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I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

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I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

I Will NOT Give You $250 for Your Broken Game - WAN Show April 26, 2024

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0:01

What is up everyone? Welcome to The WAN

0:04

Show. Wow, that's all the energy I can

0:06

muster today. Sick. In

0:08

any other universe where... breaking

0:11

the streak was an option. I think I

0:13

wouldn't be here today. But let's go.

0:17

What are you two topics? I almost pulled all

0:20

nighters. So we're gonna get

0:22

into why that was and why we're

0:24

here anyway. What else we

0:26

got today? Oh right. TikTok

0:28

is banned. But no for real this

0:31

time. But wait, no maybe not. You

0:33

know what? No you're right. That topic

0:35

sucks. It's boring. Okay, Mozilla blasts

0:37

dating apps for dropping their

0:40

privacy standards. And this is a

0:44

bigger deal even than it sounds like. I was floored

0:46

when I was reading through this. Okay, what else we

0:48

got today? Gamers

0:50

escape from escape from Tarkov. It might

0:52

finally be over. If the Cheers weren't

0:55

enough, we've got a doozy for you.

0:58

Also, I don't know what else? Net

1:03

neutrality might be back. FCC

1:06

votes to restore Obama. Obama era

1:09

rules repealed under Trump. We're

1:12

restoring Obama. I mean you look, you see

1:14

the pictures? The day he started his term

1:16

and the day his term ended? We're

1:19

gonna restore him boys. We're gonna put that

1:21

black hair back. He's

1:24

gonna look less haunted. Dude's

1:28

seen some stuff. Oh boy.

1:31

Just roll the intro. We got

1:33

this. Wait,

1:39

what? Pretty

1:42

sick, huh? This

1:44

is awesome. Yeah,

1:57

dead. Dead in the corner. Oh

2:02

man, that's great. That's awesome. Pretty

2:05

cool. Hey, did you see that on Reddit? I

2:09

saw the post, but I never ended up actually watching it. I

2:11

meant to, but I think I just... Oh my God. That's

2:14

pretty great. It's amazing.

2:17

It's like it really raises the question, why did

2:19

we ever bother to try to create our own

2:21

intros for anything? You know that the LTT 3D1

2:24

is based on just a

2:27

random viewer that created that, and then

2:29

we reached out to them, we had

2:31

it tweaked, and now

2:34

we use that as well. Wow. That's pretty

2:36

great. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

2:39

Like that must have been...correct me if I'm

2:41

wrong, guys. If you're in the audience and

2:44

you're going like, oh yeah, that's really simple

2:46

or something, then by all means let me

2:48

know. But that looked like a freaking ton

2:50

of work to me. Absolutely

2:52

incredible. We have

2:54

one of the most, and I'm not just

2:56

blowing smoke, we have one of the most

2:59

talented viewer bases out there. When

3:02

I see stuff like that, it just absolutely blows

3:04

my mind. So that was super cool. I

3:08

feel terrible for

3:10

not knowing the name

3:13

of the person who submitted it. Do we have that handy,

3:15

Dan? Yes, that's

3:17

by Nate C. Absolutely

3:20

killed it. He remade a special

3:22

version for me without the ending credit so

3:24

that I could put our sponsors over it,

3:27

even supplied the font that was going to be for

3:29

it. Super awesome. That is

3:32

so cool. Did we give him money? I

3:35

don't know. We can follow up if you want.

3:37

Okay. Yeah, I'm going to

3:39

send a message to Vance,

3:41

and I'm going to make sure that some money

3:44

leaves our bank account. While

3:46

you do that, you were talking about housing. Amazing.

3:48

We have a very creative community. Escape from Tarkov

3:50

has a very angry community. Escape

3:53

from Tarkov developer Battlestate Games has angered

3:55

fans by releasing a new 250-year-old. US

4:00

dollar version of the game you heard

4:02

it right after taxes and fees and

4:04

everything else this is like almost 400

4:07

Canadian dollars or something like that. I don't remember

4:09

exactly But the

4:11

the fees and taxes are pretty brutal as well.

4:13

It is Wildly expensive

4:15

have you not heard of this? No,

4:19

okay, this is my one big lose

4:21

this topic dude I've

4:23

done nothing but shoot videos and inhale paint

4:26

fumes. I have no idea what's

4:28

going on Yeah, 250 us

4:30

dollar version of the game

4:32

the pricey new unheard edition

4:35

includes access to an

4:37

offline PvE co-op mode

4:39

which Supports

4:42

all of the quests and everything else that

4:44

the main game does all able to be

4:46

done in PvE co-op

4:48

actually pretty cool Like I

4:50

probably enjoy that version of the game more

4:52

because the reality of it is I love

4:54

the concept But I'm not sweaty enough to

4:56

play Tarkov. Yeah, hold on though that Existing

4:59

at all. Yeah is not why people are mad.

5:02

Yeah, we'll get there in a second Right people

5:04

love the idea that's a thing.

5:06

Yeah, totally Yeah, I've been begging

5:08

for this for I don't know.

5:10

It's the whole time the game

5:12

has existed. So yeah, totally Problem

5:15

as long as they're not plastic begging

5:17

those are banned then everything's good This

5:27

PvE co-op mode will will have

5:29

persistent progress so when the game

5:31

wipes it won't reset every time

5:34

Cool. Yeah, so those things like

5:37

like like Baldur's Gate or whatever like you can

5:39

have like a campaign that you're playing with your

5:41

friends And you're in your it's a

5:43

cool mode So if if yeah, if you can't

5:45

play all the time of that. Yeah,

5:48

exactly. Me too. I would there's there's like

5:50

every time I touch Tarkov it's

5:52

wiped like I just it's not the kind

5:54

of thing that I can commit to playing

5:56

every day or every other day I genuinely

5:58

think every time we have played played, you've

6:00

had a fresh character. So it

6:02

is what it is. Yeah. Cool. Yeah,

6:05

I think it's fantastic. There's, there's unsanctioned,

6:07

they don't like it. This is, I

6:09

don't know the, where the legality lies

6:12

on this, but there's like this thing

6:14

called SPT Tarkov where it's single player

6:16

Tarkov and there is an unofficial co-op

6:18

mode thing, but those are all, uh,

6:20

Battlestate Games fights against those and doesn't

6:22

like those. Those are, uh, they

6:25

think they're bad. So this is like an official one. Um,

6:28

the, the game's official Twitter account

6:30

has confirmed that this mode is

6:33

exclusive to the $250 US dollar

6:35

pre-taxes pre-fees

6:39

unheard edition. This is a big deal. Okay.

6:41

Really big deal. Hold on. I have a

6:43

big question here. Yeah. How did they know

6:46

that I hadn't heard about it? I just

6:51

hit my face against the mic. That made

6:53

me facepalm so hard. Um,

6:56

this is a big deal

6:58

since the, yeah, there you

7:00

go. It's a big deal

7:02

since the $150 US dollar

7:04

edge of darkness edition, which

7:07

is no longer available for

7:09

purchase, promised buyers free access

7:11

to all subsequent DLCs. And

7:14

there is actually on the subreddit, uh,

7:17

there's a screenshot of a tweet.

7:19

Are they arguing this is, they're

7:21

arguing that it's a feature, not

7:23

a DLC. Well,

7:27

what the heck is a DLC? Yeah.

7:29

What is the difference? There's a tweet. Go

7:34

for it. Can we get together and

7:36

define what exactly DLC means? Because as

7:39

far as I can tell, it's a catch all term. The

7:42

content you got, okay. Well, tell me this. Do

7:45

you download this or do they mail it to you?

7:51

I would, I, it would be so

7:53

funny if they mailed this

7:56

to everyone. So

7:58

like trying to get around it. That would be

8:01

hilarious. I mean, I'm gonna explain the cost Yeah,

8:04

I still don't think so. There's

8:06

a there's been a bunch of you Luke I have

8:10

you ever tried to mail a box of weasels like

8:12

yeah, we don't know what they're mailing. Oh man

8:17

No, sleep blindness is a heck of a thing The

8:21

what was I gonna say? There's there's been quotes

8:23

from them before about saying how like EOD or

8:25

edge of darkness is supposed to be the the

8:27

highest here They're ever gonna release There's

8:30

a screenshot of a tweet that says you don't

8:32

need to buy anything at any stage if you

8:34

have EOD You don't even have to pay for

8:36

DLCs in the future. You're all in for all

8:38

of it coming It's

8:41

it's yeah, and this would also tie

8:44

in with the fact that EOD or

8:46

edge of darkness with this All DLCs thing has existed.

8:49

I think since 2017 or 2016 even yeah, I'm not

8:51

sure but it's been at least 2017 and the

8:58

the only thing DLC-able

9:00

that has been available to them has

9:02

been a very recent release of something

9:05

called Tarkov Arena, which No

9:08

way, I would argue the vast majority

9:10

of future Yeah,

9:12

and then they never do their content and

9:15

that well they delivered Partially

9:18

and then decided that they're on a

9:20

meal pray. They don't alter it further

9:22

I mean is the Tarkov audience this

9:25

Stockholm syndrome that they just this is

9:27

their game I don't think anymore

9:29

like that's the way that I see it every time

9:31

I play Tarkov dude I'm like look if

9:34

I wasn't living and Breathing

9:36

the meta of this game There

9:38

is absolutely no way like I couldn't

9:41

I couldn't possibly hoping and some games aren't like

9:43

that some games You can drop

9:45

in six months later and fundamentally kind of

9:47

know what you're doing You know you you

9:49

jump into Team Fortress 2. It's like oh,

9:51

there's new hats. You know whatever

9:53

I'm probably gonna get beamed by you

9:55

know flying squirrel or

9:57

something but

10:01

But Tarkov, it really does feel like if you're

10:03

not on top of it, you just have no idea.

10:05

So presumably then, this

10:08

is the game that a lot

10:10

of these people play and this is going

10:12

to sound crazy. This is going to upset some people,

10:14

but $250 over a span of, let's say it's a

10:16

year. Let's

10:21

say it's a year that they actually have

10:23

this be the top tier or whatever. That's

10:29

$20 a month compared to

10:31

what some people out there who play one

10:33

game are spending on

10:35

their cosmetics, are spending on their

10:38

microtransactions. It's

10:40

not even that crazy.

10:43

Now one second, I

10:46

would never pay it. Absolutely

10:48

not. Yeah and theoretically the

10:52

people are going to pay it. Yes,

10:54

and some people already have. Some streamers already

10:56

have, which was a little disappointing. Yeah, Battle

10:58

State's going to learn nothing. I

11:00

think they're going to learn something actually. Their

11:05

player base is extremely on fire right now.

11:08

The subreddit is on fire. People are trying

11:10

to spin up lawsuits because again, there was

11:12

a version that said you get all DLC.

11:14

They've been quoted saying that you don't have

11:17

to pay anything again because you own all

11:19

the things and then now they release something

11:21

that is incredibly

11:24

more expensive than it was before. And

11:27

there's continued issues. We're not even through the main

11:29

body of this topic. There's a lot to talk

11:32

about here. You mentioned there being no other games.

11:34

I got to jump in for a second

11:37

though because Time Stamp guy Noki is coming

11:40

in correcting me on Team Fortress 2. You

11:43

often use TF2 as an example, but they

11:45

haven't added any new weapons since Jungle Inferno

11:47

2017. Metas

11:49

pop up every now and then, but nearly everything has been

11:51

static ever since. Okay, well let me tell

11:54

you something, Noki. I play Team

11:56

Fortress 2 once every approximately three years.

12:00

Yeah, so sorry.

12:04

Yes, you're probably right. My

12:06

big moment for TF2 was when they

12:08

started adding all the like rando weapons.

12:10

And I was just like, oh, okay,

12:12

now I have to pay attention to

12:14

this game a lot. You're right. It's

12:16

not really a huge issue anymore because

12:18

all this kind of moved on to

12:21

other money making endeavors. But it

12:23

was an example back then. And I

12:25

should have clarified because I should

12:27

have known that they haven't added any weapons since

12:29

Jungle Inferno 2017. Thank

12:32

you very much, Noki. And can we

12:34

just get a little bit of appreciation for Noki? Thanks,

12:36

Noki. Every week, like an

12:38

absolute chat. Yeah. All right,

12:40

thank you. Full-plane

12:43

customer support Joe in full-plane

12:46

chat said offline co-op progression servers are slammed with

12:48

20 to 30 minute queue times. People

12:50

are buying it. So I'm sad. Which

12:53

this is like, man, that is the

12:55

most if EOD buyers, so

12:57

people who bought the edge of darkness edition that said

12:59

they got all the free DLC and they never need

13:01

to pay for anything again. If those people upgraded their

13:03

accounts, that's like the most. I

13:06

feel like this is like an outdated term, but that's like the

13:08

most beta thing ever. They

13:11

just scammed the hell out of you. Wow. It's going to

13:13

be you with the hot takes. Yeah, they

13:15

just scammed the hell out of you. And

13:17

you were like, all right.

13:19

Yeah, please take more of my money. You

13:22

just abused me here. Let me financially support

13:24

you further. So, yeah, that's a little weird

13:26

to me. I don't support that

13:28

at all. But anyways, moving

13:31

forward, I'm going to try to get

13:33

through more of this topic and then we can discuss. Oh,

13:35

no, no, I'm not actually. I'm going to tangent again.

13:37

You said there's no other games. Funny

13:40

timing. There's

13:43

a very recent game now in early access.

13:45

Is it in early access? No, you can

13:47

just request it. I think they had

13:49

a play test recently or something. I'm not really sure what's

13:51

going on with this, but Greyzone Warfare is a game that

13:53

has like a... It's not

13:55

the same thing, but it will probably capture

13:57

a very similar audience. During

14:01

this, Battlestate Games, I think

14:03

most notably Nikita, got in

14:05

a direct argument with another

14:07

game called Arena Breakout Infinite

14:10

that they are claiming is

14:13

a direct ripoff of Tarkov. So

14:15

maybe there is an alternative for

14:17

people, but we'll see.

14:21

Oh my god, I just

14:23

read the next bullet point.

14:25

This is unbelievable. In

14:27

an attempt to fix the

14:29

situation, Battlestate Games COO Nikita

14:31

Buyanov took to Reddit to

14:34

announce this is great.

14:36

They're giving Edge of Darkness buyers access

14:38

to the offline PvE mode. This is

14:40

less great for six months. Yeah. That

14:44

is unhinged. Yeah.

14:47

That's not even the next bullet point though. There's more. This

14:50

is a super hardcore game. You die,

14:52

you lose all your stuff. And

14:54

this edition of the game is

14:57

directly, unquestionably, pay

14:59

to win in multiple ways.

15:02

Oh no. Why would you have a pay to

15:04

win co-op game, Luke? No, no, no, no. Why

15:07

would you have a PvE pay to win? The

15:10

features are in co-op, but also in

15:13

the main game. So

15:16

there's things

15:19

like... Let me see if

15:21

I can find... Yeah,

15:23

here we go. Wait, no, this is update regarding

15:25

the EOD edition. You

15:27

know, I hate to generalize,

15:30

but can gamers grow a backbone a little

15:32

bit? Yeah. Like

15:35

the gaming community has to be one of the most

15:37

whiny communities. But

15:40

when it comes time to actually just do

15:43

something, or better yet, not

15:45

do something, just don't

15:47

buy it. They can't.

15:49

And I realize I've probably gone on

15:51

this rant before, but like, this

15:53

is just embarrassing. I mean,

15:56

look, I don't think you're allowed to use the

15:58

term beta male anymore. Maybe not. It's

16:03

for real. It's just like... You're getting a

16:05

view and then giving them more money. Yeah.

16:08

It's like... maybe

16:11

there's a more correct current term. I don't know what

16:13

it is. But

16:16

yeah, let me read through some of the features

16:19

of this edition. Fine.

16:24

I'm not even going to read through all of them because one of

16:26

them is like digital copy preload, which is like, who cares. So

16:29

access to that PvE mode, that's cool.

16:32

I wish there was other ways to buy it so

16:34

you didn't have to spend an amount of money that

16:36

most people don't even have to spend on video games

16:38

at all, let alone one of them. Increased

16:41

stash size, so that's like

16:43

mostly a... No way. You

16:47

get a bigger stash? So hold on.

16:49

It's so much worse. It's

16:52

so much worse. Expanded

16:55

PMC pockets. So

16:57

while you're playing, you have a limited amount

16:59

of inventory space. The game

17:01

works and it has a

17:03

very complicated and important economy. And

17:06

being able to take more things out

17:08

of the raid will make it so

17:10

that in future raids you're going to

17:12

be better geared because you have a

17:14

better financial situation. And having increased pocket

17:16

sizes... Well yeah, it has like a

17:18

cumulative effect. Yeah, so before...

17:21

Whatever. It'll have a snowball effect because if

17:23

you can take so much more stuff out,

17:26

you can carry out more stuff to sell

17:28

and then you can buy more cooler stuff,

17:30

which means you can kill

17:32

people even more easily and better and raid their stuff

17:34

and take even more. But this is ridiculous. And it

17:37

makes it so that if you're trying to do a

17:39

run where you're trying to be very economic, you

17:41

can actually bring less stuff in because not

17:43

only do you have more pocket slots, before

17:46

you had four one by one pocket slots.

17:49

Now you have two one by one pocket slots

17:51

and two two by one pocket slots. So

17:54

you have tall things that you

17:56

can put like full size magazines in. I

18:01

don't dude I don't think that there is a scandal

18:03

big enough to make gamers wake

18:05

up like literally this version

18:07

of the game Could be

18:09

could be called Give

18:11

me your money bitch edition internal. Yeah,

18:13

that's a total codename that might even

18:16

be leak and Gamers

18:18

would do it anyway. Yeah. Yeah

18:22

So in addition to the the pockets and the

18:24

sash size you also have an increased like

18:29

Reputation standing with one of the the characters

18:31

in the game called fence so that you

18:33

can sell more stuff on the flea market

18:35

Which is like player-to-player selling and

18:37

you have more slots on the flea

18:39

market So you can put more things on

18:41

the flea market Which is directly going to

18:43

mean that you're going to be able to

18:45

make more money faster, which is a huge

18:47

portion of the game You

18:49

get a unique in-game melee weapon,

18:51

which people found was just

18:54

an asset from the unity asset store Directly

18:56

taken they didn't do any form of modification

18:58

to it. It's just literally straight

19:01

up an asset from the asset store I don't remember

19:03

if it was like a free asset or like a

19:05

six dollar asset or something, but they just like oh You're

19:08

the asset. Yeah, pretty much Increased

19:11

mail retention time so like if you

19:13

if you buy insurance, oh,

19:15

yeah If you

19:17

buy like insurance in the game or something like that

19:19

look Most

19:22

People don't play Tarkov. So

19:24

there's a lot of people watching this that are probably

19:26

going I don't understand anything It's a big deal

19:28

out of this Yeah And I get this I

19:31

get this every time that I talk about something

19:33

that Apple is doing that is super anti consumer

19:35

as well Where you know you'll have the usual

19:37

crowd of low-line is just hates Apple. Just

19:40

don't buy it You'll you'll get you'll

19:42

get that sort of that chorus of

19:44

bad takes where people are are missing

19:46

the big picture here the big picture

19:49

is that this is a this is a

19:51

precedent now and Outrage

19:53

we have a limited capacity

19:55

for outrage, right? We

19:58

were so outraged and I know we talk about

20:00

this one a lot. We were outraged about

20:02

horse armor in Oblivion. Nowadays, we're

20:05

basically like men, this game is

20:08

great because all their

20:11

DLC is cosmetic and

20:13

not balance shifting. Or, you know

20:16

what, we can maybe

20:18

allow for this skin, this

20:20

really popular skin. It's

20:23

kind of more camouflaged on this

20:25

map and that map. You know

20:27

what, we'll still accept that. You

20:29

know what, realistically you could farm

20:31

for ammo for that super OP

20:34

gun, so you don't have to

20:36

buy ammunition. I know

20:38

that slippery slope arguments are not

20:40

very good arguments, but when

20:42

you are slipping down the

20:44

slope, actively tumbling

20:46

head over heels, like what's going

20:49

on with this Tarkov situation, where

20:51

they are taking a game where

20:54

balance is everything

20:56

to the experience and

20:59

messing it up and charging you a bunch of money.

21:01

My connection

21:09

didn't actually die there, my brain is slow today because

21:11

I didn't sleep last night and I ran out of

21:14

steam. I thought if I

21:16

just stop moving, then maybe they'll think I'm not

21:18

with the connection. I

21:21

brought up the trailer and got

21:24

some visual representations of

21:26

some of the pay to win things. Here's

21:28

your increased stash size, here's your increased PMC

21:30

pockets. You can see how these ones are

21:33

taller, so you can fit full size magazines

21:35

in your pockets now that was never possible

21:37

before. Now you could go without attack rig,

21:40

so you're spending less money on doing

21:42

future raids. Your character skills are just

21:45

increased. This was already a weird thing in

21:47

my opinion because people who could play the

21:49

game for a living would have higher base

21:51

skills because it would take an obscene

21:55

amount of hours to level these skills up.

22:00

maybe work for a living and then

22:02

spend money on the game can also

22:04

have increased skills and that can directly

22:06

make it so that if you play

22:08

exactly the same the

22:10

person with the higher skill count could beat you

22:12

because some of these things are like you won't

22:15

bleed as as easily or You're

22:17

more accurate or reload faster with guns. You

22:19

can run for longer. You can carry more

22:21

stuff you can Jump higher

22:23

what like if you're if your strength is high enough

22:25

in the game You can jump

22:27

on to things that other people can't like it's it's

22:30

being able to have higher skills is directly pay to win

22:32

Right and then down here improve

22:34

starting equipment set Which

22:38

is less of a big deal in my mind and

22:40

then moving forward Every

22:45

idea that battle state games implements here

22:47

is something that we will see

22:50

implemented somewhere else when

22:52

inevitably gamers just lie

22:54

down and take it and There's

22:57

no consequences. So here it

22:59

is. This is my call for anyone

23:01

who Is

23:04

actually into Tarkov because they're

23:06

the only ones who can who can make

23:08

up set a precedent here who

23:10

can say look? This is too far Don't

23:13

play it. Yeah, like seriously set a

23:15

calendar set a calendar. I look I get

23:17

it. It's your favorite game That's

23:20

chill set a calendar

23:22

notification for yourself for six months

23:25

At least a temporary boycott will send

23:27

a message like yeah It might

23:30

not affect their wallet because realistically you already

23:32

bought the game anyway, whatever But

23:35

what it will do is it will cause

23:38

their concurrent player counts to decline it

23:40

will send an actual message

23:42

that they can actually understand it

23:44

will degrade the gaming experience for

23:48

New people who come in and they're like this thing is

23:50

empty and to be clear. It's

23:52

not about punishing them It's about punishing

23:54

battle state games. It's about like look we

23:57

are your community. We are

24:00

What makes your game good? Treat

24:03

us with respect act

24:05

like you deserve respect and you might get some

24:07

there. That's it Yeah,

24:10

oh Wow Six

24:14

months boycott don't play Whoa

24:19

the the top. Oh, no

24:21

what now the top Tarkov streamer

24:23

right now I

24:26

believe is Streaming modded

24:28

single-player Tarkov, which is a

24:31

little unheard of in

24:34

my mind 5,000

24:36

viewers are watching this person playing a modded

24:38

version of the game, which is like super

24:41

not okay with Tarkov. I Was

24:45

just wondering I was gonna go see like how many streamers are

24:47

currently playing this I wouldn't go after Streamers

24:50

that are playing the game It's really rough when

24:52

like if you're if your entire income stream is

24:54

based around like playing this one game even

24:57

if the Company that runs

24:59

that game does something deplorable It's it's

25:01

rough to kind of fully pull out

25:04

but maybe encourage people to to try

25:06

out alternatives like Greyzone warfare Or

25:09

potentially it's not out yet And I know nothing

25:11

about the game at all But arena breakout infinite

25:13

alternate games that are in somewhat

25:15

of a similar style that you think they might like

25:17

and their audiences might also like But

25:19

I wouldn't go around don't don't go around

25:21

like harassing streamers for playing it, but Yeah

25:25

rough I I was already

25:27

done because their response to the whole

25:29

cheater situation was a giant nothing burger

25:32

And I'm not down to Play

25:35

a game like this with a bunch of cheaters

25:37

and then when I first heard this announced I

25:39

didn't see the price tag and

25:42

I saw the The co-op

25:45

PvE mode and I was so

25:47

stoked because I was like we're back. This

25:49

game is super sick It's not gonna wipe I can

25:51

play with like Linus or Joe or whoever else is

25:54

a bunch of different people that I play with It'll

25:58

be fun. We don't have to deal with any of that kind of stuff and

26:00

then I

26:04

was like, ah, no, yeah, no. I don't want

26:06

anyone to buy this. So I guess that's never happening.

26:09

There's other weird stuff too. Like there's an

26:11

item that you can get. I think this

26:14

might only be if you have the Unheard

26:16

edition or something, I'm not certain, where Scavs,

26:18

the scavengers, basically the AI characters in the

26:20

game, won't shoot you if you

26:22

are 60 meters

26:25

or more away, but

26:27

like only if you have this version. So it's like, it's

26:29

super pay to win. I don't think anyone

26:31

that like enjoyed the hardcore

26:33

realism nature of Tarkov should honestly play

26:36

anymore. I think this entirely broke the

26:38

game, but it's up to

26:40

you guys to make your own decisions. Moving

26:42

on though, next topic. We're gonna see what happens. Apparently

26:44

that streamer got permission to stream

26:46

that version of the game. Really?

26:50

From Battle State? Apparently. What?

26:53

Apparently, that's what Flipplane Chat is

26:55

saying. Unprecedented

26:58

times. Anyway, we can move on to our next

27:00

topic. They

27:03

said they wouldn't DMCA him. I

27:07

mean. Cool? That's

27:12

weird. I don't know what that means. Okay.

27:14

But anyways. Do

27:17

you wanna talk about Mozilla blasting dating apps?

27:19

This one's really interesting to me. Yeah, according

27:21

to a- As if we're into the dating

27:23

apps. Yeah, we're both

27:25

very active in this realm. According

27:27

to a recent report with Mozilla,

27:29

dating apps are growing increasingly aggressive

27:31

and invasive when it comes to

27:34

collecting users' personal information, having declined

27:36

significantly since the last time Mozilla

27:38

reviewed their privacy practices in 2021.

27:41

Around 80% of the apps reviewed

27:43

share or sell personal

27:46

information and do not guarantee users'

27:48

right to delete their data. Most apps

27:50

requires users to opt out of precision

27:52

geolocation tracking and do not appear to

27:54

adequately protect the data that they collect.

27:57

At least one Catholic group was able

27:59

to- out a priest

28:01

after buying Grindr, Scruff, and

28:03

OkCupid user data. Grindr

28:06

is also facing a class

28:08

action lawsuit alleging that it

28:10

unlawfully shared UK users HIV

28:12

status with vendors, something

28:16

which Grindr admitted to doing,

28:19

though it denies doing so for

28:21

commercial purposes. What? What?

28:25

You just

28:27

did it because you thought it would be fun? Like,

28:30

what? Due to

28:32

the nature of dating apps, much

28:34

of this information can be incredibly

28:36

personal and revealing, including religious affiliations,

28:38

political beliefs, and sexual history. These

28:41

companies also automatically aggregate information from

28:43

users, devices, social media, third parties,

28:45

and the metadata of uploaded content

28:47

like photos. Match Group,

28:49

who own over 40 dating apps

28:51

including Tinder, Hinge, Match, and OkCupid,

28:53

say that private DMs are scanned

28:55

by automated tools and may be

28:57

reviewed by human agents if the

28:59

bot flags potential illegal or

29:01

unsafe behavior. However, DMs are

29:04

also reviewed in

29:06

order to evaluate, train, and improve

29:08

their automated tools. Okay,

29:11

this one blew my mind because

29:13

basically if they left it at

29:15

the beginning, if they left it at, okay,

29:17

there's something potentially unsafe here, it has to

29:19

be reviewed by a moderator, you

29:21

know what? I kind of get that because inherent

29:23

to a dating app, you're going to

29:26

have monstrous things happening.

29:28

You're going to have human trafficking potentially, you know,

29:30

like you, oh yeah, these platforms do

29:32

have to be moderated to at least some degree.

29:36

However, saying,

29:38

look, we can review basically

29:40

anything we want for

29:43

the purpose of evaluating, training,

29:46

and improving our automated tools, that's

29:48

basically saying, yeah, it's like selling

29:50

a camera. It's like,

29:52

yeah, I'll just tune

29:55

into it whenever I feel like it. Cool?

29:58

Cool. Like, I... I haven't

30:01

used a dating app before, so I'm

30:03

going to sound potentially kind of out

30:05

of touch here, but I don't

30:10

imagine that this is clear to the

30:12

user when they sign up for this

30:14

thing. Like, guys, are

30:16

you on one of these

30:19

platforms? Was it clear

30:21

that they might be collecting and

30:23

sharing your sexual history and any

30:27

infections you might have? Or,

30:30

man, reading your

30:32

DMs? Yo! Like,

30:35

what? I've heard tell that some of

30:37

the younger generations are trying

30:40

to go back to more

30:42

archaic versions of dating, skipping the whole dating

30:44

app thing, which I think is fantastic.

30:47

Very good job. Keep going. Wow.

30:51

It's buried in the TOS, I'm sure. Yeah, a lot of people

30:53

are not saying. These

30:56

apps have also become significantly

30:58

more gamified and addictive, in

31:01

part to cope with declining revenues and

31:03

market share. As millennials have

31:05

gotten older and settled down, Gen

31:07

Z users have become the largest population

31:09

of singles. However, they are typically less

31:11

interested in hookups and casual dating than

31:13

previous generations. Did I just get slut-shamed?

31:15

I think so. I

31:17

think our whole generation did. Which,

31:20

you know, sounds probably about accurate. You

31:23

know what? Pre-love, man. Yeah,

31:26

man. Yeah. The discussion question, is

31:28

there an inherent problem having

31:30

platforms involved in something as intimate

31:33

as personal dating? I

31:35

don't think it has to be. But

31:38

it looks like it obviously is. No, I think if

31:41

you respect – yeah, if you respect user data,

31:44

then no, it shouldn't be a problem.

31:46

You should – If

31:50

you just make it so that you can't raid DMs

31:52

unless you're like basically – The way is brutal. Yeah.

31:54

I don't know why it's so delayed. You're not that

31:56

far away. But I'm noticing the same thing.

32:00

If it would

32:02

be nice if they couldn't read any DMS

32:04

unless one of the users involved flagged the

32:06

conversation That

32:09

would that would make cool in floatplane chat

32:11

says when I was at This

32:14

place we had a presentation by tinder

32:16

execs on data usage and

32:18

getting to profitability and it was

32:20

a very creepy conversation Yeah,

32:25

I don't I don't doubt that I

32:27

don't doubt that at all but but

32:30

like this really does seem like the kind

32:32

of thing that could be done and It's

32:35

it's just it's just

32:37

people you know power corrupts absolute power

32:39

corrupts absolutely or whatever, right? Like because

32:42

people who enter personal information in a

32:44

dating app compared to a political survey

32:47

or compared to You

32:49

know a workplace Profile

32:51

survey or something like that Assuming

32:54

that they have an

32:56

earnest Desire to find

32:59

a partner. I was

33:01

reading about how people will answer

33:04

questions much more honestly and transparently

33:07

because By hiding it

33:09

they all they're the only person they're

33:11

hurting is themselves and so All

33:14

they had to do was say okay And

33:17

our service is to pair you up with

33:19

someone and you pay us for that and

33:22

we don't have to have growth forever We don't have

33:24

to have limitless growth. I at

33:28

risk of sounding like Like

33:31

like like an anti-capitalist man,

33:34

the the and the Enshitification

33:37

of everything just does seem inevitable

33:39

when you have this mindset of

33:41

needing growth forever Yeah,

33:43

yeah, I Understand it

33:45

to a much greater degree now, but especially when

33:48

I was younger. I would I

33:50

would come across a news article. That's like Big

33:53

company X has missed

33:56

their their estimated earnings

33:58

that the share that

34:00

analysts were expecting from them by

34:03

two cents per share

34:05

and their stock price tumbled 10%. In

34:08

other news, they made $10 billion

34:11

this quarter. I

34:14

would listen to that and be like, sorry, what? They

34:17

make hundreds of millions or they make a billion

34:20

dollars or billions of dollars in this

34:22

time period, but they didn't do as

34:25

good ever as we expected and that

34:27

we were gambling on that

34:29

we had kind of priced into their

34:32

gamble-a-tron share price. So

34:35

what? They need to do a bunch of

34:37

stock buybacks? Who announced huge, huge

34:40

stock buybacks just now? I forget

34:42

who it was, but

34:45

their share price, I think it was Google. I've

34:48

done this until I find it. Google

34:50

surges after buying back billions of dollars

34:53

of its own stock a day ago,

34:55

$70 billion. Do

34:58

you know why a company buys back stock? There's

35:01

two potential reasons. One is they're expecting

35:04

it to go up a lot and

35:06

so that could be good value

35:08

to own more of their company if they're super

35:10

confident they're going to do awesome. But do you

35:12

know the real reason they do it? I've

35:15

had a- Their share price goes up. The

35:23

personal investments that the executives have in

35:25

that company and that the shareholders have

35:27

in that company go up. It's just

35:29

to enrich them personally. When

35:32

you look at a company like Google over the last

35:34

year or so, what were the big bumps to their

35:36

stock? Laying off a bunch of employees

35:39

and using that money to

35:41

buy back a bunch of stock. I

35:44

was talking about this on the pre-show, but I was

35:46

watching the John Oliver bit on Boeing. Really

35:50

fascinating. You can basically

35:53

trace back their decline into

35:55

crappiness to the moment that

35:58

they started spending their money on stock buybacks. instead

36:00

of on making a good product. Why

36:03

don't we have systems? Why

36:05

don't companies implement systems that

36:08

punish terrible, terrible

36:11

long-term thinking? I don't understand

36:13

it guys. Yeah, I

36:15

always had this theory that maybe not stock buybacks

36:17

to the tune of 70 billion dollars, but I

36:20

always had this theory that smaller

36:22

size stock buybacks were based

36:24

around a lot of

36:27

companies do stock as compensation. So how do

36:29

you just keep doing that forever? So you

36:31

probably have to buy some of your own

36:33

stock and then it makes this cyclical thing

36:35

where you're increasing the value of your stock

36:37

by buying your stock and then giving stock

36:40

to your employees which increases how much they

36:42

want to potentially stay or try hard or

36:44

whatever. If that even works, who knows? A

36:46

little more complicated than that. You can issue

36:48

more stock without necessarily buying the stock.

36:52

Does that dilute the value of the stock that you currently

36:54

have though? Because

36:56

you added more.

36:59

I genuinely don't know. Yeah.

37:01

Every company works a little bit

37:04

differently. If

37:07

Yvonne Umbrella Corporation group of

37:09

companies had some kind of

37:11

stock program, I

37:13

personally would feel that we should take a

37:17

Bitcoin-like approach where

37:19

not necessarily that you use GPUs or

37:21

ASICs to mint more of the stock.

37:23

I just like the stock. That's why

37:25

I buy all these GPUs. So

37:28

not from that point of view, but from the

37:30

point of view that they are finite and

37:33

in order to issue incentives, for

37:35

example, we would have to actually

37:37

be profitable.

37:39

We'd have to actually own what we give someone.

37:43

I don't know how that would work and maybe

37:45

I'm just naive, but from my point

37:47

of view, it's always been frustrating

37:49

to me that if I

37:53

have something that's worth a value that

37:56

someone can just like decide, oh yeah,

37:59

no, actually. Actually it's like less than that. Yeah.

38:04

Not financial advice guys. Not

38:07

financial advice. I'll be the first

38:09

to admit that when it comes

38:11

to stocks, when it comes to

38:13

real world finance stuff,

38:20

I don't get it and I think part of it

38:23

is almost just like a

38:25

rejection of it. Like I actually not sure if

38:27

I care to get it. I don't

38:29

have to play the game so maybe I

38:31

just won't. Maybe I'll take my ball and go

38:33

home. I know that's the

38:35

majority of it for me. I

38:37

hate it. It just feels so... Yeah,

38:41

I'm not going to get into all the reasons why.

38:44

We'll get to a new topic.

38:46

EV company blows whistle on potential

38:48

corruption. This is one

38:50

that hits genuinely close to

38:52

actual home. The

38:54

government of British Columbia, Canada

38:56

is investigating allegations of potential

38:58

conflicts of interest in how

39:00

provincial low carbon innovation grants

39:03

are administered. This

39:05

follows an allegation from CEO

39:07

Chase Barber of Edison Motors

39:09

who claims that MNP, a

39:12

gigantic accounting firm involved in

39:14

administering grants, reached out to

39:16

his company after declining their

39:19

first application. According

39:24

to... Let's build the doc together

39:26

a little quickly today folks. Yeah,

39:28

it's genuinely not their fault. I'm just

39:30

trying to piece it together. By

39:32

the way, just a quick shout out

39:34

Edison Motors. These guys are doing absolutely

39:36

incredible work. If anyone from Edison

39:38

is watching right now, we would love to do a

39:41

video together. That would be sick. I think actually Alex

39:43

from our team may be in touch but just want

39:45

to indicate my super willingness

39:49

to come over there and check out what you

39:51

guys are doing because it's outstanding. It looks

39:53

absolutely incredible. That would be awesome. According

39:56

to Barber, rolling back just

39:58

because it's been a little bit, the CEO of Edison Motors Edison

40:00

Motors. MNP offered Edison Motors

40:02

a service to help them apply

40:04

for future grants which included a

40:07

success fee of 20% of

40:09

the grant's value. Ew. Should the application

40:15

succeed? It's unclear from publicly available

40:17

information whether these grants included the

40:19

ones that MNP was helping administer.

40:21

I'm gonna pause, there's more of

40:23

this topic, but I've heard of

40:25

this a lot before with government

40:27

grants where they're effectively impossible to

40:29

get unless you partner with a

40:31

company who takes a significant portion

40:33

of the money which means that

40:35

your government tax credits which are

40:37

supposed to power innovation

40:39

and business growth within your country are

40:43

being diluted by middlemen that is

40:46

the only way to actually get them. Well the

40:48

business of being a worthless middleman is a business,

40:50

they're growing that business. We should

40:52

find a way to delete all of them. Anyways

40:55

I'm going to move on. Barbara

40:58

says that he raised concerns with the Energy

41:01

Ministry in person and shortly

41:03

after his company was disinvited

41:05

from a promotional event

41:07

by a government-funded lobby

41:09

group for vehicle electrification.

41:11

Edison Motors is the only

41:13

company in the province that manufactures

41:16

heavy-duty electric trucks. MNP

41:18

has threatened to sue Edison Motors which is a small privately owned

41:20

company. According

41:28

to Barbara the company can't afford a legal

41:30

battle with a billion dollar company. Neither

41:34

could like most people so I don't

41:37

blame them. Ann

41:40

stated that he personally lives with his

41:42

parents because as far as my understanding

41:45

goes he has invested like everything he

41:47

can into the company which is the

41:49

like driven dedicated.

41:51

That's what we should be

41:53

trying to encourage. Yes. That's

41:55

what we should want out of entrepreneurs. Edison

41:57

Motors has been doing everything that it takes

41:59

to kill it and we should be supporting that. They've

42:02

been pushing limits of technology, they've been pushing

42:04

limits of quality, they've been doing all these

42:06

things that like, like we, British Columbia should

42:08

be very proud of this company and be

42:10

trying to prop them up, not trying to

42:12

step on their neck. So this is very

42:15

frustrating. We've got a couple discussion questions.

42:17

Even if MNP hasn't technically done anything

42:19

wrong, shouldn't Edison Motors be allowed to

42:22

raise concerns without the threat of a

42:24

company crushing lawsuit? Yeah,

42:27

absolutely. I mean, you should be able to

42:29

raise concerns about anything ever. And the

42:32

worst case scenario should be, you know,

42:34

hey, we've, we've investigated your concerns and

42:36

we don't agree with them. Like

42:39

you can't be punished for,

42:42

for real. I mean, honestly, though, there's so

42:44

many things that are like this. I mean,

42:47

the US is finally growing a spine

42:49

about the whole realtor thing, how

42:51

difficult it is to sell a home without

42:53

a realtor and how, how those

42:56

fees have absolutely ballooned in recent

42:58

decades to the point where the

43:01

simple job of being a sales

43:03

rep and helping you list

43:05

your house and fill out

43:07

some paperwork has turned people

43:09

into these multi gazillionaires. And

43:11

to be clear, I'm not down on anyone

43:14

who's busting their butt as a realtor. I

43:16

understand that it's one of those skills that's

43:18

there being a streamer. Yeah, where where the

43:21

the 1% that are

43:24

crushing it are sort of overrepresented in

43:26

our in our perception, but actually, most

43:28

of them are struggling to sell a

43:30

house. Whereas those few that are

43:33

succeeding have, you know, a team of people working

43:35

for them. And they're basically just parasitically

43:37

taking money from them. I

43:41

get that. But also just the

43:43

business of being a middleman should be

43:47

fine. But it

43:49

shouldn't be this lucrative. And you

43:51

know what, Luke, I, I

43:53

don't want to get too much into it. But

43:55

we've as a company, had experiences

43:58

that strike me Oh, yeah. Not

44:00

that dissimilar to this. Oh yeah, I've directly

44:02

been involved with some of them. Yeah.

44:07

And none of this should be necessary. You

44:09

should be able to fill out the paperwork

44:11

the right way and

44:13

submit your application according to the

44:15

process that is on your government's

44:17

website, and it should be processed

44:19

in priority sequence, and

44:21

then it should be dealt with. Okay,

44:25

you know what? Fine, I'm saying it. Yvonne is

44:27

still chasing some kind of credit that we've

44:29

been due since, I think, 2018. Well,

44:34

what? I'm sure if

44:36

we knew someone, that wouldn't be the case.

44:38

And the biggest problem with that, because if

44:40

you're hearing this, yes, that's a very, very,

44:42

very, very, very long delay. That is pretty

44:45

ridiculous. It's 2024 now. That's six years. The

44:48

biggest impact of that to me is

44:50

not something that we necessarily even felt

44:52

that much, which is if you're

44:54

not as... That was when we needed

44:56

the money. Exactly. We're still here six

44:58

years later. We needed it then.

45:01

Yes. If you're a smaller

45:03

startup company, you

45:06

need everything you can possibly get, because you

45:08

don't have a lot of assets yet. You

45:11

don't have a significant amount of cash flow

45:13

yet, probably. All these other

45:15

things. You need that capital to be able

45:17

to keep progressing. So by holding it for

45:19

this long and making it so hard to

45:21

get, what you're

45:23

really doing is only enabling

45:26

large companies to be

45:28

able to get this

45:30

money, which

45:32

in a lot of cases they probably

45:34

didn't even really need. It

45:37

might benefit them. They might be able to do a little bit

45:39

more from it, but they probably didn't need it. And

45:41

the companies that really needed it, it could have

45:44

made or break their whole company, and then they'd

45:46

be fine after that, are generally unable to get

45:48

it. So very

45:52

frustrating. Shout out Edison Motors. These guys are

45:54

doing super cool stuff. We'd love

45:57

to collab with them and see if we can get

45:59

them some much needed attention. attention, see if they can

46:01

invest in business their way. Honestly, what I suspect is

46:04

that their bottleneck, because the product is super cool,

46:06

what I suspect is that their bottleneck is more

46:08

just capital, which is probably

46:10

why this is so frustrating

46:12

for them. I'm speculating right now, but

46:15

when your tech is that cool, I

46:18

suspect it's production capacity that's holding them back

46:20

right now, not having a cool product. My

46:22

grandpa used to work in financing four semi

46:25

trucks. These

46:28

things are expensive. I'm sure

46:30

a new company trying to get into the space isn't

46:32

going to be able to produce an enormous

46:35

amount of them all the time. There's

46:38

a lot of

46:41

cost involved. Sponsor

46:43

time? All right. Do you

46:45

want me to hit these? Yeah, let's

46:47

do that, but we've got a bit of a scary merch update.

46:50

Are we supposed to do some merch messages? Sorry,

46:54

we'll get those after sponsors, I think. Okay,

46:58

let's do it. Luke's going to do it

47:00

today because my brain is bad. Yeah, yeah,

47:02

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new MagSafe compatible wallet and then I'm supposed

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to show how this works. Oh, I'm supposed

48:30

to go to, I don't think I actually

48:32

have one for this. How do I fix

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this? Just do luke cam. Luke cam, three

48:37

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Hey, yeah, I wasn't even doing that intentionally, but that

48:51

is a, I have a pineapple

48:53

and an Apple pen or something. Something like that?

48:56

Yeah, sure. I don't remember how it goes. There's an adapter

48:58

too? There's an adapter. Yeah. Okay.

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So there's, yeah, there's some 3M tape on

49:02

the back. I'm assuming you just peel this

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off, stick it onto whatever phone you have

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That one is missing. Alright, cool.

51:13

Thanks, Luke. That was a good sponsor

51:15

read. I have some good news. Mr.

51:18

Matt from our procurement team says,

51:21

Hey, Dan, want to tell Linus we're getting

51:23

ready to go with Edison Motors? Waiting

51:25

on the weather to get better before going up the Coca-Cola

51:27

highway and going to check them out? Oh,

51:29

let's go. I love their shorts. That's great.

51:31

Yeah, that's how I found them too, actually.

51:34

Yeah, super cool. I didn't know they were

51:36

from here originally, and that's amazing. Yeah. I

51:40

ended up deep diving a little bit after I found one of

51:42

their shorts and then figured out they were from here, which is

51:44

pretty cool. I think we need to do some announcements. Do

51:47

we have a... is there store stuff

51:49

or anything? Yeah. Merch, yeah. Yeah,

51:51

we do. We have a date for

51:54

the screwdriver bit set pricing increase. Oh,

51:57

good lord. Okay, I warned you guys about this a little while ago,

51:59

but... There's not much warning

52:01

here. They're going up starting Monday,

52:03

April 29th. So if you

52:05

want to get some screwdriver vidsets, they're going from $6.99, which

52:09

apparently is not profitable, so cool,

52:12

to $9.99, which apparently

52:14

is better. Thank

52:18

you, CEO Taren. So

52:22

make sure you get those at $6.99 while you can.

52:26

They're going to be going up on Monday, April 29th. We

52:29

also have restocks of some of our graphic keys,

52:31

including the neon hard drive, sensor,

52:34

and retro GPU. I have no way of screen

52:36

sharing with you guys, so you might just have

52:38

to kind of imagine what those look like. But

52:41

if you want to send a merch message, those might be

52:43

some things you want to pick up. I

52:45

need a nap before I go to this party tonight, though, so I

52:47

don't know if we're going to get to every merch message. But yeah,

52:50

we'll definitely try and do a few. Luke,

52:53

Luke Week. What is Luke Week? Luke

52:57

Week, yeah. We're doing something special on full

52:59

play next week, and it's all about me,

53:01

I guess. We will have a few me-centric

53:04

videos, including the iconic chicken recipe. No, no,

53:06

no, no, no. No, no, if we're going

53:08

to have Luke Week, we need Linus Week.

53:12

Yeah. And I hear... No, I understand your argument. Every

53:14

week is Linus Week, and you know what? That's fair,

53:16

but I think we can all agree. There's no such

53:18

thing as too much Linus Week. No,

53:20

I think we should... Is

53:23

it Ashley? No,

53:26

no, I'm totally kidding. It's just funny that after

53:28

all these years, we have Luke Week. All

53:31

you had to wait was 10 and a half years.

53:34

On a platform that he's in charge of. Hey, whoa,

53:36

whoa, whoa, whoa. So the whole idea is that... Luke

53:38

literally was the inventor. He was

53:40

the inventor of Brandon Appreciation Day, and

53:42

it's taken him all these years to

53:44

get his own appreciation week. It's

53:48

not an appreciation week. My goodness.

53:50

There's going to be other people as well. It's not

53:53

just me. I didn't choose that it was me that

53:55

started this. I

53:58

don't know. I just... Yeah, I knew your ego was... Oh

54:00

my goodness take off at some point. I was asked

54:03

and I just didn't say no You've

54:05

got one chicken recipe. Okay, you're not a god

54:15

There's a video where I cook and talk

54:17

about the chicken recipe and I get I

54:19

get already to try it There's

54:21

my thoughts on the gaming industry and

54:24

a video of meeting my

54:26

birds. So there's three videos coming So

54:30

your haul passes already Yeah,

54:33

so the whole like yeah,

54:36

that's a little weird Don't

54:38

worry about it because the chicken

54:40

recipe it has a 100% success rate.

54:42

So I thought about this and I think I think

54:46

For it to be a success

54:49

or a failure. There has to be a goal

54:52

applied So there was

54:54

no goal applied with already. So I think we're fine I

54:58

See, okay. Yeah, I think

55:00

I think we're good And

55:03

then I guess I guess we have a teaser. Here's

55:05

a teaser of what to expect next week. So

55:07

Dan can you Play audio

55:09

from my screen Yes,

55:11

if you want to go I'm there. I'm not

55:14

getting any audio from you. Oh, it's not playing

55:16

yet. Here we go There we go. Yeah Okay,

55:19

hold on hold on hold on. Oh Oh,

55:23

is it not working? Yeah, it's 2002 I

55:25

approached the desk at the rental store with

55:28

a freshly minted copy of the Elder Scrolls

55:30

3 More after

55:32

handing over my change and scurrying

55:34

home. I proceed to play for

55:36

roughly 24 hours straight more Captivated

55:38

by this finely crafted world than

55:40

anything I had seen in my

55:42

entire Half years

55:45

you got me. Yeah. Wait, is

55:47

it it's just audio. Okay. No

55:52

We're starting over. All right. I approached

55:54

the desk at the rental store with

55:56

a freshly minted copy of the Elder

55:58

Scrolls 3 More flawless. After

56:01

handing over my change and scurrying home, I

56:03

proceed to play for roughly 24 hours straight,

56:06

more captivated by this finely crafted

56:08

world than anything I had seen

56:11

in my entire 11

56:13

and a half years of life. Even boobs.

56:15

I woke my dad up the next morning by

56:18

professing my love of this game and begging him

56:20

to buy a real copy of it to replace

56:22

my rental version. To my surprise,

56:24

he agreed. My dad and I would take

56:26

turns playing on a shared save file where

56:29

one of us would read through the player's

56:31

guide and direct the other who would control

56:33

the character. These are some

56:35

of my favorite gaming memories ever. We

56:38

use that player's guide so much it

56:40

barely holds together at this point. The

56:42

cover has been missing for decades. I

56:44

was driven into software development because I

56:46

wanted to work for Bethesda, for Todd

56:48

Howard. I wanted to make things like

56:50

Morrowind, this piece of art that means

56:52

so much to me. To say this

56:54

is my favorite game ever would be

56:56

an understatement. Fast

56:58

forward 21 years to Starfield's release

57:01

and I tried with every fiber of my

57:03

being to find that diamond in the rough

57:05

but it just wasn't fair. Okay,

57:10

I thought that was going to be a shorter clip. But

57:14

essentially I- Wow, that was pretty long. Wow,

57:16

Luke Week apparently takes an entire week. Yeah,

57:18

apparently, yeah. It

57:22

also changes significantly from there but I end

57:24

up talking about how Starfield

57:26

sucked but I'm not going to go through all the

57:28

details as to why because that's

57:32

been done to death already. Here's

57:34

my thoughts on how the gaming industry

57:36

is going, why it's going that way,

57:39

different companies, yada yada yada. Hopefully

57:42

it's interesting. The people that have seen it so far liked it. Like

57:45

previous themed weeks we will be doing some LTT

57:47

store giveaways that you can sign up for on

57:49

Floatplane so if you want to see that content

57:52

and get some potentially free stuff be sure to

57:54

sign up. And if you want to see what

57:56

else Floatplane has, if you're not on Floatplane for

57:58

whatever reason, we're also releasing- using the car

58:00

break-in prank for 48 hours

58:02

on LMG clips and it's

58:05

live now. Did

58:07

they know the show was starting at 1pm? Is

58:10

it actually live now? Dude, we've been driving

58:12

a lot of subscriptions on floatplane

58:14

lately. Yeah, it is live now. It went

58:16

up 35 minutes ago. We're

58:18

back pretty close to cracking 3500. There's

58:22

apparently extras. Oh, 3500. Oh,

58:24

there's the line for the Linus Tries Influencer Drinks

58:26

video now. 35,000,

58:29

sorry. Yeah, I was just bugging

58:31

you. Yeah,

58:34

floatplane's been rocking it lately. Yeah,

58:37

these places have just been posting. Elijah's got an exclusive talking a

58:39

bit more about the humble PC. Oh,

58:41

nice. That went up two days ago. Yeah,

58:44

there's so much. The 90 Days

58:46

Scorpion Share Challenge video is finally up. That went

58:48

up two days ago as well. Oh, was it

58:50

Elijah week? There's like three

58:52

Elijah exclusives in a row. Either that or the

58:55

social team has just figured out that that guy

58:57

is solid meme gold any time you point a

58:59

camera at him. Yeah, I don't

59:01

think it actually was, but I think it

59:03

just became that anyways,

59:05

which is great. But

59:08

yeah, check that out. Hopefully you guys enjoy it. Let

59:10

us know how it goes. Oh,

59:14

LTT Forum Folding Update. Our team

59:16

is once again participating in the

59:18

Boink Pentathlon, which runs from May

59:20

5th to 19th. We

59:22

strongly encourage anyone interested to participate.

59:24

The LTT team placed third overall

59:26

last year, which was easily our

59:28

best so far. Participation

59:31

is typically quite low since Boink is

59:33

a bit more complex than Folding at

59:35

Home, but people are willing to help

59:37

out if you want to learn. So

59:40

check out more information on the forum,

59:42

which is, I mean, there's a URL for

59:44

it. But if you just look up the

59:46

LTT Forum and Boink Pentathlon 2024, a topic

59:48

made by one of

59:52

our very own moderators, Lead Eater, you

59:54

will find it and it'll be good. And

59:57

you can do stuff. We

1:00:06

can do merge messages. Alright, what's our next topic?

1:00:08

Merge messages. Yeah, just do merge messages. Hello

1:00:10

LDL, have you heard about MRAM and

1:00:12

what do you think it will do

1:00:15

for PC and security due

1:00:17

to its ability to retain the data

1:00:19

when powered off? I

1:00:27

haven't actually particularly heard of this, but

1:00:29

retaining the data when powered off could

1:00:32

be potentially kind of bad. There

1:00:35

was tactics in the past where

1:00:37

you would, I don't remember, was

1:00:39

it like liquid nitrogen or

1:00:42

something? But you would cool

1:00:44

RAM down to very, very, very low temperatures

1:00:46

and then swap what system was in and

1:00:48

then you could pull information out of it.

1:00:51

That was a very interesting... You could

1:00:53

pull potentially really bad information like if

1:00:55

there was a, in

1:00:58

some cases plain text

1:01:00

essentially storage of critical

1:01:02

system information or user input. Yeah,

1:01:05

is it super realistic for people to be

1:01:07

able to get into a computer and like

1:01:10

super freeze its RAM and transfer it over to another

1:01:13

computer? I don't know.

1:01:16

But it was a really cool thing and

1:01:18

if that is now able to be done without

1:01:20

the difficulties of cooling and

1:01:22

whatnot, that could be a little

1:01:25

sketch. But yeah. One

1:01:27

sec here. There we go.

1:01:29

Sorry, I didn't have my double tabs.

1:01:32

I was in the middle of responding to another one.

1:01:35

Hi LLD from France. I want to

1:01:37

buy a cap since the first announcement,

1:01:39

but I think the logo is too

1:01:41

big. How do you choose where

1:01:43

to place a logo and have you considered a

1:01:46

free ad version for a higher price? I

1:01:50

mean, we have pretty subtle logos on a lot

1:01:52

of our stuff. I think they just mean branding

1:01:54

free. No, no, no. Free

1:01:57

ads. Like

1:01:59

giant logo. A

1:02:01

higher price? Yeah, maybe they do mean

1:02:03

ad-free. Yeah. I think they mean ad-free.

1:02:05

Yeah. I appreciate them.

1:02:08

Yeah, okay. Sorry. Yeah,

1:02:10

I think they mean sponsorship stuff free

1:02:12

or branding free. I don't

1:02:14

know. I think, honestly, we generally strike

1:02:16

a pretty good balance. Even on the hat,

1:02:18

yeah, the logo is pretty big, but

1:02:21

it's black. It's

1:02:23

black on black. It doesn't stand out a ton. That's

1:02:27

kind of a thing, right, is wearing a brand

1:02:30

on your baseball cap. I

1:02:34

think the start of that

1:02:36

product was actually people not really buying the

1:02:38

dad hats and a lot of the feedback

1:02:40

that we got being that they weren't obviously

1:02:42

LTT enough. I think

1:02:44

this is just one of those things where you're not going to

1:02:46

be able to please everybody. I really like the new hats. It's

1:02:49

possible that if they sell really well, we will

1:02:51

explore that fit in different styles, but for now,

1:02:54

we're really focused on the regular LTT hat and

1:02:56

the LTT hat pro. Yeah,

1:03:00

fair enough. Okay, and last one for

1:03:02

this section. Howdy, guys. Curious

1:03:04

your take on the EPA

1:03:06

regulations causing automakers to make

1:03:08

changes that may negatively impact

1:03:11

reliability, examples being Toyota's new

1:03:13

direction with turbocharged engines. Man,

1:03:20

regulation is one of those things. You can't

1:03:22

really think, you can't live without it. I

1:03:26

don't know the right answers here. Sometimes

1:03:29

it's really obvious. Hey,

1:03:32

you actually cannot discriminate against

1:03:34

your customer. As stupid as

1:03:36

they look, those broadband nutritional

1:03:38

facts things in the

1:03:40

States make a ton of sense given

1:03:42

how predatory that industry has been in the past.

1:03:47

It's obvious that sometimes we end

1:03:49

up with regulation that harming consumers

1:03:51

rather than helping. Man,

1:03:54

I was reading about another car, one that

1:03:57

was to do with all electric targets or

1:03:59

something like that. Was it was

1:04:01

looking pretty ridiculous to to

1:04:03

be clear, i'm I'm, I'm

1:04:05

pro. You know, sustainable energy

1:04:07

or whatever, but just. In.

1:04:10

The signing a law and saying

1:04:12

okay, go innovate, Good luck everybody.

1:04:17

Is Not. Is. Not the move. Via.

1:04:24

The. I don't. we have a lot add

1:04:26

their it just it just sucks like I'm

1:04:28

planned obsolescence as it is a terrible thing

1:04:30

and making things like almost intensely unreliable is

1:04:33

bad but at the same time you don't.

1:04:35

You don't want to stifle a company from

1:04:37

being able to make like a. Bleeding.

1:04:40

Edge version of something Aura or an

1:04:42

ultra high performance version of something that

1:04:44

that just has to lose some of

1:04:46

it's reliability in order to to push

1:04:48

those limits. So. And

1:04:50

are no. I.

1:04:53

Just became aware of a

1:04:55

controversy. Apparently the edit of

1:04:57

our Linus tries influencer foods.

1:04:59

ah pushes pretty aggressively to

1:05:01

the flood plain exclusive where

1:05:03

I try more of them.

1:05:05

Ah, I haven't watched the

1:05:07

video. unfortunately. I do review

1:05:09

every Ltt by don't review

1:05:11

every short circuit. The people

1:05:13

seemed pretty upset. Ah, I'm.

1:05:16

A Basically, you know what? I'm tired of

1:05:18

just taking responsibility for everything I didn't see.

1:05:20

this. So hope

1:05:23

yeah I will. I will message the appropriate

1:05:25

people internally and will try and find a

1:05:27

better balance. Hopefully. We can put

1:05:29

this behind us. Is it that I've

1:05:31

seen it? Have

1:05:33

you actually watch the Not sure. Merit.

1:05:39

Ah this video was a sixty minute ad for

1:05:41

floatplane. I don't know I like again I haven't

1:05:43

watched it but you also that sort of seem

1:05:45

to be my content. Here are

1:05:47

entirely on where you ripped off. I.

1:05:50

Don't. The. Sultan deceiving.

1:05:54

Ah, Or

1:05:56

a while. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll I'll take this

1:05:58

to the people internally who. This call and

1:06:00

our meal will find that the sorted out

1:06:03

but thing as we are up. In.

1:06:05

We're not a big company, but we are a

1:06:07

big enough company that. Believe. It or

1:06:09

not not, everyone knows absolutely everything that's going

1:06:11

on all the time and sometimes you know

1:06:13

we're gonna make a judgment call. It's not

1:06:16

going to be right. I think it's pretty

1:06:18

clear that the community has spoken. they sang

1:06:20

the says this is not right This are

1:06:22

so we'll We'll we'll. We'll. Do

1:06:24

what we can look at. The sex Okay

1:06:26

thanks guys. Ah,

1:06:33

Didn't know. murmurs business. Okay,

1:06:38

Is hop with the rational explanations. I want to

1:06:40

be angry. And

1:06:42

I took out a D S People Talk on

1:06:44

Reddit. No loss of

1:06:46

area to sell my soul if you

1:06:49

die if you got something I got

1:06:51

a sodium deficiency have destroyed their you

1:06:53

get to see if you'll be taken

1:06:55

care of entirely. Nintendo Issues Take downs

1:06:57

over Gary's mod contents: Following community members

1:07:00

noticing that Nintendo related same content was

1:07:02

being removed from Gary's mod, Gary Numan

1:07:04

has confirmed that Cease Punch has received

1:07:06

a take down notice from Nintendo. Quote:

1:07:09

If you want to help us by

1:07:11

deleting your Nintendo related uploads and never

1:07:13

uploading a guest stuff with sofa so.

1:07:15

Forth. Ah,

1:07:19

your vision gary. Or

1:07:21

they're almost twenty years worth of

1:07:23

uploads for Gary's mod workshops, including

1:07:25

sixty five hundred items if you

1:07:27

just search for the word Mario.

1:07:29

While ah, there were rumors that

1:07:31

the notice was fake, potentially caused

1:07:33

by force copyright trolls, but according

1:07:36

to Gary, response has confirmed the

1:07:38

veracity of the notice with Nintendo.

1:07:40

And then there's a speech of

1:07:42

a tweet saying ah, I have

1:07:44

been around and acts or whatever

1:07:46

the heck animals are, I have

1:07:48

been. Assured that the take downs

1:07:50

have been verified by Nintendo as

1:07:52

widgets so this will now continue

1:07:54

as planned sorry And then. I.

1:07:57

Don't even know the a modi said he included. It's

1:08:00

like a bad I bought an hour. And.

1:08:02

I were like a foot or anything

1:08:04

garbage can. Then. A mushroom

1:08:06

so those those ones are like or it sounds good.

1:08:08

Guards can mushroom and then I don't know what the

1:08:11

hell a thing as a Us ah I'm. To.

1:08:13

Be clear, Nintendo is well within their

1:08:15

rights here. This is yeah, intellectual property

1:08:18

in this case the at that The

1:08:20

likeness you know of Mario is absolutely

1:08:22

something that's within their it. Sort of

1:08:25

baffling to me that a gaming company

1:08:27

managed to go twenty years without noticing

1:08:29

Gary's mod. Ah, I'm ill.

1:08:31

maybe that's part of what makes didn't handle

1:08:33

different Said they just why they don't look

1:08:35

at other games they don't have. No.

1:08:38

One who works there has a gaping computers by

1:08:40

test out of know it's easy working for them

1:08:42

for him for them pretty good on. I can

1:08:44

definitely see how this is really frustrating for people

1:08:46

that are like yeah we can. I just thought

1:08:48

this was okay. it had been. Twenty.

1:08:50

Years ah of. Art

1:08:55

Our discussion questions: should there be some kind of

1:08:58

statute of limitations when it comes to brands not

1:09:00

protecting their Ip? I believe there actually are, but

1:09:02

I don't think that that would be covered in

1:09:04

this case, that it would all come down to

1:09:06

the law of the various lands. That

1:09:09

are involves. I think Gary is taking

1:09:11

an extremely bitter approach and the outraged

1:09:13

gamers who are frustrated with Nintendo's action

1:09:16

by all means be frustrated with Nintendo.

1:09:18

They are kind of jerk wad sometimes,

1:09:20

but this is within their rights and

1:09:22

our Gary is right to comply with.

1:09:27

Yeah, right. Speaking of things that

1:09:29

ah, the have to do with,

1:09:32

right? No, it doesn't Her celebrity

1:09:34

with high net Neutrality is back.

1:09:36

Fcc votes to restore Obama era

1:09:39

rules repealed under Trump. Ftc voted

1:09:41

three to two to restore rules

1:09:43

that prevent internet providers from favoring

1:09:45

some sites and apps over others,

1:09:48

reserving high speeds for those willing

1:09:50

to pay more for them or

1:09:52

otherwise interfering with what consumers do

1:09:54

online. Ahead of the vote, Fcc

1:09:57

Chairwoman Jessica. Rosen

1:09:59

worse off. Okay

1:10:01

for the rates are seated. In

1:10:03

our post Pandemic world's we know

1:10:06

that broadband is a necessity, not

1:10:08

a luxury. Opponents claim it will

1:10:10

still innovation and investment in the

1:10:13

bought broadband industries. Supporters argue that

1:10:15

without such regulations, broadband providers are

1:10:17

incentivized to charge customers more to

1:10:20

use internet fast lanes before four

1:10:22

hundred page draft order has not

1:10:24

yet been publicly released. I

1:10:30

will. I will say, I don't

1:10:32

think I heard of a ton

1:10:34

of things happening as a result

1:10:36

of the repeal of these rules,

1:10:38

but I think I'm pretty happy

1:10:40

that they may be coming back

1:10:42

so. Yeah. This

1:10:44

is great, Others a seal. other really important

1:10:46

ones. I wanna make sure that we hit

1:10:49

here like this is. Actually I'm a big

1:10:51

week for news. Ah tic toc As low

1:10:53

as we talked about this of the beginning

1:10:55

congress's the Us Congress has passed a law

1:10:57

getting ticked off tech company Bite Dance until

1:11:00

January of next year to sell the app

1:11:02

or it will be blocked from us app

1:11:04

stores and internet service providers. Is this what

1:11:06

it would take for I phone users. To.

1:11:09

Finally say. Hey.

1:11:11

We need to be able to side load. Is

1:11:14

this what it would take to make

1:11:16

the I phone uncool with Jens ease

1:11:18

and gentle says if you couldn't put

1:11:20

Tic Toc on it because there's no

1:11:22

way to side load an app and

1:11:24

Tic Toc isn't in the app store

1:11:26

or anyone to. This forced divestment was

1:11:28

passed as part of a large foreign

1:11:30

aid package target that Ukraine, Israel, and

1:11:32

Taiwan by Dance has promised to fight

1:11:34

the legislation in court, calling it an

1:11:36

unconstitutional infringement on American uses free Speech

1:11:38

rights. Sources inside the company of told

1:11:40

Reuters that like dense leadership would rather

1:11:43

tic Tacs down. Then sell it. I

1:11:45

honestly think Tennessee that's like this is my ball

1:11:47

I'm going to play with that are gone home

1:11:49

The take it with me. A major reason lawmakers

1:11:51

game for the decision to forced by dance to

1:11:53

divest from tic toc is the lack of a

1:11:55

barrier between the Chinese government and Chinese companies. as

1:11:58

a social security and privacy experts expressed concern,

1:12:00

both that the app could be used to

1:12:02

access sensitive user information and that its algorithm

1:12:04

could be used to manipulate public opinion about

1:12:07

the CCP. I

1:12:09

guess what I'm asking is, why

1:12:11

aren't you forcing Facebook to

1:12:13

sell to, to who even?

1:12:15

I don't know. Or Twitter to

1:12:18

sell to who even? I don't know. Like

1:12:20

if basically your concern in a

1:12:22

nutshell is that there's an entity

1:12:24

controlling this app that you can't

1:12:26

control and that could tune

1:12:29

its algorithm for its own purposes. I

1:12:32

don't know, man. Like I'm not, I'm not exactly pro China.

1:12:36

That entity is specifically another country because

1:12:39

I see where you're going and I do think you're entirely right.

1:12:42

But I think they're like, Ooh, this is,

1:12:44

this is, uh, what

1:12:47

is it foreign foreign national interference or

1:12:49

whatever? I don't know the term

1:12:51

for it, but I think it's something

1:12:54

that they're fighting against. Um,

1:12:57

who do you want to see by it? Is I

1:12:59

discussion question in,

1:13:02

I really, can I say the brackets? Can I say

1:13:04

the brackets? Sure. In

1:13:07

brackets, it says, don't say Elon. I

1:13:12

mean, if you hate tech talk, maybe you will. I was

1:13:15

going to say, I kind of wanted to be. Oh,

1:13:23

man. I just, I

1:13:25

think the part of me that just like loves

1:13:28

to see things burn sometimes just, you

1:13:30

know, why not? It

1:13:32

is entertaining. It's

1:13:34

another thing that I don't like or use. So

1:13:36

like, whatever. I

1:13:39

don't know. Speaking of government,

1:13:41

the state of California would like to

1:13:43

know your location and also your velocity.

1:13:46

California Senator Scott. I'm

1:13:49

sure it's, I'm sure it's

1:13:51

not pronounced quite like that. I love it.

1:13:53

Initially proposed a bill that would

1:13:55

place speed limiters in passenger vehicles

1:13:57

to physically. Oh, no, this was the thing I was talking.

1:14:00

about earlier, okay, yeah, that would prevent them

1:14:02

from going more than 10 miles an hour

1:14:04

over the speed limit starting in 2027. Actually

1:14:07

what? However, this

1:14:09

has recently been revised to just

1:14:12

using visual and audio signals to

1:14:14

alert drivers of their speed. Wieners

1:14:17

also amended the bill to clarify that drivers would

1:14:19

receive one warning each time they go over the

1:14:22

speed threshold rather than a constant warning. This

1:14:25

version of the bill has passed the Senate

1:14:27

Transportation Committee along party lines. The

1:14:29

bill is backed by the National Transportation Safety

1:14:31

Board, which has pushed for speed limiting systems

1:14:33

since 2012, and the

1:14:36

National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has documented

1:14:39

a sharp increase in traffic fatalities nationwide,

1:14:41

including in major Californian cities. It

1:14:43

should be noted that these speed limit warning systems

1:14:46

are not new and are actually set to be

1:14:48

mandatory in all new vehicles in the EU starting

1:14:50

in July. Man, new cars

1:14:53

are going to be on the struggle bus pretty

1:14:55

quick styles here. Yeah. Because

1:15:00

that's what I was sitting here thinking, like it says,

1:15:05

would place speed limiters in passenger vehicles.

1:15:07

They mean just new ones, right?

1:15:10

You don't have to retrofit your car to have a

1:15:12

speed limiter in it. I mean, given that

1:15:16

even seat belts, you don't have to have

1:15:18

them if your vehicle's old enough. I doubt

1:15:20

that we're going to see speed limiters retroactively

1:15:22

coming into cars, but who knows, right? So

1:15:24

in this case, then the used car market

1:15:27

is just going to be so like you're going

1:15:29

to have used cars from other states being shipped

1:15:31

to California because people are going to want to

1:15:34

buy older used cars. Or

1:15:37

I wonder if you could even get just

1:15:39

any new car, but from out of state.

1:15:42

Like our car dealerships along the

1:15:45

outside, but along the Californian border are

1:15:47

going to be like super popular because

1:15:49

you can get non-California law

1:15:52

compliant cars and then

1:15:54

like just, you know, bring

1:15:56

them into California. I don't know. I don't know how

1:15:58

those laws would work. I don't know. American stuff, but

1:16:00

yeah. EK

1:16:04

has given a statement on

1:16:06

the allegations that

1:16:08

they failed to pay suppliers, employees, and

1:16:11

contractors for multiple months. CEO

1:16:13

and founder, Edward Koenig, has released a

1:16:15

statement apologizing, both for the hardship caused

1:16:18

by lack of timely payment and lack

1:16:20

of adequate communication. He took

1:16:22

over as CEO in February and claims to

1:16:24

have already addressed several issues, but acknowledged there

1:16:26

is still a long way to go. You

1:16:28

know what's funny is this is

1:16:31

round two of this. Did you

1:16:33

know that? No. Yeah.

1:16:36

Edward steps down as CEO once, like

1:16:38

10 or 12 years ago. I

1:16:41

can't remember exactly when. EK basically

1:16:43

went to crap and then

1:16:45

he stepped back in and restored it

1:16:47

to its former glory and better. And

1:16:50

then I didn't even know that he was out again,

1:16:52

but it

1:16:54

seems like something about EK for

1:16:56

blocks runs best when Edward

1:16:59

Koenig, Mr. EK, is at

1:17:01

the helm. Koenig

1:17:03

claims that EK is committed to fulfilling

1:17:05

its financial obligations and regaining community trust.

1:17:08

I mean, our discussion question here is a really big one. Why

1:17:11

did it take so long to communicate the new

1:17:13

plan? Like that's something that he doesn't have an

1:17:15

excuse for because if he's been CEO for two

1:17:18

months, that would have been

1:17:20

the time to communicate better. Like

1:17:24

we said in the video that featured a bunch

1:17:26

of EK parts, though, we are hopeful that

1:17:30

they will get themselves out of this

1:17:32

because you know what? I

1:17:34

love the product. It's a great product and

1:17:37

I want to

1:17:39

see them succeed, but obviously that success

1:17:41

can't come at the cost of

1:17:44

their employees and their contractors, right? It can't come

1:17:46

on their backs. Good

1:17:49

luck. Good luck, EK.

1:17:51

Godspeed. Yeah. I

1:17:55

don't really care about that one. Nope,

1:18:02

it's the the Braun Jean tattoo one.

1:18:05

Yeah Okay, where

1:18:07

is this? Just pretty cool. They're naming

1:18:09

conventions for their new chips are really

1:18:11

stupid Yeah Snapdragon

1:18:15

X elite but like with less

1:18:17

clock or less clockers. Yeah,

1:18:19

but the name is but we're What

1:18:23

but we're what is even the difference for this one? What

1:18:25

am I even looking at here? It

1:18:28

just has a different part number Doesn't do

1:18:30

for boost. I think I think there's no

1:18:32

dual core boost wise. Oh That's

1:18:35

right. And then why does why is plus less?

1:18:42

Qualcomm has said that gaming on these

1:18:44

chips will just work with the x-series

1:18:46

of SSEs No porting required and this

1:18:48

was apparently achieved through a Rosetta to

1:18:50

style translation layer It seems they're positioning

1:18:52

these chips to be an alternative to

1:18:54

AMD's mobile radians and mobile risons

1:18:57

and Intel's ultra lineup They've been showing off

1:18:59

their snapback and X elite primarily laptops and

1:19:01

claim it can work with discrete GPUs. Okay,

1:19:03

that's pretty cool So have

1:19:05

having the ability To

1:19:08

like put an Nvidia GPU

1:19:10

on this thing and just use it as a CPU is kind

1:19:12

of it just kind of blows my mind I don't know why

1:19:16

Semi-accurate comm talked with unnamed OEMs that

1:19:18

claim the Qualcomm benchmarks are faked though

1:19:21

up to 50% higher than what the OEMs can

1:19:23

reproduce With the same X-piece chip Qualcomm

1:19:25

has claimed that the weaker X plus can deliver 28

1:19:28

better 28 percent better performance in Cinebench 2024 than

1:19:30

Intel's ultra 7 155

1:19:33

H at the same power consumption and it looks like

1:19:35

there's a few more nodes here But what this is

1:19:37

gonna boil down to is show me

1:19:39

the money Let's see. Let's

1:19:41

see what you guys have actually got going on here

1:19:43

enough enough talk I'm pretty

1:19:45

excited to check these out though. This could

1:19:47

be the the Apple silicon moment for Windows

1:19:49

PCs I wouldn't mind better battery

1:19:51

life. That would be okay Yeah,

1:19:54

we could we could use it who

1:19:56

thought naming four products only two

1:19:58

different names was Cool. I

1:20:02

don't mind the plus that much. I

1:20:05

think the problem that makes it weird is the

1:20:07

Placing that it has in this chart because

1:20:09

elite sounds better than plus so if plus

1:20:11

was just first and then elite came after

1:20:13

It'd be fine Yeah,

1:20:16

exactly. I guess what's just snapdragon

1:20:19

x what yeah Yeah,

1:20:21

but there isn't one of those Three

1:20:25

of them just be called snapdragon x elite

1:20:27

is like definitely the whole problem Ah

1:20:32

well, um Okay,

1:20:34

anything else doo-doo-doo-doo Cybertruck

1:20:37

thing the

1:20:40

high school principal thing I Do

1:20:44

the high school principal thing for the for the people

1:20:46

playing bingo high school Okay,

1:20:50

never mind. Oh, yeah, sure Sure,

1:20:55

I might have to go pretty soon boys you can carry

1:20:57

on a little longer without me, but I am fading extremely

1:20:59

fast Only got one

1:21:01

ring, right? I Didn't

1:21:04

sleep last night at all and I got

1:21:06

on a plane at 8 a.m So

1:21:09

I had to be I'd leave for the airport at 5. So

1:21:11

basically I stayed up working on a paint

1:21:13

job Until about

1:21:15

4 30. I got a little bit of rest

1:21:19

Not sleep just rest while I packed

1:21:22

and then I headed out for

1:21:24

the airport at around 5 30 and then I And

1:21:28

then I ate and then I flew and I got a little

1:21:30

bit of sleep on the plane But I'm dying but you know

1:21:33

what? I don't know whether it's the lack of sleep or whether

1:21:35

it's the paint fumes I'm feeling pretty silly

1:21:37

today, but it was worth it. I just got

1:21:40

I got a message from Alex that

1:21:42

says Honestly

1:21:47

paint job is pretty sick It's

1:21:51

terrible. So I just want to get that out

1:21:53

there right now. It's terrible, but

1:21:56

that's the intention You

1:21:58

guys might remember that in that

1:22:00

we upgraded Pluth's car video. We

1:22:02

alluded to potentially a part two.

1:22:05

Well, what we came up with is that we

1:22:07

were going to do a part two, adding more tech to his

1:22:09

car. So we added Android Auto, we added a backup

1:22:12

camera last time, and we

1:22:14

had teased maybe doing power windows, power

1:22:17

door locks, putting in some

1:22:19

new headlights. But we can't have

1:22:21

everyone internally complaining that we're upgrading Pluth's car

1:22:23

and nobody else's. So there had to be

1:22:25

a catch. And the catch is that

1:22:28

I got to paint his car any color

1:22:31

I wanted. I'm

1:22:35

very excited. Oh, man. Okay,

1:22:39

sorry, Dan, go ahead. Tara, let's

1:22:41

get through some merch measures. We've got

1:22:44

four that curated right now. Hi, DLL,

1:22:46

first time watching live at 42 just

1:22:48

found out that I'm expecting my first

1:22:50

child. While you had your family young.

1:22:53

Do you have any advice for someone having their

1:22:55

first in their 40s? Oh,

1:22:58

man. Well, having not tried it yet.

1:23:01

It's not Cromwood. I

1:23:06

don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:23:09

Or not ideally. I

1:23:11

know. Having not tried it. I mean, I

1:23:16

would say the biggest thing that

1:23:18

has kept me more

1:23:20

aligned with my kids is being into

1:23:22

tech actually. Like I introduced

1:23:24

my kids to Discord, which they use

1:23:26

to socialize with their friends. Don't

1:23:29

let your kids you know, move on to

1:23:31

Instagram or move on to that move on

1:23:33

to the platform, and then follow them around

1:23:35

because that makes you not cool

1:23:38

and everything about it not cool. But if you

1:23:40

just kind of are staying with it a little

1:23:42

bit, and you have some idea what's going on,

1:23:45

don't underestimate the importance of knowing what the

1:23:47

heck they're talking about. And

1:23:49

yeah, some of it's going to be kind of stupid. My kids like

1:23:52

stupid movies and stupid videos and stupid

1:23:54

games. They talk, man, my kids just

1:23:56

got into Fortnite. Anyway, the

1:23:59

point is. You're not always gonna

1:24:01

enjoy it, but think of it

1:24:03

as work. Little man has such

1:24:05

good taste in games forever. I

1:24:08

know. Ah! My

1:24:11

soul. Okay. That's fine. You

1:24:14

know what? I

1:24:17

haven't shown him Warcraft 3 yet,

1:24:19

and I think that's gonna capture his attention.

1:24:22

So I'm gonna step up my plan. He

1:24:24

is an RTS gamer. He

1:24:26

totally is. Oh. That's

1:24:28

a good sign. He's amazing for RTS. Yeah. Yep.

1:24:32

He's got the brain for it. He loves Anno. Yeah. Loves

1:24:35

Supreme Commander. So yeah, I'm gonna... We haven't played

1:24:37

the Warcraft 3 campaign. That's...

1:24:40

It's a good one. It's a really good one. All

1:24:42

right. What have we got, Dan? Get

1:24:45

him on Factorio. Maybe not yet, but I'm sure

1:24:47

he'll like that. He won't go to school anymore.

1:24:50

I'd like to see it once in a while.

1:24:53

Yeah. Yeah. He's

1:24:55

probably a bit better with sleep strategy than you. Sorry.

1:24:59

Hi, DLL. How

1:25:03

have you managed to keep a good

1:25:05

level of structure and tidiness in your

1:25:07

test or lab places with a growing

1:25:09

team working for a company that struggles

1:25:11

establishing good practices while growing? I

1:25:15

think we struggle with that too. Same.

1:25:19

Yeah. But yeah. Hi, DLL. You're

1:25:23

gonna continue. Sorry. Yeah. Do

1:25:26

we? No. Hi,

1:25:29

DLL. I started as a job as the... No

1:25:31

way. We... Okay, hold on. Hold

1:25:33

on. We deserve a little bit more credit

1:25:35

than that. We started by having

1:25:37

a pretty big space for them, so they were able

1:25:39

to spread things out a little bit. They

1:25:42

actually do a pretty darn good job of assigning

1:25:45

a place for everything. We

1:25:48

don't always have everything in its place, but overall,

1:25:50

we have a place for everything, so it keeps

1:25:52

things from getting too messy. And

1:25:55

we're trying not to rush them. And they've had

1:25:57

a forward-thinking plan the whole time. There

1:26:00

was like essentially models

1:26:02

of where they were going to put things

1:26:04

from like the very beginning. Yeah.

1:26:08

Okay. Go ahead, Dan. Right.

1:26:12

Oh, one moment. Hi,

1:26:14

DLL. I started a job as the IT

1:26:16

guy for a company. Not much before it

1:26:18

was documented. I want

1:26:20

to document all the processes, but

1:26:22

would doing that make me replaceable?

1:26:24

How can I make myself indispensable?

1:26:28

Have good ideas like documenting all your processes

1:26:30

and execute it and totally kick butt at

1:26:32

it and then have a new good idea

1:26:34

and then do that and then all of

1:26:36

a sudden not only will you not be

1:26:38

replaceable, you'll be indispensable. There,

1:26:41

I had a point this way. The

1:26:45

importance of initiative and making

1:26:48

the company work better regardless of whether

1:26:50

it's directly on your quarterly KPIs. The

1:26:52

importance can't be overstated. Yeah.

1:26:56

And like if people are really paying attention and

1:26:58

you're just not documenting things as an IT person,

1:27:01

you will be very suddenly extremely

1:27:03

replaceable. Yeah. So

1:27:07

and as somebody who was irreplaceable

1:27:09

for about seven years, you

1:27:12

want to be replaceable. I

1:27:14

took four days off in those seven years. Yeah. I

1:27:17

need to take a Friday off when I'm here. Yeah, but

1:27:20

we got to take the context

1:27:22

here. The context was they are

1:27:25

making themselves replaceable

1:27:28

by making their job function really, really, really

1:27:30

smooth. So it was a

1:27:32

very different thing that I was talking about. Constant innovation is

1:27:34

not the same thing as being the only guy who knows

1:27:37

how to do it and so you just get called in

1:27:39

the middle of the night by the owner or whatever. And

1:27:42

he did technically end it with or whoever this

1:27:44

was, did technically

1:27:46

end it with how can I make

1:27:49

myself indispensable. So I think Linus's

1:27:51

answer was like pretty good. Yeah.

1:27:53

You want to be indispensable and yeah,

1:27:55

exactly. Yeah. tuning

1:28:00

L.D. caught a merch message in a March

1:28:03

wan about screen time for kids and

1:28:05

that Linus put out a lot of

1:28:07

good info. Curious Linus, what is

1:28:09

the standard bedtime in your house for the kids?

1:28:13

Oh man, you gotta understand, I got three kids. We

1:28:16

were all over that stuff, like,

1:28:18

you know, bedtime routine, we brushed

1:28:20

all the kids teeth by hand

1:28:22

ourselves and like always

1:28:24

did stories and it was always kind of the same

1:28:27

time. These days it's like, I don't

1:28:29

know, are you tired? I'm tired, okay. Kids,

1:28:31

go to bed. You

1:28:35

eventually kind of relax on that stuff. Generally

1:28:38

speaking, one of my kids

1:28:40

is a total night owl, my eldest daughter, so

1:28:42

I can put her to bed at 8.30 and

1:28:45

she'll still be awake in her bed just lying there staring

1:28:47

at the ceiling at 10.30 anyway, so what's the point? So

1:28:51

I'll send her to bed if she's like cranky and obviously

1:28:53

needs to sleep, but other than that, she kind of

1:28:57

sleeps when she's tired and then the

1:28:59

youngest one, we try to get her in bed at

1:29:01

8.30 and screen time does

1:29:03

end once bedtime starts. However,

1:29:06

I mean, my problem as a kid was never screens when

1:29:08

I was supposed to be sleeping. It was always books and

1:29:10

we do let our kids read in bed, so sometimes

1:29:13

they're tired and they're hard to wake up in the morning,

1:29:15

but honestly, if I can raise a

1:29:17

house of readers, I consider a little bit of lost

1:29:19

sleep to be acceptable collateral damage.

1:29:23

Okay, the last of the curators I've got

1:29:25

for you here with how bad the car

1:29:27

industry is getting, what do you think of

1:29:29

a reality involving an open source car? I

1:29:32

know we both believe the vast majority will

1:29:34

not own their own cars in the future.

1:29:38

Don't those exist? Kit cars? Aren't

1:29:41

there kit cars that are effectively open source? So

1:29:45

much of making a car is not the

1:29:47

car. So much of it is

1:29:49

the infrastructure to produce the car. Look

1:29:51

how many car companies there are that can make one

1:29:53

car or a dozen cars. The

1:29:56

problem is that the overhead involved in designing

1:29:58

and building a car and setting up for

1:30:00

manufacture means that you have to make thousands and

1:30:02

thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of cars

1:30:04

or it doesn't make any financial sense. I

1:30:07

don't think that the traditional model of car

1:30:09

manufacture is going anywhere anytime soon. But

1:30:13

who knows? Hey, framework raised another what? Like

1:30:15

$16 million? Maybe that's their next big expansion?

1:30:19

Probably not. I actually, oh, I had meant

1:30:21

to kind of speculate on that, but I think I actually

1:30:23

just need to go and lie down for a little bit

1:30:25

before this event. I'm supposed to attend. Yeah,

1:30:27

do it. Go here. Maybe next week. Why

1:30:29

don't next week? Why don't

1:30:31

we play a guessing game and see what

1:30:34

frameworks next investment cycle is going to

1:30:36

go into? Number one was framework 13.

1:30:38

Number two was framework 16. Number

1:30:40

three is something and they're saying it's going to be

1:30:42

quite different. Yeah, not a laptop.

1:30:46

Investment disclosure. Yeah. Yeah.

1:30:49

All right. I think it's not a laptop. I need

1:30:51

to go. Okay,

1:30:54

bye. Thanks for tuning in. See you again

1:30:56

next week. Same bad times, same bad channel. I

1:31:00

can't say my thing because I'm not leaving, but

1:31:02

bye Linus. Okay.

1:31:05

Yeah, high school principal almost framed

1:31:07

for fake racist rant using AI.

1:31:10

A clip was posted to a

1:31:12

popular Instagram account with the voice

1:31:14

of Baltimore County Pikesville High School's

1:31:17

principal making racist remarks targeting teachers,

1:31:19

students, and parents by name. These

1:31:22

included one threat to drag the

1:31:24

school's athletic directors. Wow. We're

1:31:28

not going to

1:31:30

say that, but it was bad

1:31:33

and the clip is still up apparently.

1:31:37

It was convincing enough that it began to

1:31:39

spread immediately. Emily

1:31:41

Y says, if you don't want to hear it, there

1:31:43

are a couple of points where it sounds off

1:31:46

and it's easy to gloss over them because the

1:31:48

rest sounds so natural. Yeah,

1:31:50

that's rough. This

1:31:53

stuff is getting crazy. But

1:31:56

faculty and the community believed the clip.

1:32:00

Really and this led

1:32:02

to the principal being temporarily removed and an

1:32:04

investigation launched the investigation revealed that it was

1:32:06

in fact a fake Made by the schools

1:32:09

made by the school's athletic director What

1:32:12

a twist? Good

1:32:15

I love this story. It's terrifying.

1:32:17

That's wild. So the athletic director

1:32:20

Made an AI clip of the principal Very

1:32:24

negatively calling out the the

1:32:26

athletic director That's

1:32:31

rough The

1:32:34

investigation revealed that yeah The

1:32:36

smoking gun was that he had used

1:32:38

the school Computers and his school email

1:32:41

to sign up for the AI voice

1:32:43

imitation service and distribute the fake recordings

1:32:48

Okay forensic and analysis points to

1:32:50

a service like 11 labs which

1:32:52

can synthesize voices with just a

1:32:54

few minutes of audio Only

1:32:56

the principal's union leader suggested that the clip

1:32:59

may be a deep fake one

1:33:01

person How

1:33:05

can we be sure of anything we see or

1:33:07

hear anymore is there any coming back from this

1:33:10

in my opinion Not

1:33:12

really to be completely honest We're

1:33:17

in like post truth or whatever I'm

1:33:22

not getting in the chair. This is Luke. So you could

1:33:26

I'm not getting in the chair. This is Luke. This is

1:33:28

Luke. This is Luke. This is Luke. This is Luke. This

1:33:30

is Luke. That was a I don't want

1:33:32

to I don't care That's

1:33:34

like a is that okay? I feel

1:33:37

bad about that. Why do you feel bad about it?

1:33:39

I don't know cuz it's your your in line this is show. I'm

1:33:41

just here to do merch message Yeah, but we used to have guests

1:33:43

on the show all the time. I Think

1:33:46

Elijah was even like hey, can I join and I

1:33:48

was like, I mean if James says it Okay, but

1:33:50

I also don't know how long we're doing this show

1:33:53

for yeah, it'll be a little while longer. I guess

1:33:56

Little bit. Yeah, I Think you have

1:33:58

some other topics. The

1:34:01

cyber trunk may be bulletproof. But.

1:34:03

It's not waterproof. You can stand.

1:34:06

Here. Cause dad. Was.

1:34:09

Switching can't wait. I can't do it. Oh.

1:34:14

I. Don't know. How to do

1:34:17

vary? The I'd honestly normally do

1:34:19

camera sourcing. Supposed

1:34:24

to. See

1:34:26

us! That is like arrived on this remote

1:34:28

into it. It's fine if we find. Bugs

1:34:36

Bunny. Ah, there we go. The cyberattack

1:34:38

may be bulletproof, but it's not waterproof

1:34:40

car wash woes. Turns out that the

1:34:42

bullet resistant trucks is not able to

1:34:45

handle a bit of water. The terms

1:34:47

and conditions of the cybersex say that

1:34:49

if you fail to put it into

1:34:51

car wash mode, your new eighty thousand

1:34:54

to her track can be rendered a

1:34:56

paperweight ticked off user of. Top.

1:35:00

To and caption. Cash. And add.

1:35:03

Went to. Went.

1:35:05

To the beach with his dogs and and

1:35:07

he didn't even pressure was it but rinse

1:35:09

it out A result the bed with a

1:35:11

hose and now his infotainment screen is completely

1:35:13

non from smoke. Whoa.

1:35:16

This includes the trucks pedometer, all

1:35:18

the. Odds

1:35:20

are urging information and rear camera

1:35:22

which is necessary to back up

1:35:24

the vehicle because the back windows

1:35:27

otherwise too narrow and often obscured

1:35:29

by the trucks bedcovers. Several other

1:35:31

users have reported problems with corrosion,

1:35:33

in part because stainless steel is

1:35:35

not rustproof, merely ross resistance. Ah,

1:35:37

all the cyberattacks are apparently recall.

1:35:40

Every cyberattack has been recalled due to

1:35:42

a fault with the accelerator pedal. Recall

1:35:44

here means that has of will be

1:35:46

replacing the faulty parts not and like

1:35:48

slip off right? Yeah I think at

1:35:50

least part of it was that often

1:35:52

gets stuff and it stuck in that

1:35:54

it forces he salute or down there

1:35:56

is there the break overrides because they're

1:35:58

all digital. A break over the accelerator

1:36:00

cools off you would press the break.

1:36:03

It wouldn't matter, the accelerator was down to

1:36:05

see would just break. I mean, how long would

1:36:07

it take you to realize. That. Your

1:36:09

own we aren't pushing down and how? And are

1:36:11

you actually going on that because you don't know

1:36:14

that? That would override. it can really put it

1:36:16

into neutral and he can't. Old. Turn.

1:36:18

The engine on a lot of a tricks

1:36:20

you do in a gas car knock in

1:36:23

a worse right into a while and a

1:36:25

trick that you wouldn't really necessarily do any

1:36:27

gas cards does work so it's like I

1:36:29

am I their terrifying not not good he

1:36:31

is more have club. Too.

1:36:34

Any yeah, Oh

1:36:37

yeah here we go his that he

1:36:39

tells this of the it is possible

1:36:41

for the accelerator pedal to slide up

1:36:43

while flooring it, lodging the pedal cover

1:36:45

against some trim and causing the penalty

1:36:48

get stuck all the way down of

1:36:50

at seems like a problem was caused

1:36:52

by an unapproved chains and yet and

1:36:54

we've experienced one of those a school

1:36:56

backpack organic backyard of attacks were serious

1:36:58

cause my an unapproved seems to the

1:37:00

assembly of the petals and introduced a

1:37:03

lubricant some soap to. Help the cover

1:37:05

slide on, but I guess that stayed

1:37:07

there are. The recall also revealed that

1:37:09

Tesla has only delivered thirty one hundred

1:37:11

and seventy eight cyber trucks. And

1:37:15

samosas a cyber truck cos it's like a hell of

1:37:18

a lot of money isn't it? Juicing

1:37:20

The brakes are physical. still. Ah,

1:37:22

I'm said non fly by wire break but

1:37:25

the i don't think they figure that out

1:37:27

perfectly at the accelerator accelerators and in my

1:37:29

car has as a fly by wire accelerator

1:37:31

as year and a lotta automatics will have

1:37:33

the automatic cotton blip and things like that

1:37:35

right? I

1:37:38

mean, why would they. Be.

1:37:40

Like a hundred thousand dollar truck or something like

1:37:43

that flagship products and think so far they just

1:37:45

like gluing on are slipping over a cover. Why

1:37:47

isn't it. Like mailed.

1:37:49

aluminum or you know there's a screw

1:37:52

in it i could one screw right

1:37:54

at the bottom one singles in our

1:37:56

this is just one right there and

1:37:58

that when But come

1:38:00

on I was I didn't have

1:38:03

to do like I

1:38:05

don't want to deal with the recall yet But I need to

1:38:07

drive my truck a little bit What

1:38:09

is my fix just take off some of those

1:38:12

were pretty funny? Yeah, you just take the cover

1:38:14

off you can screw it on yourself You can

1:38:16

do there's like somebody like screw just right through

1:38:18

it. Yeah, what's it gonna hurt

1:38:20

the resale value? It's been in the air for

1:38:22

like a week. It's already rusted You've

1:38:25

had to clean it six. You're not gonna get your

1:38:27

money back on like the rags and the cleaning fluid

1:38:29

for yeah Yeah, yeah, I don't

1:38:31

know. Yeah, I can't I can't

1:38:34

get a Tesla's website to play nice right

1:38:36

now It's

1:38:38

just forcing me to select the language. Yeah.

1:38:40

What if I actually just pick one? Okay

1:38:42

now it's working. That's weird Rivet

1:38:47

that's a good idea. Joe. Uh One

1:38:50

rivet, do you know the price of rivets like

1:38:52

practically nothing? I think they're like four dollars a

1:38:55

ton Or

1:38:57

actually, what about that microwave welding thing

1:39:00

where you just like Squoosh

1:39:02

it and then oh, yeah. Yeah, like

1:39:04

I think even the stream deck is

1:39:06

made with that stream deck can do

1:39:08

it Why can't Tesla? I Bet

1:39:11

that they make a good car pedal.

1:39:13

I don't know. I wonder I wonder how good

1:39:15

it was before they did the soap thing Because

1:39:18

it was an unapproved change that they're blaming

1:39:20

on but there wasn't a fastener. Yeah, I'm

1:39:22

not sure maybe it like clipped on I

1:39:25

mean you got a pretty strong interference fit

1:39:27

with like rubbers or metals or things like

1:39:29

that But

1:39:31

why would it need soap? Like

1:39:34

are they putting on by hand? Yeah,

1:39:37

I'm not sure what the manufacturing process was but

1:39:39

it was a lubricant to put it on yeah,

1:39:41

you would normally well Why isn't that lubricant glue?

1:39:44

I Glue

1:39:47

it's let me superglue nice

1:39:49

nice smooth stuff just Yeah,

1:39:52

there. I'm bloody hell Obviously

1:39:55

they would buy it in higher quantities with bigger discounts,

1:39:57

but a 50 Pack of rivets

1:39:59

from Home Depot. Nine bucks

1:40:01

Canadians stainless steel, I

1:40:03

think so. Because. Along with

1:40:05

a bill to avoid the build a

1:40:07

wash your pedal after attacking. America.

1:40:10

Careful don't watch it with too much water. Might

1:40:12

sort out your old trust. For

1:40:15

this before it or watch mode for his

1:40:17

I was I was promised utopia. I

1:40:20

don't like current year. I don't think I have for a while.

1:40:24

Make good things. Don't.

1:40:26

Make bad things. I've

1:40:28

lived as we had a discussion question to even

1:40:30

talk about it. What kind of process results in

1:40:33

a truck that isn't even weatherproof? Yeah.

1:40:37

I don't know. man. Cm, Ego

1:40:40

is an ego, is it? I'm

1:40:43

happy with like What? Tesla?

1:40:46

Did by existing. Just.

1:40:49

Like get more interesting ease

1:40:51

and I'm. Paid.

1:40:54

Like the seen it. I mean it to

1:40:56

me on paper. Stance.

1:40:59

Your car cool. Delorean.

1:41:02

Yeah. You. Queen it with gasoline.

1:41:05

That's the best way to clean the

1:41:07

Delorean is gasoline seconds Murtha? Yeah it

1:41:10

going. Stainless steel really good. Which

1:41:14

I think is hilarious as we

1:41:16

don't do that anymore and is

1:41:18

an electric Cars. And

1:41:20

gases like what? Three four dollars

1:41:22

a gallon? Now nearly three dollars

1:41:25

a leader? Hear about two pound

1:41:27

of leader And the America that

1:41:29

is over on the other side

1:41:31

of the pond like I don't

1:41:33

know, is crazy. Apparently

1:41:36

this is. I

1:41:38

don't have those. Doesn't seem like a natural

1:41:40

official video a a white diesel and make

1:41:42

sense but. whose

1:41:45

their six i thought this was a do it

1:41:47

yourself version of the six because i've seen

1:41:49

as v i didn't think this was tesla sexy

1:41:51

i mean just literally that so they i

1:41:53

think this was the so when i saw though

1:41:55

the one those claiming this is a d

1:41:57

i y six to say not to say Okay,

1:42:00

I don't know but this looks like just

1:42:02

like a 3d printed block that ensures that

1:42:04

you line it up properly and then I

1:42:07

think they're drilling a hole and then just

1:42:09

riveting the hole. I think is the whole

1:42:11

thing. We'll see here in a moment So

1:42:15

come back. We're drilling a hole in it. Wait

1:42:17

for it Wait

1:42:20

for it. There we go. There

1:42:23

it is Looks

1:42:26

like a rivet to me I'm

1:42:29

not a fan of remits. They're not serviceable. Yeah

1:42:33

Yeah, me too Gonna

1:42:36

have to drill that out right to repair. I Mean

1:42:39

you could drill it out though. Yeah Robert

1:42:43

in there An

1:42:46

open future is on the horizon get it

1:42:48

because that's the name of the operating system

1:42:51

Meta is opening its quest

1:42:53

VR headset software now called

1:42:55

horizon OS to third-party devices

1:42:57

meta has already included

1:43:01

three official partners planning to planning

1:43:04

on creating horizon OS based headsets including

1:43:06

a gaming focused device from a soos

1:43:08

a Learning focused device from

1:43:11

Lenovo and a limited edition meta

1:43:13

quest in collaboration with Xbox Meta

1:43:15

apparently wants its OS to become

1:43:18

the Android of virtual reality a

1:43:20

major benefit for users is the ability

1:43:22

to bring profile information across devices and

1:43:25

device manufacturers and cross-device

1:43:27

compatible programs and games Adam

1:43:30

thinks a major downside for users is the

1:43:32

ability for meta to track even more of

1:43:35

you Which is I'm

1:43:37

sure 100% of the reason why they

1:43:39

want to do this. Yeah, that seems

1:43:41

like the reason anybody does anything these

1:43:43

days Oh, we released this new

1:43:45

pair of software. It's open and free We

1:43:49

get all the information Discussion

1:43:51

question would a default platform shared

1:43:54

between various headsets be a boon

1:43:56

to VR Do we trust Zuckerberg

1:43:58

to be the man with the plan? What's

1:44:01

in it for Mark after the mediocre

1:44:03

launch of the Vision Pro is meta

1:44:05

feeling bullish or bearish on the VR

1:44:07

market as a whole? What about you?

1:44:10

A lot of questions actually. That is a lot

1:44:12

of questions. I'm a computer tethered guy. Yeah.

1:44:15

My headset's a screen. One

1:44:18

of the reasons I switched to the index over the I

1:44:21

still call it the CV1 because I was

1:44:23

a DK1 boy. Been there from

1:44:26

the start. Yeah. Get in there for the dev stuff.

1:44:28

Me too. Is because the

1:44:30

Lighthouse system is a little bit more open

1:44:32

to third-party trackers and like tracking and things

1:44:34

like that then maybe a closed system or

1:44:37

even inside out right? But

1:44:39

I mean I would like to see the software

1:44:43

at least being a little more open. I

1:44:46

don't even see why the headsets

1:44:48

couldn't just be like tethered headsets

1:44:51

but you would attach a computer

1:44:53

module to the headset so you

1:44:55

kind of have like headset driving

1:44:57

companies and then maybe also headset

1:44:59

display companies. Like the

1:45:01

index had a plug on the top and I could just

1:45:03

pop a Oculus Android

1:45:06

phone. Yeah so it's really turning into

1:45:08

like computer and monitor. Yeah. Instead

1:45:10

of all in one device. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:45:12

like the idea of like someone putting a

1:45:14

sticker on their headset that's like my other

1:45:16

my other VR headset is a computer monitor.

1:45:19

Yeah. Yeah. I mean that makes sense. A

1:45:21

lot of the good stuff. Yeah.

1:45:24

I think the

1:45:26

shared between I think I think they're bearish right

1:45:28

and I think I think

1:45:32

a lot of people maybe have been moving

1:45:34

away from games because developing games for VR

1:45:36

is really hard. It's a very

1:45:38

limited platform. You don't really have too much that

1:45:40

you can do in the

1:45:42

space and then productivity.

1:45:45

Like is that better? You

1:45:48

know I've got this here. My head is

1:45:50

unencumbered apart from some headphones and I do

1:45:52

know people all of the people

1:45:54

that I know that kept their Apple Vision

1:45:56

Pros and especially

1:45:58

the people that I know that are happy with them are

1:46:01

people that travel a lot and work

1:46:03

while they travel. I

1:46:06

think that's reasonable. And travel

1:46:08

might even be, you know. It's a

1:46:10

very expensive productivity tool. What

1:46:13

are your productivity gains versus the

1:46:17

amount that you've spent on it? Like

1:46:19

are you making X amount of dollars

1:46:22

more than you would or is it

1:46:24

for fun or is it for writing like, I

1:46:28

don't know. I think there's got to be a little bit of

1:46:31

tech passion involved. I

1:46:35

think if you've got the tech

1:46:37

passion and you can excuse it

1:46:39

as like a productivity for work

1:46:41

slash business expense, I think those

1:46:43

people... However you want to sell it to yourself, I guess. I

1:46:46

can certainly see that. I think if I had the

1:46:49

disposable income and needed that use case, then, you know,

1:46:51

maybe I would buy it. I still haven't gotten

1:46:53

to try it. It seems to have disappeared.

1:46:56

But I don't know.

1:46:58

Just spatial computing is a concept.

1:47:00

I'm not sure.

1:47:03

It's an interesting one. Avery

1:47:05

Studio says, are they using it while in the middle

1:47:07

of traveling? Yeah, totally. Yeah, you can use it on

1:47:09

a plane, right? On a plane,

1:47:11

passenger seat, in a car, something like that. On a

1:47:13

plane, on a train, yeah. In an automobile, yeah. People

1:47:16

are definitely using them. I think it's a

1:47:19

lot less common than obviously when it first

1:47:21

came out. Maybe it's

1:47:23

kind of settled into it's like 600 or

1:47:25

hardcore users who are actually

1:47:27

going to get some use out of it.

1:47:30

Yeah. Maybe getting it and seeing that

1:47:32

it's a toy unless you actually really want to

1:47:34

use it. Like a super powerful computer is a

1:47:38

good toy. A $4,000, $5,000 computer

1:47:40

to play games on. Very

1:47:45

expensive toy, right? Yes, yeah. As a

1:47:47

productivity tool, also

1:47:49

pretty expensive. It could be

1:47:51

reasonably productive on a laptop,

1:47:54

but it's better to be productive on

1:47:56

a desktop. So maybe that's the

1:47:59

kind of comparison. There's also some privacy

1:48:01

benefits. Absolutely. If you're on a

1:48:03

plane and you're not

1:48:05

in like first class because you didn't feel like

1:48:08

remorgaging your house to fly somewhere. You

1:48:10

could have bought two Vision Pros. Yeah,

1:48:12

exactly. Then other people

1:48:14

might be able to see your screen and depending on what

1:48:17

you're working on, that might actually not be okay. You might

1:48:19

want to protect your slash fiction. Yeah,

1:48:22

all that sort of stuff. Totally. Nobody

1:48:24

wants to see your weird Harry Potter stuff. I

1:48:26

gotta buy a Vision Pro. You

1:48:29

know, that kind of thing. Yeah, if it

1:48:31

helps the productivity of that, then

1:48:36

yeah, why not? How

1:48:39

about a bike? I don't know, man.

1:48:41

I don't think you can take those on planes. I

1:48:45

think they meant using it while you're on

1:48:47

a bike. I think maybe if

1:48:49

it's a tandem bike and you're in the back, you

1:48:51

could make it work. I think, what is it, 12

1:48:54

milliseconds of delay? Something like

1:48:56

that. I'm sure you could find a way

1:48:58

to bike around with it. Maybe once the

1:49:00

FOV gets better. I'm waiting for glasses. For

1:49:03

me, super high quality AR glasses.

1:49:05

We're not there yet, but yeah. That's

1:49:08

where I'm okay with like, all

1:49:10

right, now I'm gonna consider

1:49:12

glasses being a productivity tool, right? My

1:49:14

biggest thing right now is it's

1:49:17

something that's gonna go on your face. So

1:49:20

if you want wide market adoption, it

1:49:22

needs to not be really

1:49:25

ugly. I think

1:49:27

for me, I like the

1:49:29

solidarity, the

1:49:31

solidity of physical

1:49:34

objects, right? When

1:49:36

I'm being productive or I'm working on stuff,

1:49:38

the last thing I wanna be separating

1:49:41

my brain into is

1:49:43

the management of my environment,

1:49:45

right? So I'm working on

1:49:47

things and then suddenly, there's a window here, but

1:49:49

I need it over here or something

1:49:51

like that. With a mouse, it's really easy

1:49:54

to just boop. But

1:49:56

now kind of I'm dealing with floating windows and they have

1:49:58

to be in 3D space. I have to manipulate

1:50:00

them and now I'm trying

1:50:02

to conceptualize where my productivity

1:50:05

is going. Maybe

1:50:07

you would get used to that. It's

1:50:10

very new. I

1:50:12

can do that on a computer. Maybe less experienced users

1:50:14

struggle with that, right? I have no idea if this

1:50:16

is a thing or not, so I might be talking

1:50:18

about a thing that already exists. But

1:50:21

something that you might like is if

1:50:23

someone made an app where you could

1:50:25

set up a workspace and you could have

1:50:27

multiple workspaces. And then the things within that workspace

1:50:29

are contained to that plane. You

1:50:32

know what I haven't seen yet, which would

1:50:34

be amazing for Inside Out and the Oculus

1:50:36

and even the Vision Pro stuff like that,

1:50:38

is just fiducial markers. This

1:50:41

is where my computer monitor is. You

1:50:44

just put a little QR code fiducial marker thing

1:50:47

on the desk and now it

1:50:49

is there. Or you put it

1:50:51

on a coaster. You get a

1:50:53

coaster like this. AR

1:50:55

things are already a thing. We've already

1:50:57

got the AR amiibo

1:51:00

things as well. Computer

1:51:02

monitor right there. And then it's

1:51:04

just there. You want to move it a bit. You

1:51:07

just interact with a physical object, right? Not everything has

1:51:09

to be digital. That would be kind of neat. Yeah.

1:51:11

And you could still, you could represent it in virtual

1:51:13

reality with something that looks a little bit better

1:51:16

with just like a command orb or something near

1:51:18

that area so you know where to reach to

1:51:20

grab it even if it's projecting a larger. Oh,

1:51:22

if you were in full dive. Yeah. Right?

1:51:26

But if you were doing some AR stuff, then yeah. You could

1:51:28

just see the coaster. I mean that kind of works already with

1:51:30

the index and individual trackers and

1:51:32

things like that. They are represented so I

1:51:34

don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.

1:51:36

Pokeball marker. Yeah, I like that.

1:51:39

Use whatever you want. Yeah. Pokeball

1:51:41

marker? I don't know. Mystical said

1:51:43

that. I don't. Sure.

1:51:46

Sure. I mean you could change it to whatever you want. Yeah.

1:51:48

Should we do some merge messages? Oh

1:51:51

yeah, that's a thing that I was supposed to be doing. You

1:51:54

can do from here. I know, but I was

1:51:56

supposed to be doing that while I was here.

1:51:58

Oh, whatever. It's fine. I think we

1:52:00

have only incoming. Yeah, cuz I didn't do any of

1:52:03

them cuz it's nobody over the anonymous said ooh You

1:52:07

can archive those No,

1:52:10

I will show it the whole

1:52:12

stream has to be Message

1:52:16

coming up at the bottom it will happen

1:52:18

in queue God

1:52:20

this is what I have to do with all day

1:52:22

the float plane shot is currently spamming ooh And

1:52:30

so much power now, this is awesome Disembodied

1:52:33

head of Linus. Do you have

1:52:35

any recommendations for podcasts? Well,

1:52:37

he's gone So I guess we

1:52:39

can take this one over No,

1:52:42

it was to all of us I just read the

1:52:45

disembodied out of Linus. Oh took me by surprise more

1:52:47

interesting Yes, they could get you listen to podcast. No,

1:52:49

I don't I know a lot

1:52:51

of people that do and I was attempting

1:52:53

to work on one for a while with a

1:52:55

with a friend well it

1:52:59

was like a book

1:53:01

reading more than anything Little

1:53:03

slash fiction novels. I think they were

1:53:05

like their father vintage bodice rippers from

1:53:08

the 1950s Well,

1:53:10

it all been kind of lost to time very

1:53:13

very interesting kind of Like

1:53:16

fiction slant like the the birth

1:53:18

of fan fiction. Oh, yeah Super

1:53:21

underground kind of thing and crazy got a

1:53:23

lot of them that are very rare so

1:53:26

that was kind of Extreme

1:53:28

amounts of work like an

1:53:30

unbelievable quantity of work Otherwise

1:53:34

no, there's some CBC ones. Yeah,

1:53:36

really good. Yep. I've heard of that. I

1:53:39

don't listen to many For

1:53:42

a while there When

1:53:44

I first started trying to do weight

1:53:46

loss stuff my like knees

1:53:48

a lot of things were super messed up So the the

1:53:50

best thing for me to do was to just like go

1:53:52

walk for like an hour and a half basically every day

1:53:56

So I Was listening to a lot of podcasts at that time, but

1:53:58

that was. A.

1:54:01

Little bit over a year ago at this point,

1:54:04

And. The Parker said i mean lined

1:54:06

at that time was the yard and human

1:54:08

Lab podcast. human lab was like a lot

1:54:11

of cool interesting information trying to be more

1:54:13

healthy. there's a lot information for that in

1:54:15

that part as to that was cool and

1:54:17

the yard it was just. It's.

1:54:20

Just like hang out with the boroughs.

1:54:23

So. It was a more casual yeah, think

1:54:25

you've talked about that before when they're doing

1:54:27

some of the set redesign of stuff like

1:54:30

that. Oh, there's set for the yard is

1:54:32

incredibly I would never really watched it because.

1:54:35

I don't know if I'm the emphasis like I

1:54:38

don't really watch Tv shows or movies at home

1:54:40

either. If I'm like sitting at home and I

1:54:42

need a recreational activity I'm going to play games

1:54:44

as I would never really like watch their their

1:54:46

podcast. But if I'm going out on a walk

1:54:48

it's one thing that was nice as I think

1:54:50

they're process is usually around an hour and a

1:54:52

half long. so is a good like Okay, I'll

1:54:55

start it when I start walking and when it

1:54:57

ends that's when I'll and therefore I'm not like

1:54:59

checking the time all the times when the who

1:55:01

can Five minutes left as like know Isis? Move

1:55:04

the puck, Essence just keep going. Keep moving. Until

1:55:06

then. I think for

1:55:08

me like I don't like. It's

1:55:10

taken me a long time to get you

1:55:12

so listening to things again in my free

1:55:14

time cause I was working from home a lot

1:55:17

and of course when I used to do

1:55:19

for work right I can't really listen to

1:55:21

music or listen to podcasts. on doing Ceo

1:55:23

editing that on were like. Working.

1:55:25

On podcasts are music.

1:55:28

So I now I just silence like I go

1:55:30

to the dinner with you. I don't have any

1:55:32

headphones and on have the music. I don't take

1:55:34

an M P three player with nail, go on

1:55:36

walks and stuff like that just wasn't a nothing

1:55:38

like. That Nasa's people

1:55:40

up sometimes. Yeah. I'm not that weird guy

1:55:42

at the gym is just night. Raw. Dog Unit

1:55:44

sister. Listening.

1:55:47

To nothing enjoying it. I can

1:55:49

be totally down with the Nothing

1:55:52

but. If.

1:55:54

I wanna do something really high effort in

1:55:56

in the gym. I like having music because.

1:56:01

It zones me in. That's what I'll

1:56:03

do at work. So it

1:56:05

helps me get into those extremely

1:56:07

deep flow states. Yes. I

1:56:10

don't think I necessarily have gotten into that point

1:56:12

at the gym. Maybe

1:56:14

eventually. Maybe. I

1:56:17

don't know. It helps me shut off everything else

1:56:19

and just really pour into the one thing that

1:56:21

I'm trying to do. Helps

1:56:23

me hit failure levels, stuff like that. Similar

1:56:28

problem. I can't really

1:56:30

listen to a podcast and do anything relatively

1:56:34

heavy. So

1:56:36

unless I'm walking or

1:56:38

driving then it's not really

1:56:40

super relevant. My commute to work isn't super long so

1:56:42

it would take me like days

1:56:44

to get through a single podcast which I'm

1:56:46

not super interested in. Sometimes CBC on the

1:56:49

radio has them. I like listening

1:56:51

to CBC on the way in mostly because it

1:56:53

doesn't have advertisements but sometimes music. They

1:56:56

have a podcast playlist which is one

1:56:58

of their segments where they recommend really good ones. One

1:57:01

thing I will say is with the

1:57:03

death of Google Podcasts I recently

1:57:05

was doing something that I was

1:57:08

very boring and monotonous and I needed a podcast

1:57:10

to listen to. So I tried to pull up

1:57:12

some podcasts that I just spoke about, Human Lab

1:57:14

and The Ark. I don't know. I know these.

1:57:17

And I tried to do it through YouTube Music. What

1:57:20

a horrible experience. I

1:57:22

really wish Google Podcasts was still

1:57:24

around. YouTube Music is not an

1:57:27

appropriate replacement for Google Podcasts in

1:57:30

my opinion. There's a

1:57:32

lot of difficulty with it. My understanding is that you

1:57:34

could really use anything you want because it's on

1:57:36

the back of RSS. So when we

1:57:38

upload to our platform it

1:57:41

goes everywhere all at once. Which whoever decided it

1:57:43

was going to work that way, great

1:57:47

job. Fantastic. No

1:57:49

notes. Like genuinely. And

1:57:52

how ownership is handled. Because

1:57:55

We've had to transfer them a few times. We used to

1:57:57

be on Spotify. Now We're on a new thing called Megaphone.

1:58:00

Which allows us to manage all four or

1:58:02

five of them at the same time, which

1:58:04

still goes to Spotify and Apple on there

1:58:06

and everywhere on yeah like that and they're

1:58:08

all post automatically. I learned that because when

1:58:10

I was experimenting with have i guess work.

1:58:13

I. Just I uploaded the Joe Rogan podcast

1:58:15

to I Tunes. And

1:58:18

I just had control over. it's. just.

1:58:21

Because. It's just an

1:58:23

Rss thing and you just go

1:58:25

like published broadcast and then the

1:58:27

entire catalogue gets pulled automatically. Whoa,

1:58:29

It's really interesting am. Very.

1:58:32

Strange. Now I understand

1:58:34

why: merge messages and divert summer.

1:58:37

Yeah yeah yeah accents you experiencing it's own

1:58:39

even know is he i know what was

1:58:41

the route question even know any good punk

1:58:43

right? And yeah oh he didn't go that

1:58:45

far off I guess. To. So

1:58:48

little bit agis seats.

1:58:52

Are. There any plans for altitude to

1:58:54

release, a bit set case for storing

1:58:56

all the bits in Iwerks and perhaps

1:58:58

spots for screwdriver, stubby precision and shaft

1:59:01

extension. All of that sort of stuff

1:59:03

on my understanding is in the works

1:59:05

currently. I think there

1:59:08

are some. Ideas. To may

1:59:10

be released in three d Prince or something like

1:59:12

that. She could do it yourself on we're still

1:59:14

working through that. I know Linus gave away one

1:59:16

of the bit said string the we. Ah,

1:59:19

That the stream. Ah,

1:59:21

the whatnot stream and I've seen some

1:59:23

other markets as well. A bunch of

1:59:25

people me their own. Death. Yeah,

1:59:27

that's cool and I think they have like three

1:59:29

files out for it. Yeah and. I

1:59:31

think that we're also trying and trying to set

1:59:33

up like am. A

1:59:36

government with platform as but we're trying to

1:59:38

set of a repository where we can dump

1:59:40

all the treaty Prince sprint cars If I

1:59:42

now I make a lot. A lot of

1:59:44

people here make a lot of internal soldier

1:59:46

mean oh okay sorry I was talking about

1:59:49

ah three Prince made by committee members. Know

1:59:51

I think they should still control those

1:59:54

and. You know, But.

1:59:56

i'm sorry we're talking about completely different things

1:59:58

yeah yeah yeah So I'm talking about both

2:00:01

at the same time. So we have ones

2:00:03

that we've done and also people

2:00:06

in the community have made them and you can either

2:00:08

download theirs or ours or design your own. But are

2:00:10

ours available at all yet? I have no idea. I

2:00:12

don't believe so. I don't think so. There's still two

2:00:14

influx. We're planning on maybe doing that at some point

2:00:16

but right now you can find community ones and download

2:00:18

them and print them now. I think ours is just

2:00:20

going to be for bits but I don't know. I'm

2:00:22

sure Nick Light will message me and I will ignore

2:00:24

that but that's fine. Any

2:00:27

updates with full-time not working on Amazon Firestick?

2:00:30

No. I

2:00:33

didn't know whatever did. Do you have something better?

2:00:37

Yeah. Sorry. We

2:00:40

were talking about Tizen TV the other day

2:00:42

and the Vimeo player not being able to

2:00:44

like Google Cast or Apple Cast or Cast

2:00:46

or something like that. I

2:00:48

don't know. Video sucks. What's

2:00:51

wrong with you? Why would you do this?

2:00:53

I don't... Like on purpose.

2:00:55

Yeah. Yeah.

2:00:57

Flowplane... Yeah, the freshness. One

2:01:01

of my main jobs these days is trying

2:01:03

to fight any amount of expansion to Flowplane

2:01:05

Scope because it's like my goodness we do

2:01:07

so many things already. I got

2:01:09

signed out of all my accounts and I have to log in again. I'm

2:01:13

actually not... Yeah, Jaden is saying in flowplane.com it's

2:01:16

a mobile app not a TV app. Yeah.

2:01:19

Yeah. Yeah. Fair

2:01:22

enough. Hello.

2:01:29

When are the new backpack

2:01:31

carabiner coming out? I

2:01:33

have no idea. Soon. Just

2:01:36

say soon to everything. Soon TM.

2:01:38

There you go. Yeah. I

2:01:40

know they're working on it. I think they like seeded some of

2:01:43

them out or something. And

2:01:45

they're waiting for feedback. Maybe that's not even

2:01:47

sort of true. I have no idea. Wrong

2:01:49

person to ask unfortunately. You

2:01:52

might be able to hit up create a round rise.

2:01:55

It's connected now. We're live again.

2:02:00

Uhhhhh... Uhhhhh...

2:02:09

Uhhhhh... Hello?

2:02:12

No, I'm not seeing anything. But people are

2:02:14

saying we back. We

2:02:16

back! Can

2:02:20

I get some uwu's in the chat? Stop!

2:02:23

Hahahaha Got

2:02:28

him. Hey everyone's spamming uwu. Let's

2:02:31

go. Lioness leaves for one minute.

2:02:33

Hahahaha My

2:02:36

gosh! It's alive! Oh

2:02:40

my goodness. See you later TikTok. You're no

2:02:42

longer the favorite. Get out of

2:02:44

here. At least I got RGB now. Yeah,

2:02:48

so people watching on other

2:02:50

platforms, the dot WAN

2:02:53

dot show on TikTok is apparently

2:02:55

where we're streaming WAN show

2:02:58

in the future and that was the only

2:03:00

platform... Hahahaha We're

2:03:20

back again? What's

2:03:22

happening?! This

2:03:34

is why I'm supposed to stay behind the

2:03:36

desk. This is your fault. Okay, okay. Are

2:03:38

we gone again? Maybe? I'm

2:03:42

still showing. If chat can hear me,

2:03:44

when we're live and it's working, you

2:03:46

gotta spam uwu. And

2:03:48

when it dies, you gotta spam fwu. I want all of the

2:03:50

chats on all the platforms to go as fast as possible. When

2:03:53

I'm at my computer, I'm normally at ping 8 8 8 8.

2:03:55

Right? Ping 8 8 8 8 T. This

2:03:59

is my key. Keep Alive is

2:04:01

now Ooo-woo. Ooo-woo. This

2:04:03

is Mechanical Turk for DNS pings.

2:04:10

It's kind of working. It is working. We're getting

2:04:13

Ooo-woo. I have very effective status checks in all

2:04:15

of the chats that I could feed. Real time.

2:04:17

It's a lot faster than ping. All of the

2:04:19

chats I can see are just Ooo-woos right now.

2:04:21

And it's global. Which means we're

2:04:23

working. Yeah, exactly. It's a

2:04:25

way to communicate with all of the places

2:04:27

that we're streaming. Well, my heart rate's up.

2:04:29

I'm enjoying this. There

2:04:32

was one of the sponsor spots earlier. I

2:04:35

started cracking up because it was

2:04:37

like a cronus. I'm

2:04:40

going to give you guys another shout out, I guess. It

2:04:42

says, according to a study by Cyber Security Ventures, a cyber

2:04:44

attack took place every 39 seconds last year. Trust

2:04:47

me, being hacked is not fun. I

2:04:49

was like, it's kind of fun. This

2:04:53

is not a suggestion. Please don't do it. Certainly

2:04:56

had fun, yeah. But we had a wonderful time. As

2:05:00

long as there's no permanent damage, it

2:05:02

can be an exciting experience. Yeah,

2:05:04

we were talking about that and that rise

2:05:07

to action that happens only immediately. Did

2:05:09

I ever tell you the story about the car that

2:05:12

was set on fire outside of my house? No, but

2:05:14

everyone's still spamming Ooo-woos, so I know we're still good,

2:05:16

so please tell me. Nice. I

2:05:19

mean, when we got hacked, both of us immediately

2:05:21

jumped into action. And it was kind of like,

2:05:24

oh, okay, go. And

2:05:26

almost like detrimentally kind of activated,

2:05:28

I guess. But,

2:05:31

you know, I'd met a couple friends

2:05:33

at university, and I was driving them back

2:05:35

to my place for the first time, kind

2:05:37

of like, you know, new budding friendships and

2:05:39

like, all right, we're going to come hang

2:05:41

out. And as I'm pulling like up

2:05:43

my street and into my driveway, there's kind

2:05:46

of like a fire down at the end of the road,

2:05:49

which is weird, like a big fire in the

2:05:51

street. It's kind of down over a

2:05:53

hill. And So I didn't even

2:05:55

think, like I just stopped the car and got

2:05:58

out and then just ran down the street. Or.

2:06:00

Even say anything to likes it. Or

2:06:03

not I was like casual friends will be

2:06:05

a school and this is like the first

2:06:07

experience are going to go hang out with

2:06:09

them and uses the fire. he does leave.

2:06:13

I started sprinting down the street and I

2:06:15

get over the top of his hill and

2:06:17

like okay so it's a par set on

2:06:20

fire and ice prince up to witnesses. poor

2:06:22

woman there who is obviously a freaking out

2:06:24

and I just basically is because I understand

2:06:26

and the bystander effect. People. Just.

2:06:29

Freeze. And would you supposed to do? Is you

2:06:31

supposed to tell people what to do? And for me

2:06:33

it was like. Call. Nine One One.

2:06:36

On. But like. She

2:06:38

was on the phone. And. I just

2:06:40

get like pointing and yelling at her.

2:06:43

ah. How are you talking

2:06:45

to Nine one one are like are you talking

2:06:47

to the police or something like that. And so

2:06:49

this this guy. It was night so this guy

2:06:51

just comes soon running down though the hill. And

2:06:55

starts get hit or your the Are

2:06:57

you going to believe. That

2:06:59

are. So

2:07:04

I'm pretty sure that she might have been free devils.

2:07:08

Are the only way. This car

2:07:10

was not hers. Ah, it had

2:07:12

most likely been dumped there and

2:07:14

abandoned and set on fire. After

2:07:18

like a murder. So.

2:07:20

Not only that is someone screams

2:07:22

down her street, dumps, a car

2:07:24

sets and on fire and then

2:07:27

I like a few minutes later

2:07:29

this and random stranger. And

2:07:31

hurtling down the street anyway? Yes, as. it

2:07:35

may be don't scream at people who

2:07:37

are in a crisis who have already

2:07:39

done the thing that they need to

2:07:41

maybe not the greatest idea but i

2:07:44

will bring attention to that my entire

2:07:46

screen is just various chat spamming move

2:07:48

mighty do this if it was so

2:07:50

i'm enjoying very thoroughly usually i i

2:07:52

don't like people to spam sat super

2:07:54

hard know but right now while we're

2:07:56

still trying to figure out like what

2:07:58

even just happened it is kind of

2:08:00

useful to have like very up-to-date

2:08:02

real-time information based on if people

2:08:05

are receiving the stream or not.

2:08:07

For me, my favorite is the

2:08:09

iEmoji, just the single iEmoji, WO,

2:08:12

I'll post that and Chat will disappear immediately. I

2:08:15

really like, okay, Floatplane Chat is now drawing

2:08:17

Uwu with ASCII art, so

2:08:20

they're evolving. They

2:08:26

need help. What do I do, a Linus laptop?

2:08:28

Is that how that works? There you go. That

2:08:30

one. That's my favorite. Oh,

2:08:33

that's pretty good. Horrifying. That is,

2:08:35

yeah, that's like Eldritch Uwu. Stairs

2:08:38

into your soul. That

2:08:42

would make me feel better. Okay, so what were we talking

2:08:44

about? We were talking about... We had just got into UE4.

2:08:46

UE5.4. 5.4, yeah. 5.4,

2:08:48

yeah. So one

2:08:51

of the things that I learned recently

2:08:54

is that doing vectorized text in game

2:08:56

engines is extremely difficult,

2:08:59

which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And

2:09:03

so vectors in general are really complicated

2:09:05

to actually do in a game engine.

2:09:08

And I was kind of racking my

2:09:10

brain around how I'm going to

2:09:12

be doing some... Sorry, YouTube Chat

2:09:14

has adopted your Uwu and they're

2:09:16

doing the iEmoji. Oh, I gotta

2:09:18

see that. Rare

2:09:21

win for YouTube Chat. Taking

2:09:25

all of the Chats is particularly enjoyable. I gotta get these

2:09:28

open. This is sick. I

2:09:30

will not give you $250. Yeah, please.

2:09:33

Yeah, no. It says the stream's

2:09:35

finished. Like, is it? No,

2:09:37

there we go. Yeah. Don't

2:09:39

scare me like that. Yeah, thanks, YouTube Chat. That's

2:09:41

horrible. I hate this. Oh, there's target eyes one.

2:09:43

Oh, the target eyes one is good. Yeah.

2:09:47

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. With the lips. Oh,

2:09:50

boy. Okay, sorry. Continue. I

2:09:53

don't know. This is also good. This

2:09:58

is literally my screen right now. This is all

2:10:00

the chat. Do

2:10:02

you want to show it up? Sure, yeah.

2:10:05

You don't have anything for... What

2:10:07

is that? That's

2:10:10

the log. Did I go to them? No,

2:10:12

that's what we can see. Okay, okay. I

2:10:15

was like, I'm like, hide it. No,

2:10:18

that's my command window. That's my external thing

2:10:20

to make sure that no frames are dropping.

2:10:22

Oh, cool. Okay. Oh,

2:10:25

my God. Anyway, so Unreal Engine 5.4 has

2:10:27

officially come out. It's been in preview for

2:10:29

a little while now. And

2:10:32

they have all of these new systems.

2:10:34

They've got this motion combining

2:10:36

for animations, this state-based thing

2:10:38

that's really, really robust

2:10:41

and simple to use. They've got a

2:10:43

whole bunch of new animation tools. But

2:10:45

the coolest thing is the motion graphics

2:10:47

design stuff. I don't know if you've

2:10:49

seen any of this. No, I just

2:10:51

saw that it was happening. Actually, bonkers.

2:10:54

I was like, oh, I've got it all flustered.

2:10:56

It was incredible. So

2:10:59

basically, you've got Niagara particle

2:11:02

simulations. You've got

2:11:04

the new Lumen engine,

2:11:07

right? So you can have unlimited polygons

2:11:10

and then real-time particle simulations,

2:11:12

real-time physical simulations, laser scans.

2:11:15

And now they've introduced vector

2:11:17

graphics as well as Boolean operations,

2:11:20

layers like in Photoshop. They have

2:11:22

a new texture designer like Substance

2:11:24

3D, Substance Material Editor,

2:11:26

that sort of thing. You can now do

2:11:28

that entirely in Unreal Engine.

2:11:31

And it's all real-time. So

2:11:33

if you're doing 3D modeling or motion graphics or stuff

2:11:35

like that, normally you do Cinema 4D or Blender or

2:11:38

something like that. But

2:11:41

now you can do that in real-time with

2:11:44

real-time lighting. And it's also all

2:11:46

programmable because it's still a

2:11:49

game engine, right? So you can use

2:11:51

blueprints and do your vector animations and

2:11:53

everything like that. So basically, this is

2:11:55

incredible for so many things. It's good

2:11:57

for me. I was going to say, what are you going to

2:11:59

use? it for. So I

2:12:03

wanted to use it for an intro video

2:12:05

as well as having some scalable UI elements.

2:12:09

One thing that I was

2:12:12

finding that were particularly difficult

2:12:14

inside Unreal Engine was being able

2:12:16

to adapt to different screen sizes. Okay,

2:12:19

so hopefully chat relax. At this point,

2:12:21

you guys are taking the spamming more

2:12:23

seriously than the Ubu. You

2:12:25

guys got to chill. I think some of you

2:12:28

even have bots running or auto clickers or some

2:12:30

or auto input things or something. Relax,

2:12:32

relax a little bit. At this point, I literally

2:12:34

can't even read it because it's going so fast.

2:12:36

You're going faster than YouTube chat. Significantly,

2:12:40

yeah. Chill, dude.

2:12:43

Chill. It's getting faster. You're not

2:12:45

helping. Maybe not. Okay,

2:12:47

I will stop addressing

2:12:49

it. Maybe it will

2:12:51

go away. Anyways, yeah, so you

2:12:53

want to use it for an intro video? Yeah,

2:12:56

so you

2:13:00

ever seen HAL 9000, 2001 Space, obviously,

2:13:02

that sort of thing? A lot of

2:13:04

those computer graphics that

2:13:07

were on the screens themselves physically

2:13:09

are very much like blank color plus

2:13:11

lines and they're all beautiful grids and

2:13:14

they look futuristic and it's all blocky

2:13:16

text, right? And that kind of theme

2:13:18

was also repeated in Alien and Aliens

2:13:20

and not sort of like 80s

2:13:23

level kind of CRT technology but a

2:13:25

vision of the future. And a lot

2:13:27

of it is extremely thin single

2:13:30

lines. And if I want to have this

2:13:33

be adaptable to different screen sizes, one

2:13:36

thing that I hate is

2:13:38

playing on my 4K C2 OLED and then

2:13:40

the textures are all

2:13:43

like squishy because

2:13:45

they're small. Now you can do that

2:13:47

with vectors which means unlimited

2:13:52

scaling. And then they've also introduced

2:13:54

real time Boolean operations. So you

2:13:56

can push objects into other objects

2:13:58

and you can also animate

2:14:02

like graphics over time. Define your push

2:14:04

objects into other objects. Boolean

2:14:06

operations would be like here's your cylinder

2:14:08

and then I want

2:14:11

to make a cut in this cylinder

2:14:13

so I have an invisible card and

2:14:15

then I push them together. So I

2:14:17

haven't altered this geometry. Traditionally Boolean

2:14:19

would be done in something like blender so

2:14:22

you would have to cut a hole

2:14:24

in the geometry. Because it's like add

2:14:26

and subtract. So if I take these

2:14:28

two objects and this one's a subtract, it would cut

2:14:31

into this or if I were to

2:14:33

have this as an additive object, it would be in

2:14:35

one place and it would still be one object but

2:14:37

it's made up of multiple objects

2:14:40

and the geometry becomes one

2:14:42

single entity. And

2:14:45

normally you would do that operation in something like

2:14:47

blender or traditional and

2:14:49

then you would you would like

2:14:51

finalize it so that object would

2:14:53

become solid and then you'd have to retop out the whole thing

2:14:56

right because all of those curves and things are going to

2:14:58

be destroyed. Now you can do that in real time so

2:15:00

I could animate the movement of objects through it and

2:15:03

then huge

2:15:05

thing most of my game is entirely made

2:15:07

of instances right. It's got like one cube

2:15:09

and then everything's instance so it's performative. You

2:15:12

can instance in the motion thing

2:15:16

and then simulate real-time nanite

2:15:18

particles on your objects and

2:15:21

with lumen as well say

2:15:23

the example I saw the other day was a donut.

2:15:27

They had like a billion. Donuts are surprisingly

2:15:29

common. Yeah yeah so obviously a cool

2:15:31

example but they had like a billion

2:15:33

donuts being rendered

2:15:35

in real time with shadows and

2:15:39

also real-time physics so every

2:15:44

single version is

2:15:47

incredible and this

2:15:50

one for me personally has a lot of

2:15:52

features that I'm going to touch a

2:15:54

lot of complaints with Unreal Engine for

2:15:56

a long time is that you're basically

2:15:58

modifying like you're making a mod for a first-person

2:16:00

shooter rather than making your own game. Right?

2:16:05

It's hard to do a different genre.

2:16:08

And it's slowly getting better. And

2:16:10

I think it's slowly becoming just

2:16:12

the most insane engine. Oh, yeah.

2:16:14

Obviously, it's like character-driven focused with

2:16:17

the animation tools. But I think we're also going to see a

2:16:19

lot more animators coming

2:16:21

out of this, too. Right? The

2:16:26

way that you can do rigging and animation things, and

2:16:28

they've automated a lot of the process, and they've also

2:16:30

made it a little bit more intuitive

2:16:32

to do and simple. For

2:16:34

me, learning 3D modeling is

2:16:36

almost impossible for characters, especially

2:16:38

because I just can't get past

2:16:40

weight painting. I don't know how to

2:16:43

make a good rig. And then

2:16:45

if you want to make changes to that rig,

2:16:47

you would have to take it out of Unreal,

2:16:49

right? And you'd have to re-export it and get

2:16:51

your objects back and then re-trigger everything. And maybe

2:16:53

your animations in Unreal were all broken. But

2:16:58

now it's a little bit more self-contained. I suspect

2:17:00

people might, especially people that have been in the

2:17:02

scene for a while, because when you start looking

2:17:04

into game development, there's a lot of use

2:17:06

this variety of tools

2:17:09

to accomplish your end goal, right? Yeah. It's

2:17:11

a very common engine. I

2:17:14

think people might underestimate how much needing

2:17:19

one thing will lower the barrier of

2:17:21

entry for people. This is going to

2:17:23

lower the barrier of entry for me, who

2:17:26

is already over the initial hump. I

2:17:28

know basically how all these programs

2:17:30

work and which ones I'm supposed to be using.

2:17:32

I'm still just garbage at them all. But

2:17:36

now that efficacy

2:17:38

of getting to a level, the

2:17:41

barriers for Blender are

2:17:43

like, OK, well, welcome to Blender. Learn 400

2:17:46

shortcuts, please. And then, of course, they

2:17:48

released 3.8. And I had to relearn

2:17:50

all of them, or whatever the version is,

2:17:52

that they changed it. And I had just

2:17:54

learned them all. And

2:17:56

that's me, because I'm a beginner, right? I think there's

2:17:59

also even just like. The

2:18:01

question of what game engine should I

2:18:03

use is already difficult enough for people to... What

2:18:05

game do you want to make? Yeah. I

2:18:07

don't know. Well then, I don't know, what do

2:18:09

you play? Yeah. I don't know, I

2:18:11

like lots of stuff. Well maybe I want to make... Why are

2:18:14

you making a game? What

2:18:16

is... Like after that kind of

2:18:19

lens of questioning is like, okay, well why?

2:18:23

Because you think it's fun or cool? I

2:18:25

think a lot of people, especially in like high school,

2:18:27

might be doing it just

2:18:29

to try something to learn

2:18:31

something, whatever. Yeah. But

2:18:34

you pick one. Learn all three at the same time.

2:18:36

But then, so you have decision paralysis on the

2:18:38

game engine, but then you also have decision paralysis

2:18:40

on all the things that are associated. It gets

2:18:42

worse. Yeah. And it does

2:18:44

not get better. And then, what everybody forgets about is audio. Yeah.

2:18:48

So now do you go with Fmod or... Well,

2:18:51

why? Pick one. Fmod

2:18:54

is... So Fmod is

2:18:56

like an audio plug-in for all

2:18:58

of these engines. And then

2:19:00

the direct competitor is Wwise. Wwise. Wwise,

2:19:03

I don't know actually how it's supposed to be

2:19:05

pronounced, unfortunately. I like Wwise. I like Wwise. It

2:19:08

goes along with... But

2:19:11

I know that Wwise is more

2:19:14

industry focused and Fmod is way

2:19:16

more approachable. Okay. Yeah.

2:19:18

It's like, okay, well, yeah, you could do

2:19:20

the audio inside your engine, but

2:19:23

it's better to have another tool that modifies

2:19:25

that. But now you're learning that. Like

2:19:27

it took me a while to understand that.

2:19:29

I even had to change my mindset when

2:19:32

doing OST work because now, like Celeste is

2:19:34

probably the best example that uses Fmod. I

2:19:36

think I've told you this before. I think

2:19:39

this is accurate, but Celeste has every single

2:19:41

piece of music playing simultaneously about the entire

2:19:43

game. And then it just

2:19:45

dynamically picks between them and fades between them when it's appropriate,

2:19:47

right? Okay. Okay.

2:19:50

And now I have to program that. So

2:19:53

not only are you working inside

2:19:56

Unity or your game engine, now

2:19:59

you have to have the conceptual kind of understanding

2:20:01

of this thing is happening,

2:20:04

what process and what

2:20:06

variable do I write that the game

2:20:09

is going to modify that is then referred

2:20:11

back to my audio system

2:20:13

that then gets modified there. And

2:20:16

there's two different layers of there, right? You have like

2:20:18

on or off, or you can have floating

2:20:21

point stuff. But then the

2:20:23

graphs that modify the sound are

2:20:26

inside Fmod are different. And

2:20:29

then you can also have global variables

2:20:31

inside Fmod to manage a bunch

2:20:33

of stuff. And

2:20:35

then there's bus tracks and reverb and

2:20:37

now I'm working with Steam Audio, which

2:20:40

is like a ray tracing system for

2:20:42

like real time projections. And then like...

2:20:47

I just wanted to make it RTS. I

2:20:52

want my 10 years back. So which one

2:20:54

do you... You said there's one that's more

2:20:56

industry focused and one that's more approachable. Which

2:20:59

one are you using for your non-hobby project?

2:21:01

I would use Fmod for both. Mostly

2:21:04

just because I kind of like Fmod. And that's the

2:21:07

more approachable one already? I think so. I

2:21:09

think actually for my personal project I will just try...

2:21:14

I think it's probably a good opportunity to learn

2:21:16

it. And if

2:21:18

it doesn't work, stick back to Fmod. I

2:21:22

learned Substance Painter. Substance

2:21:24

Painter is a lot easier to get

2:21:26

your head around after you understand how it works. It's

2:21:29

not like Photoshop. It

2:21:31

does it for you. But you have to kind of

2:21:34

make it do it for you. And

2:21:36

your personal project one, you said it's a 3D

2:21:39

game? It is a 3D game. Which one of the

2:21:41

reasons why I went with Unreal. I

2:21:44

did try to remake it in Go.Gado. But

2:21:48

do you know which one it is? I believe it's Go. I

2:21:51

hear people that... I like saying Go. Work

2:21:53

in it semi-professionally. I actually... Say it both

2:21:55

ways. I'm not sure. I

2:21:57

mean it might be like a bunch of different pronunciations.

2:22:00

Yeah, yeah, anyway, sorry, but yeah 3d 3d engine

2:22:05

But it's quite static the

2:22:07

problem is that there's a lot of rotations and there's a lot

2:22:09

of vector math and there's a lot of Automatic

2:22:12

generations and objects and

2:22:14

it can be a little bit complicated especially

2:22:16

trying to keep it performative Well,

2:22:19

and yeah, sorry. Sorry everyone just

2:22:21

noticed the dead pixel where? Is

2:22:24

a dead pixel? You

2:22:30

Crap I

2:22:33

think people have been spamming about it. Oh, no, we

2:22:36

look Yeah,

2:22:43

yeah Yeah,

2:22:51

I I

2:22:54

Mean these cameras are getting on a bit Luckily

2:22:58

at least people only noticed it now

2:23:00

so it's not gonna drive them nuts

2:23:02

for the whole stream That

2:23:07

one looks okay. Yeah, I think you're good. Oh No,

2:23:11

I Can't

2:23:15

even point it though. You know far I see

2:23:17

it too. Does my hand get

2:23:19

in this screen? Yeah up there. Yeah, okay

2:23:23

Well, all right So

2:23:26

it's not every camera but two

2:23:28

of them Whatever

2:23:42

Someone threw these at us, that's

2:23:45

cool You Get

2:23:50

out of here sponsorship What

2:23:55

cube 3d, what did that just happen? Okay,

2:23:57

don't think of it. Yes So

2:24:00

why did you decide to go with,

2:24:02

because you, blueprints. I like

2:24:04

Unreal because of blueprints. Okay. So

2:24:07

blueprints are phenomenal for a really approachable

2:24:09

way of getting programming done.

2:24:11

It's maybe, it's not quite as performative

2:24:13

as programming in C++. Obviously

2:24:17

there's some overhead, but they're

2:24:20

good. And you can also use

2:24:22

them to move into C++ because

2:24:24

you can write blueprints and each

2:24:26

little node is basically just a

2:24:28

C++ object. So you can dive

2:24:31

into them and write a custom blueprint

2:24:33

node. Yeah. So that's

2:24:35

a good answer and a good point. And I do

2:24:37

also think blueprints are cool. But what I really meant

2:24:39

was why did you decide to do 3D

2:24:41

for this game? Because the way that you've described it could be. It

2:24:43

needs to be. So why? Because

2:24:47

of the way that the space is represented. So

2:24:51

I wanted it to feel

2:24:53

claustrophobic. Oh, okay. And

2:24:58

the limiting space factor also

2:25:00

had to be in 3D. So you've

2:25:03

seen the Windows 95 screensaver with

2:25:05

the pipes, right? Yes. Love

2:25:09

it. Always loved it. But

2:25:12

as a game. Yeah. Like a

2:25:14

resource management? It's a resource management game. So you're

2:25:16

inside a cube. And

2:25:18

each of the walls are kind of like your factories

2:25:21

or whatever you want to think about it, however you

2:25:23

want to abstract it away. This one makes this number

2:25:25

go up. This one makes a different number go up.

2:25:27

And each of them have different requirements. And

2:25:30

you have to connect them together with theirs, basically.

2:25:32

Like pipes, right? And so if

2:25:34

you can think about laying

2:25:37

pipes in 3D to each

2:25:39

of the walls. And

2:25:42

I think there's something like 400 individual node

2:25:45

points that are available for

2:25:48

me to use, at least. Maybe not to

2:25:50

the players. That's a little bit ridiculous. And now we've got

2:25:52

400 nodes, 400 nodes, 400 nodes. And

2:25:56

now all of the wires have to connect to each other. Like

2:25:58

the difficulty is in... managing those connections

2:26:00

and figuring out where they go and

2:26:04

Like even just how to route them and how to

2:26:06

keep them organized I don't know if

2:26:09

you've ever played factory or something like that, but keeping the

2:26:11

belts all pretty and Like flowing

2:26:13

and organized is kind of like a fun

2:26:15

way to to play factory or you can

2:26:17

do spaghetti and

2:26:20

the resource in this game is The

2:26:25

walls Yeah, so

2:26:28

like the amount of space you have on

2:26:30

the walls, right? Yeah, and then yeah, I

2:26:32

guess you're like tech up over time and

2:26:34

whatnot. Yes, exactly But to replace something you

2:26:36

have to destroy it Which

2:26:39

might at least temporarily ruin

2:26:41

economy I'm assuming it's

2:26:43

actually like you're yourself. Oh

2:26:46

like So you die?

2:26:48

Oh Cuz

2:26:50

you're the computer that the outside

2:26:52

walls are powering and so you

2:26:54

can cause cascading failures So you

2:26:56

like you delete one little module

2:26:59

and you didn't lay out your wires, right? So all the wires go

2:27:01

away Right and

2:27:04

now you have to trace back and find it and you have like

2:27:06

30 40 seconds or something like that to

2:27:08

get the new Module and the wires plug back in Or

2:27:11

like yeah, I don't know you run out of

2:27:13

power and die critical failure failure blue screen And

2:27:15

I just added this new system called Abstraction

2:27:18

where you can add in another cube next

2:27:20

to it and have resources that pass through

2:27:22

the home Right

2:27:25

and I spent like three hours working on this

2:27:27

dolly zoom thing where the cube comes

2:27:29

into your view Which is normally an isometric right

2:27:31

and it pulls out into Orthogonal

2:27:36

right and then you can move around and pick your next

2:27:38

cube and then you zoom back in Right

2:27:40

and so now not only are you managing with the wires

2:27:42

that are going in the cube

2:27:45

You're now managing cubes on top

2:27:47

of cubes, right? So think of

2:27:50

my elevator pitches like factorial inside

2:27:52

a 40 hypercube. Yeah, right Yeah,

2:27:54

it's factorial in 3d space. But

2:27:56

if you fuck up the wires

2:27:58

you die. Sorry I

2:28:01

don't even think it's playing right now, whatever.

2:28:06

Oh, it's fine. Yeah,

2:28:08

okay. There's a fun sort of offshoot tangent.

2:28:10

Do you want to explain how the swear

2:28:12

button works? Sure. not

2:28:16

necessarily understand what that means. Oh, yeah.

2:28:19

So, swear button is a track inside

2:28:21

Reaper and

2:28:23

it has a tone that

2:28:26

is like the C-A-400 or

2:28:28

whatever it is that is

2:28:30

the swear noise and

2:28:32

then the swear button here actually

2:28:36

just solos that track which

2:28:39

mutes all of us because if I were

2:28:41

to put a swear bleep over just my

2:28:43

mic here, Luke's

2:28:45

mic would pick it up anyway, right? So, I have

2:28:47

to kill all of the mics simultaneously, right? Yeah.

2:28:50

So, that's a pretty quick and easy way to do

2:28:52

that. If you push

2:28:54

it, you still have to push the button.

2:28:57

Sorry. I'm

2:29:02

trying to go through merch messages while we're talking about this.

2:29:04

A significant amount of merch messages are just – You know,

2:29:06

worth it. Which

2:29:08

is making

2:29:11

my job a lot easier right now so I appreciate

2:29:13

it. Yeah. What else

2:29:15

can we talk about? I don't know. What's

2:29:17

going on? Dude, you mentioned something about trying

2:29:19

Godot. Oh, yeah. I've been doing

2:29:21

that. You can't just talk game dev all the time. I

2:29:24

have a lot of thoughts. They

2:29:26

will get me. Well, I mean, we're just tangent to

2:29:28

going to more game dev. Yeah. So,

2:29:31

I don't know. I'm just trying to keep the conversation – I'm new

2:29:33

at this, okay? Yeah. I mean, I've been doing it just as like

2:29:35

a learning thing. Good. I feel like

2:29:37

you're going on a direction of you might actually like do something

2:29:39

with this. I've made like 15

2:29:41

games. Sorry. I have failed at

2:29:44

making 15 games. So, that's a good way of

2:29:46

saying it. I'm planning on failing on making a

2:29:48

game. You will fail at making a lot of

2:29:50

games. Yeah. And the more games you fail

2:29:52

at making – this goes for you guys out there too – the

2:29:55

more times you fail, the more times

2:29:57

you've done a thing at all. Yeah,

2:30:00

yeah, so like but like I'm not

2:30:02

even necessarily the plan isn't even necessarily

2:30:05

to ever succeed. Yeah, I'm just having

2:30:07

fun Having

2:30:09

fun initially and then I'm kind of like

2:30:11

wow like I got past minimum

2:30:13

viable product Okay, I got to play it

2:30:15

for like the 20 seconds that you could

2:30:18

That was fun Did

2:30:21

you did you die? Did your robot die? I? Know

2:30:24

I mostly just die because I'm testing

2:30:26

to make sure it triggers properly, right? And

2:30:29

at what point is it you delete the wrong wire

2:30:31

you die you delete the end point that's feeding another

2:30:33

thing you die You delete the middle point you die

2:30:37

Right you need to keep that and so like redundant

2:30:39

systems, and I don't know it's gonna be ridiculous. I

2:30:41

think it'll be fun Yeah, I'm

2:30:43

still I'm still just working on clear codes clear

2:30:45

code has this tutorial on YouTube That's eleven and

2:30:47

a half hours long, and then you realize that

2:30:49

there's like a three-hour extension to it Oh, yeah,

2:30:52

I sent that to a friend recently. He wants

2:30:54

to get into game dev. It's fantastic. It's really

2:30:56

really good Even knows what he

2:30:58

wants to make That's nice,

2:31:00

and he hasn't changed what he wants to make in

2:31:02

a couple years I change what I want to make

2:31:04

essentially every time I sit down to work on it

2:31:06

But that's I'm completely okay with that right now because

2:31:09

I'll just like blow everything I've done And I want

2:31:11

to learn how to make this system. Yeah, yeah It's

2:31:13

like what if I what if I did these things

2:31:15

would that work and then I smash it together I'm

2:31:17

like no or yes, and crap it. Yeah Yeah

2:31:21

Here's some advice don't do anything

2:31:23

with an inventory system. Yeah, that sounds

2:31:26

great ever Yeah, my current plan is to do

2:31:28

so but I mean it'll probably change by next

2:31:30

you might actually know how to handle that Probably

2:31:32

better than I don't know I don't do not

2:31:34

make an RPG I

2:31:36

will shoot you that is a hundred percent the current

2:31:38

plan my current suck so The

2:31:40

game that I currently want to make The

2:31:47

game that I currently want to make I would

2:31:49

not be able to release because there's too much

2:31:51

like it entirely leans on

2:31:53

another IP Oh, yeah,

2:31:55

so I want to remake

2:31:58

in 2d a like old-school

2:32:01

RPG version of

2:32:04

the starting town for wood

2:32:06

elves in EverQuest 1 called

2:32:09

Kelithan. Okay. Because

2:32:12

that was like the first MMO that I played. I

2:32:16

remember how the city looked. I'm not even gonna... you

2:32:18

can go back and play it. There's like 1999 scape

2:32:20

or something like that. 2007 scape? 2007 scape. Why

2:32:25

did I say 99? I don't know. No idea.

2:32:28

OG. Well no,

2:32:31

that's RuneScape. No, no,

2:32:33

no. Project 99 is...

2:32:36

EverQuest. Okay. I think

2:32:38

it's called Project 99. Okay. Project

2:32:42

99. Yeah, Project 1999, classic

2:32:44

EverQuest. 2007 scape is RuneScape. That's

2:32:47

what I thought you meant. I'm talking about

2:32:49

EverQuest. Okay. So I played both of those games

2:32:51

when I was a wee one. But

2:32:54

yeah, I'm just like... my theory with that

2:32:56

is I can just make that like starting

2:32:58

area with you know the crushbone orcs.

2:33:00

I don't know why I remember this. I didn't play Project

2:33:02

99. I just remember this from when I was like 10.

2:33:04

Yeah. So I can make the orcs. I

2:33:08

can make that area. I can make the skeletons outside of

2:33:10

the town. I can make little bee things that you fight.

2:33:12

I can make the town. I can do all this other

2:33:14

kind of stuff. And by doing that, it gives me a

2:33:17

fairly defined scope. Mmm. And that's why

2:33:19

I wanted to do that. I don't plan

2:33:21

to make it a whole game, just the starting area.

2:33:23

I know the enemies. I know the areas. I don't

2:33:25

have to think about a map anymore. I don't have

2:33:27

to think about the music anymore. I don't have to

2:33:29

think about the names of things anymore. I just build

2:33:31

the things and try to make them work. And then

2:33:34

I'm gonna fail in 87 different ways. Then I

2:33:36

can't release it anyways. So it's like a project

2:33:38

that is intentionally

2:33:41

never going to work because I could never release

2:33:43

it because it's based on someone else's game. I

2:33:46

think another thing that I

2:33:49

ran into a lot when I was starting to

2:33:51

not even beyond scope, right? It was like what

2:33:53

system do I fail at? So

2:33:56

here's a concept for a game that's nice and

2:33:58

simple. How fast

2:34:00

can I get to where I can't do it anymore?

2:34:03

I really like RTS and I really like, obviously,

2:34:05

resource management games. And I

2:34:07

wanna go home and I wanna relax. So I'm not gonna be doing

2:34:10

anything that's super high energy and I don't

2:34:12

necessarily like the external pressure of like, hey,

2:34:15

do this thing or you die because

2:34:17

I'm an antagonist. Like

2:34:20

my game, you're your own antagonist.

2:34:22

It's your fault. You suck. You're

2:34:24

your worst enemy. So you're attempting to be better. And

2:34:27

so I wanted to move into like RTS style town

2:34:29

management just for fun and because I like

2:34:31

them and it's entertaining to work on. And

2:34:35

then I was like, oh, it's Friday. All

2:34:37

right, so now I just gotta make the little

2:34:39

dudes like walk around each other and

2:34:42

like get past objects that

2:34:45

I build. And then I

2:34:47

learned what A-Star Pathfinding was. And

2:34:50

I thought I'd have that done in like an afternoon. And

2:34:53

then I discovered that people write PhD thesis

2:34:55

on Pathfinding algorithms. Every once in a

2:34:58

while I like watching visualizations

2:35:00

of algorithms on YouTube because I find it fun and

2:35:02

Pathfinding ones are like super interesting. I did about a

2:35:04

week of that before I went, nope. Yeah. Okay,

2:35:07

so this entire genre is

2:35:10

off the checklist, right? So you're basically building like

2:35:12

a model of like, okay, well, I can't do

2:35:14

this. For me, I can't do art. Like

2:35:16

I can't do 3D art very well. Okay.

2:35:18

Right? Not super great at 2D art besides,

2:35:21

I don't know, marker stippling stuff. Can't really

2:35:23

make a game out of that. So

2:35:26

now I need a concept. People have made games out of a lot

2:35:28

of... I was gonna do a

2:35:30

game jam with one of made of clay, which would have been

2:35:32

fun. Yeah. Stop motion clay. Yeah.

2:35:35

Right? So you're kind of breaking down this level of...

2:35:38

What things am I good at slash enjoy slash want

2:35:40

to do? You don't even know what you can't do.

2:35:42

Totally. You're gonna have to... And it's weird and

2:35:44

it comes out of nowhere and there are things that you don't

2:35:46

expect. Like text

2:35:50

layout and like UX design.

2:35:54

Yeah, I hate that. I'm

2:35:56

not very good at this. Yeah. I

2:35:58

can't get it from where I see it. my brain to where it

2:36:01

looks pretty or right

2:36:03

and then you're going to look at your

2:36:05

projects and it's always going to be this like mark on it. I

2:36:08

don't know. I've always enjoyed projectiles. In

2:36:13

high school we had a course that

2:36:15

my absolutely fantastic teacher who's

2:36:17

a principal at a different school now,

2:36:20

but Mr. Troutl, he made a course for

2:36:22

the people in like effectively my grade because

2:36:24

he could tell we were all very interested

2:36:26

in this and it's called 3D game programming.

2:36:29

As far as I can tell he went to

2:36:31

BCIT over the summer and learned some stuff, turned

2:36:33

it into a high school course for us which

2:36:35

is just so sick. The

2:36:38

game that I made for that was I pulled

2:36:40

a battle state games making Tarkov and just downloaded

2:36:46

some assets instead of making them myself because

2:36:49

some people were more interested in making the 3D

2:36:51

models and I was like, I suck at this.

2:36:53

You do it well on steam in current year.

2:36:55

Yeah. Yeah. Asset flips are a bit

2:36:57

of a thing. I noticed that. It's a

2:37:00

coin nobody cares if you make your own assets either. Yeah. So

2:37:02

your main character in my game was a snowman and

2:37:05

you shot basketballs out of your face

2:37:07

at ninjas. Hello. I like to go. I

2:37:10

was just like whatever. It was like the easiest

2:37:12

to find models I could find and my whole

2:37:14

point was effectively I shouldn't have done this. I

2:37:16

was like trying to make a point like I

2:37:18

don't like making 3D models because I was a

2:37:20

dummy and just I guess wanted a lower grade.

2:37:22

I don't know. I was a stupid kid.

2:37:26

I wanted to focus on the mechanics of the game. So

2:37:28

I focused on the projectile

2:37:31

physics of this basketball basically. So

2:37:33

it could bounce and then off

2:37:36

of the varied terrain and then hit the

2:37:38

ninjas in different ways and stuff. I

2:37:43

don't know. I think I still have the

2:37:45

code somewhere but like. This gives me nightmares

2:37:47

about collision detection. Yeah

2:37:49

but I like that. I know. Yeah.

2:37:52

Right? Like

2:37:54

that's now your game. I'm literally doing

2:37:56

that stuff now. Yeah. I'm

2:37:58

stuck on collision detection because I'm I'm enjoying it. It's

2:38:00

been a fun process. And like what

2:38:03

is your collision update rate? Yes.

2:38:06

And is it decoupled from the frame rate? Yes,

2:38:10

it is. Good answer. But that

2:38:13

is, it is not, it's not, but... If

2:38:17

I remember correctly, Godot does, Godot

2:38:20

has built-in ways... Godot doesn't let you

2:38:23

do it the wrong way. They do let you.

2:38:25

Okay. But they throw warnings. Good, good, good.

2:38:27

If you can ignore them, it'll compile with

2:38:29

those warnings and you can play the game,

2:38:31

but it will be coupled to the frame

2:38:33

rate. But it makes it really

2:38:35

easy because when it throws one of those warnings,

2:38:37

it'll, it'll... Modern

2:38:40

IDEs are so fascinating to me because

2:38:42

back when I was doing programming heavily,

2:38:44

there was no GitHub and all the

2:38:46

IDs sucked and everything was terrible, and

2:38:49

now everything's so helpful and nice. But

2:38:51

it'll tell you exactly where the problem is

2:38:54

and link the documentation that will help

2:38:56

you solve it. So like I

2:38:58

ran into this problem... ClearCode

2:39:00

ended up explaining it like seconds after I dove

2:39:02

through it, which was fine, but... I

2:39:06

dove through the problem because I was like, this is

2:39:08

dumb, because I was watching the ClearCode video and

2:39:11

I could see the thing moving across his screen and

2:39:13

I could see it moving across my screen. I was

2:39:15

like, these are not at the same rate. Something is

2:39:17

wrong. I think it's tied to frame rate. This is

2:39:19

terrifying. I have to fix

2:39:21

this. And then he ends up explaining how

2:39:24

to fix it in this video. It's actually

2:39:26

super, super easy. There's stuff built into Godot

2:39:28

to help you fix timing, which is great.

2:39:30

It's really nice. It's super

2:39:32

easy to mess up in Unreal Engine

2:39:34

because like EventTech is right there. You

2:39:37

can just drag off of it, but I

2:39:39

want my game to run at, you know, 140, 200 FPS. I

2:39:45

can't be searching through arrays every...

2:39:51

You know, what, like one millisecond? I

2:39:55

don't think so. It's just unperformative,

2:39:57

right? It's also just like if you... you

2:40:00

aim to make a game super performant, the

2:40:02

main benefit in my mind is

2:40:05

that it can

2:40:08

be not performant and still playable.

2:40:10

If you can play it on something that's junk and

2:40:13

it's still a playable game. To

2:40:15

me, most games, 240 FPS, I'm too

2:40:17

old to be FPS competitive. It's

2:40:21

not going to make a difference for me. Yeah, but

2:40:23

that's one of my... I have two core tenets

2:40:25

for this. Support

2:40:27

any screen resolution in

2:40:29

any aspect ratio and

2:40:32

have it run at high refresh rate. I'm

2:40:35

struggling because the game view is

2:40:38

one-to-one. Okay. Because it's

2:40:41

a cube, you're inside a cube. Okay,

2:40:43

yeah. So that's

2:40:46

not super hard to render. It's

2:40:49

limited, right? Yeah.

2:40:53

Where do you put the UI when you're on a Super

2:40:55

Ultra Wide? Like, I've got a Super Ultra

2:40:57

Wide on my desk there, and so I'm playing on this.

2:41:00

How do I make use of, like, two

2:41:02

feet of black bars? Yeah.

2:41:06

I feel like... So there's, like, those kinds of

2:41:08

problems too, right? I feel like my solution, because

2:41:11

this is stuff I don't like working on, so

2:41:13

I feel like my solution would just be, like,

2:41:15

stretch graphic of some kind. I would

2:41:17

just... I just have them here, but then

2:41:19

they're tabbed. No, I mean, like, just, yeah,

2:41:21

have the UI be tucked in, and then

2:41:24

so you don't have black bars, just, like, make

2:41:27

it... take some, like, graphic that's,

2:41:29

like, the inside of a computer system to

2:41:31

some degree, and then just stretch until the

2:41:34

end. Like, whatever. Cool. That's

2:41:36

actually a great idea. I don't know if it's a great idea,

2:41:38

but that's the type of thing that I would do, because I'm

2:41:40

just, like, I don't want to deal with this problem, go away.

2:41:42

There's a lot of stuff in the UI that's tied to tick,

2:41:44

or that's tied to updates that need to

2:41:47

happen constantly, because, you know, you delete something,

2:41:51

the propagation might take a couple seconds, right?

2:41:55

And the bricks themselves are constantly checking

2:41:57

to make sure that they're still... alive,

2:42:01

basically. They have their requirements met, right? And

2:42:03

so if I was doing that 200 times

2:42:05

a second, it would be insane.

2:42:09

So, you know, like

2:42:12

one every 10th of a

2:42:15

second. It's totally

2:42:17

fine. Yeah. Let's try to

2:42:19

power through some merge messages and then bring

2:42:21

this thing to an end. I've

2:42:24

got one for you, which is about what

2:42:26

we're currently talking about, so we're really not

2:42:28

going that far off. But Dan, isn't your

2:42:30

game basically an allegory for self-improvement? You have

2:42:32

to leave your comfort zone in order to

2:42:34

advance. Yes,

2:42:38

it is. And I've

2:42:42

built it on the kind of the

2:42:45

mindset is like shelves. So, you know, I've climbed

2:42:47

up to this level. I'm comfortable

2:42:49

here. Everything's fine. I

2:42:51

mean, the game's called a copacetic, right?

2:42:53

So it's

2:42:56

cool. You know, you're cool. You're

2:42:58

fine. But you can't go anywhere. Like

2:43:00

you can't get to the next level. You can't get

2:43:02

the next research. You can't expand at all. And

2:43:05

you have to do something

2:43:07

scary. I mean, you can prepare for it. That's the

2:43:09

nice thing about it. It's not there's no time pressure.

2:43:11

You can sit there for you turn the game off.

2:43:14

You can walk away forever and you're not going to

2:43:16

have a problem. But you're

2:43:18

not going anywhere until you start

2:43:20

destroying things so

2:43:22

that they can be built back better. Like

2:43:27

poetry, you know, they rhyme. Ah,

2:43:30

very nice. I've got another one

2:43:32

for probably you. Hey,

2:43:34

Dan and Luke, whatever. I've been using

2:43:36

Tinkercad for all my 3D print modeling.

2:43:39

Really want to start using a more

2:43:41

in-depth CAD software. What do you use

2:43:43

slash recommend? That's entirely on you. I

2:43:46

use SolidWorks, which

2:43:49

is not necessarily for everyone. There's

2:43:53

loads of them. I'm not a huge

2:43:55

fan of... I

2:44:00

remember what the other one is now, the Autodesk products.

2:44:02

Fusion 360, thank you. Mostly

2:44:05

because what they've been doing to creators and

2:44:07

people that use it, they used to have a discounted

2:44:09

maker tier. Like

2:44:12

if you didn't really make money with it, you could

2:44:15

learn it. And then they did a

2:44:17

Tarkov, where they just

2:44:19

got rid of that and now you have to pay

2:44:21

a subscription and everything's cloud-based and it's

2:44:23

really expensive. Not that Solve

2:44:25

works any better, they're extremely

2:44:27

expensive. So there's lots

2:44:30

of free parametric stuff. I'd say

2:44:32

that Solve Works is attainable to

2:44:34

people, if you really wanna learn it. I

2:44:40

don't know. For a lot of people. Rhino.

2:44:43

For a lot of people. For a lot of people.

2:44:45

Yeah, get on Solve Works. Solve Works will teach you a

2:44:47

lot of transferable skills. But

2:44:50

parametric is the skill. I'm

2:44:54

really good at parametric modeling, not like some of

2:44:56

the designers we have in CW, but

2:44:59

I understand parametric model. I don't

2:45:01

understand Blender. Like

2:45:03

I've been modeling since high school, right? But

2:45:07

I can make cubes nice. I

2:45:10

can't make people. Right,

2:45:13

makes sense. There's loads of free ones

2:45:15

and there's loads of good ones. Rhino is probably one to look at.

2:45:19

But yeah, Solve Works. Hi DLL, I recently

2:45:21

had to log into a laptop that I

2:45:23

hadn't used in 15 years. Not

2:45:26

knowing my password, I used fingerprint login.

2:45:29

What are your thoughts regarding the

2:45:31

use of biometrics with them being

2:45:33

hard to change? Hard

2:45:36

to change. Wider. Like

2:45:38

your own biometrics? Stoned. Hard

2:45:41

to change. Really hot

2:45:43

car. Oh my goodness. Wow.

2:45:49

That's an interesting question. That

2:45:52

is an interesting question. What happens

2:45:54

if you lose your finger in a government facility?

2:46:00

Slightly oddly specific. It'd

2:46:04

be harder at keys when we're

2:46:06

on camera. Do we have to

2:46:08

start, like, doing this sort of

2:46:10

thing? I think our cameras

2:46:12

are maybe not good enough for that. No, they're

2:46:15

breaking. I gotta get new cameras now. Yeah, yeah.

2:46:17

Where is it? It's right here. Here?

2:46:20

Oh, well. We

2:46:24

don't have any more of these. Yeah,

2:46:26

we are. This is literally all three of them, isn't it?

2:46:28

Yeah, that's right. And someone pointed out apparently the one that

2:46:30

we thought was fine actually does have one. Your one? I

2:46:33

don't know what one it was, because I didn't see it. Uh,

2:46:36

what is it? Loop

2:46:38

cam. Oh, I still don't see it. Where?

2:46:41

We have that thing on the screen. Oh, is that covering

2:46:43

it? There's a thing on

2:46:45

the screen that you guys can't see that we can see.

2:46:47

Is it behind that? Let me know when I get it. Uh,

2:46:50

you're over it, yeah. Not

2:46:53

over the bar, though. There you go. I

2:46:56

still don't see it. Oh,

2:47:05

there it is. So it was behind the thing.

2:47:07

Oh, that sucks. Well. Cool. Okay,

2:47:10

whatever. Oh, biometrics. I

2:47:13

think biometrics are pretty cool, actually. Are you going to have them not

2:47:16

changing? I

2:47:20

mean, mostly. That's

2:47:22

okay. Yeah. If it was face

2:47:24

ID, would it no longer recognize you? If

2:47:27

it's been 15 years. It absolutely could. Also,

2:47:30

if, say, heaven forbid, there was like

2:47:32

an acid attack or something that happened,

2:47:34

like, yeah. Bad shaving. Yeah.

2:47:37

Usually, I, and

2:47:39

I think this was the case in this situation

2:47:41

as well, though, usually biometric logins are backed up

2:47:43

by passwords. So it's

2:47:45

not your only way to get in. Which is

2:47:48

why I generally think they're cool. Should

2:47:51

we move to chips? Embedded.

2:47:54

I always like, I knew

2:47:57

some biohacker dudes. and

2:48:00

I was in high school that were doing that, like

2:48:03

way before it was, it's

2:48:06

not normal now, but this was like way back,

2:48:08

and they sent me a video of them just

2:48:10

like hanging out in this like basement suite that

2:48:12

they all rented together, like stabbing

2:48:15

themselves with- Giant needles. Yeah.

2:48:17

I've always kind of wanted the magnet. No, we

2:48:19

do a fingerprint night. Yeah. Fingertip magazine.

2:48:21

You can get one of those things. Yeah,

2:48:24

that's pretty interesting. Anyways,

2:48:28

that's a topic I have no right to talk about. With

2:48:32

that attitude, get some experience there, look. Steven D.

2:48:34

Steven D says, I'm almost four months behind. It

2:48:36

would be awesome if you could read this message

2:48:38

on stream to remind me that I sent a

2:48:41

merch message when I finally catch up. There you

2:48:43

go, done. Hey,

2:48:46

L and D, I hope you're doing well. I

2:48:48

recently started my data center career

2:48:51

with Amazon, and things have

2:48:53

been interesting. What is the jankiest

2:48:55

thing you've seen a big company do not counting

2:48:57

L and D? I have an answer, do you?

2:49:01

I was able to pre-think about this, so I could go first if you want.

2:49:04

Not sure. I've

2:49:07

seen a like

2:49:10

server room type situation where

2:49:12

the power was controlled with a light switch,

2:49:18

and the light switch was not in like a security box or

2:49:20

anything, there was just like a piece of paper that

2:49:23

was like, don't flip! Regular

2:49:25

UPS testing. Yeah.

2:49:29

That's all it was. It's very

2:49:31

astute business decision. Yeah.

2:49:35

I've also seen the like, hey,

2:49:38

the server is this laptop. Don't

2:49:41

unplug it. I

2:49:45

think that, okay, jankiest thing, I worked at

2:49:47

a job and they needed a microwave link.

2:49:51

But they couldn't really get a very expensive,

2:49:53

powerful one, right? They're

2:49:55

kind of difficult to get, you need

2:49:58

special regulations. Not if you set the country. to

2:50:00

a different country and

2:50:03

then just set it to like nuclear power

2:50:05

levels of bird melting and

2:50:09

can go whatever distance you want. I

2:50:12

don't know if that's janky or just extremely

2:50:15

reckless but I think it was zap-strapped to

2:50:17

a building like oh it just had this

2:50:19

pole. We bought this giant microwave transmitter off of

2:50:22

eBay for like 300 bucks. We're

2:50:24

just going to zap-strapped it and set it

2:50:26

to melt birds. But it gets

2:50:28

200 feet now. It's

2:50:32

solved. It's solved. Don't

2:50:34

walk under it. What

2:50:36

happens? What? Did you create

2:50:39

this one? What happens? Oh, streak.

2:50:41

My brain. I also read strip. I

2:50:44

read steak. Oh no, steak. Yeah,

2:50:46

steak. Okay,

2:50:48

so hey Dan and Luke and Linus.

2:50:50

What happens when the streak breaks? Will

2:50:53

you start a new one or open

2:50:55

WAN to other hosts? Will you plan

2:50:57

to replace who has been in established

2:51:01

positions for some time? I

2:51:04

think this is one of those situations where I'm going to give the

2:51:06

really annoying answer if the streak's not going to break. I

2:51:08

don't think so. Yeah, that's kind of the

2:51:10

idea. I think at this point we've all

2:51:13

described the like relatively atomic

2:51:15

scenarios that we would go through in

2:51:17

order to keep the streak going. So

2:51:20

I don't

2:51:23

necessarily really see it happening. I

2:51:27

don't know. I don't think so. I

2:51:29

would like to, like I've

2:51:31

done the production remote. I

2:51:34

would like to try it from far away.

2:51:37

Vancouver Island in October. Yeah, yeah.

2:51:40

Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah. Yeah,

2:51:43

how remote have you done the stream? My

2:51:45

house. Yeah, okay. I

2:51:48

think it's fine. There will just be

2:51:50

little delays. Not even because

2:51:52

I'm coming in like, I don't

2:51:55

know, like basically Linus's level, right?

2:51:57

It's 300 milliseconds or less. That's

2:52:00

what I'm saying, like very little, yeah, shouldn't

2:52:03

even really matter much. But

2:52:05

yeah, I don't know. There is no plan

2:52:07

in place because I don't think, I think

2:52:09

we're all rather stubborn people. Yeah,

2:52:12

the streak is to do

2:52:14

it every week forever.

2:52:17

Yeah. Hi, DL. Luke,

2:52:20

have you watched AMC's show Halt

2:52:22

and Catch Fire? I strongly recommend

2:52:24

it. No, never heard of it.

2:52:28

Is AMC watchable up here without

2:52:32

Linux ISOs? I

2:52:37

don't know. I

2:52:39

don't know about any of these. Sean

2:52:43

is... I don't watch TV,

2:52:45

sure. Sean says awesome show, Halt and

2:52:47

Catch Fire. What is this? It's like

2:52:50

a birth of computers. Oh!

2:52:53

But as a drama and it's fun. It's very

2:52:55

fun. Cool. But not

2:52:57

that I have seen it or consume any media because...

2:53:00

No, of course not. Just

2:53:02

a server full of Linux ISOs.

2:53:05

Anyways, I think that's it. I think

2:53:07

we're done. I think we just

2:53:09

finished the show. Okay. So do

2:53:11

you want to say the line? You

2:53:14

don't have to. I can even

2:53:16

remember. I'm mostly focused on just getting ready to

2:53:18

push this button in order you guys... I'll do

2:53:20

both the lines. Thanks for tuning in

2:53:23

to The WAN Show. Tune

2:53:25

in next week. Same

2:53:27

bad time, same bad channel. Except it

2:53:29

will actually be a different time. Oh

2:53:32

yeah. No, it'll be later than this.

2:53:35

This is when we're supposed to

2:53:37

start. Yeah, we were supposed to start 10 minutes ago.

2:53:41

Never gonna happen. Anyways, bye! Push the

2:53:43

button. Now

2:53:45

I Have to run back over to the other computer.

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