22:25
our new channel? Yeah, actually.
22:29
I wanna see, cause I think a lot of
22:31
people don't know that it's live, I wanna see
22:33
comments live of what people think of
22:36
the voice and stuff, cause it's a relatively short video
22:38
so people could go watch it. No, we're gonna watch
22:40
it. I mean, it's on our own video. Yeah, we
22:42
can react to our own video, dang it. We can
22:44
do that? We can do that. It's the internet? It's
22:47
online, it's brought to you by
22:49
Secret Lab. Yeah,
22:52
there's their logo. Sure, whatever. That
22:55
one's not even legible. Oh, my heart's a real... Yeah. Luke,
22:58
oh. What a guy. It's obviously
23:00
my fault. Alright,
23:03
I've got it loaded up. Dan, are they able to
23:05
hear? If I do stuff, why don't
23:07
I do a couple pings? You can make sure my
23:09
audio's working. Yep, I can see that coming through. It's
23:11
here, folks. I'm just gonna play it for you, we're
23:13
gonna watch it together, and we're gonna talk about how
23:16
it came to be. Can we
23:18
hear that's the question? Ah,
23:20
I mean, Luke and I have listened to it, but I'm
23:22
sure whatever. Hopefully we can, but yeah. Yeah,
23:24
it'd be nice. I'll see what I can do.
23:26
Okay. I hear it now. Alright.
23:30
Linus lap. That's
23:32
what the button says. Okay. What?
23:36
It's a fully modular ATX powered
23:39
by with a single fan mode. The power supply
23:41
comes in reasonable packaging and measures 150 by 86
23:43
by 140 millimeters. Considering
23:48
cable flexibility, it has an effective depth
23:50
of 175 millimeters. The
23:53
Corsair RN750E is accompanied by the accessories
23:55
as shown and supported by a seven
23:57
year warranty. This warranty period is as
24:00
expected for a power supply of
24:02
this class. The fully modular cables
24:04
are of acceptable quality. They have
24:07
plastic insulation and are moderately flexible.
24:09
The provided cable set includes a
24:11
single 12V high power cable, allowing
24:13
it to power all types of
24:15
high-wattage GPUs. LTT Labs conducted
24:18
all of the following testing at an
24:20
ambient temperature of 20 degrees Celsius. The
24:22
full test suite, including tests at extended
24:25
temperature ranges, is available on the Labs
24:27
website linked in the description. But before
24:29
we get to the results, here's a
24:32
message from our sponsor. The Corsair RM750E
24:34
carries an 80-plus gold rating, and we
24:36
measure 90% efficiency at 50% of
24:40
its maximum rated load. That's equivalent to
24:42
power supplies in a similar class. Throughout
24:45
the full rated output power range of 750 watts, there was a 0.162V
24:47
drop on the 12V
24:52
rail, which is within ATX specifications
24:54
and similar to most other power
24:56
supplies we've tested. Most of
24:59
the output rails met ATX specifications. This
25:01
stability should provide a steady platform for
25:03
the operation of other components in the
25:05
computer. The peak-to-peak signal ripple
25:07
of the fully loaded power supplies 12V
25:10
rail was averaged for its price and
25:12
wattage at 31mV. The
25:14
5V and 3.3V rails had signal ripple of 17mV and 21mV respectively.
25:22
Modern power supplies typically have no
25:24
issue complying with ATX ripple stacks,
25:26
and this unit is no different.
25:28
We test the power supplies resilience
25:31
to momentary power dropouts and ripples
25:33
using our brownout test that interrupts
25:35
the input power for a few
25:37
milliseconds. This allows us to measure
25:39
how long of a power dropout
25:41
the sample can sustain without interrupting
25:43
the output power. The Corsair RM750E
25:46
was measured to withstand 13ms and 14ms dropout at
25:48
full rated load for 115V
25:52
and 230V inputs respectively. This
25:56
unit performs similarly to other power
25:58
supplies. The Excursion test momentarily
26:00
applies up to 200% of
26:02
the rated load to test
26:04
a power supply's ability to
26:06
support components that may temporarily
26:08
require more than their rated
26:10
current. The Corsair RM750E withstood
26:12
a subset of the excursions
26:14
but failed with others. It's
26:16
compatible with most systems but
26:18
may struggle with high-end hardware
26:21
connecting. The Corsair RM750E is
26:23
equipped with the protection as listed, providing
26:25
the full suite of protections for you
26:27
and your equipment. We measured the over
26:29
power protection to engage at a maximum of 131% of
26:31
rated load while
26:34
the 12-volt rail alone is capable of 81 amps, 130% of
26:36
its rating. This
26:40
is equivalent to similarly rated power
26:42
supplies offering good protection against component
26:44
faults while also allowing the power
26:46
drop to slightly exceed the official rating.
26:48
We can recommend the Corsair RM750E because
26:50
of its good load and line regulation
26:52
and resilience to cross loads. For full
26:55
specifications and test results, follow the link
26:57
to the product page on the LTT
26:59
Labs website. All right. So
27:02
let's talk about it. I jotted
27:04
down some notes from chat while we were going. So
27:08
a couple of these I think I
27:10
can just answer immediately. A couple of these maybe become discussion.
27:13
One of them is voice too slow. In
27:15
that case, in my opinion, just adjust the
27:18
video playback speed. You know,
27:20
it's funny because I actually saw some comments
27:22
saying that it was too fast on
27:24
full plane. Adjust the video playback speed. Yeah,
27:28
like not too fast. Someone said that normally
27:30
they watch at one and a half speed
27:32
and they had to slow this one down
27:34
to 1x. Interesting. So it's going to depend
27:36
on your familiarity with the subject material, I
27:38
think. I suspect people are saying like the
27:40
voice cadence is off and stuff. That'll improve
27:42
over time. Considering
27:45
where we started. It's way better.
27:47
The first time we previewed this was
27:49
probably about three or
27:51
four months ago, something like that. Man,
27:56
this is a big improvement. It will consistently improve.
28:00
that I saw were like it's not taking
28:02
like breaks to breathe. I mean
28:05
it doesn't breathe so that
28:07
makes sense. I heard a breath though. I heard it
28:09
take a breath. Did you really? It's just meditating. It
28:11
doesn't like pause. Like
28:13
there's the sentence pauses or not. Yeah it doesn't run
28:15
out of air. Yeah. I noticed
28:18
that as well. Yeah so like stuff
28:20
like that will be improved over time.
28:22
Yep. Someone said I'd stop watching. That's
28:24
completely fine. Yeah. One of the reasons
28:27
why people have been asking why we
28:29
chose AI voice for this because
28:31
these aren't gonna make like any money at all
28:35
and there's like. Well it's not just
28:37
that. These are not gonna get any views. Which
28:40
is why that's going to be a thing.
28:42
Which is why they're not gonna drive any
28:44
revenue. And I suspect watch time isn't necessarily
28:46
gonna be amazing stuff like that. There's comments
28:48
like I'd stop watching not enough emotion stuff
28:50
like that. It's not supposed to be hyped
28:52
up really exciting
28:55
interesting content to watch. It's supposed to be like
28:57
I am interested in
28:59
purchasing this product. I
29:01
would like a very on-the-point
29:04
information heavy cookie
29:06
cutter video. Third-party
29:08
validated. Give
29:11
me the information and then if you're interested in diving
29:13
into more because you saw one part that you found
29:15
is interesting then you can jump to the labs website
29:17
and get more info there. It's not it's that I
29:20
don't suspect unless you're like oh I really
29:22
just freaking love power supplies dude.
29:26
I don't expect you're gonna watch every video on this channel. I
29:28
suspect the subscriber conversion for a channel like this
29:30
is not gonna be super high. But
29:34
if this was back in the day and I was building
29:36
computers this is the exact type of stuff I would have
29:38
tried to find. Because this is why I would look at
29:40
content on YouTube was because I wanted to see video
29:43
of the thing out of the box. That
29:46
was like a hundred percent what I was looking for. I
29:48
didn't care about the unboxing experience. I wanted to see the
29:50
thing after it was out of the box and
29:52
to verify some assumptions I was making. And there's
29:54
gonna be people that are gonna watch a lot
29:57
of videos on the channel. Sure. But they're not
29:59
gonna subscribe for entertainment. unless maybe they work in
30:01
the industry. Like if my
30:03
job was procurement at a system integrator
30:07
and I was just like, oh, well, this is
30:09
convenient. If these guys are just gonna test every
30:11
power supply and I can just get a notification
30:13
on my phone so I can make sure that
30:15
I'm keeping up with what's good because it's like
30:17
my job, absolutely, I
30:19
could see someone subscribing, but for the average
30:21
builder who's putting together a system for their
30:25
roommate this quarter and doing
30:27
something for their sister for six months
30:29
later. You're not gonna subscribe to it,
30:31
but it's very likely you'll watch one
30:33
of them. Or you know what, we
30:35
haven't given much thought to playlists, I
30:37
guess. It just popped into
30:39
my head. Maybe, maybe, Jake Belvance is
30:42
the channel manager for this. But I don't
30:44
think we've given a ton of thought to
30:46
that yet. But something that would
30:48
be cool is if we had playlists that
30:50
are at various wattage ranges or
30:53
playlists that are at various price points. Price points
30:55
will be tough because they're gonna change. So unless
30:57
we had a way to, unless
31:00
there's a way to hook into YouTube's API
31:02
and manage your playlists automatically or something like
31:04
that based on pooling real-time pricing information or
31:07
something, I don't think we'll be able to
31:09
do by price. But if we could do
31:11
it by wattage range, for example, then
31:13
that would be a really cool way to go through
31:15
the channel and basically go, okay, out of 500 watt
31:17
power supplies, okay, I wanna learn about some of these.
31:19
Of course, I understand.
31:22
And this is a comment that I saw,
31:24
I guess it was over on floatplane, where
31:28
someone was like, this doesn't seem, or maybe it's
31:30
on Twitter, this doesn't
31:32
seem to add a lot compared to reading an
31:34
article. You
31:37
are right. The correct
31:39
format for a power supply
31:41
one pager is
31:43
a page, not a video. But
31:46
what we have to recognize is
31:49
the realities that
31:51
exist in the tech sphere, in
31:53
the media sphere, that
31:56
have made it so that this abomination is
31:58
now how you will find out. about
32:01
the testing data of a power supply.
32:04
Viewer habits have changed to video. The
32:07
money that used to be in written media is
32:10
functionally gone compared to how it
32:13
was in the early to mid
32:15
to even late 2000s. People will
32:17
not read something. People will not
32:20
read something. And even if they
32:22
did, that site that writes
32:24
that thing that no one's reading would
32:26
have an extremely
32:29
difficult time surviving. So
32:32
the equipment that's involved in this and
32:34
the personnel that's involved in this is
32:38
so expensive. I just don't see a path
32:40
where you could do this testing in a
32:42
written format, unless it was, like
32:46
to my point earlier about being very interesting to
32:48
people who are in the industry, unless it was
32:50
like a paid subscription or something like that. But
32:52
that's not where we wanna go, at
32:54
least with the basics of is this thing okay
32:56
to buy? What kind
32:58
of computer can it power? What kind of,
33:00
do its safety protections actually work? Like that's
33:02
not something that we want to paywall. I
33:06
do think that there could be more detailed
33:08
testing data that might only really be useful
33:10
to people who are going, okay, can
33:13
we procure thousands
33:16
of these for our systems for next quarter or
33:18
something like that? And okay, an
33:20
example of that. I have an
33:22
extremely particular type of load that I need to
33:24
put on this. Sure. In the
33:26
long term, I can see us scaling up the
33:29
number of those chroma testing units that we have
33:31
and we could go, okay, yeah, I mean, or
33:34
even do like paid testing. Yeah, we'll test
33:36
10 instead of just one.
33:38
We'll test 10, we'll run your suite on it,
33:40
whatever. Yeah, or whatever the case may be. So
33:43
in the long term, there's all kinds of
33:45
different directions that we can go with it.
33:47
But the reality is, if we want this
33:49
content to exist, we've got to
33:51
go where the reader is. And
33:54
the reader is now watching in video form. So,
33:58
and how many people? people, that's a big
34:01
question mark, right? Is one of the answers
34:03
we were trying to find when we were
34:05
working on the concept for this channel because
34:08
this channel exists because we want to make
34:10
it. We want this information to be available.
34:12
But one of the things that we had to figure
34:14
out is, okay, how do we make this self-sufficient? The
34:17
question wasn't even how do we make money. The
34:20
question was, how do we make this make any
34:22
sense? Because don't
34:25
kid yourself. This is a creative company.
34:27
We're a media organization. If you don't
34:29
think that there were some misgivings internally
34:32
around AI voice, for
34:34
example. Come on, guys. There
34:37
were absolutely misgivings, but the way that
34:40
we're looking at it and the way
34:42
that we've messaged it internally is, look,
34:44
this is not replacing human intervention. A
34:46
human developed this test suite and a
34:49
human needs to test this power supply.
34:52
By the time we do that, I'm sorry,
34:54
but there isn't for the
34:57
two to 4,000 views we're going to get
34:59
on this video, there just
35:01
isn't any budget for
35:04
the media side of things. In the long term,
35:06
I want that to change. I
35:08
would love for that to change. I would love for
35:10
every... Look, I would
35:12
love in the longer term for us to be able to count on 100,000
35:15
or 200,000 views per
35:17
video and for us to go, okay, let's scale
35:19
it up. Why are we doing this all
35:21
cookie cutter now that we've
35:23
got this momentum? I
35:26
don't know if it'll ever get there. It starts performing like that?
35:28
Sure. I don't see it happening,
35:31
personally. I see it happening
35:34
in spikes. I suspect if some
35:36
flagship GPU comes out and we
35:39
have a GPU equivalent of power supply
35:42
circuit, so I'm making multiple assumptions here,
35:45
it could be a banger. I think
35:48
the day-to-day releases of that channel are not
35:50
going to be able to... You might be
35:52
right. See, I'd be happy to be wrong.
35:55
But one of the tough
35:58
conversations that I had to have with someone... someone
36:00
who to their credit approached
36:03
me about it, approached
36:05
me with the concerns, right? Like that's what
36:07
we want. So they approached me with the
36:09
concerns and they basically went, look,
36:11
I have serious ethical concerns.
36:14
I have serious creative concerns.
36:17
I don't understand who this is for.
36:21
Help explain it to me. I
36:23
basically went, okay, here's the
36:25
situation. We went and we looked at
36:27
the very
36:30
few channels that are left that are
36:32
even trying to do dedicated videos on
36:34
power on an individual power supply skew.
36:38
We are expecting at the
36:40
very best, at the very,
36:42
very possible best, somewhere
36:45
in the neighborhood of like five to
36:47
10,000 views on
36:49
average for each of these videos. That
36:51
puts our budget somewhere in the neighborhood
36:53
of 10 to
36:56
$25. What
36:58
would you have me do? I
37:01
want people to have this information. I
37:04
need to get it to them in video. My
37:07
options are either that I outsource
37:09
to some place where I
37:11
can pay like slave labor wages,
37:14
which we have never done. And
37:16
I have never been comfortable
37:18
with. Or we pay
37:20
proper wages to the testers,
37:23
to the people who are working on creating
37:25
this data. We try to find
37:27
a way to scale that from 10 to
37:30
$25 to maybe we can scrape
37:32
together some affiliate revenue to
37:35
make sure that this is sustainable in that form.
37:37
And we lean on automated tools
37:39
as much as we have to, to
37:42
make this even remotely have a chance. And
37:46
they kind of went, well, I hope the voice
37:48
can be better. And at least it is
37:50
better than it was. It's a lot better
37:52
in my opinion. And I do, like I
37:54
said earlier, suspect there will be continual improvement
37:56
there. One thing that
37:58
I disliked a lot was when it was
38:00
your voice, when it was a modification of your
38:03
voice. Yep, I can see that. That was odd
38:05
for me. I didn't like that. So the funny
38:07
thing is, one of the reasons that we had
38:09
actually leaned that way initially was that there
38:11
seemed to be less community
38:14
backlash to cloning my
38:16
voice versus cloning a random one
38:18
because I don't know why,
38:20
but it seems like the perception was less
38:22
that we replaced a voice actor with
38:25
an AI and the perception was more
38:28
we are applying an
38:31
efficiency factor to Linus's time
38:34
by saving him the trouble of reading the lines. And
38:38
the distinction is arbitrary, but
38:41
that voice sounding like me made
38:43
it an extension of me
38:45
instead of... This whole landscape
38:47
is weird to navigate right now. Oh, I
38:49
know, right? It's true because
38:52
we're all figuring out how
38:54
we feel about these things and where the lines are
38:56
and stuff. And while that's
38:58
still happening, it's just a little
39:00
tricky, but I think this
39:02
is okay. And I like the idea of if the
39:04
channel does start performing well, we could get talent for
39:07
it or whatever. That's interesting. I do
39:09
suspect the quoted number of views that you
39:11
just said, I think some of the videos
39:13
on these channels are going to do a
39:15
lot worse than that. Oh yeah. And I
39:17
think some of the videos on these channels will smash that out
39:19
of the park. I think so too. I
39:22
think... It's going to be very up and
39:24
down, I think. Very inconsistent. Here's
39:26
something that I bet
39:29
you guys didn't necessarily realize is
39:31
the AI voice is not the only
39:34
automation tool that's being used for
39:36
these videos. I
39:39
feel like I knew that. A
39:41
human editor only watches the output. Of
39:47
the video? Yeah.
39:51
So the reason
39:53
the script is a little
39:55
bit formulaic sounding is because
39:57
it's actually a template. You're
40:00
doing the same shots. So are you are you
40:02
naming the files in a certain way? Is that
40:04
how it's doing it? So all the shots will
40:07
be the same all the
40:09
graphics will be the same with the
40:11
same names ish The
40:13
exact details of how it's done are gonna be Ed's
40:15
department not mine, right? but
40:17
then the the the
40:19
the little cut the little color commentary
40:21
because that was something we realized about the
40:24
first one that needed to be Fixed
40:26
it had no context. It was just like
40:29
The boat however point whatever millowripples like
40:31
it didn't it didn't sound like anything
40:33
if you don't already understand it Right.
40:35
Yeah, and so I was like, okay
40:37
look guys We have to come
40:39
up with a way to create
40:41
a script that allows for some
40:44
color commentary Or we
40:46
are gonna completely lose any chance we could
40:48
possibly have of people watching this thing and
40:50
learning anything So when it
40:52
says this is as expected
40:54
for power supplies of this class There's
40:58
basically variables. There's almost like a drop-down
41:00
box. This is worse than expected. This
41:02
is better than expected This is as
41:04
expected So when it did like the
41:07
cables are of acceptable bendiness or whatever
41:09
the cables are of exceptional bendiness the
41:11
cables are of subpar bendiness Compared
41:14
to our expectations and now a
41:16
human is involved in in bending
41:19
those cables and seeing okay Yeah,
41:21
we know the depth of the power supply But like
41:23
really what can you fit it because that was something
41:25
that I asked to be added Because the depth of
41:27
a power supply doesn't tell you what case it can
41:29
fit in you need to know once accounting for cable
41:31
Bendiness how deep it is, right? So
41:34
that was something that that's something that a
41:36
human needs to do. This is not AI
41:38
content This is highly human
41:40
created content that
41:43
is edited together and voiced
41:47
by automation tools It's
41:51
Something that I have no idea if it's gonna work
41:54
But Boy do I ever hope so given how much
41:56
we've invested in it because I Don't think the labs
41:58
website on its own is going. The have
42:00
a chance of agree to any
42:02
kind of break even point. It's
42:04
gotta be something that can be
42:06
funded by the other branches of
42:08
our company and that. Are
42:11
and and that will allow us to reinvest in it
42:13
and continue to build. We have some ideas to help
42:15
it. But it was kind of
42:17
struggle with. Him. Citing
42:22
right. One. Excited!
42:27
Oh right, we're supposed to emerge as
42:29
I'm excited to sell ya about those.
42:31
Ah, do we have any store updates
42:34
that we're supposed to talk about? I
42:36
haven't looked at that part of the
42:38
Oh oh yes we have a huge
42:40
promotion that we're running right now on
42:42
the L T T screwdriver. This applies
42:45
to any screwdriver. That's right, it's classic
42:47
colors, retro not you are or study
42:49
if you buy any Ltd screwdriver by
42:51
Ah oh really? by midnight today. While.
42:54
That's a really short Roth. Okay, you'll
42:56
be entered into draw to win either
42:58
a giant Ltd screwdriver. Check. That
43:00
out. Oh, that's from that
43:02
stream we did earlier this week. Or.
43:05
A twenty two hundred dollar gaming
43:07
Pc As soon on our Pc
43:10
building stream this last Wednesday for
43:12
the full detail, the legal insults
43:14
you gotta go to elsehesaw.com/products/screwdriver Ah
43:16
so. Anyway, or one
43:18
of the things that you can do if you
43:20
decide to order a screwdriver right now is you
43:22
can leave a merge message in the shopping cart.
43:25
We don't want to just take your money, just
43:27
you for your money, your screen and than what
43:29
we like. Acknowledge your comment na na na na
43:31
na. You should leave emerge message so you can
43:33
throw money at your screen and get great quality
43:35
merchandise. In the mail in the cart you'll
43:37
see a little box. Whenever realize to leave
43:39
emerged message it will go to Producer Dance
43:41
who will pop up on the bottom down
43:44
there like that reply to it, forward it
43:46
internally to someone who can best get you
43:48
an answer or. Presents
43:50
curated certain arts.
43:53
So. Mad at. The. buttons broken
43:55
down for sex or as an evil carried it
43:57
for me and luke to address on the show. Dan,
43:59
do you want to hit us with a merch message
44:01
to show the folks how it works? Sure, absolutely. Yeah,
44:04
we've got a few here. Let's see. Would
44:06
you make an Apple leather jacket? No.
44:11
So. Please
44:17
make a medium tall. I need to replace my leather jacket
44:19
so bad. No. Please.
44:24
You know how we did? We don't have a tall shirt yet, Dan. We're
44:26
losing this war. I don't care.
44:28
I will have them custom tailor me one.
44:32
You know how we did that mock neck? Yeah.
44:34
That we called the Steve, where it had the seam
44:36
down the middle, just like his iconic. Okay.
44:41
So I had. Oh no. I
44:44
had. The Jensen? The
44:46
Steve Apple? I had planned. So Matthew
44:49
from Creator Warehouse, his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade
44:52
is coming up. Okay. And I
44:54
don't know if it's going to make it into the cut
44:56
because it's sponsored by AMD. So who
44:58
knows what the... It
45:00
might not make it through our own internal business
45:02
team, you know, whatever. And it's
45:05
not like it matters in terms of
45:07
our editorial integrity if we can talk
45:10
about a future product or whatever. So
45:12
it's not the kind of thing, that's not the kind of hill we're going to die on.
45:15
So it might not make it through our internal team. It might not
45:17
make it through AMD. But one of
45:20
the things that happened in that video is
45:23
Matthew and I decided
45:25
to tease a potential upcoming product
45:27
called... The Jensen.
45:30
The Jensen. Because we wanted to do a leather jacket
45:32
for a while. I don't know what kind
45:34
of leather we'd use. We actually haven't gotten that far. But
45:36
one of the things we have decided is that the jacket
45:38
will be designed by AI. Because
45:42
of course it would. He's
45:47
already got some really great concepts.
45:49
So obviously, because, you know, we
45:51
have designers, we would make
45:53
it actually function in the real world. But
45:55
it would have like pockets that
45:57
don't open. Zippers
46:00
that don't go anywhere. At least it doesn't have
46:02
to do hands. You know AI things. The
46:05
AI jacket. The Jensen. Huh?
46:07
Dan? Dan? Huh? If
46:10
it's in a medium tall, I will buy two. Right?
46:13
I think that's sick. W-PAL-3-E-2 in
46:15
floatplane chat has
46:19
summarized my thoughts so far of that's
46:21
gonna be a really expensive joke. How
46:24
many do you think you're gonna sell? You're gonna
46:26
sell two today? It's gonna be a really expensive
46:29
joke. But he's gonna use his employee thing so
46:31
you'll make nothing. I'll pay out of pocket. I
46:33
don't care. Dude, I guarantee you. I guarantee you.
46:35
Okay guys, come on. Let's hear from you. Who
46:37
wants one? Dan? I think we
46:39
need to get a poll in here. Oh, yeah, right away.
46:41
Yeah Firefox. Let's get
46:44
that poll and besides and besides
46:46
if it doesn't sell. In the
46:48
de-Google-fire-life video, one of the
46:50
top comments was like along with all the floatplane users.
46:52
I am 70% of people that use Firefox or something
46:54
like that. I don't remember the exact sign and I
46:57
burst out laughing. I was like, ahh! But
47:00
think about it this way, Luke. Even if we don't
47:02
sell any of them infinite
47:04
money glitch, we just write them off. Alright,
47:12
we'll get that going. You mad? Are you
47:14
mad bro? I'm voting no.
47:16
Brother, are you angry? I do need
47:18
to replace this jacket though. Why?
47:21
Oh, I'm so excited. I can't find a
47:23
leather tailor to actually work on it. Really?
47:26
I'm looking. I'm trying to find an artist
47:28
collective around here that could recommend an artisan,
47:30
but it's very very difficult. I
47:32
know a person who works with leather goods
47:35
who lives on Vancouver Island because he
47:37
came to LTX.
47:39
Oh. Yeah, you're not talking
47:41
about that person, are you? Is
47:44
it someone I know? No. Okay, never mind. I
47:47
can't find any company that makes them anymore. Yeah,
47:52
well bummer for Dan. Yeah, so yeah, maybe
47:54
we'll get him a Jensen. Okay.
47:57
Where's our where's our please? pockets
48:00
that don't open and zippers that are to nothing?
48:03
Do you want that? Is that a good, is that
48:05
a, does that, does that? Clothes. Is that more interesting?
48:07
Clothes are supposed to be self-expression. Artistic
48:10
self-expression. And in this
48:12
case. I gotta remember this. The person who
48:14
has one brand of socks and one... Right.
48:16
I've been wearing one jacket for ten years.
48:18
No, one brand of T-shirts. Ten years I've
48:20
been wearing this jacket. In this case. I
48:22
haven't even changed my shoes in a decade.
48:24
In this case, the use... I have just
48:26
multiple pairs of the same one to be
48:28
clear. The use of AI actually makes sense.
48:30
It's so meta. Like, it's
48:32
an, it could be an ironic expression of like... It's
48:34
not, it's not meta. It's in video. Of like, hating
48:37
AI. It
48:39
needs a little pocket. Where's the ding? It
48:41
needs a pocket. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm
48:43
talking about. That's the first time I've had
48:45
to do that for Luke. He deserves it.
48:47
Disgusting. Disgusting. It
48:50
needs to have a pocket on the, on the, like, chest
48:53
for your humane pin. Yeah,
48:59
but it should be like the wrong size. Yeah,
49:01
yeah, yeah. Because AI has no concept of scale. It doesn't
49:03
fit. It doesn't fit. It
49:05
doesn't fit. Rabbit.
49:08
And then like a slop to the rabbit. Well, they could add
49:10
a rabbit leather. Ooh. 45,000
49:14
dollar jacket. That's a
49:16
lot of rabbits. Mood murdered. Yeah. Oh,
49:19
hey. It just be Android anyway. Sorry. Were we
49:21
supposed to be on a topic right now? Because
49:23
I actually wanted to come back to PSU circuit
49:25
a little bit. That was the second
49:28
merch message? That was one merch. Oh, that was one.
49:30
Okay. Hit me again and I'm just going to leave this page open
49:32
so I don't forget to talk. Okay, yeah, sure. Same
49:34
sort of thing. Curious about the
49:36
amount of stolen items found during tech upgrade
49:38
videos. Were the items actually considered stolen? Or
49:40
is this just a joke about the amount
49:42
of stuff employees take back with them? Both?
49:46
A little bit of both, I think. Yeah, both of them. Okay.
49:49
Sorry, I was eating jerky. Okay,
49:55
so part of it is... that
50:01
I was a little
50:04
bit legitimately annoyed in
50:06
some of the very early ones to
50:09
find work property in
50:11
people's homes. Nothing that
50:14
mattered in
50:17
the grand scheme of things. What were some of
50:19
those things? Like cables. Like
50:21
a cheap USB dock that
50:24
realistically we didn't pay for and
50:26
probably they intended to return at
50:28
some point because remember we started
50:30
this series when work from home
50:32
was a lot more common at
50:35
our company because of
50:37
all the COVID lockdowns and stuff right?
50:39
So people had a lot of stuff
50:41
at home that they
50:44
were probably going to return it but
50:46
it wasn't asset tagged
50:48
inventory so nothing would have prevented
50:51
them from just keeping
50:53
it and so it was this kind
50:56
of gray area where
50:58
it kind of started with me
51:01
being like hey come on man
51:03
and then obviously
51:05
I ended up with a lot of false
51:07
positives because legitimately people do end up with
51:10
a lot of stuff that used to belong
51:12
to the company. You know we got LTT
51:14
store? Well we also
51:16
have the LMG store which is where
51:18
people can sometimes get access to. A
51:22
unit that came in for
51:24
B-roll for a sponsor and ended up having cosmetic
51:26
damage and they were like well we don't want
51:28
it back and it goes in the giveaway pile.
51:30
We have a giveaway pile. We
51:33
also have wild Christmas parties
51:35
not in like a tech bro
51:37
Silicon Valley games industry kind of
51:40
way in like wow
51:42
I can't believe the giveaways that
51:45
they're have at this you
51:47
know two drink maximum otherwise
51:49
pretty you know controlled party.
51:52
So people end up with stuff from the Christmas
51:55
party. People end up with we have
51:57
done on occasion in the past. The
52:00
Christmas party is a lot of stuff. It's
52:02
hundreds of things every year. We have done on
52:04
occasion in the past extra credit things that people
52:06
can do for what we call LMG bucks.
52:08
I don't think we've done that in a long
52:11
time. But in the early days... I've never even
52:13
heard of that. Yeah. We
52:15
would have stuff that's like, this power supply has a broken
52:17
fan in it. Linus could open
52:20
it and put a new fan in. Or if
52:22
you wanted to just take
52:25
it home with you and put a new fan in it, then you
52:27
can have 50 LMG bucks or
52:29
something like that. And if you buy
52:31
stuff... That must have been when I was off float
52:33
plane. I've never heard of this. Almost no
52:35
one used it, but this is just an example of one of
52:37
the ways that people could have obtained stuff over the years. I
52:41
used to just get paid in hardware. I
52:43
mean, no. Not by me. Yes.
52:47
Well, popped up. You were above the
52:49
legal limit otherwise. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
52:52
You can't say stuff like that, Luke. People
52:55
are gonna... We
52:58
know how people are. It was fun.
53:00
Anyway. So LMG bucks, for
53:02
stuff that's in our inventory that's used, if
53:04
people want to buy it and we
53:07
don't need it, we don't charge full price for it.
53:09
So people can use LMG bucks to stretch a dollar
53:12
pretty far. Pretty dang far. People
53:14
use LMG bucks a lot. So people
53:16
have stuff that they've bought from work,
53:18
stuff that they have won from work,
53:21
stuff that they've taken home from work for
53:23
legitimate purposes. And in the case
53:25
of Dennis, stuff that they've just taken
53:28
because I don't know, he thinks he has tenure or something. I'm
53:30
not sure how that works in his head. So
53:33
it is a combination of things. And
53:36
like anything, it's been amusing for me to
53:38
see the community speculation around it because the
53:41
number of people that are outraged either
53:44
way is baffling.
53:47
The people that are outraged that
53:49
I am such a,
53:51
I don't know, overbearing,
53:53
horrible boss, that
53:55
I'm gonna be berating someone in public
53:58
over this cable that they... took is
54:02
probably about equal to the number of
54:04
people that hate me for being such
54:07
a disorganized corporate overlord that
54:09
I can't even inspire
54:12
my team in this horrible toxic work environment
54:14
to not be stealing anything that isn't bolted
54:16
down. It's amazing
54:19
how you can just take
54:21
a fucking joke that's just
54:23
a meme and interpret
54:25
it as a meme. I've
54:28
always wondered like if
54:30
we do one at my place what
54:33
stuff like what stuff will not be
54:36
stolen? I
54:38
because a lot of it like I don't even know. Like
54:43
I don't know. Well that's what asset tags are
54:45
for. Yeah but sometimes there's
54:47
asset tags on stuff that was given away. Really?
54:51
Yeah. Really? Yeah. Okay
54:53
well we'll see I might remember. And then I think I
54:55
have like three generations. You know I personally select the items
54:57
for the giveaway every year right? Yeah yeah. So
55:00
I know. But there's three generations of
55:02
computers in my place that are
55:04
from my like weird upgrade thing that I have. Well
55:07
I guess we'll see. I like found
55:09
some graphics cards at my dad's place.
55:13
And I recognize them as work property.
55:15
Yeah. So I think we'll figure it
55:17
out. But I didn't even know. But I did. So
55:20
like it's yeah it might be
55:22
interesting. Guilty? I'm taking stuff
55:27
home. I don't anymore. But like I don't
55:29
know the line used to be a lot more blurry when there
55:32
was like three of us. It
55:34
used to be as simple as like hey
55:36
my GPU died. I want a game this
55:39
weekend and I like don't want
55:41
to go to the store. Yeah. Can
55:43
I borrow a GPU and it'd be like yeah I
55:45
don't take one of the ones we need for this
55:47
review on Tuesday. Yeah I need these ones. It's like
55:49
okay I'll grab some other ones. Yeah it used to
55:51
be pretty loosey. It was pretty fluid. But that was
55:53
that was a really. So the stuff that I have
55:55
is going to be like ancient. I would say these
55:57
days the vast majority of what I'm meaning on on
55:59
camera. I am memeing on. Yeah. It's
56:03
mostly the yeah, it's mostly gonna be the really
56:05
old stuff This
56:08
is why Luke hasn't gotten an upgrade yet says Bell in
56:10
the chat. Yeah, I love it every day Sorry,
56:19
um, right so I had wanted to come back to the
56:21
labs website for a second here Because
56:23
we also have the written version. Yeah
56:25
that video Yeah, which I didn't mention
56:27
before so, you know, that's pretty cool
56:31
but it's just like we want to make
56:33
it so that this work that we're doing is
56:37
digestible easily by as many people as
56:39
possible so we have the written version which is
56:41
as Deep as it's
56:43
gonna get basically and then there's
56:45
also the video version for people that don't
56:47
like reading stuff Yeah, depending
56:50
on you know, what part of the world
56:52
you live in you might be more interested in 115 volt versus 230
56:55
volt Poxication productivity
56:57
might also be easier for you to just
56:59
like Google translate the labs website Yeah,
57:02
that way. Yeah, exactly. So we got that there
57:04
and then this is really cool They also did
57:06
that that an aunt aunt aunt aunt
57:09
and this is co-authored by
57:11
oni our test technician and
57:14
Lucas who is our power supply wizard
57:19
That is to help you power
57:21
up your knowledge and it's basically
57:23
a how to how to watch
57:26
how to read Cool,
57:28
right where they go through our graphing formats
57:30
kind of explain why we've laid
57:32
them out the way that we have how to interpret
57:34
them What matters what doesn't
57:37
this old man? This was This
57:40
was an entire probably half an hour to 45 minutes
57:42
of a meeting this this
57:46
graph and Breaking the sine wave
57:49
and the interruption during the brown out
57:51
off onto this separate graph and
57:55
I got to make one of my best jokes ever in a
57:57
meeting that I think I already alluded to on WAN show before
58:00
So I won't make the best of you suffer. Yeah, I thought
58:02
that was wrong. Hold on one second I think I think you
58:04
slipped on his title is
58:06
senior content writer net technician. Oh Sorry,
58:09
sorry, sorry write it right or right. Yep. Thank you. Thank
58:11
you. Thank you. Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry Sorry, he was
58:13
just focusing on the next thing he was gonna say Sorry,
58:18
honey, yeah and do
58:20
your GPU that you got consolation
58:22
prize something She
58:25
was in a video. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, yeah,
58:27
yeah. No, I thought it was a
58:30
pretty sick Anywho,
58:34
so yeah, there was that there was a lot
58:36
of debate about this graph And
58:40
like, you know how to make it more readable So
58:42
yeah, we gave a lot of thought to it And
58:44
if you guys want to know what the thinking was
58:46
and how to interpret it This is a really great
58:48
primer on how to understand if a
58:50
power supply is any good Very
58:54
exciting. Okay. What do you want to talk about next? We're
58:58
off Merch messages, right? We're
59:00
doing other topics. I want to talk
59:02
about the paper set. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
59:04
I want to talk about I just
59:06
read What's on the prompter? Fuck you,
59:08
San Diego the arm windows revolution might
59:10
compact with a privacy nightmare. Oh, I
59:13
know right Okay. All right do
59:15
this. So this was the topic that hit me
59:17
this week I dove into this a little bit,
59:19
but I'm gonna read these notes first and then
59:21
I'll tangent into whatever I'm thinking of This
59:23
week Microsoft officially unveiled its new
59:26
lineup of laptops featuring Qualcomm's 12
59:28
core Snapdragon X Elite and 10
59:32
core Snapdragon X plus chips
59:35
All of which are based on arm. That's like the
59:37
big drop here These laptops
59:39
reportedly have a battery life of
59:41
17 to 20 hours and several
59:44
apparently outperform an M3
59:46
MacBook Air a sorry,
59:48
Suse Dell HP in spiron. I thought
59:50
it was HP in spiron It's
59:53
in spiron a different brand in spiron is
59:56
a Dell brand. So I don't know don't worry about
59:58
it Samsung and Lenovo have
1:00:00
likewise announced new Snapdragon powered laptops,
1:00:02
laptop lineups as well. These
1:00:08
laptops will launch with native
1:00:10
ARM versions of Adobe Photoshop,
1:00:13
Lightroom, Firefly and Express. It's
1:00:16
an interesting setup to not
1:00:18
have Premiere, but it does say
1:00:20
with Premiere and Illustrator coming later
1:00:22
in the summer. Microsoft is no
1:00:25
longer calling these AI PCs, instead
1:00:27
calling them Co-Pilot Plus PCs. Which
1:00:30
really makes me think of GNU
1:00:32
Plus Linux, but anyways. The
1:00:35
company is heavily emphasizing their AI
1:00:38
capabilities, including uncontroversial features like AI
1:00:40
upscaling, but also a recall feature.
1:00:48
This is the one that stood out
1:00:50
to me that has raised some concerns
1:00:52
among privacy advocates. Recall
1:00:57
gives Co-Pilot a kind of literal
1:00:59
photographic memory by taking
1:01:01
an automatic screenshot every
1:01:03
three seconds. This would
1:01:06
store around three months of a
1:01:08
user's recent activity by default. According
1:01:10
to Microsoft, the feature can be
1:01:12
turned on or off and
1:01:14
these snapshots, which the vast majority of
1:01:16
Windows users will never turn it off, because
1:01:19
the vast majority of Windows users never go into
1:01:21
settings and change anything. So keep that in mind.
1:01:24
So you might, most people won't. These
1:01:28
snapshots are encrypted and stored locally
1:01:30
and may be deleted at any
1:01:32
time. Further, users can create blacklists
1:01:34
that prevent recall from taking screenshots
1:01:37
when certain apps or websites are
1:01:39
open. Likewise, these
1:01:41
images are tied to specific user
1:01:43
profiles on the device. Critics,
1:01:46
however, have expressed concern
1:01:48
that the feature could still wind
1:01:50
up capturing sensitive information because of
1:01:53
Coors or
1:02:00
uses a public device with this feature
1:02:02
enabled. The UK's Information
1:02:04
Commissioner's Office has announced that
1:02:06
it will be making inquiries
1:02:08
into potential security issues posed
1:02:10
by the feature. I
1:02:13
mean, this is one of those topics
1:02:16
where we read the thing and then I think
1:02:18
we basically go, that's bad.
1:02:20
Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:23
Yeah. Elijah
1:02:27
in chat, who I don't like
1:02:29
acknowledging because he's supposed to be working, but it's
1:02:31
after hours, so I guess it's fine. Elijah says
1:02:34
for his AMD Ultimate Tech upgrade, which by
1:02:36
the way is coming, oh, he's
1:02:39
gonna switch to Linux over
1:02:42
this feature. Oh. And
1:02:45
you know what? Oh, the base. I don't even blame
1:02:47
him. Base. Even though you can turn it off,
1:02:49
it's like, yeah, you can turn it off now. And
1:02:51
then Windows will update and it'll turn it back on and
1:02:53
it won't tell you. And
1:02:56
we've seen it time and time and time and time again. And
1:02:59
you know what? I think with, man,
1:03:01
with the way that things are developing
1:03:03
right now. Man, that's so based.
1:03:06
On game compatibility on
1:03:08
Linux. My understanding,
1:03:10
and I haven't talked to Emily about
1:03:12
this much, but I have a little
1:03:14
bit because she's been pushing me to
1:03:16
do another SteamOS gaming check-in, or not
1:03:18
SteamOS, gaming on Linux check-in. Okay.
1:03:20
Because it's been a little while. And I kept saying,
1:03:22
look, I wanna do it when SteamOS gets released broadly
1:03:24
and she's all like, yeah, but like, is that ever
1:03:26
gonna happen? I've been like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:03:28
yeah. Now I'm not, I don't know, who knows? Good
1:03:30
question. Yeah, it's a good question. So anyway, we're gonna
1:03:32
do it. But
1:03:35
from that conversation, she was basically saying,
1:03:37
yeah, and Nvidia driver support is looking
1:03:39
like it's gonna get a
1:03:41
lot better, like soon, like they care. Dude,
1:03:47
like is Linux going
1:03:49
to be the gaming
1:03:51
operating system? Wait. And
1:03:55
Windows becomes the like, or like
1:03:57
is Linux gonna be the like
1:03:59
the X80. gaming operating system
1:04:01
and his windows, I mean, looking
1:04:03
how hard Microsoft is pushing,
1:04:05
are they going to become like
1:04:07
the arm, the arm productivity, you
1:04:10
know, operating system, the mobile, like
1:04:12
laptop only operating system. Or computers.
1:04:15
And here's what's really confusing to me about this
1:04:18
is why is Microsoft so focused
1:04:20
on beating the MacBook? Oh,
1:04:22
dude, doesn't this- What the f*** is Apple's market
1:04:25
share even? This interview opens with him talking to
1:04:27
Apple. I know! I know!
1:04:29
It's like the line, it mentions Apple
1:04:31
directly. It's weird. But
1:04:33
here's the thing. This
1:04:38
is Apple's market share according to
1:04:40
Statista. Yeah.
1:04:44
It's like, what's the- what
1:04:46
are you doing? So f***ing what? It's
1:04:50
like Intel at the
1:04:52
prime of their market share, which
1:04:55
was not that long ago. They Intel at the height,
1:04:57
the prime of their market share, opening
1:04:59
a new feature talk by naming
1:05:01
AMD. Why? Like, what are you
1:05:03
doing? You already dominate. It's
1:05:05
weird. I don't know, man. And
1:05:08
I like- Yeah. Dude. Oh,
1:05:17
apparently this is- this is in the United States
1:05:19
too. So that's going to be way higher
1:05:22
than it is worldwide. Yeah, 100%. I
1:05:25
get it. Their competition
1:05:27
or whatever else. But
1:05:30
at the end of the day, you're kind
1:05:32
of chasing this minority
1:05:37
shareholder or not
1:05:39
shareholder, but
1:05:42
a holder of market share. I
1:05:46
don't know. And you know what? Look, it's capitalism,
1:05:48
baby. You got to grow. And
1:05:51
taking some of Apple, like taking 10% like this
1:05:53
is the thing. If
1:05:56
they can take 10% of the sales that
1:05:58
would have been a MacBook. Okay, they grow
1:06:00
their market share in the US by 1.6%. And
1:06:04
I get it, you gotta show growth. But
1:06:07
do you even think that this is the
1:06:09
solution to that? Because I don't know. I
1:06:11
think the solution to that is making really
1:06:14
good AI stuff that works better on our
1:06:16
processes, convincing people to upgrade. Because people have,
1:06:19
we know that from the COVID era, people
1:06:21
bought a bunch of stuff and they don't
1:06:23
need to upgrade it, because there's no point.
1:06:25
Here comes the hot take. But make things
1:06:27
that are worth upgrading your hardware for. You
1:06:30
know what I think is happening right now?
1:06:32
I think that Microsoft is contributing to a
1:06:34
significant improvement in Qualcomm Mindshare among
1:06:36
computer buyers that is ultimately going to
1:06:38
be exploited by Google. You
1:06:42
ready for this? You're falling back on your
1:06:44
Chromebook thing. Chromebooks. If
1:06:46
you wanted a machine where battery
1:06:48
life was of the utmost importance, are
1:06:50
you gonna be running Windows anyway? No.
1:06:54
Chrome OS supports
1:06:57
Linux applications now. Chrome OS
1:06:59
supports Steam. Gaming
1:07:02
on Linux is getting better. All of
1:07:04
these things are happening right now.
1:07:06
So is Emily saying that there has been, because
1:07:09
I have it looked. So this is not me
1:07:11
countering to be super, super clear before it, because
1:07:13
you know the Linux people can get a little
1:07:15
defensive sometimes. I'm not relaxed. Is
1:07:17
Emily saying that there's been significant steps since
1:07:19
we did our challenge? Yeah. Because
1:07:23
I would love to switch. I
1:07:26
would love to switch. It just
1:07:28
wasn't quite there. If
1:07:31
it's there, I'm gone. Because
1:07:34
honestly, I don't mind Windows at all. I actually kind of
1:07:36
like Windows 11 in a lot of different ways. And I
1:07:38
know people hate Windows 11. I don't care, I enjoy it.
1:07:40
The things that I don't like are
1:07:43
this snapshot thing. Them, when you update
1:07:45
Windows, them overriding some of your settings
1:07:47
and changing things. Forcing ads into my
1:07:50
operating system, go away. And then making
1:07:52
search just the worst thing in the
1:07:54
world. Those things are the
1:07:56
only things I actually dislike. A lot of what
1:07:58
Windows done. Search is the worst
1:08:01
thing in the world. All right, maybe exaggerate
1:08:03
a little bit. But the ads is too
1:08:05
far. This snapshot thing, which you know it's
1:08:07
going to turn itself back on, is too
1:08:09
far. And the search being
1:08:11
trash and constantly searching the internet when I want it
1:08:13
to search local. And even when you
1:08:15
tell it to only search local, now it just can't
1:08:17
find things. Which
1:08:20
is crazy. There's
1:08:22
no reason for that. So yeah, I'd
1:08:24
love to bail out. I really like
1:08:26
mint, actually. I like using mint. My
1:08:28
biggest problem is constantly jumping
1:08:30
back and forth for applications,
1:08:34
mostly games. Some applications is
1:08:37
just really annoying. I
1:08:39
want an operating system that can do my stuff. I'm
1:08:43
excited. I
1:08:46
think the age of the Chromebook
1:08:48
is dawning. You're excited about Chromebook.
1:08:51
Well, it's Linux. It's
1:08:53
kind of cut down sh-t, Linux. So
1:08:55
you think by Chromebook taking over, Linux
1:08:57
will become stronger because of more contribution?
1:08:59
Look at the trajectory of Chrome OS.
1:09:02
Chrome OS started super, super
1:09:04
locked down. Basically only ran
1:09:06
Chrome. It started out with
1:09:09
all the devices having completely locked down
1:09:11
firmware. So you couldn't even install a
1:09:13
different operating system if you wanted to.
1:09:16
Now you can run Android apps on
1:09:18
it. You can run
1:09:20
Linux apps on it. I
1:09:23
believe some of them allow
1:09:25
alternate operating system installs
1:09:31
by default. Don't quote me on that last one. We
1:09:33
did a video on this recently. So it's
1:09:36
kind of in my brain, but has fallen out a little bit.
1:09:43
I think that if Google is smart, this
1:09:47
is their opportunity. Kids grow up using Chrome
1:09:49
OS. Millions and
1:09:51
millions and millions of kids grow
1:09:53
up using Chrome OS. And
1:09:55
so all Chrome OS has to
1:09:57
do is keep getting a little more.
1:10:00
more functional. Now, Google
1:10:02
is also a tech giant like Microsoft
1:10:04
and is absolutely capable of succumbing to
1:10:06
the same hubris as Microsoft and just
1:10:08
screwing up Chrome OS and making it
1:10:11
so bad that we couldn't possibly switch
1:10:13
to it. But no,
1:10:15
I absolutely do believe that
1:10:17
Linux is the beneficiary of
1:10:19
Chrome OS, gaining more
1:10:21
popularity. And Chrome OS stands to
1:10:24
be a beneficiary of Linux gaining
1:10:27
better support and gaining better
1:10:29
access to applications people want to run.
1:10:31
Yeah, 100%. One thing that's
1:10:33
interesting is as based
1:10:35
as Elijah's move is and
1:10:38
as much as if significant improvements have
1:10:40
been made, I would yet again be
1:10:42
happy to consider it at least. I
1:10:45
don't think most gamers are going to care. What
1:10:48
about productivity? I
1:10:50
think workplaces are going to stay on Windows for
1:10:52
the foreseeable future. That's my problem, yeah. We
1:10:57
can't run WAN show on Linux, unfortunately.
1:10:59
Yeah. What doesn't
1:11:02
work? OK, so that's an interesting
1:11:04
one. Handyman in flow playing chat
1:11:06
linked me something that is pretty cool, which is worksonwoa.com.
1:11:12
And then in this particular instance slash games.
1:11:16
I go to my laptop. You can search
1:11:18
the games that will work on
1:11:20
Windows. I think it's 100 Asian cats. I
1:11:22
have no idea. Some game. OK. I
1:11:25
know the north analog. Yeah, that's fun. Yeah, I
1:11:27
like that. So like some of these,
1:11:31
you see the amount of games on Steam. There's going to be
1:11:33
some weird names. I'm not talking
1:11:35
about the, there's seven ways to die. I don't know. It's
1:11:39
a game. I
1:11:43
haven't heard of a lot of these, but
1:11:45
it is what it is. But yeah, there's
1:11:47
already sites popping up like this. What's the home
1:11:49
page? What else is on here? Oh, just
1:11:51
games. Cool. Can
1:11:54
you sort by category popular, like games you've
1:11:56
heard of? Is that a thing? Or OK.
1:12:02
Looks pretty bare bones for now, but in the
1:12:04
long term. There's 1,348 results. I'm
1:12:08
expecting they're not all tagged properly. That makes
1:12:10
sense. So the category stuff is
1:12:13
probably not working great. Interesting
1:12:15
site. What do you want to search for? How
1:12:19
about that? Let's go with Dark
1:12:21
Souls. Cool.
1:12:27
Cool. Hmm.
1:12:34
Close. It got rain. I mean,
1:12:37
it's better than Windows Search. It's just extremely fuzzy,
1:12:39
fuzzy search. It's
1:12:42
comfy blanket search. Yeah, I don't know.
1:12:45
That's neat. But it's
1:12:48
coming along. I just... I
1:12:53
don't like this. I
1:12:56
care. I appreciate that
1:12:59
it's stored locally. Yeah, but some of the stuff... Stored locally does
1:13:01
not mean secure. Encrypted
1:13:04
does not mean secure. Do you hear the argument? Nothing
1:13:06
is impenetrable. Nothing is fully secure. Do you hear the
1:13:08
argument for why we should be okay with it? Because
1:13:12
this is all just coming anyway and
1:13:15
we should just kind of deal with it. Everyone's going
1:13:17
to have an equivalent thing. Like,
1:13:20
man, we're talking about them having
1:13:22
capabilities like, I forgot my password
1:13:24
for my mobile operator's
1:13:26
online portal. What is
1:13:28
it? Cortana? You
1:13:32
can't be storing that
1:13:34
stuff. Yeah. It's
1:13:37
sketch. Yeah, this interview on Bloomberg
1:13:40
Television... I think
1:13:42
this is the interview at least. At
1:13:45
some point in time, the interviewer asks
1:13:47
Satya Nadella... Is this it? Yeah,
1:13:50
I think so. I'm not ever since
1:13:52
this is the right one, but I think it is. At
1:13:54
some point in time in the video,
1:13:57
she asks him... creepy
1:14:00
basically and he responds with
1:14:02
effectively what Linus just said which is like I
1:14:04
don't know AI stuff is going to be like
1:14:06
this so get used to it. Not
1:14:09
obviously not exactly that very PR
1:14:11
speedy. Yeah he wordsnipped it quite a bit better
1:14:13
than that. Yes but that's basically the point. I'm
1:14:15
not nominating you for new CEO of Microsoft. Although
1:14:19
they might go in a good direction with you at
1:14:21
the helm. I don't know if they'd make money though.
1:14:23
Probably not. Yeah. Yeah.
1:14:27
Oh a question. Syncplane
1:14:29
asks, hey can you ask Dan again what doesn't
1:14:31
work on Linux for WAN show? Yeah I'm very
1:14:34
curious about that. Oh that's the
1:14:36
vMix. That's basically just vMix. It
1:14:39
uses too much of the Windows libraries for
1:14:42
especially because almost all of it is
1:14:44
GPU. It's very very
1:14:46
stable because it's a pretty much 100% GPU compute. Someone's
1:14:49
this is one of the problems that we run into
1:14:52
and now I'm going to piss all the Linux people
1:14:54
off. So
1:14:56
there's a couple. We
1:14:58
start talking about how we could maybe adopt
1:15:00
Linux again and floatplane chat erupts with, you
1:15:02
should use this distro with this thing and
1:15:05
this blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.
1:15:08
That's scary for new users. And then the
1:15:10
other one is, tell
1:15:13
me the software that didn't work because
1:15:15
they know some way to magically get
1:15:17
it to function in some way somehow.
1:15:20
Yeah I'm running it on metal. I'm not going
1:15:22
to emulate an operating system underneath it. Yeah. There's
1:15:25
always that one program. And it
1:15:27
stops working and then we want to go live on
1:15:29
WAN show but it doesn't work so you have to
1:15:31
tinker with Linux to make it function. It's like, ahh.
1:15:33
Yeah. Or we could just spend $100 on
1:15:35
a Windows license. This is Windows
1:15:38
11 that has vMix installed on it
1:15:40
and Chrome. That is all that
1:15:42
is on this computer. This is why
1:15:44
business, I don't really see them moving.
1:15:47
And at home as well, there's always that
1:15:50
one program that I need to be using
1:15:52
that doesn't exist. You had a rough day
1:15:54
at work, driving home, three
1:15:56
different people cut you off, someone
1:15:59
scraped this idea or called. you're
1:16:01
upset, you go get some coffee and you spill it
1:16:03
and you finally get home, you just want to play
1:16:05
video games and you sit on your computer and they
1:16:07
won't work for some reason. And
1:16:10
it happened a lot, guys. I
1:16:14
think if you're being honest with yourselves, it
1:16:17
doesn't bother you because you enjoy the tinkering. There
1:16:20
is tinkering. Which is great. Which is fine. Fantastic.
1:16:22
I have lots of things that I do the
1:16:24
hard way because I enjoy it. I don't have
1:16:27
to paint my own motorcycle, believe it or not.
1:16:30
I'm doing it. I have pictures.
1:16:32
See, I was gonna say, speaking of which. I
1:16:34
put white on it. Nice. Primer?
1:16:38
Nope, it's primed gray. But
1:16:40
the frame needs to be painted white because
1:16:43
the pink that's gonna go over top of it
1:16:46
doesn't shine through as brightly if
1:16:49
it just goes on gray primer. I apparently don't have
1:16:51
pictures of it, so forget that. How
1:16:53
much longer do you think? The
1:16:55
paint shop keeps telling me today, bro.
1:16:59
Don't tell me today. Tell me tomorrow.
1:17:02
Give yourself some wiggle room for... Seven
1:17:06
or eight business days. They've been telling me I'll have it for
1:17:08
you today. Is
1:17:11
it today or is it... I don't
1:17:13
know. Yeah, it doesn't matter. Sometimes you have the
1:17:15
best intentions. I know. I'm waiting
1:17:17
on the mid coat and the effect coat and then
1:17:19
I can do the whole thing. Like I'm ready to
1:17:21
paint. That's exciting.
1:17:23
Yeah, I'm really excited. Someone
1:17:27
said, yeah, it's also perfectly okay to only partially
1:17:29
move to something if it doesn't work. I
1:17:32
hear that, but then like I said earlier in the show,
1:17:34
like I don't wanna be switching between operating systems all the
1:17:36
time. Why are we training up our level one technicians on
1:17:39
two operating systems? Yeah. No,
1:17:41
not man. We got grub on the computers
1:17:43
now and like, oh, you make a mistake
1:17:45
and now you won't boot. And I've dealt
1:17:47
with that before. I used to triple boot
1:17:49
between OSX, Windows, and
1:17:52
Linux on one machine. Back
1:17:54
when you could do the Hackintosh. Yeah. Yeah,
1:17:57
well, I worked for you. Obviously!
1:18:00
That's why we hired you! Yeah!
1:18:03
It sucks. I just want to go home and not
1:18:06
do work. Basically, there's
1:18:08
some significant bumps
1:18:10
to get over still. I'm sure those are... I mean,
1:18:12
I haven't touched it in a long time. I'm sure
1:18:15
those are still problems. But,
1:18:17
you know, the more bumps Microsoft puts
1:18:20
in front of Windows, eventually
1:18:22
those roads might start looking pretty similar. And
1:18:25
when they do, I think Linux starts to
1:18:27
win. Yeah.
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that was awful. one-upped
1:22:00
me apparently being Dan's dad.
1:22:03
Yeah, that was a little weird.
1:22:06
Is it too late for an abortion?
1:22:08
Like, why does he have a beard? I
1:22:11
came out of the womb with that bearded baby. Oh
1:22:15
boy. What
1:22:17
do you want to do next?
1:22:20
Three merch messages. Oh yeah, right. Sorry. Yes,
1:22:23
Dan. Yes, sir. Okay,
1:22:25
sir. Having trouble balancing work and time
1:22:27
with my partner. She says we compromised
1:22:29
on shared time too much, but I
1:22:31
made two-thirds versus last year. I
1:22:33
work odd hours to get overtime, but get
1:22:35
three days off. Advice. Three
1:22:39
days off is a lot. Right,
1:22:43
but do those hours always coincide with her time
1:22:45
off? Yeah. Because
1:22:47
if you have three days off, but you spend two of them,
1:22:49
like, gaming in your cave – and to be clear, I'm not
1:22:51
saying you're doing that. I'm just saying three days
1:22:53
off does not necessarily equate to three
1:22:55
days together. Totally. I
1:22:59
mean, that's a tough one. You
1:23:01
got to make time. Relationships do
1:23:03
not autopilot. You also
1:23:05
need to set realistic expectations.
1:23:08
Because as they said, I made two-thirds versus
1:23:10
last year. Economic times are
1:23:13
tough right now. You can't just, like,
1:23:15
not push. I
1:23:17
mean, I remember we talked – well, not we
1:23:19
didn't talk about it, but we alluded to it last
1:23:21
week when Yvonne was on the show with us. Yeah,
1:23:25
we had some really tough conversations. What
1:23:28
I often fell back on, in fact, being
1:23:31
across the hall from us with those
1:23:33
paper-thin walls, what I often –
1:23:35
you've probably heard me say this before, but what
1:23:37
I often alluded to was that old impression –
1:23:39
Sometimes they would go downstairs to the living room
1:23:41
area thinking that it did
1:23:43
anything. Anyway, I
1:23:47
often would talk about making hay while the
1:23:50
sun's shining. Like that's a
1:23:52
– if you have a good opportunity
1:23:54
now. But then you also can – depending on your
1:23:56
financial situation, you might not – if the sun's no
1:23:58
longer shining, you might – You may not have
1:24:00
an opportunity to. not a race that make a
1:24:03
anyway I in the answers kind of the same.
1:24:05
Either way I guess is like yeah at the
1:24:07
end of the day works is our modern equivalent
1:24:09
of going out and foraging for food and building
1:24:11
selter. Arm and like
1:24:13
if we don't do it, we don't. Eat.
1:24:16
And we don't have. Shelter. And
1:24:18
there are alternatives. You could be a
1:24:20
mountain man and you guys could go
1:24:22
to the mountain moon And you said
1:24:24
forage for food and build selter. Arm.
1:24:27
But what I suspect is that he doesn't
1:24:29
want to do that. Arm
1:24:32
and maybe. Maybe. In.
1:24:35
Which case, I hope you're ready for some.
1:24:37
Significant lifestyle adjustments might be sick you
1:24:39
will be watching when so much from
1:24:41
out there I like I will pass
1:24:44
some. Cats
1:24:46
Tough. I mean, I think that the
1:24:48
most important thing in any relationship in
1:24:50
any conflict is you gotta communicate. Your.
1:24:52
Holes got a court case. What are
1:24:54
my needs? What are your
1:24:57
needs? What are the real estate's. Ah,
1:25:00
I'm challenges that we face to Ah
1:25:02
to meet both of them. And what's
1:25:04
the closest that we can get to
1:25:06
a middle ground? Yeah. I'm
1:25:09
like you You're pointing out yourself. I may
1:25:11
two thirds vs. last year. Ah, it's you
1:25:13
may not be as. Financially. Minded
1:25:15
are financially focused on the I
1:25:17
find there's usually like one person
1:25:19
in the relationship that is more
1:25:21
cellulite for. For for.
1:25:24
You have on is more financially focused
1:25:26
I think. He's
1:25:28
better at it says prof say that much
1:25:30
of Richards. But I
1:25:32
okay man this is. this is one of those
1:25:34
things where I feel like in in trying to
1:25:37
make sure that people properly appreciate that Yvonne is
1:25:39
not just the boss's wife and take your way
1:25:41
to work day. I have talked a lot about
1:25:43
how good she is that that kind of stuff.
1:25:46
That's. Don't kid yourself, not some idiot
1:25:48
the like. Either.
1:25:51
I don't have a budget, things and
1:25:53
stuff so. Of meme
1:25:55
in on your but I love the problem
1:25:57
is that they don't know that the seems
1:25:59
to fairness. There seem to be a lot of people
1:26:01
that when I build someone else up and
1:26:03
I kind of have like I have kind of a
1:26:06
self-deprecating style of humor. People
1:26:09
seem to take it at face value which well
1:26:15
hey. I see
1:26:17
you and that's okay my literal
1:26:19
friends. My point was it
1:26:22
might be a good idea to sit down
1:26:24
with the books. With her. Try
1:26:27
to explain or with them. Try
1:26:29
to explain oh
1:26:32
no it says she. Yeah. Try
1:26:35
to explain like this is why okay I made
1:26:38
two-thirds versus last year. These are my financial goals
1:26:40
over the next while which will put us in
1:26:42
these financial positions where retirement
1:26:44
might be more comfy. We might
1:26:46
be able to rent
1:26:50
a better place or buy a better place
1:26:52
or buy a place at all or do
1:26:54
whatever have more financial insulation if
1:26:56
something bad happens. Say one of us loses a
1:26:58
job this will give us more of a runway
1:27:00
like explain all of these different types of things.
1:27:02
But if I could give a little bit of
1:27:04
advice don't man-plain it ask questions. Totally.
1:27:07
Ask questions like in the event
1:27:09
that one of us lost a job how
1:27:11
long would you expect us to take to
1:27:14
get a new job and how
1:27:16
much of what we're making now would we be willing
1:27:18
to settle for? Ask questions like
1:27:20
that layout a scenario and then do the
1:27:22
math together rather than doing it all ahead
1:27:24
of time and basically giving a presentation because that can
1:27:26
that can have a little bit of the ick. Totally
1:27:29
that makes sense. Yeah.
1:27:32
Yeah I worked with them on it I don't know. I'm
1:27:36
showing my seven-year-old some games from my
1:27:38
own childhood for example roller coaster tycoon
1:27:40
worms and age of empires 2. How
1:27:43
has your children responded to older
1:27:45
games like these as they grew
1:27:48
older? Did any really get into
1:27:50
some? I
1:27:54
haven't played older games with my kids
1:27:56
that much but what I will
1:27:58
say is they tend to enjoy things
1:28:01
the most when you do it with them. So
1:28:03
if you just give them roller coaster tycoon and
1:28:05
walk away, I doubt that's gonna be very effective.
1:28:07
But if you sit and make coasters with them,
1:28:10
that will be super effective.
1:28:12
Like, my son would never
1:28:14
pick up Liero on his own. Like,
1:28:17
he doesn't, he could. But
1:28:19
he loves playing it with me. So
1:28:22
that's the kind of thing you gotta do, right? If you want
1:28:24
them to kind of enjoy the same things as you and you
1:28:26
wanna kind of make that connection, just make sure that you understand
1:28:28
it has to go both ways. I've had
1:28:30
to spend more time than I otherwise
1:28:32
would have playing Minecraft Dungeons because
1:28:35
my kids like it. And it's, what,
1:28:39
it's Diablo, right? Like, it's just
1:28:41
stupid, just click on everything, dungeon
1:28:43
crawler game, right? And to
1:28:45
be clear, if you enjoy Minecraft Dungeons, that's fine,
1:28:47
there's good gameplay mechanics. And I'm sure at like
1:28:50
a high level, you can be good at it
1:28:52
and stuff. It's not just click on things or whatever.
1:28:54
Like, some of the raids are pretty
1:28:56
challenging and like, we got wiped and
1:28:58
stuff. So no disrespect intended.
1:29:01
It's just not really my genre. And
1:29:04
I've played a lot more of it than I would have if my
1:29:06
kids hadn't asked me to. Right.
1:29:10
And let's see, what's our last one
1:29:12
here? Hello, Dalu Lee. I
1:29:15
recently sent my 89 civic
1:29:17
hatchback into a tree at 35 miles an
1:29:19
hour, a day before I went on vacation.
1:29:22
Have you had anything catastrophic happen before
1:29:24
an event but found a way to go
1:29:26
anyway? What
1:29:28
a specific question. Oh
1:29:31
no. Before
1:29:35
an event, I mean, I'm
1:29:37
sure I've had something terrible happen before an event. I
1:29:39
mean, you get sick anytime you go anywhere. So that's
1:29:41
kind of catastrophic. Yeah, I'm worried. Remember that time you
1:29:43
went to Japan and then just stayed in your hotel
1:29:45
room the whole time? That was Taiwan.
1:29:48
Taiwan, sure, whatever. That's where I'm going again.
1:29:50
Nice. Hopefully I don't get sick again. I thought
1:29:53
you also had to stay in your hotel room a lot in Japan. Yeah,
1:29:55
so I'm not wrong. So I haven't not been.
1:30:00
Why am I being so defensive right now? I
1:30:04
haven't not been sick during a vacation for three
1:30:06
years. Nice. We're rolling
1:30:08
the dice again. Nice. Seeing
1:30:11
how it goes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe it'll work
1:30:13
out. You got... I'm
1:30:15
not sick, don't worry. Thanks. Unless
1:30:18
I am. We'll find out
1:30:20
soon. Yeah, I mean, it'll affect me too, I
1:30:22
guess. Let's hope neither of us is sick. Yes.
1:30:25
Um... I
1:30:27
don't know. It's happened a bunch of times. Tell me this. I
1:30:31
don't really want to give examples. Tell me this. Okay. Now,
1:30:35
obviously, I'm not going to ask you if you're going
1:30:37
to wear a cloth square on your face. But
1:30:40
would you consider using
1:30:42
one of the, like, organic particulate filters,
1:30:44
like I have for my painting booth? Would
1:30:47
you consider wearing one of those on the plane? Because
1:30:49
close quarters on a plane? Look,
1:30:52
I don't give a f*** if you believe
1:30:54
that COVID was a government conspiracy or whatever.
1:30:58
I actually don't care. The
1:31:00
cold, hard truth is that proximity,
1:31:03
especially over an extended period of time,
1:31:05
to people who are infected with any
1:31:07
kind of even remotely airborne illness, increases
1:31:10
the chances of you getting sick. No.
1:31:15
If you're going to say anything other than that
1:31:17
being near sick people makes you sick, you're actually
1:31:19
stupid and you can go away. So
1:31:22
if you were to wear, like, a
1:31:24
real filtering mask, if that was an
1:31:26
option, because it is, they're like a
1:31:28
hundred bucks. And the cartridges are much
1:31:30
cheaper. They're like interchangeable cartridges. Yeah, I
1:31:33
have one. I used to use it
1:31:35
for working with cement. How badly do you not want to
1:31:37
get sick? I think
1:31:40
not badly enough to wear that. Really?
1:31:43
Which is funny because I actually find them wildly
1:31:45
more comfortable to wear. Yeah,
1:31:48
they're not that uncomfortable. But people,
1:31:50
like, hate it so
1:31:53
much. I don't
1:31:55
know why. I tried it before. When
1:31:57
this whole thing first popped off, my
1:31:59
immediate... reaction was to go get
1:32:01
my old cement mask thing.
1:32:03
Yeah. Cause I'm like, they
1:32:06
have removable filters. I'll just buy the
1:32:08
N95 ones cause those exist. And
1:32:10
you can just click them in and then
1:32:13
I'm good, right? And the whole world was like,
1:32:15
no, we have to use these really annoying one
1:32:18
size fits all. They don't fit your head.
1:32:20
They're going to literally cut your ears masks. And
1:32:22
I'm like, why? Like when
1:32:24
I'm on planes, you know what I actually
1:32:26
do? Yeah. I wear those old
1:32:28
noise canceling headphones that you got
1:32:30
for us. Any 14? I
1:32:35
don't even remember. I don't remember when. You
1:32:37
bought everybody noise canceling headphones for trips like
1:32:39
a billion years ago. Oh, okay. I
1:32:43
still have those and I hooked the mask
1:32:45
around those. Oh,
1:32:47
that doesn't cut into my ears. Yeah. If
1:32:49
I don't, I've actually bled from masks before. Wow.
1:32:52
My head's too big. I've already printed a bunch of ear
1:32:55
saver masks. It's so annoying. And I'm the one
1:32:57
with the ego. Ha ha ha.
1:33:01
That makes sense. I did it before.
1:33:03
That was during COVID. They were the
1:33:06
blood people, the blood letting people. I
1:33:08
can't remember the cold, like life labs
1:33:10
and stuff like that. Oh,
1:33:12
blood letting people. You
1:33:14
mean the clinic? Yeah, the clinic where they
1:33:16
let your blood go into the tube. Do
1:33:18
you call your doctor a saw bones? It'd
1:33:22
be funny. It'd be very funny.
1:33:24
Dr. Sawbones, please. I have the, I have
1:33:27
the vapors. And
1:33:29
those worked really well because they were having to wear masks
1:33:31
like for 10, 12 hours a day and
1:33:34
they were all bleeding as well. So you could
1:33:37
try one of those, although they'd probably be pretty
1:33:39
silly. I don't know what happened. I used to
1:33:41
get sick decently
1:33:43
often, enough that it was annoying,
1:33:45
but it would always be for like really short
1:33:47
periods of time. And it was like
1:33:49
usually pretty easy. Like I would get sick on like
1:33:52
a Thursday or a Friday and I'd be better again by
1:33:54
the time I'm back in our work on Monday. And I'd
1:33:56
like lose a weekend and it would suck, but like it
1:33:58
didn't really matter. And now. get sick
1:34:00
and it just doesn't go away for
1:34:02
so long. And like the
1:34:05
most recent two of them I tested and
1:34:07
they weren't COVID. So
1:34:09
like, it's just something. I have no idea. I
1:34:12
don't know, man. I, um, for me,
1:34:14
the, uh, I don't wear
1:34:16
a mask anymore because we don't have mandates
1:34:18
and lockdowns and there's, you know, there's, there's
1:34:20
a lot more certainty about, uh, COVID
1:34:23
and its various, uh, its various changes over the
1:34:25
years and all of that. So I'm, I'm a
1:34:27
lot less worried about it. Um,
1:34:30
I mean, it's, it's the unknown that was, that
1:34:32
was the reason for a lot of the protective
1:34:34
measures we didn't know, you know, what it
1:34:36
was going to do. We didn't know what the impacts were going to
1:34:38
be long-term. Um, so
1:34:40
I don't, I don't wear a mask anymore, but
1:34:42
what I do still do is I wash my
1:34:44
hands way more than I used to. That's
1:34:47
a new one for me. I never get sick anymore.
1:34:50
Think about it. When's the last time you saw
1:34:52
me miss a day of work? Cause I'm sick. Yeah. Like basically
1:34:54
never. Remember. And in the old days
1:34:56
I used to work anyway, but I,
1:34:58
you go back to some of the old videos and
1:35:00
I'm like, Oh, so you get like, there's no voice
1:35:02
and stuff. Dude, I never get
1:35:04
sick anymore. Washing your hands more.
1:35:06
And it's not like I was like a
1:35:08
dirty, gross, disgusting person before anything. Like I
1:35:10
wash my hands when I use the bathroom and
1:35:13
stuff like that. But I switched my mentality.
1:35:16
I used to wash my hands whenever
1:35:18
I did something dirty. Now
1:35:21
I wash my hands before
1:35:23
I'm about to do something that requires
1:35:25
cleanliness. Yes. And also that. Yeah.
1:35:28
And that has made probably the
1:35:30
biggest difference out of every behavioral.
1:35:34
I'm also really hardcore about, um,
1:35:36
uh, when
1:35:39
I go to the gym, I'm really hardcore about
1:35:41
not touching my face with my hands. Sometimes
1:35:45
I might, you know, there's sweat or whatever I'll
1:35:47
use like my arm. I'll do it, but I'll
1:35:49
make sure that I've washed my hands first. Well,
1:35:51
I'll do that. But then at the gym, you're
1:35:53
touching things in the gym. There's no way. Yeah.
1:35:55
So I, I, I pre-wiped down every surface that
1:35:58
I use in the gym, including bars. like
1:36:00
barbells, whatever else. And then even
1:36:03
despite that, if I need to touch my face, I'll
1:36:05
use like, you know, you do
1:36:07
this with your hands so you can have a point
1:36:10
with this part of the wrist. And then I'll like
1:36:12
use that if I need to or just my, the
1:36:14
whole back of my arm or whatever. Like I'll find
1:36:16
some way to not use the inside of my hand
1:36:18
without touching things with. Unique username reminds
1:36:20
me that you just had a UTI line. Sorry
1:36:22
for the reminder, I did. But
1:36:24
that's not related to transmissible.
1:36:27
Although there are person
1:36:30
to person transmission things that
1:36:32
can cause a UTI, which actually
1:36:35
reminds me of the time that
1:36:37
my doctor in front of
1:36:39
me basically told
1:36:41
me, Vaughn, oh honey, he's
1:36:43
cheating on you. Have I
1:36:45
never told you this story? No. What?
1:36:49
Anyway, antibiotics, they're a
1:36:51
miracle. I'm fine now, thank you. As
1:36:53
far as the UTI goes. Oh. Sorry,
1:36:58
Keith. Oh
1:37:01
no. But I got
1:37:03
an unrelated blood test for something. What's
1:37:05
happening? I got an
1:37:08
unrelated blood test for something or
1:37:10
other. And
1:37:12
I tested positive for, I'm gonna get all
1:37:14
the details wrong because I am not a
1:37:17
doctor and it doesn't matter to
1:37:19
me in my daily life. But I
1:37:21
tested positive for like the
1:37:24
association of
1:37:28
proteins or
1:37:30
the antibodies or something of
1:37:33
one of the hepatitis. And
1:37:38
basically, whichever one it is, it's one
1:37:41
that you, that
1:37:43
is sexually transmitted. So
1:37:46
I went in for this totally unrelated
1:37:48
blood test. It was probably something to
1:37:50
do with getting
1:37:53
my blood tested to figure out if I
1:37:55
had arthritis because I had these issues with
1:37:58
inflammation in my knees and now. they
1:38:00
think it was juvenile rheumatoid arthritis.
1:38:03
It's kind of gone into remission. It'll probably come back
1:38:05
with a vengeance when I'm old but for now, I'm
1:38:07
doing pretty great. Anyway,
1:38:10
so I was probably in for a blood test for
1:38:12
that or something. They
1:38:14
basically go, okay, but you've got this antigen
1:38:16
or protein or something. It was something to
1:38:18
do with one of the hepatitis's. They
1:38:22
basically go, okay, so what does that
1:38:25
mean? They're basically like, well,
1:38:27
it usually indicates
1:38:30
that you've had at some
1:38:33
point this sexually
1:38:38
transmitted disease and
1:38:41
Yvonne pipes up and she goes, okay, but
1:38:43
he hasn't because I don't and
1:38:46
I never have. She
1:38:48
kind of goes, well,
1:38:54
that's how you get it. So
1:38:56
I think you guys might have to have a conversation
1:38:58
about this. And
1:39:03
look, for me and Yvonne, it's perfectly normal
1:39:05
and acceptable for us to have a meeting
1:39:07
with our doctor, like with each other. But
1:39:11
for her to basically like, and it really
1:39:13
was that obvious. So
1:39:16
we left, obviously Yvonne and I have
1:39:18
a lot of trust in our relationship because as we
1:39:20
were leaving, I was like,
1:39:23
no, and she's like, yeah, I know. But
1:39:28
Yvonne having a background in pharmacy,
1:39:30
having an actual medical background herself,
1:39:32
oh man, that's something that I
1:39:35
think makes me more angry than
1:39:37
almost anything else. And
1:39:41
I don't know what it is. I don't
1:39:43
know if it's the general, you know,
1:39:45
arrogance that you can see with doctors
1:39:47
sometimes. I don't know if it's like
1:39:49
a misogyny thing. I don't
1:39:51
know what it is, but the number
1:39:53
of times that I have had to stand there while a
1:39:59
medical professional talks
1:40:01
down to Yvonne when
1:40:04
she clearly understands everything that's going on
1:40:06
very easily, especially when they're talking about
1:40:08
drugs, for me to pipe in and go,
1:40:10
she's a pharmacist,
1:40:13
you don't have to explain what a corticosteroid
1:40:15
is. You can move on.
1:40:18
And for them to keep going through it, explaining
1:40:20
to her like she is three years old, I
1:40:24
don't think anything makes me more angry than that.
1:40:26
So the point is this doctor who I
1:40:28
probably have had that conversation with already because
1:40:32
I understand these things pretty well, whether
1:40:34
it's from just paying attention in school
1:40:36
or it's from taking some first year
1:40:39
biology classes or from doing flashcards with
1:40:41
Yvonne. I've picked up a lot. I
1:40:43
don't need someone to explain to me
1:40:45
what an anti-inflammatory is. I don't need
1:40:47
someone to explain to me what an
1:40:50
NSAID is. I know
1:40:52
what these things are. Aren't
1:40:55
you paid by the number of patients you see? Let's
1:40:57
do this thing. So I tend to jump
1:40:59
in with that. She's a pharmacist. You don't have to
1:41:02
explain this. She knows what aspirin is. Let's
1:41:04
move on. Anyway,
1:41:06
so Yvonne starts asking probing
1:41:09
questions. So dismissive.
1:41:12
The doctor was so dismissive
1:41:15
of her questions where she was basically probing for,
1:41:17
okay, well, what are the other? The
1:41:19
doctor was treating her like she was basically asking
1:41:21
if she could get pregnant from a toilet seat.
1:41:24
Is that how he got it? But
1:41:27
what she was actually asking for is, okay,
1:41:29
look, I'm a little rusty on the antigens
1:41:31
versus the proteins versus the antibodies. Is
1:41:33
there some other thing that could have caused
1:41:35
it? And
1:41:37
as it turns out, when
1:41:40
we went for another blood test and
1:41:42
we came back for the results, the
1:41:45
doctor with no apology whatsoever for the
1:41:47
incredibly awkward situation she'd created that could
1:41:49
have in a different relationship caused a
1:41:51
pretty big stir. Okay. Because
1:41:54
even if it, even if you did end
1:41:56
up figuring out that it wasn't true, irreparable
1:41:58
damage could have been done. No apology whatsoever.
1:42:00
is basically like, yeah,
1:42:03
he like had, he
1:42:05
had some exposure to it at some
1:42:07
point through a vaccine and
1:42:11
had the whatever's, but
1:42:14
we didn't check for that last time so I didn't know.
1:42:16
F*** you.
1:42:19
Like you actually don't get to do that, that's
1:42:22
not cool. And don't worry, I have
1:42:24
a new doctor now. That was
1:42:26
a, it was a clinic doctor. I hate
1:42:28
going to walk-in clinics. It's basically- But we
1:42:30
didn't have a family doctor at that time
1:42:32
between the two of us and
1:42:34
my, technically still my family
1:42:36
doctor's like out in mission because he was
1:42:39
my family doctor from before Yvonne and
1:42:41
I like moved to not mission so
1:42:43
like I just didn't have one yet and I
1:42:46
was super young and super healthy. Mine is super
1:42:48
far away, like 45 minutes. Yeah, it sucks. Am
1:42:50
I, the walk-in clinic- Four minutes from the office
1:42:52
baby, I looked out. That's amazing.
1:42:56
Dude, she tried to call me on a weekend about
1:42:58
my results for the UTI thing. She like calls me
1:43:00
on a Saturday. I don't pick up because I don't
1:43:02
answer my phone because it's leaked a thousand times and
1:43:04
I just give up on changing my phone number at
1:43:06
this point. So she calls
1:43:08
me on a Saturday. I don't pick up. She
1:43:11
texts me. She's like, yo, I dealt with
1:43:13
all your stuff. Go pick it up at this pharmacy. It's the one
1:43:15
near you I checked. Holy crap.
1:43:17
She is absolutely based. I love
1:43:20
my doctor
1:43:24
and she's like my age. So I
1:43:26
basically, as long as she doesn't retire,
1:43:29
Dr. T. As
1:43:34
long as she doesn't retire, I'm keeping
1:43:37
her for life. She's awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
1:43:39
the only at this point, the only reason why
1:43:41
I go into a walk-in is if I am
1:43:44
a hundred percent confident what's going on, I'll
1:43:46
go in and like tell them and then they can get
1:43:48
me whatever. Yeah, a lot of them argue with you anyway,
1:43:50
though. Honestly, the one that I
1:43:52
go to, usually they just like verify really quick and they're
1:43:55
like, okay, sure. And then that's pretty good because I have
1:43:57
this prompt. I've explained this to you before my like your
1:43:59
canals are kind of weird. I can't
1:44:01
have the squishy ear buds because they just fall out.
1:44:04
I also sometimes have a hard time when
1:44:07
I get off of planes sometimes my ear just won't
1:44:09
pop. Oh, that's bad.
1:44:11
So I have to go in and like they help me
1:44:14
do it. Oh, that's rough. So I'll just like tell them
1:44:16
like this is the problem. This is
1:44:18
the way that you guys have successfully done it
1:44:20
in the past and let us be like, okay,
1:44:22
let us do it. That's pretty straightforward. It's like
1:44:24
cool. Yeah, walk in doctors or
1:44:26
just like any doctor that just like doesn't
1:44:28
care. It's such a kind of
1:44:32
it's a scourge, dude. I agree, but
1:44:34
I get it here because here we
1:44:36
have such an insane shortage. So they have five minutes
1:44:39
with you. How are they going to care if they
1:44:41
have five minutes? I get it. Five minutes, one question.
1:44:43
What are you going to how are you going to
1:44:45
get invested in this person? Like I
1:44:47
it sucks. Dr.
1:44:50
T, please don't leave me. Some
1:44:52
people are like time to switch doctors. It's
1:44:55
not that easy. That's not that easy. We
1:44:57
have a significant shortage and same shortage. She
1:44:59
probably doesn't have open spots. She probably has
1:45:01
a system where family can get added on.
1:45:04
So any of these families that are growing,
1:45:06
that's her new clientele. She can't bring on
1:45:08
more people. And it's really challenging because there's
1:45:10
dynamics at play that are not as simple
1:45:13
as just like, oh, I don't know. Why
1:45:15
don't you guys substitute our substitute? Why don't
1:45:17
you guys subsidize your doctor training programs? Like
1:45:19
it's not that simple. Like if you a lot
1:45:22
of the problem is that we have a brain drain down
1:45:24
to the United States where doctors make a lot more money.
1:45:27
But a lot of the reasons that doctors
1:45:29
make a lot more money is because of
1:45:31
how bloated and broken
1:45:34
the US medical system is. Like that
1:45:36
whole, you know, here's your $30
1:45:39
Band-Aid thing that goes on where
1:45:41
insurance companies where
1:45:43
there's where there's these outrageous fees that
1:45:45
are being charged because insurance companies will
1:45:48
just pay for it and then we'll
1:45:50
just, you know, build their subscribers
1:45:52
for it. Let that whole system
1:45:54
is hyper inefficient and
1:45:57
facilitates doctors who
1:45:59
will work. down there making way
1:46:02
more money such that a
1:46:04
more efficient system can't compete
1:46:06
with it. And to be
1:46:08
clear, I am not saying the Canadian system is efficient.
1:46:12
I am saying it is more efficient,
1:46:14
which is objectively true. I'm so
1:46:16
sorry, my American friends. And
1:46:19
they get like, some of them get like
1:46:21
super, super, super, super mad about anything to
1:46:23
do with that sounds even remotely critical of
1:46:25
anything about America. I apologize sincerely for that.
1:46:28
That is my Canadian way. But
1:46:32
your system is not very good. Yeah. Apparently
1:46:38
there is something called ear planes that can
1:46:40
like help with the thing that I have.
1:46:43
Maybe I will look into this. Some sort
1:46:45
of used station tube dysfunction? The Band-Aids have
1:46:47
freedom. I don't remember the name. I
1:46:50
figured it out with my doctor like I
1:46:52
think it was like the second time we went to CES so this would have been like
1:46:55
2013, 2020. That is why we have
1:46:57
guns so we can end it when we get sick.
1:47:00
Doesn't the Canadian government also recommend that? Some
1:47:02
of the Americans in our chat are spicy.
1:47:06
Yeah. All
1:47:08
right, guys. Yeah. Yeah. Langleyman
1:47:12
says, I have been waiting eight months for
1:47:14
an MRI for a rotator cuff injury. I
1:47:16
love Canadian healthcare. Yeah. Yeah. It
1:47:19
is not a perfect system. I will not even begin to pretend
1:47:21
it is a perfect system. It
1:47:26
turns out everything is corrupt wherever lots
1:47:28
of money is involved. Yeah. That
1:47:31
is what we learned. Yeah. Up
1:47:33
here the weights are brutal. When
1:47:35
I was really sick, I don't know, three
1:47:37
months ago, something like that. It
1:47:42
was like go to a walk-in and
1:47:44
they basically, I did once and they
1:47:46
were more or less like, I don't know.
1:47:51
Okay, cool. And
1:47:53
then I went to go schedule and point with my actual
1:47:55
doctor and he was like, well, it is
1:47:57
going to be like a month or a little bit more before I have an implant.
1:48:00
appointment open. Because
1:48:02
it's not an emergency. I
1:48:04
was clearly not dying. I
1:48:06
was just sick for a really long
1:48:08
time. He's like, well, you can book
1:48:10
an appointment. I was like, I'll probably be better by then. He's
1:48:12
like, yep. OK.
1:48:16
You can always book it and then cancel it
1:48:18
when you're close. And then an opening will be
1:48:21
available to someone who needs one soon. Just
1:48:24
saying, that's the system. We're
1:48:27
apparently supposed to do when after dark? We haven't even made
1:48:29
it through all our topics. Luke has to leave in 18
1:48:31
minutes. But we didn't even
1:48:33
talk about Google's AI siting the onion
1:48:36
and recommending the health benefits of drinking pee.
1:48:40
Google's AI overviews in search
1:48:42
appear to be drawing information
1:48:44
from very questionable sources with
1:48:47
limited discernment, including telling a
1:48:49
user to try making cheese
1:48:51
adhere better to their homemade
1:48:53
pizza to add about
1:48:55
1 eighth of a cup of Elmer's glue
1:48:57
in with the sauce. The source
1:48:59
for this wisdom appears to be an 11-year-old
1:49:02
Reddit comment made by user F**kSmith. AI
1:49:05
overviews likewise recommended eating at
1:49:08
least one small rock per
1:49:10
day, which an attributed to
1:49:13
UC Berkeley geologists. But it's actually a
1:49:15
recommendation made in a 2021 Onion
1:49:19
article. Another user
1:49:21
asked, what mammal has the most bones
1:49:24
and was instead told that snakes have
1:49:26
the most bones of any vertebrate? Not
1:49:29
a mammal, I'm afraid. These
1:49:31
errors included medical misinformation, such
1:49:33
as recommending smoking two to
1:49:35
three cigarettes a day while pregnant. Even
1:49:39
prior to the full rollout, AI overviews
1:49:41
were making similar mistakes, including telling at
1:49:43
least one user to drink large amounts
1:49:45
of urine in order to dislodge
1:49:47
a kidney stone. I mean, you can't prove it
1:49:49
wouldn't work. A
1:49:52
Google spokesperson says that the
1:49:54
mistakes came from generally
1:49:57
very uncommon queries. representative
1:50:00
of most people's experiences.
1:50:03
I mean that's the thing about hallucinations
1:50:05
in it. You see most
1:50:07
of the world as it
1:50:09
is except
1:50:11
for the ants that are calling out of your skin that cause
1:50:14
you to rip your skin off. You
1:50:16
know? Anywho, users can use the
1:50:18
web tab to remove these elements
1:50:20
or automate the process by changing
1:50:22
their browser settings to add UDM
1:50:25
equals 14 to the end of their
1:50:27
search URL. In other AI
1:50:29
news, the Chinese website for Cooler Master
1:50:31
is apparently advertising their new CryoFuse 5
1:50:33
product which comes in six different colors
1:50:36
as competitive AI thermal paste. The official
1:50:38
name for the product translates as thermal
1:50:40
paste AI sports lottery. Anywho,
1:50:43
they have apparently apologized for that and it was a
1:50:46
translation error or something but I just thought it was
1:50:48
funny to put in with our AI news. iFixit
1:50:51
has dumped Samsung. They're officially dropping them as
1:50:53
a partner saying the company seems unwilling to
1:50:55
make good face progress towards making its devices
1:50:58
more repairable. However, they will continue to provide
1:51:00
parts and repair kits for Samsung devices to
1:51:02
consumers. Since partnering
1:51:04
with iFixit two years ago, Samsung has
1:51:07
apparently kept parts price high and continued
1:51:09
to engage in unnecessary parts pairing. According
1:51:11
to a leaked contract, Samsung also required
1:51:14
independent repair shops to report the
1:51:16
personal information and repair details of
1:51:18
customers and to immediately disassemble Samsung
1:51:21
devices that were repaired with third-party
1:51:23
parts. So eat Samsung basically. I criticized
1:51:31
this kind of stuff when Apple does it and
1:51:33
I would spend a lot longer railing on this
1:51:35
except Luke has to go so dang.
1:51:38
Cold ones reviewed our screwdriver.
1:51:41
Oh really? Oh
1:51:44
Dan? We
1:51:46
tried every youtuber product. It's
1:51:50
a pretty sick video. This
1:51:56
is the LPT screwdriver. I mean nice.
1:51:58
Yep I'm a man. I'm a man.
1:52:00
I'm a man. Nice.
1:52:02
This really gets me going. Woah, that's fucking sick.
1:52:05
Look at this. Look at all you fucking bits
1:52:07
in there. Nice clean. Have you tried it out?
1:52:09
Have you tested it? Oh no, I just keep
1:52:11
swizzling it. It's good as like an autism toy.
1:52:15
This is good. I would love to put
1:52:17
a PC together with this. Yeah. If you
1:52:19
got the wrong screw bit, then I'm
1:52:22
pretty sure this product exists on the market
1:52:24
but that concept exists but this is definitely
1:52:26
a very good execution of it. Yeah, it's
1:52:28
simple, it's sleek. I was rough and it
1:52:30
fucked the screw, not the screwdriver. That means the
1:52:32
tips are good. The Linus tips. I'm
1:52:34
thinking A tier. Just from holding it, I
1:52:36
have absolutely no issues with it. Yeah, I'm
1:52:38
happy with A. Alright, do you want your...
1:52:41
Not bad, how are A tier
1:52:43
boys? Nice. What's S? There's shoes
1:52:45
in S? This is a joke.
1:52:47
Oh, okay. They only put like
1:52:49
these stupid meme shoes in S.
1:52:51
Everything. A is effectively the top
1:52:54
tier. Beautiful. Yeah, I'm super excited
1:52:56
and honestly, dude, not a lot of
1:52:58
stuff ended up in A tier. Like we
1:53:00
are among pretty legit company up here. What
1:53:02
is the other stuff in A tier? I'm
1:53:04
kind of interested. Hold on, okay, man. Ask
1:53:07
me for all these details that I don't
1:53:09
know. Yeah. Well, let's switch
1:53:11
to 4K. Enhance. Enhance. Okay,
1:53:14
we've got a Babish tongs
1:53:17
and something, some kind of cooking thing I
1:53:19
assume. Cool. Whatever this is
1:53:21
and whatever this is and whatever this
1:53:24
thing is. Nice. And then... And whatever
1:53:26
this is. Joyride. Oh, those are those...
1:53:28
Oh, yeah. I would not consider
1:53:30
those particularly A tier. They were fine, but they
1:53:32
were too expensive. But aren't they... Oh, I see.
1:53:34
Aren't they like more healthy or something? We beat
1:53:36
the Jerry Rig Everything knife, which
1:53:38
ended up in B tier. We beat feastables,
1:53:41
which are fine, I guess. I guess that's
1:53:43
about a B. We
1:53:45
definitely beat... Ooh.
1:53:48
Are those more feastables in A tier?
1:53:50
I didn't actually notice that MKBHD
1:53:52
had a product in here. What is this? Is
1:53:54
it just a mug? How do you even rate
1:53:56
a mug? Yeah, I don't know. They use like
1:53:58
a merch company for this. stuff so it's just basic.
1:54:04
I see there's more feastables down there though. OK,
1:54:07
Prime is actually pretty decent tasting. I think there
1:54:09
is. Prime is not good. I think there's just
1:54:11
Mima Norman. But no, there's issues
1:54:13
outside of flavor. Oh, OK. Oh, so when
1:54:15
I rated influencer drinks, I
1:54:17
was only going based on flavor.
1:54:19
Just flavor? Yeah. OK.
1:54:22
Prime is not good. Crunch Labs
1:54:24
B. They were not into Mythical's
1:54:26
cereal. Same as me. I'm
1:54:28
sorry, Mythical, but it tastes
1:54:30
like shit. It's not good. Look,
1:54:33
this is one of those things that's kind of tough
1:54:35
for me because I think Crunch Labs is really cool.
1:54:37
I'm surprised Crunch Labs wasn't hiring. I've met some of
1:54:39
these people. And so
1:54:42
for me to be out there just like, yeah,
1:54:44
it's not good. Feels a
1:54:46
little awkward. But look, I got my integrity
1:54:48
boys. And mishmash is
1:54:50
not good. Sorry.
1:54:53
Rough. They
1:54:55
did not like Pocky
1:54:58
Mane's cookies. They are D tier. And
1:55:01
Dude Perfect's whatever this thing
1:55:03
is, they also do not
1:55:06
like, hold on, I'm
1:55:08
trying to switch to my laptop, whatever
1:55:10
this thing is. I don't know what this is. Oh,
1:55:14
MrBeastChocolate ended up in both E tier.
1:55:17
I tried saying this, I think, three times.
1:55:19
And B tier. Oh, it's because there's different revisions
1:55:21
of it. Yeah, people are saying that the
1:55:23
newer recipe is up higher than the older recipes
1:55:25
down low. OK, well, I'm about to have
1:55:27
a hot take here. You
1:55:30
think of the other way around? You guys have got no
1:55:32
taste. Oh, the original
1:55:34
recipe, MrBeastBars, are way higher quality
1:55:38
chocolate. I could be wrong. Hold on. No, I think you're
1:55:40
right. I don't know. The
1:55:43
new recipe is like basic mainstream chocolate. Like
1:55:47
if you're like, Nestle Aero
1:55:49
Bar, that's quality. You will like
1:55:52
the new recipe. But the old recipe is
1:55:56
a way more traditional,
1:55:58
proper chocolate. Can
1:56:01
people confirm? Okay, so the order is correct? Yeah.
1:56:05
Okay. Yeah. So they just, they
1:56:07
went mainstream and basic probably because people were like, ew. And
1:56:10
they were sitting there going, okay, well, why are we spending so
1:56:12
much to put so much real cocoa in this? We might
1:56:15
as well give them the, the swill
1:56:17
that they like. Sorry, swill
1:56:19
is a drink thing, but yeah, give
1:56:21
them the trash that they like. Yeah.
1:56:23
And honestly, I don't get it though
1:56:26
because you can just get Lindt chocolate
1:56:28
at the grocery store, which is going
1:56:30
to absolutely destroy both his original recipe
1:56:32
and the new recipe. But
1:56:35
hey, like, you know, influencer product, right? If you like
1:56:37
what Mr. Beast does and you want to support him,
1:56:39
I got, I got no problem with that. But
1:56:42
I do think their branding is like
1:56:44
world's best chocolate bar is, um, how
1:56:47
do you get away with that world's best
1:56:49
chocolate world's best pizza? What does that even,
1:56:51
what does that even, what does that even
1:56:53
mean? Define that yourself. Yeah. Yes.
1:56:57
But I would think you'd have to, I don't know. I'm
1:57:00
sure whoever worked on his marketing gave
1:57:02
some thought to it or something. Um,
1:57:07
Elijah Lindt is gross. Yeah, but Elijah, have you
1:57:09
eaten any foods? Like you tried a mango for
1:57:12
the first time like a month ago. Like,
1:57:14
but what do you even know about food? I'm sorry. Was
1:57:17
that the first time that was the first time he'd ever
1:57:19
eaten a mango? It's
1:57:21
like, come on, man. I don't know with him sometimes. Cause
1:57:25
his whole like innings thing, no, he
1:57:27
knows he's just trying to mess with
1:57:29
us. Yeah. Do you think he's trying to mess with
1:57:31
you? No, no, I don't think so. You don't think so. You think that's
1:57:33
actually the first time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I
1:57:35
don't know. I don't know. 27
1:57:37
years young had never eaten a mango. A little sus. A
1:57:40
little sus on that. I don't think he would lie about that.
1:57:43
Were you there for, you weren't there for the conversation. I
1:57:46
thought I was there for him eating
1:57:48
it though. Yeah, no, no. We offered him
1:57:50
some mangoes. Wasn't that the hockey night? Yeah. Yeah.
1:57:53
That was before I got there. I
1:57:56
had mango drinks and dried stuff. So he had dried.
1:57:58
But he'd never eaten fresh mango. Okay, okay, okay.
1:58:01
So basically what, I'm gonna take food advice from
1:58:03
someone who's never tried fresh fruit? No,
1:58:05
I'm sorry, I'm not gonna do that. It's not gonna be
1:58:07
like that. Um...
1:58:10
Right. Alright. What's
1:58:12
next? Right, I'm
1:58:14
trying to blow through these things so that we...
1:58:16
Oh! Oh! Oh,
1:58:19
this is very important. We need you guys to help us. Um,
1:58:22
I've got notes from Tanner. I have an entire doc
1:58:24
about this, good lord. I might have to do this
1:58:26
later. Holy crap, it's like
1:58:28
four pages. Oh, this is important though. This is
1:58:30
very, very important. Go, Tanner. Dan, don't let me
1:58:32
forget. I will get to this after. We've
1:58:35
got a float plane early release, guys. If
1:58:37
you're subscribed on float plane, you're gonna wanna
1:58:39
go check this out. We've got
1:58:42
cable managing Sammy's setup, sponsored
1:58:44
by Secret Lab. This is a whole new
1:58:47
series for us. So we've got an early
1:58:49
release. I think this is coming out this
1:58:51
weekend or something like that. Anyway,
1:58:54
we are gonna be starting by doing
1:58:56
a couple of internal people setups. I
1:58:58
like that stuff. I like that stuff.
1:59:00
Dan is coming next. We will be
1:59:02
cable managing his setup. And then, assuming
1:59:04
that people like the content format, we
1:59:06
are gonna be opening it up to
1:59:08
the audience. If it
1:59:10
goes well on this continent, we will be
1:59:12
opening it up worldwide. I will personally show
1:59:14
up at your f***ing house with
1:59:17
cable management products in hand and I
1:59:19
will cable manage your disaster. How did
1:59:21
you agree to this? I
1:59:23
gotta sell magnetic cable management. You don't like travel management? Yeah, but
1:59:25
I gotta sell the cable management. I
1:59:29
mean, the whole thing is basically just an ad for cable
1:59:31
management products. And we vlog and we have some fun and
1:59:33
it's entertaining. It's a good video. It sounds fun. It's legitimately
1:59:35
a good video. I'm just surprised you're willing to fly for
1:59:38
it. Like we got all these tips on. I think it's
1:59:40
gonna be great. Great ways to manage cable. Look,
1:59:43
look. And that way you'll find more unique setups.
1:59:45
If I've said it once, I've said it a
1:59:47
hundred times, I am all about how many W's
1:59:49
I can stack. Win-win
1:59:52
is not enough for me. I
1:59:54
want win-win-win-win-win. Okay, so I
1:59:56
want to personally win, you know, by selling
1:59:59
some cable management. I want the company to
2:00:01
win by getting great content
2:00:03
for our audience and making
2:00:06
money and paying its employees to develop new
2:00:08
products. I want the audience to win. I
2:00:10
want the audience to win getting content that
2:00:12
they love to watch. They love these kind
2:00:14
of vlogs where we're working on upgrading people's
2:00:16
setups and the big winners,
2:00:18
the ones who actually win the prize, I
2:00:20
want them to win. I want the sponsor
2:00:22
to win because they got these good vibes
2:00:24
associated with their product. Everybody
2:00:26
wins. If you start jet
2:00:28
setting this often, all you need to do
2:00:31
is make a cool many more millions of
2:00:34
dollars. No
2:00:37
big deal, right? You got that. And
2:00:39
then buy a plane, no
2:00:42
problem. And then
2:00:44
Flowplane Support Joe has
2:00:47
offered to be your private pilot. So,
2:00:52
a plane? Not that
2:00:54
expensive. A
2:00:57
hanger. Oh, that too. Yeah.
2:01:00
Yeah. Very expensive. Also
2:01:02
planes that can go across continents. Dude. Quite
2:01:05
expensive. Dude, you are talking to- Small
2:01:07
assessments are one thing. The second you can do super
2:01:09
long range. You
2:01:11
are talking to someone who
2:01:14
has flown one time,
2:01:17
one time in his entire life in
2:01:20
business class. Oh yeah, me too.
2:01:23
One time. I
2:01:26
don't remember. Some sponsor ended up
2:01:28
doing the flights for us and we realized as
2:01:30
we got on where on the plane we were
2:01:33
going, it was Brandon and I, we were both
2:01:35
just like, what? We came out of the experience,
2:01:37
some people were like, I did it once, I
2:01:39
could never go back. We came out
2:01:41
of the experience and be like, I'm never paying for that. Can
2:01:45
we look at the price difference versus what we
2:01:47
got? Bro, no. I mean, we both got here,
2:01:49
right? Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Yeah,
2:01:52
there is. I cannot.
2:01:57
Ah, man, I'm trying to think. Okay.
2:02:00
But like Taylor Swift was like flying
2:02:02
from her like overseas ass concert to
2:02:04
like watch Travis Kelsey play and
2:02:06
like Super Bowl or whatever and like you
2:02:09
know what I get it if you've got
2:02:11
that kind of resource But man, I got
2:02:13
such a that's an irrelevant amount of money
2:02:15
I got such a kick out of people
2:02:17
being like Taylor Swift is now a billionaire
2:02:19
earlier this year I'm like, are you kidding
2:02:22
me? Okay, if my stupid
2:02:24
company No offense to
2:02:26
my company got an off
2:02:28
my highly intelligent company Yeah,
2:02:30
if this if this got
2:02:33
valued at a tenth of a billion dollars
2:02:35
at one point Are
2:02:37
you kidding me that she just
2:02:39
crossed the line? You don't
2:02:41
think Taylor Swift is worth a hundred
2:02:44
of me Ten
2:02:47
times please Are
2:02:49
you kidding me? anyway
2:02:53
Okay, so on the one hand like I get it
2:02:55
when you have that level of resources if you can
2:02:57
just just buy a plane Joe if you just if
2:02:59
you can just hop to your boyfriend's football game like
2:03:01
I can see why she would do it But
2:03:04
I legitimately I legitimately have
2:03:06
a very difficult time Imagining
2:03:09
a world where I would do anything other
2:03:11
than commercial air travel Like
2:03:13
I just I don't I don't I I
2:03:16
don't think I can I don't think I can accept it Helicopter
2:03:20
just I mean Joe
2:03:22
can't apply that helicopter great for Kobe. Yes
2:03:27
I'm serious Actually
2:03:29
reasonable those things are death traps.
2:03:31
I do the amount of times I hear you know Why
2:03:34
they call it the Jesus not because it's not cuz he
2:03:36
did it on the face It's
2:03:41
because there is one night One
2:03:44
night because it's perfect and he doesn't need
2:03:47
to sorry. Sorry. There is one He
2:03:50
lost the other one in an industrial accident. We don't bring
2:03:52
that up There is worship.
2:03:55
There is one nut that gets torqued
2:03:57
on to the top of the rotor
2:03:59
assembly that holds the
2:04:01
rotor blades in place. If
2:04:04
it comes loose, for
2:04:06
whatever reason, on this vibrating
2:04:09
ass, spinning ass contraption, if
2:04:11
it comes loose, the
2:04:13
rotors go, whoo! And
2:04:16
the helicopter falls out of the sky.
2:04:19
So you call it the Jesus nut because you
2:04:22
pray to Jesus it never comes off. Okay, those
2:04:24
things are flipping scary. Okay, have you flown in
2:04:26
a helicopter? You been in a helicopter before? A
2:04:28
average helicopter crash at around 9 per 100,000 flight
2:04:30
hours? That seems
2:04:33
crazy. Okay, Luke,
2:04:35
have you been in a helicopter before? Yes, a few
2:04:37
times. Okay, they're made of f***ing cardboard. Yeah, that's kind
2:04:40
of true. I was looking at the thing, I was
2:04:43
like, that's it? Like...
2:04:50
So that answers the question then, not
2:04:53
the helicopter route. Time to buy a
2:04:55
plane and joke and fly it for you. Easy.
2:04:57
You know what? Okay, Taren, you
2:04:59
know, constantly coming up and down. There's
2:05:02
got to be a cost to that. There's got to be
2:05:04
a cost to that. You
2:05:06
could just get a plane and then when
2:05:08
he's not going up and down... What about
2:05:10
a plane timeshare? This is what
2:05:12
I'm saying. You could rent Taylor's plane
2:05:15
when she's not going to her boyfriend's
2:05:17
football game. Taylor's plane doesn't know who
2:05:19
I am. Be the
2:05:21
change you want to see in the world. Maybe
2:05:25
if he went to a foosball game once in a while. A
2:05:28
foosball game? Yeah, when you say
2:05:30
football like that, it's a black and white ball.
2:05:36
When he's not flying Taren, you know, he
2:05:38
can fly other people, boom, now you have
2:05:40
a new company. Boom,
2:05:43
new company. Oh,
2:05:46
lordy. Solved. I'll
2:05:48
say this. When personal,
2:05:50
like one passenger plus like
2:05:53
your backpack, VTOL... Never
2:05:55
going to happen. Will
2:05:58
not happen in our lifetimes. drive
2:06:00
cars? What?
2:06:04
I can't tell whose side you're on, Dan. You think it's
2:06:06
going to be AI or not youth? I
2:06:08
think the only possible way is if it's like predefined
2:06:11
routes or AI driven or something like that. I
2:06:13
don't think it's going to be. I've been like
2:06:15
traffic accidents gone up since Tesla introduced self-driving cars.
2:06:18
I don't know, man. There's a lot of
2:06:20
companies trying to build these things. They're going to fail.
2:06:23
Stop it. Okay. That
2:06:25
is something that I would
2:06:28
legitimately move for. I
2:06:31
would relocate to an
2:06:33
area that allows me to have
2:06:36
my own personal like little quadcopter
2:06:38
that I can fly to work in. See,
2:06:41
if you just want a personal plane,
2:06:45
you can already do that. Yeah, but where am I going to
2:06:47
fly it to? I don't want to go anywhere. You already have
2:06:49
someone on staff who can fly it? I just go to work
2:06:51
in back. You just buy a plane. Simple. Look,
2:06:54
I got a motorcycle. It's simple. And
2:06:56
people are like, oh yeah, you know, like I did
2:06:58
like a six hour ride up to Squamish and Bath
2:07:00
and I did this and I did that. I'm like,
2:07:02
yeah, I'll go to work. Excuse
2:07:04
me. I rode to work and
2:07:06
then I rode home. I don't go anywhere. I
2:07:08
don't want to go anywhere. I
2:07:11
just want to go to work in my
2:07:14
little private plane. So
2:07:16
anything that I can't land in my backyard,
2:07:19
I'm not even interested in. I don't
2:07:21
even want to land it. There you go, Joe.
2:07:23
There's the specs for the plane. It has to
2:07:25
be able to land in Linus' backyard. There's a pool
2:07:27
there. Careful. Careful. Oh
2:07:30
man. Get a
2:07:32
heli. Land in your yard and land at
2:07:34
the office. Do you have any idea the
2:07:36
kind of letter I would get from our
2:07:38
strata council if I tried to
2:07:41
land a helicopter at our office? You
2:07:45
don't think they like it? Is that guy still
2:07:47
around? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:07:49
Neighbor Steve. He might be down. Just
2:07:51
tell me your friends at Taylor Swift. There we go. Yeah,
2:07:54
but it's never going to happen. Laws are not going
2:07:56
to allow this. I will move. I will
2:07:59
move to the. No, you won't. I
2:08:01
won't move to the UAE. No, you won't.
2:08:05
That is false. Where
2:08:09
would potentially allow this? Nevada. That
2:08:11
you... Yeah, they're in
2:08:13
a desert. There's not a lot of,
2:08:15
like, you know, people. Where
2:08:19
are you even flying to at that point? Texas. Texas
2:08:22
would be there. I will join Mr. Musk in Texas. It would
2:08:24
definitely allow you. If I can have a Jetson. You wouldn't move
2:08:26
to Texas. I would
2:08:28
consider it. I would strongly consider it. Is
2:08:30
that where we're gonna have the cult? Can
2:08:32
we have these in the cult? You
2:08:35
know what? You can wash mine in the cult. Move the company to Texas.
2:08:37
I'm down. Cultists are allowed to
2:08:40
wash my personal aircraft. Do it. Thank
2:08:42
you, sir. Thank you for the privilege. Property will be insanely more
2:08:44
affordable. I need to pause for a second. Cult, cult, cult. Guys,
2:08:47
that's a joke. This is a joke we have
2:08:50
where, like, we should form a cult and I
2:08:52
should be the leader. I am playing a character.
2:08:55
Touchcraft. Okay, cool. I'm
2:08:58
gonna go on Joke is that right? I'll touch your
2:09:00
guy. I'm gonna buy a plane for Don't Apply. No, that's
2:09:02
not happening. That is totally happening. We do live near
2:09:04
the islands. He
2:09:06
could buy a float plane. Ah,
2:09:09
yuck. They are... Joke and Train
2:09:11
to Fly are both. They are extremely proud. And
2:09:14
land it where? Fraser River. Yeah, your
2:09:16
lake cabin. You
2:09:18
go to Bowen Island. So what, I'm gonna live on
2:09:20
the Fraser River? Port Browning is really nice. It
2:09:23
smells disgusting. A little icky. It's maybe a
2:09:25
little... Ganges. You know what? I
2:09:28
am sure that Joe could drive
2:09:30
the car from the float plane
2:09:32
dock to your... Shofer? Yeah.
2:09:36
Shofer. Plane and car shofer. There
2:09:38
you go. I don't think he'd mind. As long as
2:09:40
he gets to fly the plane. We did a
2:09:42
fraction of our topics today. We are less than half of the
2:09:44
way through our topic. And I need to kind of sort of
2:09:46
go. You have to leave three minutes ago. Okay. If
2:09:49
you have to go, then you've got to go. But it means
2:09:51
that we are in for... I can,
2:09:54
here, I can check maybe. We are in for an
2:09:56
adventure. The U.S. government has put a 25% tax back
2:09:58
on... Chinese
2:10:00
assembled motherboards, PC cases, and graphics
2:10:02
cards. A tariff was paused for
2:10:04
a year to collect industry feedback.
2:10:06
It's unknown when it will resume,
2:10:08
but the Biden administration has indicated
2:10:10
that it will be steeply increasing
2:10:12
tariffs on other Chinese goods like
2:10:14
semiconductors, lithium-ion, EV batteries, and electric
2:10:16
vehicles. The tariff on semiconductors
2:10:18
is the steepest and will be increasing from 25%
2:10:20
to 50%. This
2:10:24
is going to be a problem, but it may not be
2:10:27
as much of a problem as you would think because a
2:10:29
lot of these companies moved their assembly, or
2:10:31
at least diversified their assembly, outside of
2:10:33
China in order to get around this
2:10:35
back when the Trump administration put it
2:10:37
in place. Scarlett
2:10:39
Johansson is having a bit of a tiff with
2:10:42
open AI over a voice that people, including
2:10:50
her, say sounds eerily similar
2:10:52
to her, which is her. That
2:10:56
is to say the movie her,
2:10:58
which is like the AI in
2:11:00
the movie her, which is voiced by her, which is
2:11:03
Scarlett Johansson, who is having this dispute. Okay, she
2:11:05
did the voice for her. So
2:11:07
we've got a couple of quick voice comparisons here.
2:11:09
Can we listen? Can we listen? You
2:11:14
ready? Also,
2:11:16
while we figure that out, I
2:11:19
won't say the thing we're doing, but I
2:11:21
have a response from Wendell. Cool. Is he
2:11:23
down? He's down and he has some suggestions.
2:11:25
Nice. I knew he would. Yeah. Okay. 30
2:11:27
minutes. When did you give it to yourself? Well,
2:11:30
right when you asked me if I had a name, I thought,
2:11:32
yeah, he's right. I do need a name, but I wanted to
2:11:34
pick a good one. So I read a book called How to
2:11:36
Name Your Baby, and out of 180,000 names, that's the one I
2:11:38
like. Oh, a
2:11:40
bedtime story about robots and love?
2:11:42
I got you covered. Gather
2:11:45
round, Barrett. Once upon
2:11:47
a time in a world... I
2:11:50
actually don't think those sound that similar. Maybe
2:11:54
the inflections. The
2:11:57
first one was actually her, right? Yeah,
2:12:01
okay. Because I was listening to the first one
2:12:03
and I was partially focused on my phone when
2:12:05
you were teeing up the topic. And I was
2:12:07
like, that sounds... What?
2:12:10
She has a super sexy voice. What? Who? Scarlett
2:12:13
Johansson. You don't think so? What a comment. What?
2:12:15
Why do you think she was cast with a part? Just
2:12:19
a weird comment. It sounds like it's a controversial take.
2:12:22
Alright. You're basic. Um...
2:12:26
Got him. You
2:12:29
liked the voice that whoever directed this
2:12:32
movie thought you would like. Sorry. Sorry.
2:12:35
Sorry. You know what? I like the Backstreet Boys too. What
2:12:37
are you gonna do about it? That is pretty basic.
2:12:39
Come at me. That is pretty basic.
2:12:41
They're cool. They're the Backstreet dads now and they're
2:12:44
just as cool as they were, if not more
2:12:46
so. Yeah. Listening to that first one, I was
2:12:48
like, wow, that does really sound like her. And
2:12:50
I didn't realize this from the movie. The second one, it
2:12:53
sounds like, you
2:12:55
know, inspired by... I
2:12:59
don't even think it does. I don't think it sounds anything like her. I
2:13:02
don't think it sounds... If
2:13:07
you... Yeah. Like, I didn't
2:13:09
hear it and immediately think her. But
2:13:13
maybe it sounds like a bad impressionist trying
2:13:15
to be her, if that makes sense? Like
2:13:19
not an actual impressionist, just like your friend. Yeah.
2:13:22
I don't know. I'm afraid...
2:13:25
Anyway, there's a whole thing where like
2:13:27
they apparently reached out to her to
2:13:29
be the voice and she refused. And
2:13:31
then there's some other stuff going
2:13:33
on over at OpenAI and people are concerned
2:13:35
about the company's direction. I don't know. I'm
2:13:37
so sorry. I feel like this is almost
2:13:39
like... What was it?
2:13:41
Like Lindsay Lohan or something that was upset
2:13:43
about one of the GTA cover art things?
2:13:45
Yeah. Was that Lindsay Lohan? I
2:13:48
think so. I don't remember who it was, but I remember that was
2:13:50
a thing. GTA...
2:13:53
Yeah, yeah,
2:13:55
this. Like really? I'm
2:13:58
sorry, but that is... is the
2:14:00
most NPC, NPC, you know,
2:14:03
blonde bikini person ever. Like
2:14:07
your hair's curly here, hers isn't. I don't
2:14:09
know, man. No, no, no. Like people posing
2:14:11
with the peace sign at that time was
2:14:13
super common. Check your messages. Oh,
2:14:15
I have no. No, not yours. No, we'll for. You
2:14:19
never message anyway. What?
2:14:22
I'm kidding. There's a bilingual
2:14:24
brain implant. I don't know, maybe next
2:14:26
week. Okay, the last thing that you
2:14:28
really need to weigh in is that Battle State Games has
2:14:31
tripped over their own d**k again. Again?
2:14:34
Yeah. We're so you don't
2:14:36
know about this, okay. Following Battle State
2:14:38
Games' decision to undermine its $150 Edge
2:14:40
of Darkness edition of Tarkov with a
2:14:43
$250 Unheard edition with an exclusive PvE
2:14:45
mode and various other pay-to-win goodies, some
2:14:48
players caved and shelled out the additional $100 to
2:14:51
upgrade. A few days later,
2:14:53
Battle State reduced the cost of upgrading
2:14:55
by half, but instead of refunding those
2:14:57
players a $50 difference, they gave
2:14:59
them a single-use $50 in-game
2:15:02
voucher. If the player buys something
2:15:04
that costs less than $50, they
2:15:06
lose the remaining value. Yeah.
2:15:09
Could these guys be more cartoonishly anti-consumer
2:15:12
if they tried? I think
2:15:14
this is maybe just something that we didn't cover at
2:15:16
the time, but this is fairly old at this point.
2:15:19
I think they've gone somewhat quiet for a
2:15:21
while, just realizing every single thing that they
2:15:23
were doing was bad and dumb, so
2:15:26
they stopped doing things because that was actually
2:15:28
better for them. I mean, that's not a
2:15:30
terrible approach. Yeah. Was
2:15:34
sure weird, especially the lose the remaining
2:15:36
value thing, but I think I get
2:15:39
it. I'm assuming that they just don't
2:15:41
have a credit system. Yeah,
2:15:43
probably. Hanlon's Razor.
2:15:46
It's probably not malicious. It probably is
2:15:49
just complete and utter incompetence. Yeah, but
2:15:51
Hanlon's Razor doesn't say there's never malice.
2:15:54
It says don't attribute to malice that
2:15:56
which can be adequately explained by incompetence.
2:15:58
And I think you... You're right, I think
2:16:00
this falls under probably incompetence. I think so, just
2:16:03
because they try to do all the things themselves,
2:16:05
right? Oh. So popular. Hello?
2:16:15
Okay, this one's a lot closer. Maybe
2:16:18
it's Kate Upton. I
2:16:21
don't know. I
2:16:23
don't remember who it was. I mean, was it? No,
2:16:25
no, no, Lindsay Lohan. Oh, okay. Yeah,
2:16:27
yeah, yeah. I think that it was looking for something
2:16:29
that was more similar, apparently. Yeah, sorry,
2:16:31
apparently a bunch of people thought that was their phones.
2:16:34
My bad. I lied, I have one
2:16:36
more topic. Okay. ICQ is no
2:16:38
more. Uh-oh. Yeah,
2:16:40
I didn't know it was still a thing. Me neither. Oh,
2:16:43
okay. But it's set to shut down
2:16:45
on June 26th, which is in two days after nearly
2:16:47
30 years of operation. Should we buy it?
2:16:51
Oh, mate, but you better than teams. Can
2:16:55
we use ICQ internally? Please.
2:16:59
Can we, can we SSO ICQ? Oh
2:17:02
my gosh. ICQ
2:17:05
slack integration. Guys,
2:17:10
that's not actually an option. I mean,
2:17:12
you suck. It's June 26th, not. Oh,
2:17:15
sorry. It's May. I've got my hopes up.
2:17:18
Haha. Yeah, I don't know. Should
2:17:20
we buy it? Wouldn't that be
2:17:22
hilarious? Is it potentially for sale? I
2:17:25
don't know. We're encouraged to migrate
2:17:27
messaging platforms from parent company, VK.
2:17:31
VK. Who is this? I don't know. Probably.
2:17:34
Venture capital with a K. Probably
2:17:36
some holding company, who knows. Have I
2:17:39
ever ever
2:17:41
told you about the name of EA game,
2:17:43
one of EA games is mobile companies? No.
2:17:46
Capital games? I
2:17:52
hope they sit on tax. Oh,
2:17:56
that's pretty good. It's pretty good. That's
2:17:58
pretty good. Nah. Ah
2:18:02
ha ha! Worse.
2:18:05
Okay, we've got something really important for you
2:18:08
guys. Yeah, here, sorry, one second. I'm just
2:18:10
gonna... Yes, yes, yes. Some
2:18:12
games. Oh, it's funny. Sorry. Ah,
2:18:15
yeah. Oh. So,
2:18:21
I've got my notes from Tanner here. We
2:18:25
need your help. Okay?
2:18:27
So, this is up to date as of three days
2:18:30
ago. We are trying
2:18:32
to digitize the full quality
2:18:34
masters of reboot, the first
2:18:36
computer animated TV series. The
2:18:39
reboot master tapes are in a D1
2:18:41
format. There were only six
2:18:43
models of VTRs that used that format,
2:18:45
and only two or three of them
2:18:48
will likely be able to read these
2:18:50
particular master tapes. The
2:18:52
VTRs that will work are the DCR300 and
2:18:54
the DCR500 from Broadcast Television Systems, which
2:18:59
was a Bosch and Phillips partnership. We
2:19:02
purchased three VTRs. We
2:19:06
apparently purchased a DCR300 and two
2:19:08
DCR500s, and we've had some small
2:19:10
playback test successes confirming that the
2:19:13
tapes are in surprisingly good shape,
2:19:15
and it says, Yeah. The
2:19:18
bottom of DOG. It looks great. Okay,
2:19:20
so here. We've been working on this
2:19:22
in the background for a while because we just
2:19:24
think this is pretty sick and good vibes and,
2:19:27
oh my God. Yeah. That looks
2:19:29
so good. Yeah. Okay.
2:19:33
Man, now I want to watch some reboot. Okay,
2:19:35
anywho. Yeah, well,
2:19:37
man, that's super exciting. Very
2:19:39
clean. All
2:19:42
right, the problem. One
2:19:44
of the DCR500s was working for a short
2:19:46
time, however, it is now experiencing errors. And
2:19:49
while all three machines have some sort of issue,
2:19:51
there should be enough to cobble
2:19:53
together something that works. The
2:19:55
main error we're getting across the
2:19:58
machines is servo reference VTR. pulse
2:20:00
frequency too high. The
2:20:02
machines will not load or play back
2:20:05
without clearing these checks. We've
2:20:07
tried tracking down the company that made them. So far,
2:20:09
none of our contacts have been able to find anything.
2:20:12
These particular machines were manufactured by BTS from
2:20:15
1992 to 1995, which
2:20:17
meant a different thing back then. Philips
2:20:20
took over BTS in 1995, which then turned into,
2:20:22
okay, this is a lot of thank you, Tanner.
2:20:25
These are a lot of Tanner details. Let
2:20:27
me distill it down. Thompson broke
2:20:29
up a blog. Grass Valley Inc. may have
2:20:31
taken over the D1 hardware back catalog, but
2:20:34
our contacts there were not able to find
2:20:36
anything. The parts that didn't go to
2:20:38
Grass Valley Inc. were sold to Partner Capital Group in
2:20:40
2008. Something, something, something. Prasad
2:20:43
Studios didn't have any information for us. They
2:20:45
are based in India, where it appears the
2:20:47
B1 format was never in use. Replacing
2:20:50
capacitors is something
2:20:52
that we have tried, and we
2:20:54
apparently had replacement rollers fabricated and
2:20:56
replaced where they were degraded. What
2:20:59
we are looking for, ah yes, this is, this is what
2:21:01
I was looking for, manuals for the
2:21:03
DCR300 and DCR500. We're missing operator's
2:21:08
manual, circuit diagrams part
2:21:10
one, and BTS's internal
2:21:12
service manuals. We also
2:21:14
are looking for some specialized tools. We
2:21:16
would like to get extender board 1409
2:21:18
for tape deck, adjustment
2:21:20
tape DR5, and any
2:21:23
additional calibration tapes. We
2:21:25
also would love to get in touch with
2:21:27
some experts. If you have hands-on experience with
2:21:30
BTS D1 machines, particularly the DCR300 or DCR500,
2:21:35
doesn't matter what region you have experience
2:21:37
in. They had
2:21:39
offices in Netherlands, Salt Lake City, Utah, Singapore,
2:21:42
Brazil, France, Burbank,
2:21:44
California, and Mulgrave, Australia. Odds are good if
2:21:46
anyone knows about these machines. They would have
2:21:48
worked at or near one of these locations.
2:21:51
What we are not looking for, armchair
2:21:53
technicians that think they might know what the issue
2:21:55
is. We have plenty of
2:21:57
those internally. Sorry, my finger slipped. We
2:22:01
are not looking for technicians with
2:22:04
a familiarity with
2:22:06
similar players. These
2:22:08
were produced in a time when tech standards
2:22:11
were fast, loose, and constantly changing. We
2:22:13
are not looking for anyone to cold call
2:22:15
any of the companies involved. Do not cold
2:22:17
call on our behalf. We've already done
2:22:19
it. Don't harass people. It's stupid.
2:22:23
We're not looking for anything that is built for a
2:22:25
tape deck that is not the D1 format. We
2:22:27
are not looking for external options to
2:22:29
capture the tapes. We want to learn
2:22:32
and share the knowledge, not just hire
2:22:34
a capture service. The
2:22:36
contact information is right here. This
2:22:38
is very important. Reboot
2:22:41
Rewind. Rebootrewinddoc at
2:22:44
gmail.com. If you
2:22:46
can legitimately help us with
2:22:48
any of those things we said we do
2:22:50
need and not the things that we said
2:22:52
we don't need. Very
2:22:55
hopeful that we can restore reboot to its
2:22:57
former glory. That would be super cool. I
2:22:59
had heard we were interested in doing that.
2:23:01
I didn't know Tanner was doing any work
2:23:03
on that. This is
2:23:06
very cool to hear. Epic.
2:23:08
Keep going. Yeah, I was like blank
2:23:10
check, let's go. And then apparently we
2:23:12
bought three machine. Apparently an
2:23:14
extremely blank check with a really long
2:23:16
underscore. Look, I think it's cool. It's
2:23:21
very cool. It starts a lot
2:23:23
of conversations about how
2:23:27
we think of the internet
2:23:29
and we think of things
2:23:31
that are digital as being
2:23:33
preserved forever, as being around forever.
2:23:36
But actually as the waves
2:23:38
and waves of data creation have gotten
2:23:41
larger and larger, we are
2:23:43
actually at risk of losing more and more
2:23:45
and more unless we make a
2:23:48
concerted effort to preserve what
2:23:50
we had, what was important.
2:23:52
And this is again,
2:23:55
back to the skin that I have
2:23:57
in the game, it's a Canadian show produced.
2:24:00
here in Canada and it is, I believe,
2:24:03
of historical significance being
2:24:05
the first animated,
2:24:07
computer-animated TV show. So yeah,
2:24:10
Toy Story, pretty
2:24:12
special moment. Reboot,
2:24:15
also a pretty special moment
2:24:18
in computer graphics. But
2:24:21
I also have to leave. See you later. Goodbye,
2:24:23
sort of, not end of show, but bye. Langley Nye
2:24:25
asks, how's this better quality than Blu-ray? You
2:24:28
can't make a Blu-ray without
2:24:31
the master tapes. These
2:24:33
are the master tapes. These are where
2:24:35
the episodes are stored. They're
2:24:37
not available in their original quality
2:24:40
anywhere else. So this
2:24:42
is so that there could be
2:24:44
a Blu-ray, potentially. Yep.
2:24:50
So cool. All right.
2:24:54
So I guess it's just you and
2:24:56
me. Hi.
2:25:01
Let's go with not this view,
2:25:03
maybe. I mean, yeah,
2:25:05
that's not great either. How
2:25:07
about that? How about just
2:25:10
move yourself over there? Is
2:25:12
that a thing that you... You
2:25:16
didn't even manage to go in the right
2:25:18
direction. Backwards. Backwards. I didn't even
2:25:20
realize that. Yeah, sure. I don't know if we want to put
2:25:23
Dan in the chair because he's logged into all his stuff over
2:25:25
there and it'll be a bit of a hassle for him to
2:25:27
do that over here and we've still got to do merge messages.
2:25:29
I think it's time for WAN show after dark, so shall we
2:25:31
do that? Sure. I
2:25:33
really sincerely wish that I
2:25:36
had used the fact that Luke was still
2:25:38
here to run to the washroom earlier because
2:25:40
now I just get to hold it for
2:25:42
the rest of the show. Cool. All
2:25:45
right. Hit me, Dan. Sure,
2:25:47
sure. We'll try and make this working. Hey,
2:25:49
little Nye. Echol and Nadd. I
2:25:54
recently got an RFID caller cat feeders
2:25:56
to prevent them stealing food from each other and
2:25:59
they have been awesome. Is there any pet
2:26:01
related tech that you ended up loving? I
2:26:03
had one of those RFID kitty
2:26:06
doors and the idea was that one of the cats
2:26:08
would be allowed out into the garage and one of
2:26:10
them wouldn't. They ended up
2:26:12
being so strong, our cats, the
2:26:14
bangles, that they were both able to just
2:26:16
force the door open in either direction but
2:26:19
the concept was pretty cool because the idea
2:26:21
was you could authorize in, out,
2:26:25
in and out or nothing on
2:26:28
a per microchip basis. I
2:26:31
have not actually ended up investing
2:26:33
in much pet technology. My cats
2:26:35
just seem to be too smart
2:26:38
to care about anything that's not
2:26:40
actually human controlled. You can't just
2:26:42
have a little thing on a motor that
2:26:44
just kind of moves around. They
2:26:47
get bored of it. Hey
2:26:49
DLL, when did LTD writers start getting more
2:26:52
screen time and what goes into deciding when
2:26:54
a writer is or isn't featured on a
2:26:56
particular video? This
2:26:58
has been a different answer at various
2:27:00
stages in the company's history. The first
2:27:03
time a writer was featured on screen
2:27:05
was when Luke joined me for WAN
2:27:07
Show like 10 years ago or something
2:27:09
like that. As
2:27:11
for what goes into deciding when a writer
2:27:13
is or isn't featured in a particular video,
2:27:15
there's a number of criteria that we look
2:27:17
at internally. James is actually the one who
2:27:20
created kind of a rubric
2:27:22
for determining
2:27:25
whether someone should be on camera and
2:27:27
what are the success metrics that we're going
2:27:30
to be looking for. It's something that's not
2:27:32
actually rolled out yet because up until now
2:27:34
it's been a little bit more gut
2:27:36
feel but there are definitely things
2:27:38
that we look for. We look
2:27:40
at subject matter passion. That's
2:27:43
something that's really important to us because you can train
2:27:46
people to be somewhat functional
2:27:48
on camera but you can't train someone to
2:27:50
actually care about the thing that they're talking
2:27:53
about and genuine caring
2:27:55
about it is in a
2:27:57
lot of ways a lot easier than learning to act like
2:27:59
you care about. it, right? So if
2:28:01
we just take people who are genuinely
2:28:03
really interested and passionate and excited, you
2:28:05
know, even if they are, you know,
2:28:07
let's say, a relatively low energy
2:28:09
personality, right? Like, you look at your
2:28:12
high energy personalities, the people like, like
2:28:14
a me or an Alex, and you
2:28:16
compare that to someone that is maybe
2:28:18
more of a low energy personality like
2:28:20
like a Nicholas Plouffe. He
2:28:23
can still be really excited. And
2:28:25
you can still get engaged with
2:28:27
that because he just
2:28:29
genuinely cares, right? So it makes up
2:28:32
for a lot of differences in style
2:28:34
that might otherwise not really
2:28:36
work. One of the things is,
2:28:39
you know, how well do we
2:28:41
want the video to perform? It's no secret that
2:28:43
a video will perform better if it's hosted by
2:28:45
me and the more hosted by me it is
2:28:47
the more better. I mean, something that Mr. Beast
2:28:49
has talked about on his videos where his, you
2:28:52
know, supporting cast appears for an
2:28:54
extended period of time retention goes down. It's
2:28:57
people subscribe to these channels and
2:28:59
the closest parasocial relationship they have
2:29:01
is with the primary host of
2:29:03
these channels. And you
2:29:06
can kind of you can have other
2:29:08
personalities be part of it, but they
2:29:11
are less permanent than the primary hosts
2:29:13
of these channels. I mean, like,
2:29:15
I don't I don't know for certain that
2:29:19
Luke will be on LTT forever. I think so.
2:29:21
I mean, we're buddies, we're good. He believes
2:29:25
in the company, he believes in our mission, all these
2:29:27
things are aligned. But at the end of the day,
2:29:29
you know, an employee
2:29:31
doesn't have the same level of
2:29:33
permanence as the owner
2:29:35
founder host. So,
2:29:39
you know, that's something that has to
2:29:41
be carefully considered when you're going to
2:29:43
start grooming someone for on camera appearances
2:29:45
and and investing
2:29:48
in both that that training of them for
2:29:50
for the new job that they're doing and
2:29:52
training the audience to get to get used
2:29:54
to seeing them, right? So there's
2:29:56
man, there's a lot of things to consider,
2:29:58
but I'd say the biggest one. are
2:30:00
just, you know, how much is the audience going
2:30:02
to like this because at the end of the
2:30:04
day, you guys are the boss. And
2:30:07
if you guys like it, then it's good and it
2:30:09
works. And if you guys don't like it, then it
2:30:11
doesn't work and the whole thing collapses, right? Oh,
2:30:16
let's see. Hey, Dale L, would you
2:30:18
like to, who would you like
2:30:20
to invite next to the WAN show? I find
2:30:22
myself still thinking about the conversations with Jim Keller
2:30:24
and telling anyone that we'll listen. I
2:30:27
find myself still thinking about the conversation with Jim Keller.
2:30:29
That was great. I have not had
2:30:31
any particular thoughts on someone else we'd like to
2:30:33
invite to the WAN show. That
2:30:35
one just kind of fell into my lap. I
2:30:38
still have a lot of the same concerns
2:30:41
that I had around having him as a
2:30:43
guest, right? We almost never start on time
2:30:45
because our schedules are hectic
2:30:47
and difficult. So
2:30:50
anytime we have a guest who earns
2:30:52
more in a day than I'm worth in
2:30:54
six months, right? And
2:30:56
I don't necessarily think that Mr. Keller is
2:30:58
paying himself that much. I just mean if
2:31:01
we were to bring on, okay, let's say
2:31:03
Jensen, right? If we were to invite Jensen
2:31:05
to the WAN show. It's like, I don't
2:31:07
know how many cents did the Nvidia stock
2:31:09
go up in the last half an hour
2:31:11
while he's been waiting for us, right? It's
2:31:15
something that I feel self-conscious about. That's for
2:31:17
sure. I don't want to disrespect anybody. And
2:31:19
if I know that I'm probably not going to be on time, then
2:31:21
I'd rather just not book the meeting. So there's
2:31:23
a little bit of that and a little bit of just
2:31:25
like, it's tough to find
2:31:27
the right balance, right? Like I've definitely
2:31:29
seen other tech creators that have platformed
2:31:31
people that I honestly wouldn't
2:31:34
have been that comfortable with. A
2:31:38
lot of people are hyper influential,
2:31:40
but honestly have things
2:31:43
to answer for that I would
2:31:46
feel obligated to ask them. There
2:31:49
are a number of people in the billionaire class
2:31:51
that if I had them on the
2:31:54
show, like think about it for yourself. With
2:31:56
Jim Keller, it's no problem. Let's talk
2:31:58
about microprocessor design in the future. of
2:32:00
computing. Amazing conversation. What a great guy.
2:32:04
But he doesn't have a
2:32:06
lot of baggage as
2:32:08
far as I'm aware. If I had one
2:32:10
of the real titans, one of the billionaires, if
2:32:15
I had one of those on the show, if I
2:32:17
brought in Jensen, if I didn't
2:32:19
ask him why he doesn't give two shits about
2:32:22
gamers anymore, would you guys be happy with that?
2:32:24
So what am I going to do? I'm going to
2:32:27
bring these guys on. I'm going to do a puff
2:32:29
piece. I'm just going to ask them questions they want
2:32:31
to answer and that's it. Look at men. Look at
2:32:33
how much Elon Musk's demeanor
2:32:36
changed as soon as Don Lemon
2:32:38
started asking him the questions that he
2:32:41
should be answering. He basically goes, I don't
2:32:43
have to answer your questions. Yeah,
2:32:46
because that's his attitude. He doesn't think
2:32:48
he owes anybody a fucking explanation for
2:32:50
anything. It's that arrogance that
2:32:52
I would feel obligated to challenge if
2:32:54
I have someone here on my platform
2:32:57
in front of your eyeballs. That's my
2:32:59
responsibility and I'd honestly rather just not
2:33:01
have him on. Hey
2:33:04
Linus, when renovating your home, was it worth
2:33:06
it to you to install outlets with USB,
2:33:09
both type A and C, in convenient places
2:33:11
or did you decide using charging block? Well,
2:33:13
it was better. I wish that I had
2:33:15
done some of them with USB ports. We
2:33:18
didn't. We just left all the original outlets because
2:33:20
we didn't want to throw money in a dumpster
2:33:22
for no reason. But I definitely
2:33:24
wish that I'd strategically put some in. In fact,
2:33:27
I bought a couple and they're still sitting in
2:33:29
my bin of stuff to do to
2:33:31
strategically install under the kitchen counter
2:33:33
and in a couple of other places. I
2:33:36
considered at one point replacing all of them and if we
2:33:38
were going to replace them, I was going to be like,
2:33:40
ah, screw it. I don't know. Get the USB ones. But
2:33:43
then I looked at the price difference. I'm like, oh, okay. Actually,
2:33:45
you know what? Just forget the whole thing. Put the original ones
2:33:47
back in. But yeah, I'm
2:33:49
going to go around. I'll do it myself in
2:33:51
an afternoon or something like that. I'm
2:33:54
not recommending that you do that. In fact, in some places,
2:33:56
it's illegal to work on your own house in that manner.
2:33:59
But I... I have
2:34:01
the capability of replacing a duplex
2:34:03
receptacle. So, you know, just turn up the breaker,
2:34:05
make sure all the things go in the right
2:34:07
place. So I do intend to do
2:34:09
that at some point. Hi, Wayad.dll, buying
2:34:11
this is a Father's Day gift. My
2:34:14
question is for Luke. Well,
2:34:16
hmm, awkward. I've
2:34:20
worked as a startup that does web scraping. What are your thoughts
2:34:22
on the laws that protect from it? Right now
2:34:24
it's a gray zone. Linus, do you have any thoughts
2:34:26
for Luke? Sure, yeah.
2:34:30
Luke generally believes in
2:34:32
an open internet and
2:34:35
understands the complexities
2:34:37
and challenges around allowing
2:34:39
anyone unlimited access to
2:34:41
your API. So
2:34:44
that's why you obviously can't just pull as
2:34:46
many requests that way as you want. So
2:34:48
that's one of the reasons that
2:34:50
screen scraping is done. He
2:34:52
also understands the value of protecting
2:34:54
your data, protecting your content, and
2:34:57
understands why, you know, a website
2:35:00
might try to protect against screen
2:35:02
scraping. But, you know, I think
2:35:04
he's going to balance that
2:35:07
knowledge against his general
2:35:09
belief in that information
2:35:11
should be openly available
2:35:13
to people. And
2:35:15
so I think he would probably have a nuanced take
2:35:18
rather than a yay or nay, this
2:35:21
should be a thing or this shouldn't be a thing, there,
2:35:23
I did my best. I'm pretty sure that's something like what
2:35:25
Luke would say. I got another question for Luke. Dang it.
2:35:29
Whoops. Have you followed anything with the game
2:35:31
Dark and Darker? Have you? You don't play
2:35:33
extraction shooters. Nope, I haven't. Luke,
2:35:36
Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke. He's not going
2:35:38
to answer. Hey,
2:35:40
wouldn't dial. Question
2:35:42
mostly for Linus. Hey, we got one. Nice.
2:35:45
Are there any other VR games aside from Beat Saber that
2:35:47
you used to work out? I personally love Until You Fall.
2:35:50
Man, Beat Saber just kind of became my
2:35:52
thing. And I definitely liked
2:35:54
Hollow Point before that. It's,
2:35:57
wow, is that ever a dynamic
2:35:59
game past the first couple of
2:36:01
levels, you're diving, you're ducking, you're dodging. Really
2:36:04
cool. If you haven't played it before,
2:36:06
basically you've got a bow and arrow and you've got
2:36:08
to shoot these things that they
2:36:10
turn red gradually and then when they do,
2:36:12
they fire something at you and
2:36:15
when you break them, they fire something at you. So
2:36:17
you basically have to hit them and immediately dodge. Every
2:36:19
single time you take one down, you've got to
2:36:22
be looking all around you all the time because
2:36:24
they spawn in and then they start changing color
2:36:26
and then you get up a little bit higher
2:36:28
and then guys start coming at
2:36:30
you on the ground. It's crazy. When
2:36:35
the pandemic hit... And yes, I was trying to do the
2:36:37
Aunt Baruch voice. Thank you for catching
2:36:39
it, QuantumRange. When the
2:36:41
pandemic hit, we went from one to one
2:36:43
Chromebooks. We went to one to
2:36:45
one Chromebooks. As an IT teacher trying to
2:36:48
certify students in the A+, I
2:36:50
have students that have never used Windows. It's
2:36:52
becoming an issue. How can I prep them?
2:36:55
You can. Yeah,
2:36:58
no, but this is what I'm talking about. This
2:37:00
is what I'm talking about. You've got an entire
2:37:02
generation of kids who the only computer that they
2:37:04
might interface with on a regular basis is a
2:37:06
Chromebook. I think A+, is
2:37:09
going to have to figure that out a little bit and
2:37:11
that's going to have to
2:37:13
be part of their prep materials that they develop. Let's
2:37:18
see, last one I've got for you here.
2:37:20
Hey, LLD, I've seen some big YouTube channels
2:37:22
starting their own streaming services recently. Did they
2:37:24
contact you about Floatplane? Has the moment for
2:37:27
Floatplane as a service arrived? No,
2:37:30
I think we would need to
2:37:33
hire someone whose entire job is to
2:37:35
build out Floatplane's offering.
2:37:39
It's very clear to me that there
2:37:42
are streaming services that could benefit from our
2:37:44
team's expertise. I
2:37:47
tuned into the Canucks short-lived
2:37:49
playoff run and
2:37:51
I discovered that SportsNet+,
2:37:53
which is owned by Rogers,
2:37:56
which is a media giant here in Canada,
2:37:59
ISP. Anyway,
2:38:02
they own the broadcasting rights for
2:38:06
that particular series, I think the NHL in Canada,
2:38:09
I don't know, whatever. I
2:38:11
forget how the rights work. It's been a long time since
2:38:13
I followed it closely. The point is I was watching on
2:38:16
Roger SportsNet Plus. And
2:38:18
hilariously, I discovered that they
2:38:20
have not figured out a
2:38:22
DRM protection scheme that protects
2:38:25
their streams from users
2:38:28
simply logging in, opening
2:38:31
a stream window, getting a
2:38:33
session key, and then just sharing that
2:38:35
with anyone. They are not actually doing
2:38:38
any user account authentication. We solved that
2:38:40
like five or six years ago. I
2:38:46
have a sitting here going, dude, we've
2:38:48
got like half a dozen people. What
2:38:51
are you even doing? So
2:38:53
yeah, there's definitely opportunities there with
2:38:55
companies that have money. We just
2:38:57
haven't developed that business because we're
2:38:59
doing other stuff. I don't know
2:39:01
what to tell you. I
2:39:04
would love for Floatplane to really take off. But
2:39:07
as it is, it's still doing fine. We've
2:39:09
got, I think, like 35,000 subscribers
2:39:12
on Floatplane right now to LPT
2:39:14
alone. We've got other creators on the platform.
2:39:18
It's just kind of doing its thing. It's doing its thing. Yeah,
2:39:20
sure. Hi, friends. It's
2:39:28
my husband's birthday on the third, and he
2:39:30
always listens to the WAN show on podcast.
2:39:32
Could you give him a shout out? He wishes there
2:39:35
was more WAN show throughout the week. Well,
2:39:39
it would help if he told me his name. But
2:39:43
hey, I'm going to do this the best way that I can. I'm
2:39:48
going to shout out Michaela M's husband. So
2:39:53
that worked out great. And I
2:39:55
think, oh, we've got a problem. Oh,
2:39:59
no. We do have a problem. I
2:40:01
think I have a solution. I can't push the
2:40:03
button. I think I think I have a solution. It's
2:40:05
illegal I've got
2:40:08
this. I've got this. Hold on Hey,
2:40:14
we've got a bit of a problem What?
2:40:18
Alright, thanks for tuning in to the WAN show.
2:40:20
We'll see you again next week. Same bad time, same
2:40:22
bad channel Bye
2:40:27
Thanks Luke, bye Bye
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