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0:01
What is up everyone? Welcome to The WAN
0:04
Show. Wow, that's all the energy I can
0:06
muster today. Sick. In
0:08
any other universe where... breaking
0:11
the streak was an option. I think I
0:13
wouldn't be here today. But let's go.
0:17
What are you two topics? I almost pulled all
0:20
nighters. So we're gonna get
0:22
into why that was and why we're
0:24
here anyway. What else we
0:26
got today? Oh right. TikTok
0:28
is banned. But no for real this
0:31
time. But wait, no maybe not. You
0:33
know what? No you're right. That topic
0:35
sucks. It's boring. Okay, Mozilla blasts
0:37
dating apps for dropping their
0:40
privacy standards. And this is a
0:44
bigger deal even than it sounds like. I was floored
0:46
when I was reading through this. Okay, what else we
0:48
got today? Gamers
0:50
escape from escape from Tarkov. It might
0:52
finally be over. If the Cheers weren't
0:55
enough, we've got a doozy for you.
0:58
Also, I don't know what else? Net
1:03
neutrality might be back. FCC
1:06
votes to restore Obama. Obama era
1:09
rules repealed under Trump. We're
1:12
restoring Obama. I mean you look, you see
1:14
the pictures? The day he started his term
1:16
and the day his term ended? We're
1:19
gonna restore him boys. We're gonna put that
1:21
black hair back. He's
1:24
gonna look less haunted. Dude's
1:28
seen some stuff. Oh boy.
1:31
Just roll the intro. We got
1:33
this. Wait,
1:39
what? Pretty
1:42
sick, huh? This
1:44
is awesome. Yeah,
1:57
dead. Dead in the corner. Oh
2:02
man, that's great. That's awesome. Pretty
2:05
cool. Hey, did you see that on Reddit? I
2:09
saw the post, but I never ended up actually watching it. I
2:11
meant to, but I think I just... Oh my God. That's
2:14
pretty great. It's amazing.
2:17
It's like it really raises the question, why did
2:19
we ever bother to try to create our own
2:21
intros for anything? You know that the LTT 3D1
2:24
is based on just a
2:27
random viewer that created that, and then
2:29
we reached out to them, we had
2:31
it tweaked, and now
2:34
we use that as well. Wow. That's pretty
2:36
great. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
2:39
Like that must have been...correct me if I'm
2:41
wrong, guys. If you're in the audience and
2:44
you're going like, oh yeah, that's really simple
2:46
or something, then by all means let me
2:48
know. But that looked like a freaking ton
2:50
of work to me. Absolutely
2:52
incredible. We have
2:54
one of the most, and I'm not just
2:56
blowing smoke, we have one of the most
2:59
talented viewer bases out there. When
3:02
I see stuff like that, it just absolutely blows
3:04
my mind. So that was super cool. I
3:08
feel terrible for
3:10
not knowing the name
3:13
of the person who submitted it. Do we have that handy,
3:15
Dan? Yes, that's
3:17
by Nate C. Absolutely
3:20
killed it. He remade a special
3:22
version for me without the ending credit so
3:24
that I could put our sponsors over it,
3:27
even supplied the font that was going to be for
3:29
it. Super awesome. That is
3:32
so cool. Did we give him money? I
3:35
don't know. We can follow up if you want.
3:37
Okay. Yeah, I'm going to
3:39
send a message to Vance,
3:41
and I'm going to make sure that some money
3:44
leaves our bank account. While
3:46
you do that, you were talking about housing. Amazing.
3:48
We have a very creative community. Escape from Tarkov
3:50
has a very angry community. Escape
3:53
from Tarkov developer Battlestate Games has angered
3:55
fans by releasing a new 250-year-old. US
4:00
dollar version of the game you heard
4:02
it right after taxes and fees and
4:04
everything else this is like almost 400
4:07
Canadian dollars or something like that. I don't remember
4:09
exactly But the
4:11
the fees and taxes are pretty brutal as well.
4:13
It is Wildly expensive
4:15
have you not heard of this? No,
4:19
okay, this is my one big lose
4:21
this topic dude I've
4:23
done nothing but shoot videos and inhale paint
4:26
fumes. I have no idea what's
4:28
going on Yeah, 250 us
4:30
dollar version of the game
4:32
the pricey new unheard edition
4:35
includes access to an
4:37
offline PvE co-op mode
4:39
which Supports
4:42
all of the quests and everything else that
4:44
the main game does all able to be
4:46
done in PvE co-op
4:48
actually pretty cool Like I
4:50
probably enjoy that version of the game more
4:52
because the reality of it is I love
4:54
the concept But I'm not sweaty enough to
4:56
play Tarkov. Yeah, hold on though that Existing
4:59
at all. Yeah is not why people are mad.
5:02
Yeah, we'll get there in a second Right people
5:04
love the idea that's a thing.
5:06
Yeah, totally Yeah, I've been begging
5:08
for this for I don't know.
5:10
It's the whole time the game
5:12
has existed. So yeah, totally Problem
5:15
as long as they're not plastic begging
5:17
those are banned then everything's good This
5:27
PvE co-op mode will will have
5:29
persistent progress so when the game
5:31
wipes it won't reset every time
5:34
Cool. Yeah, so those things like
5:37
like like Baldur's Gate or whatever like you can
5:39
have like a campaign that you're playing with your
5:41
friends And you're in your it's a
5:43
cool mode So if if yeah, if you can't
5:45
play all the time of that. Yeah,
5:48
exactly. Me too. I would there's there's like
5:50
every time I touch Tarkov it's
5:52
wiped like I just it's not the kind
5:54
of thing that I can commit to playing
5:56
every day or every other day I genuinely
5:58
think every time we have played played, you've
6:00
had a fresh character. So it
6:02
is what it is. Yeah. Cool. Yeah,
6:05
I think it's fantastic. There's, there's unsanctioned,
6:07
they don't like it. This is, I
6:09
don't know the, where the legality lies
6:12
on this, but there's like this thing
6:14
called SPT Tarkov where it's single player
6:16
Tarkov and there is an unofficial co-op
6:18
mode thing, but those are all, uh,
6:20
Battlestate Games fights against those and doesn't
6:22
like those. Those are, uh, they
6:25
think they're bad. So this is like an official one. Um,
6:28
the, the game's official Twitter account
6:30
has confirmed that this mode is
6:33
exclusive to the $250 US dollar
6:35
pre-taxes pre-fees
6:39
unheard edition. This is a big deal. Okay.
6:41
Really big deal. Hold on. I have a
6:43
big question here. Yeah. How did they know
6:46
that I hadn't heard about it? I just
6:51
hit my face against the mic. That made
6:53
me facepalm so hard. Um,
6:56
this is a big deal
6:58
since the, yeah, there you
7:00
go. It's a big deal
7:02
since the $150 US dollar
7:04
edge of darkness edition, which
7:07
is no longer available for
7:09
purchase, promised buyers free access
7:11
to all subsequent DLCs. And
7:14
there is actually on the subreddit, uh,
7:17
there's a screenshot of a tweet.
7:19
Are they arguing this is, they're
7:21
arguing that it's a feature, not
7:23
a DLC. Well,
7:27
what the heck is a DLC? Yeah.
7:29
What is the difference? There's a tweet. Go
7:34
for it. Can we get together and
7:36
define what exactly DLC means? Because as
7:39
far as I can tell, it's a catch all term. The
7:42
content you got, okay. Well, tell me this. Do
7:45
you download this or do they mail it to you?
7:51
I would, I, it would be so
7:53
funny if they mailed this
7:56
to everyone. So
7:58
like trying to get around it. That would be
8:01
hilarious. I mean, I'm gonna explain the cost Yeah,
8:04
I still don't think so. There's
8:06
a there's been a bunch of you Luke I have
8:10
you ever tried to mail a box of weasels like
8:12
yeah, we don't know what they're mailing. Oh man
8:17
No, sleep blindness is a heck of a thing The
8:21
what was I gonna say? There's there's been quotes
8:23
from them before about saying how like EOD or
8:25
edge of darkness is supposed to be the the
8:27
highest here They're ever gonna release There's
8:30
a screenshot of a tweet that says you don't
8:32
need to buy anything at any stage if you
8:34
have EOD You don't even have to pay for
8:36
DLCs in the future. You're all in for all
8:38
of it coming It's
8:41
it's yeah, and this would also tie
8:44
in with the fact that EOD or
8:46
edge of darkness with this All DLCs thing has existed.
8:49
I think since 2017 or 2016 even yeah, I'm not
8:51
sure but it's been at least 2017 and the
8:58
the only thing DLC-able
9:00
that has been available to them has
9:02
been a very recent release of something
9:05
called Tarkov Arena, which No
9:08
way, I would argue the vast majority
9:10
of future Yeah,
9:12
and then they never do their content and
9:15
that well they delivered Partially
9:18
and then decided that they're on a
9:20
meal pray. They don't alter it further
9:22
I mean is the Tarkov audience this
9:25
Stockholm syndrome that they just this is
9:27
their game I don't think anymore
9:29
like that's the way that I see it every time
9:31
I play Tarkov dude I'm like look if
9:34
I wasn't living and Breathing
9:36
the meta of this game There
9:38
is absolutely no way like I couldn't
9:41
I couldn't possibly hoping and some games aren't like
9:43
that some games You can drop
9:45
in six months later and fundamentally kind of
9:47
know what you're doing You know you you
9:49
jump into Team Fortress 2. It's like oh,
9:51
there's new hats. You know whatever
9:53
I'm probably gonna get beamed by you
9:55
know flying squirrel or
9:57
something but
10:01
But Tarkov, it really does feel like if you're
10:03
not on top of it, you just have no idea.
10:05
So presumably then, this
10:08
is the game that a lot
10:10
of these people play and this is going
10:12
to sound crazy. This is going to upset some people,
10:14
but $250 over a span of, let's say it's a
10:16
year. Let's
10:21
say it's a year that they actually have
10:23
this be the top tier or whatever. That's
10:29
$20 a month compared to
10:31
what some people out there who play one
10:33
game are spending on
10:35
their cosmetics, are spending on their
10:38
microtransactions. It's
10:40
not even that crazy.
10:43
Now one second, I
10:46
would never pay it. Absolutely
10:48
not. Yeah and theoretically the
10:52
people are going to pay it. Yes,
10:54
and some people already have. Some streamers already
10:56
have, which was a little disappointing. Yeah, Battle
10:58
State's going to learn nothing. I
11:00
think they're going to learn something actually. Their
11:05
player base is extremely on fire right now.
11:08
The subreddit is on fire. People are trying
11:10
to spin up lawsuits because again, there was
11:12
a version that said you get all DLC.
11:14
They've been quoted saying that you don't have
11:17
to pay anything again because you own all
11:19
the things and then now they release something
11:21
that is incredibly
11:24
more expensive than it was before. And
11:27
there's continued issues. We're not even through the main
11:29
body of this topic. There's a lot to talk
11:32
about here. You mentioned there being no other games.
11:34
I got to jump in for a second
11:37
though because Time Stamp guy Noki is coming
11:40
in correcting me on Team Fortress 2. You
11:43
often use TF2 as an example, but they
11:45
haven't added any new weapons since Jungle Inferno
11:47
2017. Metas
11:49
pop up every now and then, but nearly everything has been
11:51
static ever since. Okay, well let me tell
11:54
you something, Noki. I play Team
11:56
Fortress 2 once every approximately three years.
12:00
Yeah, so sorry.
12:04
Yes, you're probably right. My
12:06
big moment for TF2 was when they
12:08
started adding all the like rando weapons.
12:10
And I was just like, oh, okay,
12:12
now I have to pay attention to
12:14
this game a lot. You're right. It's
12:16
not really a huge issue anymore because
12:18
all this kind of moved on to
12:21
other money making endeavors. But it
12:23
was an example back then. And I
12:25
should have clarified because I should
12:27
have known that they haven't added any weapons since
12:29
Jungle Inferno 2017. Thank
12:32
you very much, Noki. And can we
12:34
just get a little bit of appreciation for Noki? Thanks,
12:36
Noki. Every week, like an
12:38
absolute chat. Yeah. All right,
12:40
thank you. Full-plane
12:43
customer support Joe in full-plane
12:46
chat said offline co-op progression servers are slammed with
12:48
20 to 30 minute queue times. People
12:50
are buying it. So I'm sad. Which
12:53
this is like, man, that is the
12:55
most if EOD buyers, so
12:57
people who bought the edge of darkness edition that said
12:59
they got all the free DLC and they never need
13:01
to pay for anything again. If those people upgraded their
13:03
accounts, that's like the most. I
13:06
feel like this is like an outdated term, but that's like the
13:08
most beta thing ever. They
13:11
just scammed the hell out of you. Wow. It's going to
13:13
be you with the hot takes. Yeah, they
13:15
just scammed the hell out of you. And
13:17
you were like, all right.
13:19
Yeah, please take more of my money. You
13:22
just abused me here. Let me financially support
13:24
you further. So, yeah, that's a little weird
13:26
to me. I don't support that
13:28
at all. But anyways, moving
13:31
forward, I'm going to try to get
13:33
through more of this topic and then we can discuss. Oh,
13:35
no, no, I'm not actually. I'm going to tangent again.
13:37
You said there's no other games. Funny
13:40
timing. There's
13:43
a very recent game now in early access.
13:45
Is it in early access? No, you can
13:47
just request it. I think they had
13:49
a play test recently or something. I'm not really sure what's
13:51
going on with this, but Greyzone Warfare is a game that
13:53
has like a... It's not
13:55
the same thing, but it will probably capture
13:57
a very similar audience. During
14:01
this, Battlestate Games, I think
14:03
most notably Nikita, got in
14:05
a direct argument with another
14:07
game called Arena Breakout Infinite
14:10
that they are claiming is
14:13
a direct ripoff of Tarkov. So
14:15
maybe there is an alternative for
14:17
people, but we'll see.
14:21
Oh my god, I just
14:23
read the next bullet point.
14:25
This is unbelievable. In
14:27
an attempt to fix the
14:29
situation, Battlestate Games COO Nikita
14:31
Buyanov took to Reddit to
14:34
announce this is great.
14:36
They're giving Edge of Darkness buyers access
14:38
to the offline PvE mode. This is
14:40
less great for six months. Yeah. That
14:44
is unhinged. Yeah.
14:47
That's not even the next bullet point though. There's more. This
14:50
is a super hardcore game. You die,
14:52
you lose all your stuff. And
14:54
this edition of the game is
14:57
directly, unquestionably, pay
14:59
to win in multiple ways.
15:02
Oh no. Why would you have a pay to
15:04
win co-op game, Luke? No, no, no, no. Why
15:07
would you have a PvE pay to win? The
15:10
features are in co-op, but also in
15:13
the main game. So
15:16
there's things
15:19
like... Let me see if
15:21
I can find... Yeah,
15:23
here we go. Wait, no, this is update regarding
15:25
the EOD edition. You
15:27
know, I hate to generalize,
15:30
but can gamers grow a backbone a little
15:32
bit? Yeah. Like
15:35
the gaming community has to be one of the most
15:37
whiny communities. But
15:40
when it comes time to actually just do
15:43
something, or better yet, not
15:45
do something, just don't
15:47
buy it. They can't.
15:49
And I realize I've probably gone on
15:51
this rant before, but like, this
15:53
is just embarrassing. I mean,
15:56
look, I don't think you're allowed to use the
15:58
term beta male anymore. Maybe not. It's
16:03
for real. It's just like... You're getting a
16:05
view and then giving them more money. Yeah.
16:08
It's like... maybe
16:11
there's a more correct current term. I don't know what
16:13
it is. But
16:16
yeah, let me read through some of the features
16:19
of this edition. Fine.
16:24
I'm not even going to read through all of them because one of
16:26
them is like digital copy preload, which is like, who cares. So
16:29
access to that PvE mode, that's cool.
16:32
I wish there was other ways to buy it so
16:34
you didn't have to spend an amount of money that
16:36
most people don't even have to spend on video games
16:38
at all, let alone one of them. Increased
16:41
stash size, so that's like
16:43
mostly a... No way. You
16:47
get a bigger stash? So hold on.
16:49
It's so much worse. It's
16:52
so much worse. Expanded
16:55
PMC pockets. So
16:57
while you're playing, you have a limited amount
16:59
of inventory space. The game
17:01
works and it has a
17:03
very complicated and important economy. And
17:06
being able to take more things out
17:08
of the raid will make it so
17:10
that in future raids you're going to
17:12
be better geared because you have a
17:14
better financial situation. And having increased pocket
17:16
sizes... Well yeah, it has like a
17:18
cumulative effect. Yeah, so before...
17:21
Whatever. It'll have a snowball effect because if
17:23
you can take so much more stuff out,
17:26
you can carry out more stuff to sell
17:28
and then you can buy more cooler stuff,
17:30
which means you can kill
17:32
people even more easily and better and raid their stuff
17:34
and take even more. But this is ridiculous. And it
17:37
makes it so that if you're trying to do a
17:39
run where you're trying to be very economic, you
17:41
can actually bring less stuff in because not
17:43
only do you have more pocket slots, before
17:46
you had four one by one pocket slots.
17:49
Now you have two one by one pocket slots
17:51
and two two by one pocket slots. So
17:54
you have tall things that you
17:56
can put like full size magazines in. I
18:01
don't dude I don't think that there is a scandal
18:03
big enough to make gamers wake
18:05
up like literally this version
18:07
of the game Could be
18:09
could be called Give
18:11
me your money bitch edition internal. Yeah,
18:13
that's a total codename that might even
18:16
be leak and Gamers
18:18
would do it anyway. Yeah. Yeah
18:22
So in addition to the the pockets and the
18:24
sash size you also have an increased like
18:29
Reputation standing with one of the the characters
18:31
in the game called fence so that you
18:33
can sell more stuff on the flea market
18:35
Which is like player-to-player selling and
18:37
you have more slots on the flea
18:39
market So you can put more things on
18:41
the flea market Which is directly going to
18:43
mean that you're going to be able to
18:45
make more money faster, which is a huge
18:47
portion of the game You
18:49
get a unique in-game melee weapon,
18:51
which people found was just
18:54
an asset from the unity asset store Directly
18:56
taken they didn't do any form of modification
18:58
to it. It's just literally straight
19:01
up an asset from the asset store I don't remember
19:03
if it was like a free asset or like a
19:05
six dollar asset or something, but they just like oh You're
19:08
the asset. Yeah, pretty much Increased
19:11
mail retention time so like if you
19:13
if you buy insurance, oh,
19:15
yeah If you
19:17
buy like insurance in the game or something like that
19:19
look Most
19:22
People don't play Tarkov. So
19:24
there's a lot of people watching this that are probably
19:26
going I don't understand anything It's a big deal
19:28
out of this Yeah And I get this I
19:31
get this every time that I talk about something
19:33
that Apple is doing that is super anti consumer
19:35
as well Where you know you'll have the usual
19:37
crowd of low-line is just hates Apple. Just
19:40
don't buy it You'll you'll get you'll
19:42
get that sort of that chorus of
19:44
bad takes where people are are missing
19:46
the big picture here the big picture
19:49
is that this is a this is a
19:51
precedent now and Outrage
19:53
we have a limited capacity
19:55
for outrage, right? We
19:58
were so outraged and I know we talk about
20:00
this one a lot. We were outraged about
20:02
horse armor in Oblivion. Nowadays, we're
20:05
basically like men, this game is
20:08
great because all their
20:11
DLC is cosmetic and
20:13
not balance shifting. Or, you know
20:16
what, we can maybe
20:18
allow for this skin, this
20:20
really popular skin. It's
20:23
kind of more camouflaged on this
20:25
map and that map. You know
20:27
what, we'll still accept that. You
20:29
know what, realistically you could farm
20:31
for ammo for that super OP
20:34
gun, so you don't have to
20:36
buy ammunition. I know
20:38
that slippery slope arguments are not
20:40
very good arguments, but when
20:42
you are slipping down the
20:44
slope, actively tumbling
20:46
head over heels, like what's going
20:49
on with this Tarkov situation, where
20:51
they are taking a game where
20:54
balance is everything
20:56
to the experience and
20:59
messing it up and charging you a bunch of money.
21:01
My connection
21:09
didn't actually die there, my brain is slow today because
21:11
I didn't sleep last night and I ran out of
21:14
steam. I thought if I
21:16
just stop moving, then maybe they'll think I'm not
21:18
with the connection. I
21:21
brought up the trailer and got
21:24
some visual representations of
21:26
some of the pay to win things. Here's
21:28
your increased stash size, here's your increased PMC
21:30
pockets. You can see how these ones are
21:33
taller, so you can fit full size magazines
21:35
in your pockets now that was never possible
21:37
before. Now you could go without attack rig,
21:40
so you're spending less money on doing
21:42
future raids. Your character skills are just
21:45
increased. This was already a weird thing in
21:47
my opinion because people who could play the
21:49
game for a living would have higher base
21:51
skills because it would take an obscene
21:55
amount of hours to level these skills up.
22:00
maybe work for a living and then
22:02
spend money on the game can also
22:04
have increased skills and that can directly
22:06
make it so that if you play
22:08
exactly the same the
22:10
person with the higher skill count could beat you
22:12
because some of these things are like you won't
22:15
bleed as as easily or You're
22:17
more accurate or reload faster with guns. You
22:19
can run for longer. You can carry more
22:21
stuff you can Jump higher
22:23
what like if you're if your strength is high enough
22:25
in the game You can jump
22:27
on to things that other people can't like it's it's
22:30
being able to have higher skills is directly pay to win
22:32
Right and then down here improve
22:34
starting equipment set Which
22:38
is less of a big deal in my mind and
22:40
then moving forward Every
22:45
idea that battle state games implements here
22:47
is something that we will see
22:50
implemented somewhere else when
22:52
inevitably gamers just lie
22:54
down and take it and There's
22:57
no consequences. So here it
22:59
is. This is my call for anyone
23:01
who Is
23:04
actually into Tarkov because they're
23:06
the only ones who can who can make
23:08
up set a precedent here who
23:10
can say look? This is too far Don't
23:13
play it. Yeah, like seriously set a
23:15
calendar set a calendar. I look I get
23:17
it. It's your favorite game That's
23:20
chill set a calendar
23:22
notification for yourself for six months
23:25
At least a temporary boycott will send
23:27
a message like yeah It might
23:30
not affect their wallet because realistically you already
23:32
bought the game anyway, whatever But
23:35
what it will do is it will cause
23:38
their concurrent player counts to decline it
23:40
will send an actual message
23:42
that they can actually understand it
23:44
will degrade the gaming experience for
23:48
New people who come in and they're like this thing is
23:50
empty and to be clear. It's
23:52
not about punishing them It's about punishing
23:54
battle state games. It's about like look we
23:57
are your community. We are
24:00
What makes your game good? Treat
24:03
us with respect act
24:05
like you deserve respect and you might get some
24:07
there. That's it Yeah,
24:10
oh Wow Six
24:14
months boycott don't play Whoa
24:19
the the top. Oh, no
24:21
what now the top Tarkov streamer
24:23
right now I
24:26
believe is Streaming modded
24:28
single-player Tarkov, which is a
24:31
little unheard of in
24:34
my mind 5,000
24:36
viewers are watching this person playing a modded
24:38
version of the game, which is like super
24:41
not okay with Tarkov. I Was
24:45
just wondering I was gonna go see like how many streamers are
24:47
currently playing this I wouldn't go after Streamers
24:50
that are playing the game It's really rough when
24:52
like if you're if your entire income stream is
24:54
based around like playing this one game even
24:57
if the Company that runs
24:59
that game does something deplorable It's it's
25:01
rough to kind of fully pull out
25:04
but maybe encourage people to to try
25:06
out alternatives like Greyzone warfare Or
25:09
potentially it's not out yet And I know nothing
25:11
about the game at all But arena breakout infinite
25:13
alternate games that are in somewhat
25:15
of a similar style that you think they might like
25:17
and their audiences might also like But
25:19
I wouldn't go around don't don't go around
25:21
like harassing streamers for playing it, but Yeah
25:25
rough I I was already
25:27
done because their response to the whole
25:29
cheater situation was a giant nothing burger
25:32
And I'm not down to Play
25:35
a game like this with a bunch of cheaters
25:37
and then when I first heard this announced I
25:39
didn't see the price tag and
25:42
I saw the The co-op
25:45
PvE mode and I was so
25:47
stoked because I was like we're back. This
25:49
game is super sick It's not gonna wipe I can
25:51
play with like Linus or Joe or whoever else is
25:54
a bunch of different people that I play with It'll
25:58
be fun. We don't have to deal with any of that kind of stuff and
26:00
then I
26:04
was like, ah, no, yeah, no. I don't want
26:06
anyone to buy this. So I guess that's never happening.
26:09
There's other weird stuff too. Like there's an
26:11
item that you can get. I think this
26:14
might only be if you have the Unheard
26:16
edition or something, I'm not certain, where Scavs,
26:18
the scavengers, basically the AI characters in the
26:20
game, won't shoot you if you
26:22
are 60 meters
26:25
or more away, but
26:27
like only if you have this version. So it's like, it's
26:29
super pay to win. I don't think anyone
26:31
that like enjoyed the hardcore
26:33
realism nature of Tarkov should honestly play
26:36
anymore. I think this entirely broke the
26:38
game, but it's up to
26:40
you guys to make your own decisions. Moving
26:42
on though, next topic. We're gonna see what happens. Apparently
26:44
that streamer got permission to stream
26:46
that version of the game. Really?
26:50
From Battle State? Apparently. What?
26:53
Apparently, that's what Flipplane Chat is
26:55
saying. Unprecedented
26:58
times. Anyway, we can move on to our next
27:00
topic. They
27:03
said they wouldn't DMCA him. I
27:07
mean. Cool? That's
27:12
weird. I don't know what that means. Okay.
27:14
But anyways. Do
27:17
you wanna talk about Mozilla blasting dating apps?
27:19
This one's really interesting to me. Yeah, according
27:21
to a- As if we're into the dating
27:23
apps. Yeah, we're both
27:25
very active in this realm. According
27:27
to a recent report with Mozilla,
27:29
dating apps are growing increasingly aggressive
27:31
and invasive when it comes to
27:34
collecting users' personal information, having declined
27:36
significantly since the last time Mozilla
27:38
reviewed their privacy practices in 2021.
27:41
Around 80% of the apps reviewed
27:43
share or sell personal
27:46
information and do not guarantee users'
27:48
right to delete their data. Most apps
27:50
requires users to opt out of precision
27:52
geolocation tracking and do not appear to
27:54
adequately protect the data that they collect.
27:57
At least one Catholic group was able
27:59
to- out a priest
28:01
after buying Grindr, Scruff, and
28:03
OkCupid user data. Grindr
28:06
is also facing a class
28:08
action lawsuit alleging that it
28:10
unlawfully shared UK users HIV
28:12
status with vendors, something
28:16
which Grindr admitted to doing,
28:19
though it denies doing so for
28:21
commercial purposes. What? What?
28:25
You just
28:27
did it because you thought it would be fun? Like,
28:30
what? Due to
28:32
the nature of dating apps, much
28:34
of this information can be incredibly
28:36
personal and revealing, including religious affiliations,
28:38
political beliefs, and sexual history. These
28:41
companies also automatically aggregate information from
28:43
users, devices, social media, third parties,
28:45
and the metadata of uploaded content
28:47
like photos. Match Group,
28:49
who own over 40 dating apps
28:51
including Tinder, Hinge, Match, and OkCupid,
28:53
say that private DMs are scanned
28:55
by automated tools and may be
28:57
reviewed by human agents if the
28:59
bot flags potential illegal or
29:01
unsafe behavior. However, DMs are
29:04
also reviewed in
29:06
order to evaluate, train, and improve
29:08
their automated tools. Okay,
29:11
this one blew my mind because
29:13
basically if they left it at
29:15
the beginning, if they left it at, okay,
29:17
there's something potentially unsafe here, it has to
29:19
be reviewed by a moderator, you
29:21
know what? I kind of get that because inherent
29:23
to a dating app, you're going to
29:26
have monstrous things happening.
29:28
You're going to have human trafficking potentially, you know,
29:30
like you, oh yeah, these platforms do
29:32
have to be moderated to at least some degree.
29:36
However, saying,
29:38
look, we can review basically
29:40
anything we want for
29:43
the purpose of evaluating, training,
29:46
and improving our automated tools, that's
29:48
basically saying, yeah, it's like selling
29:50
a camera. It's like,
29:52
yeah, I'll just tune
29:55
into it whenever I feel like it. Cool?
29:58
Cool. Like, I... I haven't
30:01
used a dating app before, so I'm
30:03
going to sound potentially kind of out
30:05
of touch here, but I don't
30:10
imagine that this is clear to the
30:12
user when they sign up for this
30:14
thing. Like, guys, are
30:16
you on one of these
30:19
platforms? Was it clear
30:21
that they might be collecting and
30:23
sharing your sexual history and any
30:27
infections you might have? Or,
30:30
man, reading your
30:32
DMs? Yo! Like,
30:35
what? I've heard tell that some of
30:37
the younger generations are trying
30:40
to go back to more
30:42
archaic versions of dating, skipping the whole dating
30:44
app thing, which I think is fantastic.
30:47
Very good job. Keep going. Wow.
30:51
It's buried in the TOS, I'm sure. Yeah, a lot of people
30:53
are not saying. These
30:56
apps have also become significantly
30:58
more gamified and addictive, in
31:01
part to cope with declining revenues and
31:03
market share. As millennials have
31:05
gotten older and settled down, Gen
31:07
Z users have become the largest population
31:09
of singles. However, they are typically less
31:11
interested in hookups and casual dating than
31:13
previous generations. Did I just get slut-shamed?
31:15
I think so. I
31:17
think our whole generation did. Which,
31:20
you know, sounds probably about accurate. You
31:23
know what? Pre-love, man. Yeah,
31:26
man. Yeah. The discussion question, is
31:28
there an inherent problem having
31:30
platforms involved in something as intimate
31:33
as personal dating? I
31:35
don't think it has to be. But
31:38
it looks like it obviously is. No, I think if
31:41
you respect – yeah, if you respect user data,
31:44
then no, it shouldn't be a problem.
31:46
You should – If
31:50
you just make it so that you can't raid DMs
31:52
unless you're like basically – The way is brutal. Yeah.
31:54
I don't know why it's so delayed. You're not that
31:56
far away. But I'm noticing the same thing.
32:00
If it would
32:02
be nice if they couldn't read any DMS
32:04
unless one of the users involved flagged the
32:06
conversation That
32:09
would that would make cool in floatplane chat
32:11
says when I was at This
32:14
place we had a presentation by tinder
32:16
execs on data usage and
32:18
getting to profitability and it was
32:20
a very creepy conversation Yeah,
32:25
I don't I don't doubt that I
32:27
don't doubt that at all but but
32:30
like this really does seem like the kind
32:32
of thing that could be done and It's
32:35
it's just it's just
32:37
people you know power corrupts absolute power
32:39
corrupts absolutely or whatever, right? Like because
32:42
people who enter personal information in a
32:44
dating app compared to a political survey
32:47
or compared to You
32:49
know a workplace Profile
32:51
survey or something like that Assuming
32:54
that they have an
32:56
earnest Desire to find
32:59
a partner. I was
33:01
reading about how people will answer
33:04
questions much more honestly and transparently
33:07
because By hiding it
33:09
they all they're the only person they're
33:11
hurting is themselves and so All
33:14
they had to do was say okay And
33:17
our service is to pair you up with
33:19
someone and you pay us for that and
33:22
we don't have to have growth forever We don't have
33:24
to have limitless growth. I at
33:28
risk of sounding like Like
33:31
like like an anti-capitalist man,
33:34
the the and the Enshitification
33:37
of everything just does seem inevitable
33:39
when you have this mindset of
33:41
needing growth forever Yeah,
33:43
yeah, I Understand it
33:45
to a much greater degree now, but especially when
33:48
I was younger. I would I
33:50
would come across a news article. That's like Big
33:53
company X has missed
33:56
their their estimated earnings
33:58
that the share that
34:00
analysts were expecting from them by
34:03
two cents per share
34:05
and their stock price tumbled 10%. In
34:08
other news, they made $10 billion
34:11
this quarter. I
34:14
would listen to that and be like, sorry, what? They
34:17
make hundreds of millions or they make a billion
34:20
dollars or billions of dollars in this
34:22
time period, but they didn't do as
34:25
good ever as we expected and that
34:27
we were gambling on that
34:29
we had kind of priced into their
34:32
gamble-a-tron share price. So
34:35
what? They need to do a bunch of
34:37
stock buybacks? Who announced huge, huge
34:40
stock buybacks just now? I forget
34:42
who it was, but
34:45
their share price, I think it was Google. I've
34:48
done this until I find it. Google
34:50
surges after buying back billions of dollars
34:53
of its own stock a day ago,
34:55
$70 billion. Do
34:58
you know why a company buys back stock? There's
35:01
two potential reasons. One is they're expecting
35:04
it to go up a lot and
35:06
so that could be good value
35:08
to own more of their company if they're super
35:10
confident they're going to do awesome. But do you
35:12
know the real reason they do it? I've
35:15
had a- Their share price goes up. The
35:23
personal investments that the executives have in
35:25
that company and that the shareholders have
35:27
in that company go up. It's just
35:29
to enrich them personally. When
35:32
you look at a company like Google over the last
35:34
year or so, what were the big bumps to their
35:36
stock? Laying off a bunch of employees
35:39
and using that money to
35:41
buy back a bunch of stock. I
35:44
was talking about this on the pre-show, but I was
35:46
watching the John Oliver bit on Boeing. Really
35:50
fascinating. You can basically
35:53
trace back their decline into
35:55
crappiness to the moment that
35:58
they started spending their money on stock buybacks. instead
36:00
of on making a good product. Why
36:03
don't we have systems? Why
36:05
don't companies implement systems that
36:08
punish terrible, terrible
36:11
long-term thinking? I don't understand
36:13
it guys. Yeah, I
36:15
always had this theory that maybe not stock buybacks
36:17
to the tune of 70 billion dollars, but I
36:20
always had this theory that smaller
36:22
size stock buybacks were based
36:24
around a lot of
36:27
companies do stock as compensation. So how do
36:29
you just keep doing that forever? So you
36:31
probably have to buy some of your own
36:33
stock and then it makes this cyclical thing
36:35
where you're increasing the value of your stock
36:37
by buying your stock and then giving stock
36:40
to your employees which increases how much they
36:42
want to potentially stay or try hard or
36:44
whatever. If that even works, who knows? A
36:46
little more complicated than that. You can issue
36:48
more stock without necessarily buying the stock.
36:52
Does that dilute the value of the stock that you currently
36:54
have though? Because
36:56
you added more.
36:59
I genuinely don't know. Yeah.
37:01
Every company works a little bit
37:04
differently. If
37:07
Yvonne Umbrella Corporation group of
37:09
companies had some kind of
37:11
stock program, I
37:13
personally would feel that we should take a
37:17
Bitcoin-like approach where
37:19
not necessarily that you use GPUs or
37:21
ASICs to mint more of the stock.
37:23
I just like the stock. That's why
37:25
I buy all these GPUs. So
37:28
not from that point of view, but from the
37:30
point of view that they are finite and
37:33
in order to issue incentives, for
37:35
example, we would have to actually
37:37
be profitable.
37:39
We'd have to actually own what we give someone.
37:43
I don't know how that would work and maybe
37:45
I'm just naive, but from my point
37:47
of view, it's always been frustrating
37:49
to me that if I
37:53
have something that's worth a value that
37:56
someone can just like decide, oh yeah,
37:59
no, actually. Actually it's like less than that. Yeah.
38:04
Not financial advice guys. Not
38:07
financial advice. I'll be the first
38:09
to admit that when it comes
38:11
to stocks, when it comes to
38:13
real world finance stuff,
38:20
I don't get it and I think part of it
38:23
is almost just like a
38:25
rejection of it. Like I actually not sure if
38:27
I care to get it. I don't
38:29
have to play the game so maybe I
38:31
just won't. Maybe I'll take my ball and go
38:33
home. I know that's the
38:35
majority of it for me. I
38:37
hate it. It just feels so... Yeah,
38:41
I'm not going to get into all the reasons why.
38:44
We'll get to a new topic.
38:46
EV company blows whistle on potential
38:48
corruption. This is one
38:50
that hits genuinely close to
38:52
actual home. The
38:54
government of British Columbia, Canada
38:56
is investigating allegations of potential
38:58
conflicts of interest in how
39:00
provincial low carbon innovation grants
39:03
are administered. This
39:05
follows an allegation from CEO
39:07
Chase Barber of Edison Motors
39:09
who claims that MNP, a
39:12
gigantic accounting firm involved in
39:14
administering grants, reached out to
39:16
his company after declining their
39:19
first application. According
39:24
to... Let's build the doc together
39:26
a little quickly today folks. Yeah,
39:28
it's genuinely not their fault. I'm just
39:30
trying to piece it together. By
39:32
the way, just a quick shout out
39:34
Edison Motors. These guys are doing absolutely
39:36
incredible work. If anyone from Edison
39:38
is watching right now, we would love to do a
39:41
video together. That would be sick. I think actually Alex
39:43
from our team may be in touch but just want
39:45
to indicate my super willingness
39:49
to come over there and check out what you
39:51
guys are doing because it's outstanding. It looks
39:53
absolutely incredible. That would be awesome. According
39:56
to Barber, rolling back just
39:58
because it's been a little bit, the CEO of Edison Motors Edison
40:00
Motors. MNP offered Edison Motors
40:02
a service to help them apply
40:04
for future grants which included a
40:07
success fee of 20% of
40:09
the grant's value. Ew. Should the application
40:15
succeed? It's unclear from publicly available
40:17
information whether these grants included the
40:19
ones that MNP was helping administer.
40:21
I'm gonna pause, there's more of
40:23
this topic, but I've heard of
40:25
this a lot before with government
40:27
grants where they're effectively impossible to
40:29
get unless you partner with a
40:31
company who takes a significant portion
40:33
of the money which means that
40:35
your government tax credits which are
40:37
supposed to power innovation
40:39
and business growth within your country are
40:43
being diluted by middlemen that is
40:46
the only way to actually get them. Well the
40:48
business of being a worthless middleman is a business,
40:50
they're growing that business. We should
40:52
find a way to delete all of them. Anyways
40:55
I'm going to move on. Barbara
40:58
says that he raised concerns with the Energy
41:01
Ministry in person and shortly
41:03
after his company was disinvited
41:05
from a promotional event
41:07
by a government-funded lobby
41:09
group for vehicle electrification.
41:11
Edison Motors is the only
41:13
company in the province that manufactures
41:16
heavy-duty electric trucks. MNP
41:18
has threatened to sue Edison Motors which is a small privately owned
41:20
company. According
41:28
to Barbara the company can't afford a legal
41:30
battle with a billion dollar company. Neither
41:34
could like most people so I don't
41:37
blame them. Ann
41:40
stated that he personally lives with his
41:42
parents because as far as my understanding
41:45
goes he has invested like everything he
41:47
can into the company which is the
41:49
like driven dedicated.
41:51
That's what we should be
41:53
trying to encourage. Yes. That's
41:55
what we should want out of entrepreneurs. Edison
41:57
Motors has been doing everything that it takes
41:59
to kill it and we should be supporting that. They've
42:02
been pushing limits of technology, they've been pushing
42:04
limits of quality, they've been doing all these
42:06
things that like, like we, British Columbia should
42:08
be very proud of this company and be
42:10
trying to prop them up, not trying to
42:12
step on their neck. So this is very
42:15
frustrating. We've got a couple discussion questions.
42:17
Even if MNP hasn't technically done anything
42:19
wrong, shouldn't Edison Motors be allowed to
42:22
raise concerns without the threat of a
42:24
company crushing lawsuit? Yeah,
42:27
absolutely. I mean, you should be able to
42:29
raise concerns about anything ever. And the
42:32
worst case scenario should be, you know,
42:34
hey, we've, we've investigated your concerns and
42:36
we don't agree with them. Like
42:39
you can't be punished for,
42:42
for real. I mean, honestly, though, there's so
42:44
many things that are like this. I mean,
42:47
the US is finally growing a spine
42:49
about the whole realtor thing, how
42:51
difficult it is to sell a home without
42:53
a realtor and how, how those
42:56
fees have absolutely ballooned in recent
42:58
decades to the point where the
43:01
simple job of being a sales
43:03
rep and helping you list
43:05
your house and fill out
43:07
some paperwork has turned people
43:09
into these multi gazillionaires. And
43:11
to be clear, I'm not down on anyone
43:14
who's busting their butt as a realtor. I
43:16
understand that it's one of those skills that's
43:18
there being a streamer. Yeah, where where the
43:21
the 1% that are
43:24
crushing it are sort of overrepresented in
43:26
our in our perception, but actually, most
43:28
of them are struggling to sell a
43:30
house. Whereas those few that are
43:33
succeeding have, you know, a team of people working
43:35
for them. And they're basically just parasitically
43:37
taking money from them. I
43:41
get that. But also just the
43:43
business of being a middleman should be
43:47
fine. But it
43:49
shouldn't be this lucrative. And you
43:51
know what, Luke, I, I
43:53
don't want to get too much into it. But
43:55
we've as a company, had experiences
43:58
that strike me Oh, yeah. Not
44:00
that dissimilar to this. Oh yeah, I've directly
44:02
been involved with some of them. Yeah.
44:07
And none of this should be necessary. You
44:09
should be able to fill out the paperwork
44:11
the right way and
44:13
submit your application according to the
44:15
process that is on your government's
44:17
website, and it should be processed
44:19
in priority sequence, and
44:21
then it should be dealt with. Okay,
44:25
you know what? Fine, I'm saying it. Yvonne is
44:27
still chasing some kind of credit that we've
44:29
been due since, I think, 2018. Well,
44:34
what? I'm sure if
44:36
we knew someone, that wouldn't be the case.
44:38
And the biggest problem with that, because if
44:40
you're hearing this, yes, that's a very, very,
44:42
very, very, very long delay. That is pretty
44:45
ridiculous. It's 2024 now. That's six years. The
44:48
biggest impact of that to me is
44:50
not something that we necessarily even felt
44:52
that much, which is if you're
44:54
not as... That was when we needed
44:56
the money. Exactly. We're still here six
44:58
years later. We needed it then.
45:01
Yes. If you're a smaller
45:03
startup company, you
45:06
need everything you can possibly get, because you
45:08
don't have a lot of assets yet. You
45:11
don't have a significant amount of cash flow
45:13
yet, probably. All these other
45:15
things. You need that capital to be able
45:17
to keep progressing. So by holding it for
45:19
this long and making it so hard to
45:21
get, what you're
45:23
really doing is only enabling
45:26
large companies to be
45:28
able to get this
45:30
money, which
45:32
in a lot of cases they probably
45:34
didn't even really need. It
45:37
might benefit them. They might be able to do a little bit
45:39
more from it, but they probably didn't need it. And
45:41
the companies that really needed it, it could have
45:44
made or break their whole company, and then they'd
45:46
be fine after that, are generally unable to get
45:48
it. So very
45:52
frustrating. Shout out Edison Motors. These guys are
45:54
doing super cool stuff. We'd love
45:57
to collab with them and see if we can get
45:59
them some much needed attention. attention, see if they can
46:01
invest in business their way. Honestly, what I suspect is
46:04
that their bottleneck, because the product is super cool,
46:06
what I suspect is that their bottleneck is more
46:08
just capital, which is probably
46:10
why this is so frustrating
46:12
for them. I'm speculating right now, but
46:15
when your tech is that cool, I
46:18
suspect it's production capacity that's holding them back
46:20
right now, not having a cool product. My
46:22
grandpa used to work in financing four semi
46:25
trucks. These
46:28
things are expensive. I'm sure
46:30
a new company trying to get into the space isn't
46:32
going to be able to produce an enormous
46:35
amount of them all the time. There's
46:38
a lot of
46:41
cost involved. Sponsor
46:43
time? All right. Do you
46:45
want me to hit these? Yeah, let's
46:47
do that, but we've got a bit of a scary merch update.
46:50
Are we supposed to do some merch messages? Sorry,
46:54
we'll get those after sponsors, I think. Okay,
46:58
let's do it. Luke's going to do it
47:00
today because my brain is bad. Yeah, yeah,
47:02
yeah. Okay. AG1, starting with
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47:44
here at LMG have tried or even use
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partner not compatible with you? I
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think I have a theme today. Get rid
48:21
of them? What is this?
48:23
Ridge has something more compatible for you. Their
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new MagSafe compatible wallet and then I'm supposed
48:28
to show how this works. Oh, I'm supposed
48:30
to go to, I don't think I actually
48:32
have one for this. How do I fix
48:35
this? Just do luke cam. Luke cam, three
48:37
overlay. There we go. I have a phone.
48:40
I have a Ridge wallet. I combine.
48:44
I have a phone and Ridge wallet and it
48:46
sticks to it. This is an old meme. Wow.
48:49
Hey, yeah, I wasn't even doing that intentionally, but that
48:51
is a, I have a pineapple
48:53
and an Apple pen or something. Something like that?
48:56
Yeah, sure. I don't remember how it goes. There's an adapter
48:58
too? There's an adapter. Yeah. Okay.
49:00
So there's, yeah, there's some 3M tape on
49:02
the back. I'm assuming you just peel this
49:05
off, stick it onto whatever phone you have
49:07
and then voila.
49:11
It is now stuck. Okay.
49:14
Moving on. They use strong magnets embedded
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into the wallet to securely attach to
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the... Help me, bro. Kind
49:23
of need more than that. They
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use strong magnets embedded into
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the wallet to securely attach to the
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back of any MagSafe compatible iPhone. And
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for a stronger hold, why not try
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using their strengthening tray? Not
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to attach your wallet to any device. They
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are built in premium materials like aluminum to
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they just like their other wallets. They're
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That one is missing. Alright, cool.
51:13
Thanks, Luke. That was a good sponsor
51:15
read. I have some good news. Mr.
51:18
Matt from our procurement team says,
51:21
Hey, Dan, want to tell Linus we're getting
51:23
ready to go with Edison Motors? Waiting
51:25
on the weather to get better before going up the Coca-Cola
51:27
highway and going to check them out? Oh,
51:29
let's go. I love their shorts. That's great.
51:31
Yeah, that's how I found them too, actually.
51:34
Yeah, super cool. I didn't know they were
51:36
from here originally, and that's amazing. Yeah. I
51:40
ended up deep diving a little bit after I found one of
51:42
their shorts and then figured out they were from here, which is
51:44
pretty cool. I think we need to do some announcements. Do
51:47
we have a... is there store stuff
51:49
or anything? Yeah. Merch, yeah. Yeah,
51:51
we do. We have a date for
51:54
the screwdriver bit set pricing increase. Oh,
51:57
good lord. Okay, I warned you guys about this a little while ago,
51:59
but... There's not much warning
52:01
here. They're going up starting Monday,
52:03
April 29th. So if you
52:05
want to get some screwdriver vidsets, they're going from $6.99, which
52:09
apparently is not profitable, so cool,
52:12
to $9.99, which apparently
52:14
is better. Thank
52:18
you, CEO Taren. So
52:22
make sure you get those at $6.99 while you can.
52:26
They're going to be going up on Monday, April 29th. We
52:29
also have restocks of some of our graphic keys,
52:31
including the neon hard drive, sensor,
52:34
and retro GPU. I have no way of screen
52:36
sharing with you guys, so you might just have
52:38
to kind of imagine what those look like. But
52:41
if you want to send a merch message, those might be
52:43
some things you want to pick up. I
52:45
need a nap before I go to this party tonight, though, so I
52:47
don't know if we're going to get to every merch message. But yeah,
52:50
we'll definitely try and do a few. Luke,
52:53
Luke Week. What is Luke Week? Luke
52:57
Week, yeah. We're doing something special on full
52:59
play next week, and it's all about me,
53:01
I guess. We will have a few me-centric
53:04
videos, including the iconic chicken recipe. No, no,
53:06
no, no, no. No, no, if we're going
53:08
to have Luke Week, we need Linus Week.
53:12
Yeah. And I hear... No, I understand your argument. Every
53:14
week is Linus Week, and you know what? That's fair,
53:16
but I think we can all agree. There's no such
53:18
thing as too much Linus Week. No,
53:20
I think we should... Is
53:23
it Ashley? No,
53:26
no, I'm totally kidding. It's just funny that after
53:28
all these years, we have Luke Week. All
53:31
you had to wait was 10 and a half years.
53:34
On a platform that he's in charge of. Hey, whoa,
53:36
whoa, whoa, whoa. So the whole idea is that... Luke
53:38
literally was the inventor. He was
53:40
the inventor of Brandon Appreciation Day, and
53:42
it's taken him all these years to
53:44
get his own appreciation week. It's
53:48
not an appreciation week. My goodness.
53:50
There's going to be other people as well. It's not
53:53
just me. I didn't choose that it was me that
53:55
started this. I
53:58
don't know. I just... Yeah, I knew your ego was... Oh
54:00
my goodness take off at some point. I was asked
54:03
and I just didn't say no You've
54:05
got one chicken recipe. Okay, you're not a god
54:15
There's a video where I cook and talk
54:17
about the chicken recipe and I get I
54:19
get already to try it There's
54:21
my thoughts on the gaming industry and
54:24
a video of meeting my
54:26
birds. So there's three videos coming So
54:30
your haul passes already Yeah,
54:33
so the whole like yeah,
54:36
that's a little weird Don't
54:38
worry about it because the chicken
54:40
recipe it has a 100% success rate.
54:42
So I thought about this and I think I think
54:46
For it to be a success
54:49
or a failure. There has to be a goal
54:52
applied So there was
54:54
no goal applied with already. So I think we're fine I
54:58
See, okay. Yeah, I think
55:00
I think we're good And
55:03
then I guess I guess we have a teaser. Here's
55:05
a teaser of what to expect next week. So
55:07
Dan can you Play audio
55:09
from my screen Yes,
55:11
if you want to go I'm there. I'm not
55:14
getting any audio from you. Oh, it's not playing
55:16
yet. Here we go There we go. Yeah Okay,
55:19
hold on hold on hold on. Oh Oh,
55:23
is it not working? Yeah, it's 2002 I
55:25
approached the desk at the rental store with
55:28
a freshly minted copy of the Elder Scrolls
55:30
3 More after
55:32
handing over my change and scurrying
55:34
home. I proceed to play for
55:36
roughly 24 hours straight more Captivated
55:38
by this finely crafted world than
55:40
anything I had seen in my
55:42
entire Half years
55:45
you got me. Yeah. Wait, is
55:47
it it's just audio. Okay. No
55:52
We're starting over. All right. I approached
55:54
the desk at the rental store with
55:56
a freshly minted copy of the Elder
55:58
Scrolls 3 More flawless. After
56:01
handing over my change and scurrying home, I
56:03
proceed to play for roughly 24 hours straight,
56:06
more captivated by this finely crafted
56:08
world than anything I had seen
56:11
in my entire 11
56:13
and a half years of life. Even boobs.
56:15
I woke my dad up the next morning by
56:18
professing my love of this game and begging him
56:20
to buy a real copy of it to replace
56:22
my rental version. To my surprise,
56:24
he agreed. My dad and I would take
56:26
turns playing on a shared save file where
56:29
one of us would read through the player's
56:31
guide and direct the other who would control
56:33
the character. These are some
56:35
of my favorite gaming memories ever. We
56:38
use that player's guide so much it
56:40
barely holds together at this point. The
56:42
cover has been missing for decades. I
56:44
was driven into software development because I
56:46
wanted to work for Bethesda, for Todd
56:48
Howard. I wanted to make things like
56:50
Morrowind, this piece of art that means
56:52
so much to me. To say this
56:54
is my favorite game ever would be
56:56
an understatement. Fast
56:58
forward 21 years to Starfield's release
57:01
and I tried with every fiber of my
57:03
being to find that diamond in the rough
57:05
but it just wasn't fair. Okay,
57:10
I thought that was going to be a shorter clip. But
57:14
essentially I- Wow, that was pretty long. Wow,
57:16
Luke Week apparently takes an entire week. Yeah,
57:18
apparently, yeah. It
57:22
also changes significantly from there but I end
57:24
up talking about how Starfield
57:26
sucked but I'm not going to go through all the
57:28
details as to why because that's
57:32
been done to death already. Here's
57:34
my thoughts on how the gaming industry
57:36
is going, why it's going that way,
57:39
different companies, yada yada yada. Hopefully
57:42
it's interesting. The people that have seen it so far liked it. Like
57:45
previous themed weeks we will be doing some LTT
57:47
store giveaways that you can sign up for on
57:49
Floatplane so if you want to see that content
57:52
and get some potentially free stuff be sure to
57:54
sign up. And if you want to see what
57:56
else Floatplane has, if you're not on Floatplane for
57:58
whatever reason, we're also releasing- using the car
58:00
break-in prank for 48 hours
58:02
on LMG clips and it's
58:05
live now. Did
58:07
they know the show was starting at 1pm? Is
58:10
it actually live now? Dude, we've been driving
58:12
a lot of subscriptions on floatplane
58:14
lately. Yeah, it is live now. It went
58:16
up 35 minutes ago. We're
58:18
back pretty close to cracking 3500. There's
58:22
apparently extras. Oh, 3500. Oh,
58:24
there's the line for the Linus Tries Influencer Drinks
58:26
video now. 35,000,
58:29
sorry. Yeah, I was just bugging
58:31
you. Yeah,
58:34
floatplane's been rocking it lately. Yeah,
58:37
these places have just been posting. Elijah's got an exclusive talking a
58:39
bit more about the humble PC. Oh,
58:41
nice. That went up two days ago. Yeah,
58:44
there's so much. The 90 Days
58:46
Scorpion Share Challenge video is finally up. That went
58:48
up two days ago as well. Oh, was it
58:50
Elijah week? There's like three
58:52
Elijah exclusives in a row. Either that or the
58:55
social team has just figured out that that guy
58:57
is solid meme gold any time you point a
58:59
camera at him. Yeah, I don't
59:01
think it actually was, but I think it
59:03
just became that anyways,
59:05
which is great. But
59:08
yeah, check that out. Hopefully you guys enjoy it. Let
59:10
us know how it goes. Oh,
59:14
LTT Forum Folding Update. Our team
59:16
is once again participating in the
59:18
Boink Pentathlon, which runs from May
59:20
5th to 19th. We
59:22
strongly encourage anyone interested to participate.
59:24
The LTT team placed third overall
59:26
last year, which was easily our
59:28
best so far. Participation
59:31
is typically quite low since Boink is
59:33
a bit more complex than Folding at
59:35
Home, but people are willing to help
59:37
out if you want to learn. So
59:40
check out more information on the forum,
59:42
which is, I mean, there's a URL for
59:44
it. But if you just look up the
59:46
LTT Forum and Boink Pentathlon 2024, a topic
59:48
made by one of
59:52
our very own moderators, Lead Eater, you
59:54
will find it and it'll be good. And
59:57
you can do stuff. We
1:00:06
can do merge messages. Alright, what's our next topic?
1:00:08
Merge messages. Yeah, just do merge messages. Hello
1:00:10
LDL, have you heard about MRAM and
1:00:12
what do you think it will do
1:00:15
for PC and security due
1:00:17
to its ability to retain the data
1:00:19
when powered off? I
1:00:27
haven't actually particularly heard of this, but
1:00:29
retaining the data when powered off could
1:00:32
be potentially kind of bad. There
1:00:35
was tactics in the past where
1:00:37
you would, I don't remember, was
1:00:39
it like liquid nitrogen or
1:00:42
something? But you would cool
1:00:44
RAM down to very, very, very low temperatures
1:00:46
and then swap what system was in and
1:00:48
then you could pull information out of it.
1:00:51
That was a very interesting... You could
1:00:53
pull potentially really bad information like if
1:00:55
there was a, in
1:00:58
some cases plain text
1:01:00
essentially storage of critical
1:01:02
system information or user input. Yeah,
1:01:05
is it super realistic for people to be
1:01:07
able to get into a computer and like
1:01:10
super freeze its RAM and transfer it over to another
1:01:13
computer? I don't know.
1:01:16
But it was a really cool thing and
1:01:18
if that is now able to be done without
1:01:20
the difficulties of cooling and
1:01:22
whatnot, that could be a little
1:01:25
sketch. But yeah. One
1:01:27
sec here. There we go.
1:01:29
Sorry, I didn't have my double tabs.
1:01:32
I was in the middle of responding to another one.
1:01:35
Hi LLD from France. I want to
1:01:37
buy a cap since the first announcement,
1:01:39
but I think the logo is too
1:01:41
big. How do you choose where
1:01:43
to place a logo and have you considered a
1:01:46
free ad version for a higher price? I
1:01:50
mean, we have pretty subtle logos on a lot
1:01:52
of our stuff. I think they just mean branding
1:01:54
free. No, no, no. Free
1:01:57
ads. Like
1:01:59
giant logo. A
1:02:01
higher price? Yeah, maybe they do mean
1:02:03
ad-free. Yeah. I think they mean ad-free.
1:02:05
Yeah. I appreciate them.
1:02:08
Yeah, okay. Sorry. Yeah,
1:02:10
I think they mean sponsorship stuff free
1:02:12
or branding free. I don't
1:02:14
know. I think, honestly, we generally strike
1:02:16
a pretty good balance. Even on the hat,
1:02:18
yeah, the logo is pretty big, but
1:02:21
it's black. It's
1:02:23
black on black. It doesn't stand out a ton. That's
1:02:27
kind of a thing, right, is wearing a brand
1:02:30
on your baseball cap. I
1:02:34
think the start of that
1:02:36
product was actually people not really buying the
1:02:38
dad hats and a lot of the feedback
1:02:40
that we got being that they weren't obviously
1:02:42
LTT enough. I think
1:02:44
this is just one of those things where you're not going to
1:02:46
be able to please everybody. I really like the new hats. It's
1:02:49
possible that if they sell really well, we will
1:02:51
explore that fit in different styles, but for now,
1:02:54
we're really focused on the regular LTT hat and
1:02:56
the LTT hat pro. Yeah,
1:03:00
fair enough. Okay, and last one for
1:03:02
this section. Howdy, guys. Curious
1:03:04
your take on the EPA
1:03:06
regulations causing automakers to make
1:03:08
changes that may negatively impact
1:03:11
reliability, examples being Toyota's new
1:03:13
direction with turbocharged engines. Man,
1:03:20
regulation is one of those things. You can't
1:03:22
really think, you can't live without it. I
1:03:26
don't know the right answers here. Sometimes
1:03:29
it's really obvious. Hey,
1:03:32
you actually cannot discriminate against
1:03:34
your customer. As stupid as
1:03:36
they look, those broadband nutritional
1:03:38
facts things in the
1:03:40
States make a ton of sense given
1:03:42
how predatory that industry has been in the past.
1:03:47
It's obvious that sometimes we end
1:03:49
up with regulation that harming consumers
1:03:51
rather than helping. Man,
1:03:54
I was reading about another car, one that
1:03:57
was to do with all electric targets or
1:03:59
something like that. Was it was
1:04:01
looking pretty ridiculous to to
1:04:03
be clear, i'm I'm, I'm
1:04:05
pro. You know, sustainable energy
1:04:07
or whatever, but just. In.
1:04:10
The signing a law and saying
1:04:12
okay, go innovate, Good luck everybody.
1:04:17
Is Not. Is. Not the move. Via.
1:04:24
The. I don't. we have a lot add
1:04:26
their it just it just sucks like I'm
1:04:28
planned obsolescence as it is a terrible thing
1:04:30
and making things like almost intensely unreliable is
1:04:33
bad but at the same time you don't.
1:04:35
You don't want to stifle a company from
1:04:37
being able to make like a. Bleeding.
1:04:40
Edge version of something Aura or an
1:04:42
ultra high performance version of something that
1:04:44
that just has to lose some of
1:04:46
it's reliability in order to to push
1:04:48
those limits. So. And
1:04:50
are no. I.
1:04:53
Just became aware of a
1:04:55
controversy. Apparently the edit of
1:04:57
our Linus tries influencer foods.
1:04:59
ah pushes pretty aggressively to
1:05:01
the flood plain exclusive where
1:05:03
I try more of them.
1:05:05
Ah, I haven't watched the
1:05:07
video. unfortunately. I do review
1:05:09
every Ltt by don't review
1:05:11
every short circuit. The people
1:05:13
seemed pretty upset. Ah, I'm.
1:05:16
A Basically, you know what? I'm tired of
1:05:18
just taking responsibility for everything I didn't see.
1:05:20
this. So hope
1:05:23
yeah I will. I will message the appropriate
1:05:25
people internally and will try and find a
1:05:27
better balance. Hopefully. We can put
1:05:29
this behind us. Is it that I've
1:05:31
seen it? Have
1:05:33
you actually watch the Not sure. Merit.
1:05:39
Ah this video was a sixty minute ad for
1:05:41
floatplane. I don't know I like again I haven't
1:05:43
watched it but you also that sort of seem
1:05:45
to be my content. Here are
1:05:47
entirely on where you ripped off. I.
1:05:50
Don't. The. Sultan deceiving.
1:05:54
Ah, Or
1:05:56
a while. Yeah, I'll I'll I'll I'll take this
1:05:58
to the people internally who. This call and
1:06:00
our meal will find that the sorted out
1:06:03
but thing as we are up. In.
1:06:05
We're not a big company, but we are a
1:06:07
big enough company that. Believe. It or
1:06:09
not not, everyone knows absolutely everything that's going
1:06:11
on all the time and sometimes you know
1:06:13
we're gonna make a judgment call. It's not
1:06:16
going to be right. I think it's pretty
1:06:18
clear that the community has spoken. they sang
1:06:20
the says this is not right This are
1:06:22
so we'll We'll we'll. We'll. Do
1:06:24
what we can look at. The sex Okay
1:06:26
thanks guys. Ah,
1:06:33
Didn't know. murmurs business. Okay,
1:06:38
Is hop with the rational explanations. I want to
1:06:40
be angry. And
1:06:42
I took out a D S People Talk on
1:06:44
Reddit. No loss of
1:06:46
area to sell my soul if you
1:06:49
die if you got something I got
1:06:51
a sodium deficiency have destroyed their you
1:06:53
get to see if you'll be taken
1:06:55
care of entirely. Nintendo Issues Take downs
1:06:57
over Gary's mod contents: Following community members
1:07:00
noticing that Nintendo related same content was
1:07:02
being removed from Gary's mod, Gary Numan
1:07:04
has confirmed that Cease Punch has received
1:07:06
a take down notice from Nintendo. Quote:
1:07:09
If you want to help us by
1:07:11
deleting your Nintendo related uploads and never
1:07:13
uploading a guest stuff with sofa so.
1:07:15
Forth. Ah,
1:07:19
your vision gary. Or
1:07:21
they're almost twenty years worth of
1:07:23
uploads for Gary's mod workshops, including
1:07:25
sixty five hundred items if you
1:07:27
just search for the word Mario.
1:07:29
While ah, there were rumors that
1:07:31
the notice was fake, potentially caused
1:07:33
by force copyright trolls, but according
1:07:36
to Gary, response has confirmed the
1:07:38
veracity of the notice with Nintendo.
1:07:40
And then there's a speech of
1:07:42
a tweet saying ah, I have
1:07:44
been around and acts or whatever
1:07:46
the heck animals are, I have
1:07:48
been. Assured that the take downs
1:07:50
have been verified by Nintendo as
1:07:52
widgets so this will now continue
1:07:54
as planned sorry And then. I.
1:07:57
Don't even know the a modi said he included. It's
1:08:00
like a bad I bought an hour. And.
1:08:02
I were like a foot or anything
1:08:04
garbage can. Then. A mushroom
1:08:06
so those those ones are like or it sounds good.
1:08:08
Guards can mushroom and then I don't know what the
1:08:11
hell a thing as a Us ah I'm. To.
1:08:13
Be clear, Nintendo is well within their
1:08:15
rights here. This is yeah, intellectual property
1:08:18
in this case the at that The
1:08:20
likeness you know of Mario is absolutely
1:08:22
something that's within their it. Sort of
1:08:25
baffling to me that a gaming company
1:08:27
managed to go twenty years without noticing
1:08:29
Gary's mod. Ah, I'm ill.
1:08:31
maybe that's part of what makes didn't handle
1:08:33
different Said they just why they don't look
1:08:35
at other games they don't have. No.
1:08:38
One who works there has a gaping computers by
1:08:40
test out of know it's easy working for them
1:08:42
for him for them pretty good on. I can
1:08:44
definitely see how this is really frustrating for people
1:08:46
that are like yeah we can. I just thought
1:08:48
this was okay. it had been. Twenty.
1:08:50
Years ah of. Art
1:08:55
Our discussion questions: should there be some kind of
1:08:58
statute of limitations when it comes to brands not
1:09:00
protecting their Ip? I believe there actually are, but
1:09:02
I don't think that that would be covered in
1:09:04
this case, that it would all come down to
1:09:06
the law of the various lands. That
1:09:09
are involves. I think Gary is taking
1:09:11
an extremely bitter approach and the outraged
1:09:13
gamers who are frustrated with Nintendo's action
1:09:16
by all means be frustrated with Nintendo.
1:09:18
They are kind of jerk wad sometimes,
1:09:20
but this is within their rights and
1:09:22
our Gary is right to comply with.
1:09:27
Yeah, right. Speaking of things that
1:09:29
ah, the have to do with,
1:09:32
right? No, it doesn't Her celebrity
1:09:34
with high net Neutrality is back.
1:09:36
Fcc votes to restore Obama era
1:09:39
rules repealed under Trump. Ftc voted
1:09:41
three to two to restore rules
1:09:43
that prevent internet providers from favoring
1:09:45
some sites and apps over others,
1:09:48
reserving high speeds for those willing
1:09:50
to pay more for them or
1:09:52
otherwise interfering with what consumers do
1:09:54
online. Ahead of the vote, Fcc
1:09:57
Chairwoman Jessica. Rosen
1:09:59
worse off. Okay
1:10:01
for the rates are seated. In
1:10:03
our post Pandemic world's we know
1:10:06
that broadband is a necessity, not
1:10:08
a luxury. Opponents claim it will
1:10:10
still innovation and investment in the
1:10:13
bought broadband industries. Supporters argue that
1:10:15
without such regulations, broadband providers are
1:10:17
incentivized to charge customers more to
1:10:20
use internet fast lanes before four
1:10:22
hundred page draft order has not
1:10:24
yet been publicly released. I
1:10:30
will. I will say, I don't
1:10:32
think I heard of a ton
1:10:34
of things happening as a result
1:10:36
of the repeal of these rules,
1:10:38
but I think I'm pretty happy
1:10:40
that they may be coming back
1:10:42
so. Yeah. This
1:10:44
is great, Others a seal. other really important
1:10:46
ones. I wanna make sure that we hit
1:10:49
here like this is. Actually I'm a big
1:10:51
week for news. Ah tic toc As low
1:10:53
as we talked about this of the beginning
1:10:55
congress's the Us Congress has passed a law
1:10:57
getting ticked off tech company Bite Dance until
1:11:00
January of next year to sell the app
1:11:02
or it will be blocked from us app
1:11:04
stores and internet service providers. Is this what
1:11:06
it would take for I phone users. To.
1:11:09
Finally say. Hey.
1:11:11
We need to be able to side load. Is
1:11:14
this what it would take to make
1:11:16
the I phone uncool with Jens ease
1:11:18
and gentle says if you couldn't put
1:11:20
Tic Toc on it because there's no
1:11:22
way to side load an app and
1:11:24
Tic Toc isn't in the app store
1:11:26
or anyone to. This forced divestment was
1:11:28
passed as part of a large foreign
1:11:30
aid package target that Ukraine, Israel, and
1:11:32
Taiwan by Dance has promised to fight
1:11:34
the legislation in court, calling it an
1:11:36
unconstitutional infringement on American uses free Speech
1:11:38
rights. Sources inside the company of told
1:11:40
Reuters that like dense leadership would rather
1:11:43
tic Tacs down. Then sell it. I
1:11:45
honestly think Tennessee that's like this is my ball
1:11:47
I'm going to play with that are gone home
1:11:49
The take it with me. A major reason lawmakers
1:11:51
game for the decision to forced by dance to
1:11:53
divest from tic toc is the lack of a
1:11:55
barrier between the Chinese government and Chinese companies. as
1:11:58
a social security and privacy experts expressed concern,
1:12:00
both that the app could be used to
1:12:02
access sensitive user information and that its algorithm
1:12:04
could be used to manipulate public opinion about
1:12:07
the CCP. I
1:12:09
guess what I'm asking is, why
1:12:11
aren't you forcing Facebook to
1:12:13
sell to, to who even?
1:12:15
I don't know. Or Twitter to
1:12:18
sell to who even? I don't know. Like
1:12:20
if basically your concern in a
1:12:22
nutshell is that there's an entity
1:12:24
controlling this app that you can't
1:12:26
control and that could tune
1:12:29
its algorithm for its own purposes. I
1:12:32
don't know, man. Like I'm not, I'm not exactly pro China.
1:12:36
That entity is specifically another country because
1:12:39
I see where you're going and I do think you're entirely right.
1:12:42
But I think they're like, Ooh, this is,
1:12:44
this is, uh, what
1:12:47
is it foreign foreign national interference or
1:12:49
whatever? I don't know the term
1:12:51
for it, but I think it's something
1:12:54
that they're fighting against. Um,
1:12:57
who do you want to see by it? Is I
1:12:59
discussion question in,
1:13:02
I really, can I say the brackets? Can I say
1:13:04
the brackets? Sure. In
1:13:07
brackets, it says, don't say Elon. I
1:13:12
mean, if you hate tech talk, maybe you will. I was
1:13:15
going to say, I kind of wanted to be. Oh,
1:13:23
man. I just, I
1:13:25
think the part of me that just like loves
1:13:28
to see things burn sometimes just, you
1:13:30
know, why not? It
1:13:32
is entertaining. It's
1:13:34
another thing that I don't like or use. So
1:13:36
like, whatever. I
1:13:39
don't know. Speaking of government,
1:13:41
the state of California would like to
1:13:43
know your location and also your velocity.
1:13:46
California Senator Scott. I'm
1:13:49
sure it's, I'm sure it's
1:13:51
not pronounced quite like that. I love it.
1:13:53
Initially proposed a bill that would
1:13:55
place speed limiters in passenger vehicles
1:13:57
to physically. Oh, no, this was the thing I was talking.
1:14:00
about earlier, okay, yeah, that would prevent them
1:14:02
from going more than 10 miles an hour
1:14:04
over the speed limit starting in 2027. Actually
1:14:07
what? However, this
1:14:09
has recently been revised to just
1:14:12
using visual and audio signals to
1:14:14
alert drivers of their speed. Wieners
1:14:17
also amended the bill to clarify that drivers would
1:14:19
receive one warning each time they go over the
1:14:22
speed threshold rather than a constant warning. This
1:14:25
version of the bill has passed the Senate
1:14:27
Transportation Committee along party lines. The
1:14:29
bill is backed by the National Transportation Safety
1:14:31
Board, which has pushed for speed limiting systems
1:14:33
since 2012, and the
1:14:36
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has documented
1:14:39
a sharp increase in traffic fatalities nationwide,
1:14:41
including in major Californian cities. It
1:14:43
should be noted that these speed limit warning systems
1:14:46
are not new and are actually set to be
1:14:48
mandatory in all new vehicles in the EU starting
1:14:50
in July. Man, new cars
1:14:53
are going to be on the struggle bus pretty
1:14:55
quick styles here. Yeah. Because
1:15:00
that's what I was sitting here thinking, like it says,
1:15:05
would place speed limiters in passenger vehicles.
1:15:07
They mean just new ones, right?
1:15:10
You don't have to retrofit your car to have a
1:15:12
speed limiter in it. I mean, given that
1:15:16
even seat belts, you don't have to have
1:15:18
them if your vehicle's old enough. I doubt
1:15:20
that we're going to see speed limiters retroactively
1:15:22
coming into cars, but who knows, right? So
1:15:24
in this case, then the used car market
1:15:27
is just going to be so like you're going
1:15:29
to have used cars from other states being shipped
1:15:31
to California because people are going to want to
1:15:34
buy older used cars. Or
1:15:37
I wonder if you could even get just
1:15:39
any new car, but from out of state.
1:15:42
Like our car dealerships along the
1:15:45
outside, but along the Californian border are
1:15:47
going to be like super popular because
1:15:49
you can get non-California law
1:15:52
compliant cars and then
1:15:54
like just, you know, bring
1:15:56
them into California. I don't know. I don't know how
1:15:58
those laws would work. I don't know. American stuff, but
1:16:00
yeah. EK
1:16:04
has given a statement on
1:16:06
the allegations that
1:16:08
they failed to pay suppliers, employees, and
1:16:11
contractors for multiple months. CEO
1:16:13
and founder, Edward Koenig, has released a
1:16:15
statement apologizing, both for the hardship caused
1:16:18
by lack of timely payment and lack
1:16:20
of adequate communication. He took
1:16:22
over as CEO in February and claims to
1:16:24
have already addressed several issues, but acknowledged there
1:16:26
is still a long way to go. You
1:16:28
know what's funny is this is
1:16:31
round two of this. Did you
1:16:33
know that? No. Yeah.
1:16:36
Edward steps down as CEO once, like
1:16:38
10 or 12 years ago. I
1:16:41
can't remember exactly when. EK basically
1:16:43
went to crap and then
1:16:45
he stepped back in and restored it
1:16:47
to its former glory and better. And
1:16:50
then I didn't even know that he was out again,
1:16:52
but it
1:16:54
seems like something about EK for
1:16:56
blocks runs best when Edward
1:16:59
Koenig, Mr. EK, is at
1:17:01
the helm. Koenig
1:17:03
claims that EK is committed to fulfilling
1:17:05
its financial obligations and regaining community trust.
1:17:08
I mean, our discussion question here is a really big one. Why
1:17:11
did it take so long to communicate the new
1:17:13
plan? Like that's something that he doesn't have an
1:17:15
excuse for because if he's been CEO for two
1:17:18
months, that would have been
1:17:20
the time to communicate better. Like
1:17:24
we said in the video that featured a bunch
1:17:26
of EK parts, though, we are hopeful that
1:17:30
they will get themselves out of this
1:17:32
because you know what? I
1:17:34
love the product. It's a great product and
1:17:37
I want to
1:17:39
see them succeed, but obviously that success
1:17:41
can't come at the cost of
1:17:44
their employees and their contractors, right? It can't come
1:17:46
on their backs. Good
1:17:49
luck. Good luck, EK.
1:17:51
Godspeed. Yeah. I
1:17:55
don't really care about that one. Nope,
1:18:02
it's the the Braun Jean tattoo one.
1:18:05
Yeah Okay, where
1:18:07
is this? Just pretty cool. They're naming
1:18:09
conventions for their new chips are really
1:18:11
stupid Yeah Snapdragon
1:18:15
X elite but like with less
1:18:17
clock or less clockers. Yeah,
1:18:19
but the name is but we're What
1:18:23
but we're what is even the difference for this one? What
1:18:25
am I even looking at here? It
1:18:28
just has a different part number Doesn't do
1:18:30
for boost. I think I think there's no
1:18:32
dual core boost wise. Oh That's
1:18:35
right. And then why does why is plus less?
1:18:42
Qualcomm has said that gaming on these
1:18:44
chips will just work with the x-series
1:18:46
of SSEs No porting required and this
1:18:48
was apparently achieved through a Rosetta to
1:18:50
style translation layer It seems they're positioning
1:18:52
these chips to be an alternative to
1:18:54
AMD's mobile radians and mobile risons
1:18:57
and Intel's ultra lineup They've been showing off
1:18:59
their snapback and X elite primarily laptops and
1:19:01
claim it can work with discrete GPUs. Okay,
1:19:03
that's pretty cool So have
1:19:05
having the ability To
1:19:08
like put an Nvidia GPU
1:19:10
on this thing and just use it as a CPU is kind
1:19:12
of it just kind of blows my mind I don't know why
1:19:16
Semi-accurate comm talked with unnamed OEMs that
1:19:18
claim the Qualcomm benchmarks are faked though
1:19:21
up to 50% higher than what the OEMs can
1:19:23
reproduce With the same X-piece chip Qualcomm
1:19:25
has claimed that the weaker X plus can deliver 28
1:19:28
better 28 percent better performance in Cinebench 2024 than
1:19:30
Intel's ultra 7 155
1:19:33
H at the same power consumption and it looks like
1:19:35
there's a few more nodes here But what this is
1:19:37
gonna boil down to is show me
1:19:39
the money Let's see. Let's
1:19:41
see what you guys have actually got going on here
1:19:43
enough enough talk I'm pretty
1:19:45
excited to check these out though. This could
1:19:47
be the the Apple silicon moment for Windows
1:19:49
PCs I wouldn't mind better battery
1:19:51
life. That would be okay Yeah,
1:19:54
we could we could use it who
1:19:56
thought naming four products only two
1:19:58
different names was Cool. I
1:20:02
don't mind the plus that much. I
1:20:05
think the problem that makes it weird is the
1:20:07
Placing that it has in this chart because
1:20:09
elite sounds better than plus so if plus
1:20:11
was just first and then elite came after
1:20:13
It'd be fine Yeah,
1:20:16
exactly. I guess what's just snapdragon
1:20:19
x what yeah Yeah,
1:20:21
but there isn't one of those Three
1:20:25
of them just be called snapdragon x elite
1:20:27
is like definitely the whole problem Ah
1:20:32
well, um Okay,
1:20:34
anything else doo-doo-doo-doo Cybertruck
1:20:37
thing the
1:20:40
high school principal thing I Do
1:20:44
the high school principal thing for the for the people
1:20:46
playing bingo high school Okay,
1:20:50
never mind. Oh, yeah, sure Sure,
1:20:55
I might have to go pretty soon boys you can carry
1:20:57
on a little longer without me, but I am fading extremely
1:20:59
fast Only got one
1:21:01
ring, right? I Didn't
1:21:04
sleep last night at all and I got
1:21:06
on a plane at 8 a.m So
1:21:09
I had to be I'd leave for the airport at 5. So
1:21:11
basically I stayed up working on a paint
1:21:13
job Until about
1:21:15
4 30. I got a little bit of rest
1:21:19
Not sleep just rest while I packed
1:21:22
and then I headed out for
1:21:24
the airport at around 5 30 and then I And
1:21:28
then I ate and then I flew and I got a little
1:21:30
bit of sleep on the plane But I'm dying but you know
1:21:33
what? I don't know whether it's the lack of sleep or whether
1:21:35
it's the paint fumes I'm feeling pretty silly
1:21:37
today, but it was worth it. I just got
1:21:40
I got a message from Alex that
1:21:42
says Honestly
1:21:47
paint job is pretty sick It's
1:21:51
terrible. So I just want to get that out
1:21:53
there right now. It's terrible, but
1:21:56
that's the intention You
1:21:58
guys might remember that in that
1:22:00
we upgraded Pluth's car video. We
1:22:02
alluded to potentially a part two.
1:22:05
Well, what we came up with is that we
1:22:07
were going to do a part two, adding more tech to his
1:22:09
car. So we added Android Auto, we added a backup
1:22:12
camera last time, and we
1:22:14
had teased maybe doing power windows, power
1:22:17
door locks, putting in some
1:22:19
new headlights. But we can't have
1:22:21
everyone internally complaining that we're upgrading Pluth's car
1:22:23
and nobody else's. So there had to be
1:22:25
a catch. And the catch is that
1:22:28
I got to paint his car any color
1:22:31
I wanted. I'm
1:22:35
very excited. Oh, man. Okay,
1:22:39
sorry, Dan, go ahead. Tara, let's
1:22:41
get through some merch measures. We've got
1:22:44
four that curated right now. Hi, DLL,
1:22:46
first time watching live at 42 just
1:22:48
found out that I'm expecting my first
1:22:50
child. While you had your family young.
1:22:53
Do you have any advice for someone having their
1:22:55
first in their 40s? Oh,
1:22:58
man. Well, having not tried it yet.
1:23:01
It's not Cromwood. I
1:23:06
don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:23:09
Or not ideally. I
1:23:11
know. Having not tried it. I mean, I
1:23:16
would say the biggest thing that
1:23:18
has kept me more
1:23:20
aligned with my kids is being into
1:23:22
tech actually. Like I introduced
1:23:24
my kids to Discord, which they use
1:23:26
to socialize with their friends. Don't
1:23:29
let your kids you know, move on to
1:23:31
Instagram or move on to that move on
1:23:33
to the platform, and then follow them around
1:23:35
because that makes you not cool
1:23:38
and everything about it not cool. But if you
1:23:40
just kind of are staying with it a little
1:23:42
bit, and you have some idea what's going on,
1:23:45
don't underestimate the importance of knowing what the
1:23:47
heck they're talking about. And
1:23:49
yeah, some of it's going to be kind of stupid. My kids like
1:23:52
stupid movies and stupid videos and stupid
1:23:54
games. They talk, man, my kids just
1:23:56
got into Fortnite. Anyway, the
1:23:59
point is. You're not always gonna
1:24:01
enjoy it, but think of it
1:24:03
as work. Little man has such
1:24:05
good taste in games forever. I
1:24:08
know. Ah! My
1:24:11
soul. Okay. That's fine. You
1:24:14
know what? I
1:24:17
haven't shown him Warcraft 3 yet,
1:24:19
and I think that's gonna capture his attention.
1:24:22
So I'm gonna step up my plan. He
1:24:24
is an RTS gamer. He
1:24:26
totally is. Oh. That's
1:24:28
a good sign. He's amazing for RTS. Yeah. Yep.
1:24:32
He's got the brain for it. He loves Anno. Yeah. Loves
1:24:35
Supreme Commander. So yeah, I'm gonna... We haven't played
1:24:37
the Warcraft 3 campaign. That's...
1:24:40
It's a good one. It's a really good one. All
1:24:42
right. What have we got, Dan? Get
1:24:45
him on Factorio. Maybe not yet, but I'm sure
1:24:47
he'll like that. He won't go to school anymore.
1:24:50
I'd like to see it once in a while.
1:24:53
Yeah. Yeah. He's
1:24:55
probably a bit better with sleep strategy than you. Sorry.
1:24:59
Hi, DLL. How
1:25:03
have you managed to keep a good
1:25:05
level of structure and tidiness in your
1:25:07
test or lab places with a growing
1:25:09
team working for a company that struggles
1:25:11
establishing good practices while growing? I
1:25:15
think we struggle with that too. Same.
1:25:19
Yeah. But yeah. Hi, DLL. You're
1:25:23
gonna continue. Sorry. Yeah. Do
1:25:26
we? No. Hi,
1:25:29
DLL. I started as a job as the... No
1:25:31
way. We... Okay, hold on. Hold
1:25:33
on. We deserve a little bit more credit
1:25:35
than that. We started by having
1:25:37
a pretty big space for them, so they were able
1:25:39
to spread things out a little bit. They
1:25:42
actually do a pretty darn good job of assigning
1:25:45
a place for everything. We
1:25:48
don't always have everything in its place, but overall,
1:25:50
we have a place for everything, so it keeps
1:25:52
things from getting too messy. And
1:25:55
we're trying not to rush them. And they've had
1:25:57
a forward-thinking plan the whole time. There
1:26:00
was like essentially models
1:26:02
of where they were going to put things
1:26:04
from like the very beginning. Yeah.
1:26:08
Okay. Go ahead, Dan. Right.
1:26:12
Oh, one moment. Hi,
1:26:14
DLL. I started a job as the IT
1:26:16
guy for a company. Not much before it
1:26:18
was documented. I want
1:26:20
to document all the processes, but
1:26:22
would doing that make me replaceable?
1:26:24
How can I make myself indispensable?
1:26:28
Have good ideas like documenting all your processes
1:26:30
and execute it and totally kick butt at
1:26:32
it and then have a new good idea
1:26:34
and then do that and then all of
1:26:36
a sudden not only will you not be
1:26:38
replaceable, you'll be indispensable. There,
1:26:41
I had a point this way. The
1:26:45
importance of initiative and making
1:26:48
the company work better regardless of whether
1:26:50
it's directly on your quarterly KPIs. The
1:26:52
importance can't be overstated. Yeah.
1:26:56
And like if people are really paying attention and
1:26:58
you're just not documenting things as an IT person,
1:27:01
you will be very suddenly extremely
1:27:03
replaceable. Yeah. So
1:27:07
and as somebody who was irreplaceable
1:27:09
for about seven years, you
1:27:12
want to be replaceable. I
1:27:14
took four days off in those seven years. Yeah. I
1:27:17
need to take a Friday off when I'm here. Yeah, but
1:27:20
we got to take the context
1:27:22
here. The context was they are
1:27:25
making themselves replaceable
1:27:28
by making their job function really, really, really
1:27:30
smooth. So it was a
1:27:32
very different thing that I was talking about. Constant innovation is
1:27:34
not the same thing as being the only guy who knows
1:27:37
how to do it and so you just get called in
1:27:39
the middle of the night by the owner or whatever. And
1:27:42
he did technically end it with or whoever this
1:27:44
was, did technically
1:27:46
end it with how can I make
1:27:49
myself indispensable. So I think Linus's
1:27:51
answer was like pretty good. Yeah.
1:27:53
You want to be indispensable and yeah,
1:27:55
exactly. Yeah. tuning
1:28:00
L.D. caught a merch message in a March
1:28:03
wan about screen time for kids and
1:28:05
that Linus put out a lot of
1:28:07
good info. Curious Linus, what is
1:28:09
the standard bedtime in your house for the kids?
1:28:13
Oh man, you gotta understand, I got three kids. We
1:28:16
were all over that stuff, like,
1:28:18
you know, bedtime routine, we brushed
1:28:20
all the kids teeth by hand
1:28:22
ourselves and like always
1:28:24
did stories and it was always kind of the same
1:28:27
time. These days it's like, I don't
1:28:29
know, are you tired? I'm tired, okay. Kids,
1:28:31
go to bed. You
1:28:35
eventually kind of relax on that stuff. Generally
1:28:38
speaking, one of my kids
1:28:40
is a total night owl, my eldest daughter, so
1:28:42
I can put her to bed at 8.30 and
1:28:45
she'll still be awake in her bed just lying there staring
1:28:47
at the ceiling at 10.30 anyway, so what's the point? So
1:28:51
I'll send her to bed if she's like cranky and obviously
1:28:53
needs to sleep, but other than that, she kind of
1:28:57
sleeps when she's tired and then the
1:28:59
youngest one, we try to get her in bed at
1:29:01
8.30 and screen time does
1:29:03
end once bedtime starts. However,
1:29:06
I mean, my problem as a kid was never screens when
1:29:08
I was supposed to be sleeping. It was always books and
1:29:10
we do let our kids read in bed, so sometimes
1:29:13
they're tired and they're hard to wake up in the morning,
1:29:15
but honestly, if I can raise a
1:29:17
house of readers, I consider a little bit of lost
1:29:19
sleep to be acceptable collateral damage.
1:29:23
Okay, the last of the curators I've got
1:29:25
for you here with how bad the car
1:29:27
industry is getting, what do you think of
1:29:29
a reality involving an open source car? I
1:29:32
know we both believe the vast majority will
1:29:34
not own their own cars in the future.
1:29:38
Don't those exist? Kit cars? Aren't
1:29:41
there kit cars that are effectively open source? So
1:29:45
much of making a car is not the
1:29:47
car. So much of it is
1:29:49
the infrastructure to produce the car. Look
1:29:51
how many car companies there are that can make one
1:29:53
car or a dozen cars. The
1:29:56
problem is that the overhead involved in designing
1:29:58
and building a car and setting up for
1:30:00
manufacture means that you have to make thousands and
1:30:02
thousands, tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of cars
1:30:04
or it doesn't make any financial sense. I
1:30:07
don't think that the traditional model of car
1:30:09
manufacture is going anywhere anytime soon. But
1:30:13
who knows? Hey, framework raised another what? Like
1:30:15
$16 million? Maybe that's their next big expansion?
1:30:19
Probably not. I actually, oh, I had meant
1:30:21
to kind of speculate on that, but I think I actually
1:30:23
just need to go and lie down for a little bit
1:30:25
before this event. I'm supposed to attend. Yeah,
1:30:27
do it. Go here. Maybe next week. Why
1:30:29
don't next week? Why don't
1:30:31
we play a guessing game and see what
1:30:34
frameworks next investment cycle is going to
1:30:36
go into? Number one was framework 13.
1:30:38
Number two was framework 16. Number
1:30:40
three is something and they're saying it's going to be
1:30:42
quite different. Yeah, not a laptop.
1:30:46
Investment disclosure. Yeah. Yeah.
1:30:49
All right. I think it's not a laptop. I need
1:30:51
to go. Okay,
1:30:54
bye. Thanks for tuning in. See you again
1:30:56
next week. Same bad times, same bad channel. I
1:31:00
can't say my thing because I'm not leaving, but
1:31:02
bye Linus. Okay.
1:31:05
Yeah, high school principal almost framed
1:31:07
for fake racist rant using AI.
1:31:10
A clip was posted to a
1:31:12
popular Instagram account with the voice
1:31:14
of Baltimore County Pikesville High School's
1:31:17
principal making racist remarks targeting teachers,
1:31:19
students, and parents by name. These
1:31:22
included one threat to drag the
1:31:24
school's athletic directors. Wow. We're
1:31:28
not going to
1:31:30
say that, but it was bad
1:31:33
and the clip is still up apparently.
1:31:37
It was convincing enough that it began to
1:31:39
spread immediately. Emily
1:31:41
Y says, if you don't want to hear it, there
1:31:43
are a couple of points where it sounds off
1:31:46
and it's easy to gloss over them because the
1:31:48
rest sounds so natural. Yeah,
1:31:50
that's rough. This
1:31:53
stuff is getting crazy. But
1:31:56
faculty and the community believed the clip.
1:32:00
Really and this led
1:32:02
to the principal being temporarily removed and an
1:32:04
investigation launched the investigation revealed that it was
1:32:06
in fact a fake Made by the schools
1:32:09
made by the school's athletic director What
1:32:12
a twist? Good
1:32:15
I love this story. It's terrifying.
1:32:17
That's wild. So the athletic director
1:32:20
Made an AI clip of the principal Very
1:32:24
negatively calling out the the
1:32:26
athletic director That's
1:32:31
rough The
1:32:34
investigation revealed that yeah The
1:32:36
smoking gun was that he had used
1:32:38
the school Computers and his school email
1:32:41
to sign up for the AI voice
1:32:43
imitation service and distribute the fake recordings
1:32:48
Okay forensic and analysis points to
1:32:50
a service like 11 labs which
1:32:52
can synthesize voices with just a
1:32:54
few minutes of audio Only
1:32:56
the principal's union leader suggested that the clip
1:32:59
may be a deep fake one
1:33:01
person How
1:33:05
can we be sure of anything we see or
1:33:07
hear anymore is there any coming back from this
1:33:10
in my opinion Not
1:33:12
really to be completely honest We're
1:33:17
in like post truth or whatever I'm
1:33:22
not getting in the chair. This is Luke. So you could
1:33:26
I'm not getting in the chair. This is Luke. This is
1:33:28
Luke. This is Luke. This is Luke. This is Luke. This
1:33:30
is Luke. That was a I don't want
1:33:32
to I don't care That's
1:33:34
like a is that okay? I feel
1:33:37
bad about that. Why do you feel bad about it?
1:33:39
I don't know cuz it's your your in line this is show. I'm
1:33:41
just here to do merch message Yeah, but we used to have guests
1:33:43
on the show all the time. I Think
1:33:46
Elijah was even like hey, can I join and I
1:33:48
was like, I mean if James says it Okay, but
1:33:50
I also don't know how long we're doing this show
1:33:53
for yeah, it'll be a little while longer. I guess
1:33:56
Little bit. Yeah, I Think you have
1:33:58
some other topics. The
1:34:01
cyber trunk may be bulletproof. But.
1:34:03
It's not waterproof. You can stand.
1:34:06
Here. Cause dad. Was.
1:34:09
Switching can't wait. I can't do it. Oh.
1:34:14
I. Don't know. How to do
1:34:17
vary? The I'd honestly normally do
1:34:19
camera sourcing. Supposed
1:34:24
to. See
1:34:26
us! That is like arrived on this remote
1:34:28
into it. It's fine if we find. Bugs
1:34:36
Bunny. Ah, there we go. The cyberattack
1:34:38
may be bulletproof, but it's not waterproof
1:34:40
car wash woes. Turns out that the
1:34:42
bullet resistant trucks is not able to
1:34:45
handle a bit of water. The terms
1:34:47
and conditions of the cybersex say that
1:34:49
if you fail to put it into
1:34:51
car wash mode, your new eighty thousand
1:34:54
to her track can be rendered a
1:34:56
paperweight ticked off user of. Top.
1:35:00
To and caption. Cash. And add.
1:35:03
Went to. Went.
1:35:05
To the beach with his dogs and and
1:35:07
he didn't even pressure was it but rinse
1:35:09
it out A result the bed with a
1:35:11
hose and now his infotainment screen is completely
1:35:13
non from smoke. Whoa.
1:35:16
This includes the trucks pedometer, all
1:35:18
the. Odds
1:35:20
are urging information and rear camera
1:35:22
which is necessary to back up
1:35:24
the vehicle because the back windows
1:35:27
otherwise too narrow and often obscured
1:35:29
by the trucks bedcovers. Several other
1:35:31
users have reported problems with corrosion,
1:35:33
in part because stainless steel is
1:35:35
not rustproof, merely ross resistance. Ah,
1:35:37
all the cyberattacks are apparently recall.
1:35:40
Every cyberattack has been recalled due to
1:35:42
a fault with the accelerator pedal. Recall
1:35:44
here means that has of will be
1:35:46
replacing the faulty parts not and like
1:35:48
slip off right? Yeah I think at
1:35:50
least part of it was that often
1:35:52
gets stuff and it stuck in that
1:35:54
it forces he salute or down there
1:35:56
is there the break overrides because they're
1:35:58
all digital. A break over the accelerator
1:36:00
cools off you would press the break.
1:36:03
It wouldn't matter, the accelerator was down to
1:36:05
see would just break. I mean, how long would
1:36:07
it take you to realize. That. Your
1:36:09
own we aren't pushing down and how? And are
1:36:11
you actually going on that because you don't know
1:36:14
that? That would override. it can really put it
1:36:16
into neutral and he can't. Old. Turn.
1:36:18
The engine on a lot of a tricks
1:36:20
you do in a gas car knock in
1:36:23
a worse right into a while and a
1:36:25
trick that you wouldn't really necessarily do any
1:36:27
gas cards does work so it's like I
1:36:29
am I their terrifying not not good he
1:36:31
is more have club. Too.
1:36:34
Any yeah, Oh
1:36:37
yeah here we go his that he
1:36:39
tells this of the it is possible
1:36:41
for the accelerator pedal to slide up
1:36:43
while flooring it, lodging the pedal cover
1:36:45
against some trim and causing the penalty
1:36:48
get stuck all the way down of
1:36:50
at seems like a problem was caused
1:36:52
by an unapproved chains and yet and
1:36:54
we've experienced one of those a school
1:36:56
backpack organic backyard of attacks were serious
1:36:58
cause my an unapproved seems to the
1:37:00
assembly of the petals and introduced a
1:37:03
lubricant some soap to. Help the cover
1:37:05
slide on, but I guess that stayed
1:37:07
there are. The recall also revealed that
1:37:09
Tesla has only delivered thirty one hundred
1:37:11
and seventy eight cyber trucks. And
1:37:15
samosas a cyber truck cos it's like a hell of
1:37:18
a lot of money isn't it? Juicing
1:37:20
The brakes are physical. still. Ah,
1:37:22
I'm said non fly by wire break but
1:37:25
the i don't think they figure that out
1:37:27
perfectly at the accelerator accelerators and in my
1:37:29
car has as a fly by wire accelerator
1:37:31
as year and a lotta automatics will have
1:37:33
the automatic cotton blip and things like that
1:37:35
right? I
1:37:38
mean, why would they. Be.
1:37:40
Like a hundred thousand dollar truck or something like
1:37:43
that flagship products and think so far they just
1:37:45
like gluing on are slipping over a cover. Why
1:37:47
isn't it. Like mailed.
1:37:49
aluminum or you know there's a screw
1:37:52
in it i could one screw right
1:37:54
at the bottom one singles in our
1:37:56
this is just one right there and
1:37:58
that when But come
1:38:00
on I was I didn't have
1:38:03
to do like I
1:38:05
don't want to deal with the recall yet But I need to
1:38:07
drive my truck a little bit What
1:38:09
is my fix just take off some of those
1:38:12
were pretty funny? Yeah, you just take the cover
1:38:14
off you can screw it on yourself You can
1:38:16
do there's like somebody like screw just right through
1:38:18
it. Yeah, what's it gonna hurt
1:38:20
the resale value? It's been in the air for
1:38:22
like a week. It's already rusted You've
1:38:25
had to clean it six. You're not gonna get your
1:38:27
money back on like the rags and the cleaning fluid
1:38:29
for yeah Yeah, yeah, I don't
1:38:31
know. Yeah, I can't I can't
1:38:34
get a Tesla's website to play nice right
1:38:36
now It's
1:38:38
just forcing me to select the language. Yeah.
1:38:40
What if I actually just pick one? Okay
1:38:42
now it's working. That's weird Rivet
1:38:47
that's a good idea. Joe. Uh One
1:38:50
rivet, do you know the price of rivets like
1:38:52
practically nothing? I think they're like four dollars a
1:38:55
ton Or
1:38:57
actually, what about that microwave welding thing
1:39:00
where you just like Squoosh
1:39:02
it and then oh, yeah. Yeah, like
1:39:04
I think even the stream deck is
1:39:06
made with that stream deck can do
1:39:08
it Why can't Tesla? I Bet
1:39:11
that they make a good car pedal.
1:39:13
I don't know. I wonder I wonder how good
1:39:15
it was before they did the soap thing Because
1:39:18
it was an unapproved change that they're blaming
1:39:20
on but there wasn't a fastener. Yeah, I'm
1:39:22
not sure maybe it like clipped on I
1:39:25
mean you got a pretty strong interference fit
1:39:27
with like rubbers or metals or things like
1:39:29
that But
1:39:31
why would it need soap? Like
1:39:34
are they putting on by hand? Yeah,
1:39:37
I'm not sure what the manufacturing process was but
1:39:39
it was a lubricant to put it on yeah,
1:39:41
you would normally well Why isn't that lubricant glue?
1:39:44
I Glue
1:39:47
it's let me superglue nice
1:39:49
nice smooth stuff just Yeah,
1:39:52
there. I'm bloody hell Obviously
1:39:55
they would buy it in higher quantities with bigger discounts,
1:39:57
but a 50 Pack of rivets
1:39:59
from Home Depot. Nine bucks
1:40:01
Canadians stainless steel, I
1:40:03
think so. Because. Along with
1:40:05
a bill to avoid the build a
1:40:07
wash your pedal after attacking. America.
1:40:10
Careful don't watch it with too much water. Might
1:40:12
sort out your old trust. For
1:40:15
this before it or watch mode for his
1:40:17
I was I was promised utopia. I
1:40:20
don't like current year. I don't think I have for a while.
1:40:24
Make good things. Don't.
1:40:26
Make bad things. I've
1:40:28
lived as we had a discussion question to even
1:40:30
talk about it. What kind of process results in
1:40:33
a truck that isn't even weatherproof? Yeah.
1:40:37
I don't know. man. Cm, Ego
1:40:40
is an ego, is it? I'm
1:40:43
happy with like What? Tesla?
1:40:46
Did by existing. Just.
1:40:49
Like get more interesting ease
1:40:51
and I'm. Paid.
1:40:54
Like the seen it. I mean it to
1:40:56
me on paper. Stance.
1:40:59
Your car cool. Delorean.
1:41:02
Yeah. You. Queen it with gasoline.
1:41:05
That's the best way to clean the
1:41:07
Delorean is gasoline seconds Murtha? Yeah it
1:41:10
going. Stainless steel really good. Which
1:41:14
I think is hilarious as we
1:41:16
don't do that anymore and is
1:41:18
an electric Cars. And
1:41:20
gases like what? Three four dollars
1:41:22
a gallon? Now nearly three dollars
1:41:25
a leader? Hear about two pound
1:41:27
of leader And the America that
1:41:29
is over on the other side
1:41:31
of the pond like I don't
1:41:33
know, is crazy. Apparently
1:41:36
this is. I
1:41:38
don't have those. Doesn't seem like a natural
1:41:40
official video a a white diesel and make
1:41:42
sense but. whose
1:41:45
their six i thought this was a do it
1:41:47
yourself version of the six because i've seen
1:41:49
as v i didn't think this was tesla sexy
1:41:51
i mean just literally that so they i
1:41:53
think this was the so when i saw though
1:41:55
the one those claiming this is a d
1:41:57
i y six to say not to say Okay,
1:42:00
I don't know but this looks like just
1:42:02
like a 3d printed block that ensures that
1:42:04
you line it up properly and then I
1:42:07
think they're drilling a hole and then just
1:42:09
riveting the hole. I think is the whole
1:42:11
thing. We'll see here in a moment So
1:42:15
come back. We're drilling a hole in it. Wait
1:42:17
for it Wait
1:42:20
for it. There we go. There
1:42:23
it is Looks
1:42:26
like a rivet to me I'm
1:42:29
not a fan of remits. They're not serviceable. Yeah
1:42:33
Yeah, me too Gonna
1:42:36
have to drill that out right to repair. I Mean
1:42:39
you could drill it out though. Yeah Robert
1:42:43
in there An
1:42:46
open future is on the horizon get it
1:42:48
because that's the name of the operating system
1:42:51
Meta is opening its quest
1:42:53
VR headset software now called
1:42:55
horizon OS to third-party devices
1:42:57
meta has already included
1:43:01
three official partners planning to planning
1:43:04
on creating horizon OS based headsets including
1:43:06
a gaming focused device from a soos
1:43:08
a Learning focused device from
1:43:11
Lenovo and a limited edition meta
1:43:13
quest in collaboration with Xbox Meta
1:43:15
apparently wants its OS to become
1:43:18
the Android of virtual reality a
1:43:20
major benefit for users is the ability
1:43:22
to bring profile information across devices and
1:43:25
device manufacturers and cross-device
1:43:27
compatible programs and games Adam
1:43:30
thinks a major downside for users is the
1:43:32
ability for meta to track even more of
1:43:35
you Which is I'm
1:43:37
sure 100% of the reason why they
1:43:39
want to do this. Yeah, that seems
1:43:41
like the reason anybody does anything these
1:43:43
days Oh, we released this new
1:43:45
pair of software. It's open and free We
1:43:49
get all the information Discussion
1:43:51
question would a default platform shared
1:43:54
between various headsets be a boon
1:43:56
to VR Do we trust Zuckerberg
1:43:58
to be the man with the plan? What's
1:44:01
in it for Mark after the mediocre
1:44:03
launch of the Vision Pro is meta
1:44:05
feeling bullish or bearish on the VR
1:44:07
market as a whole? What about you?
1:44:10
A lot of questions actually. That is a lot
1:44:12
of questions. I'm a computer tethered guy. Yeah.
1:44:15
My headset's a screen. One
1:44:18
of the reasons I switched to the index over the I
1:44:21
still call it the CV1 because I was
1:44:23
a DK1 boy. Been there from
1:44:26
the start. Yeah. Get in there for the dev stuff.
1:44:28
Me too. Is because the
1:44:30
Lighthouse system is a little bit more open
1:44:32
to third-party trackers and like tracking and things
1:44:34
like that then maybe a closed system or
1:44:37
even inside out right? But
1:44:39
I mean I would like to see the software
1:44:43
at least being a little more open. I
1:44:46
don't even see why the headsets
1:44:48
couldn't just be like tethered headsets
1:44:51
but you would attach a computer
1:44:53
module to the headset so you
1:44:55
kind of have like headset driving
1:44:57
companies and then maybe also headset
1:44:59
display companies. Like the
1:45:01
index had a plug on the top and I could just
1:45:03
pop a Oculus Android
1:45:06
phone. Yeah so it's really turning into
1:45:08
like computer and monitor. Yeah. Instead
1:45:10
of all in one device. Yeah. Yeah. I
1:45:12
like the idea of like someone putting a
1:45:14
sticker on their headset that's like my other
1:45:16
my other VR headset is a computer monitor.
1:45:19
Yeah. Yeah. I mean that makes sense. A
1:45:21
lot of the good stuff. Yeah.
1:45:24
I think the
1:45:26
shared between I think I think they're bearish right
1:45:28
and I think I think
1:45:32
a lot of people maybe have been moving
1:45:34
away from games because developing games for VR
1:45:36
is really hard. It's a very
1:45:38
limited platform. You don't really have too much that
1:45:40
you can do in the
1:45:42
space and then productivity.
1:45:45
Like is that better? You
1:45:48
know I've got this here. My head is
1:45:50
unencumbered apart from some headphones and I do
1:45:52
know people all of the people
1:45:54
that I know that kept their Apple Vision
1:45:56
Pros and especially
1:45:58
the people that I know that are happy with them are
1:46:01
people that travel a lot and work
1:46:03
while they travel. I
1:46:06
think that's reasonable. And travel
1:46:08
might even be, you know. It's a
1:46:10
very expensive productivity tool. What
1:46:13
are your productivity gains versus the
1:46:17
amount that you've spent on it? Like
1:46:19
are you making X amount of dollars
1:46:22
more than you would or is it
1:46:24
for fun or is it for writing like, I
1:46:28
don't know. I think there's got to be a little bit of
1:46:31
tech passion involved. I
1:46:35
think if you've got the tech
1:46:37
passion and you can excuse it
1:46:39
as like a productivity for work
1:46:41
slash business expense, I think those
1:46:43
people... However you want to sell it to yourself, I guess. I
1:46:46
can certainly see that. I think if I had the
1:46:49
disposable income and needed that use case, then, you know,
1:46:51
maybe I would buy it. I still haven't gotten
1:46:53
to try it. It seems to have disappeared.
1:46:56
But I don't know.
1:46:58
Just spatial computing is a concept.
1:47:00
I'm not sure.
1:47:03
It's an interesting one. Avery
1:47:05
Studio says, are they using it while in the middle
1:47:07
of traveling? Yeah, totally. Yeah, you can use it on
1:47:09
a plane, right? On a plane,
1:47:11
passenger seat, in a car, something like that. On a
1:47:13
plane, on a train, yeah. In an automobile, yeah. People
1:47:16
are definitely using them. I think it's a
1:47:19
lot less common than obviously when it first
1:47:21
came out. Maybe it's
1:47:23
kind of settled into it's like 600 or
1:47:25
hardcore users who are actually
1:47:27
going to get some use out of it.
1:47:30
Yeah. Maybe getting it and seeing that
1:47:32
it's a toy unless you actually really want to
1:47:34
use it. Like a super powerful computer is a
1:47:38
good toy. A $4,000, $5,000 computer
1:47:40
to play games on. Very
1:47:45
expensive toy, right? Yes, yeah. As a
1:47:47
productivity tool, also
1:47:49
pretty expensive. It could be
1:47:51
reasonably productive on a laptop,
1:47:54
but it's better to be productive on
1:47:56
a desktop. So maybe that's the
1:47:59
kind of comparison. There's also some privacy
1:48:01
benefits. Absolutely. If you're on a
1:48:03
plane and you're not
1:48:05
in like first class because you didn't feel like
1:48:08
remorgaging your house to fly somewhere. You
1:48:10
could have bought two Vision Pros. Yeah,
1:48:12
exactly. Then other people
1:48:14
might be able to see your screen and depending on what
1:48:17
you're working on, that might actually not be okay. You might
1:48:19
want to protect your slash fiction. Yeah,
1:48:22
all that sort of stuff. Totally. Nobody
1:48:24
wants to see your weird Harry Potter stuff. I
1:48:26
gotta buy a Vision Pro. You
1:48:29
know, that kind of thing. Yeah, if it
1:48:31
helps the productivity of that, then
1:48:36
yeah, why not? How
1:48:39
about a bike? I don't know, man.
1:48:41
I don't think you can take those on planes. I
1:48:45
think they meant using it while you're on
1:48:47
a bike. I think maybe if
1:48:49
it's a tandem bike and you're in the back, you
1:48:51
could make it work. I think, what is it, 12
1:48:54
milliseconds of delay? Something like
1:48:56
that. I'm sure you could find a way
1:48:58
to bike around with it. Maybe once the
1:49:00
FOV gets better. I'm waiting for glasses. For
1:49:03
me, super high quality AR glasses.
1:49:05
We're not there yet, but yeah. That's
1:49:08
where I'm okay with like, all
1:49:10
right, now I'm gonna consider
1:49:12
glasses being a productivity tool, right? My
1:49:14
biggest thing right now is it's
1:49:17
something that's gonna go on your face. So
1:49:20
if you want wide market adoption, it
1:49:22
needs to not be really
1:49:25
ugly. I think
1:49:27
for me, I like the
1:49:29
solidarity, the
1:49:31
solidity of physical
1:49:34
objects, right? When
1:49:36
I'm being productive or I'm working on stuff,
1:49:38
the last thing I wanna be separating
1:49:41
my brain into is
1:49:43
the management of my environment,
1:49:45
right? So I'm working on
1:49:47
things and then suddenly, there's a window here, but
1:49:49
I need it over here or something
1:49:51
like that. With a mouse, it's really easy
1:49:54
to just boop. But
1:49:56
now kind of I'm dealing with floating windows and they have
1:49:58
to be in 3D space. I have to manipulate
1:50:00
them and now I'm trying
1:50:02
to conceptualize where my productivity
1:50:05
is going. Maybe
1:50:07
you would get used to that. It's
1:50:10
very new. I
1:50:12
can do that on a computer. Maybe less experienced users
1:50:14
struggle with that, right? I have no idea if this
1:50:16
is a thing or not, so I might be talking
1:50:18
about a thing that already exists. But
1:50:21
something that you might like is if
1:50:23
someone made an app where you could
1:50:25
set up a workspace and you could have
1:50:27
multiple workspaces. And then the things within that workspace
1:50:29
are contained to that plane. You
1:50:32
know what I haven't seen yet, which would
1:50:34
be amazing for Inside Out and the Oculus
1:50:36
and even the Vision Pro stuff like that,
1:50:38
is just fiducial markers. This
1:50:41
is where my computer monitor is. You
1:50:44
just put a little QR code fiducial marker thing
1:50:47
on the desk and now it
1:50:49
is there. Or you put it
1:50:51
on a coaster. You get a
1:50:53
coaster like this. AR
1:50:55
things are already a thing. We've already
1:50:57
got the AR amiibo
1:51:00
things as well. Computer
1:51:02
monitor right there. And then it's
1:51:04
just there. You want to move it a bit. You
1:51:07
just interact with a physical object, right? Not everything has
1:51:09
to be digital. That would be kind of neat. Yeah.
1:51:11
And you could still, you could represent it in virtual
1:51:13
reality with something that looks a little bit better
1:51:16
with just like a command orb or something near
1:51:18
that area so you know where to reach to
1:51:20
grab it even if it's projecting a larger. Oh,
1:51:22
if you were in full dive. Yeah. Right?
1:51:26
But if you were doing some AR stuff, then yeah. You could
1:51:28
just see the coaster. I mean that kind of works already with
1:51:30
the index and individual trackers and
1:51:32
things like that. They are represented so I
1:51:34
don't know. Yeah, maybe. Yeah.
1:51:36
Pokeball marker. Yeah, I like that.
1:51:39
Use whatever you want. Yeah. Pokeball
1:51:41
marker? I don't know. Mystical said
1:51:43
that. I don't. Sure.
1:51:46
Sure. I mean you could change it to whatever you want. Yeah.
1:51:48
Should we do some merge messages? Oh
1:51:51
yeah, that's a thing that I was supposed to be doing. You
1:51:54
can do from here. I know, but I was
1:51:56
supposed to be doing that while I was here.
1:51:58
Oh, whatever. It's fine. I think we
1:52:00
have only incoming. Yeah, cuz I didn't do any of
1:52:03
them cuz it's nobody over the anonymous said ooh You
1:52:07
can archive those No,
1:52:10
I will show it the whole
1:52:12
stream has to be Message
1:52:16
coming up at the bottom it will happen
1:52:18
in queue God
1:52:20
this is what I have to do with all day
1:52:22
the float plane shot is currently spamming ooh And
1:52:30
so much power now, this is awesome Disembodied
1:52:33
head of Linus. Do you have
1:52:35
any recommendations for podcasts? Well,
1:52:37
he's gone So I guess we
1:52:39
can take this one over No,
1:52:42
it was to all of us I just read the
1:52:45
disembodied out of Linus. Oh took me by surprise more
1:52:47
interesting Yes, they could get you listen to podcast. No,
1:52:49
I don't I know a lot
1:52:51
of people that do and I was attempting
1:52:53
to work on one for a while with a
1:52:55
with a friend well it
1:52:59
was like a book
1:53:01
reading more than anything Little
1:53:03
slash fiction novels. I think they were
1:53:05
like their father vintage bodice rippers from
1:53:08
the 1950s Well,
1:53:10
it all been kind of lost to time very
1:53:13
very interesting kind of Like
1:53:16
fiction slant like the the birth
1:53:18
of fan fiction. Oh, yeah Super
1:53:21
underground kind of thing and crazy got a
1:53:23
lot of them that are very rare so
1:53:26
that was kind of Extreme
1:53:28
amounts of work like an
1:53:30
unbelievable quantity of work Otherwise
1:53:34
no, there's some CBC ones. Yeah,
1:53:36
really good. Yep. I've heard of that. I
1:53:39
don't listen to many For
1:53:42
a while there When
1:53:44
I first started trying to do weight
1:53:46
loss stuff my like knees
1:53:48
a lot of things were super messed up So the the
1:53:50
best thing for me to do was to just like go
1:53:52
walk for like an hour and a half basically every day
1:53:56
So I Was listening to a lot of podcasts at that time, but
1:53:58
that was. A.
1:54:01
Little bit over a year ago at this point,
1:54:04
And. The Parker said i mean lined
1:54:06
at that time was the yard and human
1:54:08
Lab podcast. human lab was like a lot
1:54:11
of cool interesting information trying to be more
1:54:13
healthy. there's a lot information for that in
1:54:15
that part as to that was cool and
1:54:17
the yard it was just. It's.
1:54:20
Just like hang out with the boroughs.
1:54:23
So. It was a more casual yeah, think
1:54:25
you've talked about that before when they're doing
1:54:27
some of the set redesign of stuff like
1:54:30
that. Oh, there's set for the yard is
1:54:32
incredibly I would never really watched it because.
1:54:35
I don't know if I'm the emphasis like I
1:54:38
don't really watch Tv shows or movies at home
1:54:40
either. If I'm like sitting at home and I
1:54:42
need a recreational activity I'm going to play games
1:54:44
as I would never really like watch their their
1:54:46
podcast. But if I'm going out on a walk
1:54:48
it's one thing that was nice as I think
1:54:50
they're process is usually around an hour and a
1:54:52
half long. so is a good like Okay, I'll
1:54:55
start it when I start walking and when it
1:54:57
ends that's when I'll and therefore I'm not like
1:54:59
checking the time all the times when the who
1:55:01
can Five minutes left as like know Isis? Move
1:55:04
the puck, Essence just keep going. Keep moving. Until
1:55:06
then. I think for
1:55:08
me like I don't like. It's
1:55:10
taken me a long time to get you
1:55:12
so listening to things again in my free
1:55:14
time cause I was working from home a lot
1:55:17
and of course when I used to do
1:55:19
for work right I can't really listen to
1:55:21
music or listen to podcasts. on doing Ceo
1:55:23
editing that on were like. Working.
1:55:25
On podcasts are music.
1:55:28
So I now I just silence like I go
1:55:30
to the dinner with you. I don't have any
1:55:32
headphones and on have the music. I don't take
1:55:34
an M P three player with nail, go on
1:55:36
walks and stuff like that just wasn't a nothing
1:55:38
like. That Nasa's people
1:55:40
up sometimes. Yeah. I'm not that weird guy
1:55:42
at the gym is just night. Raw. Dog Unit
1:55:44
sister. Listening.
1:55:47
To nothing enjoying it. I can
1:55:49
be totally down with the Nothing
1:55:52
but. If.
1:55:54
I wanna do something really high effort in
1:55:56
in the gym. I like having music because.
1:56:01
It zones me in. That's what I'll
1:56:03
do at work. So it
1:56:05
helps me get into those extremely
1:56:07
deep flow states. Yes. I
1:56:10
don't think I necessarily have gotten into that point
1:56:12
at the gym. Maybe
1:56:14
eventually. Maybe. I
1:56:17
don't know. It helps me shut off everything else
1:56:19
and just really pour into the one thing that
1:56:21
I'm trying to do. Helps
1:56:23
me hit failure levels, stuff like that. Similar
1:56:28
problem. I can't really
1:56:30
listen to a podcast and do anything relatively
1:56:34
heavy. So
1:56:36
unless I'm walking or
1:56:38
driving then it's not really
1:56:40
super relevant. My commute to work isn't super long so
1:56:42
it would take me like days
1:56:44
to get through a single podcast which I'm
1:56:46
not super interested in. Sometimes CBC on the
1:56:49
radio has them. I like listening
1:56:51
to CBC on the way in mostly because it
1:56:53
doesn't have advertisements but sometimes music. They
1:56:56
have a podcast playlist which is one
1:56:58
of their segments where they recommend really good ones. One
1:57:01
thing I will say is with the
1:57:03
death of Google Podcasts I recently
1:57:05
was doing something that I was
1:57:08
very boring and monotonous and I needed a podcast
1:57:10
to listen to. So I tried to pull up
1:57:12
some podcasts that I just spoke about, Human Lab
1:57:14
and The Ark. I don't know. I know these.
1:57:17
And I tried to do it through YouTube Music. What
1:57:20
a horrible experience. I
1:57:22
really wish Google Podcasts was still
1:57:24
around. YouTube Music is not an
1:57:27
appropriate replacement for Google Podcasts in
1:57:30
my opinion. There's a
1:57:32
lot of difficulty with it. My understanding is that you
1:57:34
could really use anything you want because it's on
1:57:36
the back of RSS. So when we
1:57:38
upload to our platform it
1:57:41
goes everywhere all at once. Which whoever decided it
1:57:43
was going to work that way, great
1:57:47
job. Fantastic. No
1:57:49
notes. Like genuinely. And
1:57:52
how ownership is handled. Because
1:57:55
We've had to transfer them a few times. We used to
1:57:57
be on Spotify. Now We're on a new thing called Megaphone.
1:58:00
Which allows us to manage all four or
1:58:02
five of them at the same time, which
1:58:04
still goes to Spotify and Apple on there
1:58:06
and everywhere on yeah like that and they're
1:58:08
all post automatically. I learned that because when
1:58:10
I was experimenting with have i guess work.
1:58:13
I. Just I uploaded the Joe Rogan podcast
1:58:15
to I Tunes. And
1:58:18
I just had control over. it's. just.
1:58:21
Because. It's just an
1:58:23
Rss thing and you just go
1:58:25
like published broadcast and then the
1:58:27
entire catalogue gets pulled automatically. Whoa,
1:58:29
It's really interesting am. Very.
1:58:32
Strange. Now I understand
1:58:34
why: merge messages and divert summer.
1:58:37
Yeah yeah yeah accents you experiencing it's own
1:58:39
even know is he i know what was
1:58:41
the route question even know any good punk
1:58:43
right? And yeah oh he didn't go that
1:58:45
far off I guess. To. So
1:58:48
little bit agis seats.
1:58:52
Are. There any plans for altitude to
1:58:54
release, a bit set case for storing
1:58:56
all the bits in Iwerks and perhaps
1:58:58
spots for screwdriver, stubby precision and shaft
1:59:01
extension. All of that sort of stuff
1:59:03
on my understanding is in the works
1:59:05
currently. I think there
1:59:08
are some. Ideas. To may
1:59:10
be released in three d Prince or something like
1:59:12
that. She could do it yourself on we're still
1:59:14
working through that. I know Linus gave away one
1:59:16
of the bit said string the we. Ah,
1:59:19
That the stream. Ah,
1:59:21
the whatnot stream and I've seen some
1:59:23
other markets as well. A bunch of
1:59:25
people me their own. Death. Yeah,
1:59:27
that's cool and I think they have like three
1:59:29
files out for it. Yeah and. I
1:59:31
think that we're also trying and trying to set
1:59:33
up like am. A
1:59:36
government with platform as but we're trying to
1:59:38
set of a repository where we can dump
1:59:40
all the treaty Prince sprint cars If I
1:59:42
now I make a lot. A lot of
1:59:44
people here make a lot of internal soldier
1:59:46
mean oh okay sorry I was talking about
1:59:49
ah three Prince made by committee members. Know
1:59:51
I think they should still control those
1:59:54
and. You know, But.
1:59:56
i'm sorry we're talking about completely different things
1:59:58
yeah yeah yeah So I'm talking about both
2:00:01
at the same time. So we have ones
2:00:03
that we've done and also people
2:00:06
in the community have made them and you can either
2:00:08
download theirs or ours or design your own. But are
2:00:10
ours available at all yet? I have no idea. I
2:00:12
don't believe so. I don't think so. There's still two
2:00:14
influx. We're planning on maybe doing that at some point
2:00:16
but right now you can find community ones and download
2:00:18
them and print them now. I think ours is just
2:00:20
going to be for bits but I don't know. I'm
2:00:22
sure Nick Light will message me and I will ignore
2:00:24
that but that's fine. Any
2:00:27
updates with full-time not working on Amazon Firestick?
2:00:30
No. I
2:00:33
didn't know whatever did. Do you have something better?
2:00:37
Yeah. Sorry. We
2:00:40
were talking about Tizen TV the other day
2:00:42
and the Vimeo player not being able to
2:00:44
like Google Cast or Apple Cast or Cast
2:00:46
or something like that. I
2:00:48
don't know. Video sucks. What's
2:00:51
wrong with you? Why would you do this?
2:00:53
I don't... Like on purpose.
2:00:55
Yeah. Yeah.
2:00:57
Flowplane... Yeah, the freshness. One
2:01:01
of my main jobs these days is trying
2:01:03
to fight any amount of expansion to Flowplane
2:01:05
Scope because it's like my goodness we do
2:01:07
so many things already. I got
2:01:09
signed out of all my accounts and I have to log in again. I'm
2:01:13
actually not... Yeah, Jaden is saying in flowplane.com it's
2:01:16
a mobile app not a TV app. Yeah.
2:01:19
Yeah. Yeah. Fair
2:01:22
enough. Hello.
2:01:29
When are the new backpack
2:01:31
carabiner coming out? I
2:01:33
have no idea. Soon. Just
2:01:36
say soon to everything. Soon TM.
2:01:38
There you go. Yeah. I
2:01:40
know they're working on it. I think they like seeded some of
2:01:43
them out or something. And
2:01:45
they're waiting for feedback. Maybe that's not even
2:01:47
sort of true. I have no idea. Wrong
2:01:49
person to ask unfortunately. You
2:01:52
might be able to hit up create a round rise.
2:01:55
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go. Lioness leaves for one minute.
2:02:33
Hahahaha My
2:02:36
gosh! It's alive! Oh
2:02:40
my goodness. See you later TikTok. You're no
2:02:42
longer the favorite. Get out of
2:02:44
here. At least I got RGB now. Yeah,
2:02:48
so people watching on other
2:02:50
platforms, the dot WAN
2:02:53
dot show on TikTok is apparently
2:02:55
where we're streaming WAN show
2:02:58
in the future and that was the only
2:03:00
platform... Hahahaha We're
2:03:20
back again? What's
2:03:22
happening?! This
2:03:34
is why I'm supposed to stay behind the
2:03:36
desk. This is your fault. Okay, okay. Are
2:03:38
we gone again? Maybe? I'm
2:03:42
still showing. If chat can hear me,
2:03:44
when we're live and it's working, you
2:03:46
gotta spam uwu. And
2:03:48
when it dies, you gotta spam fwu. I want all of the
2:03:50
chats on all the platforms to go as fast as possible. When
2:03:53
I'm at my computer, I'm normally at ping 8 8 8 8.
2:03:55
Right? Ping 8 8 8 8 T. This
2:03:59
is my key. Keep Alive is
2:04:01
now Ooo-woo. Ooo-woo. This
2:04:03
is Mechanical Turk for DNS pings.
2:04:10
It's kind of working. It is working. We're getting
2:04:13
Ooo-woo. I have very effective status checks in all
2:04:15
of the chats that I could feed. Real time.
2:04:17
It's a lot faster than ping. All of the
2:04:19
chats I can see are just Ooo-woos right now.
2:04:21
And it's global. Which means we're
2:04:23
working. Yeah, exactly. It's a
2:04:25
way to communicate with all of the places
2:04:27
that we're streaming. Well, my heart rate's up.
2:04:29
I'm enjoying this. There
2:04:32
was one of the sponsor spots earlier. I
2:04:35
started cracking up because it was
2:04:37
like a cronus. I'm
2:04:40
going to give you guys another shout out, I guess. It
2:04:42
says, according to a study by Cyber Security Ventures, a cyber
2:04:44
attack took place every 39 seconds last year. Trust
2:04:47
me, being hacked is not fun. I
2:04:49
was like, it's kind of fun. This
2:04:53
is not a suggestion. Please don't do it. Certainly
2:04:56
had fun, yeah. But we had a wonderful time. As
2:05:00
long as there's no permanent damage, it
2:05:02
can be an exciting experience. Yeah,
2:05:04
we were talking about that and that rise
2:05:07
to action that happens only immediately. Did
2:05:09
I ever tell you the story about the car that
2:05:12
was set on fire outside of my house? No, but
2:05:14
everyone's still spamming Ooo-woos, so I know we're still good,
2:05:16
so please tell me. Nice. I
2:05:19
mean, when we got hacked, both of us immediately
2:05:21
jumped into action. And it was kind of like,
2:05:24
oh, okay, go. And
2:05:26
almost like detrimentally kind of activated,
2:05:28
I guess. But,
2:05:31
you know, I'd met a couple friends
2:05:33
at university, and I was driving them back
2:05:35
to my place for the first time, kind
2:05:37
of like, you know, new budding friendships and
2:05:39
like, all right, we're going to come hang
2:05:41
out. And as I'm pulling like up
2:05:43
my street and into my driveway, there's kind
2:05:46
of like a fire down at the end of the road,
2:05:49
which is weird, like a big fire in the
2:05:51
street. It's kind of down over a
2:05:53
hill. And So I didn't even
2:05:55
think, like I just stopped the car and got
2:05:58
out and then just ran down the street. Or.
2:06:00
Even say anything to likes it. Or
2:06:03
not I was like casual friends will be
2:06:05
a school and this is like the first
2:06:07
experience are going to go hang out with
2:06:09
them and uses the fire. he does leave.
2:06:13
I started sprinting down the street and I
2:06:15
get over the top of his hill and
2:06:17
like okay so it's a par set on
2:06:20
fire and ice prince up to witnesses. poor
2:06:22
woman there who is obviously a freaking out
2:06:24
and I just basically is because I understand
2:06:26
and the bystander effect. People. Just.
2:06:29
Freeze. And would you supposed to do? Is you
2:06:31
supposed to tell people what to do? And for me
2:06:33
it was like. Call. Nine One One.
2:06:36
On. But like. She
2:06:38
was on the phone. And. I just
2:06:40
get like pointing and yelling at her.
2:06:43
ah. How are you talking
2:06:45
to Nine one one are like are you talking
2:06:47
to the police or something like that. And so
2:06:49
this this guy. It was night so this guy
2:06:51
just comes soon running down though the hill. And
2:06:55
starts get hit or your the Are
2:06:57
you going to believe. That
2:06:59
are. So
2:07:04
I'm pretty sure that she might have been free devils.
2:07:08
Are the only way. This car
2:07:10
was not hers. Ah, it had
2:07:12
most likely been dumped there and
2:07:14
abandoned and set on fire. After
2:07:18
like a murder. So.
2:07:20
Not only that is someone screams
2:07:22
down her street, dumps, a car
2:07:24
sets and on fire and then
2:07:27
I like a few minutes later
2:07:29
this and random stranger. And
2:07:31
hurtling down the street anyway? Yes, as. it
2:07:35
may be don't scream at people who
2:07:37
are in a crisis who have already
2:07:39
done the thing that they need to
2:07:41
maybe not the greatest idea but i
2:07:44
will bring attention to that my entire
2:07:46
screen is just various chat spamming move
2:07:48
mighty do this if it was so
2:07:50
i'm enjoying very thoroughly usually i i
2:07:52
don't like people to spam sat super
2:07:54
hard know but right now while we're
2:07:56
still trying to figure out like what
2:07:58
even just happened it is kind of
2:08:00
useful to have like very up-to-date
2:08:02
real-time information based on if people
2:08:05
are receiving the stream or not.
2:08:07
For me, my favorite is the
2:08:09
iEmoji, just the single iEmoji, WO,
2:08:12
I'll post that and Chat will disappear immediately. I
2:08:15
really like, okay, Floatplane Chat is now drawing
2:08:17
Uwu with ASCII art, so
2:08:20
they're evolving. They
2:08:26
need help. What do I do, a Linus laptop?
2:08:28
Is that how that works? There you go. That
2:08:30
one. That's my favorite. Oh,
2:08:33
that's pretty good. Horrifying. That is,
2:08:35
yeah, that's like Eldritch Uwu. Stairs
2:08:38
into your soul. That
2:08:42
would make me feel better. Okay, so what were we talking
2:08:44
about? We were talking about... We had just got into UE4.
2:08:46
UE5.4. 5.4, yeah. 5.4,
2:08:48
yeah. So one
2:08:51
of the things that I learned recently
2:08:54
is that doing vectorized text in game
2:08:56
engines is extremely difficult,
2:08:59
which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. And
2:09:03
so vectors in general are really complicated
2:09:05
to actually do in a game engine.
2:09:08
And I was kind of racking my
2:09:10
brain around how I'm going to
2:09:12
be doing some... Sorry, YouTube Chat
2:09:14
has adopted your Uwu and they're
2:09:16
doing the iEmoji. Oh, I gotta
2:09:18
see that. Rare
2:09:21
win for YouTube Chat. Taking
2:09:25
all of the Chats is particularly enjoyable. I gotta get these
2:09:28
open. This is sick. I
2:09:30
will not give you $250. Yeah, please.
2:09:33
Yeah, no. It says the stream's
2:09:35
finished. Like, is it? No,
2:09:37
there we go. Yeah. Don't
2:09:39
scare me like that. Yeah, thanks, YouTube Chat. That's
2:09:41
horrible. I hate this. Oh, there's target eyes one.
2:09:43
Oh, the target eyes one is good. Yeah.
2:09:47
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. With the lips. Oh,
2:09:50
boy. Okay, sorry. Continue. I
2:09:53
don't know. This is also good. This
2:09:58
is literally my screen right now. This is all
2:10:00
the chat. Do
2:10:02
you want to show it up? Sure, yeah.
2:10:05
You don't have anything for... What
2:10:07
is that? That's
2:10:10
the log. Did I go to them? No,
2:10:12
that's what we can see. Okay, okay. I
2:10:15
was like, I'm like, hide it. No,
2:10:18
that's my command window. That's my external thing
2:10:20
to make sure that no frames are dropping.
2:10:22
Oh, cool. Okay. Oh,
2:10:25
my God. Anyway, so Unreal Engine 5.4 has
2:10:27
officially come out. It's been in preview for
2:10:29
a little while now. And
2:10:32
they have all of these new systems.
2:10:34
They've got this motion combining
2:10:36
for animations, this state-based thing
2:10:38
that's really, really robust
2:10:41
and simple to use. They've got a
2:10:43
whole bunch of new animation tools. But
2:10:45
the coolest thing is the motion graphics
2:10:47
design stuff. I don't know if you've
2:10:49
seen any of this. No, I just
2:10:51
saw that it was happening. Actually, bonkers.
2:10:54
I was like, oh, I've got it all flustered.
2:10:56
It was incredible. So
2:10:59
basically, you've got Niagara particle
2:11:02
simulations. You've got
2:11:04
the new Lumen engine,
2:11:07
right? So you can have unlimited polygons
2:11:10
and then real-time particle simulations,
2:11:12
real-time physical simulations, laser scans.
2:11:15
And now they've introduced vector
2:11:17
graphics as well as Boolean operations,
2:11:20
layers like in Photoshop. They have
2:11:22
a new texture designer like Substance
2:11:24
3D, Substance Material Editor,
2:11:26
that sort of thing. You can now do
2:11:28
that entirely in Unreal Engine.
2:11:31
And it's all real-time. So
2:11:33
if you're doing 3D modeling or motion graphics or stuff
2:11:35
like that, normally you do Cinema 4D or Blender or
2:11:38
something like that. But
2:11:41
now you can do that in real-time with
2:11:44
real-time lighting. And it's also all
2:11:46
programmable because it's still a
2:11:49
game engine, right? So you can use
2:11:51
blueprints and do your vector animations and
2:11:53
everything like that. So basically, this is
2:11:55
incredible for so many things. It's good
2:11:57
for me. I was going to say, what are you going to
2:11:59
use? it for. So I
2:12:03
wanted to use it for an intro video
2:12:05
as well as having some scalable UI elements.
2:12:09
One thing that I was
2:12:12
finding that were particularly difficult
2:12:14
inside Unreal Engine was being able
2:12:16
to adapt to different screen sizes. Okay,
2:12:19
so hopefully chat relax. At this point,
2:12:21
you guys are taking the spamming more
2:12:23
seriously than the Ubu. You
2:12:25
guys got to chill. I think some of you
2:12:28
even have bots running or auto clickers or some
2:12:30
or auto input things or something. Relax,
2:12:32
relax a little bit. At this point, I literally
2:12:34
can't even read it because it's going so fast.
2:12:36
You're going faster than YouTube chat. Significantly,
2:12:40
yeah. Chill, dude.
2:12:43
Chill. It's getting faster. You're not
2:12:45
helping. Maybe not. Okay,
2:12:47
I will stop addressing
2:12:49
it. Maybe it will
2:12:51
go away. Anyways, yeah, so you
2:12:53
want to use it for an intro video? Yeah,
2:12:56
so you
2:13:00
ever seen HAL 9000, 2001 Space, obviously,
2:13:02
that sort of thing? A lot of
2:13:04
those computer graphics that
2:13:07
were on the screens themselves physically
2:13:09
are very much like blank color plus
2:13:11
lines and they're all beautiful grids and
2:13:14
they look futuristic and it's all blocky
2:13:16
text, right? And that kind of theme
2:13:18
was also repeated in Alien and Aliens
2:13:20
and not sort of like 80s
2:13:23
level kind of CRT technology but a
2:13:25
vision of the future. And a lot
2:13:27
of it is extremely thin single
2:13:30
lines. And if I want to have this
2:13:33
be adaptable to different screen sizes, one
2:13:36
thing that I hate is
2:13:38
playing on my 4K C2 OLED and then
2:13:40
the textures are all
2:13:43
like squishy because
2:13:45
they're small. Now you can do that
2:13:47
with vectors which means unlimited
2:13:52
scaling. And then they've also introduced
2:13:54
real time Boolean operations. So you
2:13:56
can push objects into other objects
2:13:58
and you can also animate
2:14:02
like graphics over time. Define your push
2:14:04
objects into other objects. Boolean
2:14:06
operations would be like here's your cylinder
2:14:08
and then I want
2:14:11
to make a cut in this cylinder
2:14:13
so I have an invisible card and
2:14:15
then I push them together. So I
2:14:17
haven't altered this geometry. Traditionally Boolean
2:14:19
would be done in something like blender so
2:14:22
you would have to cut a hole
2:14:24
in the geometry. Because it's like add
2:14:26
and subtract. So if I take these
2:14:28
two objects and this one's a subtract, it would cut
2:14:31
into this or if I were to
2:14:33
have this as an additive object, it would be in
2:14:35
one place and it would still be one object but
2:14:37
it's made up of multiple objects
2:14:40
and the geometry becomes one
2:14:42
single entity. And
2:14:45
normally you would do that operation in something like
2:14:47
blender or traditional and
2:14:49
then you would you would like
2:14:51
finalize it so that object would
2:14:53
become solid and then you'd have to retop out the whole thing
2:14:56
right because all of those curves and things are going to
2:14:58
be destroyed. Now you can do that in real time so
2:15:00
I could animate the movement of objects through it and
2:15:03
then huge
2:15:05
thing most of my game is entirely made
2:15:07
of instances right. It's got like one cube
2:15:09
and then everything's instance so it's performative. You
2:15:12
can instance in the motion thing
2:15:16
and then simulate real-time nanite
2:15:18
particles on your objects and
2:15:21
with lumen as well say
2:15:23
the example I saw the other day was a donut.
2:15:27
They had like a billion. Donuts are surprisingly
2:15:29
common. Yeah yeah so obviously a cool
2:15:31
example but they had like a billion
2:15:33
donuts being rendered
2:15:35
in real time with shadows and
2:15:39
also real-time physics so every
2:15:44
single version is
2:15:47
incredible and this
2:15:50
one for me personally has a lot of
2:15:52
features that I'm going to touch a
2:15:54
lot of complaints with Unreal Engine for
2:15:56
a long time is that you're basically
2:15:58
modifying like you're making a mod for a first-person
2:16:00
shooter rather than making your own game. Right?
2:16:05
It's hard to do a different genre.
2:16:08
And it's slowly getting better. And
2:16:10
I think it's slowly becoming just
2:16:12
the most insane engine. Oh, yeah.
2:16:14
Obviously, it's like character-driven focused with
2:16:17
the animation tools. But I think we're also going to see a
2:16:19
lot more animators coming
2:16:21
out of this, too. Right? The
2:16:26
way that you can do rigging and animation things, and
2:16:28
they've automated a lot of the process, and they've also
2:16:30
made it a little bit more intuitive
2:16:32
to do and simple. For
2:16:34
me, learning 3D modeling is
2:16:36
almost impossible for characters, especially
2:16:38
because I just can't get past
2:16:40
weight painting. I don't know how to
2:16:43
make a good rig. And then
2:16:45
if you want to make changes to that rig,
2:16:47
you would have to take it out of Unreal,
2:16:49
right? And you'd have to re-export it and get
2:16:51
your objects back and then re-trigger everything. And maybe
2:16:53
your animations in Unreal were all broken. But
2:16:58
now it's a little bit more self-contained. I suspect
2:17:00
people might, especially people that have been in the
2:17:02
scene for a while, because when you start looking
2:17:04
into game development, there's a lot of use
2:17:06
this variety of tools
2:17:09
to accomplish your end goal, right? Yeah. It's
2:17:11
a very common engine. I
2:17:14
think people might underestimate how much needing
2:17:19
one thing will lower the barrier of
2:17:21
entry for people. This is going to
2:17:23
lower the barrier of entry for me, who
2:17:26
is already over the initial hump. I
2:17:28
know basically how all these programs
2:17:30
work and which ones I'm supposed to be using.
2:17:32
I'm still just garbage at them all. But
2:17:36
now that efficacy
2:17:38
of getting to a level, the
2:17:41
barriers for Blender are
2:17:43
like, OK, well, welcome to Blender. Learn 400
2:17:46
shortcuts, please. And then, of course, they
2:17:48
released 3.8. And I had to relearn
2:17:50
all of them, or whatever the version is,
2:17:52
that they changed it. And I had just
2:17:54
learned them all. And
2:17:56
that's me, because I'm a beginner, right? I think there's
2:17:59
also even just like. The
2:18:01
question of what game engine should I
2:18:03
use is already difficult enough for people to... What
2:18:05
game do you want to make? Yeah. I
2:18:07
don't know. Well then, I don't know, what do
2:18:09
you play? Yeah. I don't know, I
2:18:11
like lots of stuff. Well maybe I want to make... Why are
2:18:14
you making a game? What
2:18:16
is... Like after that kind of
2:18:19
lens of questioning is like, okay, well why?
2:18:23
Because you think it's fun or cool? I
2:18:25
think a lot of people, especially in like high school,
2:18:27
might be doing it just
2:18:29
to try something to learn
2:18:31
something, whatever. Yeah. But
2:18:34
you pick one. Learn all three at the same time.
2:18:36
But then, so you have decision paralysis on the
2:18:38
game engine, but then you also have decision paralysis
2:18:40
on all the things that are associated. It gets
2:18:42
worse. Yeah. And it does
2:18:44
not get better. And then, what everybody forgets about is audio. Yeah.
2:18:48
So now do you go with Fmod or... Well,
2:18:51
why? Pick one. Fmod
2:18:54
is... So Fmod is
2:18:56
like an audio plug-in for all
2:18:58
of these engines. And then
2:19:00
the direct competitor is Wwise. Wwise. Wwise,
2:19:03
I don't know actually how it's supposed to be
2:19:05
pronounced, unfortunately. I like Wwise. I like Wwise. It
2:19:08
goes along with... But
2:19:11
I know that Wwise is more
2:19:14
industry focused and Fmod is way
2:19:16
more approachable. Okay. Yeah.
2:19:18
It's like, okay, well, yeah, you could do
2:19:20
the audio inside your engine, but
2:19:23
it's better to have another tool that modifies
2:19:25
that. But now you're learning that. Like
2:19:27
it took me a while to understand that.
2:19:29
I even had to change my mindset when
2:19:32
doing OST work because now, like Celeste is
2:19:34
probably the best example that uses Fmod. I
2:19:36
think I've told you this before. I think
2:19:39
this is accurate, but Celeste has every single
2:19:41
piece of music playing simultaneously about the entire
2:19:43
game. And then it just
2:19:45
dynamically picks between them and fades between them when it's appropriate,
2:19:47
right? Okay. Okay.
2:19:50
And now I have to program that. So
2:19:53
not only are you working inside
2:19:56
Unity or your game engine, now
2:19:59
you have to have the conceptual kind of understanding
2:20:01
of this thing is happening,
2:20:04
what process and what
2:20:06
variable do I write that the game
2:20:09
is going to modify that is then referred
2:20:11
back to my audio system
2:20:13
that then gets modified there. And
2:20:16
there's two different layers of there, right? You have like
2:20:18
on or off, or you can have floating
2:20:21
point stuff. But then the
2:20:23
graphs that modify the sound are
2:20:26
inside Fmod are different. And
2:20:29
then you can also have global variables
2:20:31
inside Fmod to manage a bunch
2:20:33
of stuff. And
2:20:35
then there's bus tracks and reverb and
2:20:37
now I'm working with Steam Audio, which
2:20:40
is like a ray tracing system for
2:20:42
like real time projections. And then like...
2:20:47
I just wanted to make it RTS. I
2:20:52
want my 10 years back. So which one
2:20:54
do you... You said there's one that's more
2:20:56
industry focused and one that's more approachable. Which
2:20:59
one are you using for your non-hobby project?
2:21:01
I would use Fmod for both. Mostly
2:21:04
just because I kind of like Fmod. And that's the
2:21:07
more approachable one already? I think so. I
2:21:09
think actually for my personal project I will just try...
2:21:14
I think it's probably a good opportunity to learn
2:21:16
it. And if
2:21:18
it doesn't work, stick back to Fmod. I
2:21:22
learned Substance Painter. Substance
2:21:24
Painter is a lot easier to get
2:21:26
your head around after you understand how it works. It's
2:21:29
not like Photoshop. It
2:21:31
does it for you. But you have to kind of
2:21:34
make it do it for you. And
2:21:36
your personal project one, you said it's a 3D
2:21:39
game? It is a 3D game. Which one of the
2:21:41
reasons why I went with Unreal. I
2:21:44
did try to remake it in Go.Gado. But
2:21:48
do you know which one it is? I believe it's Go. I
2:21:51
hear people that... I like saying Go. Work
2:21:53
in it semi-professionally. I actually... Say it both
2:21:55
ways. I'm not sure. I
2:21:57
mean it might be like a bunch of different pronunciations.
2:22:00
Yeah, yeah, anyway, sorry, but yeah 3d 3d engine
2:22:05
But it's quite static the
2:22:07
problem is that there's a lot of rotations and there's a lot
2:22:09
of vector math and there's a lot of Automatic
2:22:12
generations and objects and
2:22:14
it can be a little bit complicated especially
2:22:16
trying to keep it performative Well,
2:22:19
and yeah, sorry. Sorry everyone just
2:22:21
noticed the dead pixel where? Is
2:22:24
a dead pixel? You
2:22:30
Crap I
2:22:33
think people have been spamming about it. Oh, no, we
2:22:36
look Yeah,
2:22:43
yeah Yeah,
2:22:51
I I
2:22:54
Mean these cameras are getting on a bit Luckily
2:22:58
at least people only noticed it now
2:23:00
so it's not gonna drive them nuts
2:23:02
for the whole stream That
2:23:07
one looks okay. Yeah, I think you're good. Oh No,
2:23:11
I Can't
2:23:15
even point it though. You know far I see
2:23:17
it too. Does my hand get
2:23:19
in this screen? Yeah up there. Yeah, okay
2:23:23
Well, all right So
2:23:26
it's not every camera but two
2:23:28
of them Whatever
2:23:42
Someone threw these at us, that's
2:23:45
cool You Get
2:23:50
out of here sponsorship What
2:23:55
cube 3d, what did that just happen? Okay,
2:23:57
don't think of it. Yes So
2:24:00
why did you decide to go with,
2:24:02
because you, blueprints. I like
2:24:04
Unreal because of blueprints. Okay. So
2:24:07
blueprints are phenomenal for a really approachable
2:24:09
way of getting programming done.
2:24:11
It's maybe, it's not quite as performative
2:24:13
as programming in C++. Obviously
2:24:17
there's some overhead, but they're
2:24:20
good. And you can also use
2:24:22
them to move into C++ because
2:24:24
you can write blueprints and each
2:24:26
little node is basically just a
2:24:28
C++ object. So you can dive
2:24:31
into them and write a custom blueprint
2:24:33
node. Yeah. So that's
2:24:35
a good answer and a good point. And I do
2:24:37
also think blueprints are cool. But what I really meant
2:24:39
was why did you decide to do 3D
2:24:41
for this game? Because the way that you've described it could be. It
2:24:43
needs to be. So why? Because
2:24:47
of the way that the space is represented. So
2:24:51
I wanted it to feel
2:24:53
claustrophobic. Oh, okay. And
2:24:58
the limiting space factor also
2:25:00
had to be in 3D. So you've
2:25:03
seen the Windows 95 screensaver with
2:25:05
the pipes, right? Yes. Love
2:25:09
it. Always loved it. But
2:25:12
as a game. Yeah. Like a
2:25:14
resource management? It's a resource management game. So you're
2:25:16
inside a cube. And
2:25:18
each of the walls are kind of like your factories
2:25:21
or whatever you want to think about it, however you
2:25:23
want to abstract it away. This one makes this number
2:25:25
go up. This one makes a different number go up.
2:25:27
And each of them have different requirements. And
2:25:30
you have to connect them together with theirs, basically.
2:25:32
Like pipes, right? And so if
2:25:34
you can think about laying
2:25:37
pipes in 3D to each
2:25:39
of the walls. And
2:25:42
I think there's something like 400 individual node
2:25:45
points that are available for
2:25:48
me to use, at least. Maybe not to
2:25:50
the players. That's a little bit ridiculous. And now we've got
2:25:52
400 nodes, 400 nodes, 400 nodes. And
2:25:56
now all of the wires have to connect to each other. Like
2:25:58
the difficulty is in... managing those connections
2:26:00
and figuring out where they go and
2:26:04
Like even just how to route them and how to
2:26:06
keep them organized I don't know if
2:26:09
you've ever played factory or something like that, but keeping the
2:26:11
belts all pretty and Like flowing
2:26:13
and organized is kind of like a fun
2:26:15
way to to play factory or you can
2:26:17
do spaghetti and
2:26:20
the resource in this game is The
2:26:25
walls Yeah, so
2:26:28
like the amount of space you have on
2:26:30
the walls, right? Yeah, and then yeah, I
2:26:32
guess you're like tech up over time and
2:26:34
whatnot. Yes, exactly But to replace something you
2:26:36
have to destroy it Which
2:26:39
might at least temporarily ruin
2:26:41
economy I'm assuming it's
2:26:43
actually like you're yourself. Oh
2:26:46
like So you die?
2:26:48
Oh Cuz
2:26:50
you're the computer that the outside
2:26:52
walls are powering and so you
2:26:54
can cause cascading failures So you
2:26:56
like you delete one little module
2:26:59
and you didn't lay out your wires, right? So all the wires go
2:27:01
away Right and
2:27:04
now you have to trace back and find it and you have like
2:27:06
30 40 seconds or something like that to
2:27:08
get the new Module and the wires plug back in Or
2:27:11
like yeah, I don't know you run out of
2:27:13
power and die critical failure failure blue screen And
2:27:15
I just added this new system called Abstraction
2:27:18
where you can add in another cube next
2:27:20
to it and have resources that pass through
2:27:22
the home Right
2:27:25
and I spent like three hours working on this
2:27:27
dolly zoom thing where the cube comes
2:27:29
into your view Which is normally an isometric right
2:27:31
and it pulls out into Orthogonal
2:27:36
right and then you can move around and pick your next
2:27:38
cube and then you zoom back in Right
2:27:40
and so now not only are you managing with the wires
2:27:42
that are going in the cube
2:27:45
You're now managing cubes on top
2:27:47
of cubes, right? So think of
2:27:50
my elevator pitches like factorial inside
2:27:52
a 40 hypercube. Yeah, right Yeah,
2:27:54
it's factorial in 3d space. But
2:27:56
if you fuck up the wires
2:27:58
you die. Sorry I
2:28:01
don't even think it's playing right now, whatever.
2:28:06
Oh, it's fine. Yeah,
2:28:08
okay. There's a fun sort of offshoot tangent.
2:28:10
Do you want to explain how the swear
2:28:12
button works? Sure. not
2:28:16
necessarily understand what that means. Oh, yeah.
2:28:19
So, swear button is a track inside
2:28:21
Reaper and
2:28:23
it has a tone that
2:28:26
is like the C-A-400 or
2:28:28
whatever it is that is
2:28:30
the swear noise and
2:28:32
then the swear button here actually
2:28:36
just solos that track which
2:28:39
mutes all of us because if I were
2:28:41
to put a swear bleep over just my
2:28:43
mic here, Luke's
2:28:45
mic would pick it up anyway, right? So, I have
2:28:47
to kill all of the mics simultaneously, right? Yeah.
2:28:50
So, that's a pretty quick and easy way to do
2:28:52
that. If you push
2:28:54
it, you still have to push the button.
2:28:57
Sorry. I'm
2:29:02
trying to go through merch messages while we're talking about this.
2:29:04
A significant amount of merch messages are just – You know,
2:29:06
worth it. Which
2:29:08
is making
2:29:11
my job a lot easier right now so I appreciate
2:29:13
it. Yeah. What else
2:29:15
can we talk about? I don't know. What's
2:29:17
going on? Dude, you mentioned something about trying
2:29:19
Godot. Oh, yeah. I've been doing
2:29:21
that. You can't just talk game dev all the time. I
2:29:24
have a lot of thoughts. They
2:29:26
will get me. Well, I mean, we're just tangent to
2:29:28
going to more game dev. Yeah. So,
2:29:31
I don't know. I'm just trying to keep the conversation – I'm new
2:29:33
at this, okay? Yeah. I mean, I've been doing it just as like
2:29:35
a learning thing. Good. I feel like
2:29:37
you're going on a direction of you might actually like do something
2:29:39
with this. I've made like 15
2:29:41
games. Sorry. I have failed at
2:29:44
making 15 games. So, that's a good way of
2:29:46
saying it. I'm planning on failing on making a
2:29:48
game. You will fail at making a lot of
2:29:50
games. Yeah. And the more games you fail
2:29:52
at making – this goes for you guys out there too – the
2:29:55
more times you fail, the more times
2:29:57
you've done a thing at all. Yeah,
2:30:00
yeah, so like but like I'm not
2:30:02
even necessarily the plan isn't even necessarily
2:30:05
to ever succeed. Yeah, I'm just having
2:30:07
fun Having
2:30:09
fun initially and then I'm kind of like
2:30:11
wow like I got past minimum
2:30:13
viable product Okay, I got to play it
2:30:15
for like the 20 seconds that you could
2:30:18
That was fun Did
2:30:21
you did you die? Did your robot die? I? Know
2:30:24
I mostly just die because I'm testing
2:30:26
to make sure it triggers properly, right? And
2:30:29
at what point is it you delete the wrong wire
2:30:31
you die you delete the end point that's feeding another
2:30:33
thing you die You delete the middle point you die
2:30:37
Right you need to keep that and so like redundant
2:30:39
systems, and I don't know it's gonna be ridiculous. I
2:30:41
think it'll be fun Yeah, I'm
2:30:43
still I'm still just working on clear codes clear
2:30:45
code has this tutorial on YouTube That's eleven and
2:30:47
a half hours long, and then you realize that
2:30:49
there's like a three-hour extension to it Oh, yeah,
2:30:52
I sent that to a friend recently. He wants
2:30:54
to get into game dev. It's fantastic. It's really
2:30:56
really good Even knows what he
2:30:58
wants to make That's nice,
2:31:00
and he hasn't changed what he wants to make in
2:31:02
a couple years I change what I want to make
2:31:04
essentially every time I sit down to work on it
2:31:06
But that's I'm completely okay with that right now because
2:31:09
I'll just like blow everything I've done And I want
2:31:11
to learn how to make this system. Yeah, yeah It's
2:31:13
like what if I what if I did these things
2:31:15
would that work and then I smash it together I'm
2:31:17
like no or yes, and crap it. Yeah Yeah
2:31:21
Here's some advice don't do anything
2:31:23
with an inventory system. Yeah, that sounds
2:31:26
great ever Yeah, my current plan is to do
2:31:28
so but I mean it'll probably change by next
2:31:30
you might actually know how to handle that Probably
2:31:32
better than I don't know I don't do not
2:31:34
make an RPG I
2:31:36
will shoot you that is a hundred percent the current
2:31:38
plan my current suck so The
2:31:40
game that I currently want to make The
2:31:47
game that I currently want to make I would
2:31:49
not be able to release because there's too much
2:31:51
like it entirely leans on
2:31:53
another IP Oh, yeah,
2:31:55
so I want to remake
2:31:58
in 2d a like old-school
2:32:01
RPG version of
2:32:04
the starting town for wood
2:32:06
elves in EverQuest 1 called
2:32:09
Kelithan. Okay. Because
2:32:12
that was like the first MMO that I played. I
2:32:16
remember how the city looked. I'm not even gonna... you
2:32:18
can go back and play it. There's like 1999 scape
2:32:20
or something like that. 2007 scape? 2007 scape. Why
2:32:25
did I say 99? I don't know. No idea.
2:32:28
OG. Well no,
2:32:31
that's RuneScape. No, no,
2:32:33
no. Project 99 is...
2:32:36
EverQuest. Okay. I think
2:32:38
it's called Project 99. Okay. Project
2:32:42
99. Yeah, Project 1999, classic
2:32:44
EverQuest. 2007 scape is RuneScape. That's
2:32:47
what I thought you meant. I'm talking about
2:32:49
EverQuest. Okay. So I played both of those games
2:32:51
when I was a wee one. But
2:32:54
yeah, I'm just like... my theory with that
2:32:56
is I can just make that like starting
2:32:58
area with you know the crushbone orcs.
2:33:00
I don't know why I remember this. I didn't play Project
2:33:02
99. I just remember this from when I was like 10.
2:33:04
Yeah. So I can make the orcs. I
2:33:08
can make that area. I can make the skeletons outside of
2:33:10
the town. I can make little bee things that you fight.
2:33:12
I can make the town. I can do all this other
2:33:14
kind of stuff. And by doing that, it gives me a
2:33:17
fairly defined scope. Mmm. And that's why
2:33:19
I wanted to do that. I don't plan
2:33:21
to make it a whole game, just the starting area.
2:33:23
I know the enemies. I know the areas. I don't
2:33:25
have to think about a map anymore. I don't have
2:33:27
to think about the music anymore. I don't have to
2:33:29
think about the names of things anymore. I just build
2:33:31
the things and try to make them work. And then
2:33:34
I'm gonna fail in 87 different ways. Then I
2:33:36
can't release it anyways. So it's like a project
2:33:38
that is intentionally
2:33:41
never going to work because I could never release
2:33:43
it because it's based on someone else's game. I
2:33:46
think another thing that I
2:33:49
ran into a lot when I was starting to
2:33:51
not even beyond scope, right? It was like what
2:33:53
system do I fail at? So
2:33:56
here's a concept for a game that's nice and
2:33:58
simple. How fast
2:34:00
can I get to where I can't do it anymore?
2:34:03
I really like RTS and I really like, obviously,
2:34:05
resource management games. And I
2:34:07
wanna go home and I wanna relax. So I'm not gonna be doing
2:34:10
anything that's super high energy and I don't
2:34:12
necessarily like the external pressure of like, hey,
2:34:15
do this thing or you die because
2:34:17
I'm an antagonist. Like
2:34:20
my game, you're your own antagonist.
2:34:22
It's your fault. You suck. You're
2:34:24
your worst enemy. So you're attempting to be better. And
2:34:27
so I wanted to move into like RTS style town
2:34:29
management just for fun and because I like
2:34:31
them and it's entertaining to work on. And
2:34:35
then I was like, oh, it's Friday. All
2:34:37
right, so now I just gotta make the little
2:34:39
dudes like walk around each other and
2:34:42
like get past objects that
2:34:45
I build. And then I
2:34:47
learned what A-Star Pathfinding was. And
2:34:50
I thought I'd have that done in like an afternoon. And
2:34:53
then I discovered that people write PhD thesis
2:34:55
on Pathfinding algorithms. Every once in a
2:34:58
while I like watching visualizations
2:35:00
of algorithms on YouTube because I find it fun and
2:35:02
Pathfinding ones are like super interesting. I did about a
2:35:04
week of that before I went, nope. Yeah. Okay,
2:35:07
so this entire genre is
2:35:10
off the checklist, right? So you're basically building like
2:35:12
a model of like, okay, well, I can't do
2:35:14
this. For me, I can't do art. Like
2:35:16
I can't do 3D art very well. Okay.
2:35:18
Right? Not super great at 2D art besides,
2:35:21
I don't know, marker stippling stuff. Can't really
2:35:23
make a game out of that. So
2:35:26
now I need a concept. People have made games out of a lot
2:35:28
of... I was gonna do a
2:35:30
game jam with one of made of clay, which would have been
2:35:32
fun. Yeah. Stop motion clay. Yeah.
2:35:35
Right? So you're kind of breaking down this level of...
2:35:38
What things am I good at slash enjoy slash want
2:35:40
to do? You don't even know what you can't do.
2:35:42
Totally. You're gonna have to... And it's weird and
2:35:44
it comes out of nowhere and there are things that you don't
2:35:46
expect. Like text
2:35:50
layout and like UX design.
2:35:54
Yeah, I hate that. I'm
2:35:56
not very good at this. Yeah. I
2:35:58
can't get it from where I see it. my brain to where it
2:36:01
looks pretty or right
2:36:03
and then you're going to look at your
2:36:05
projects and it's always going to be this like mark on it. I
2:36:08
don't know. I've always enjoyed projectiles. In
2:36:13
high school we had a course that
2:36:15
my absolutely fantastic teacher who's
2:36:17
a principal at a different school now,
2:36:20
but Mr. Troutl, he made a course for
2:36:22
the people in like effectively my grade because
2:36:24
he could tell we were all very interested
2:36:26
in this and it's called 3D game programming.
2:36:29
As far as I can tell he went to
2:36:31
BCIT over the summer and learned some stuff, turned
2:36:33
it into a high school course for us which
2:36:35
is just so sick. The
2:36:38
game that I made for that was I pulled
2:36:40
a battle state games making Tarkov and just downloaded
2:36:46
some assets instead of making them myself because
2:36:49
some people were more interested in making the 3D
2:36:51
models and I was like, I suck at this.
2:36:53
You do it well on steam in current year.
2:36:55
Yeah. Yeah. Asset flips are a bit
2:36:57
of a thing. I noticed that. It's a
2:37:00
coin nobody cares if you make your own assets either. Yeah. So
2:37:02
your main character in my game was a snowman and
2:37:05
you shot basketballs out of your face
2:37:07
at ninjas. Hello. I like to go. I
2:37:10
was just like whatever. It was like the easiest
2:37:12
to find models I could find and my whole
2:37:14
point was effectively I shouldn't have done this. I
2:37:16
was like trying to make a point like I
2:37:18
don't like making 3D models because I was a
2:37:20
dummy and just I guess wanted a lower grade.
2:37:22
I don't know. I was a stupid kid.
2:37:26
I wanted to focus on the mechanics of the game. So
2:37:28
I focused on the projectile
2:37:31
physics of this basketball basically. So
2:37:33
it could bounce and then off
2:37:36
of the varied terrain and then hit the
2:37:38
ninjas in different ways and stuff. I
2:37:43
don't know. I think I still have the
2:37:45
code somewhere but like. This gives me nightmares
2:37:47
about collision detection. Yeah
2:37:49
but I like that. I know. Yeah.
2:37:52
Right? Like
2:37:54
that's now your game. I'm literally doing
2:37:56
that stuff now. Yeah. I'm
2:37:58
stuck on collision detection because I'm I'm enjoying it. It's
2:38:00
been a fun process. And like what
2:38:03
is your collision update rate? Yes.
2:38:06
And is it decoupled from the frame rate? Yes,
2:38:10
it is. Good answer. But that
2:38:13
is, it is not, it's not, but... If
2:38:17
I remember correctly, Godot does, Godot
2:38:20
has built-in ways... Godot doesn't let you
2:38:23
do it the wrong way. They do let you.
2:38:25
Okay. But they throw warnings. Good, good, good.
2:38:27
If you can ignore them, it'll compile with
2:38:29
those warnings and you can play the game,
2:38:31
but it will be coupled to the frame
2:38:33
rate. But it makes it really
2:38:35
easy because when it throws one of those warnings,
2:38:37
it'll, it'll... Modern
2:38:40
IDEs are so fascinating to me because
2:38:42
back when I was doing programming heavily,
2:38:44
there was no GitHub and all the
2:38:46
IDs sucked and everything was terrible, and
2:38:49
now everything's so helpful and nice. But
2:38:51
it'll tell you exactly where the problem is
2:38:54
and link the documentation that will help
2:38:56
you solve it. So like I
2:38:58
ran into this problem... ClearCode
2:39:00
ended up explaining it like seconds after I dove
2:39:02
through it, which was fine, but... I
2:39:06
dove through the problem because I was like, this is
2:39:08
dumb, because I was watching the ClearCode video and
2:39:11
I could see the thing moving across his screen and
2:39:13
I could see it moving across my screen. I was
2:39:15
like, these are not at the same rate. Something is
2:39:17
wrong. I think it's tied to frame rate. This is
2:39:19
terrifying. I have to fix
2:39:21
this. And then he ends up explaining how
2:39:24
to fix it in this video. It's actually
2:39:26
super, super easy. There's stuff built into Godot
2:39:28
to help you fix timing, which is great.
2:39:30
It's really nice. It's super
2:39:32
easy to mess up in Unreal Engine
2:39:34
because like EventTech is right there. You
2:39:37
can just drag off of it, but I
2:39:39
want my game to run at, you know, 140, 200 FPS. I
2:39:45
can't be searching through arrays every...
2:39:51
You know, what, like one millisecond? I
2:39:55
don't think so. It's just unperformative,
2:39:57
right? It's also just like if you... you
2:40:00
aim to make a game super performant, the
2:40:02
main benefit in my mind is
2:40:05
that it can
2:40:08
be not performant and still playable.
2:40:10
If you can play it on something that's junk and
2:40:13
it's still a playable game. To
2:40:15
me, most games, 240 FPS, I'm too
2:40:17
old to be FPS competitive. It's
2:40:21
not going to make a difference for me. Yeah, but
2:40:23
that's one of my... I have two core tenets
2:40:25
for this. Support
2:40:27
any screen resolution in
2:40:29
any aspect ratio and
2:40:32
have it run at high refresh rate. I'm
2:40:35
struggling because the game view is
2:40:38
one-to-one. Okay. Because it's
2:40:41
a cube, you're inside a cube. Okay,
2:40:43
yeah. So that's
2:40:46
not super hard to render. It's
2:40:49
limited, right? Yeah.
2:40:53
Where do you put the UI when you're on a Super
2:40:55
Ultra Wide? Like, I've got a Super Ultra
2:40:57
Wide on my desk there, and so I'm playing on this.
2:41:00
How do I make use of, like, two
2:41:02
feet of black bars? Yeah.
2:41:06
I feel like... So there's, like, those kinds of
2:41:08
problems too, right? I feel like my solution, because
2:41:11
this is stuff I don't like working on, so
2:41:13
I feel like my solution would just be, like,
2:41:15
stretch graphic of some kind. I would
2:41:17
just... I just have them here, but then
2:41:19
they're tabbed. No, I mean, like, just, yeah,
2:41:21
have the UI be tucked in, and then
2:41:24
so you don't have black bars, just, like, make
2:41:27
it... take some, like, graphic that's,
2:41:29
like, the inside of a computer system to
2:41:31
some degree, and then just stretch until the
2:41:34
end. Like, whatever. Cool. That's
2:41:36
actually a great idea. I don't know if it's a great idea,
2:41:38
but that's the type of thing that I would do, because I'm
2:41:40
just, like, I don't want to deal with this problem, go away.
2:41:42
There's a lot of stuff in the UI that's tied to tick,
2:41:44
or that's tied to updates that need to
2:41:47
happen constantly, because, you know, you delete something,
2:41:51
the propagation might take a couple seconds, right?
2:41:55
And the bricks themselves are constantly checking
2:41:57
to make sure that they're still... alive,
2:42:01
basically. They have their requirements met, right? And
2:42:03
so if I was doing that 200 times
2:42:05
a second, it would be insane.
2:42:09
So, you know, like
2:42:12
one every 10th of a
2:42:15
second. It's totally
2:42:17
fine. Yeah. Let's try to
2:42:19
power through some merge messages and then bring
2:42:21
this thing to an end. I've
2:42:24
got one for you, which is about what
2:42:26
we're currently talking about, so we're really not
2:42:28
going that far off. But Dan, isn't your
2:42:30
game basically an allegory for self-improvement? You have
2:42:32
to leave your comfort zone in order to
2:42:34
advance. Yes,
2:42:38
it is. And I've
2:42:42
built it on the kind of the
2:42:45
mindset is like shelves. So, you know, I've climbed
2:42:47
up to this level. I'm comfortable
2:42:49
here. Everything's fine. I
2:42:51
mean, the game's called a copacetic, right?
2:42:53
So it's
2:42:56
cool. You know, you're cool. You're
2:42:58
fine. But you can't go anywhere. Like
2:43:00
you can't get to the next level. You can't get
2:43:02
the next research. You can't expand at all. And
2:43:05
you have to do something
2:43:07
scary. I mean, you can prepare for it. That's the
2:43:09
nice thing about it. It's not there's no time pressure.
2:43:11
You can sit there for you turn the game off.
2:43:14
You can walk away forever and you're not going to
2:43:16
have a problem. But you're
2:43:18
not going anywhere until you start
2:43:20
destroying things so
2:43:22
that they can be built back better. Like
2:43:27
poetry, you know, they rhyme. Ah,
2:43:30
very nice. I've got another one
2:43:32
for probably you. Hey,
2:43:34
Dan and Luke, whatever. I've been using
2:43:36
Tinkercad for all my 3D print modeling.
2:43:39
Really want to start using a more
2:43:41
in-depth CAD software. What do you use
2:43:43
slash recommend? That's entirely on you. I
2:43:46
use SolidWorks, which
2:43:49
is not necessarily for everyone. There's
2:43:53
loads of them. I'm not a huge
2:43:55
fan of... I
2:44:00
remember what the other one is now, the Autodesk products.
2:44:02
Fusion 360, thank you. Mostly
2:44:05
because what they've been doing to creators and
2:44:07
people that use it, they used to have a discounted
2:44:09
maker tier. Like
2:44:12
if you didn't really make money with it, you could
2:44:15
learn it. And then they did a
2:44:17
Tarkov, where they just
2:44:19
got rid of that and now you have to pay
2:44:21
a subscription and everything's cloud-based and it's
2:44:23
really expensive. Not that Solve
2:44:25
works any better, they're extremely
2:44:27
expensive. So there's lots
2:44:30
of free parametric stuff. I'd say
2:44:32
that Solve Works is attainable to
2:44:34
people, if you really wanna learn it. I
2:44:40
don't know. For a lot of people. Rhino.
2:44:43
For a lot of people. For a lot of people.
2:44:45
Yeah, get on Solve Works. Solve Works will teach you a
2:44:47
lot of transferable skills. But
2:44:50
parametric is the skill. I'm
2:44:54
really good at parametric modeling, not like some of
2:44:56
the designers we have in CW, but
2:44:59
I understand parametric model. I don't
2:45:01
understand Blender. Like
2:45:03
I've been modeling since high school, right? But
2:45:07
I can make cubes nice. I
2:45:10
can't make people. Right,
2:45:13
makes sense. There's loads of free ones
2:45:15
and there's loads of good ones. Rhino is probably one to look at.
2:45:19
But yeah, Solve Works. Hi DLL, I recently
2:45:21
had to log into a laptop that I
2:45:23
hadn't used in 15 years. Not
2:45:26
knowing my password, I used fingerprint login.
2:45:29
What are your thoughts regarding the
2:45:31
use of biometrics with them being
2:45:33
hard to change? Hard
2:45:36
to change. Wider. Like
2:45:38
your own biometrics? Stoned. Hard
2:45:41
to change. Really hot
2:45:43
car. Oh my goodness. Wow.
2:45:49
That's an interesting question. That
2:45:52
is an interesting question. What happens
2:45:54
if you lose your finger in a government facility?
2:46:00
Slightly oddly specific. It'd
2:46:04
be harder at keys when we're
2:46:06
on camera. Do we have to
2:46:08
start, like, doing this sort of
2:46:10
thing? I think our cameras
2:46:12
are maybe not good enough for that. No, they're
2:46:15
breaking. I gotta get new cameras now. Yeah, yeah.
2:46:17
Where is it? It's right here. Here?
2:46:20
Oh, well. We
2:46:24
don't have any more of these. Yeah,
2:46:26
we are. This is literally all three of them, isn't it?
2:46:28
Yeah, that's right. And someone pointed out apparently the one that
2:46:30
we thought was fine actually does have one. Your one? I
2:46:33
don't know what one it was, because I didn't see it. Uh,
2:46:36
what is it? Loop
2:46:38
cam. Oh, I still don't see it. Where?
2:46:41
We have that thing on the screen. Oh, is that covering
2:46:43
it? There's a thing on
2:46:45
the screen that you guys can't see that we can see.
2:46:47
Is it behind that? Let me know when I get it. Uh,
2:46:50
you're over it, yeah. Not
2:46:53
over the bar, though. There you go. I
2:46:56
still don't see it. Oh,
2:47:05
there it is. So it was behind the thing.
2:47:07
Oh, that sucks. Well. Cool. Okay,
2:47:10
whatever. Oh, biometrics. I
2:47:13
think biometrics are pretty cool, actually. Are you going to have them not
2:47:16
changing? I
2:47:20
mean, mostly. That's
2:47:22
okay. Yeah. If it was face
2:47:24
ID, would it no longer recognize you? If
2:47:27
it's been 15 years. It absolutely could. Also,
2:47:30
if, say, heaven forbid, there was like
2:47:32
an acid attack or something that happened,
2:47:34
like, yeah. Bad shaving. Yeah.
2:47:37
Usually, I, and
2:47:39
I think this was the case in this situation
2:47:41
as well, though, usually biometric logins are backed up
2:47:43
by passwords. So it's
2:47:45
not your only way to get in. Which is
2:47:48
why I generally think they're cool. Should
2:47:51
we move to chips? Embedded.
2:47:54
I always like, I knew
2:47:57
some biohacker dudes. and
2:48:00
I was in high school that were doing that, like
2:48:03
way before it was, it's
2:48:06
not normal now, but this was like way back,
2:48:08
and they sent me a video of them just
2:48:10
like hanging out in this like basement suite that
2:48:12
they all rented together, like stabbing
2:48:15
themselves with- Giant needles. Yeah.
2:48:17
I've always kind of wanted the magnet. No, we
2:48:19
do a fingerprint night. Yeah. Fingertip magazine.
2:48:21
You can get one of those things. Yeah,
2:48:24
that's pretty interesting. Anyways,
2:48:28
that's a topic I have no right to talk about. With
2:48:32
that attitude, get some experience there, look. Steven D.
2:48:34
Steven D says, I'm almost four months behind. It
2:48:36
would be awesome if you could read this message
2:48:38
on stream to remind me that I sent a
2:48:41
merch message when I finally catch up. There you
2:48:43
go, done. Hey,
2:48:46
L and D, I hope you're doing well. I
2:48:48
recently started my data center career
2:48:51
with Amazon, and things have
2:48:53
been interesting. What is the jankiest
2:48:55
thing you've seen a big company do not counting
2:48:57
L and D? I have an answer, do you?
2:49:01
I was able to pre-think about this, so I could go first if you want.
2:49:04
Not sure. I've
2:49:07
seen a like
2:49:10
server room type situation where
2:49:12
the power was controlled with a light switch,
2:49:18
and the light switch was not in like a security box or
2:49:20
anything, there was just like a piece of paper that
2:49:23
was like, don't flip! Regular
2:49:25
UPS testing. Yeah.
2:49:29
That's all it was. It's very
2:49:31
astute business decision. Yeah.
2:49:35
I've also seen the like, hey,
2:49:38
the server is this laptop. Don't
2:49:41
unplug it. I
2:49:45
think that, okay, jankiest thing, I worked at
2:49:47
a job and they needed a microwave link.
2:49:51
But they couldn't really get a very expensive,
2:49:53
powerful one, right? They're
2:49:55
kind of difficult to get, you need
2:49:58
special regulations. Not if you set the country. to
2:50:00
a different country and
2:50:03
then just set it to like nuclear power
2:50:05
levels of bird melting and
2:50:09
can go whatever distance you want. I
2:50:12
don't know if that's janky or just extremely
2:50:15
reckless but I think it was zap-strapped to
2:50:17
a building like oh it just had this
2:50:19
pole. We bought this giant microwave transmitter off of
2:50:22
eBay for like 300 bucks. We're
2:50:24
just going to zap-strapped it and set it
2:50:26
to melt birds. But it gets
2:50:28
200 feet now. It's
2:50:32
solved. It's solved. Don't
2:50:34
walk under it. What
2:50:36
happens? What? Did you create
2:50:39
this one? What happens? Oh, streak.
2:50:41
My brain. I also read strip. I
2:50:44
read steak. Oh no, steak. Yeah,
2:50:46
steak. Okay,
2:50:48
so hey Dan and Luke and Linus.
2:50:50
What happens when the streak breaks? Will
2:50:53
you start a new one or open
2:50:55
WAN to other hosts? Will you plan
2:50:57
to replace who has been in established
2:51:01
positions for some time? I
2:51:04
think this is one of those situations where I'm going to give the
2:51:06
really annoying answer if the streak's not going to break. I
2:51:08
don't think so. Yeah, that's kind of the
2:51:10
idea. I think at this point we've all
2:51:13
described the like relatively atomic
2:51:15
scenarios that we would go through in
2:51:17
order to keep the streak going. So
2:51:20
I don't
2:51:23
necessarily really see it happening. I
2:51:27
don't know. I don't think so. I
2:51:29
would like to, like I've
2:51:31
done the production remote. I
2:51:34
would like to try it from far away.
2:51:37
Vancouver Island in October. Yeah, yeah.
2:51:40
Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah. Yeah,
2:51:43
how remote have you done the stream? My
2:51:45
house. Yeah, okay. I
2:51:48
think it's fine. There will just be
2:51:50
little delays. Not even because
2:51:52
I'm coming in like, I don't
2:51:55
know, like basically Linus's level, right?
2:51:57
It's 300 milliseconds or less. That's
2:52:00
what I'm saying, like very little, yeah, shouldn't
2:52:03
even really matter much. But
2:52:05
yeah, I don't know. There is no plan
2:52:07
in place because I don't think, I think
2:52:09
we're all rather stubborn people. Yeah,
2:52:12
the streak is to do
2:52:14
it every week forever.
2:52:17
Yeah. Hi, DL. Luke,
2:52:20
have you watched AMC's show Halt
2:52:22
and Catch Fire? I strongly recommend
2:52:24
it. No, never heard of it.
2:52:28
Is AMC watchable up here without
2:52:32
Linux ISOs? I
2:52:37
don't know. I
2:52:39
don't know about any of these. Sean
2:52:43
is... I don't watch TV,
2:52:45
sure. Sean says awesome show, Halt and
2:52:47
Catch Fire. What is this? It's like
2:52:50
a birth of computers. Oh!
2:52:53
But as a drama and it's fun. It's very
2:52:55
fun. Cool. But not
2:52:57
that I have seen it or consume any media because...
2:53:00
No, of course not. Just
2:53:02
a server full of Linux ISOs.
2:53:05
Anyways, I think that's it. I think
2:53:07
we're done. I think we just
2:53:09
finished the show. Okay. So do
2:53:11
you want to say the line? You
2:53:14
don't have to. I can even
2:53:16
remember. I'm mostly focused on just getting ready to
2:53:18
push this button in order you guys... I'll do
2:53:20
both the lines. Thanks for tuning in
2:53:23
to The WAN Show. Tune
2:53:25
in next week. Same
2:53:27
bad time, same bad channel. Except it
2:53:29
will actually be a different time. Oh
2:53:32
yeah. No, it'll be later than this.
2:53:35
This is when we're supposed to
2:53:37
start. Yeah, we were supposed to start 10 minutes ago.
2:53:41
Never gonna happen. Anyways, bye! Push the
2:53:43
button. Now
2:53:45
I Have to run back over to the other computer.
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