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Like a animal. Bad as go
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out without the glade. Kind
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of shouldn't texture a certain extent. Pretty
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certain key to it. And
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then there's the pain
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barry. I think that
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in just. Take on
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top back to have a very
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very frosting on top and then
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the mix with the fundamental the
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Ip everything it is a very
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good think a from the other
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you like Yeah what it it
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It's been a longstanding tradition that
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it you can only really getting
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Thunder Bay. Calea
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a felon. That. Was
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a collection of current and former Thunder
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Bay residents describing a Persian which is
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a big treat that has become synonymous
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with Thunder Bay. Oh. I
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love person for this is this is
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exciting I do as well. but the
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Persian ban. Is. Not for Iran. Nor.
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Is it a Persian delicacy? And it actually
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has nothing to do with Persian people? Oh.
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Okay, that's weird. It is
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We heard. The person Buns claim to fame
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is you can really only find them and Thunder
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Bay so you know had to get to the
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bottom of this because I was like what. Wired
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these called this and I don't understand.
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Okay, So. How did it
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ping? frosted cinnamon? Buns like baked
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goods. get the name person.
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I'm confused. So. Other people
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I talked to from Thunder Bay also had no
2:24
idea so I made some calls. Hi
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you've reached the thunder. Been a see it
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would have. Please wait a moment. Out.
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Of a movie at Michael's because. Hey Michael, it's
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Leah. I love a local museum.
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Love! I'm always my first stop when I
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can't think of this. Stuff Out! So
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I spoke to Michael Design he is
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one of the curators at the center
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being museum and he explained how person's
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got their name. For. Basic it
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over a whoop it. Okay, what
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are the general story that you
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know? I've been passed down through
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the decades as that goes dead.
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Yeah, in Nineteen Forty use our
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default started without valid speak only
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and Port Arthur. And so when
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American General Man John Joseph Passing
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or P R S H I
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N G was visiting our Port
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Arthur from a naval base in
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the Loop and he was sort
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of shopping or something and he
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was wandering. Around looking for something
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to get he wandered into arts
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Bakery sample of an Android one
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of the place for use that
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that art had invented and party
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ends badly. hit it off the
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maybe you know they they had
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a great conversation I was the
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all the great time was had
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by all and there Afterwards Bennett
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decided to name of the pastry
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after the General except that pushing
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became Persian. And. That
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was pretty much that. Okay,
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so the sender by a person
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with me after an American General.
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That's like the last thing that
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I would have expected. So who
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was this? General? John Joseph Pershing.
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Okay, so Gen. John Joseph Pershing
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sounds like the beginning of a
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campfire. Songs about who A? but
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anyway isn't as fun. Joseph Pursing
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was a very decorated Generals and
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commanded many wars. Saddles,
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And skirmishes for the U S. His
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career is a bit of a mixed
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bag, and by mixed bag I mean
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full of many groups of people trying
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to free themselves from the bags that
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we know as American imperialism. He He
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started off with missions to decimate the
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Psu, oh and most famously against Geronimo
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and the Apache people. He also. Was
4:41
part of that? While I. I
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don't love that. Know and and if
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you don't know, Drama was there famous
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Apache leader who fought against the U
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S many times and was just generally.
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Pretty. Pretty cool. He. Is pretty
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cool. Yes. And so after the General
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worked on all of that, he headed
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to Cuba to fight in the Spanish.
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American War. And that was
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the war where America was trying to
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subvert Spain's colonial rule over the Caribbean
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so that they could rule over the
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Caribbean. and the U S. one. Oh.
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Great! Yeah, it. It wasn't.
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Great Mississippi the head then person
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per seeing now see I understand
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how a person happened since
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I'm hurting. Went to the Philippines
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where the Americans tried to suppress
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the morrow tribes, they were trying
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to retain their autonomy and then
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he went to Mexico with
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twelve thousand soldiers in pursuit of
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Poncho Via who was a revolutionary.
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And a freedom fighter then after that.
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Okay, okay okay so there's there's so
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there's more. Great Grace. Yeah and then
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after that he did. The thing that
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I think got a desert in Thunder
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Bay is named after him. I. Am
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so confused how we got here. What was that?
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Okay, so in Nineteen Seventeen, he
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became the Commander of the American
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Expeditionary. Or says in the Battle
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Against Germany and World War One And
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as you know, the Us along with
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Canada and other allies one that war.
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right? So now as legend
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states it, Pershing met the original
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baker of the person art ban
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it in the nineteen forties, which
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meant that Pershing at that time
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was in his eighties. By
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that point, General Pershing had become
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a Pulitzer prize winning author for
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his memoirs called. My experiences
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in. The World War. Okay,
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so. It seems that he was
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a bit of a military superstar. He
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was. And then of course we're war.
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Two broke out in Nineteen Thirty Nine,
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essentially against the same enemy Germany and
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so answer this charismatic same as general
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in the site of the days of
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patriotism and of course fear over being
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involved in another world war and baker
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art Ban it is trying out some
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recipes. hits it off with this famous
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General and thinks. That. Guy
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I'm naming this delicious thing. After
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that guy. Like
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I guess that makes sense for
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the time periods. Okay and then
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the name Pershing Bar and
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just got shortened or evolved into
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the person. Yeah, I think
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that's I haven't assistance as shorthand but
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the pastry didn't unpopular right away. Years
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Michael again. And com or
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public sector for several decades
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after that are and our
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someone impose your. Purchase
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bad bet it's patriot early sixties and
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it was mario new change that basically
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spite it forward. Why does he received
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about other bob and that sort of
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how it eventually took off it became
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an iconic been to repay the per
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se. Eventually opened a Person That bakery
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of I trade which was devoted to
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push. The
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bakery was called. The person man yeah
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it's still call that and they have to
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in town actually. So. There's
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this little cafe that
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looks. It's. Just. A
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time capsule ago. It's like it from. The
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nineteen forties. And the one I
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used to go to be over by the
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husky and over near like a university. So.
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We. Would go to the person and
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me and my dad actually would take like a
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lunch break as usual and have a persian and
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a coffee and then. I go back to
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high school or whatever I was doing at the time. So
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that's keep Parker and Erica gel or
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and there explaining their experiences at the
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person mans. He told me he got
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introduced to them when he was growing
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up because the Persian man would come
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into schools. And. So they have a
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person day and so you'd be a dollar
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and you get to Persian like there should
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be some seats and so the whole school
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and pursue the show up in the whole
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school smells like person. So that was kinda
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like my first. Like. Memory
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is happy Dance School and the
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being a big big deal person
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day would take on a whole
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different meaning if people weren't from.
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Sunder Bay is totally. I was.
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I was truly curious if that was the
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reason though, that we. Don't see persons
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in other parts of Canada. I
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set it up after a few years.
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Get out of sight, you know, lad?
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I. Get a lot of weird looks and
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sometimes I'm the fight idol. I
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don't think they can separate. Person.
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The ethnicity from person but
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desert saw as as like
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you know i'm just i'm
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I'm gonna stop us find
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offensive to see boss me.
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Yeah, I mean, I get that. That makes
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sense. It totally makes sense. But here's
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the thing, the more I looked into
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it, I realize there are other places
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selling Persians but does does not in
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Canada. strangely as an a bakery in
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Indiana that makes a person but it
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doesn't have the same time icing. You
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can also buy Persian buns and other
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places in the states namely Walmart weirdly
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on littered and they have white icing
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on them which I think cancels them.
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Out from being a true, you know,
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quote unquote person. So. The
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Pinkberry I sing with the cinnamon
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buns/don't at like interior of that's
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truly a Thunder. Bay Invention it
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is. It lives there and it says there
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and the people are passionate about it. I
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mean, it's such a thing there. I was
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actually very curious if there was an exhibit
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dedicated to the person. In the center of a
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museum. Girl's
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gotta. Admit
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the idea of are as with Jeopardy. While
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you know maybe they can do a touring
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exhibitions and comes Montreal. or maybe I ought
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to have. Maybe I'll see if the been
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lives up to the other men it's named
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after. I agree and. Then hit Toronto on
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the way back. I would be very into
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this. Very a senior leaves me up with
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