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What is up you guys and welcome
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to the Taiwan show. We're
0:06
here at Computex where I spent
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about maybe two
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hours on the show floor
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and Luke spent even less.
0:15
Probably about the same actually. Really? No. High five. Good
0:18
job. Yeah. We've got a lot
0:20
of great topics for you guys today. Starting
0:23
of course with IKEA
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apparently hiring digital employees to
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work at the Roblox store.
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Dude, is the metaverse actually real?
0:35
People wanted work from home. They
0:38
did, but did they want to work from Roblox? Probably not.
0:41
In other news, Intel wants
0:44
to fight ARM while AMD appeals
0:46
to tradition. But
0:48
the big news of course this
0:50
year at Computex is Qualcomm and
0:52
their Snapdragon X Plus and Snapdragon
0:54
X Elite processors. I
0:57
did get to be hands on with them,
0:59
which is pretty exciting. We're going to be
1:01
talking about that later. What else we got today, Luke? Nvidia
1:04
is number two. How dare you? Look,
1:07
I don't always agree with them, but you can't call them
1:09
that. You
1:13
prepped that. You had that prepared. That was
1:16
preemptive. I don't know how I feel about
1:18
that. What else?
1:20
I don't know. Overpriced maybe,
1:23
but you can't say the quality is... Number two. You
1:26
know, like that, right? You have
1:28
Nvidia graphics card in there. You got some number two in there.
1:32
And we have an update on the car thing stuff. We'll talk about
1:34
that I guess. Yeah, sure. We'll talk about Spotify car
1:36
thing. Oh, how
1:38
do we roll the intro? I guess Dan does it. Sound
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show is brought to you today
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by AG1, Squarespace, and Manscaped. Why
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don't we jump straight into our headline topic this week,
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which is that IKEA
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is launching the
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Co-worker game, a virtual experience
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inside Roblox whose gameplay will
2:22
apparently involve serving
2:24
meatballs and
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decorating showrooms. The
2:29
game is open to anyone, the
2:32
broader Roblox community, gamers, and
2:34
IKEA fans alike. I
2:37
do wonder how much overlap
2:39
there is between those groups. This
2:42
is according to IKEA's press statement. IKEA
2:45
is also hiring 10 people
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for fully remote virtual roles
2:49
in this virtual IKEA universe
2:52
at a rate of 13.15
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pounds per hour, which IKEA
2:56
says is aligned with the
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pay recommendations of the Living
3:00
Wage Foundation for the City
3:02
of London. I pretty
3:04
much promise you that nobody is living in
3:07
London for 13.15 pounds per hour, but that's
3:12
a whole separate conversation. The
3:15
hiring process will involve an
3:17
interview, hiring questionnaire, and
3:19
the submission of a resume, and applicants from
3:21
the UK and Ireland must be at least
3:23
18 years old. Wait,
3:25
so do you have to live in the UK or
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Ireland? I don't know. Probably not. If
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you're working for 13.15 pounds an hour, you
3:32
are probably not living many places
3:34
in the
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UK or Ireland. Yeah, why is there only rules
3:40
for there? I
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don't know. Maybe they're willing to hire children
3:45
as long as they're not in the UK
3:47
and Ireland. I legitimately don't know. Weird,
3:51
okay. Quote,
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we're excited to be the first
3:57
brand to launch paid work on
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Roblox. to showcase how we do
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careers differently, bringing our unique careers
4:04
philosophy to life. At
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IKEA, there is no set route to
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career progression. Our coworkers are
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able to change roles, switch departments,
4:13
and grow in any direction they
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choose both in the game or
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in the real world. To
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clarify, paid players must be 18 plus
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and in the UK or Republic of
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Ireland to apply. Okay, so you
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do have to be in the UK and Republic
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of Ireland. Here's my
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question for you. When you were 18, would
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you apply for this? What
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do you even do? You
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hang out, like you've got the press release
4:42
open. Do
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you hang out in
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the store? Is it a
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store? It seems
4:51
to be like IKEA employee simulator, but some
4:53
of them are paid. I
4:55
don't know how you help
4:57
customers and stuff when
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the game is people
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being what you are, isn't it? I
5:05
don't know. Maybe you manage their shifts, Luke.
5:08
Maybe you're not thinking metaverse enough.
5:10
Maybe you're like the dungeon master
5:12
of this IKEA simulator. You
5:14
create events and stuff. I
5:16
have no idea. Sure. You could spawn customers.
5:19
I might apply for it, but to be
5:21
completely honest, at that time,
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I was sitting in the room, seeking employment
5:25
that paid more than this even back then,
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and there was options for that. Well,
5:30
hold on. Hold on. 13.15 pounds. What
5:34
the devil is that? Hold on. 13.15
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pounds to Canadian dollars. Okay,
5:39
here we go. Okay. That's
5:42
23 Canadian dollars an hour. It's actually not too bad.
5:44
Yeah. When I was that age, I was
5:46
making... Well, hold on a second though, because
5:48
we got to convert. In
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2003, I was making
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16 Canadian dollars an hour,
5:56
so inflation calculator.
6:00
Sure, I'll use a US one. For 2003? But
6:07
that's when I was working. Got it, okay. That's
6:09
when I got my first job out of high school and I
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was making the same the year after. So, 2003,
6:14
$16 an hour is what I was making. Okay,
6:20
27, 27. So,
6:25
I was ahead. All
6:28
right. But in fairness, I
6:30
had to get certifications in
6:32
order to do my job. I was working
6:34
as a lifeguard and swimming lessons teacher. So,
6:37
that was probably a grand
6:39
total of about $1,500 in
6:42
certifications. Not to mention the
6:44
unpaid time. Which is out of reach for some people.
6:46
Right, so I'm
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paying to invest additional time
6:52
in getting those certifications. So, how many hours
6:54
would I have had? At $4 an hour,
6:56
hold on. I
6:59
don't even cover my certification cost. So,
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nah, nah, nah, nah, divided by four. I
7:04
don't even cover my certification cost until I've worked
7:06
hundreds of hours. Right,
7:09
so yeah, realistically, it's maybe
7:11
not that bad. Except that the problem
7:14
is that I've been to London. Yeah.
7:19
And like. I mean, it's not only London though. I
7:22
just mean, my point is just that
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it's not as simple as your cost of living
7:26
is just like currency conversion.
7:29
Totally. Like things just
7:31
cost more over there to
7:34
my crappy Canadian currency. Even compared to
7:36
currency. Like you can't just, yeah, you
7:38
can't just convert your currency. So, the
7:40
fact that they're making 13 pounds or
7:43
whatever it is an hour. If things
7:45
just cost more because
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they're pounds or something then it doesn't really
7:50
help you. So, the math that
7:52
we're doing is not fully representative. Really
7:54
what I wanted to talk about is
7:57
more along the lines of like, would you have been willing
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to work? in a virtual store.
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Would you have applied to work in a virtual store?
8:03
Oh yeah, I mean, I applied for whatever. At
8:06
that age, like, I don't know, who cares? Okay,
8:11
I'm gonna try this one more time without
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just like indiscriminately applying
8:15
to everything. With this, okay, out of
8:18
the 10 jobs you applied to, with
8:21
this rank, which one would you want? I
8:24
would have probably wanted the one that I had at the
8:26
time. At that time, Geek Squad was a separate entity to
8:28
Best Buy and it was actually like super cool. I
8:31
definitely would have preferred the job that I had
8:33
at that time over this, but it is definitely
8:35
also something that I would have considered. I think
8:37
out of the top 10, it
8:41
would probably have been like three or four. It's
8:44
not too bad. You can stay at home at
8:46
that point in time, if you could have spent
8:48
less on gas, it's
8:51
actually like a really big deal. When you're
8:54
making a huge
8:56
amount of income is you're like how much
8:58
money after your expenses you have. And when
9:00
you're making a very low amount of money,
9:02
the amount of money after expenses is really
9:04
small. So if you can reduce those expenses,
9:06
like maintenance on car, gas, stuff like that,
9:08
it's actually super beneficial. Luke, net
9:11
profit versus gross profit tips. Yeah, it's
9:13
a big deal. Yeah, 100%. Honestly,
9:17
not quite this job. Like I don't
9:20
really have any particular love for IKEA. Yeah,
9:22
I don't mean either. Yeah, I don't think
9:24
there's like an IKEA passion that could be
9:26
awakened in the way. And dealing with like
9:28
small children screaming about their digital meatballs not
9:30
being good enough doesn't sound exactly entertaining. Or
9:32
whatever, like I don't even know exactly what
9:34
this is. What the job is, yeah, I
9:36
don't know. But with that said, you know
9:38
what job I would have applied for if
9:40
it existed? If NCIX,
9:43
whose forums I would hang out on
9:45
for hours a day, if
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they had like, even if it
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didn't have an hourly rate, if
9:52
they just had like a commission based...
9:56
You probably would have preferred that over hourly rate. I probably
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would have. rushed it. If
10:00
I could just hang out in the NCIX
10:03
virtual store and people could just ask
10:05
me for help configuring their computer or
10:07
whatever and you know all they
10:09
gave me, all NCIX would have had to give
10:11
me is like a you know like
10:13
a you know little name tag or
10:15
whatever like special recognition that my character
10:18
you know kind of worked at the store.
10:20
Maybe your the name above your head is
10:22
like a slightly different colors. Yeah or whatever
10:24
it is and honestly they
10:26
could have just because they they kind of
10:29
had similar systems for the forum already
10:31
anyway. They were mostly just based on
10:33
like post count in those
10:35
days unfortunately. Not always a great indicator. Not
10:37
always the best but they did
10:39
also have like a system for experts
10:41
I think. The lines of code version
10:44
of full contribution. Yeah yeah but man
10:46
I would have I would have loved
10:48
that. I would have gotten home from
10:50
school and like put
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on my my virtual you know
10:54
tie and button-up shirt and
10:57
I would have gone and sold computers man. I would
10:59
have been so into it. I feel like that that
11:01
might have almost been a problem for you.
11:04
You only spent like too much time doing it. Maybe
11:06
but if I was making money like is
11:09
that really that then I could
11:11
buy more computers. Yeah win-win. I
11:13
feel like that is what the Linus of that time would have
11:15
done. Oh 100 percent yeah 100 percent and I could be like
11:19
only like half tuned into that at the
11:21
time right. I could be like
11:24
half tuned into that and then I could
11:26
be like half tuned into you know my
11:28
other forums like my red flag deals forum
11:30
wheeling and dealing. Only
11:33
you know monitors didn't weigh 50 pounds
11:35
back then then I could have just
11:37
had like I could have got some
11:39
online poker going on up here get
11:41
some like like day trading you know
11:43
forex right here and like yeah
11:46
man. I'm failing to see like
11:48
is this a full-time position or
11:50
not. I
11:52
think this feels intentionally
11:55
vague and nebulous to me. Yeah
11:57
it feels like they just want people like us to talk about
11:59
it to be honest. because it's only
12:01
10 positions. If they were
12:03
doing like actual real work, I suspect
12:05
the amount of people, especially at the
12:07
beginning that flood this game. You just
12:09
call the metaverse, not actual real work.
12:13
I wish I had my swear button. I
12:15
wish I had my bleep button so I
12:17
could tell you what a guy you're being.
12:23
Yeah, what a number two you're behaving
12:25
like. Okay, that is real
12:27
work. They're doing real work just
12:29
because they're sitting with their Cheetos
12:32
and their Mountain Dew in
12:34
their- And their digital meatballs. And their digital
12:36
meatballs. Man,
12:39
my digital meatballs are cooking right now. Yeah.
12:42
I got a computer and a pillow
12:44
on my lap and we are in
12:46
Taiwan heat because we liked the vibe
12:48
of this little outdoor meeting area. We
12:50
could have been inside where the air
12:53
conditioning is, but we love you guys
12:55
so much. We wanted you to share
12:57
in the outdoors of Taiwan with us.
13:00
What do you want to talk about next? Okay,
13:03
let's see. Intel
13:06
wants to fight arm. Let's do it. At
13:08
Computex, Intel gave a deeper look
13:10
into its upcoming lunar lake architecture.
13:13
The company is claiming improvement across
13:15
the board, though with heavy emphasis
13:17
on efficiency and battery life, a
13:20
38% to 68% increase in instructions per clock
13:22
for E cores, compared to a 14% increase
13:24
for P cores. Intel
13:27
is also claiming a 50% performance
13:29
gain for its integrated graphics, which
13:31
will be using a low powered
13:34
variant of Intel's XE2 Battle Major.
13:36
Yeah, Battle Major just kind of snuck
13:38
up on me here. I don't know
13:40
why, but I was kind
13:42
of expecting it to come as a discrete
13:44
GPU first. And then here it is, boom,
13:46
onboard graphics, Battle Major's here, let's go. I
13:50
heard some folks got hands-on with it at
13:52
some point, maybe somewhere. And-
13:54
I wonder,
13:57
because this is pretty abnormal. Usually you'd
13:59
have the- I wonder if this will help drivers
14:01
though. I
14:04
hope so. Help drivers for the discrete GPU
14:07
people. Yeah, no, no, I see
14:09
what you mean where like, if,
14:11
because, because Intel is shipping
14:13
apparently a negligible
14:16
number of discrete arc GPUs,
14:18
according to the latest market share trends,
14:20
which have Nvidia at almost 90% now.
14:22
Oof. Wild, eh?
14:25
But Intel is apparently
14:27
negligible. And
14:29
so when you're shipping a negligible
14:31
number of boards, I imagine that
14:34
the incentive to prioritize development of
14:36
it, even though to Intel's credit, they
14:38
have really chipped away at arc
14:40
alchemists and tried to make it as working
14:44
as it could be. But
14:47
when you're shipping not that many compared
14:49
to when all of a sudden this
14:51
product that is like a do or
14:53
die product for you lunar Lake is
14:55
going up against not just AMD, but
14:57
now Qualcomm Snapdragon X. Full
15:00
disclosure, by the way, guys, not that it actually
15:02
matters for when show will be saying whatever we
15:05
damn well please. But Qualcomm did
15:07
sponsor a video on
15:09
Snapdragon X while we were here, which is part
15:11
of why we were able to poke and prod
15:14
at it a lot. We
15:16
got cool. Yeah, man, I
15:18
love it. Very interesting. I love it. I love it when
15:20
we get a sponsorship that comes with like
15:23
extra access to the product anyways, and
15:25
almost no strings attached. Yeah, when we
15:27
went through the script, they
15:29
were like, can we change that word? And
15:31
I changed it. I did my trick. I
15:33
changed it to something worse. Like,
15:36
oh, nevermind. They were like, nevermind. They
15:41
changed like one word and then like Andy we
15:43
shot we shot like a pickup. Yeah, we
15:46
shot a pickup because we
15:48
actually made too strong of
15:50
a statement about the competition. Oh, and they
15:52
were like, I wanted it to be pulled
15:54
back. They wanted it to be dialed back
15:57
interest. So just yeah, so just Is
16:00
this out already? No, it's not out yet. But
16:02
anyway, Intel, this is a do or die product for
16:04
Intel, where they are gonna be going
16:06
up, not just against
16:09
AMD, who has been kicking their butt a
16:12
little, because AMD had
16:14
been their first generation that
16:16
was super competitive. That
16:18
would have been mobile 3,000 fourth. I
16:22
forget, I can't keep track. Now that the
16:25
Zen generation doesn't line up with the product
16:27
generation, and the mobile and the desktop generations
16:29
don't line up either, it's very confusing. But
16:31
the point is they had one that was
16:33
really competitive, and it was in like a
16:36
handful of devices that functionally weren't
16:38
even really available. Is that 5,000? Doesn't
16:40
matter. The point
16:43
is they were competitive on paper, but
16:45
they didn't exist. And
16:47
then over the last couple of
16:49
generations, they exist and they're
16:51
in some really good designs now. Like I'm
16:54
holding an AMD laptop that
16:57
I freaking love. This is,
16:59
framework disclosure, I guess. This is the FlowX13 from
17:01
Asus. I
17:03
flipping love this thing. It's got an
17:06
eight core Ryzen 7,000 series processor. It's
17:09
got an RTX 4070 in it. Albeit
17:12
a lower TDP one, obviously. It's real
17:14
thin, real small. Yeah, I mean, it
17:16
gets hot enough to, yeah,
17:19
she's cooking, right? Because we're
17:22
using RTX broadcast for noise
17:24
cancellation. It's not like
17:26
the ambient is low here. And I think,
17:28
oh yeah, no, I also have my capture
17:31
card running. So I've got video capture running
17:33
through it. Absolutely
17:36
freaking love this machine, but
17:38
AMD doesn't have the kind
17:40
of fab capacity to
17:43
ship enough laptop chips that Intel
17:45
has to really worry about just
17:48
outright losing. Wallcom
17:52
on the other hand. On the other hand. Wallcom
17:54
on the other hand. Ruchofab capabilities.
17:57
Dude, I can't believe
17:59
how many. design wins these chips are
18:01
in. Like when you
18:03
compare this to AMD's first
18:06
generation of competitive CPUs where
18:08
it was like you could
18:11
tell from the designs that like the
18:15
vendors didn't want to make Intel
18:17
too mad. You know not
18:19
because there's a backroom deal necessarily
18:21
not because Intel is you know
18:23
back to their tricks of you know paying
18:25
people to not use AMD necessarily I mean
18:28
who knows something could emerge you
18:30
know five years from now or whatever I don't I
18:32
don't know either way but what
18:34
I'm saying is that's not the vibe I thought
18:36
the vibe that I got was yeah the
18:39
AMD chip is in the slightly more
18:41
worser one because realistically they know
18:44
they can't get enough allocation to switch
18:46
over a significant volume for this thing
18:48
so they're just kind of putting it
18:50
in some niche devices knowing that that's
18:52
all they can ship anyway and the
18:54
bulk of this generation is going to
18:56
be in like you can you can tell when
18:58
that happens right? It
19:03
ain't happening. Dude these
19:06
Qualcomm designs are
19:08
sick and I don't
19:10
mean that Qualcomm designs them sorry I mean
19:12
like like the Dell XPS with
19:15
Qualcomm's Snapdragon in it. Like the
19:17
laptop itself? Sick yeah it's
19:19
sick the surface the new surface
19:23
it's sick. Dude the
19:25
camera. Dude the camera
19:27
in the surface it's
19:29
sick. Honestly in our video I
19:32
don't think we have the most favorable
19:34
demo of how much better the camera quality
19:36
can be it's like a little better. Are you
19:38
on the floor or something? Yeah but we're in
19:40
like we're in like a demo room and the
19:42
lighting really really sucks to the point where kind
19:45
of anything looks bad but under
19:47
slightly better lighting conditions when we were
19:49
in the meeting room before. That's
19:54
interesting because laptop webcams are
19:56
kind of notoriously terrible. Yeah so we go
19:58
through this in the video because very
20:00
few people are talking about the
20:04
camera image quality benefit of
20:06
Snapdragon, a Windows on Snapdragon.
20:09
Everyone's talking about Qualcomm's talking
20:12
points, right? Which is performance,
20:14
AI and battery life. So is this
20:16
like compute enhanced video? Well, no. What
20:19
it is, is that almost
20:21
all laptop webcams have the ISP
20:24
on the webcam. But
20:28
on Snapdragon, the ISP is on
20:30
die. And it's
20:32
linked using, shoot, what's the, I
20:34
forget what the link is, but instead
20:36
of using USB, it uses
20:38
the same interface as your smartphone. Oh man. So
20:42
they have plug and play compatibility for
20:46
the same camera module. Yeah, that's actually wild. From the
20:48
smartphone industry. Yeah. And they
20:50
have all those years of experience building
20:52
ISPs. So much more work goes into that. For
20:56
smartphones. Disgustingly more work goes into
20:58
that. Dude, dude, the
21:01
new Surface's webcam, you can
21:04
just throw away your add-on webcam. Just huck
21:06
it. That's nice. Yeah, because it's built in.
21:09
Because it's pretty annoying using that. Very
21:11
cool. Like, dude,
21:13
I'm pretty stoked. I've
21:15
heard rumor, genuine
21:18
rumor. I don't know
21:20
if there's articles about this, whatever. This is word of
21:22
mouth rumor. That a decent amount of
21:24
this pressure to make the laptops really sick
21:26
for this generation
21:28
of laptops is from Microsoft. Really? That
21:33
makes sense. I think that they've
21:35
been, it's funny because. Again, total rumor. I
21:39
don't know. I was looking at the
21:41
market share that Apple has gained since
21:43
the launch of Apple Silicon. And it's not as
21:45
much, at least according to
21:47
the source that I was looking at. It's quite
21:49
possible that a company like Microsoft. No,
21:52
I've heard the same thing. Who's going to be
21:55
paying a lot of money per
21:57
year for market research or whatever. it's
22:00
possible they have numbers that I
22:02
don't. But from what I can tell,
22:05
it hasn't really made a
22:07
meaningful difference. And that actually
22:09
kind of jives with Apple's behavior,
22:11
where it's like,
22:13
yeah, I don't know. We'll like
22:15
we'll do a we'll do an update to this one,
22:18
I guess. M4, I don't know. Yeah,
22:20
we'll put it in a MacBook at some point. iPad,
22:23
right? Like, yeah, like it kind of
22:25
jives with Apple's behavior. Whereas like, man,
22:27
when M1 came out, M2 refresh, they
22:30
were like, we're on cadence. Like,
22:32
we're going, we're going, here come all the models.
22:35
We've got the studio, we've got the we've got
22:37
the big one. But they're not converting more users.
22:39
Yeah, but if they're not converting more users, it's
22:41
like Apple just goes through this cycle where they're
22:43
like, oh, yeah, yeah, we're gonna do Mac again,
22:46
we're gonna like kill it. We're not we're focused
22:48
on Mac again. Yeah, sorry, we forgot. Nevermind. Right?
22:50
Like they did it with the trash can, they
22:52
did it with the first generation cheese grater or
22:54
the new generation cheese grater on Intel. They
22:57
did it with the studio like Mac studio is
22:59
that is that still M2? Yeah, probably.
23:03
Yeah, Mac studio is still
23:05
M2 family. That's
23:09
Apple stuff, man. I was I've been trying to
23:11
figure this out. I suspect it's because of whatever
23:14
it's called replay. Oh,
23:17
yeah, yeah, yeah. Our whole pilot
23:19
plus. Yeah, PCs thing. I
23:22
think that's why they're pushing. I mean, yeah, maybe it's
23:24
less to do with Apple's threat. And it's more to
23:26
do with just, good Lord, give
23:28
people a reason to upgrade their damn computers.
23:31
Yeah, I could see that. Anyway,
23:33
coming back to the fight that Intel's in
23:35
with lunar lake, they
23:38
cannot afford for these battle
23:40
mage drivers to suck. And that
23:42
gives me a lot of hope, actually, for
23:44
the for the for the battle mage discrete
23:46
cards. Now, I'm not expecting them to be
23:48
competing with a 5090 or
23:51
whatever. I don't think that's realistic. But
23:53
what I am, what
23:56
I am hoping to expect is
23:58
a real competitive. for the 50 60
24:01
100% because I am I am just sick of Nvidia being like,
24:07
yeah, I don't know. We'll just have the
24:09
most basicest thing that would have been a
24:11
50 class card a generation or two ago.
24:13
We're going to call it a 60 class
24:15
card. It's going to be up to you
24:18
know, what is the 40 60
24:20
max out for the TI like $500 or
24:23
$600 or something like that. What's a 40 60 TI worth? I think the
24:28
price has actually come down a
24:30
little bit. Uh oh my god.
24:33
How why is it so hard to just
24:35
find a thing? It's 400 bucks for an
24:37
8 gig 8 gig 40 60
24:39
TI like come on. Yeah, it's lame.
24:41
So if
24:44
I can get something Arc Battlemage with a
24:46
decent frame buffer with good drivers, I'm excited
24:48
for that. Oh yeah, me too. Um
24:51
I don't know. I don't know if I'm 100%
24:54
confident it's going to be Battlemage or if it
24:56
might be the one after. Celestial. Yeah.
24:59
But I hope it's Battlemage. Anyway,
25:01
moving on uh Intel Lunar Lake.
25:03
So the this is this is
25:05
crazy too. So we
25:08
talked a little bit about how much performance
25:10
gain they're expecting both on CPU and GPU
25:12
to try and take the fight to both
25:14
AMD and especially bulk on this gen.
25:17
Um and you gotta
25:19
kinda wonder how much of that is because this
25:22
is the first generation
25:24
because the first generation of these
25:27
Lunar Lake chips are going to
25:29
be primarily manufactured by TSMC Intel
25:32
says they made this decision because
25:35
TSMC's fabrication processes were simply more
25:37
advanced at the time they were
25:39
designing the chip. What
25:42
a slice of humble pie. That's
25:44
pretty wild. The fact that
25:47
it's not something Intel would normally say no
25:50
or not like II said
25:52
this before Intel's Intel stock has gone
25:54
down quite a lot since I said
25:56
that if I was buying I would
25:58
be buying long Intel. Yeah. This
26:01
actually doesn't change what I said Because
26:04
that kind of add on investment advice
26:06
not investment advice And I haven't bought
26:09
any because I don't allow myself to
26:11
just like trade tech stocks like that
26:14
I do I do own some stake
26:16
in framework laptops as you guys know
26:18
from the series of videos that we've
26:20
done on it and I
26:22
do have a small investment in a
26:25
It's hard to
26:27
even call them a startup. They're very small in
26:29
a startup that is trying to work
26:31
on a NAS operating system that makes
26:33
things simpler But
26:36
that's that's it. I don't let myself just
26:38
kind of play the market But
26:42
I like this humility, yeah,
26:44
I like this willingness to
26:46
make the best product Even
26:49
if it's like even if it's not all
26:52
real men have fabs, you know, like Jerry
26:54
Sanders that that's it. That's a quote Okay,
26:56
that's that's that's like a toxic masculinity quote
26:58
from Jerry Sanders the third Who
27:01
I believe was AMD's founder Second
27:07
or third Jerry Sanders. Yeah.
27:09
Yeah, he's the third Jerry Sanders. There
27:11
you go. I really hope he's related
27:13
to the colonel somehow Thanks
27:18
for that was crazy things have happened good contribution
27:23
Anyway, they went with a rival foundry rather than compromise
27:25
on the design of the chip But
27:27
next year's panther lake will be largely
27:30
fabricated by Intel's own foundry. They've been
27:32
trying to kind of say,
27:34
okay forget it Let's
27:36
just instead of going incrementally. We're
27:38
gonna try to leapfrog and on
27:40
stage. They did show off their
27:43
1.8 a process they showed off. I think it was
27:45
a it was either a wafer or die I can't
27:47
remember but they were showing something on stage saying they
27:49
have power on on it. So Who
27:52
knows maybe panther lakes gonna be good.
27:54
These are starting to move fast. Meanwhile
27:57
at AMD. They have confirmed. They're stupid
28:00
AI 300 series naming scheme for
28:02
the new mobile chips, which are Zen 5,
28:04
which is not stupid. The fact
28:06
that we're getting Zen 5, like right
28:08
away here on both mobile and desktop
28:10
means that AMD is also probably getting
28:13
a lot more fab
28:15
capacity right now. Cause
28:17
yeah, they also announced Zen 5 Epic
28:19
chips. So they must have
28:22
booked some wafers. They
28:24
are claiming a 30% performance advantage over
28:27
Intel's current gen flagship chip, though
28:29
they did not include frame rates
28:31
or percentile frame data. Unlike
28:33
Intel, AMD will be retaining SMT or
28:39
their version of hyperthreading and seem to
28:41
be aiming for pure performance rather than
28:43
efficiency. Now that's something I've seen a
28:45
lot. Like I've
28:47
seen people talk about that a lot, but
28:50
I guess my counter to that is AMD
28:54
already had the efficiency pretty good compared
28:56
to Intel. So if I
28:58
was them talking about my next generation
29:00
chips, maybe less of my messaging would
29:02
be about efficiency, but that doesn't necessarily
29:04
mean that I'm expecting Ryzen AI 300
29:06
series to
29:10
be inefficient. I mean, I
29:13
think anything's gonna look kind of bad compared
29:15
to Snapdragon X. Okay,
29:20
so in the video, spoiler, Alex
29:22
holds up two HP laptops. His
29:25
HP Elite Dragonfly or whatever it's
29:27
called, his Dragonfly daily driver that
29:29
he chose because of its outstanding
29:31
battery life. Like it's one of
29:33
the best Windows laptops for
29:36
battery life and
29:38
HP's Snapdragon X design. According
29:42
to HP's own ratings, which Alex has found
29:44
to be pretty honest in the past, it
29:48
was something like a
29:50
10 hour difference. It
29:53
was like eight to 10 hours difference. This
29:55
is another reason why I feel like Microsoft might be pushing.
29:57
No, no, no, no, no, I'm not done yet. Okay. And
30:00
the Snapdragon one had, I think, a 15%
30:02
smaller physical battery. Oh.
30:08
Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah.
30:11
Like... It's like this has been the
30:13
fairly notorious thing that gets thrown at Windows
30:15
laptops is that their battery life is
30:17
atrocious compared to Mac's. Yep. So
30:20
it's like this is another one of the solutions to those
30:22
things. Like, yeah, there isn't a huge amount of market share
30:24
for Microsoft to claim back from
30:26
Apple. But they might be
30:28
tired of being like the butt of jokes when
30:30
it comes to laptops. Yep. Like,
30:33
Windows laptops are just considered basically inferior. They
30:35
should fix Windows Modern Standby then. That'd be
30:37
nice. Just an idea, Microsoft. It'd
30:39
be kind of cool. While you're at this
30:41
push, which I totally support,
30:44
I'm super down to have better battery
30:46
life, right? Like... I
30:48
wonder if it'll be better on different chips. It
30:51
could be. I don't know. I
30:53
mean, I hope so because realistically, I'm not going to
30:55
be switching to a Mac anytime soon. So
30:58
I am fully in support of Windows
31:00
laptops getting better. Now, I want to
31:02
make this really clear, guys. The performance
31:04
embargo for independent testing is not lifted.
31:07
So these battery life claims, I mean, they
31:09
could be nonsense. I think that... I
31:13
doubt it. You know? Like...
31:16
I was just saying that the claims
31:19
that they make are decently, consistently accurate-ish.
31:21
Yep. That's on the
31:23
HP side, right? You've got all these partners
31:26
that are staking their reputations. On
31:29
similar claims. On similar claims. Yeah. You've
31:32
got... And what I'll say is that the
31:37
vibe from Qualcomm... There's...
31:44
Very confident. That's an
31:46
interesting... It's always kind of a tell. You
31:48
mentioned that they sponsored. Yep. And
31:51
that they were very not controlling of the
31:53
messaging. Yes. That combination
31:55
is almost always like, oh,
31:57
this is good. Yeah. turn
32:00
they're like we need to control everything you
32:02
say and then we don't work with that
32:04
partner because that doesn't work but when that
32:06
situation happens it's almost always because they like
32:08
don't have anything. Yeah whereas when they're like
32:10
yeah we just want everybody to know. Say
32:12
whatever you want. Just literally
32:15
they're they're they're they're points they
32:17
gave me. It's such a power move. Can
32:20
you talk about performance? Can you
32:22
talk about the NPU? So like the
32:24
on-chip AI, Go Pilot obviously, and
32:26
battery life and I'm like yeah
32:29
I mean how could I possibly
32:31
talk about things that we would talk about?
32:33
How could I possibly talk about this product
32:35
without talking about those things anyway? And dude
32:37
the demo room was crazy because they
32:40
have like DaVinci Resolve running in there. No
32:43
but like they've got Baldur's
32:45
Gate 3 running in there. They've got
32:47
like they had um
32:50
uh what's uh but used to be owned by Sony
32:52
it's now owned by someone else. It's decently common that
32:54
these will softball the applications
32:56
that are running. Yeah. Which is why he's pointing
32:58
this out. Well at that end because
33:00
it's not x86. Yeah. Like this is
33:03
this is Windows on Arm. Things
33:05
that were not made for this. Yeah.
33:07
I don't think Larian like made a
33:09
version of the game for Snapdragon chips.
33:12
Not that I'm aware of. Yeah.
33:14
Yeah so so dude
33:17
oh also they were absolute characters. I have
33:19
no screen share right now so you guys
33:22
are gonna have to wait to experience this.
33:24
But I did a bit where I
33:28
where I I walk into the meeting
33:30
um and here
33:34
I'll try I'll try I'll try and kind of narrate
33:36
along. Um when
33:39
I walked into my briefing on Snapdragon processors
33:41
with Qualcomm I did what I always do
33:43
and plugged in my laptop and
33:46
then we have them like. That's actually
33:48
pretty funny. Mock me for plugging my laptop
33:50
and then they like they coax me back
33:53
into the meeting room with a Snapdragon laptop
33:55
and a sponsorship. That's
33:58
pretty good. So they were. They
34:00
were absolute, like, totally
34:02
fun. Yeah, had a lot
34:05
of fun working with them. We've actually, I think,
34:08
attempted to work with
34:11
Qualcomm once. Ooh, sorry, someone just pointed
34:13
out Ballerskate 3 is already available on
34:15
macOS, so it's ARM. Oh,
34:18
okay. That's good to know.
34:20
But I do believe there's compatibility layers for tons
34:22
of different games and stuff. Yes. Not
34:24
everything, but a lot of things. And
34:28
they had, what's it called? Sony
34:30
used to own it, that video
34:32
editing suite. Thank you, Imperial. Vegas.
34:34
Vegas, yeah. Vegas, they had Vegas
34:37
running. Man, they had so much
34:39
stuff running. Premier doesn't
34:41
work, is that correct? I
34:43
would be very surprised if Premier,
34:46
Premier barely works on Windows x86.
34:50
No, seriously. You know that our
34:52
away teams bring Macs. Ooh.
34:55
They don't bring Windows laptops anymore. Whoa.
34:58
Because Premier is so much more stable on Mac, which
35:01
I don't think is anything to do with
35:03
ARM. I think it's
35:05
just to do with just
35:08
Windows versus macOS. That's wild.
35:13
Yeah, sorry. An
35:17
interesting thing too, you had a narrative
35:19
here of people trying to push for
35:22
more fab capacity. Obviously
35:24
this is somewhat always of a thing, but
35:26
it's been more of a conversation lately. A
35:28
huge amount of conversation both on the floor
35:30
for the limited time that I was there
35:32
and off the floor with a variety of
35:34
people at the show has been data
35:37
centers, building new
35:39
data centers, increasing
35:41
how much you're harnessing current data centers.
35:44
Data centers trying to get out low
35:47
level clients because there's high level clients
35:49
offering three times the rate on things.
35:52
Do you remember? It's crazy. Do
35:54
you remember that data center zone property that I showed
35:56
you like five years ago? Oh dude. And I was
35:59
like, oh, well, you should like. do float plane data
36:01
center, you would have been balling.
36:07
Well, oh, well. And
36:11
it was really small. Like the overhead
36:13
of running a tiny data center, I
36:15
think would be super weird. Because like,
36:17
as far as my understanding goes, scale
36:20
is pretty helpful. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're
36:22
gonna have to have the security. Anyway,
36:24
you're gonna have to have the administrative
36:26
staff. Anyway, you can't
36:28
just have like, you know, few thousand
36:31
square foot data center. But yeah,
36:35
yeah, no dice, no dice. Oh,
36:39
yeah. And back then, like, when even when even
36:42
was that that was during the like 2017 crypto
36:44
boom? Yeah, 100%. Someone's like, it would have
36:47
been crypto
36:49
don't lie. No, 100%. The tenants would
36:51
have been mining 100%. But I was
36:53
also when I
36:56
was talking to Luke about
36:58
it. I mean, we had already
37:00
been kicking around. LMG VPN. Yeah,
37:02
yeah, yeah. We
37:05
already had float plane going. So it was
37:07
one of those things where like, kind of
37:09
like we do, we'd be spinning up a
37:12
thing to be our own biggest customer. And
37:15
I don't know, might have worked out.
37:17
But realistically, I don't think I don't think that
37:20
cash would have been that well invested there compared
37:22
to some of the other things we did just
37:24
like growing LMG and all of that stuff. A
37:26
lot of people are posting a lot of things
37:28
about the data center stuff. Someone someone mentioned data
37:30
centers use a lot of power. Yeah, yeah,
37:33
that's gonna be a huge
37:35
problem. If you've paid attention
37:37
to some of the announcements
37:39
that happened at this show.
37:41
Wattage per like device in
37:43
a data center is erupting,
37:45
dude, the new
37:48
Blackwell GP. Yeah. Okay,
37:50
so I'm just talking
37:52
the one GPU, which
37:54
is to be
37:56
100 dies. Okay, so a B 200
37:58
GPU. is 2B100
38:01
dies and oh God,
38:03
I think it is, is
38:05
it 12 HBM stacks or 8 HBM
38:08
stacks? I forget, 2B100
38:10
dies and some HBM stacks. Nvidia
38:12
is calling that one GPU. So
38:14
they are, they're doing multi-die GPU,
38:18
kind of like we saw on Apple's Ultra SKUs.
38:20
I hope that it works a little better than
38:22
it does on Apple's Ultra SKUs. I don't know
38:24
if you remember this, but we did a video
38:26
on Apple's tools to
38:28
help developers port their games over to
38:31
macOS and performance sucked
38:34
and a lot of the Apple community was
38:36
extremely angry at us for testing on Ultra
38:40
because it has problems and
38:42
I'm like, okay,
38:44
well I didn't know that. Yeah. I
38:47
thought I was putting Apple in the best
38:50
position possible and also if you're mad about
38:52
this, be mad at Apple, not at me.
38:55
I didn't make their interconnect between their
38:57
two, like
39:00
core designs, their two Macs. I didn't
39:02
make that. I didn't make it
39:04
not work properly. Anyway, hopefully Nvidia's interconnect works
39:06
a little better than Apple's, but this B200
39:08
should present as a single GPU, but
39:13
I'm not done yet. A
39:15
B200 is a thousand watts, one B200, but
39:21
I'm not done yet, okay?
39:23
Because a B200 is part
39:25
of a grace Blackwell super
39:27
chip that operates as a
39:30
single chip or whatever, where
39:32
you've got two B200 GPUs
39:35
and then a grace CPU on
39:37
it, okay? And that- Like some
39:39
amount of resentment in the like,
39:41
whatever. And that is 2,700 watts.
39:46
Oh yeah. Because we got two Blackwells and
39:48
a grace, okay? But
39:51
I'm not done yet. Because
39:54
each compute node contains
39:57
two super chips. one
40:00
you think Jake was saying something about
40:03
how some of the partner designs are
40:05
gonna be an ever so slightly thicker
40:07
one you in order
40:09
to get all the cooling in there like they're
40:11
water cool but like I think they're
40:13
creating like a one you plus or something don't quote
40:16
me on that but Jake was talking to me about
40:18
it he's usually yeah he's usually pretty credible about that
40:20
sort of thing but yeah but essentially
40:22
a one you what does that work out
40:24
to math honestly
40:27
I'm so I forgot before
40:29
100 watts what
40:34
wattage density and data centers is
40:36
gonna explode apparently it's an issue
40:38
where like some you
40:41
know fairly established companies that
40:44
run big data are basically
40:47
tapped for how much power they can get into
40:49
their data centers so that's another thing with the
40:51
whole data center game right now is like a
40:53
new data centers are coming up in places where
40:55
they can harness just absurd amounts
40:58
of power and Microsoft's gonna end up
41:00
way ahead of the game with their
41:02
like underwater data centers yeah we're just
41:04
gonna have like a title title data
41:06
center okay title powered like no but
41:08
the whole thing so but like the
41:10
whole data centers under the water for
41:12
cooling yeah and then like basically
41:14
the tide comes in and then like the
41:16
wall the data center comes up and it's
41:18
like a temporary dam and then it just
41:21
runs the seawater back through the thing for
41:23
cooling and power and then rinse and repeat
41:26
yeah we got this yeah like they're
41:28
gonna take up like the entire post
41:31
of freakin like Alaska with data centers or
41:33
something like for real though like
41:35
no but also they're gonna have to
41:37
do something it's gonna be crazy
41:40
yeah so I hear someone did the
41:42
math and flowplane chat this is crazy
41:44
6,000 watts in
41:47
a U of rack space would be over
41:50
a quarter of a million
41:52
watts per rack that
41:55
I mean it would it would melt we're starting to
41:57
talk numbers that are just like absolutely
42:01
stupid numbers. Yeah.
42:03
Like... Multiply that by a data
42:06
center. Dude, my tiny data
42:08
center in White Rock or whatever,
42:10
it could have had one
42:13
rack of raised black walls in it,
42:15
in an empty room. Yeah. Like,
42:18
I don't even think we could have gotten that much power in
42:20
there. Oh
42:23
yeah, I doubt it. Like here. I
42:25
doubt it. How much? Okay,
42:27
how much? Do you know how much power we have left?
42:29
As far as my understanding, are being
42:31
chosen by the proximity to nuclear power
42:33
plants. Specifically
42:35
nuclear power plants. That
42:37
is hilarious. And
42:40
there's conversations going on about like being
42:43
concerned that some nations aren't going to be
42:45
building additional nuclear power plants fast enough to
42:47
power all the data centers that are going
42:49
to be profitable. So that's
42:51
an actual conversation. Our power to the left,
42:54
which is a 20,000 square foot
42:56
industrial building that was formerly used
42:59
by... Steel fabricationers.
43:01
Yeah, some kind of steel fabricator.
43:06
Has about 200,000 watts coming into it. And
43:10
that was like a lot. That's
43:15
industrial, you know? Yeah.
43:17
So I could power not even an
43:19
entire rack of graced black walls.
43:22
So it would just be an entirely empty shell.
43:24
Imagine the lab. With
43:27
one super dystopian is just like in the
43:29
middle of the whole thing. One cabinet. All these
43:31
cables running through. Sitting in the middle of
43:34
it. That's it. That would be wild.
43:38
Hilarious. Just like venting all
43:40
the heat out the roof
43:42
or something like that. You
43:45
could sit over it and cook your food.
43:49
It's crazy, dude. It's freaking crazy. Yeah.
43:51
Data centers and power are going to
43:54
be a huge thing. And if you
43:56
are someone who is sash about the
43:59
general... power usage that we have going on right
44:01
now. It's
44:05
definitely not getting better. With
44:08
that said- AJ just said that the
44:10
Badminton Center has more power than the lab. I
44:15
didn't know that. That actually makes
44:17
a lot of sense. The Badminton
44:19
Center is 40,000 square feet. Right,
44:22
okay. It's two 20,000 square
44:24
foot units. So it probably has considerably
44:27
more power than the lab. Are
44:30
you thinking what I'm thinking? Yeah. Badminton
44:32
data center. Here
44:34
we go. That we use not for
44:36
logical things, but
44:39
for analyzing gameplay. Dude,
44:42
I saw some demos at
44:44
NVIDIA that probably skewed
44:47
the entire attitude of my coverage toward
44:49
them this year. Oh. Okay,
44:52
because like I know a lot of gamers- I didn't
44:54
go there at all. I know a lot of gamers
44:56
are super mad at NVIDIA right now and like rightly
44:58
so. Yeah. The video's
45:00
apathy towards gamers has been apparent for quite some
45:02
time. They didn't mention the keynote at all. I
45:05
don't know. I didn't watch it.
45:07
But dude, they had
45:09
one of their Jetson like
45:12
edge computing devices. It's
45:15
like a new generation Jetson thing. And
45:19
they had it running this like
45:21
stereo camera capture, Majig,
45:24
and on this dataset that was trained
45:26
on Blackwell or whatever. Basically
45:29
the demo was real time
45:31
wire framing. So like
45:33
the stuff that we wanna do. Exactly
45:35
what I wanna do at the Badminton
45:37
Center for like- It's pretty useful. Stroke
45:39
and movement analysis and stuff. So
45:42
one of the dreams that I have is
45:44
every court having basically
45:47
that except trained
45:49
on a dataset of Badminton play
45:51
so that you could like gamify
45:54
your game, your gameplay. So
45:57
it could tell you like, oh, against
45:59
this opponent. you hit a lot of
46:01
smashes, but their smash defense was actually
46:03
really good. And you scored most of
46:05
your winners with your drop shot. You
46:08
did a drop shot 15% of the time. Maybe
46:12
try doing it slightly more often.
46:14
Like, dude, oh, so cool.
46:16
And okay, they had some really cool
46:18
gaming demos running too. And
46:20
so like nothing I said was not true. But
46:23
when I walked in the door, I
46:25
was just, I was a little
46:27
excited. I was a little excited,
46:30
okay? Yeah, yeah, I even think things
46:32
like, this might not be as interesting to you,
46:34
but I think it'd be pretty cool, is like
46:37
endurance evaluation. Like
46:40
having it notice like, oh, okay, once you're
46:42
like 15 minutes into a game, your form
46:45
on like this movement starts to falter. Yeah.
46:47
Like that's really interesting. Dude, you could use it for all
46:50
kinds of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So
46:52
cool. It's pretty sweet. Yeah. Obviously
46:55
I'm going to need a small
46:58
loan of a million dollars for, you
47:00
know, some grace Blackwell. Yeah, but that's,
47:02
that's like, if you end up
47:05
waiting, you know, a little longer and then it becomes
47:07
the old tech, then it'll be
47:09
a little bit more affordable. Yeah, maybe. And I
47:12
might've put, I
47:16
think about 10,000 Watts of cooling
47:18
and power into the data
47:20
room at the badminton center, just in
47:23
case. We'll get her done. Just in
47:25
case. And
47:27
like, realistically, realistically,
47:33
like you wouldn't, you wouldn't
47:35
have to do the training on site. Like
47:38
you would probably at least time to do that
47:40
anyway. Like, I don't think you would at the
47:42
scale we'd be operating at. I don't think we
47:44
would be doing our own data set training anyhow.
47:47
So as long as we have enough edge computing should
47:49
be fine. Yeah.
47:52
Yeah. And I think at a St, we
47:55
wouldn't be stayed on higher
47:58
some launch lines. 100% there
48:00
was one of them. And I think
48:02
this just very, the text getting pretty
48:05
there. Yeah, pretty fast. But it also
48:07
like, oddly specifically
48:09
validated that thought. It's
48:12
like, maybe you should wait for it. Then
48:14
it's just like shown to you at a
48:16
convention. Like I wouldn't have expected to see
48:18
that. Yeah, media booth, dude, and like, it
48:20
was so good. They had, they had some
48:22
3d models rigged. And they were
48:25
showing, like, just
48:28
live movement to
48:30
rigged 3d model, like, that's
48:33
cool. It's not perfect. Obviously.
48:37
But like, it's
48:39
real time stuff. There's a lot of stuff you're gonna have
48:41
to deal with that something like a public badminton center like
48:46
do what happens if like someone else walks
48:48
into court like weird weird things that you'd have
48:51
to deal with. Oh, yeah. Like actually running
48:53
it in production. But our privacy policy from day
48:55
one is going to be we're filming the
48:57
inside of this facility like it or lump
48:59
it. I'm sorry. Yeah. And you
49:01
know what, we're not gonna we're we take
49:03
privacy extremely seriously, we're not going to misuse
49:05
that data, we're not going to sell it.
49:08
But we're absolutely going
49:11
to use it for
49:13
you. Would you potentially sell it to
49:17
users of the facility? sell
49:19
it to the Oh, oh, like
49:21
the gameplay analysis? Yeah. Okay, then because like
49:23
technically, that's not selling the data. That's selling
49:26
what we derived from it. But
49:28
we would be monetizing. What if what if you
49:30
let people buy like, I don't
49:33
know, replays of their
49:36
games or something? Well,
49:38
that's, that's not the data
49:40
we're collecting. But that would be like,
49:43
yeah, but then you're buying your own. Other
49:46
people could be in the video. Yes, this is
49:48
true. Even someone walking by the car. So we'll
49:50
just have to make sure that our privacy policy
49:52
does account for that. I think I think there's
49:54
got to be a way to make a distinction
49:56
between I don't know, not I don't know legal
49:58
stuff. Yeah, I There's got to be some
50:00
way to make a distinction between like, we
50:03
will be, you know, potentially distributing
50:05
whether we're selling or not, clips
50:07
to users of the facility of their own gameplay
50:09
and you might end up in it versus we're
50:12
going to mass sell everything we have. There's got
50:14
to be a way to... No, I'm sure we
50:16
can handle that. And
50:18
realistically, because of the way the facility is laid
50:21
out, each court will have
50:23
its own camera and yeah, you'll be able
50:25
to see the one behind it, but
50:27
they'll be pretty far away. Oh, I see
50:29
what you mean. Yeah, because it'll be at kind of like a 45 angle. Isn't
50:33
there a wall? No, but well,
50:35
you'll see the one next to it. Oh, I see
50:37
what you mean. Yes, yes, yes, yes, that's sorry. Going
50:39
to be sick. Are you guys ready for some merch
50:41
messages? Oh yeah, Dan, we have no idea what we're
50:44
supposed to be doing, so you feel free to answer. That's
50:51
why I'm buttoning the cards, Dan. There,
50:55
they got lost in transit. Do
50:57
it, do it. Alright,
50:59
let's see here. Luke, how is Final
51:01
Fantasy VI coming along? Yeah,
51:05
Luke. Man, you suck.
51:09
My plan is to play it on the flight back.
51:12
Sure. I brought the controller. Sure. I
51:15
finally tried Cuphead. Yeah? It's
51:17
alright. Yeah. It's alright. Yeah, I played
51:19
the first like third of it, according
51:21
to the percentage. I think I'm
51:23
good. I think they get it. That sounds about right to me, to be honest.
51:26
I think I played probably somewhere about... The art style is super cool. Yeah.
51:30
I think it was worth it. Like,
51:32
it wasn't a full price game. Yeah,
51:34
no. I was happy with the purchase.
51:37
Yes, finally tried it. Are you
51:39
still at like... No,
51:41
I'm a little bit past there. Where are you in the
51:43
game now? You're past Zozo?
51:46
Yeah. Okay, so have you done the Opera
51:48
House yet? I don't think so. Oh, okay.
51:51
I think I like just got through Zozo. Okay.
51:55
Man, you're slow. I'm slow.
51:58
Yeah. Like you're a slow boy. I intended to play
52:00
it. I probably game more than you now. Sad.
52:04
Well, I don't know. If you include Pokemon Go
52:06
walks, probably not. No, I don't think I
52:08
do. Oh, well then. That's
52:10
not a real game, you filthy casual. That's
52:12
fair. No, no, I'm just, I'm just, I'm
52:15
being intentionally. I am
52:17
strongly opinionated. I'm being intentionally
52:19
toxic. I saw
52:22
a post on the Pokemon Go subreddit where someone was
52:24
asking like, should I buy
52:26
this like apartment or something? Buy this
52:28
apartment. And it showed the stops and
52:30
gyms that were around the apartment. And
52:32
there was comments like, if that gym
52:34
is in range of like the couch,
52:37
then like hell yeah, man. And
52:39
like, I do not. Pokemon
52:45
Go is a bad game. I
52:49
think I can say that honestly, like
52:51
barely objectively. It's not, it's not a
52:53
good game. It's great at
52:56
making going out for a walk
52:58
fun. Go outside, please.
53:01
It's so, I feel so separate from the Pokemon
53:03
Go community because there's constantly stuff like that. People
53:06
are mad that they can't remote raid more, which
53:08
is like being able to raid from your couch
53:10
instead of going out and doing it. People are-
53:12
And they understand the accessibility argument. Yes. But
53:15
a lot of those people- That's not the argument for
53:17
the vast majority of people. If that is the argument
53:19
for you, heck yeah. Sorry,
53:21
you can only do it so many times a
53:23
day, but that's also like really expensive. So I
53:26
don't know. Oh boy. Cool.
53:30
Hit me, Dan. Oh wait, we need
53:32
to explain merch messages. Yeah. Right.
53:35
Merch messages are the way to interact with the
53:37
show. They're going to be going to producer Dan,
53:39
who I don't have a button to show him,
53:41
but maybe he does. Wave to the people, Dan,
53:43
maybe, I don't know. Can't monitor the stream. Stop
53:45
it Linus. Yeah, there you go. Stop
53:49
it Linus. Okay. I
53:51
am stopped. Anyway, merch
53:53
messages are the way to interact with the show.
53:56
Don't leave a super chat or a
53:58
Twitch bit or whatever. Leave
54:00
a merch message. All you gotta do is
54:03
go to lttstore.com and
54:05
in the cart, once you've added some
54:07
items, loaded it up with some super
54:09
awesome stuff from LTT store, you will
54:11
see a little box to leave a
54:13
merch message. That will go to
54:15
Dan who will forward it to the appropriate person.
54:17
Pop it up along the bottom of the screen
54:19
for everyone here to enjoy who
54:21
might reply to it himself or he
54:24
might curate it for me and Luke
54:26
to read. We've
54:28
got some cool stuff over on the
54:30
store. Hey, look at that. We
54:33
are speaking of,
54:36
we were just talking about, hold
54:40
on, let me see if I can, where do I
54:42
even find this stuff? Hey, there they
54:44
are. Oh wait, I can't screen share anyway. We're
54:47
relaunching our keyboard pins.
54:50
So they're available in a variety
54:52
of different colors, including,
54:54
oh, we've got
54:57
that one. Our
55:04
RGB color is sick. We've
55:06
also got rainbow and gold
55:09
and purple, yellow and white and pink, blue
55:12
and purple and blue, pink and yellow and
55:14
blue, pink and white and purple,
55:17
gray and white, all these cool
55:19
color schemes. And they are free
55:21
in the bonus bin with your
55:23
purchase in any color and representation
55:26
you like. Let's freaking go. Also,
55:30
if you missed out on the scribe
55:32
driver last week, so that's our fail
55:35
pen made out of failed screwdriver shafts,
55:37
we are working on a restock. So you
55:39
can sign up for a notification on the
55:41
site. Make sure you guys do that. Dan,
55:44
if you wanna show them where the notify button is, that's
55:47
gonna be a good way to ensure that you
55:49
get one. Guys, we don't mess around when we
55:51
say, hey, something's selling really fast, you should get
55:53
it. We're not doing like awful FOMO sales tactics.
55:56
We're informing you that something is selling really
55:59
fast. And if you would like to get
56:01
one, then now is the time to get
56:03
it. Yeah. I have an unfortunate situation where
56:05
I actually wanted to... I can say this
56:07
because he's not getting them, but
56:10
I wanted to get the scribe driver for
56:12
gifts for things like Father's Day. Yeah.
56:14
It's gone. Well, you should have moved fast. I
56:16
should have. I mean, I did warn you. You
56:18
did. Personally. In life. I
56:20
really did warn you that they were running out. And
56:22
I was like, oh. By the way, we
56:25
missed a huge opportunity. I
56:27
saw this on Reddit, I think it was. It
56:30
should have been called the write off. Oh.
56:34
So many, so many layers
56:36
of meaning. Wow.
56:38
Yeah. It
56:40
sucks. You made like a pencil version or something.
56:42
It's not as good. Yeah. It would need to
56:44
be big. Because it was the shafts. Yeah.
56:48
It was the write off. Oh, man. See?
56:51
See how well it works? Oh. Huge
56:54
miss. Yikes. Huge L. It
56:57
sucks when those things happen. I know. It's
57:00
like describe drivers of an interesting name.
57:03
Yep. It's fine. It's
57:05
fine. But it isn't. It's not right
57:07
off. Also
57:10
in other store news, we
57:12
finally have the oh, man. Our
57:17
cable management products under other. Where
57:20
are they? Gear.
57:22
This is a problem. Tools. Where is it?
57:24
I thought it was under tools. Are
57:27
they not under tools? We have too
57:29
many. Oh, we have a whole top level category for cable
57:31
management. Okay. Well, there's a problem. Okay.
57:34
Anyway, the cable tie holders are back in stock.
57:36
We must have air shipped in some cable tie
57:38
holders. So we finally have
57:40
all of our magnetic
57:42
cable management products in stock. The reviews are
57:44
in. They're freaking awesome, which
57:46
we already knew. But hey, now you
57:49
guys have it independently verified. They're all
57:51
four and a half or pure
57:54
five stars. Scribe driver
57:56
reviews are in now as well. Yeah.
57:58
So are in the comments or saying. Flipping
58:00
loving it, the people who are calling
58:02
it the uber-priced merch are
58:05
getting obliterated. Get
58:07
smashed. Obliterated. It's
58:10
actually been very satisfying to see
58:13
how destroyed they're getting. It's
58:15
like, dude, look, I'm sorry
58:18
that you buy all of your t-shirts
58:20
and underwear at Walmart. I'm
58:23
sorry for that. Sometimes
58:27
it can be nice to have
58:30
one that's a little nicer. I'm
58:32
not going to apologize for our stuff being
58:34
more expensive than Walmart. I will even say
58:36
the big crystal pens are
58:39
super based. But
58:41
if you want a nice pen, they cost the money.
58:43
$30 is a really good price. This
58:48
isn't trying to compete with a big crystal.
58:51
And that's okay. Deal with it. Even
58:55
the $20 t-shirts. $20
58:58
p-shirts are pretty cheap. Deal with it. Actually,
59:01
there's pressure on me to increase the price of
59:04
the t-shirts. I'm not surprised. Yeah, we haven't touched
59:06
them since. I know. I've mentioned this a bunch
59:08
of times because it seems crazy to me. Our
59:11
costs have definitely gone up. Oh, yeah. We
59:13
absorbed it for a long time, but at some point,
59:16
t-shirt prices are probably going to go up a little
59:18
bit. It probably makes sense. I
59:20
don't know of any
59:22
other creators that have
59:24
pricing around there. And
59:26
not to throw too much shade, but a lot of them
59:28
are on bad. Yeah. We
59:30
take a lot of flack for the pricing on
59:32
our store that is just stupid,
59:35
honestly. It was notorious
59:38
for a long time. I think it has gotten
59:40
better with creator merch in
59:42
general. I think creator merch in general is
59:44
better now than it was five years ago.
59:46
There's some stuff that's still pretty garbage. Probably.
59:48
We secret shopped someone else's water bottle in
59:50
the tech space a little while ago, and
59:52
it was terrible. I'm not surprised. I couldn't
59:54
believe how bad it was. But it's pretty
59:56
common to get the cheapest. They're
59:59
not necessarily... doing this consciously,
1:00:02
they're working through another place
1:00:05
that is actually like manufacturing the shirts for
1:00:07
them. And that company that they're
1:00:10
working with is providing the
1:00:12
cheapest possible blanks, just like feel terrible,
1:00:14
the printing's really bad, stuff like that.
1:00:17
Sometimes it's not even their fault. Yeah. We
1:00:20
ran into that a number of times where we
1:00:24
would get good samples. My actuals are just bait
1:00:26
and switchee with samples. Yeah. That was why we
1:00:28
started to create
1:00:30
a warehouse because we were so tired of that.
1:00:32
Yeah. We couldn't control the quality of our own
1:00:34
merch. I think that other creator that we secret
1:00:36
shopped is like an investor in that merch company.
1:00:38
I think that's probably the only reason they use
1:00:40
them because... Trig and Floatplane Chat
1:00:43
just said the Scribe Driver pen is
1:00:45
literally one of the lowest priced high
1:00:47
quality bolt-action pens on the market. Yeah.
1:00:51
It's not competing.
1:00:53
And you know what? Some of our stuff is
1:00:55
really expensive. That's true. But
1:00:57
I talked about this in my video on the PlayStation
1:01:02
portal. It's expensive
1:01:05
for what it does. And
1:01:07
if that doesn't have a value to
1:01:09
you, that's totally okay. You can just
1:01:11
totally not buy it. And that is
1:01:13
totally an option. But what it
1:01:15
isn't is overpriced
1:01:18
because I broke it down. And people
1:01:20
were so mad about this, which was bizarre to
1:01:22
me. I broke down
1:01:24
what the retail price for
1:01:27
all of those components would be. And I'm like, yo,
1:01:29
Sony isn't taking any more profit on this
1:01:32
than they are already on their controller. Or
1:01:35
then sellers on eBay are
1:01:37
on batteries and screens
1:01:39
this size and resolution. And
1:01:42
you can be mad that it's locked
1:01:44
down. That it's not hackable. Or you can
1:01:46
be mad that it's an accessory for that
1:01:48
might make it a no-go for you. Yeah,
1:01:50
100%. Yeah. But what you
1:01:52
can't say is that it is
1:01:55
overpriced because that's just what that
1:01:57
costs. It's like if you were to buy a...
1:02:00
It's like if you were to buy a gold iPhone
1:02:02
case and it was $30,000 because it
1:02:04
contains $25,000
1:02:07
worth of gold and like, you know, 50 to 60 hours of craftsman time. Well,
1:02:16
that's not overpriced. You just
1:02:18
bought something a little
1:02:20
crazy. Yeah, it's expensive. It's
1:02:23
not overpriced. And that's a distinction that I would
1:02:25
like to kind of
1:02:28
drive through more in our
1:02:31
future videos. Like, I don't
1:02:33
know, something that I'm
1:02:35
a little sort of disconnected from,
1:02:38
I think, the rest of the tech media
1:02:40
on is the
1:02:43
state of the GPU market.
1:02:46
I'm mad about it that they're really expensive.
1:02:49
But what people I think are
1:02:51
not fully understanding
1:02:57
is the forces at play. I
1:02:59
mean, there are egregious examples. I talked earlier
1:03:01
on this show about Nvidia's 4060 series. There's
1:03:05
not enough RAM on the 4060. At
1:03:08
that price, it should have more
1:03:10
VRAM. Nvidia is absolutely taking that
1:03:13
margin on it. But
1:03:15
with that said, the days of $139.99
1:03:17
like gaming GPU are gone. It
1:03:24
costs so much to take out
1:03:26
at TSMC. So if
1:03:29
you want that $139 GPU, literally your
1:03:31
better option is to buy a second
1:03:33
hand one from a generation or two
1:03:35
ago when that price level might
1:03:37
have been attainable. And
1:03:40
no amount of complaining about it
1:03:43
is going to change that. It's
1:03:45
going to change the market forces that
1:03:47
are at play here. The fact that
1:03:49
TSMC can sell that way for functionally
1:03:53
unlimited monies. Did
1:03:56
you hear TSMC's chairman
1:03:59
or CEO? whatever the guy's title
1:04:01
was, like was
1:04:03
like publicly mulling increasing Nvidia's
1:04:06
pricing. It's just like,
1:04:08
yeah, I don't know. Yeah, we've been looking at how much
1:04:11
money they're making and we
1:04:13
think they could probably absorb a price increase.
1:04:16
And you know what, I don't think
1:04:18
that, I don't think from TSMC's point
1:04:20
of view, who functionally has a monopoly
1:04:22
on cutting edge node technology
1:04:24
until Intel gets their act together. I
1:04:27
don't think from TSMC's point of view, they're going to be like,
1:04:30
oh, but what about the poor gamers?
1:04:32
No. Okay, if you're making
1:04:34
G-Force, we'll give you a better deal. That's
1:04:36
not going to happen. Why would they? Why would
1:04:38
they? It makes no economic sense
1:04:41
to do so. So it sucks.
1:04:43
It's not good. It sucks
1:04:45
a lot. It's particularly very bad for us. We've
1:04:47
talked about this a bunch of times though. I
1:04:50
lament often about how when
1:04:53
GPU crypto mining stopped being as much
1:04:55
of a thing, I
1:04:58
was really hoping for a bit of a market crash
1:05:00
so they would feel it a little bit. But
1:05:02
then the AI rise just, it
1:05:05
happened right at the perfect possible time.
1:05:07
Like the stars aligned and just allowed
1:05:09
them to never feel that hit. They're
1:05:11
either really smart or really lucky or
1:05:14
both. Realistically for
1:05:16
success, you need a combination of the two,
1:05:18
which I guess leads us perfectly into our
1:05:21
next topic. Nvidia is
1:05:24
the number two most valuable
1:05:26
company in the
1:05:28
world with a market
1:05:31
cap of 3.012 trillion
1:05:33
with a T. This
1:05:36
makes Nvidia only the third company to cross the 3
1:05:38
trillion threshold. So it's Microsoft,
1:05:41
Apple, and Nvidia. Nvidia
1:05:43
stock appears particularly attractive to retail
1:05:45
investors. So these are everyday consumers,
1:05:48
rather than just professional
1:05:50
portfolio holders. And
1:05:52
they are likely contributing significantly to Nvidia's
1:05:55
upward momentum. Much of the success is
1:05:57
due to their AI chip portfolio, but Nvidia has also reached a
1:05:59
new level of success. new peak of 88% market
1:06:03
share for discrete graphics. Holy
1:06:05
crap. That is the highest it's
1:06:07
been since the company was founded, which is kind
1:06:10
of wild to me because AMD's products right now
1:06:12
are like pretty good. I
1:06:15
am I am still Radeon challenging.
1:06:17
Are you and I'm
1:06:19
fine. Nice. Well, I committed publicly
1:06:21
to skipping the the 40s. Right.
1:06:23
Yeah. And like, you don't have
1:06:26
any more driver issues or anything? For the number of
1:06:28
times I've been called a liar. I'm
1:06:30
a pretty damn honest person. I
1:06:34
said I'd do it. And I'm doing it. Like
1:06:37
I do. So no problems.
1:06:39
So in in my in the
1:06:41
land PCs in the basement. Yeah.
1:06:44
You know, last hurrah, I picked
1:06:46
up used EVGA 30 series. So
1:06:49
it's not like I don't have any Nvidia
1:06:51
in the entire house or whatever. Yeah. But
1:06:53
when the 40 series came out, and
1:06:55
was so under your
1:06:58
primary computer that you distribute to
1:07:00
multiple screens across the house and
1:07:02
use very often 7900 XCX, maybe.
1:07:05
Yeah. Yep. And I think it's
1:07:07
not a cop out that other computers in
1:07:09
the house have other GPUs. He literally like
1:07:11
when when when
1:07:14
we went over to your place to play hockey tape
1:07:17
to tape. Yep. It was
1:07:19
your upstairs computer. Well, okay. Actually,
1:07:24
no, no, I ended up in the basement, I guess.
1:07:27
Oh, did you? Yeah, because I was
1:07:29
not the land before. Oh, yeah,
1:07:31
yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was my desktop. Yeah, at
1:07:33
the land. It was this for a variety of
1:07:35
reasons. But before I
1:07:37
wanted to be able to use my computer. Yeah. If
1:07:39
other people were in the theater. Yeah. Watch.
1:07:43
But yeah, no, I was using my
1:07:45
upstairs computer. Because the computer's downstairs,
1:07:47
but the screen is up. Well, one of the
1:07:49
one of the more I kind of like it's
1:07:52
like, he like usually uses it upstairs, but the
1:07:54
computer itself is not there. Yeah. And
1:07:56
you know what it was, I had some issues with
1:07:58
it at first. It's
1:08:00
been rock solid. That's really good. That's good to hear. Yeah,
1:08:02
it's been rock solid. I
1:08:06
had CompuTex and Vidia outlined its roadmap
1:08:08
for chip architectures with Blackwell Ultra in
1:08:10
2025, Rubin in
1:08:12
2026 and Rubin Ultra
1:08:14
in 2027. They also
1:08:17
showed off their upcoming RTX AI
1:08:19
PCs with co-pilot plus features, though
1:08:21
they seemed reluctant to use Microsoft
1:08:23
branding of co-pilot plus PCs, or
1:08:26
to acknowledge that these RTX PCs
1:08:28
are powered by AMD Strix Point
1:08:31
CPUs. Fascinating.
1:08:35
Discussion question here. We want the glory and
1:08:38
all of the glory. And Vidia is clearly
1:08:40
killing it, but does that really mean it's
1:08:42
worth one and a half Googles slash alphabets?
1:08:44
I feel like this is gonna pop. I
1:08:47
just don't know when, but not investment advice. I don't
1:08:49
know. It just seems like
1:08:51
too much. It feels like another
1:08:56
version of Nortel. Yeah,
1:08:59
I was looking at this pop up
1:09:01
in my Twitter feed, a
1:09:04
comparison of Cisco's meteoric
1:09:07
rise and then leveling
1:09:10
off. I mean, what goes up
1:09:13
exponentially must come
1:09:15
down at some point. But would
1:09:17
I bet against it today? Dude,
1:09:19
if you shorted it when that first
1:09:21
massive spike happened and then
1:09:23
this event happened and it went up
1:09:26
again, you're hurt. Yeah. Like
1:09:29
that would be a really quick way for me to
1:09:31
go completely bankrupt in
1:09:33
like days. Yeah. So, yeah,
1:09:36
I don't know. I don't know, man. If you got
1:09:38
the tea leaves on you, I suspect there's some big
1:09:41
money to happen there, but I don't know. Not
1:09:44
me. Not
1:09:46
me at all. And like
1:09:48
I was number one. Number
1:09:51
one is Microsoft. Not
1:09:54
by much. So
1:09:57
let's see. Let's see who ends up with the
1:09:59
higher valuation. The shoveler. or the shovel maker? I
1:10:01
was just going to say the shovel seller has
1:10:03
not yet surpassed the shoveler. Yeah.
1:10:05
We'll see. But
1:10:07
I mean, in fairness, Microsoft has a lot
1:10:09
of other stuff going on. What I want
1:10:11
to know is like what's next for NVIDIA
1:10:13
because NVIDIA
1:10:17
is one of those companies that
1:10:19
values partnerships until
1:10:21
they don't really feel like it anymore. Until
1:10:24
they don't really feel like it anymore. And I
1:10:26
wouldn't say that they've necessarily Sherlock'd too
1:10:28
many partners. But they
1:10:31
definitely go to loners slash squeezers.
1:10:33
There's a reason NVIDIA
1:10:37
and Apple don't get along. Too
1:10:42
similar. You can only
1:10:44
fit so much ego at one
1:10:46
negotiating table. And
1:10:49
so yeah, I want to see what's
1:10:51
next. Like, okay, look at the way
1:10:53
Bitname behaves about their mining
1:10:56
hardware, right? Yeah. Or has
1:10:58
where they'll like literally first.
1:11:00
Yeah, they'll create a new
1:11:02
generation thing. And like,
1:11:04
at what point with their billions
1:11:07
and billions and billions of dollars, does
1:11:09
NVIDIA kind of just go? Why
1:11:12
are we selling this hardware? I
1:11:15
mean, it's not like the thought never occurred to
1:11:17
them data centers. And it
1:11:19
what about what about, you
1:11:21
know, NVIDIA Enterprise Now instead
1:11:24
of GeForce Now? Why?
1:11:27
That's not even that's actually in
1:11:29
my opinion, that's stronger branding than
1:11:32
GeForce Now. Enterprise Now is actually
1:11:34
wicked brand. Holy
1:11:37
crap. It's not like they couldn't afford to
1:11:39
build a startup. And you're just like, that's
1:11:42
the product that one I don't know the
1:11:44
naming of that for a startup company as
1:11:46
a product for a startup company is very
1:11:48
strong. And so I just like I'm just
1:11:50
looking at it going, why
1:11:53
wouldn't they just take their first
1:11:55
100,000 Blackwell chips and
1:11:57
just give themselves even
1:12:00
like a three month lead. Yeah,
1:12:02
just lease it. I mean,
1:12:04
that's the same thing that Ari does
1:12:07
with their top level cameras. You
1:12:09
can't buy their top level camera. They
1:12:12
can't bin enough perfect sensors at that
1:12:14
size or whatever, whatever the reasons for
1:12:16
it are. The cost would be so
1:12:18
high that they just like, no, you rent this.
1:12:21
We literally will not sell it to you.
1:12:24
So that way we can ensure anything, shot
1:12:27
on Alexa, whatever that, hey, hey, Andy,
1:12:29
Andy, what's the one you can only rent?
1:12:33
The Ari 65 or something like that. Yeah, you
1:12:35
can't buy it. Oh, are you checking enterprise now
1:12:38
on GoDaddy? Yeah, it's already bought. Of course it
1:12:40
is. It's being camped by someone. Yeah,
1:12:42
yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Nvidia can afford it. Yeah.
1:12:47
Dude, I- I'm kind of
1:12:49
wondering if someone just sniped that. Like, well, we- No,
1:12:51
no, no, no, no. There's no way. That
1:12:53
would have been pretty fast. Two dictionary words,
1:12:56
like 12 characters. It was octave. Yeah,
1:12:58
it's probably already taken. Man,
1:13:03
I don't know, man. Does it
1:13:05
mean it's worth one and a half alphabets slash
1:13:07
Googles? Like that's, here's the
1:13:09
thing though. Like AI is going to
1:13:11
be this tool that underpins everything. It's
1:13:13
going to underpin alphabet and Googles efforts
1:13:16
to better target their advertising. It's
1:13:18
going to underpin Facebook's efforts to,
1:13:20
you know, better understand everything about
1:13:22
you in your life and
1:13:24
target you. Like it's going to- And to be fair, a lot
1:13:26
of it already does. I
1:13:29
think it's just like development in this space is accelerating
1:13:32
extremely rapidly. Enterprise
1:13:35
trust in proposals
1:13:37
and willingness to accept proposals of
1:13:40
work in this space are
1:13:43
almost blank check right now. Yeah, I mean,
1:13:45
look at Humane. The
1:13:47
fact that they raised that kind of money
1:13:49
for what was just obviously a stupid product.
1:13:54
Do you see their, oh, that's one of our other topics
1:13:56
today. Do you see they're trying to sell? Yeah.
1:14:00
They have apparently been
1:14:02
in talks with HP. I
1:14:05
love our headline here. I'm gonna credit Jessica
1:14:07
with this. Might've been Riley
1:14:10
though. They both worked on the Doctor of
1:14:12
Creek, I think. Humane and HP, a match
1:14:14
made in Hades. Humane,
1:14:16
the company that made a
1:14:18
reportedly bad AI pin, is
1:14:21
trying to sell its business to HP
1:14:24
for $1 billion, or
1:14:26
roughly what Humane was valued at before
1:14:28
their product launched and subsequently bombed spectacularly.
1:14:31
According to an article from the New
1:14:33
York Times, the company has sold maybe
1:14:36
10,000 pins, adding
1:14:38
up to around $7 million in revenue. Several
1:14:44
current and former employees told the Times
1:14:47
that Humane's founders essentially
1:14:49
banned internal criticism, disregarding
1:14:52
warnings about product battery life, and
1:14:54
even dismissing a senior software engineer
1:14:56
who raised concerns about the pin.
1:14:59
Add that to the fact that Humane has
1:15:01
warned its dozens of users to not use
1:15:03
the charging case anymore because of a fire
1:15:05
safety risk, and I have
1:15:08
no idea where they are getting
1:15:10
this valuation from. Like,
1:15:12
honestly, I think I would try to buy
1:15:14
ICQ before
1:15:17
I would try to buy it Humane. I'm
1:15:20
actually not sure if I'm unserious
1:15:23
about that anymore. ICQ just
1:15:25
shut down. Is it for sale? Could
1:15:27
I buy ICQ? Owned it.
1:15:30
I don't know. Wait,
1:15:32
what's ICQ new? Hold
1:15:35
on a second. ICQ
1:15:37
new. Oh, hold on. Mail.ru
1:15:41
group in 2010. Oh,
1:15:43
I feel like the politics around buying
1:15:45
it from a Russian entity right now. It's VK,
1:15:47
dude. Wait, VK? VK
1:15:51
is like Russian Facebook. Oh
1:15:53
yeah, yeah, okay. You're not buying this. Yep,
1:15:55
sorry. I
1:15:57
don't think they'll sell it to you. That's a bummer.
1:16:00
I don't know if you'd want to even if I even
1:16:02
if they would Yeah,
1:16:06
I I don't think we need to give money to
1:16:09
For the Russian government. What is I
1:16:12
think you now though. I'll tell
1:16:14
you what mr. Putin Pull
1:16:17
out of Ukraine and I
1:16:19
will consider buying your ICU final
1:16:23
offer I Like
1:16:26
that yeah Yeah,
1:16:31
see chat likes the deal chat
1:16:34
likes the deal Mr.
1:16:36
Putin, it's a good deal your move. It's a
1:16:39
solid deal Line
1:16:46
us out here solving geopolitical problems. Yeah, a
1:16:48
hundred percent All
1:16:50
right, it sounds like VK has been
1:16:52
using ICU is like teens You
1:16:56
can chat with friends in VK
1:16:58
messenger and colleagues in VK workspace.
1:17:00
Oh Sorry, no,
1:17:02
no, no, that's not branding. That's them
1:17:05
saying well They might have just they
1:17:07
might have just used ICU tech and
1:17:09
then just like deployed it We don't
1:17:11
even a different product. Yeah, like Skype
1:17:13
or whatever. Yeah. Yeah Dan
1:17:19
we never finished doing merge messages No,
1:17:22
that's right, we've got one more to do and then we're
1:17:24
about 15 minutes to sponsors as well Let's
1:17:30
see. Hey Linus. Can we get some of the details of how
1:17:32
the GPU factory tour video was made? What was planning and communication
1:17:34
like considering you only had three hours to work with keep up
1:17:36
the great work? Was
1:17:40
a lot of fun very chaotic We
1:17:43
had we had a three-person team Oh
1:17:46
shoot Andy. Do you remember the name of that power color
1:17:48
rep? That was super helpful and high-energy and
1:17:50
basically just like was a total Chad helping
1:17:52
us get through there Yeah,
1:17:56
great guy guy.
1:18:00
He does PR there. I'm really
1:18:03
bad with things, but yeah, he was
1:18:05
awesome. Apparently he
1:18:11
started working there when he was like 18. He was
1:18:13
just like, I'm going to work at Power Color
1:18:15
because I'm a GPU enthusiast and he's just still
1:18:18
there now, which is cool. So
1:18:21
he was a big part of helping us
1:18:23
get that tour arranged framework was
1:18:25
a big part of helping us get that tour
1:18:27
arranged because Power Color ended
1:18:29
up being one of the, well, let
1:18:33
me put it this way at frameworks
1:18:35
volumes and with how high touch
1:18:37
they are, right? Like you, you'll, you
1:18:39
saw it in the factory tour. They had to
1:18:41
create a custom rig for testing
1:18:43
frameworks, stupid, rando, you know, GPUs
1:18:46
with their interface they invented, right?
1:18:48
Like this is not, I'm going
1:18:50
to say stupid. I don't mean
1:18:52
stupid. I mean, inconvenient, right? When
1:18:55
you're set up for PCIE thingies,
1:18:57
go into motherboard, weird
1:19:01
pad interface with pogo pins and
1:19:03
needing a rig that can, you
1:19:05
know, like walk onto it and stuff that
1:19:07
that's like extra work. And I'm sorry,
1:19:10
how many of these are you making?
1:19:12
You know, at the kinds of volumes that
1:19:14
the semiconductor industry works in someone
1:19:16
like a framework is a very, very, very
1:19:18
small fish. They're doing great. They're
1:19:20
growing Rome wasn't built in a day,
1:19:23
but they're a very small fish. And so
1:19:27
the fact that Power Color was willing to
1:19:29
take them on was, was a big deal
1:19:31
and was a big part of bringing the
1:19:33
framework 60 into market. So anyway,
1:19:35
framework has that relationship and they
1:19:37
helped to make that connection as
1:19:39
well. And then once we got in there, man,
1:19:41
it was like, normally, we would want
1:19:43
to go around first, make
1:19:45
a bunch of notes frantically. And then I would
1:19:48
lock myself in a boardroom or something, put my
1:19:50
headphones in and kind of rewalk for like a
1:19:52
couple of hours. And then I would like write
1:19:54
everything and I would ask to have someone kind
1:19:56
of nearby that I can sort of holler at
1:19:59
and ask questions. And
1:20:01
then we would go back through and we
1:20:03
would shoot like a scripted, like,
1:20:05
like a roll read. And
1:20:08
then we would also capture all the B roll. This
1:20:10
time, basically, I just
1:20:13
got a verbal briefing on what we were
1:20:15
about to see. And
1:20:17
then I got a like,
1:20:22
like a more detailed, like I kind of put in
1:20:24
my head sort of how much time I wanted to
1:20:26
spend on each one. And then I
1:20:28
got any little details that pertained to each thing
1:20:30
as we went. And then I
1:20:32
didn't have a script. So
1:20:34
people often ask like, what, which videos
1:20:37
are scripted? Which ones are unscripted? Tell
1:20:39
me, does it matter? Could you
1:20:41
tell that that video was unscripted? Maybe
1:20:44
I should maybe I should script less. I
1:20:47
should find one that was scripted. Okay. Could
1:20:50
you tell the Noctua booth was scripted? Yes.
1:20:54
Could you tell that the factory tour was not scripted? I
1:20:56
didn't notice. Useless.
1:21:00
Useless. Okay.
1:21:06
I'm trying to hear from the other
1:21:08
people, from the people in the chat. I don't know
1:21:10
which one they're responding to. They're just saying yes. Useless.
1:21:15
Might as well talk to talk to Twitch chat at
1:21:17
this point. Anyway, the
1:21:20
point is that they would give me any little
1:21:22
details that I needed for that particular chunk and
1:21:24
then I would do it. And
1:21:26
then Andy would go and he would
1:21:28
shoot like any B roll bits that
1:21:30
go along with it. And then Alex
1:21:32
was there to be a backup note
1:21:35
taker during the tour or
1:21:38
during the briefing. And then he
1:21:40
was a note taker. He was our only note
1:21:42
taker during the actual actual tour. And
1:21:45
then he was also noting down the clip numbers
1:21:48
for every section. Some
1:21:51
eagle eyed people noticed that that
1:21:53
video was actually uploaded within 24
1:21:55
hours of us completing
1:21:58
the tour. It
1:22:01
was kind of crazy to get it done because we wanted
1:22:03
it to be part of our CompuText coverage this year. So
1:22:06
it was a little crazy to get
1:22:08
that done, but Alex noting all the
1:22:10
clip numbers was how Dennis, who was
1:22:13
like, I have not edited an LTT
1:22:15
video in about two
1:22:17
years. Let's see how this goes.
1:22:20
That was how Dennis managed to turn around that
1:22:22
edit in just a few hours. I
1:22:24
did a review, we had to change some stuff. I had
1:22:26
to shoot or record a small
1:22:29
audio pickup on my lab
1:22:31
microphone. He exported again and boom, it
1:22:34
was up. I've got three comments. One
1:22:36
is a challenge from ScrappyDP saying,
1:22:39
you scripted the walkthrough in the beginning of the factory
1:22:41
tour. I scripted the walkthrough?
1:22:44
This is a claim. It's lovely
1:22:47
chat. I scripted the walkthrough. Of the
1:22:49
factory tour. Well, when
1:22:51
I say scripted, I mean word for word
1:22:53
scripting. Yeah, not notes. Yeah, I
1:22:55
can show Luke the notes that we had at the
1:22:57
beginning of the tour. This
1:23:02
is the notes that Alex gave me before
1:23:05
we started. These
1:23:07
are the notes that I took. Hold
1:23:09
on. Oh, wait, no, Alex has added
1:23:11
a bunch of stuff to this. None
1:23:15
of this is a script anyways. Yeah, so
1:23:17
here's the SMT line. Yeah, I
1:23:19
will read you word for word. This is what the video
1:23:21
would have sounded like if I had read off a prompter.
1:23:25
This is for the SMT line portion.
1:23:27
Yes. Spray anti-static.
1:23:31
Now that all of the components are validated,
1:23:33
time to put them mounted to board. Anti-static
1:23:35
shower, mount to boards, 9994. Each
1:23:39
PCB gets pushed into the machine, 9999. Intake
1:23:43
of PCBs, soldering paste
1:23:45
dash 0003. Scanning
1:23:48
for paste inspection. Pick
1:23:50
and place, 77,000 components per hour. Cutting
1:23:53
edge machine nearly doubled the speed of their older machines
1:23:55
on a typical line. This investment was
1:23:57
made because small pilot batches are often done.
1:24:00
here 15 minutes from their R&D headquarters
1:24:02
and speed and efficiency is a major factor
1:24:04
in product development dash 0021. VRMs.
1:24:10
GPU die placement dash 0030.
1:24:13
Oven that bakes the solder to attach everything.
1:24:16
Inspection CT scanning dash 0038.
1:24:19
Final of SMT 0044. 0048. Some get stopped for
1:24:22
inspection. 10
1:24:27
to 15% get sent to X ray manual
1:24:29
component placement put on tray add
1:24:32
capacitors. Flux spray 0068 solder
1:24:35
waterfall not quite a slide 0074 final
1:24:38
inspection. Probably
1:24:41
three quarters of that was added by
1:24:43
Alex while we
1:24:46
were going through on the actual. So like
1:24:48
help. So a fraction of that was
1:24:51
was actually done
1:24:53
before we started the tour. Google Doc can
1:24:55
go back. OK, here's the
1:24:57
version. Hold
1:25:01
on. Here's the version before
1:25:03
Alex added notes. Uh,
1:25:06
I also want to say that you
1:25:08
you did the reveal before you asked
1:25:10
if people could tell. So
1:25:15
there was there was a considerable amount of people saying
1:25:17
that they could tell on both and
1:25:19
I'm not saying that you're lying. But
1:25:22
I do think that in a lot
1:25:24
of cases, this one might notice
1:25:26
that something feels different, but
1:25:28
they don't necessarily notice why. OK, and then
1:25:30
you're like, oh, this one wasn't scripted. And they're like, aha,
1:25:32
I knew that that was exactly what I was. I'll
1:25:35
tell you what, why don't we play the game
1:25:37
with some more videos? Did you watch any of our other
1:25:39
coverage? No. What if I can just jump in
1:25:41
here? What
1:25:44
are the numbers? What are the numbers mean? Those
1:25:47
are clip numbers that Alex was adding as we were
1:25:49
shooting. So almost anything with
1:25:52
a clip number was added as
1:25:54
we were going through. So there
1:25:56
was very, very, very little in the way of
1:25:58
of a script. Okay,
1:26:02
here, I'm just going to add a filter
1:26:04
for, let's say views more than 500,000. That
1:26:09
should filter out anything that's just
1:26:11
like unlisted or whatever. Okay,
1:26:15
guys, NVIDIA, NVIDIA tour,
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scripted or not scripted? Go. Why
1:26:22
don't we do our sponsor spots while we wait for
1:26:24
them to think? Do you want to pull it, Dan?
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Okay. Yeah, or do sponsor spots?
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Let him do the poll before you start going. Okay,
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able to show your screen to
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show things? Is that a thing we can
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do? Yeah, I can do
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web pages if you give me a minute or so. Yeah,
1:29:41
sure. In that case, why don't we do
1:29:43
the poll results while we wait for that? I
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don't actually see the poll. I can't do a poll.
1:29:47
I'm going to read through some responses, though. Integrations at
1:29:49
the top. Elijah said... This
1:29:52
is why I said you need to give him time. Because we
1:29:54
started doing the sponsorships. Oh, because he had
1:29:57
to live do the clips. Oh, well...
1:30:00
I don't know, maybe he should grow a third arm. Yeah.
1:30:02
Did he ever think of that? Dan, do you ever think of that growing a third arm?
1:30:06
It's a reasonable response. Do you think you'd be
1:30:08
willing to like help the company, Dan? All
1:30:11
right. Sorry. Inject
1:30:15
some of that forced evolution virus. Dan's
1:30:18
doing great. Let's be encouraging for
1:30:20
Dan. Let's go Dan. Good
1:30:22
job, Dan. I
1:30:25
don't need you, Penny. Do you want to do that topic while we wait
1:30:28
for Dan? Sure, yeah. Sure. Copilot
1:30:31
Plus isn't for everyone. Yeah.
1:30:33
Source, the Verge, Source
1:30:35
2, Microsoft. Everyone. Yeah.
1:30:38
Strangely, Intel, AMD, and Nvidia
1:30:41
seem to be hinting that the
1:30:43
much-hyped laptops powered by their new
1:30:45
chips won't launch with Copilot Plus
1:30:47
features enabled, despite all meeting Microsoft's
1:30:50
required specs, seemingly. Microsoft
1:30:52
has likewise made statements seeming to
1:30:54
indicate that Intel and AMD laptops
1:30:56
will get access to Copilot Plus eventually.
1:31:01
Some, the Verge's Sean Hollister
1:31:03
in particular, have speculated that
1:31:05
Qualcomm might have some kind
1:31:08
of yet unknown timed exclusivity.
1:31:11
In other Copilot news, Microsoft
1:31:13
appears to be making its controversial
1:31:15
recall feature opt-in instead of
1:31:17
opt-out, which is good,
1:31:21
but I still don't like their attitude about it here.
1:31:24
The fact that they tried to make it opt-out, the
1:31:26
fact that it was ever going to be opt-out, did
1:31:29
not indicate a good
1:31:32
faith effort for Microsoft to maintain
1:31:34
the privacy of its Windows customers.
1:31:36
Look, if Windows was
1:31:38
free, like formally
1:31:40
free, I might
1:31:43
feel slightly differently about this. I
1:31:45
still wouldn't like it, but I'd be like, that
1:31:48
makes sense. Windows is
1:31:51
not free. Windows costs
1:31:53
$100. I
1:31:55
know because I just bought a copy of Windows.
1:31:58
Seriously. I bought a copy of
1:32:00
Windows this week. For what? For a cool
1:32:02
video that we did here. We went to the
1:32:04
tech mall. Oh! Yeah, buddy. I'm very
1:32:07
excited about this. We went to the tech mall,
1:32:09
and it was actually Jake's idea. He was just,
1:32:12
he was cruising in the tech mall, and he
1:32:14
found this shop, little hole in the wall shop.
1:32:16
Like, I mean, literally hole in the wall. I
1:32:18
could almost put my arms from one side to
1:32:20
the next side that had this
1:32:24
sick hardline water-cooled system
1:32:26
in the front of it, with
1:32:28
like this 3D printed League of Legends mask in it.
1:32:30
And it just like, it looked flippin'
1:32:32
awesome. And normally you walk
1:32:34
up to those shops, and you're like, I'll take
1:32:37
that one. And they're like,
1:32:39
no, man, that's like for demo. I
1:32:41
can build you like a basic gaming
1:32:43
computer. Yeah. I was like, I want
1:32:46
one like that. And for my
1:32:48
budget, I picked the starting price of
1:32:50
a main gear, what is
1:32:52
it? Whatever their hardline one is.
1:32:55
Main gear, hold on. Oh,
1:32:59
hold on. Yeah, this is my auto complete here. Yeah, I got this.
1:33:02
Hold on. My internet's a little, a little,
1:33:05
it's a rush. A main gear, a main
1:33:08
gear rush, Apex rush, starting
1:33:10
at 51.19. So
1:33:13
I gave them a budget of 170,000 new Taiwan dollars, and
1:33:17
basically was like, bro, I'm
1:33:19
trusting you. I
1:33:21
want it to look really cool like this one. And
1:33:24
I want a game at 4K. I want to be able to play any
1:33:26
game. So I gave him
1:33:28
functionally the same, the same budget. Yeah.
1:33:31
And I just looked it up. It's super similar. I wanted
1:33:33
to know what's, what are you better off with? Are you
1:33:35
better off with an Apex rush?
1:33:38
Or are you better off with some hole
1:33:40
in the wall shop in Taiwan? And
1:33:44
I guarantee you, no matter what you thought,
1:33:46
the answer will surprise you. Really
1:33:49
cool video. Really? Lots of
1:33:51
fun. Yeah, I had an absolute blast. And you
1:33:53
know what? I was having so much fun doing it.
1:33:55
I was like, man, I wish
1:33:58
I could do this kind of stuff more often. Okay,
1:48:03
sure. We're gonna have some merch
1:48:05
messages. Forget Dan time. Okay. I
1:48:08
can ask the merch messages if you want to set up the poll. Yeah,
1:48:11
I mean, I don't have the dashboard up. I
1:48:13
can kind of do both at the same time. I'm
1:48:16
asking a question. I'm doing it. I'm doing the
1:48:18
thing. Let's go Taiwan show. What's the most pointless
1:48:20
thing you saw at Computex this year? Man,
1:48:22
I didn't see that much. Me neither. I
1:48:24
didn't I didn't really make it to the show. Yeah,
1:48:27
I got a I'm gonna I'm gonna completely take
1:48:29
over this because I didn't neither of us really
1:48:31
saw too much of the show. I got my
1:48:33
first swag item I've gotten in
1:48:38
probably like seven years. Oh,
1:48:40
yeah, it felt like I just snorted
1:48:42
meth and cocaine at the same time. Oh,
1:48:44
just the hit. Oh, it was amazing. The
1:48:47
Russia free stuff. Just garbage. You know that
1:48:49
you get so much free stuff from work.
1:48:51
Oh, no, but not just trash, you know,
1:48:54
like it was a branded
1:48:56
bag. That's like this big like there's
1:48:58
no chance I want that. It's like
1:49:00
basically one use the little clasp on
1:49:02
it is already breaking inside was some
1:49:04
coconut flavored snacks that I don't want.
1:49:06
And then there was a voucher and
1:49:08
the voucher looks like a bill for
1:49:10
300 NT. Taiwanese dollars. And I was
1:49:15
like, that's weird. That's not a denomination that I
1:49:17
think exists here. And then I realized that it's
1:49:19
like, oh, if you spend I think it's like
1:49:22
16,000 NT, then
1:49:24
you can use this voucher for 300 at
1:49:27
like Taipei 101 or something. I'm like,
1:49:29
well, that's not happening. So it's all just useless.
1:49:32
And I was like, Yes, we're back. We're
1:49:34
back at shows where they just give you things for no
1:49:36
reason that no one wants. It was amazing.
1:49:40
There's it was actually like, I don't think I
1:49:42
can support any of this. Oh, of course not.
1:49:44
Okay. Yeah, cool. Yeah. Dan, the
1:49:46
polls wrong. Also,
1:49:49
this is hilarious. The poll
1:49:51
is was the factory tour scripted, which I
1:49:53
already told you guys it wasn't scripted. So
1:49:55
the fact that so
1:49:58
many of you are wrong either. Oh
2:08:00
goodness. Sheesh. I'm going to
2:08:02
get you guys out of here in about 45 minutes. So
2:08:05
why don't you do another topic and then we'll move into
2:08:07
After Dark. Okay,
2:08:09
topic time. Google leaks leak.
2:08:12
An internal Google database of thousands
2:08:14
of security incidents flagged by Google
2:08:16
employees between 2013 and 2018 has
2:08:18
given rare insight into how Google
2:08:20
manages these issues. The document, acquired
2:08:22
by 404 Media but confirmed
2:08:24
to be authentic by Google, includes reports
2:08:27
of accidental recordings of children's voices, a
2:08:29
major leak of the itineraries and home
2:08:32
addresses of Waze carpool users, and
2:08:34
an exclusion software failure for Google Maps
2:08:36
resulting in the accidental creation of a
2:08:39
database of thousands of geolocated license plate
2:08:41
numbers. These incidents were typically
2:08:43
reported, investigated, and resolved at the time that
2:08:45
they happened, but only a few were previously known
2:08:47
to the public. There were also
2:08:50
more long-term breaches, such as an incident
2:08:52
following Google's acquisition of socratic.org, where around
2:08:54
a million user emails from the company
2:08:56
were publicly exposed for over a year.
2:08:59
One relatively harmless incident involved the 2017 leak
2:09:02
of the announcement of
2:09:04
Nintendo's Woolly World 2. A
2:09:06
Google contractor downloaded the private announcement
2:09:09
from Nintendo's YouTube channel using admin
2:09:11
privileges and sent a photo of
2:09:13
the video to a friend who then posted the
2:09:15
screenshot to Reddit. Not only
2:09:18
did this friend admit to
2:09:20
getting the photo from a
2:09:22
friend who works at Google,
2:09:25
the URL and the image
2:09:27
started with www.admin.youtube.com. In other news,
2:09:30
replace your own job with AI. In
2:09:33
an interview with The Verge, Zoom
2:09:35
CEO Eric Yuan recently suggested that
2:09:37
Zoom should eventually have a feature
2:09:39
that allows you to, instead of
2:09:42
replace the background, replace
2:09:44
the foreground, delegating your
2:09:46
meeting to an AI-powered digital
2:09:48
twin who could create a summary
2:09:51
for you. This AI double would
2:09:53
likewise respond to emails and answer calls.
2:09:56
This seems to be more than an
2:09:58
anthropomorphized note-taker, however. custom
2:12:00
software. Hendrick theorizes that
2:12:02
Spotify wasn't interested in making this
2:12:05
easy open sourcing more widely known
2:12:07
because the device is essentially a
2:12:10
potato with a weak
2:12:12
Amlogic processor, 4
2:12:14
gigs of eMMC storage, and only
2:12:16
512 megabytes of RAM.
2:12:18
Its hardware is too limited to
2:12:21
do much above its current
2:12:24
intended purpose. I mean, part
2:12:27
that bothers me isn't that it can't do much
2:12:29
beyond it. It's that Spotify tried
2:12:32
to brick it. People have already shown that
2:12:34
they can do what they want with it.
2:12:36
Yeah. Yeah. So the intended purpose was fine.
2:12:38
Yeah. It doesn't really matter that it's a
2:12:40
potato if all it needs to be is
2:12:42
a potato. Potatoes are
2:12:45
cool. I like potatoes. I'm dead. Apple's
2:12:48
holding WWDC next Monday and the company
2:12:51
reportedly plans to announce how it will
2:12:53
integrate AI, Apple
2:12:55
intelligence into
2:12:57
their upcoming products. Yes. Their
2:13:00
AI system will be called Apple
2:13:02
intelligence. It's cool. Because that won't
2:13:04
be confusing at all. I
2:13:07
mean, it's just as useful the name as
2:13:09
artificial intelligence. Okay. That's true. We've got a
2:13:11
video coming on how AI is a lie.
2:13:13
Yeah. And like really is. It's
2:13:16
really cool what we're doing, but
2:13:18
it isn't. There's a lot of cool
2:13:21
AI. Yeah. It was written by Emily.
2:13:23
So she basically like went through and was
2:13:26
like, here's what you think AI is and here's
2:13:28
what it is. And here's what it's really good
2:13:30
at. And here's what it's like not good at.
2:13:32
And that sounds like a good video. I really
2:13:35
liked the de-Google-fy your
2:13:37
life video. Yeah. Seems
2:13:39
like other people did too. I'm excited
2:13:42
for it too. Yeah. I'm genuinely pretty
2:13:44
stoked for part two. Non-AI announcements around
2:13:46
half of the presentation will apparently include
2:13:48
improved customizability for iPhone, as
2:13:51
well as new software for the Vision Pro,
2:13:53
Apple watch and Apple TV. And
2:13:56
finally, oh my goodness. Oh
2:13:59
man. We got a few more things to
2:14:01
get through pretty quick here. Twitter says, okay,
2:14:05
to unclad chests.
2:14:08
The website formerly known as Twitter has added
2:14:10
language to its rules that formerly allows
2:14:14
consensually created adult content on the
2:14:16
platform, so long as it is correctly
2:14:18
and prominently labeled. Twitter has
2:14:20
typically been tolerant of sexual content, though the
2:14:22
site didn't officially condone it. And
2:14:24
to be clear, that is true all
2:14:27
the way back. Therefore, the primary change
2:14:29
will be the creation of an official
2:14:31
tagging system for graphic and explicit adult
2:14:33
content. Some critics have called the new
2:14:36
policy a way for Twitter to reject
2:14:38
responsibility for dealing with the sharp increase
2:14:40
in pornographic spam that Twitter has seen
2:14:42
during Elon Musk's tenure as CEO. But
2:14:45
I actually have an alternate
2:14:47
take. What I'm hoping
2:14:49
is that this just allows things to be tagged
2:14:51
more easily. And so maybe I will
2:14:53
actually see less of it. Yeah,
2:14:56
blurred out or hidden
2:14:59
behind reveal buttons. Our
2:15:01
last topic is first move to Europe, second,
2:15:04
delete Facebook. European users
2:15:06
of Facebook and Instagram were recently notified
2:15:08
by meta that the company will be using their
2:15:10
data for AI training. The policy is
2:15:13
global. It's just that
2:15:15
only European users were informed and only
2:15:18
European users had the ability to opt
2:15:20
out of this use for their data due to
2:15:22
EU legislation. And another unpopular
2:15:24
policy change, Instagram is currently
2:15:27
testing unskippable ads. They nice.
2:15:29
Very good. Nice. Oh, actually, there is one more
2:15:32
thing. The hashtag fixed TF two movement. Um,
2:15:35
yep, it's pretty bad. So
2:15:37
it doesn't seem like they're gonna do anything.
2:15:39
Yeah, quarter million people have signed the
2:15:41
petition and valve is going to do whatever they want
2:15:43
to do whenever they want to do it because they're valve and
2:15:46
they print infinite money and we
2:15:48
all love them for it. All right, time for when show
2:15:51
after dark. Could you please
2:15:53
ask Andy to give me roughly two
2:15:55
stops of neutral density filter? I
2:15:58
could ask Andy for that. But is
2:16:00
not here. Okay, I guess.
2:16:04
Oh, wait, no, no, no, no, hold on. Hold on. Dennis is here. Dennis.
2:16:06
Oh, uh,
2:16:10
can I tell you? Oh, wait.
2:16:13
Do we have an ND filter on there? I don't see an
2:16:15
ND filter. Should be digital. I
2:16:17
can do it. It's fine. Is there a
2:16:20
digital ND on that camera? I don't think
2:16:22
so. Yeah, no, this FX 30. Oh, now
2:16:24
it's dark. Uh, no, no,
2:16:26
it's at Wancho after dark. I
2:16:28
just made it dark. He made it dark.
2:16:30
It's okay. It's okay. Thanks,
2:16:33
Dennis. Oh, yeah, he could have just closed the aperture.
2:16:35
That would have been an option. Oh,
2:16:37
well. Alright. What's
2:16:40
up, Mr. Daniel Besser? Who even are
2:16:42
you? Looks like we got some merch messages. My
2:16:45
wife loves your clothes so much it upsets
2:16:47
her that it isn't readily available and places
2:16:49
women frequently shop. How do you fix this
2:16:51
gap between product superiority and access to the
2:16:54
target market? That's
2:16:56
a really great, great question. If you can answer it.
2:16:59
I think I have a position for you at
2:17:01
Creator Warehouse Inc. Yeah. Oh, I see where you're going.
2:17:03
We're having we're having trouble with marketing. We kind of
2:17:05
yeah, I'm just gonna be honest. We kind of suck
2:17:07
at it. And I don't mean that as
2:17:09
a knock against the team. It's not like I have some
2:17:11
silver bullet and I'm some kind of genius
2:17:13
and I know how to direct a consumer market.
2:17:16
If I was running the marketing. Yeah, exactly.
2:17:18
Like we're really good at being a
2:17:21
marketing vehicle for our sponsors who were
2:17:23
really good at making really good stuff.
2:17:25
Yeah, we're great at making content, but
2:17:27
we actually we don't
2:17:29
know much about the dark
2:17:31
arts of of effectively
2:17:34
using a, you know, Instagram
2:17:36
advertising budget. Yeah. It's
2:17:38
a whole other it's a whole other field
2:17:41
essentially. Genuinely. Yeah. So sorry.
2:17:43
I wish I had more for you. Hi
2:17:46
DLL. Given AMD and
2:17:48
Intel's focus on delivering powerful and
2:17:50
efficient mobile APUs. Do you see
2:17:52
discrete mobile GPUs sticking around
2:17:54
much longer? I
2:17:57
do. They're
2:17:59
great. but a discrete chip is
2:18:01
still going to be the way for a long
2:18:03
time. I think that the split is
2:18:05
going to continue to
2:18:07
widen for integrated in low-end
2:18:10
gaming. Like low-end gaming discrete
2:18:12
GPUs are already functionally not
2:18:14
a thing. But for people
2:18:16
who want real performance on the go, you're going
2:18:18
to need a dedicated GPU for a very long
2:18:21
time. Realistically,
2:18:25
does running your components hot? Home office
2:18:27
gets hot during the summer for work
2:18:29
hours, nine or ten hours a day,
2:18:31
will harm them. Or what's the best
2:18:33
solution for a hot summer days in
2:18:35
a small office? Being
2:18:39
on at all harms your
2:18:42
components. They wear out over
2:18:44
time. We did a good video on TechWiki
2:18:46
on why do computers die?
2:18:49
And basically, even though we think of
2:18:51
them as having no moving parts, like
2:18:54
electrons and stuff, like charges
2:18:59
are being moved around and
2:19:01
stuff. So
2:19:03
they wear out in time. And the hotter they
2:19:06
run, the faster they
2:19:08
wear out.
2:19:10
And so less is better and
2:19:13
more is worse. But
2:19:15
I can't quantify that because it
2:19:18
varies wildly from component to
2:19:20
component, from generation to generation. If I
2:19:22
were to try to generalize and say,
2:19:24
oh, well, you know, on Intel, it's
2:19:26
really bad, or on AMD,
2:19:29
it should be fine. No,
2:19:31
you can't generalize. You
2:19:34
just have to kind of keep things as cool as you can
2:19:36
and do your best with it. Alex
2:19:39
did a really cool video a while back
2:19:42
where he ducked the exhaust heat from his
2:19:44
computer out the window and
2:19:47
vented intake air from
2:19:49
a different part of the window away from
2:19:51
the exhaust heat directly into the computer. That
2:19:53
could help. Yeah. And
2:19:57
last one I have for you today. I'm at an
2:20:00
edtech startup as a CSM.
2:20:03
Third anniversary this fall, but no raise
2:20:05
since joining. The excuse tends to be,
2:20:07
start up volatile, blah, blah, blah. In
2:20:10
your early days, how did you retain talent? Hanging
2:20:14
them more every year. Sort
2:20:18
of. That's not true. Sort
2:20:20
of. Sort of my past. Don't make me go back and
2:20:23
find the records. Yvonne is right there. No,
2:20:25
that is functionally true, but there
2:20:27
was times where you asked
2:20:29
if you could have the
2:20:32
increase be less. That's true. And
2:20:34
realistically, I think most
2:20:37
of, if not all of us, could have made
2:20:39
more elsewhere. Like if you, I think part of
2:20:41
being a part of a startup is understanding that
2:20:43
at the beginning, you're not going to make. You
2:20:45
still have to see a trajectory. It does sort
2:20:48
of depend at the same
2:20:50
time. Yeah, like you saw a trajectory. Not
2:20:52
only does it see a trajectory for one, but
2:20:55
for two, a lot
2:20:58
of startups aren't like what we were like.
2:21:00
So realistically talking about our experience is not.
2:21:05
We started in a garage. They
2:21:07
called it EdTech startup. This
2:21:10
is education. No, no, no, no, no, no,
2:21:12
no, but using that terminology,
2:21:14
like they're probably American. They're probably
2:21:16
West Coast. There's probably BC money
2:21:18
involved. This
2:21:21
is different than the scenario we had, you
2:21:23
know, I mean, sure, but I think it
2:21:25
depends on where this person started. If
2:21:27
that's the case, right? Like basically,
2:21:29
if you're valuable to them, there's two ways
2:21:32
that they can express it. Money
2:21:37
and shares that are worth money.
2:21:39
Yeah, it's going to have to be, it's going
2:21:41
to have to be one of those things. And
2:21:43
if your value to them is growing, then
2:21:45
one of those things has to grow. And
2:21:50
like, you know, you
2:21:53
can promise a pot of gold at the end
2:21:55
of a rainbow, but that only holds
2:21:57
for so long. And I think three years is
2:21:59
a really long time. long time. Yeah. Like
2:22:02
by three years in, we had
2:22:04
had that conversation about, hey, here's the
2:22:06
budget for next year. Do you want to
2:22:09
raise or do you want us to hire these positions? We
2:22:11
had had that a year prior, by the time we were
2:22:13
three years in, we had that a few times.
2:22:15
That was about the two year, but I think the first one
2:22:17
was around there. Yeah. And
2:22:20
there were still increases. They
2:22:22
were just smaller. Lots of assumptions there. I
2:22:24
mean, sort of, he called himself a CSM.
2:22:26
Yeah. Assuming certified Scrum Master. I thought
2:22:31
it was, I thought
2:22:34
it was something manager, customer service manager, maybe
2:22:36
customer, customer success
2:22:38
manager, customer success
2:22:41
manager. Computer
2:22:43
science major is another option. I
2:22:48
mean, that a company as
2:22:50
a command service module. I like that. I
2:22:52
like that. That's good. Yeah. It'd be nice
2:22:54
to actually know what the position
2:22:56
is, but basically I think no raise
2:22:58
in three years is pretty bad, essentially.
2:23:00
Something's got to be going on there. Yeah.
2:23:02
Yeah. Yeah. That's definitely a conversation. And that's,
2:23:04
I mean, that's a question too, right? Like
2:23:07
if they're not able to grow the revenue
2:23:09
or raise more capital or do whatever it
2:23:11
is that they're doing, what is
2:23:13
your future there? So your future can't
2:23:15
just be at some indefinite point in
2:23:18
the future. Your future is either now or
2:23:20
it's the future. And if it's in
2:23:22
the future, then they should be like going good enough that
2:23:24
they can show you some future, if
2:23:27
that makes sense.
2:23:29
Yeah. I don't
2:23:32
have any tips for you
2:23:35
with respect to Kat, Yurin,
2:23:38
Francis, but thank you
2:23:40
for your merge message.
2:23:43
Okay. And then we
2:23:45
got one more here, I think. Right Dan? No,
2:23:49
I think that's about it. That one's just a thank
2:23:51
you one. Oh, I see an incoming one. I
2:23:54
ended up buying an X1 carbon
2:23:57
because Dan sold out the P1P
2:23:59
with a weeks with his review which was
2:24:01
amazing. Oh okay that's not good. Unboxing. All right
2:24:04
see you later. Unboxing
2:24:06
yes okay yeah that's a good type
2:24:08
of distinction. And
2:24:11
I think that's it. That is all. We will
2:24:13
see you again next week. Same bad time,
2:24:15
same bad channel, different uh
2:24:17
cooler location. Yeah especially for you
2:24:19
with the laptop in your lab that is streaming and
2:24:21
doing all the way on the phone. Wanna see how
2:24:23
wet my legs are? Yeah kind of.
2:24:26
Oh no! Oh
2:24:30
my goodness. It like honestly kind of
2:24:32
looks like my piece. You need to
2:24:34
hydrate after this. Oh yeah 100%. Oh
2:24:36
oh god oh god hold
2:24:38
on. Okay oh we're
2:24:41
very tangled up here but check this out guys. Oi
2:24:43
oi oi. I don't know
2:24:45
if you can tell but it's
2:24:48
like yeah very different color there.
2:24:50
I've got sweaty thighs. Okay bye!
2:25:18
you
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