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S6: Crash Course on The Persian

Released Thursday, 25th April 2024
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S6: Crash Course on The Persian

S6: Crash Course on The Persian

Thursday, 25th April 2024
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Like a animal. Bad as go

1:00

out without the glade. Kind

1:02

of shouldn't texture a certain extent. Pretty

1:05

certain key to it. And

1:07

then there's the pain

1:09

barry. I think that

1:11

in just. Take on

1:13

top back to have a very

1:15

very frosting on top and then

1:17

the mix with the fundamental the

1:19

Ip everything it is a very

1:21

good think a from the other

1:23

you like Yeah what it it

1:26

It's been a longstanding tradition that

1:28

it you can only really getting

1:30

Thunder Bay. Calea

1:34

a felon. That. Was

1:36

a collection of current and former Thunder

1:38

Bay residents describing a Persian which is

1:40

a big treat that has become synonymous

1:43

with Thunder Bay. Oh. I

1:45

love person for this is this is

1:47

exciting I do as well. but the

1:49

Persian ban. Is. Not for Iran. Nor.

1:52

Is it a Persian delicacy? And it actually

1:54

has nothing to do with Persian people? Oh.

1:57

Okay, that's weird. It is

1:59

We heard. The person Buns claim to fame

2:01

is you can really only find them and Thunder

2:03

Bay so you know had to get to the

2:05

bottom of this because I was like what. Wired

2:07

these called this and I don't understand.

2:13

Okay, So. How did it

2:15

ping? frosted cinnamon? Buns like baked

2:17

goods. get the name person.

2:19

I'm confused. So. Other people

2:21

I talked to from Thunder Bay also had no

2:24

idea so I made some calls. Hi

2:30

you've reached the thunder. Been a see it

2:32

would have. Please wait a moment. Out.

2:39

Of a movie at Michael's because. Hey Michael, it's

2:41

Leah. I love a local museum.

2:43

Love! I'm always my first stop when I

2:45

can't think of this. Stuff Out! So

2:47

I spoke to Michael Design he is

2:49

one of the curators at the center

2:51

being museum and he explained how person's

2:54

got their name. For. Basic it

2:56

over a whoop it. Okay, what

2:58

are the general story that you

3:00

know? I've been passed down through

3:02

the decades as that goes dead.

3:05

Yeah, in Nineteen Forty use our

3:07

default started without valid speak only

3:09

and Port Arthur. And so when

3:11

American General Man John Joseph Passing

3:13

or P R S H I

3:15

N G was visiting our Port

3:18

Arthur from a naval base in

3:20

the Loop and he was sort

3:22

of shopping or something and he

3:24

was wandering. Around looking for something

3:26

to get he wandered into arts

3:29

Bakery sample of an Android one

3:31

of the place for use that

3:33

that art had invented and party

3:35

ends badly. hit it off the

3:37

maybe you know they they had

3:40

a great conversation I was the

3:42

all the great time was had

3:44

by all and there Afterwards Bennett

3:46

decided to name of the pastry

3:48

after the General except that pushing

3:50

became Persian. And. That

3:53

was pretty much that. Okay,

3:57

so the sender by a person

3:59

with me after an American General.

4:01

That's like the last thing that

4:03

I would have expected. So who

4:05

was this? General? John Joseph Pershing.

4:08

Okay, so Gen. John Joseph Pershing

4:10

sounds like the beginning of a

4:12

campfire. Songs about who A? but

4:14

anyway isn't as fun. Joseph Pursing

4:16

was a very decorated Generals and

4:18

commanded many wars. Saddles,

4:20

And skirmishes for the U S. His

4:23

career is a bit of a mixed

4:25

bag, and by mixed bag I mean

4:27

full of many groups of people trying

4:29

to free themselves from the bags that

4:31

we know as American imperialism. He He

4:34

started off with missions to decimate the

4:36

Psu, oh and most famously against Geronimo

4:38

and the Apache people. He also. Was

4:41

part of that? While I. I

4:44

don't love that. Know and and if

4:46

you don't know, Drama was there famous

4:48

Apache leader who fought against the U

4:51

S many times and was just generally.

4:53

Pretty. Pretty cool. He. Is pretty

4:55

cool. Yes. And so after the General

4:58

worked on all of that, he headed

5:00

to Cuba to fight in the Spanish.

5:02

American War. And that was

5:04

the war where America was trying to

5:06

subvert Spain's colonial rule over the Caribbean

5:09

so that they could rule over the

5:11

Caribbean. and the U S. one. Oh.

5:13

Great! Yeah, it. It wasn't.

5:16

Great Mississippi the head then person

5:18

per seeing now see I understand

5:20

how a person happened since

5:22

I'm hurting. Went to the Philippines

5:25

where the Americans tried to suppress

5:27

the morrow tribes, they were trying

5:30

to retain their autonomy and then

5:32

he went to Mexico with

5:34

twelve thousand soldiers in pursuit of

5:36

Poncho Via who was a revolutionary.

5:39

And a freedom fighter then after that.

5:41

Okay, okay okay so there's there's so

5:43

there's more. Great Grace. Yeah and then

5:45

after that he did. The thing that

5:47

I think got a desert in Thunder

5:49

Bay is named after him. I. Am

5:52

so confused how we got here. What was that?

5:54

Okay, so in Nineteen Seventeen, he

5:57

became the Commander of the American

5:59

Expeditionary. Or says in the Battle

6:01

Against Germany and World War One And

6:03

as you know, the Us along with

6:06

Canada and other allies one that war.

6:08

right? So now as legend

6:10

states it, Pershing met the original

6:12

baker of the person art ban

6:15

it in the nineteen forties, which

6:17

meant that Pershing at that time

6:19

was in his eighties. By

6:21

that point, General Pershing had become

6:23

a Pulitzer prize winning author for

6:25

his memoirs called. My experiences

6:28

in. The World War. Okay,

6:30

so. It seems that he was

6:32

a bit of a military superstar. He

6:34

was. And then of course we're war.

6:36

Two broke out in Nineteen Thirty Nine,

6:39

essentially against the same enemy Germany and

6:41

so answer this charismatic same as general

6:43

in the site of the days of

6:46

patriotism and of course fear over being

6:48

involved in another world war and baker

6:50

art Ban it is trying out some

6:53

recipes. hits it off with this famous

6:55

General and thinks. That. Guy

6:57

I'm naming this delicious thing. After

7:00

that guy. Like

7:04

I guess that makes sense for

7:07

the time periods. Okay and then

7:09

the name Pershing Bar and

7:11

just got shortened or evolved into

7:14

the person. Yeah, I think

7:16

that's I haven't assistance as shorthand but

7:18

the pastry didn't unpopular right away. Years

7:20

Michael again. And com or

7:23

public sector for several decades

7:25

after that are and our

7:28

someone impose your. Purchase

7:30

bad bet it's patriot early sixties and

7:33

it was mario new change that basically

7:35

spite it forward. Why does he received

7:37

about other bob and that sort of

7:39

how it eventually took off it became

7:41

an iconic been to repay the per

7:44

se. Eventually opened a Person That bakery

7:46

of I trade which was devoted to

7:48

push. The

7:50

bakery was called. The person man yeah

7:52

it's still call that and they have to

7:55

in town actually. So. There's

7:57

this little cafe that

7:59

looks. It's. Just. A

8:01

time capsule ago. It's like it from. The

8:03

nineteen forties. And the one I

8:06

used to go to be over by the

8:08

husky and over near like a university. So.

8:10

We. Would go to the person and

8:12

me and my dad actually would take like a

8:14

lunch break as usual and have a persian and

8:16

a coffee and then. I go back to

8:18

high school or whatever I was doing at the time. So

8:22

that's keep Parker and Erica gel or

8:24

and there explaining their experiences at the

8:26

person mans. He told me he got

8:28

introduced to them when he was growing

8:30

up because the Persian man would come

8:32

into schools. And. So they have a

8:34

person day and so you'd be a dollar

8:37

and you get to Persian like there should

8:39

be some seats and so the whole school

8:41

and pursue the show up in the whole

8:44

school smells like person. So that was kinda

8:46

like my first. Like. Memory

8:48

is happy Dance School and the

8:50

being a big big deal person

8:52

day would take on a whole

8:54

different meaning if people weren't from.

8:57

Sunder Bay is totally. I was.

8:59

I was truly curious if that was the

9:01

reason though, that we. Don't see persons

9:03

in other parts of Canada. I

9:05

set it up after a few years.

9:07

Get out of sight, you know, lad?

9:10

I. Get a lot of weird looks and

9:12

sometimes I'm the fight idol. I

9:14

don't think they can separate. Person.

9:18

The ethnicity from person but

9:20

desert saw as as like

9:23

you know i'm just i'm

9:25

I'm gonna stop us find

9:27

offensive to see boss me.

9:30

Yeah, I mean, I get that. That makes

9:32

sense. It totally makes sense. But here's

9:34

the thing, the more I looked into

9:36

it, I realize there are other places

9:38

selling Persians but does does not in

9:40

Canada. strangely as an a bakery in

9:43

Indiana that makes a person but it

9:45

doesn't have the same time icing. You

9:47

can also buy Persian buns and other

9:49

places in the states namely Walmart weirdly

9:51

on littered and they have white icing

9:53

on them which I think cancels them.

9:56

Out from being a true, you know,

9:58

quote unquote person. So. The

10:00

Pinkberry I sing with the cinnamon

10:02

buns/don't at like interior of that's

10:05

truly a Thunder. Bay Invention it

10:07

is. It lives there and it says there

10:09

and the people are passionate about it. I

10:11

mean, it's such a thing there. I was

10:13

actually very curious if there was an exhibit

10:16

dedicated to the person. In the center of a

10:18

museum. Girl's

10:20

gotta. Admit

10:22

the idea of are as with Jeopardy. While

10:26

you know maybe they can do a touring

10:28

exhibitions and comes Montreal. or maybe I ought

10:31

to have. Maybe I'll see if the been

10:33

lives up to the other men it's named

10:35

after. I agree and. Then hit Toronto on

10:37

the way back. I would be very into

10:39

this. Very a senior leaves me up with

10:41

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