We’re joined by Montana based singer-songwriter Izaak Opatz. We discuss our mutual desire to be more like Edward Abbey, his time on a trail crew in Glacier National Park, and balancing his work as a musician with his call to journalistic pursuits.

Izaak’s new album Extra Medium is available now. Head to his website https://www.izaakopatz.com to grab a copy,find a tour date near you, and pick up some sweet hand-crafted leather goods.