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'When the Hammer Turns Against the Sickle': Civil War Amongst The Republican Revolutionaries, The INLA vs The IPLO

'When the Hammer Turns Against the Sickle': Civil War Amongst The Republican Revolutionaries, The INLA vs The IPLO

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'When the Hammer Turns Against the Sickle': Civil War Amongst The Republican Revolutionaries, The INLA vs The IPLO

'When the Hammer Turns Against the Sickle': Civil War Amongst The Republican Revolutionaries, The INLA vs The IPLO

'When the Hammer Turns Against the Sickle': Civil War Amongst The Republican Revolutionaries, The INLA vs The IPLO

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18 plus. Turns and conditions apply. We waited

1:01

in the shopping center. He came to

1:03

us. We can't talk here. We

1:07

were taken to a safe house in Belfast. There

1:10

in a small room where a child's Irish dancing

1:12

trophies hung proudly on the fireplace, the

1:14

INLA commander, Hugh Tornie, slumped in a

1:16

chair and we talked to the couch.

1:20

He wanted to talk about the feud. He

1:22

believed that the feud was deliberately planned to

1:24

remove the INLA from the scene by people

1:27

who were only interested in joining the provisionals.

1:30

He then produced a battered colored photograph. It

1:32

was years old and showed a group

1:34

of smiling INLA men, some

1:36

of them founding members of the organization, gathered

1:39

on a sunny day outside their prison hut, behind

1:42

the barbed wire fences of Longkesh camp. It

1:46

was taken by a smuggled camera a few days before

1:48

the successful breakout of May 1976. These

1:53

smiling men would one day end

1:55

up killing each other. He stated

1:57

at the picture inside, you wonder

1:59

how it happened. This is

2:03

an excerpt taken from the book INLA

2:05

Deadly Divisions by Henry MacDonald and Jack

2:08

Holland. And in this episode

2:10

we look at what led the two Republican

2:12

Socialist groups cocking their weapons and taking aim

2:14

at each other. This

2:33

is the Troubles Podcast, a podcast about the

2:35

violence and bloodshed that occurred in Northern Ireland,

2:37

the Republic of Ireland and Great Britain, as

2:40

multiple sides and organisations waged a bloody

2:42

conflict over the status of Northern Ireland.

2:47

This work is the intellectual property of the Troubles

2:50

archive. The author of this

2:52

article must make it explicitly clear at this

2:54

point that they in no way seek to

2:56

glorify or legitimise the ideology or actions of

2:58

organisations that are both highly dangerous and illegal.

3:04

Two centuries ago, the French

3:06

philosopher Jacques-Mélée Dupin remarked that

3:09

the carnage unfolding before him on the streets

3:11

of Paris, like Saturn, the

3:13

revolution devours its children, as

3:15

those who had screamed for revolution had violently

3:17

thrown off the yoke of monarchy and were

3:19

now turning upon each other with just as

3:21

much vigour and bloodlust as they had against

3:23

their masters. Over

3:26

the course of two centuries, this was

3:28

to be a familiar pattern that those

3:31

who roared for revolution and violently rallied

3:33

for change would find themselves in a

3:35

quagmire of fraticidal violence and fictionalism. Bringing

3:39

about feuds between what George Orwell

3:41

condemned as smelly little orthodoxies, this

3:44

was between the Bolsheviks and the

3:46

Mensheviks, in the Chinese Communist Party,

3:49

between the followers of Mao and Lucio Palestine

4:00

amongst the PLO and the PLFP.

4:04

No revolutionary group in any theatre of

4:06

war and anti-oppression has ever been immune

4:08

to the sceptre of brotherly violence. Yet,

4:12

to the author of this episode, nowhere

4:15

has the example of intergroup violence

4:17

amongst revolutionaries been so extraordinarily visible

4:19

than in 1987 on the streets

4:21

of Belfast during the

4:24

heights of the Troubles. When

4:26

two groups of men, all burning with the

4:28

same goal, suddenly rallied behind their prospective leaders

4:31

and in the early winter of 1987, turned

4:33

against each

4:35

other with just as much hatred and bloodlust

4:37

as they did against the British. This

4:42

feud would raise more questions than answers and

4:44

to this day some of the families of

4:46

the men who were murdered still demanded to

4:48

know why what happened was allowed to with

4:51

such ease and

4:53

who benefited from the killing. The

4:56

two groups involved were the Irish National

4:58

Liberation Army, also known as the INLA,

5:01

and the Irish People's Liberation

5:03

Organisation, also known as the IPLO.

5:07

These were two organisations that had men within

5:09

their ranks that espoused

5:11

the doctrine of Marxism, that

5:13

in the beginning were inspired by

5:15

the high and lofty words of

5:17

Pierce, Connolly, Lenin, Guevara and

5:20

Franz Fannin. Under the INLA

5:22

command and alongside the political wing of the

5:24

IRSP, they had sought to fight

5:26

against the colonial occupation of the British rule.

5:31

Free the working class of capitalistic

5:33

dominance and bring about a 32-county

5:35

Socialist Republic. However,

5:37

instead of romantic struggle, they

5:39

would become submerged in a

5:42

murky world of criminality, revenge,

5:44

sectarianism and cold-blooded murder. By

5:48

the end of this feud, 12 would be dead

5:51

and both organisations would be shadows of their

5:53

former selves. Yet, as will

5:55

be shown, this feud would have implications for

5:57

the peace process and the current reality of

5:59

the world. that we still see today. But

6:02

to come to this place of understanding, first we

6:05

must go to the beginning. Before

6:08

the gunfire began in January 1987, the

6:10

clouds of civil war had gathered to

6:12

some several years before that. In

6:15

the years leading up to 1987, the INLA

6:17

was in dire circumstances. Though,

6:20

as others have rightly stated, this

6:22

observation seems almost ritualistic. For

6:26

in the author's opinion and many others,

6:28

the INLA and its political wing, the

6:30

IRSP, had lurched from crisis

6:32

to crisis from the moment of their inception.

6:36

For after the jailing of Dominic Mad

6:38

Dog McLynchie in 1984, his

6:40

deadbolt hold on the INLA via

6:42

direct military rule had masked the

6:44

serious failings within the organisation that

6:46

were now about to become dangerously

6:48

clear. Firstly,

6:51

they had suffered an enormous loss

6:53

of manpower due to the testimony

6:55

of Supergrass Harry O Kirkpatrick. This

6:59

led to some of the most experienced

7:01

and battle-hardened operatives such as Jared, Dr.

7:04

Death Steenson and Thomas Ta

7:06

Power, Hugh Torney, Michael Kearney,

7:08

Colin Peake, Jimmy Brown and many other

7:10

men being jailed in 1985. Second

7:14

was the problem of gangsterism and racketeering.

7:19

This was embodied in the case of Tom

7:21

McCartan, who was alleged to be McLynchie's

7:23

right-hand man and chief torturer of suspected

7:25

informants and rivals. McCartan

7:27

had declared himself OC of Belfast

7:29

and had set up extortion rackets

7:31

across West Belfast that were

7:33

terrorising people and small businesses. This

7:37

problem became so great and widespread that

7:39

the charity Green Cross stopped gathering funds

7:41

for the families of INLA prisoners. The

7:46

third issue was the growing problem

7:48

of factionalism. After

7:51

McLynchie's jailing, the INLA was now

7:54

breaking up into mutually suspicious and

7:56

antagonistic fiefdoms. There was the

7:58

Dublin-based INLA under Jerry Rhodes. and

8:00

Harry Flynn and the brother of Sean Flynn who

8:02

sat on the INLA's Army Council. Then

8:06

there was the dairy-based INLA under Terry

8:08

Robson and Tommy McCourt. There

8:11

was the Belfast Brigade INLA or for

8:13

better terms INLA General Army Headquarters which

8:16

was a loose confederation of men such

8:18

as Hugh Turney, Tom McAllister and John

8:20

O'Reilly. But were

8:22

all under a Chief of Staff of a man

8:24

from Nury known as Jap. And

8:29

most importantly there was the men in jail due

8:31

to the testimony of the Supergrass Harry Kirkpatrick. Lastly

8:35

was the INLA's armed campaign which

8:38

after the heady days of McGinchie had

8:40

become spasmodic and ineffectual. From

8:43

the bizarre and violent campaign against doorman

8:45

which they called Renta Tuggs to

8:47

their attacks which proved disastrous to their pure

8:49

image such as the Darkly Church killings

8:52

or the Dittus Flats bombing which killed two children

8:54

in 1982. Yet

8:57

they were still dangerous as the graves

9:00

of many RUC officers and loyalists such

9:02

as William Bucky McCulloch and

9:04

John McKeig testified to. However

9:06

the INLA had fallen far from the

9:09

high aspirations of its creator Seamus Costello

9:11

who wanted to bring the pillars of imperialism

9:14

tumbling down. On

9:16

its political front the IRSP had now

9:18

begun to submerge itself in the realm

9:20

of Marxist-Leninist theory. Speaking

9:23

openly of revolution and that they would like

9:25

to liberate the Irish working class and drive

9:27

out the British war machine. This

9:30

language seemed flat, ceremonial,

9:33

empty. As one

9:35

author noted the entire mood of the IRSP

9:37

was that of a group of people who were going

9:40

through the motions. Yet

9:42

this newfound submergence into Leninist dogma was

9:44

embodied in 1983 with the announcement of

9:48

Jim Lane who would become IRSP chairman.

9:51

Lane was adamant that the IRSP should

9:53

embrace political doctrine and become fully astute

9:55

in the learning of revolutionary theory and

9:57

academia. and

10:00

the rife gangsterism showed just how detached

10:02

from reality the IRSP had become. Another

10:06

pivotal occurrence was the September 1984

10:09

Ard Fisch, when the IRSP

10:11

announced that they would formally declare that they

10:13

were now a fully Marxist-Leninist party, and that

10:15

the works of Karl Marx and Engels would

10:17

be their bible, and that all

10:19

members of both wings political and armed would

10:21

become fully schooled in the learning of these

10:24

works. These

10:26

events seem innocuous, but if we all look

10:28

a little bit closer, the ideological turns of

10:31

the IRSP would lay the foundations for the

10:33

bloody feud. Reception

10:35

to this declaration was greeted not just

10:37

with indifferent shrugs, but with anger

10:39

both on the streets, and most

10:42

importantly in the cells of the maze

10:44

and crumbling jail, and it was on the

10:46

streets and in the cells that the lines were gradually

10:48

being drawn in the sand. The

10:51

first move was made by John O'Reilly, a

10:53

man of mixed reputation, a cowboy

10:56

to others, but to some such as

10:58

Terry Harkin, a brilliant operative. Former

11:01

OC of the markets area, he made

11:03

a bloodless coup and told the Nury

11:05

Chief of Staff, aka Japp, that he

11:07

was stood down and that O'Reilly himself

11:09

was now the Chief of Staff of

11:11

the INLA GHQ, General Headquarters.

11:14

This news was greeted with suspicion and anger,

11:16

leading one INLA man to claim, we've

11:19

had more Chief of Staff than a brothel's had

11:21

punters. Yet O'Reilly in his typical

11:23

manner got straight to work. Firstly,

11:27

in 1985 he established himself in

11:29

Dundalk and formed links with a

11:31

former provisional commander to secure arms

11:33

for his paramilitaries. Then

11:35

he made his second move which would set the ball in

11:37

motion for the feud. He

11:40

turned his eyes to the Dublin-based INLA. The

11:43

Dublin-based INLA under Jerry Roach and

11:45

Harry Flynn still held the belief

11:47

that despite the current doldrums and

11:49

inertia of the INLA, the

11:51

party that Seamus Costello had created could be

11:54

kept alive. O'Reilly

11:56

saw this as a threat to his rule, so in

11:59

a particularly cunning move, he had one of

12:02

his men lift guns from a Dublin

12:04

INLA arms dump. Roach,

12:07

understandably upset, conferred with O'Reilly to

12:09

have this matter resolved and arranged

12:11

a meetup. O'Reilly

12:13

used this meetup as a chance to strike. The

12:17

meetup was at a house near Shannon, and

12:19

as Roach approached the house, a car came

12:21

screeching up the road and a masked gunman

12:23

opened with a burst of gunfire from the

12:25

passenger window. The

12:28

bullets missed and Roach dived for cover and

12:30

then burst into a house for shelter which

12:32

ironically belongs to a special branch officer. The

12:36

next move was against Harry Flynn. This

12:38

took place on Gardner Street in Dublin. When

12:41

Flynn was walking down the street and saw

12:43

two unmasked men waiting with guns, Flynn

12:46

screamed at the gunman who both turned and

12:48

fled, one of the

12:50

gunman Flynn recognised as John O'Reilly. The

12:53

ball had been set in motion. O'Reilly's

12:56

next move was the procurement of weapons, which,

12:58

since the INLA's inception, was every chief

13:00

of staff's constant source of frustration and

13:03

worry. O'Reilly then

13:05

turned his gaze to one man who lived across

13:07

the English Channel in Paris called Seamus Ruddy. Now

13:11

for reasons which can't be fully explained in

13:13

this episode, the INLA had a small nucleus

13:15

of IRSP and INLA men in Paris. And

13:19

the INLA had a history of procuring

13:21

weapons from members of the Palestinian Liberation

13:23

Organisation and the Action Direct in France

13:25

as well. O'Reilly

13:28

and several other men travelled to Paris and

13:30

met Seamus Ruddy at a bar in the

13:32

bustling suburb of Montparnasse, which

13:34

lies at the southern section of Paris on the left bank

13:37

of the River Seine. Now

13:39

Ruddy had broken all links with the INLA and

13:41

was wary but was given assurances that this would

13:44

be a meeting of old comrades. On

13:47

the 9th of May 1985, Seamus Ruddy

13:49

was last seen entering a bar. What

13:52

happened next we'll never truly know, but

13:55

according to varying sources, O'Reilly

13:57

and the men tortured and interrogated Ruddy.

14:00

believing that he knew where arms dumps were

14:02

buried in a forest nearby. Ruddy

14:04

was then taken and executed with two shots to

14:07

the head and buried in the forests of France.

14:11

His girlfriend Cecilia Moore was working in the

14:13

Republic of Ireland at the time. She

14:16

received a call that his friends were worried as

14:18

Ruddy hadn't been seen in a number of days.

14:21

She flew to Paris to meet an INLA man

14:23

who she knew well and

14:25

due to his reputation she was quite fearful. When

14:30

they met she asked him where was Seamus

14:33

and he cheerfully informed her that he had gone back

14:36

to Ireland. She replied asking

14:38

how was that possible. The man

14:40

shrugged and replied while walking away and

14:43

said, who knows, maybe he swam

14:45

back. Seamus Ruddy would

14:47

go on to be counted as one of the disappeared,

14:50

with his body eventually being discovered in 2017. Yes

14:55

in 1985 this was a Rubicon crossing

14:57

for O'Reilly. He was showing

14:59

himself as ruthless and using the gun to

15:02

solve all problems. The

15:04

reaction to Ruddy's murder caused bitterness and anger

15:06

amongst the ranks of the disaffected INLA back

15:09

on the streets of Belfast. Yes

15:12

the greatest catalyst for this feud wouldn't come

15:14

from INLA men on the streets, but

15:17

from one man sitting in a cell in Belfast

15:20

and that man was Gerard Steenson. Gerard

15:24

Steenson who had been jailed on the

15:26

testimony of Kirkpatrick was a renowned INLA

15:28

operative. With a reputation

15:31

for ruthlessness and cunning, he

15:33

earned the nickname Dr. Death from his actions

15:36

when only at the age of 16 he

15:38

killed the official IRA commander Billy Macmillan

15:41

in an earlier feud between the INLA and

15:44

the official IRA. He

15:46

then rose up as OC of the

15:48

Belfast INLA and under his command, his

15:50

group assassinated loyalist figures such as Red

15:52

Hand commander John McCaig, plus many off

15:54

duty or UC men. He

15:57

was also involved in operations in South Armagh and was found in

15:59

the US. highly active during the hunger strikes of 82. Whilst

16:03

in his cell, Steenson began to ruminate and

16:06

despair about the current situation of the INLA.

16:09

He felt the organisation was now at the point of death,

16:11

led astray by rogues and men of poor

16:14

caliber. He

16:16

also felt that the problems of gangsterism

16:19

and ego were crippling the movement of

16:21

forceful republicanism. Throughout 1985 and 1986

16:23

these thoughts can be found in

16:26

the set of comms he sent out of his cell, written

16:29

in minute detail on cigarette papers. The

16:33

papers made their way to the members of the

16:35

Dublin-based INLA, Harry Flynn and Jerry Roach, whom

16:38

ironically he tried to have assassinated

16:40

in 1982. These

16:42

comms to the power base in Dublin revealed

16:44

a startling level of political astuteness and tactical

16:46

thinking, something even his enemies

16:49

had begrudgingly admitted. In

16:51

his first comm to Harry Flynn dated April 9th

16:54

1985. He stated that

16:56

the INLA now has no cohesion,

16:58

no direction, little structure, few

17:01

quality personnel through ample IRA

17:03

rejects and other assorted undesirables.

17:08

In these comms and over 18 months

17:10

Steenson would gather other jailed INLA men

17:12

around him and persuade them to his

17:14

level of thinking. As Terry

17:16

Harkin stated, he was able to

17:19

influence you to do anything for him. But

17:21

he was completely ruthless, he would not

17:24

think twice about killing you if he thought it

17:26

necessary. Steenson

17:28

certainly gathered men around him who were all

17:30

as deeply disillusioned as he was. In

17:33

these comms he stated that he was

17:36

indignant about the celebratory nature of the

17:38

IRSP, declaring itself a Marxist party and

17:41

what effect did this remotely have on what he called

17:43

the war on the streets. He

17:46

further revealed a set of conditions to revive the

17:49

INLA or at best form a

17:51

wholly new body. These

17:53

conditions he stated were, satisfy

18:00

certain conditions. 2. They

18:03

must be above suspicion of

18:05

being touts or possible touts.

18:07

3. They must not be hoods, aka

18:10

criminals. 4. That

18:14

if they have recently resigned or been dismissed

18:16

from any organisation, they state the

18:18

reason so they could be checked out. He

18:22

goes on to further say that potential members

18:24

should undergo classes in counter interrogation and

18:27

they should fully learn the objectives of the movement.

18:30

Lastly, he revealed his perspective of the

18:32

INLA, their tactics and the mood within

18:35

the prison environment. He

18:37

stated that there was now growing animosity between the

18:40

men around him and the

18:42

men loyal to the INLA's Chief of Staff John

18:44

O'Reilly. This was evident

18:46

in Crumlin Jail. Steenson's

18:48

close affiliate, Jimmy Brown, had

18:50

his glasses smashed in his face and was beaten

18:53

up. In addition

18:55

to this, fighting was breaking out as well. With

18:58

all these dark indicators and disillusionment, Steenson

19:00

could recognise that it was time for

19:02

a change. For a breakaway

19:04

unit. A whole new body

19:06

for a revitalised goal and one that

19:08

wasn't packed to the rafters with criminals

19:11

that he claimed only paid lip service

19:13

to the revolutionary struggle. He

19:15

even in one calm turned his attention

19:18

to the former INLA commander Dominic McGlinchey,

19:20

stating, He's continuing to be a

19:22

divisive role in the blocks. He's

19:24

now thought of as a Walter Mitty and

19:27

only taken seriously by youths impressed with his

19:29

fairy tales. He

19:32

lamented the monastic atmosphere of the H block,

19:34

where men had lost touch with reality and

19:36

had no real or new concept for the

19:39

way to wage war. The

19:43

tactics of the INLA also received his scorn.

19:46

He saw the futility in some attacks, as

19:48

it was inconsequential and assassinations that

19:51

had proved disastrous to the INLA's

19:53

global image. They,

19:55

the INLA, permitted darkly and

19:58

murder old men and Sunday's school teachers,"

20:01

Steenson concluded. "'Our

20:03

intention is to suppress gang leaders, eradicate

20:06

the vile influence of their few

20:08

mouthpiece trendy lefties, and support a

20:10

nucleus of men, comprised of

20:12

men here in the prison and

20:15

others outside already.' He

20:17

finished with the words that can leave no one in

20:19

any doubt about his intentions. "'We want

20:21

to build, to construct lasting

20:23

structures, consensus and unity. That

20:27

is our goal, whatever happens. We

20:29

are going forward.'" From

20:34

1985 to the autumn of

20:36

1986, Steenson had become fully convinced

20:39

that the Belfast INLA, under

20:41

the command of John O'Reilly, was no longer

20:43

worth saving. The men around

20:45

Steenson were burning with resentment, and

20:47

through private messages, word had gotten out on

20:49

the street that there was now a new

20:51

paramilitary group, willing to start a

20:53

new struggle, and that was autonomous

20:56

from the INLA, the Provisional IRA

20:58

and the Official IRA. Then

21:02

in August 1986, after nearly 18 months

21:05

of messages back and forth between

21:07

Steenson and various disillusioned INLA men,

21:10

residents of West Belfast and RUC

21:12

began to see graffiti and slogans

21:14

on the street corners that said

21:16

IPLO. This

21:19

newly formed IPLO, which stood for

21:21

Irish People's Liberation Organisation, shows

21:24

that they were indeed a small number of

21:26

men loyal to Steenson. They

21:28

had the willingness and the capability to let

21:31

everyone know, as what one paper calls

21:33

them this band of mavericks were serious

21:35

about their aims of fighting security forces

21:37

and dealing with gangsterism. This

21:41

they displayed with terrifying speed on

21:43

November 12th by gunning down RUC

21:45

man Derek Patterson and

21:47

then gunning down the feared former henchman

21:50

of Dominic Mad Dog McGlinchie, Thomas

21:52

McCartan. McCartan's killing

21:54

was met with fury over at the

21:57

INLA GHQ and many believe that

21:59

this slaying was the first killing of the feud.

22:02

On December 21st, as McCartan was

22:05

shot dead in Andersontown, Jared Steenson and those

22:07

loyal to him who were held up in

22:09

prison on the word of the Supergrass were

22:11

released back on the streets of Belfast. According

22:15

to one source close to Steenson, known

22:17

as Geek, he claimed that Steenson only

22:19

had one thing in his mind, and

22:21

that it was time to clean house. They

22:24

needed to take out John O'Reilly. Now

22:28

with Steenson back on the streets and joining

22:30

ranks with the fledgling IPLO, the

22:32

dividing lines had been drawn in sand. On

22:36

one side was John O'Reilly and

22:38

the INLA GHQ, then

22:40

on the other was Steenson and his

22:42

IPLO, which included people like

22:44

Jimmy Brown and the feared

22:46

Martin, Ruck, O'Pray on the other.

22:50

But O'Reilly wasn't alone. Many INLA

22:52

men in Belfast were still loyal to him

22:55

and the legacy of Seamus Costello, including

22:58

the likes of Peter Stewart, Hugh

23:00

Torney and Thomas Ta Power. Power

23:04

was a deeply respected republican across all

23:06

areas, known as a highly political and

23:08

articulate thinker who was known to give

23:10

lectures on communism and the tenants of

23:12

Marxism while in the H-box. Power

23:17

wrote essays on the dire straits of

23:19

forceful republicanism, and

23:21

in them he lambasted the lads' culture

23:23

which Irish republicanism and egoism that went

23:26

hand in hand with criminality. He

23:29

further believed that criminality, inertia and

23:31

individualism were hurting both armed resistance

23:33

and the Irish working class. This

23:37

could be summed up in his famous quote, We

23:40

must be vigilant that we don't sink

23:42

into the morass of sectarianism, mixing, pettiness,

23:44

etc. We must not

23:46

get involved in unprincipled slinging matches,

23:49

into positions that are sectarian, anti-revolutionary,

23:51

morally damaging, that give sucker to

23:53

the enemy and that confuse and

23:56

divide the working class. In

24:00

this unfortunate twist of fate, power shares

24:02

the same ideals and recognised the same

24:04

problems that Steinson did. Yet

24:07

both men stood in opposite and soon to

24:09

be warring camps. In

24:12

addition to this, O'Reilly still had many INLA

24:15

men who were loyal to him because they

24:17

believed that this IPLO was just a masquerade

24:19

of men who originally wanted to smash the

24:21

INLA and join the Provisionals. We'll

24:25

touch more on this later. In

24:27

January 1987, John O'Reilly saw

24:30

that he was now in a precarious position and

24:32

was in the barrel sites of the IPLO. With

24:37

the outbreak of violence and a knife's edge,

24:39

there was hope in Belfast that a feud

24:41

could be avoided through the mediations of Father

24:43

Des Wilson at Clunard Monastery. A

24:46

meeting was arranged for the Chiefs of

24:48

the INLA and the IPLO to meet

24:50

and discuss their aims, ways to avoid

24:53

violence, discuss rackets and the welfare of

24:55

parliamentary prisoner's families. This

24:57

was to take place on January 27 at

25:00

the Rossnerie Hotel in Drada in the Irish County

25:02

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25:05

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25:08

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25:10

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25:12

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On. January Twenty Seventh or Riley Power

27:21

Suit Horny and Peter Stewart arrived at

27:23

the Russian or Hotel and receivers in

27:25

the lobby. The

27:27

mood was fairly cordial as the men sat on

27:29

a biscuit to drink tea. But.

27:32

There were ominous signs that something was amiss.

27:35

Father. Does Wilson hadn't arrived and when

27:37

John Reilly tried to call but since office.

27:39

He was told by the receptionist that he was running late.

27:43

John. Sat back down, According

27:45

to Peter Sewers, he was nervous. Yet.

27:48

All on the surface still seems normal. It

27:51

within Stewart looks to the outside and saw two

27:53

men in the doorway of the hotel. At.

27:56

First, nothing seem to miss. But.

27:58

then he noticed that the men were boat bearded and there

28:00

was a sticky residue around their cheeks. The

28:03

beards were glued on. The

28:06

sitting men jumped up and Stewart shouted at the

28:08

men and approached them in the doorway. Then,

28:11

with what he called almost military skill,

28:14

the two bearded men moved through the

28:16

door, drew their guns and shots erupted

28:18

throughout the hotel lobby. Stewart

28:22

took three shots to the stomach and collapsed, while

28:24

O'Reilly took a bullet in the centre of his back. One

28:27

of the gunmen then stood over him and shot

28:29

him three more times execution style. Power

28:32

was also gunned down, but Hugh Torney survived by

28:34

the skin of his teeth, as

28:37

he fled from the gunmen receiving one bullet in

28:39

his hand. The

28:42

gunmen then fled the hotel, leaving Power and

28:44

O'Reilly dead in the lobby, surrounded by gun

28:47

smoke and screaming witnesses. The

28:49

feud was now well and truly on. In

28:52

the immediate aftermath of this attack, many

28:55

INLA and IPLO men left their homes

28:57

for safe houses. Shots

28:59

began to ring out across West Belfast

29:01

as homes were firebombed and people began

29:03

to avoid Republican drinking gloobs. Another

29:08

key highlight of this feud that should be taken

29:10

into consideration is the proximity of the rivals. These

29:13

men were literally living cheek by jowl,

29:16

right next to each other. This feud

29:18

shows how revenge and anger can spread

29:20

quickly amongst packed and deeply impoverished, unurbanised

29:23

areas. The

29:25

IPLO quickly moved across West Belfast, taking

29:28

seven INLA men hostage and keeping them

29:30

in safe houses. The

29:32

Catholic Church and Des Wilson were outraged that

29:34

one of the parties had acted in bad

29:37

faith, especially after a member of

29:39

the clergy was acting in the sanctified role of

29:41

peacemaker. The

29:45

INLA reacted with outrage and condemned

29:47

these gangsters, whom they claimed were

29:49

agents of the British Secret

29:51

Service. The public reaction to Powers' death revealed

29:53

just how popular a figure he was. At

29:57

his funeral, thousands came out in

29:59

support of what they called one of the

30:02

last true revolutionaries, and many

30:04

within the IPLO were called traitors and

30:06

judas. Shortly

30:08

after this funeral, the seven INLA men

30:10

who were taken hostage were suddenly released,

30:12

much to the bewilderment of some IPLO

30:14

men. There

30:17

have been some unverified claims that Steenson was

30:19

dismayed by the death of power and that

30:21

it was never intended. But

30:23

this we can never truly know. What we

30:26

do know is that the INLA men weren't sitting idle

30:28

in their grief and anger, they were

30:30

planning a retaliation. Two

30:33

targets were in their sights. The first,

30:35

some have said, was unrelated to the feud

30:37

and that was the INLA using this opportunity

30:39

to settle old scores. The

30:42

second target was the INLA simply enacting tit

30:44

for tat. On February

30:46

1st, in Muirhevnamur, in a home located

30:49

in Dundalk, Mary McGlinchie,

30:51

the wife of incarcerated Dominic Mad Dog

30:54

McGlinchie, was bathing her two sons. She

30:58

was readying them for bed when downstairs

31:00

her front door burst open and two

31:02

masked shooters stormed upstairs. The

31:06

gunman opened fire, killing Mary with a headshot.

31:08

She fell headfirst into the bath and her

31:11

sons ran naked, screaming from the house. This

31:15

killing caused a revulsion to outsiders, but

31:18

for those within INLA circles, very

31:20

few shed tears. Mary

31:23

McGlinchie had allegedly, in the past,

31:25

snared INLA men to their deaths.

31:28

This meant that she would have lured them to meetings where

31:30

they would be executed. Many

31:32

in policing and INLA circles claimed that

31:34

this killing was in retribution for Mary's

31:36

involvement in the deaths of Eric Dale

31:38

and Ayman McMahon. The

31:42

next target for the INLA was not in West

31:44

Belfast but in the Irish county of Manahan. On

31:48

February 6th, Tony McCluskey was targeted.

31:51

The INLA believed that McCluskey was behind

31:53

the planning and killings of O'Reilly and Power

31:55

at Rastner E. And

31:57

on this night they are out for revenge. Tony

32:01

was in his home with his wife Patricia and

32:03

two neighbours when three masked gun men burst into

32:05

his home. What

32:07

took place next shows the level of violence

32:09

and how bitter and hateful this feud was.

32:12

Tony was bound to a chair and violently

32:15

interrogated, whilst the others were bound and

32:17

forced to sit on the ground. Tony

32:21

was then dragged out of the house. His

32:24

last words while smiling to his wife were, Don't

32:27

worry, be back by three o'clock, but

32:29

he would not be coming home. He

32:31

was taken away and sadistically tortured. He

32:36

was viciously beaten, burned, he

32:38

had an appendage removed, he had

32:41

one or both of his ears removed before he

32:43

was executed. His

32:45

death caused a revulsion and horror, leading

32:48

Cardinal Fiek to cry out at McCluskey's

32:51

funeral in the name of God, stop.

32:55

But in February 1987 there was no stopping,

32:58

and in that dark winter, cars of

33:00

INLA men and IPLO men went out

33:03

into the night searching for one another.

33:06

The next target for Steinson's men was

33:08

the INLA operative who had a fearsome

33:10

reputation as a hard man and a

33:13

seasoned Republican, Emmanuel Gargan.

33:17

The IPLO tried to kill Emmanuel. As

33:20

he was standing with John O'Reilly's brother Michael at

33:22

a taxi booth, a gunman opened

33:24

fire on the men. Michael

33:26

was unscathed, but Gargan was hit in

33:28

the legs and torso. He survived

33:30

his wounds, discharged himself from Victoria

33:33

Hospital, and as soon as he was able

33:35

he went straight back to gunning for the IPLO. This

33:37

earned him respect from both the INLA and

33:40

his enemies. Yet

33:42

the IPLO did not abandon their goal of taking him

33:44

out. On the 17th of February,

33:46

the IPLO, after failing to

33:48

kill Gargan, struck again. This

33:51

time their target was INLA man Michael

33:53

Kearney. Kearney, from Balamurphy,

33:55

had armed himself after learning that

33:57

IPLO men in the Balamurphy area

33:59

were murdered. residing in a safe house and

34:01

that Steenson was with them. So

34:04

Kearney, with several others, armed themselves and

34:06

travelled to the safe house where these

34:08

IPLO and Steenson were allegedly holed up.

34:11

This would be one instance where the

34:13

Predator would become the prey. The IPLO

34:16

caught wind of Kearney's plan and were waiting

34:18

in ambush. As

34:20

the men walked across Spring Hill Gardens, the

34:23

IPLO men leapt out and both groups opened

34:26

fire on each other and exchanged rounds.

34:30

In this hail of gunfire, Kearney was struck down and

34:32

killed. The IPLO boasted to

34:34

the media that they had outgunned and outfought

34:36

the INLA on this night. So

34:39

it's the middle of February and the feud was building

34:42

momentum, yet many were wondering

34:44

why was this happening? Many

34:47

in nationalist areas felt like this was

34:49

right under the surveillance and noses of

34:51

RUC and security forces, and

34:53

yet there was hardly any police presence. There

34:57

was even although unverifiable rumours

34:59

that ambulances and police were intentionally

35:01

taking several hours to respond to

35:03

these crimes. In

35:06

addition to this, IRSP chairman Terry Harkin

35:08

made a plea to the provisional IRA

35:11

to intervene and crush

35:13

the IPLO. Yes,

35:15

as was often the case, the

35:17

provisional IRA held their water and kept

35:20

their distance, watching and waiting. And

35:24

the factions continued trying to kill one another.

35:30

Kevin Bapp McQuillan narrowly survived an assassination

35:32

attempt at his home in Springfield Park

35:34

on the 10th of March. When

35:37

according to him, Martin Ruck O'Pray

35:39

and Steenson burst into his

35:42

home and O'Pray shouted all right Bapp

35:44

before unleashing a barrage of bullets upon him and his

35:46

brother who was with him at the time. Once

35:50

again, this attack took place under the nose of

35:53

the security forces and many in the

35:55

nationalist community cried out for intervention. At

35:59

the ear move from Windsor, into spring, the INLA

36:01

struck again. On March

36:03

7th, the body of Thomas Maguire was

36:05

found bound and shot on the roadside,

36:07

near Balanis in Cautier-Mappes. According

36:10

to multiple sources, Maguire had been killed

36:12

for being a staunch supporter of the

36:14

disbandment of the INLA, and

36:16

being a close friend of high-ranking IPLO

36:18

commander, Jamie Brown. It

36:21

seemed now that after being taken by surprise by

36:24

the IPLO at the start, the

36:26

INLA was recovering from its shock at Rossnary,

36:28

gathering its bearings and dealing with

36:31

threats both external and internal. This

36:34

was seen on the 14th of February when

36:37

INLA man Fergus Conlan's body was found in

36:39

Clontegora, with gunshot wounds to the head. There

36:43

were rumours that Conlan was killed

36:45

by INLA internal security for assisting

36:47

security services in the discovery of

36:49

Arles Dumps. Some

36:52

of these accusations we can never truly verify,

36:54

but like within the provisional IRA,

36:57

deadly suspicion was rife in both

36:59

INLA and IPLO bodies. By

37:03

now it seems that the INLA was gaining the upper

37:05

hand. St Patrick's

37:07

Day was approaching, and West Belfast

37:09

was growing weary of these killings, so

37:11

mediations were called between the two warring sides.

37:15

With both groups mourning their dead comrades

37:17

and public outcry growing louder, a deal

37:19

was announced that on the 13th of

37:21

March, when the clock struck midnight, a

37:24

ceasefire between the IPLO and the INLA would

37:26

come into effect. Yet

37:29

for the INLA, in the

37:31

dark world of violent parameterism in

37:33

which every weakness is exploited, they

37:36

were going to use this moment to strike back. If

37:39

the IPLO wouldn't respect the first attempt

37:41

at ceasefire, then the INLA

37:43

had no intention of respecting this one. They

37:48

were going to strike in the same way as

37:50

they had been struck against at Rossnary, under the

37:52

masquerade of the ceasefire, and their

37:55

target was the one man they believed started

37:57

this bloody episode, Jared Steenson.

38:00

On that first day of

38:02

the supposed ceasefire, March 14th,

38:04

Jared Steenson and Anthony Boote-McCarthy

38:07

took the moment to celebrate and went out

38:09

day-drinking in the Washington bar. The

38:13

rest of this account is from various sources, some

38:16

of which contradict each other. It would

38:18

appear that Steenson and McCarthy heard that something

38:20

was going on at West Belfast. Steenson

38:23

was told that INLA gunmen had shown up

38:25

at Divas Flats and performed an arms display

38:28

or a show of force as an

38:30

act of defiance against the ceasefire. INLA

38:33

men had also burned down a taxi booth in

38:36

Spring Hill. The

38:38

men jumped in a car and sped towards Spring Hill. They

38:41

were armed and prepared for a confrontation. They

38:44

arrived shortly after midnight, where they

38:46

were met by multiple masked gunmen. It

38:49

was an ambush. We

38:52

can never truly know what was going through Steenson's head

38:54

at that moment, but a man that

38:56

was so skilled in the art of ambush and

38:58

a life steeped in political violence, everything

39:01

must have become clear in a nanosecond. For

39:04

according to one witness, Steenson screamed,

39:07

were hooked. Then across

39:09

Spring Hill, a volley of gunfire went through

39:11

the night and Jared Steenson, the

39:13

man who had killed the official IRA commander Billy Macmillan

39:15

at the age of 16, a man

39:18

whose life had been immersed in forceful

39:20

republicanism, was dead, alongside

39:22

his companion McCarthy. The

39:25

ceasefire was hardly a day old. Two

39:29

days later, Steenson was buried on St Patrick's Day.

39:32

Thousands turned out for the funeral with

39:34

many eulogising the man. Some

39:37

were saying that he was the closest thing to Michael Collins

39:39

that ever was and referred to him

39:41

as the master tactician. Others,

39:44

and many of the families of his

39:46

victims, called him a remorseless psychopath. Paddus

39:50

Funeral was a woman who was rumoured to be

39:52

the widow of Billy Macmillan, and

39:54

she was present when Steenson assassinated

39:56

her husband. Apparently,

39:59

she watched a his funeral cartage passed

40:01

by and then went to a

40:03

local social club and ordered a large bottle of

40:05

champagne. The

40:08

immediate reaction to the death of Steenson

40:10

from the INLA was one of complete

40:12

and unashamed jubilation. According

40:14

to one INLA man, he received a

40:16

phone call from one of the assassins

40:18

who screamed down the phone, we nailed

40:20

him, I emptied a full magazine into

40:22

him. To

40:25

make sure of the fact, the INLA

40:27

GHQ contacted the Royal Victoria Hospital and

40:29

had the details confirmed. However,

40:33

the reaction of the IPLO was

40:35

one of complete fury and

40:37

a swift demand for retribution. And

40:42

then only five days after Steenson's

40:44

funeral, Emmanuel Gargan, the INLA hardman

40:47

who had survived two previous assassination

40:49

attempts, was gunned down. Gargan

40:52

was in crutches and drinking in the Hatfield bar

40:55

when Martin Rucko Prey burst in

40:57

and shot him down. The killing

40:59

of Gargan caused outrage amongst the community

41:02

and this could be seen with derogatory

41:04

graffiti calling the IPLO traitors and scum.

41:08

But the IPLO were indifferent and

41:10

more importantly, they weren't finished. Their

41:14

next victim was INLA man Kevin Duffy. Duffy

41:16

had been ambushed at night whilst on his way home

41:18

from an IPLO hit team and taken

41:20

to the grounds of St Bridget's nursery where

41:23

he was brutally executed. March

41:27

was now coming to an end and

41:29

there was a lingering sense of pointlessness to

41:31

these killings. Both

41:33

organisations had suffered a loss of

41:36

irreplaceable manpower, communities were scared,

41:38

tires and mourning their dead and

41:41

according to Jimmy Brown, there was a sense

41:43

of a draw or a stalemate. Both

41:47

organisations were exhausted and the killings had

41:49

left them extremely weak, with the loss

41:52

of power, Steenson, Gargan, Kearney and many

41:54

more. And for what? So

41:58

In April a conference was held in Port-Au-Nam. Galway,

42:00

in which both the I L A

42:02

and the Ip Yellow agreed to complete

42:05

an enduring cessation of hostilities. In

42:08

addition to this, many ip yellow

42:10

men left the organization and joins

42:12

the Provisional Ira. Which. Caused

42:14

extreme resentment and legitimize the original accusations

42:16

of the I in the late. However,

42:20

Both agreed it was trying to stop

42:22

and at certain fundamentals would remain. Both.

42:26

The I lay on the Ip yellow would

42:28

remain under to would have to operate separately

42:31

yet in cohesion if need be. Lastly,

42:33

they would know turn their attention to

42:36

the security forces and the loyalists. And

42:40

so the feud was over, with twelve

42:43

dead and dozens injured. But.

42:45

Many have been filled with bitterness since

42:47

this feud. Some. Feals Neither party

42:49

benefit is. When.

42:51

Like or your Feuds between the finally

42:54

unofficial Ira which were grounded in a

42:56

complete divergence, a strategy and overall goal.

42:59

This. Sued had no real a major divergence.

43:02

And some have bitterly attributed defaults to

43:04

the ego of the men involved. Yet

43:07

the fact remains the two groups of men

43:10

to all had the same goal, took

43:12

no quarter and shows no mercy to

43:14

one another. Many.

43:16

Academics such as Doctor Eric A Van on.

43:19

Have attributed fraternal or intergroup

43:21

violence to fighting over political

43:23

resources such as arms, votes,

43:25

or regional supremacy. Or

43:28

that these motivations are strategically rational

43:30

when conceptualized and a greater picture.

43:34

However, it the author of this episode

43:36

feels that there's been one prevailing factor

43:38

that has often been overlooked. One.

43:40

That is not based on personality. It

43:44

is completely emotional. A. Rational,

43:46

enduring, and primal. And

43:49

daddies the need for revenge. Often

43:51

in these deadly feuds, the Dead Man

43:53

has friends and comrades who grieve. And.

43:57

are in the bitter minds to avenge their fault

44:00

and regardless of whether it proves detrimental to the

44:02

overall goal or not. And

44:05

that brings us to a question I've said a few times in this

44:07

episode. Who benefited from this

44:09

feud? The

44:12

author believes that neither of the parties benefited,

44:14

they've lost considerable manpower, and

44:17

in these men they lost experience which could never

44:19

be replaced. Though

44:22

after asking a number of people this question,

44:24

there was a fairly resounding commonality in the

44:26

answer. And that was, the

44:29

only beneficiary in this feud was

44:31

the security services. According

44:33

to many families of the fallen, the

44:35

RUC and British Army completely sat back

44:37

and watched as these power militaries tore

44:39

one another to pieces. As

44:42

the ancient strategist Sun Tzu once said,

44:45

never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.

44:49

It could also be argued that the real winner

44:52

in this feud was the provisional IRA. Since

44:55

the inception of the INLA and the IPLO,

44:57

the provisional had watched from a distance both

45:00

power militaries slaughter one another and at this

45:02

point of political trajectory with Sinn Féin leaning

45:04

towards the left, the provisional

45:06

were quite happy to see the IRSP

45:08

lose its raison d'etatre and the

45:10

INLA lose its men. In

45:13

the wake of the feud, the provisional

45:15

IRA absorbed dozens of highly experienced IPLO

45:17

operatives and the weaponry they possessed. Yet

45:22

the INLA and IPLO remained, but

45:26

the provisional IRA continued to wait. As

45:29

one UDA commander warned, one journalist, Listen,

45:33

just you wait, it's only a matter of time before

45:35

the big tiger goes for the wee cats fighting in

45:37

the alley. And

45:40

this time would come five years later in what

45:42

has become known as the Night of the Long

45:44

Knives. But

45:48

if there was a loser, it can

45:50

be articulated best in the words of

45:52

one Peter Urban of the International Republican

45:54

Socialist Network, who said, It

45:56

was neither the IPLO nor the INLA who

45:58

lost that feud. Both.

46:01

Organizations continue for years afterwards.

46:04

He. Was the Irish Working class that

46:06

ultimately lost. A no one

46:08

deserves to wear.moniker Republican Socialist to put

46:10

at risk the face of they're working

46:13

class. This.

46:17

Brings us to the end of this episode. We.

46:19

Witnessed the deadly nature of paramilitary

46:21

life. It's brutality. It's. Mercilessness.

46:23

It's treachery. Get. There

46:25

is a startling and terrifying irony for the fuse

46:28

that withered the I in L A and the

46:30

Ip yellow. For.

46:32

These men ascribes themselves as

46:34

revolutionaries. Men who wants to

46:37

face what they saw as the juggernaut of

46:39

oppression. Probably. Filled with notions

46:41

of martyrdom and romance. Quoting.

46:44

The same works and words of those

46:46

walked the streets of St. Petersburg, Cuba

46:48

and Mozambique. And

46:51

yet in the case of Steam Son

46:53

or Riley Power and even those who

46:55

sell before in earlier feuds such as

46:57

same as Costello Danny Doctrine Que Ferguson.

47:00

And those who have fallen later feuds. this is

47:02

Sammy Ward Mark know prey on Jimmy Brown. None.

47:04

Of them would find the romantic death

47:07

on a Greenfield at the hands of

47:09

an impersonal foot soldier. Have some distant

47:11

Emperor. Know. They.

47:14

Died brutal and crude debts.

47:16

At the hands of the men, they had played in

47:18

the playground with. Drank. In bars with.

47:21

At. The hands of men. They spent years in

47:23

cages with. These.

47:26

Men we see here today died at the hands

47:28

of men they knew well. And

47:31

that is and must remain so. A

47:33

stark warning. For. Younger generations that

47:35

look upon what starry eyes at the

47:37

lives of former paramilitary men. Young.

47:40

People today should not be seduced. By.

47:42

While Thomas Power called the

47:44

pervading lad culture of paramilitary

47:46

life. To

47:48

be seemed by friends feared by

47:50

rivals at admired by local girls.

47:55

A life of a paramilitary man and

47:57

the Troubles was as Hobbes once described

47:59

short. Brutus. A nasty. These.

48:02

Men died violent deaths, And

48:05

the lives they lead is etched on their faces.

48:08

And the epitaph of their graves. Yet

48:11

these images of these young, fallen

48:13

paramilitary men show that death in

48:15

paramilitary life will not be steeped

48:17

in romance or martyrdom when it

48:19

comes. It

48:22

will in all probability come not from

48:24

the hands of your declared enemy, but

48:26

will come from the hands of your

48:28

comrades. And ah, if he once considered

48:30

friend. That

48:36

are for me. Thanks and see

48:38

next time. This

48:59

episode was written by John Livingston. Also.

49:01

Known as the Troubles Archive over an Instagram.

49:05

I've. Always wanted to get John's voice on this podcast

49:07

so I asked him his thoughts about writing this episode

49:09

and I'm gonna write excerpted that now. Hello!

49:12

This is Johnny, the author of it's a

49:14

Bizarre Cause A among the author of this

49:17

episode. I did

49:19

the sub so took about six

49:21

months to write, preparation, research and

49:23

to and interviews. Ah I personally

49:25

I'm it's me. It's my favorite

49:28

alum one that I'm most proud of because I feel

49:30

it's the one that is. The. Most

49:32

on the researched something.is in

49:35

Culver the North. Factionalism within

49:37

republicanism apologies for the Ism

49:39

sister, but it is something

49:42

that. Views and letting these

49:44

seven senior below and the I know like

49:46

is something that I think is massively on

49:48

the stories. Because. It shows the.

49:51

Splinter. Movements within. Fossil

49:54

Republicanism. Those. who is

49:56

he had to an absolutist marxist

49:58

leninist be of all those who

50:01

possibly wanted to join the IRA and

50:04

then descended into criminality. It portrays

50:06

everything clearly and it was one that was

50:09

really fascinating to do and I loved every

50:11

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50:13

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