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2:00

snapped and the kidnapper has a mask on, but once he

2:02

shows you his face, he's got to kill you. Correct.

2:05

And they've shown their face. Yeah. You

2:07

know, again, I don't think there's anything

2:09

they wouldn't do. I mean, you put out something, I think

2:11

it was on Twitter yesterday, which was, you know, sort of

2:14

that extreme, like, well, if they can't get Trump this way,

2:16

what's the next level? And I think

2:18

we've proven that they'll do that in the past. They

2:20

were now figuring that out. We

2:23

understand that. I think the system's probably been broken for,

2:25

you know, much longer than any

2:27

of us would care to admit. And for me,

2:30

I saw it firsthand. At least 61 years it's

2:32

been broken since they killed the president in an

2:34

election year. Exactly. And, you know, for me, I

2:36

still, even when we started this process, even I'd

2:39

say it's safe to say I was probably the number

2:41

two target of, you know, Russia, Russia, Russia. And

2:45

I was like, well, there must be something to it.

2:47

I know I didn't obviously collude with Russia, but maybe,

2:49

you know, maybe I took a selfie with an agent

2:51

once because I took 10,000 selfies a day. Right.

2:55

But even like knowing that I was a

2:57

target, I was like, I still believed because I

2:59

wanted to write a one. I

3:01

get it. America is the greatest place in the world. And you can do

3:03

it. And I'm like, you know, it's the FBI. You

3:06

know, again, there's some door kickers that I'm still like,

3:08

hey, their home team, I get it. They're

3:10

doing eventually those guys are going to have to speak up though. Right.

3:13

I gave her long pass. I gave the door kickers

3:15

a pass for far too long, which is like, hey,

3:17

you know, they can't go against the leadership of like

3:20

when you're watching this kind of bastardization

3:22

of justice, when you're watching this sort

3:24

of lopsided level when they're, you know,

3:26

they spend more time, you know, kicking

3:28

down the doors of an Amish farmer

3:30

selling unpasteurized milk than actually going after

3:32

people committing terror because, you know, they're

3:34

trans or, you know, whatever it is

3:36

that they are. You

3:39

really lose that ability to get that pass

3:41

that I really wanted them to give. But

3:44

I, you know, I wanted to believe that

3:46

everything I grew up believing was accurate and

3:48

it's all bullshit. It's

3:50

just all bullshit. So we have to fix that. And

3:52

that's why we fight now to actually make it so.

3:54

But you saw this in January 6th too. I mean,

3:56

I know that Joe Scarborough and the

3:58

rest of the liars. presented those

4:00

people as like insurrectionists and dangerous

4:03

they were actually the most Pure-hearted

4:06

and the most naive about that I mean they

4:08

were they were literally walking with pocket Constitution saying

4:10

you can't do this They believed in the system

4:12

much more than the people who put them in

4:15

prison who don't believe in them at all Without

4:17

question and you saw that I mean it you know the

4:20

narrative was pushed so much They the clips

4:22

that they used were designed to create something

4:24

that didn't actually happen I mean it's

4:27

so sick You know I will say you

4:29

know it was the first unarmed insurrection in

4:32

the history of insurrections I mean it's never

4:34

happened before but arguably I'd

4:36

say probably the most heavily armed populist if they wanted

4:38

to have been right of course But if but of

4:40

course it wasn't an insurrection it didn't matter and they

4:42

wanted to run out the clock I'm like they could

4:44

hardly believe this is happening And

4:47

I think you're describing the same thing

4:49

like you really believed it in our

4:51

institutions and our norms and democracy I

4:55

Did and it took again?

4:57

I mean literally threats of you

4:59

know you're going to jail for treason a crime punishable by

5:01

death That's like not a great swing thought when you're going

5:03

through it. You're a man. I'm like wait a minute like

5:05

if you're a father of five kids And

5:08

and yet I still at the beginning of it. I was like

5:10

and then it just Your

5:12

eyes start to open and you see the games and you

5:14

see the people that are on your side And you see

5:17

the you know the Lindsey Graham's of the world right they

5:19

they get on TV And they're on you know Fox

5:21

or something like that And they're like well we

5:23

must subpoena these people and we must get to

5:25

the bottom of this I'm like well You're like

5:27

the chairman of the judiciary committee like you have

5:29

you have the authority to do that like like

5:31

you but you're talking about Doing

5:33

the thing that you have the authority to

5:36

do, but you're unwilling to actually exercise that

5:38

power So that was what disgusted

5:40

me most about like the Republicans right it You're

5:43

telling your base the people who are watching

5:45

you know like you're fighting But

5:47

you know damn well that you're not actually fighting no

5:49

right, and we see that so much. That's the difference

5:51

between The difference

5:54

between the Democrats. I mean they've shown hey,

5:56

they'll put their opposition in jail. They'll smother

5:58

them. They'll silence them There's

6:00

nothing they won't do to preserve power.

6:02

We'll write a strongly worded memo and

6:05

do nothing to follow up. And

6:07

I think as long as you have that sort

6:09

of imbalance in the response, nothing

6:13

changes because the Democrats, they'll take their win.

6:15

They'll run to the bank. They'll laugh their

6:17

ass off along the way, and nothing

6:20

changes until we actually start fighting back. I think a

6:22

lot of people yesterday when that verdict came down –

6:24

I'm among them – my first reaction

6:27

was, wow, they'll actually hurt us. They

6:30

would execute us, me – I'll just say

6:32

it, speak for myself – and there would

6:34

be an MSNBC panel of former federal prosecutors

6:36

telling their audience that I deserved it, and

6:38

they'd be laughing. The Lincoln Project would send

6:40

out a congratulatory tweet,

6:42

and I was like, wow, there's sort

6:44

of a lack of humanity. There's a coldness. There's an

6:46

evil under all of this that I think I underestimate.

6:50

I think we all did. And by the way, I

6:52

think many still do. Again, it's

6:55

hard to believe that you could live through these

6:57

last eight years or whatever, ten years, and not

6:59

think that. I mean, look at – that

7:02

this is even within ten points in

7:05

terms of an election. I can't name

7:08

literally a single metric, a single one –

7:10

geopolitical, economic, or otherwise – like,

7:12

we're better off now. And

7:16

yet, they'll out-raise us. They'll do this. The media

7:18

still pushes it as though – you know, Vitamix

7:20

is doing wonderfully for you. I get it. I'm

7:22

the son of a billionaire. I'm literally – If

7:24

I'm pissed off at the grocery store – I'm

7:26

not one of these woke guys on one of

7:28

these channels where it's like, my three-month-old baby was

7:30

talking about nuclear proliferation on the Karelian Peninsula at

7:32

Takaraya. And she was

7:34

crying. She was scared. I get

7:38

it. I understand where I'm coming from. I'm totally comfortable with

7:40

that. I've been blessed. But like,

7:42

if I'm sitting there with sticker shock, like, what's

7:44

the country feeling? You know, if I see what's

7:46

going on in my interest rates of my mortgage, like, man, how

7:50

much longer can we do this? Then you talk

7:52

about wars and trillions of dollars of spending, and then

7:54

the Republicans are telling us that, you know, the

7:57

Ukraine is the number one most important issue for Republicans

7:59

across our country. I've heard that from Mitch McConnell

8:01

dozens of times. It's just

8:03

not, right? I've spoken in front

8:05

of more Republicans in the last year than Mitch

8:07

McConnell has in his entire lifetime, and I think

8:09

I've surveyed probably I do it live, like just

8:11

at a speech. A thousand people here, 500 people

8:13

here, 5,000 people there. It's

8:17

been a top 10 issue in about 60, 65,000 people for

8:19

three people. One

8:23

of them was a DC

8:25

sort of beltway guy. He felt very strongly

8:27

about it. Probably he was profiteering off of

8:29

it. One of them misunderstood the

8:32

question, so he thought it was a double negative. So it was

8:34

not in fact a top 10 issue for him. Because

8:36

I do, is it top three or top 10? And

8:38

one of them, it was top 10, but not top three. And I

8:40

said, sir, you know, and I'll ask him, I don't care. I want

8:42

to hear it out. Like, why is, well, I'm from Kiev, Ukraine. I

8:44

was like, I'm going to give you a pass. So

8:47

I'm going to effectively say out of about 65,000 people

8:50

surveyed in the last, you know, let's call it two years, 18

8:52

months, whatever it is, since the war started, a

8:54

little more, I guess, exactly. You

8:57

know, basically zero people have been in favor of this,

8:59

but the leader of the Senate will tell us it's

9:01

the number one issue for Republicans across the country. It's

9:03

just not so. How can I, I was in DC

9:05

last night. I never go back. I'm from there.

9:07

And I took three people to dinner for people to

9:09

table. Nobody drank for all three. I am a teetotaler.

9:11

So the other three, and

9:13

it's a good restaurant, but not like a famous

9:16

restaurant restaurant. I've eaten that for many years. The

9:19

bill was $800 for $800 not

9:21

drinking, not drinking and

9:23

no nothing crazy. Like salad,

9:26

steak, dessert, $800. And

9:28

I thought, you know, I'm

9:30

pretty insulated from costs, but I thought I can't, I

9:33

can't. How do people live here? My experience was opposite of that.

9:35

I took two of my boys on a fishing trip and we

9:38

were coming back traveling through an airport and we went to a

9:40

McDonald's and it was my 11 year old boy, my 14 year

9:42

old boy and me at the time. And

9:44

it was like $47 and change for

9:47

like an 11 year old child, a 14 year old child

9:49

and me. I'm like, again,

9:52

it's not going to change my spending habits. I'm not pretending.

9:54

I'm like, my truck has 700 horsepower. Like,

9:56

you know, I'm not happy at the pump, but like, but

9:59

if they're telling my. the war against Russia is the most

10:01

important thing to America. Yeah, no, it's not. They're lying. So

10:04

both of us have sort of skipped ahead, passed

10:07

an analysis of the case and sort of taking

10:09

it as a given that what

10:11

we saw yesterday was grotesque and really sort of

10:13

the end of a fair justice system. But

10:15

for people who've just heard that and

10:18

not gotten some of the

10:20

details that prove it to be true, can you

10:22

just run through what the case was? I mean,

10:24

it's literally- You know too much. I

10:27

know. How much time we got? But

10:30

it's a books and records thing,

10:33

right? I mean, it's literally a filing. It's like

10:35

a misfiling. And yet it's

10:37

something that was never before tried as a felony.

10:40

Like many of the other cases, like one of

10:42

the cases in New York where they literally- They

10:44

changed New York state law to

10:46

be able to, for one year, they

10:49

changed the law for one year to be able to go

10:51

back and change a statute of limitations so that

10:53

you could go after my father. And then after that year, after that

10:55

is filed and they go after my father, that was the G Carroll

10:57

case, it reverts back to

10:59

the normal statute of limitations because otherwise they wouldn't have

11:01

been able to do it. This was very similar. This

11:03

was a case that was, you know, at best misdemeanor

11:06

type stuff. Remember Hillary Clinton started with

11:10

a similar thing she got fined. $8,000,

11:13

I believe it was, for starting what was the Russia

11:15

Russia Russia hoax with the Steele dossier

11:17

leaks and all of this, right? That was an $8,000

11:19

fine. They want to put my father in

11:21

jail for, you know, upwards of 100

11:23

years depending on how you look at it. That's

11:26

never been done before in these things

11:28

because basically someone in an accounting department

11:30

put legal expenses for, you

11:32

know, paying a lawyer.

11:36

It's unheard of. But you have experts when they

11:38

say, well, it's a federal election crime.

11:40

They wouldn't let the person who wrote

11:42

the rules, like wrote them,

11:44

as the foremost expert in all of that,

11:46

actually testify for us. The

11:49

jury didn't have to be unanimous on the things that they charged. They

11:51

just all had to sort of come to a general, if four guys

11:53

agreed on this and four people agreed on that. That's

11:55

unanimous. The bastardization of all of

11:57

this thing and it just having been in the courtroom. was

12:00

watching when the prosecution objected

12:04

to something that we said, it was

12:06

always sustained. They

12:08

let them just – we couldn't ask anything. When

12:10

it was us asking the questions, the uncomfortable questions

12:13

of their witnesses, all of a sudden, we

12:15

were overruled every time. Just the list

12:17

goes on and on and on. So you've

12:20

made the case, and others who followed it

12:22

carefully have made the case, that this

12:24

was a direct hit from the Biden administration. And

12:27

they point to a man called Matthew Colangelo. Can you tell

12:29

us who he is? Yes. Matthew Colangelo

12:31

was the number three guy in Joe Biden's Justice Department.

12:33

So from Washington, D.C. The

12:37

other big part of this case, as it relates to

12:39

that, was that they're trying to say it's a federal

12:41

election commission case. Well, name

12:44

another case that's ever been tried that's a federal crime

12:46

tried in a state court. So Matthew Colangelo is number

12:48

three at DOJ. So that's

12:50

about as high as a prosecutor can ascend. Correct.

12:52

And he was moved to New York. Don't forget,

12:54

Alvin Bragg, the district attorney that actually tried this

12:56

case, turned it down years ago. They could have

12:58

done this seven, eight years ago whenever it happened,

13:01

but they didn't. The Federal Election Commission, the FEC,

13:03

that would have been one of the things that's around it. They could

13:06

have tried it. The IRS could have done these things because if it

13:08

was a tax thing, all of them chose

13:10

to pass, including, again, Alvin Bragg, the guy who's trying

13:12

it and just tried it right now, passed

13:14

on this a couple years ago. Biden's number three

13:16

at his DOJ comes up, and all of a

13:18

sudden now they're filing the charges

13:20

conveniently right before an election. A dumb question. So

13:23

the number three guy at DOJ

13:25

who's ascended this ladder, okay, what

13:29

is he doing in New York? I

13:32

mean, that's a massive step down. He's prosecuting

13:34

his political enemies, Tucker. There's literally no other

13:37

explanation for it. When

13:41

you look at the bastardization of this, you have a judge

13:44

who's a Biden donor. His daughter

13:46

is one of the number one Democrats. When he says Biden donor,

13:48

he's literally a Biden donor. He's a Biden donor. Like

13:51

literally has written checks himself. His daughter is one

13:53

of the most prolific fundraisers for the radical Democrats,

13:55

Adam Schiff and like she's made millions off of

13:57

that. This Judge allowed his daughter to

13:59

pay $1 million. clients, democrat, mega donors to sit

14:01

in the courtroom. It's like having front row seats.

14:04

Are you on the New York Rangers right? It's

14:06

as think of how insane that it's read it

14:08

every time I was a dumb question. For.

14:10

Throw Why would the number three

14:12

guy Dj wind up in a cease

14:15

and speak to that seems like he

14:17

must have been sent more than

14:19

two. If the judge was

14:21

literally a biden donor and donating to

14:23

among other things like the stop trump

14:25

effort with something was one of of.

14:28

How. Could he remained the judge? How to do?

14:30

because it's a New York that what? What would you

14:32

appeal to you? Peel it to another panicle panel of

14:34

radicals. right? A man. He was like

14:36

the New York Educates Rights we got find

14:38

almost a half a billion dollars for paying

14:40

back. Or bank on

14:42

time with interest. The. Bank who's

14:45

the alleged victim is understanding like know a

14:47

lot, probably want to do more business for

14:49

Trump, not less. having their portfolio was a

14:51

feather in our cap that we used to

14:53

generate other business. Doesn't. Matter. You're a victim.

14:56

Ah, It's it's It's pure and

14:58

simple. political prosecution, prosecution. They're they're going

15:00

after There's There's nothing that they won't

15:02

do to stop Trump and A understand

15:05

now. With. Years. Of

15:07

experience and what else I think you know Going

15:09

in as a novice was great in many ways

15:11

but you also don't know who the snakes are.

15:13

You know who the people who are going to

15:15

actually help you and be sort of loyal to

15:17

the cause and that causes it would be do

15:19

We elect a president has the things you said

15:21

you would do vs doing what the swamp once.

15:24

Slow. Rolling what the President wants to all

15:26

those on elected officials And so I think. The.

15:29

Notion of Trump coming back now actually

15:31

scares them so much more because he

15:33

has that knowledge. He has that understanding

15:35

and I think that make him so

15:37

much more effective in a second term.

15:39

Well, and also if you're going to

15:41

kill the king, you better kill the

15:43

king. You best not misses the think

15:45

that's exactly right. You have come to

15:47

the obvious conclusion that the real debate

15:49

is not between Republicans and Democrats are

15:51

socialist and lives right last. The real

15:53

battles between people who are lying on

15:55

purpose and people who are trying to

15:57

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15:59

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16:02

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16:04

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16:24

you will not regret it. So are

16:26

you worried? Well,

16:29

will this stop the campaign like what effect

16:31

is now listen, I spoke to my

16:33

father, you know right after the verdict You know

16:35

today. I mean, yeah, obviously

16:39

It's a somber moment. I mean, you know, you know me

16:41

well enough I you know, I can pretty much, you

16:43

know fight through anything and we keep going and he

16:45

will too But you know, it is a somber moment

16:47

but more so for our country. So but if anything

16:49

I Would

16:51

say it's actually strengthened his resolve. I

16:54

think he listened in 16 It

16:56

was the elevator ride right before the emcee

16:58

that's going to write, you know Now we find out who our

17:00

real friends are, you know, he knew what was gonna happen He

17:03

knew the celebrities would go but he knew that

17:05

and he did it anyway I think

17:07

after 2020 he understood that if he just went

17:09

home He could go play golf and go back to

17:12

building buildings and making millions and getting paid to give

17:14

speeches and stuff like that It's

17:16

just too much at stake. And so he's he's

17:18

just unwilling to stop I got to think a

17:20

lot of people are looking back to four years

17:23

ago and reaching the conclusion Well, if

17:25

they'll rig a trial, they'll probably rig an election.

17:27

I think without question I think

17:30

you know The reality is, you know what I

17:32

see, you know on the ground the amount

17:34

of people from the the demographics that probably

17:36

have never voted Republican before that are

17:38

just you know, you know grabbing me at

17:40

airports or like even walking down the streets, you know

17:42

in New York the other day, it's

17:45

It's amazing. I mean I I did a for

17:48

example, you know I was one of the most out

17:50

there people in terms of rallies and campaigns doing my

17:52

own thing in 16 and 20 I

17:54

think just for example October of 2020. I

17:57

think I did a hundred and four rallies in

17:59

that month with four a day for a month

18:01

straight. I'm on the ground. The

18:03

energy in 2020 was better than even 16, amazingly

18:06

enough, but they had that ability to weaponize COVID and

18:08

all of that stuff. We saw the nonsense. It's

18:12

so much stronger right now and we're still six months out.

18:15

That doesn't mean they won't do, again, I

18:18

don't even pretend to think that, hey, it's

18:20

gonna be fair and they're not gonna cheat.

18:23

I used to probably think that, hey, there's only so far they

18:25

can go. How, they're gonna roll

18:27

this guy over the line and a gurney and

18:29

pretend he's, because I used to

18:32

think they actually had maybe

18:34

a little bit of shame, but

18:36

that's not actually at ultra. I don't think they

18:38

care anymore. They're laughing at, when they use democracy,

18:40

it's a sound bite. But they're never punished. They're

18:43

never punished. They weren't punished for the Iraq

18:45

war or the Afghanistan withdrawal or the lies

18:47

around COVID, the vaccine mandates. They weren't

18:50

punished for the 2020 election. Oh, Russia, Russia, Russia.

18:53

I mean, not only are they not punished, Tucker, they're

18:55

given better jobs. They either keep their job and

18:57

then they get a CNN contributorship to talk about

18:59

preserving democracy. But maybe, I mean, if you treated

19:02

your kids this way, they'd be sociopaths. I

19:04

think they are. Well, they seem to be. I mean, they

19:06

are. I'm sure they had boomer parents who indulged them, of

19:09

course. But I mean, someone

19:11

needs to be punished at some point, right, so it

19:13

stops? I think without question,

19:15

I don't think, we have not done that

19:17

well, Republicans, right? The Democrats don't

19:19

fear us because they know we'd never play the

19:21

same game because we actually believe, what

19:24

they think is like, ha ha ha, a sound bite. We

19:26

actually believe those things. And

19:28

it's actually hard, it's hard for me to

19:31

say those things because I'd love not to have to play

19:33

that game, but I don't believe there's another answer, other

19:35

than like, we have to fight fire with fire. As

19:37

long as we're playing T-ball, while they're playing

19:40

fast-picked hardball, they're going to win, they're

19:42

gonna take their power, they're gonna run to the

19:44

bank, they're gonna, and laugh every step of the

19:46

way. There's

19:48

just not enough actual fighters there. I mean, when you

19:50

look at, even honestly, look at the Republican bench. It's

19:54

not very deep. In terms of the guys

19:56

that you'd actually hate, who's the guy I won on Fox Hall? Who's the

19:58

guy that'll actually fight? Who's the guy that's not... gonna succumb to

20:01

the pressures of Washington DC. Who are they? I

20:04

mean, like right now, I mean, I love a

20:06

guy like a J.D. Vance. You know, there are

20:09

a couple, but man, that list is, who's

20:12

next? Mike

20:14

Lee is kind of becoming that guy. Yeah, Mike Lee's a

20:16

fighter. I like Mike and, you know, and it's interesting. It's

20:18

one of those, you know, in 2016, Mike

20:21

Lee and I almost got a fist fight on the convention floor.

20:23

Like, you know, we were very different, but like he's a guy

20:25

that I text with probably daily. And

20:28

so it's interesting that, you know, once you actually

20:30

have that relationship, you can actually, people come around,

20:32

it's like, okay, you were actually right. Well, people

20:34

change on the basis of evidence and what they

20:36

see. Correct. My views are totally different from what

20:38

they were 10 years ago. I think the problem

20:41

with DC is for conservatives, it's actually an easy

20:43

existence. You could be a Republican in DC as

20:45

long as you're Republican-like. Of course.

20:47

You know, if you're like, hey, say whatever you

20:49

want when you're speaking to a group of 10

20:51

people in your little hometown, you know,

20:53

you come to DC, you can vote with the Republicans

20:55

like 80% of the time. When

20:57

it actually matters, as long as you vote with

21:00

us, Washington Post isn't gonna come after you. They're not

21:02

gonna be protesting in front of your home. It's an

21:05

easy existence. You'll get invited to the cool person Christmas

21:07

party and, you know, sorry, holiday party. I don't wanna,

21:09

you know, they don't

21:11

celebrate Christmas. No, they don't. No,

21:13

well, because they don't believe in God, right?

21:15

The Democrats, their gods are evolving, right? They

21:18

go, you know, Greta Thunberg is the high

21:20

priestess of climate change. Ouchy is

21:22

the, you know, the Lord of

21:24

science. Yeah, science and COVID. And

21:27

these days it's Vladimir Zelinski, the

21:30

high priest of Ukraine, which is apparently the number one issue

21:32

for a couple of years across the country, but I've not

21:34

yet seen that anywhere. But

21:37

those are the people they choose to be their

21:39

deities and, you know, everything follows that

21:41

path until they burn out, flame out or,

21:43

you know, get exposed for what they really

21:45

are. How can you run a presidential campaign

21:47

when you're fighting

21:50

multiple legal battles, criminal?

21:53

Well, I mean, that's by design, right? I

21:55

mean, you look at all of these things. They

21:57

understand, listen, Joe Biden in a baseball.

22:00

is good for Joe Biden's campaign. Because

22:02

if you put him on a stage,

22:05

it's a negative. He's incapable of getting through a

22:07

teleprompter. He would get lost at this table. Yes.

22:10

And I don't say that as

22:12

like, glibly. No, it's sad. It's sad. I

22:15

feel bad. He

22:17

can't get through basic things, and yet he's the leader

22:19

of the free world or whoever's pulling

22:21

the marionette strings. Trump

22:26

locked in a courtroom for five weeks while he

22:29

should be campaigning. That's really good for

22:31

them, because he can bring that message to people. People

22:34

understand what he's saying. It

22:36

resonates with them. He's able to

22:38

bring people over who would not have otherwise been

22:40

able to, or would have ever voted Republican. He's

22:43

one of the few guys that can do that,

22:45

sort of expose the left for what it is,

22:47

expose what we're talking about, break through the noise

22:50

put out there by the mainstream media,

22:53

break through the noise and sort of the

22:55

manipulation of big tech. And

23:00

those are trillion dollar industries that are

23:02

functioning as the marketing department for today's

23:04

Democrat party. And to

23:07

be able to single-handedly sort of

23:09

break some of those walls down, I

23:13

felt like if I was in charge of that, if I was in

23:15

charge of the Democrats, we'd be winning elections 99.9 to 0.01. Exactly.

23:20

And yet they're still close. I

23:22

think our messaging is there, and I think

23:24

it's really important, perhaps, honestly, the stuff

23:27

that they've done to my father, perhaps

23:29

it's the most important thing to happen to America

23:31

in recent history in that it's

23:33

exposed just how bad it is. I think there's a

23:35

difference. You can't hide from it anymore. It's not like,

23:38

I get it, you come home from a long

23:40

day of work, you're trying to feed your family, you're listening to five

23:42

minutes of Brian Stelther on TV, he's

23:44

like, well, there's gotta be something to it. During

23:47

the early campaign stuff, if I watch TV and hear about

23:49

myself, I'm like, man, I hate me too. It's

23:53

so bad, people feel it every

23:55

day. They're not going

23:57

for it anymore, and I think it's why they're watching you

23:59

here or me on rumble. or whatever it

24:01

may be, they're going to other places

24:03

to hear an alternate viewpoint because the

24:05

machine just isn't delivering anymore

24:07

and it's so unreal. But the

24:09

machine knows that and the machine exists

24:11

to perpetuate itself, that's the only point,

24:13

is to maintain power. These

24:16

are incompetent people with no other prospects in life other

24:18

than running the machine. Well not all of them are

24:21

incompetent. When I see what tech is doing. Yeah,

24:24

when I see what tech is doing though, you even

24:26

see it now, because I see just the

24:29

algorithm. It'll show me just enough of

24:31

what I want to see but never promote anything else. And

24:33

my meta platforms, I haven't grown in three years and yet

24:35

everyone that comes up to me, hey you got the greatest

24:37

Instagram I've ever seen. So the

24:39

people who are already following me will

24:41

see my stuff so it appears. It's

24:43

almost like it's AI designed to let

24:45

you think you're not

24:48

being censored or that you're able to

24:50

see the stuff that you want. Oh I'm aware.

24:52

That they're preventing that growth. You're well aware of

24:54

that. So the evolution of that is making it

24:56

harder. In 16, 17, 18,

24:59

when I was starting to get censored by, let's call it Twitter 1.0, they're

25:02

like, well how do you know you're being censored? I was like, well because

25:04

yesterday I got 7,500 retweets on

25:06

a post, today I got three. And it's, I do

25:09

my own social, when I hit that button, I know

25:11

what it's going to do. I know when

25:13

it's, okay that's a decent post, I don't know, that's hot, that's gonna

25:15

go big. And it's like when it goes

25:17

big for about 30 seconds and then it's like, just,

25:20

you see exactly what they're doing but

25:22

they're coming up with better ways to

25:24

make it appear as though they're not censoring while

25:28

still continuing to perpetuate

25:31

and push the ideals that

25:33

they espoused and valid. No one interfered in

25:35

the last election more than Mark

25:37

Zuckerberg. Or Google. Or

25:40

Sergey Brin, that's exactly right. But let me ask

25:42

you, the convictions

25:44

come down 34 yesterday and your father goes

25:46

out there and just basically raises the middle

25:48

finger and says we're gonna win anyway. And

25:52

within hours, Benning Thompson of

25:54

Mississippi, who's a monster, Democratic

25:57

Congressman, says, introduces legislation.

26:00

to pull his Secret Service. So basically they're saying, okay,

26:02

we'll kill you now. Well, they did that a while

26:04

ago also. If he goes to prison, we want to

26:06

pull his Secret Service. So basically if we put him

26:08

in a cell, we're gonna put him in a place

26:10

where he could be murdered by a death threat. Of

26:12

course it is. But from a member of Congress, again,

26:16

should it surprise us? I mean, you look at half

26:18

the Congressmen, you'll get in their faces, make them feel

26:20

it. I mean, they can say these things and they

26:22

are lauded as heroes. If we've said something even remotely

26:25

like that, we're literally inciting

26:27

violence. I mean, those words are violence, sucker. The

26:30

double standard that's

26:33

out there. I mean, Congresswoman after

26:35

Congresswoman, you have a

26:37

Hamas caucus in Congress calling for the

26:40

death of people in the Middle East. Well,

26:42

that's okay, you can't do that. If we did something similar, we'd

26:47

be blocked, we'd be off of every platform,

26:49

we'd be canceled. Again,

26:53

different games. We're playing two very, very

26:55

different games. But that's so threatening. Tony

26:59

Fauci, he doesn't even work for the government. He's

27:01

got secret service protection. He walks in the dog

27:03

park in Washington, D.C. I happen to know for a

27:05

fact, because it's my dog park, a former

27:07

dog park, and he's got three guys following him, but

27:09

they want to pull it from your death. Well,

27:12

look at what they did with some of the justices, the Supreme Court

27:14

justices, right? I mean, you think that they'd be

27:16

able to do what they've done to,

27:18

even, I mean, Alito, even this week, we're

27:20

gonna make him recuse himself because his wife hung a flag

27:22

upside down. I was like, well, you know, she can't express

27:24

an opinion. What they've tried to do

27:26

to Clarence Thomas, what they did as it relates to Gorsuch and

27:29

others, it's

27:32

insanity. If they did that to Ruth Bader Ginsburg, if they were

27:34

picketing in front of their house, like they did Amy Chloe Barrett,

27:37

that would be a serious problem. Those people would go to

27:39

jail, of course. But you know, we'll let the, you know,

27:41

that's the conservative justice, we'll let them suffer a little bit.

27:44

We'll make sure it, but it's effective.

27:46

Because then you see some of them, and some of

27:48

them are a little weaker than, you know, perhaps their

27:50

principles. And, you know, they're like, man, it's a little

27:52

bit easier. Maybe I got to go a little light

27:54

on this one because it's not worth the headache. When

27:56

the Democratic Party's militia shows up outside your house, it's

27:58

happened to me. Yeah. You know, people

28:00

are intimidated by that. Of course. And we

28:02

see it across the board. It's designed,

28:04

you know, the Hunter Biden laptop. That's Russian disinformation.

28:07

Here's 52 intelligence officers signing off on it. Oh,

28:09

it must be. Four years later. Oh, no, it's

28:11

actually his laptop. Yeah, there's no

28:13

accountability for that either. But either they're

28:15

like, well, don't worry, admitting it now. It's like, no, but you

28:17

got exactly what you wanted at the time. We

28:20

understand there's no accountability for it. That's

28:22

election interference as much as anything else. Also,

28:25

you know, there was a stat like it was 17

28:27

percent of people said they know about the Hunter

28:29

Biden laptop, it would have changed their vote in

28:31

2020. 17

28:33

percent. That's a lot. That's

28:36

a lot of votes. And

28:38

yet, you know, that was the gospel. And if you said

28:40

anything about it, we've had the conversation about, you know, Wuhan

28:42

lab leak theory. No, no, no, of course it

28:44

didn't come from the lab. It studies the virus in

28:47

question that we find that it came from the wet

28:49

market three feet outside of the lab. And if you

28:51

believe otherwise, we're going to pull your funding. If you're

28:53

a doctor, you'll lose, you know, you'll lose tenure.

28:55

If you're at a university, you won't, you know,

28:57

Fauci's going to not sign off on your your your

28:59

grants anymore. And even if you're like,

29:02

but you don't have to be a scientist, like,

29:04

how would you know you're not a virologist? It's like you

29:07

don't have to be a virologist to know that it happened there.

29:09

You just have to not be an imbecile. Like,

29:11

you know, you can have like mid

29:14

double digit IQ and be like, of course it

29:16

came from the place that studies the

29:18

exact virus in question that was at ground

29:21

zero of where it released and

29:23

not from four feet outside of that. Like,

29:26

it's insane. And yet think of the truly

29:29

intelligent people in positions of power

29:31

and medicine and otherwise who went

29:33

along with this blindly because,

29:36

you know, it was easier to do. And, you know,

29:38

there's a lot of money and, you know, it's not

29:40

hard to do that now, though. I mean, everything that's

29:42

happened isn't all that long ago. I mean, right. But

29:44

it's this. I do think at this point, if you're

29:47

still telling yourself those lies, you are lying to yourself,

29:49

you're a liar. It doesn't matter. They correct it years

29:51

later, but they got what they needed out of the

29:54

ruse. Right. Right. They got what they needed.

29:56

And again, because there's no accountability after the

29:58

fact, it doesn't matter. They'll do it again

30:00

and they'll make it the gospel for six months or you

30:03

know, they always said, you know, the difference between the truth and

30:05

the conspiracy theory is six months. Yeah. You

30:07

know, now it's like six minutes, but they'll still get what they want out of that

30:09

six minutes, use it to

30:11

manipulate whatever they need to. And you know,

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30:15

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30:20

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it play out from here over the next five

31:32

months? I mean, they tried to put him in

31:34

prison. They're still, do you think he, we got

31:36

to overwhelm the margin of fraud. So it's, wait,

31:38

it's just to ask. It's July 11th is sentencing.

31:40

July 11th. Yeah, by the way, you think

31:42

that's a coincidence. That's four days before the

31:44

Republican National Convention. You think that's a coincidental

31:47

timing or do you think that's designed to

31:50

throw a wrench into that?

31:53

I mean, you know, yet another coincidence, right? What

31:55

happens if they can, they were Amanda and put him in jail

31:57

then. I imagine they will

31:59

try. Why? Why wouldn't they?

32:01

Yeah, of course. Does anyone think?

32:04

And again, I know that's too far. Nothing's

32:06

too far. And

32:09

again, until it happens, everyone, we have to

32:11

stop giving them the benefit of the doubt thinking they're going to

32:13

act above board. Just

32:16

a norm length transaction. No, it's not. What

32:18

are you talking about? There's not a single aspect of this case

32:20

that should stand in any court. Where

32:22

do you appeal right now? To the

32:24

New York Appellate Division, which is just as radical? And

32:27

it's not just this case. Look

32:29

at all the shade, all the craziness around

32:32

Fannie Willis, right, that case. You

32:35

look at Jack Smith and the FBI doctoring documents

32:37

and setting up staging photos and then leaking it

32:39

to the Washington Post, the classified documents that end

32:41

up on the front page of the Washington Post.

32:43

That's fine. Each one of these things wouldn't

32:47

stand. If we did this to, meaning

32:49

conservatives, some sort of Republican, did this

32:51

to Obama, it

32:54

would never end. It would be a perpetual story,

32:56

and rightfully so. And yet, like,

32:58

hey, as long as it's against a conservative, as long

33:00

as it's against Trump, who's up against that machine, we're

33:03

going to allow these things to happen. It's not like

33:05

one of these things doesn't have any serious

33:08

hair on it. They're all shady as hell.

33:10

And yet it doesn't matter. And our mainstream

33:12

media almost refuses to cover it. They

33:15

won't talk about these things. My

33:17

father, in many cases, is gagged. I mean, think

33:19

about that. I mean, you know, First Amendment is

33:21

kind of the First Amendment, right? It's a big one for us.

33:25

The former president of the United States is not allowed to talk

33:28

about the facts of the case, because if people

33:30

actually heard that from him, they'd

33:32

realize just how much BS is in

33:34

all of these things. That

33:37

should trouble a lot of people. You think it stops

33:39

with Trump? Like, I mean, think

33:41

about that. I mean, if they

33:43

can do it to arguably one of the most out

33:46

there, most powerful people in the world, a

33:50

bank account to be able to fight, a base

33:52

to push it, venues to be up

33:54

a soap box to speak from, if they can do

33:56

it to him, who can't they

33:58

do it to? And importantly,

34:00

if they will, so flagringly and

34:02

so corruptly do it to him, who

34:05

won't they do it to? I mean that's the question

34:07

we have to be asking. I mean is

34:09

anyone safe? And it's like

34:11

COVID. People going blindly along, no, it's going

34:13

to be different this time. I'm like really?

34:16

That's what you've got out of this last

34:18

eight years? The Republican candidate, who is leading

34:20

in the polls, all things equal, he becomes

34:22

president again in November. If they

34:24

put him in jail right before the

34:26

presidential, the Republican convention

34:29

on fake charges stemming

34:31

from a rigged trial,

34:34

they're kind of pushing violence, aren't they? Listen. How do

34:36

they expect people to respond to that? Nothing like that

34:39

has ever happened to me. In reality, you have to

34:41

be careful even how you talk about that, right? No,

34:43

they are pushing violence. Well, they

34:45

are. They are. They clearly

34:47

are. Again, nothing should surprise us.

34:50

The star witness of this case is someone who

34:52

lied before every branch of Congress was disbarred, lied

34:55

to banks, lied to wives, lied to the press,

34:57

but we're expected to believe that he actually told

34:59

the truth in this one instance. That's who

35:02

they hang their hand on because it doesn't matter. When

35:05

it's rigged the way it is, it doesn't

35:07

matter. We're moving toward something ugly and I

35:09

don't want that. No

35:11

one does. But

35:14

they're not going to let it play out.

35:16

I mean, do you think they'll ever take their foot off

35:18

the gas? No, it's not. They've gotten away

35:20

with it for years. How

35:23

should people respond, do you think? I

35:25

think honestly, the reality is everyone has to get

35:27

involved. Yeah. Again, both sides.

35:29

I mean, you have to have people

35:33

running for office. And I'm not talking about president

35:35

or Congress. Like, run for your school boards.

35:37

I mean, that's perhaps the thing that's most important to me.

35:41

Frankly, there's a component of me that I don't want to

35:43

win the presidency if we don't have Congress in the Senate

35:45

because I'll probably be up on charges again and we'll

35:47

get to go through impeachment, you know, three, four,

35:49

five, six, seven, eight, nine, you know, for the

35:51

next four years. And,

35:54

you know, I don't think that's a great place to be. But I

35:56

think, you know, apathy

35:58

has caused us a lot of problems. especially on

36:00

the conservative side. Hey, we run businesses and we do

36:02

these sorts of things and we want to spend time

36:04

with our families on all noble things and important, but

36:07

we have to take the initiative

36:09

to get involved at every level of these

36:11

things because the left has taken over every

36:14

major institution in our country

36:16

that controls. I mean, what they've done

36:18

in education, manipulating our children, what

36:20

they've done in entertainment, oftentimes the same thing.

36:24

It can't stand if we actually want to

36:26

have a future. Our

36:29

kids, they graduate out, there's high schools with higher districts,

36:31

no one can read or do math, but they know

36:33

the 4,376 genders. And

36:36

I imagine since this interview started, there's probably another

36:38

15 that I haven't included that, so I

36:40

don't want to be labeled as whatever

36:43

you, a gender bigot by not including them,

36:45

but that's the last I've been able to

36:47

keep track of. We

36:50

just live in perilous times. It

36:53

does seem kind of heartening. I think he raised

36:55

more money in the hours after the verdict than

36:57

anyone's ever raised. How much did you raise? It's

36:59

over, I think $38 million in

37:02

the first couple of hours, small

37:04

dollar donors, and then there was a bunch of big dollar

37:06

donor stuff. That's what's interesting. I mean, there

37:08

are tech VC guys, respected

37:11

guys, that Hillary

37:13

donors and even probably Biden donors, they're

37:15

like, okay, I've seen enough, stroking

37:19

six and seven figure checks now because I

37:21

think people who are watching closely enough truly

37:23

understand just

37:26

how far we have fallen, just

37:30

how close we are perhaps to that fulcrum point

37:32

where there's a point of no return, right?

37:35

Yes. And I think

37:37

if we ever let it get there, there's no question

37:39

in my mind that the Democrat, they'd maintain and seize

37:41

that power and it'll happen like all

37:45

sort of communist nations. And that's

37:48

where we're at. And I think people see that. And people who

37:50

may not even agree with Trump on everything, you don't have to

37:52

agree with Trump on anything like that. I

37:55

obviously agree with him on everything Tucker. As

37:57

the dutiful. But

38:00

you know, it's reached a lot of principle though.

38:02

Yeah, but it's like again,

38:04

you know name name a metric where we're better

38:07

off under Joe Biden You know, we're

38:09

on the brink of you know, World War three

38:11

with the world's largest nuclear superpower by volume of

38:13

nuclear capable You know ballistic missiles. I don't

38:15

know. We're gonna keep funding that we

38:18

we're okaying You

38:20

know a guy that was a former

38:22

like weirdo actor to send the US made missiles

38:24

into Russia provoking that I guess and maybe that's

38:26

What it is. Maybe that's the next distraction, right?

38:28

You know COVID was the distraction for 2020 to

38:31

allow them to manipulate things Maybe World War three

38:34

is the distraction, you know for

38:36

this election. Some of us called this a year ago Yeah,

38:38

man can't win. They're gonna bring us to

38:41

war. Yeah, I mean honestly like I

38:43

don't say that lightly But I don't say it like

38:47

I don't know what would I be at all surprised? Not

38:50

even I think it's lunacy. I think

38:52

it's crazy. But do I think they would do it a hundred percent? a

38:55

Hundred percent. Do you think since you last question

38:58

was just and I might be skipping ahead But

39:00

I don't think we're far from where we're at

39:02

war with Russia Of course if

39:04

we're targeting with a blower talking about the boots on

39:06

the ground I mean that like I've never seen a

39:08

whistleblower disappear that fast in my life. Yeah, you wonder

39:10

why huh? It's almost

39:12

like it's happening But they would need you know,

39:14

the military is in very tough shape and recruitment

39:16

is way down. No one wants to join the

39:18

training military Understandably now

39:21

they're talking about well who would right? Well,

39:23

why would you who's gonna the guys you'd

39:26

want fighting a war for you? You know

39:28

good patriotic red-blooded Americans They

39:30

don't want to go report this you trans admiral not

39:33

because if the trans admiral was patent. Maybe they do

39:35

it Yeah, the trans admiral ain't patent No Okay The

39:37

trans admiral is only an admiral because they're trans not

39:39

because they're competent or capable and it doesn't matter It's

39:41

grotesque a big part of you know signing up for

39:44

that and possibly dying for your country is actually believing

39:46

in the things that You're fighting for that's the basics

39:48

of patriots as a that's exactly and if you don't

39:50

believe in those things and you understand that you're going

39:52

to be vilified You know,

39:55

you're gonna be forced to not learn how to shoot but

39:57

do diversity training. Why on earth would you

39:59

do that? I would And that's the problem they're facing.

40:01

And so the one solution

40:03

was to take illegal aliens and put

40:05

them in the military. So we could have a- Or

40:08

flood our borders and put them in the

40:10

voting roster. And that's another way to make up higher

40:12

up because you've lost other demographics that were reliable voters.

40:14

But they're also talking about the draft. You're hearing that

40:16

all of a sudden. Well, maybe we need a draft.

40:19

So we can be a never ending wars. Again, no

40:24

one's articulated to me, and I kind of do this

40:26

now, feels like for a living. No

40:29

one's articulated, what does victory in Ukraine look like?

40:31

And I don't know what it means. Like,

40:33

is it just like perpetual death of Ukrainians

40:36

and Russians until they're all wiped out and

40:38

BlackRock comes in there and takes over all

40:40

the farmland? I mean, is that what it

40:42

is? Because it, I mean, feels

40:45

like that's what it is to me. They're going

40:47

to, they're already selling off land

40:49

in Ukraine to foreign investors, and they

40:51

will flood Ukraine with third rule immigrants,

40:53

and Ukraine will not exist in

40:55

50 years. There'll be no Ukrainian nation. And

40:58

we betrayed them like no other country ever. But

41:00

I just ask, would people actually serve in a

41:02

draft? I'd

41:05

have a hard time. Honestly, the

41:07

metric I use for this is not just the recruitment numbers,

41:09

but the amount of guys that I know, you

41:12

know, I shoot a lot and whatever, the circles

41:14

are tiny, like, that are like fourth generation army.

41:16

I know. They're like, I would

41:18

beat the crap out of my son if he decided to

41:20

just, like, these are guys that, you know,

41:23

there are entire ethos around that military

41:25

background. They're great friends, and they're like,

41:27

they wouldn't even think about it. They'd

41:29

disown their children if they joined this

41:31

military today. And that's sad. So

41:33

we're saying that's going to make sense. That's scary. Well,

41:37

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