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I'm gonna
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now bring in the real star
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of the show, Dave Rubin. Thank you. Switch
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mics. Switch mics. Alright, we're
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switching mics. Make some noise for Bobby,
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everybody. I
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have to say, I fled
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California very publicly about two
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years ago. I campaigned... It's
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mic. I campaigned... Oh, there we
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go. Holding
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the antenna. Okay. Sorry, it's
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my first time doing this in front of an audience. I
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fled California very publicly. I campaigned,
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actually, for the recall alongside
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Larry Elder, which obviously did
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not end up going the way we might have wanted
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here in Cali, but I got audited by
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the state three days after the recall,
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and that's actually the day that I put my house for
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sale. I mention that only
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because this is one of the few things that would bring
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me back to California, because I've
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soured on this. I now live in the free
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state of Florida, but it's a pleasure listening
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to you and my friend Dennis Prager. And
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I thought we'd start with something a little bizarre,
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because obviously there's plenty to talk about, and
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the world seems to be in a bit of a chaotic place. But
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on the way here, as I was in the car, I looked
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at your Twitter, and I want to read your
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last
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tweet, because I think this encapsulates
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a lot of people's frustrations with
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what's going on here in California. You wrote,
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yesterday, an intruder climbed the
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fence at my home and was arrested. After
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being released from police custody
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later in the day, he immediately
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returned to my home and was
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arrested again. So,
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twice in one day at your house, you
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mentioned that your wife Cheryl was doing a Facebook
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livestream at that moment. Is
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that a perfect
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example of the frustrations
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that people are having? in this town,
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in this state, and really, really
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across the country at this point.
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Yeah, I was, this is, you were with
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me a few minutes ago when I was up
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on my Twitter, and I didn't really want to put it up
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on my Twitter, because I didn't want to see it like
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I was lying. My
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wife saw it from over the
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fence, and she was doing a Twitter space
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with any of her Facebook
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files, or Instagram
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on.
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And then she saw
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these wonderful guys from, probably
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after the security guys, that
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there had been a short incident that
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was being passed on, but he
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was not, and he threw her away.
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I had written me over 400 emails
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over the week of the month, including many
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members of the month that I made a
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week ago, and that threatened
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to pull it in all your head. And so,
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you know,
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it was one
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of several incidents that had
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happened where you can hate,
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including the guy who showed
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up in LA at
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a theater in Wilshire, where he was doing a rally,
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and asked for me, and he was wearing a
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US Marshall badge, along
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with that, and a federal
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ID, and he, these guys,
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patted him because they thought the badge
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was too shiny, and he asked to see
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me,
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and they pulled him aside, and
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he had two shoulder holsters on, and they were
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photo loaded with, each one with
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a magazine, and the word was eight bullets.
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He
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did make a new picture,
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and it loaded me in a big, little,
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small picture magazine, and
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I had knives and other weapons in
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there, and
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his house later
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on, and he
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gave me a, he had given a TikTok,
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a real TikTok that said it wasn't from
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back then. self-contact
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your commander and people, etc. So
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it was a... We
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repeatedly asked these by the administration
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for a secret service protection on the
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only candidate to have a seat who
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has asked for a present-day candidate who
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has requested to keep a city protection
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as they divide. Most
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people get... They immediately have
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to give it to you on a dedicated offer. Ultimately,
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he's given an uncle-guided 500
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days out that he had a paper
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basis available through programs
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before he had the primaries after
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my father was killed. And
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ever since, people are just...
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Hopefully, I'm not giving...
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I think Obama got it 500 days out and
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now 365 days out. So
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none of those kind of things you had
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when they survived earlier in the
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day. It's disturbing
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to me because I'm watching a
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politicization of the other
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primaries. And
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when my father got his justice office, the
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first office president who brought
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all the attorneys together and the one
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thing he said to me is, we are not going to
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do... We are not going to do anything against justice
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in this country. And
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I don't know if you're at this age or three, but
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just when we held a conversation, I was
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going to grab some phone calls and I'm going to be
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treatment. And today, that is why I got all
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this. This is Biden.
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His essentially made father behind
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him in the Oval Office. And
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his family members get secret
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service protection. And
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he actually made all the
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secret service protection. And
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I don't like him. He's
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a guy that I've gone home to. Here
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he is after the Obama. I
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imagine that as
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a whole, they're doing it exactly what I think.
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I think they understand
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it very good. And
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they probably do. So
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that's why I'm now, I just want to say
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this. I'm
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involved in a number of lawsuits against
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the administration. One
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of those states is now in Texas Supreme
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Court getting very surprised. And
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that, and I'm not sure
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about any case, but certainly this. We
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got a lower court decision than Judge
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Dolly the candidate said. And
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the decision is that Americans
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should have to read it and sit it to class because
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it shows what happens when you close out of the
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state of the state of the country. It
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shows that when you go to the state
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of the country, you have a body of the state
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that you look to the right side of it. And
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the argument of the White House
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is early in Twitter and Facebook and Instagram,
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and Twitter and Facebook. And I'm glad to remember
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something that you saw last day
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where it was like, I think it was a private
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group of such a few, so many people,
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all the special people, they could
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not say their business would die.
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The A-MOC, like Section
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230A, and what we found from the political
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and the community, and I think it's coming
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in. There's a White House,
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there's a national White House, Facebook,
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and the other social media sites
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for how important. Media,
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FBI, who go
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in directly and send in material.
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And the FBI has gave access
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to the CIA. DHS
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to the ALS and to about 12
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other federal agencies. So
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you had, you know, listen, I've
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been sent here for 18 years, but
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not officially by the government. And,
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you know, the new department, CNN,
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CNN, all the way on, you can't get out
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of the law, you have to go out there. That's
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not, that's not the only person out
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there. You ought to be impressed. You
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can choose what defense, what's not to say. You
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own a cable station. How
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do you deal with it? You own a cable
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station. You can decide what defense or
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not to say. But on the
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government, they didn't
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follow you. And now,
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they're a first amendment. Because
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they think that we probably have a first amendment to
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make sure that the government could not silence
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its critic. And I
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think it allows them that a
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government in the religious world has license
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for every apartment. Because,
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you know, what the people think of the people
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who are this, there's no end to the power that
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you can then claim. So
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I guess that's a great segue. And I know a
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lot of people obviously want to talk about what's going on in Israel.
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We'll get to that. But that's a great segue to
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what has happened to the Democrat Party.
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You know, the day that you announced, I
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said on my show, and my audience tends to lean
9:30
a little more conservative now. I said to my
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audience, by the end of this thing, I
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don't know that he will be a Republican, but
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he will not be a Democrat. And you are now
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running independent. I
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said it on my show. We'll send you the clip.
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I said it the day you announced. It was obvious.
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I had seen Dennis mention the YLF,
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the left video that I did. I
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had seen that path, even just from Chinese to
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some of the people here this evening. They're
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on that path as well. I think a lot
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of people are awake. But what do
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you think happened? really to
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that party that has led to the radicalism
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and or, I would argue, utter incompetence
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that we're seeing right now. I
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think a couple of things happened. One
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is, the Democratic
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Party
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was interesting because the
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Democratic Party I grew up in could
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not... I watched this
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evolution happen because I was involved
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in the medical freedom issues and
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that was really the spirit of what happened
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to
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the Democratic Party. The Democratic
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Party
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I grew up in always had trouble federalism
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because the groups
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of the fundwares were very limited. They
10:43
could fund really some trial lawyers, they
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could fund a firm union.
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But most of the big corporations
10:54
were off limits and I'm like, you
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know, a really pure Democrat wouldn't take any
10:58
corporate money which meant a part
11:00
of an election. Meanwhile
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the big money was going to
11:05
me in the oil industry,
11:08
the oil industry, the oil industry,
11:11
the food,
11:11
the ag industry was
11:14
mainly going to Republicans. There were a lot of Midwestern
11:17
ag, you know, ag state Democrats that
11:19
were taking money from
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Cargill and Monsanto
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and Smithfield and Purdue and both both
11:25
of them. The Democrats
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wouldn't take pharmaceutical money. Another
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one, in 2016 when they were
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fighting and potential all of those hating
11:36
on the economic era. In
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the years preceding, 2012,
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20th century, the
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Democrat, the
11:46
Obama administration had to make a deal with
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the pharmaceutical companies. And what did
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that Obamacare
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throw? The farm is the biggest,
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the body is sent out all along, the Democratic Party
11:58
all along. And
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they are off the
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church and what's the problem?
12:07
And the Obama administration had to make a deal
12:09
with them. And
12:13
the deal they made
12:14
is that we're going to do a Medicare
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and we are going to buy your without
12:20
bargaining, we're going to buy everybody
12:22
a few drugs
12:23
and we're going to go really rich. And
12:26
we won't buy some property in it. And
12:29
so they got the money.
12:32
And that was
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capable of the Democrats' influence
12:37
and they just started
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making it. And then President Trump
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ran it 2016
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and President Trump said, on three
12:47
occasions while he went running, at
12:50
this time Democrats or Republicans were using the
12:52
list of our vaccines. And
12:55
you could go and talk to Democrats about it.
12:58
And President Trump on three occasions said that
13:00
he believed that vaccines turned out to mean
13:02
new people looked through it. And
13:04
the moderates, they told me, they still... We
13:07
went through it, and those
13:09
kids had gotten all done for nothing. So
13:11
he said that and Democrats,
13:14
that issue then became a revelation.
13:17
Democrats put that issue in the
13:19
same dumpster, the anti-pilots dumpster,
13:22
as climate denial and the other stuff, and
13:24
it was just part of Trump's insanity.
13:28
Well after that, after 2016,
13:30
you could not talk about that
13:32
issue, and
13:35
it became, you know, they
13:39
started protecting the pharmaceutical
13:41
company. And
13:43
then we saw this complete insanity,
13:46
which people called Trump, or
13:48
sorry, probably Trump's arrangement center,
13:51
which is Donald Trump began dictating
13:54
the entire platform to
13:56
the Democratic Party. So the only call for it is
13:59
always hate it.
13:59
NAFTA. Who
14:02
does Trump said, I don't like NAFTA, they
14:04
started loving it. As
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soon as Trump said, I'm
14:09
anti-war, the Democrats
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started loving war. And
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it happened
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with every issue. It was extraordinary. It was
14:18
just like the kids who made their parents
14:20
and become their parents because they hate them so much.
14:23
The Democratic Party became the
14:26
very thing that the tyrant and you
14:28
know, that served on the internet,
14:31
they were matted. Trump first.
14:32
They were making a Republican
14:35
secession, Boston maybe, and the United States
14:37
and the American nation. So all this weird
14:40
stuff, I mean that's the evolution that I watched
14:42
happen and I think a lot of it now is just
14:44
driven by
14:46
many things. You know people are asking me to talk
14:48
on party because they say it's dangerous. They keep
14:50
using that word. It's just dangerous. I've
14:52
never heard anybody say anything about
14:55
it. They say,
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you want President Biden because
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he has a vision to this
15:02
country and he has the vigor
15:04
and energy to really lead this
15:06
country in this critical period.
15:08
Nobody ever said that. They
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say, you've got to vote for Biden or Trump
15:13
again. So it's all about using
15:16
here any
15:18
of the Democratic Party. The byline
15:20
of the Democratic Party was sent to Delaware,
15:23
the first of learning that the only
15:25
thing we have to feel is here itself. The
15:28
reason he said that in 1932 is
15:30
since he was watching
15:32
what was happening in Europe, which
15:34
was in Spain and Italy and Germany,
15:37
was that the authoritarian systems were emerging
15:40
and right wing was out there and left
15:42
wing was out there. And so
15:44
he came in and he promised
15:46
that they were all using here
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and disabled the capacity to get
15:51
up and vote42 Well,
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the truth is,
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who's the crack of all oppression? As
16:07
long as we don't have a lot to fear, as we
16:09
get through it with our democracy and ties
16:11
with pre-war capitalism, talking is able
16:14
to save capitalism at that time. About
16:17
a third of the people in this country had a fast
16:20
system, about a third were dominant, and
16:22
only a third had a good. And everybody
16:25
felt the system had broken, and he
16:27
was able to prove our period. The
16:30
economy was in fantastic effect. The
16:33
Democratic Party was not the party of fear, now
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it's the party of fear. We
16:37
sought to engulf it and we see it down in
16:39
action. So
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speaking of those thirds, what does the coalition
16:46
look like to you that you could put together that
16:48
maybe
16:48
some of the other candidates can't? Taking
16:50
the disaffected
16:51
liberal, I suspect there's a bunch of them
16:54
here, taking the more moderate conservative. What
16:57
does that actually look like? What are the common
16:59
points that could lead you to
17:01
the White House? I
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think people are asking who my constituency
17:07
is, and I always say
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that it's
17:10
the Milgram experiment of constituency.
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It's the 30%
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of people who walked
17:17
out of the Milgram experiment, which is the Milgram
17:19
experiment, and they also, the CIA experiment,
17:22
it was done at the end,
17:24
and they were in an A-bar, and they
17:26
shot me. The
17:28
Soviets were going to shot me
17:31
through the wall at the top of the island,
17:33
and that's where I was considered a third of the world. He
17:37
was screaming and shouting and struggling
17:39
and pleading, and they turned it on. The
17:47
people were crying, and they so said
17:49
they shot me there, and he was wearing a small,
17:52
a lab coat, a doctor,
17:54
all these acoustics of the anxiety, and
17:57
he was also of the local authorities.
18:01
And so they were doing what he said, and 67% of
18:03
them ended up putting a George
18:06
Lucas at the polls. There
18:08
was more potentially evil. And
18:11
so it was out, and what program
18:14
concluded is they were people
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and then 42 by
18:21
a person of a story called,
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and the good result was that 33% of them had an audience.
18:34
And those were the people who
18:36
did not have the benefit
18:38
of having the benefit of being disabled. And
18:41
I would say that would include almost everybody
18:44
in the school. And
19:15
the reason was because of the first time I had
19:17
an inside meeting with George Lucas. All
19:21
of them had a false side to the past meeting,
19:23
and none of them had to be disabled.
19:26
And I see myself as
19:28
a, as my single king was actually some
19:31
heart of the old character. And we were out
19:33
of the actual heart of the old character. And
19:35
it was just a beautiful year that we were
19:38
about the same day. So,
19:40
you know, experts, you
19:43
can't trust the experts. In a democracy,
19:45
you know, one of
19:47
the big gains of a democracy
19:50
is that you actually do
19:53
have a duty to maintain a posture
19:55
of few opposition towards firms on the floor. That
19:59
was also true.
19:59
question everything. And
20:03
so I took the people
20:04
that I was involved in, you know, false cause.
20:07
On my job, a group of those,
20:10
these are people that people were questioning,
20:12
you know, everything I did this morning.
20:16
The Harvey ours only came out this week, and
20:18
they were 20%. And
20:20
what is it that people that
20:24
are joining us, the
20:26
people who are watching and seeing
20:30
and thinking. If you
20:32
watch, the only thing that you
20:34
watch is CNN and MSNBC and the New York Times.
20:38
If I read the article,
20:40
if I was in that information bubble,
20:42
I would have a very low opinion on myself.
20:45
And so they were the three and completely
20:48
did it to a very poor category. What
20:51
we find is that when we can get
20:53
them to listen to a podcast,
20:56
that within 10 minutes, most of them are concerned.
20:59
And they start thinking, you know, what are the different
21:01
things in the game? I
21:04
go in and do this
21:06
with this particular example of
21:08
the case, and I'm going off with
21:10
a lot of certain thoughts. So let's talk
21:13
about
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the thing that's obviously
21:18
on everyone's mind, what's happening in Israel.
21:21
But I thought maybe before we do the macro, sort of political
21:23
version of that, we can maybe talk about
21:25
how people are seeing here in America, because there
21:28
really is a new level
21:30
of fear.
21:31
And you addressed fear earlier. We're
21:33
seeing what's happening on the college campuses. We're
21:35
seeing the radicalism within
21:37
the Democrat Party with
21:40
the eight members who I call the Hamas
21:42
caucus. What
21:46
do you think is happening here in America connected
21:49
to what's going on in the Middle East? And then we can talk about
21:51
it sort of politically, geopolitically. Well,
21:54
I mean, I think there's this insanity going on on
21:56
the campuses that, you know, was already...
22:00
And what Dennis had in the left wing
22:02
of the Democratic Party, where there's, um,
22:04
where
22:06
they just adopted
22:09
this false narrative about Israel,
22:11
about the entire history of Israel, where
22:13
people, and I see,
22:18
I'm shocked to see, because my kids
22:20
are very well educated, and they,
22:23
I'd say most of their friends are Jewish,
22:26
and even with their Jewish friends,
22:28
there is this kind of, um,
22:32
there's ignorance about, you
22:34
know, mainstream Israel, and they all
22:37
adopted this,
22:39
uh, narrative that Israel
22:42
is a white oppressor nation
22:44
that was dropped down on these, you know,
22:46
indigenous Palestinians,
22:48
and has been dominated them
22:50
in the land. And,
22:53
as an apartheid state, and,
22:55
um, and, um, and, you
22:57
know, it's, you know, I think that
23:03
one of my jobs is to, is to
23:05
make them appropriate for Israel, and I think it's
23:07
an easy case to make.
23:10
Um, and, you know, I was talking to an
23:13
interview, and, and, and, and, and, and,
23:15
and, um, Jesus,
23:17
he was an IPL clerk
23:18
he came before he died.
23:20
Here's a, there's a really
23:22
good speech that was done
23:24
by Prince Banda, which I urge
23:26
you all to get ahold of, and it was done in
23:29
2020, and at that point the Prince Banda
23:31
Ah-Ah was that person's yesterday,
23:34
and it was the only time of the
23:36
day before he was, uh, as well as the time. Prince
23:40
Banda is the successor of
23:42
Prince Twinkie in Washington,
23:45
and his body print, who took over as
23:47
Chief of the Intelligence Agency,
23:50
also a vast United States, and he,
23:52
we talked a lot about this, about the history
23:54
of Palestine. They're
23:56
very pro-Palestinian, but they
23:58
also are very, about
24:00
what the issue is. And
24:03
they understand and are goes
24:05
through this history that the Palestinians,
24:08
he says, and this is
24:10
what I think people are asking to say
24:12
because anybody's faith is primary narrative
24:16
that if
24:16
they just really came from how it came from
24:18
here and I think we are in a world
24:22
of guilty of all the
24:24
things that are wrong with God. That
24:28
God is just a open air demon
24:31
because
24:31
he's real nature. And
24:33
nobody understands the history of God,
24:36
it's just real. You know,
24:39
in 2006, 2005, and in Gaza, and I think of one
24:41
Gaza, they
24:45
tried to take the Egyptians and come into
24:47
it.
24:48
And the decision was taken. Nobody
24:52
complained in the Gaza for 20 years
24:54
when Gaza was for the Egypt. Nobody
24:56
wanted to balance anything. And
24:59
when, and, and, and Charon
25:03
gave it in the penitent. At
25:05
that time, Shimon Parris said, we want
25:07
to help Gaza. We want to turn
25:09
it into the Singapore of the West.
25:13
We
25:13
will pay, Israel will pay to
25:15
develop a port of Gaza. The
25:18
greatest port in the Caribbean.
25:20
They gave Israel donated 3,000
25:23
greenhouses that were paid to
25:25
be our greenhouses to make Gaza
25:27
sufficient food. Gaza
25:30
became the greatest recipient
25:32
of international aid of any
25:35
people in the world. Getting to any
25:37
people and instead of being a part
25:40
of our plan, they get there in 2006
25:42
through,
25:44
and I've never seen a very easy one, even
25:46
after the three of them from Jerusalem. And
25:48
we don't want to have this. The only
25:50
thing Israel is dirty and
25:53
they smash all the coal houses. They reject
25:55
the bodies of the world. It's
25:57
taken almost every time in the world. and
26:00
they turned it
26:02
into an used to fly weapon instead
26:05
of making it a better thing for people. And
26:08
of course, we really can't put up a plan.
26:11
It has a 30,000 rockets and motors
26:14
in it, and it has 30,000. There's
26:20
no country in the world that
26:22
would put up with that. And that's
26:24
a solution target. And
26:26
imagine if two of
26:29
us sent one missile on
26:31
Miami. How long
26:33
would it take us before we occupied
26:36
the full island? It would
26:38
be a good day. So,
26:41
odd days. And
26:44
then they do this raid. I mean,
26:46
if you leave that, Americans can't
26:48
even remember what happened to us on 9-11. We
26:52
got ahead and we immediately went over
26:54
and found a guy who did it in Torporia.
26:58
And of course Israel has an absolute
27:00
right to go into Gaza, and
27:03
they have a moral obligation to protect their
27:05
people, like any country in the world
27:08
has that moral obligation, the number one moral
27:10
obligation. Now,
27:13
I hope they won't
27:15
go into Gaza,
27:16
and for one, for a number
27:18
of reasons. One, I
27:20
think it will be a terrible battle, and
27:23
the more rubble I think it will be like Solengrad.
27:26
And, you know, as guys in all of Hamas, fight's
27:29
dirty. It's like this person
27:31
that's making civilian-simmons shields. They're
27:33
going to have their fighters hanging out in the
27:35
tunnels. The hostages are going to be in the tunnels.
27:39
And there's wormholes all over the place,
27:41
and rabbit holes when they can come up and fight.
27:44
And it's like Solengrad. The more
27:46
rubble it was, the easier it
27:48
was for the resistance to operate. So
27:50
I think a lot of Israeli kids are going to die,
27:52
you know, potentially tens of thousands
27:54
of them. And
27:56
the
27:56
publicity
27:59
around the very end.
27:59
world is going to amplify
28:02
all these beliefs of anti-Semitism that are
28:04
happening now all over the world. I
28:08
think the saddest part of this was
28:10
the, let's
28:10
see, you
28:13
know, what that model did
28:15
was one point one point that $3.00 in
28:18
feature
28:18
mods which really
28:21
injured the politics for this single-headed
28:24
man. So it was a bit
28:26
more proof there to
28:28
have this pure case which I think
28:31
we had prior to that. And
28:34
also, I know we're under
28:37
the political war. We did
28:39
this. It's very very, you
28:42
know, Lebanon could come in here
28:45
and Egypt already
28:47
has 350,000 troops staged to come in
28:49
there threatening to Turkey. Cece
28:51
is saying that he's going to come
28:53
in.
28:55
And if that happens, Russia
28:57
almost certainly can. We can easily
28:59
sleepwalk into a world of Muslims. And,
29:02
you know, the United States, the
29:04
people who are running are coming now. I don't think
29:06
we can. I think it's all been able
29:09
hangs. It's worth it.
29:11
I don't think any of them have a healthy
29:13
fear of the
29:14
good world. We also
29:16
have the diminished army. And, you know,
29:18
we're fighting a two-time war. And
29:22
it's going to be tempting
29:24
to go through the
29:27
punchline to the endgame because
29:29
we have this, you know, army
29:31
is not a cold war.
29:34
So there's this whole situation here
29:36
in Israel that had to be, you know, they've
29:38
been doing police actions and they were
29:40
real fighting. And
29:43
as our punches have been
29:45
very long, it's not the
29:47
kind of nice, thin punches that they were fighting.
29:50
And, you know, it was the 67
29:52
and on the 73, all these other, you know,
29:55
I think it's a very, very different
29:57
question
29:57
for those fighting now.
30:00
So I'm very worried and I
30:02
completely keep me off the latest
30:04
site and I work in the White House.
30:08
I would be reaching out to President
30:10
Sanders and his team and
30:13
I would reject Putin. I
30:15
would reach out to other countries and say,
30:17
how do we make this not
30:20
only with the United States and the Russians
30:22
with a thousand more nuclear weapons than we do?
30:26
And much better nuclear weapons than we do. I have
30:28
defensive weapons which we don't know how they
30:30
can shoot down our weapons with a hard touch
30:33
in a day and day. They
30:36
have a defensive strategy. They
30:38
know how to shoot down our stuff. The
30:43
project only has one game around the world.
30:45
It has one basis here and
30:48
China has one and a half basis. And
30:51
also then you get a notification
30:53
of full-state industries and you have the perfect
30:55
time to try to develop a timeline. And
30:58
we cannot live without that timeline. I
31:01
want to make the micro-process
31:04
team to be a friendly smart
31:06
US weapon. I think this one has some
31:08
every...all of our weapons
31:11
needs these activities. It
31:14
doesn't mean we can't live without
31:16
some threats that are only made in Taiwan.
31:20
It's like the oil of the past, it's
31:24
kind of a hold of our resources.
31:26
We simply need a little help from that. And
31:32
it's a perfect time for them to go to Taiwan
31:34
and learn about the principles of oil. So I have
31:36
all these scenarios going on. And
31:40
I had that job, what I would be doing... I
31:42
don't think the people who are in that job now
31:44
are in it.
31:46
And
31:48
that gets really scary now. I
31:51
just want to say one last thing. There's
31:54
a Van D'Ar speech which I urge
31:56
you
31:56
to read. He
31:59
talks about it. that
32:02
this long history going back to 1947
32:04
and into the Grand Mokhi
32:07
of Jerusalem, who
32:11
was working with Hitler on the
32:14
final solution, and
32:17
that in 1937 they were offered a
32:20
two-state creation, 47 are offered a two-state
32:22
creation, 67 are offered a two-state
32:25
solution, and they come up with
32:27
all the subconscious, come up with the three nodes,
32:30
peace, negotiation, or recognition.
32:34
And in 1984 they then offered
32:36
a two-state solution, and
32:38
Gerstner and 2001, the province and David
32:41
Corbs, Ayla Barak, offered hard-paying
32:44
discussions, including all complete
32:46
returns to the 67 boundaries, accepted 3%
32:50
of the West Bank, and given 3%
32:52
of the Israel land. Barak
32:55
didn't do it, didn't want to do it, nobody
32:57
in Israel did, Clinton twisted
33:00
his arms, made him do it, and they
33:02
offered it to him. And he,
33:04
Yasser Arafat, walked
33:07
away from that without a cover-up. And, yes,
33:09
and the West, the same kind of situation
33:12
that Arafat had,
33:16
and he goes
33:18
through, his descriptions of Arafat
33:21
are really interesting
33:23
and insane. And
33:25
he goes through,
33:27
he goes through, he
33:30
says to Arafat at that time, he says, you
33:32
know, the deal you got in Arafat was not
33:35
as near as good as it did, often
33:37
through that decade of 2001. He
33:40
wasn't, he was very
33:43
anxious, he was very anxious
33:45
on his way out of it. And
33:48
Arafat
33:48
said that deal was ten
33:50
times better than what he's designed. And,
33:53
and, and, and I was just like, why are
33:55
you taking this? Because my
33:58
own people would have killed me if I didn't. The
34:00
only solution is the extermination
34:03
of every pill and obliteration
34:05
of Israel. And that is to anybody
34:08
like Hamas in its charter.
34:11
Because negotiations
34:13
are fruitless, anybody who
34:15
gains them should be guilty. It's
34:18
a tragedy. You are to pay a inflam
34:20
to negotiate. So
34:22
how do you have a negotiation partner? How
34:25
do you know the kids at Harvard, what
34:27
do they think that, you know, what,
34:31
here's what I always say, if you want to
34:33
stay calm, it
34:35
is a good technique for
34:37
staying calm if you're in an argument
34:40
about Palestine.
34:41
Ask the person
34:44
what do the Palestinians want?
34:48
They want an extension of the government's
34:50
mayhem, which are apartheid
34:55
governments. Let's
34:57
use them to write to run
34:59
for office in Gaza.
35:00
And to infiltrate the
35:03
region's union in the river. And
35:05
you also talked about brutal apartheid regimes. Those
35:13
countries are, as you know, are
35:15
identified
35:15
as public in their own populations. What's
35:19
it about
35:20
the new ones, if they want a democracy? No.
35:23
There's better than any blend by
35:25
ethnosis. There's no way one of us is a democracy.
35:28
And what do you say to the nation? Hey,
35:30
hey, hey, maybe we can answer a question.
35:33
The question is, the answer to it is,
35:35
they want to eliminate every Jew. And
35:39
they want to obliterate Israel. And it's been
35:41
the same answer since 1937, 1938. It's
35:46
always been consistent. If
35:49
we own the land, if we own
35:51
the land, the Quran, noted
35:54
an offense against Allah,
35:57
the good of land that was once caused by Israel,
36:00
and the Let it App embodied
36:02
that you get up and are
36:17
you knowing TV at night from him
36:21
at opportunity angles if
36:24
it was all throw reduced
36:58
there's no end to that in every case
37:01
it's almost all the best work
37:04
when they gave it away, when they divided up the
37:07
police came in and they interviewed
37:09
the grandpa and they said, can
37:12
you run with Jews? and
37:14
he said no,
37:15
he said we'll exterminate them he's
37:18
very faint about it and
37:21
they said the only thing that we can do is
37:23
have two states and so we'll take the parts
37:25
and tell it that our majority
37:27
Jewish people in those recruits will take
37:29
the parts and then the carry out will disappear
37:32
they were both images that used in their
37:34
continued speech in 3700 years the
37:38
Arabs mainly arrived in East
37:40
Libya, sent me in the Middle
37:43
East, they returned from the Middle East to
37:45
the Jews, they were classified by
37:48
the British oil industry and all
37:50
of that was in any state of the world they looked
37:52
at their names, their Egyptian names, their Moroccan
37:55
names so
37:57
they all arrived around the same time
38:01
science professor. But
38:03
there was a majority of each. It had nothing to
38:05
do with it. It was there. It was small.
38:07
That's what they did with it. It had to
38:09
be an automatic case. They said, if I had
38:11
the automatic case, there is no automatic case. I
38:14
had to put a giver to the
38:16
indigenous people. And
38:20
if
38:20
I was fine, there would do growth. I'd edit
38:22
the name.
38:24
Isn't it refreshing hearing a politician
38:26
who actually knows history and
38:29
dates
38:29
and morality and geography? You
38:33
know, I always play clips of
38:35
all the politicians on my show, obviously, and I always
38:37
find in a few moments that I can get it with
38:39
you and I can get it with the salthus. Where it's like,
38:42
oh, there's somebody that's telling the truth.
38:44
And when you hear the truth, you're
38:46
not contorted. You're not twisted.
38:47
It's easy to hear the truth. Everything
38:50
you just said there was cruel, unfortunately, with
38:53
the algorithms of TikTok and everything else. They
38:55
brainwashed the generation not to believe
38:58
any of that. But what if it makes
39:00
me think, as you were talking about the history, because
39:02
I don't know how many people we can win over in history. Maybe
39:04
there's something
39:05
else we can win over. Can you
39:07
talk about why you think it
39:09
matters? Israel may matter
39:11
to some of these people who are Jewish here,
39:14
but why does it matter for America and Americans? Because
39:17
I also see another version right
39:19
now of sort of the libertarian
39:21
version of, oh, just
39:22
forget that land, forget all that.
39:24
It has nothing to do with America. I personally
39:27
see it very differently. What do you think about that? I
39:29
mean,
39:30
you know, but my philosophy with
39:32
America is that we need to unravel
39:34
the empire. So
39:36
we have 800 bases abroad.
39:38
We pay 10 times for our military.
39:41
We pay more for our military than the next 10
39:43
nations combined. Oh,
39:47
you know, we can
39:49
cut our military expenditure in half. It's
39:53
now 1.3 trillion if you include
39:56
the national security
39:58
of the world.
39:59
USAID
40:04
and the national data to the policies
40:06
which I will, my uncle started them,
40:08
I will end them because they are completely
40:11
perverted what they have and what they've got.
40:14
I don't do anything good for our country. I'm going
40:16
to cut those
40:19
edges substantially, but under 500
40:21
billion, which is the same that it was when
40:24
under 100,000, when I was
40:26
an hour and 60,000 was in there. And
40:30
what we need to do is arm ourselves
40:32
to teeth and arms, so we
40:34
can protect our borders, make ourselves do what we
40:36
can to ever we can do, and then
40:38
protect the ceilings, protect the
40:41
neutral areas like the Arctic, and
40:43
make sure that we have the
40:46
reasons for the principles of us, including
40:49
the oil resources that are critical to the
40:51
world, that we have a strike
40:53
capacity to make sure that the evidence becomes
40:55
false.
40:57
And Israel is critical,
40:59
and the reason is critical is because the bulwark
41:01
for us in the Middle East, it's almost
41:03
like an aircraft carrier in the Middle East, it's our
41:06
oldest ally, our ally for 75 years. It
41:10
has been an incredible ally for us
41:13
in terms of the technology exchange,
41:17
and building the eyes of which we paid
41:19
a lot for has also taught
41:21
us enormously about how to defend
41:24
ourselves and all the business.
41:26
So those military
41:28
expenditures
41:32
are all going 75% of it
41:34
goes to the US under the
41:36
agreement of the MOA.
41:39
But if you look
41:41
at what's happening in the Middle East now, Iran
41:44
is now the closest
41:46
ally to Iran or Russia and China.
41:50
Iran also controls all Venezuela's
41:52
oil. In Bala,
41:54
it is in Venezuela. They
41:57
have popped up the material machine.
42:00
And so they control that oil supply.
42:04
Brick, Saudi Arabia,
42:06
South, and Jordan, Turkey.
42:08
Those countries will control 90% of
42:11
the oil in the world. It is
42:13
real good to be the
42:16
fashion of the Middle East, which is our
42:18
investments,
42:18
our
42:20
presence, our beach ahead of the Middle East. And
42:23
it gives us, it gives us ears
42:25
and eyes in the Middle East. It
42:27
gives us intelligence. It gives us the
42:29
capacity to
42:31
get
42:33
through a full comparison.
42:35
It is real good to hear Russia
42:38
try to open key controls for the Middle East. They
42:40
control 90% of the oil supply. And
42:43
that would be kind of a business for US
42:45
actions. That would be a bad
42:48
business. Why don't
42:50
we get one more topic, and then I think we're going to take a couple
42:52
questions from you guys. You mentioned a little
42:54
bit in your
42:54
talk about big tech, and you've been fighting
42:57
big tech as hard as anybody
42:58
for quite some time.
43:00
Do you ever feel that we're
43:02
too deep in it now in some ways
43:05
to reverse some of the effect
43:07
of the censorship and what we learned
43:09
from the Twitter files and the
43:12
algorithmic tricks that we know of, but as I always say, I'm
43:15
more worried about the ones that I don't know of and
43:17
how they might be shadow banning you at this very moment and
43:20
how much the agencies are still
43:22
probably entangled, and even you, Arne said,
43:24
he thinks he might have holes still at Twitter
43:27
even now. Do you
43:29
really see a way
43:30
out of that juggernaut problem? I
43:34
think it's very dangerous. We
43:37
can't really afford to be at war right now
43:39
with Russia and these
43:41
kind of conflicts with China, and even Iran.
43:44
We need to be sitting down with
43:47
each other and figuring out how to control
43:49
AI. We cannot
43:52
chase AI out of this country. We cannot
43:55
make this an all-sport habit.
43:59
is terrifying.
44:03
We better have it better here than anybody
44:05
else if we want to protect our national security
44:07
because we don't. It wouldn't be owned by
44:09
somebody else. Whoever controls that super intelligence
44:12
is going to control the world and humanity may not
44:15
be able to control
44:18
so long. We have this kind of turnkey totalitarianism
44:21
that is waiting there in the wings where if they
44:23
give off a bad
44:24
picture to go over, you know,
44:26
the others are able to just
44:30
follow you as it was even
44:32
though you're
44:32
in a secure conversation
44:34
to record. I think there's everything
44:37
about you. I think all
44:39
of us have this experience where we talk to my
44:43
wife and say that we need a new mattress and both
44:45
of us got, you know, indebted pay and
44:47
both of us got three mattress mats on our
44:49
phones at the next point. So it's
44:51
not just a mattress company. It's
44:55
like NSA. We've sorted all these
44:57
conversations. It is terrifying but
45:00
I think there are only, if he gets better people on
45:02
our own like you are, he's a game
45:05
man. And we can do, at
45:07
least mitigate the intrusive
45:10
impact of the controlling capacity of
45:14
this new surveillance technology. I had
45:16
dinner with the testors and I asked
45:19
them that very
45:20
question. Well
45:22
how would you control it? He said, you need to
45:25
have absolutely
45:26
transparent algorithms
45:31
and we need to give people a choice about what
45:33
kind of, what their algorithm is and
45:35
make it completely transparent. So if
45:38
you want to have a republican
45:41
algorithm, you can
45:43
have that. If you want to have a democratic algorithm,
45:45
you choose it yourself. If
45:48
you want to have an algorithm
45:50
that just is neutral and produces that,
45:53
like you know the most red news or science
45:55
news, whatever.
45:57
You choose it and you know what it says.
45:59
and you know it's going to end as a much more
46:02
difficult thing if you are a
46:04
part of the particular agenda. We're
46:06
now all this manipulatory. We're all
46:08
this manipulatory. It's an algorithm that we don't
46:10
understand. And
46:14
right now the algorithms have various
46:18
objectives. They have an agenda.
46:21
And the agenda
46:22
may be just to keep you interested,
46:25
to keep your eyeballs in the side. That's
46:27
a lead minister agenda. I think it's
46:29
very sinister. But
46:31
as we know, the way that you keep people
46:34
on the side
46:35
is by reinforcing their
46:38
biases
46:38
and their prejudices. And that
46:41
amplifies the polarization that is now
46:43
tearing our country apart. If
46:46
you and I are living right next door to each other and
46:48
you're a Republican and I'm a Democrat, we
46:51
both have to send a motion on Google. We're going
46:53
to get entirely different results. The
46:55
Google algorithm is sending
46:58
us things that it thinks are going to
47:00
hold us on the side. And
47:02
as it turns out, people
47:05
like creating things that reinforce
47:07
their existing prejudices
47:08
and their existing biases,
47:10
their existing worlds. And
47:14
so, and then you've
47:16
got all these other people, intelligence
47:18
agencies, and they're now designing the algorithms that
47:21
are manipulating
47:22
us. And
47:24
I'm saying, you can't see this information. We don't
47:26
want you to hear. We want
47:28
you to believe that. I'll be believing
47:31
it.
47:32
So the, Dorothy said,
47:34
the best solution to
47:36
that is to have us able to choose
47:39
our
47:39
own algorithms. And that way, we
47:41
know how we're being manipulated
47:42
and we're going to create ourselves organic
47:45
ones that are very good and effective.
47:48
And I said, that's a brilliant solution. And I told you, how powerful
47:51
these are, so that's
47:53
a bad time for people to know. Well,
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anyway, if I get in there, I'm going to do
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that stuff.
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