0:09

to be here. I'm so excited. Good

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afternoon. Michael Malice here. Let

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that be your welcome for the next two hours. We

0:19

are

0:19

live here in sunny Milwaukee, where it is hotter

0:21

than JFK's house.

0:24

I am here to be delighted to be

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hosting Dave Rubens returned the Internet. You have a

0:28

lot of fans

0:29

here. I'm excited to

0:31

be here. I'm excited to be here. I'm excited

0:33

to be on the air. I am sitting in the same chair

0:36

that Glenn Beck, Larry Elder, Ben Shapiro and Michael Nolte

0:40

have farted in. I'm adding my own set to that, and we're

0:42

gonna be filling you in on what happened over

0:44

the last month. I have literally

0:46

I just want to be very, very clear about this, as you know, but

0:48

I want everyone to know this. Watch this. I have literally

0:52

no idea what's going on in the world. We're at the

0:54

Republican debate right now, at the hotel and at

0:56

the restaurant.

0:59

And I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm so excited.

1:01

I'm so excited. I'm so excited. I'm so excited.

1:03

I will tell you one. maybe

1:07

happened. You want to just get

1:10

that out right up? Absolutely

1:12

by contextual clue. I do think a celebrity who I like

1:15

die. We're gonna open up to celebrity

1:17

deaths. Okay, hold that thought. I'll hold that thought. Can

1:19

I just say one other thing before we begin? Then this is your program

1:22

to take us wherever

1:24

you want to go. I have been in a Mexican

1:26

rainforest for the last two years. I

1:28

have no idea what's going on. I have

1:31

no idea what's going on. I have absolutely

1:34

nothing. I forgot my wallet yesterday

1:36

going to the airport because I just haven't had any

1:39

wallets or phones or anything. Forgot my belt today. We're

1:42

gonna target belt right now. Use our secret code and say,

1:44

Don't you know who I am? Well, two

1:47

guys recognize me at TSA, but they stood. They apparently they

1:49

don't take a random guy saying, Oh, yeah, that's Dave Rubin to

1:51

let you through. I had to be taken into homeland security.

1:53

And anyway, I made it to Milwaukee. I don't even know what's

1:57

going on. I don't even know what's

1:59

going on. I don't

19:44

the

20:00

suppressed where he was writing

20:02

to his ex girlfriend at the time

20:04

about how he fantasizes daily

20:07

about having sex with men wow

20:10

so now you guys have something in common and

20:16

the stream that way

20:19

wow glenn believe that rumor a little

20:22

bit of that's very this this has been rumored for a long

20:24

time ride your mean remember that there was that video

20:26

of like the gay prostitute right

20:28

from of when obama was running the first time so this

20:30

is what two thousand and seven

20:33

even if barack obama had a son he

20:35

would look like andrew guillem that ready

20:38

so so wow and are so

20:40

this is verify that this is not have any

20:42

the letters of arab a letter is america hasn't

20:44

addressed it

20:45

yeah kyo this the point

20:47

i made on twitter and i think it's actually

20:50

it's funny but i think it's true for

20:52

a long time there was this mystique

20:55

about political figures there and

20:57

bill clinton was never asked about the pretty

21:00

grounded a rape accusations from we need

21:03

a broderick yeah and that damn broke i think

21:05

it was either i think it was in twenty twenty that that

21:07

up or report

21:07

actually ask them to his face of this was kind

21:09

of under the radar but to me was a huge moment that

21:12

now instead of protecting oh we can't ask

21:14

him about their ira now we're going to ask him at

21:17

some point i predict and this isn't a big

21:19

production someone is going to ask

21:21

for repressive barack obama did

21:24

you stop having gay fantasies after

21:26

you got married rochelle obama and

21:28

when that happens it's gotta be the funniest thing on earth

21:30

the crew so basically you're saying and i and i think

21:32

at roughly been making these are employing the protection

21:35

racket that the media use the have

21:37

right for the politicians is coming to an end yes

21:39

there was a constant protection

21:40

racket where they could distract you and keep you

21:42

think about something else you know who really broke

21:45

it it was even before twenty twenty with juanita

21:47

it was trump in twenty sixteen when he took all

21:49

of bill clinton's accusers right a debate

21:52

on know who remember that was stuttering john

21:54

when he as gennifer flowers if

21:56

oh god sleep with any other presidential candidates

21:58

and a bill can't use the condoms now what ninety ninety

22:00

one ninety two wow credited as but then

22:02

he watering down of the press conference but

22:05

now yeah yeah i was really doing great job

22:07

what we do i just want know a little bit more about that

22:09

legal did anyone care

22:11

like was it or is it it's the thing is

22:13

this is so what maybe he's gate not that there's anything wrong

22:15

with that like i don't really buy a

22:17

is but it's jesus please

22:20

provide this is an intervention i know what you've been doing

22:22

as far as my super when i moved to new york city

22:25

but like

22:26

not that anyone really cares but you

22:28

know people people do say michelle is joan

22:30

rivers get oh yeah joan rivers said that

22:32

when she died but no at the it's

22:34

not that people really cared i think

22:36

i to be back it's not the carry so much about

22:39

the gay stuff but it just speaks

22:41

into the phoniness yes

22:43

because he always had this air and

22:45

people that the corporate press loved him because he's

22:47

every journalist wet dream they can read things into him

22:49

at ease up i've just like you and you are

22:51

and now it's kind of like this guy's kind of a

22:53

bit of a fraud did you see that interview

22:56

is one of the last things that we showed right

22:58

before i left where he sitting down with some

23:00

guy on comedy central or something and

23:02

they're asking him because he wrote this like top ten

23:04

songs of the year and top ten books that he

23:06

read know this and the guy asked him so come

23:08

on you listen to these songs he's like tell me one

23:10

lyric from the song and obama gets all

23:12

like all come on don't make me do that

23:15

you know i really yeah and it's like wow

23:17

so bullshit was called

23:19

and that's exactly what you're talking about it

23:21

if i am your like what's your favorite book and i'm like name

23:23

what what you're see in our like this moment know he literally

23:26

that would he was doing it was like he was

23:28

i normally wouldn't tell me what's that book about what's

23:30

that song about and a long as i got you

23:32

going to play me like it or wow

23:34

so the thing is breaking beautiful beautiful

23:36

yeah yeah okay we're only have to august

23:39

fourth wall my god okay

23:42

we're going to skip to the oh the i didn't

23:44

have obama is gabriel at least august twenty

23:46

eight for august eighth the others

23:48

are gay different sects iraq isn't entirely

23:50

gone it's a little different because they

23:52

don't ask obama about it so it's it's out there

23:55

yeah this

23:56

is really really great yeah okay i'm

23:58

not again i'm not joking It sounds like I'm joking.

24:00

Yeah, they found cocaine at the White House.

24:03

We knew that. Okay, that one. Yeah, okay They

24:05

did

24:06

a little investigation They're

24:08

like, oh we did an investigation. It's fine.

24:11

They admitted it belonged to one

24:13

of the Biden family orbit Members,

24:16

but they're not following up in any way and my

24:18

point was I don't care about

24:20

the cocaine Do coke do blow in the White House all you want Yeah,

24:22

this could be anthrax This should be the most

24:24

secure building probably on earth if you're

24:27

having powders Floating around the White House

24:29

and you're not getting this is public knowledge. This

24:31

is a problem This

24:32

is a security risk the protection racket really

24:34

might be the biggest problem We have in America more

24:36

than anything else because that sort of thing So you bring

24:38

coke into the White House and I agree basically like

24:40

you want to do drugs in your private time Do whatever the hell you want

24:42

to do and everyone's done all sorts of stuff fine But

24:45

like if they announce oh we found it we kind

24:47

of know who did it. Yes, but

24:49

also we're just we're just shutting it down We're

24:52

not gonna really go. It's sort of like what they're doing with him in his

24:54

taxes He's basically getting

24:56

off scot-free unless something unless you're about to tell me something

24:58

else. Oh really well Wesley

25:00

Snipes went to jail for three years For

25:02

federal tax evasion so you

25:04

think Wesley Snipes is feeling a little pissed

25:07

when he finds out that hunter

25:09

Going to jail for marijuana when hunting talking

25:11

to the New Yorker or the New York New York Mags or Trevor was

25:14

about smoking crack and leave these crack pipe in the hurts

25:16

or when Kamala Harris was bragging

25:18

joking around that She smoked pot while she was

25:20

jailing all those people as Attorney General So

25:22

I think she's listening to said to Snoop who didn't

25:25

come out until after she was gone from college So that was a lie

25:27

as well. Did you not remember that? Album

25:31

didn't come out so much later. It's like no you weren't total

25:34

fraud So that was kind

25:36

of a big deal. I think you're doing this in chronological order

25:38

not order of importance necessarily It's interesting

25:40

way

25:40

of hitting this keeping me on my

25:42

toes. Okay, Dianne Feinstein My

25:46

second favorite senator, I would

25:48

assume she's dead, but I know she did we did the

25:50

dead people She's 90. Yeah,

25:52

she tripped and fell in San Francisco. It was

25:54

taken to the hospital There is a lot of talk

25:57

about trying to pull her from the Senate. She's

25:59

handed over

25:59

I think power of attorney to her daughter

26:02

who's probably also accepted You're

26:06

prying that sentence he from her cold dead hands I don't

26:09

know if you remember this and this also sounds like a joke,

26:11

but it's not there was reporting I believe is in New

26:13

York Post that Chuck Schumer had

26:15

sat down with her and being like Diane,

26:18

you know You've got to resign you're not all there You

26:20

know whatever and she agreed and

26:22

then forgot and he had to have this conversation

26:25

with her I believe three times you can people can

26:27

look this up So at the

26:29

other

26:29

at the other extreme is like look Republicans

26:31

vote for Strom Thurmond till he was 99. Yeah,

26:34

he's a reliable Republican vote She's gonna

26:36

vote what would be the difference if you had like

26:39

in some random other Democrat It's so funny because

26:41

maybe that's the off the grid thing. That's the

26:43

most interesting like you bring up these names So it's

26:45

like this woman should be in a home Not

26:49

doing politics not in public president.

26:52

Yeah, exactly But

26:54

like these people that have that have offered nothing

26:57

that have done nothing right that stick around It's just so

26:59

when you step away from it for a little while, it's so

27:01

obvious. So she hasn't stepped

27:03

down She doesn't remember saying

27:05

she was gonna step down. Correct. And by the way, if she

27:07

did say publicly She said the Schumer privately

27:09

repeatedly But if she did step down we end up with

27:11

the same thing that if Biden steps down we get president

27:13

Kamala Harris Nobody wants that if she steps down

27:15

then Gavin has the right to pick the replacement,

27:17

right? And some people are thinking wait a minute

27:20

step down So we could put Kamala back in the Senate

27:22

and that will free up the VP slot for someone who will add

27:24

to the ticket Which would be a smart

27:26

move for them, man The Democrats they are you

27:29

could say what they want and the Republicans usually

27:31

suck sometimes they're a little

27:33

bit better You know as Peter Thiel says we

27:35

have the stupid party and the evil party the Democrats

27:37

are the evil party But then we just left with the stupid party

27:39

But like man, you got to give

27:41

them credit for being so evil whatever they what

27:43

are the the DeSantis Newsome thing that

27:45

you said? That's the signal that's

27:48

the signal this thing is Biden is not gonna be

27:50

running. Okay, here's one Joe

27:52

Manchin has left just

27:55

like Kristen Sinema left the Democratic Party.

27:57

He is caucusing

27:59

as an independent voting president.

28:01

So he's lost his committee assignments. All right. So

28:03

they still have majorities 50 to 40. And we have the clip from

28:06

Senator Manchin.

28:07

Fat broads and horse-faced

28:10

lesbians.

28:11

Done. Okay, that was just a joke. He

28:14

did not leave the Democratic Party. I just wanted

28:16

to have the clip of Elizabeth Warren saying, fat broads and

28:18

horse-faced lesbians. So

28:21

that was there. That's why I don't have an IFB, apparently.

28:24

He did not leave. He did not leave the Democratic Party.

28:26

Oh, but that was legit. Certainly worthy

28:29

of... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought

28:31

you were going to pull a fast one on him. It would be much more over the

28:33

top than that. I don't know what else you've got in these papers. Well, the

28:35

things are so crazy. These all sound like fast ones.

28:38

There was a woman arrested in the...

28:40

A teenage autistic girl

28:41

was arrested in the UK because

28:44

she said one of the cops looks like her

28:46

lesbian grandma. And they arrested

28:48

her for this. And the cop did look like

28:50

Megan Rapinoe. It's not even a question. And

28:53

she got arrested. And then they freed her. They apologized,

28:56

but it's like... But what arrested her for what?

28:59

You can say that someone looks like an old lesbian. In

29:01

the US.

29:02

I don't think people in the US... We always

29:04

complain about free speech and how... Cancer

29:07

culture, all that stuff. I don't think Americans are

29:09

appreciating how dark things are getting

29:11

in terms of speech in your broadly

29:13

speaking and in the UK specifically. And Canada,

29:15

probably. Oh, Canada, yeah, forget it. And Canada even more than

29:17

that. Wait, so they arrested an autistic woman.

29:20

Girl, teenager. It's not a woman. Teenager.

29:23

I'm sorry, it's a kid. But then they did let her out.

29:25

After there was a huge outcry, yeah. Jesus,

29:27

man. Yeah, that First Amendment thing, pretty good, huh?

29:30

Yes, if anyone... You happy to be here? I

29:32

am. In America? In Milwaukee

29:34

on this 100 degree date? I'd rather be in Texas, I'll be honest. We

29:37

do what we can with what we have. So here's...

29:40

Let's talk about Hunter again. So this was a very

29:42

interesting one. He

29:44

had a plea deal. He was gonna plea to something and

29:46

have... The judge

29:49

started sniffing around in this plea deal. And

29:52

part of the Hunter plea deal was that basically

29:54

he'd be absolved from any kind of future

29:56

prosecution and all sorts of other things. And

29:59

the judge...

29:59

I'm not signing off on this. So

30:02

the treaty- Wait, that wasn't right at the end of the

30:04

month? I sort of remember something right at the end of July

30:06

that there was- Yeah,

30:08

oh. So now it's the case looks like it's gonna actually

30:10

be headed for trial. Wow. So that's

30:13

a big one. So Protection Racquet

30:15

is 50-50 these days there. And

30:17

they appointed, at the police in Merrick Island, appointed

30:19

an independent counsel to investigate

30:22

Hunter Biden. Tim Scott already

30:25

started announcing him, but who knows where that's

30:27

gonna go if it could go in any direction. Right. Yeah,

30:30

again, it's just like, these are the most corrupt people.

30:32

When you step away from it, then

30:34

you start thinking about it. The Coke came at

30:36

the White House, the $80,000 a month

30:38

barisma deal for

30:41

the crackhead who had no experience in Ukrainian

30:44

energy. It's like, something ain't right

30:46

here. But again, so they take him down,

30:48

which then maybe takes down Biden, and

30:51

you get Kamala, or you get Gavin- Why would that

30:53

take down Biden? No, no, if somehow they could really

30:55

figure out that, because Biden admitted it, the

30:57

Ukrainian energy thing and firing the prosecutor. Biden admitted

31:00

it all on camera. Yeah, but there's no way,

31:02

you mean- My point is that if there's just enough

31:04

stink around everything with Hunter, and then people

31:06

are just done with Joe and the

31:08

faculties and everything, it's like,

31:10

they could get rid of him or push him aside, and man-

31:14

I think the tribes

31:17

protect their own, so they're gonna

31:19

very easily claim that Hunter's like, you look, they're

31:21

targeting

31:21

his family, leave the guy alone,

31:23

his kids died already. And I think

31:25

it'd be very hard to push him off

31:28

for this reason. Maybe that's

31:30

the way then, you really take out Hunter

31:32

as the sacrificial lamb, as the way of garnering

31:35

sympathy. And then you show how honest I am, and

31:38

then you pardon him on your way out. God,

31:40

it's all K-fabe. It's all K-fabe.

31:44

K-a-y-f-a-b, Google it,

31:47

although you probably already said it. And

31:49

this is, I'm gonna have to break it down, because

31:51

this is a long, complicated story that I wanted to add, but

31:53

this is what's going on in Europe,

31:54

okay? So I'm gonna need a minute on

31:56

this. Germany, people in America

31:58

are like, oh, the two parties suck. We need a third party,

32:01

you know blah blah blah. Many European countries

32:03

have like five six seven eight parties Germany

32:05

has six parties Okay, you

32:07

got the two main parties the Social Democrats the main center

32:09

left party the CDU Which is the main

32:11

center right party Angela Merkel's party Yep, then

32:14

you have two right wing and two left wing subsidiary

32:16

parties You have the left you have the linka which

32:18

was the communist former communists and the greens

32:22

and with the right side You had the

32:24

free Democrats which are basically kind of pro-business

32:26

party and this recent Alternative

32:28

for Deutschland which are kind of the

32:29

far-right nationalists now. Oh

32:32

god, are the Nazis back? Hold the hold

32:35

on. So here's the thing that term is used a

32:37

lot. Yeah Nagas Nazi,

32:39

you know, everyone's a Nazi. Rudy John is a Nazi

32:42

There's a couple of wings in this party and some

32:44

of them are not so nice and Dave

32:47

you are Jewish Yeah, okay. Maybe

32:49

they would have sterilized you I don't know point being

32:51

they have been spiking in the polls

32:54

after picking up two actual minor wins They're

32:56

now in second place at 21% there's

33:00

talk now in Germany of Everyone's

33:03

racking their brains What do we do of trying

33:05

to ban the party which

33:06

to me is completely insane first

33:08

of all who's banned political parties in Germany's past

33:11

number one, but What are those 20% of

33:13

voters gonna do they're not gonna vanish? And in fact,

33:15

there was an election original election where there

33:18

was you know, some dispute over the list So they

33:20

weren't on the ballot So another party called citizens

33:22

for rage took their place and they got 10%

33:25

which would have been the 10% Afd got so

33:27

my concern is if you ban this party first

33:30

of all the they're gonna say with a

33:32

straight face We're the only party

33:34

that the establishment hates. Yeah, which is a great vote

33:36

for them second What's

33:39

their move then they go into the main center

33:41

right party? They're in a position to take it over because they got 20%

33:43

the vote who are radicalized So what would be

33:45

like the most radical position

33:47

that they have or what's some of the rhetoric? Like

33:49

it's really like two people out of the country It's

33:51

really bad. It's like feel guilty about World War

33:53

two like the guy Bjorn.

33:54

That's the thing unlike the other so Victor

33:57

Orban from Hungary who gets announced marine

33:59

who's dad got in trouble for Holocaust denial, they

34:02

both have been distancing himself for AFD. Because

34:04

they're like, guys, this is a little too far

34:06

even for us. So, but the thing is,

34:09

as they become more radicalized, according to press

34:11

reports, their support has increased, it

34:13

hasn't decreased. Well, almost everything

34:15

that happens, well, you've written a lot about this,

34:17

but almost everything that happens on the right,

34:19

when the weird stuff arises on the right, you

34:22

don't have to look that far to figure out how insane the

34:24

left went to cause it, right? So if you were a German

34:26

right now, and you were like, well, what's happened in Germany

34:28

in the last 15 years? And I'm obviously

34:29

not an expert in Germany, but with the amount

34:32

of mass migration that came, when they literally

34:34

let in over a million people, I think around 2 million people

34:37

from all these African countries in the Middle East, they

34:39

gave them all these services, they gave them homes,

34:42

they were spending something like $4 billion on

34:44

dental work for these people, you take from

34:46

the native Germans, and then people

34:48

get pissed. Energy bills through the roof, because of Russia,

34:50

Ukraine, it's like, why is this our fight? I'm

34:53

sure for a lot of people in Germany, it's like, what are we doing here?

34:55

And then of course, the moderate, quote

34:57

unquote, moderate parties, they don't say anything that's true

34:59

or

34:59

real, they don't wanna deal with the issues, and you

35:02

could probably put a lot of this at the foot of Merkel,

35:04

right? Cause she's the one that let in all of these

35:06

people, and then she basically, remember,

35:08

what was it, like two years ago, she kind of apologized for

35:11

it? She's like, well, I guess that wasn't the best thing we

35:13

could have done, and now you got the Nazi

35:15

too. Wow, all right. This

35:18

one is the big one, and this one, we're

35:20

gonna have to talk about at some length, okay? Okay, this is the

35:22

big one. This is the big one. Trump

35:25

and 18 others were

35:28

indicted in Georgia. Oh,

35:29

so the Georgia thing, yeah. Including RICO

35:32

charges, which is a kind

35:34

of, to me, RICO

35:36

law is almost like Soviet law, cause

35:39

it can mean pretty much anything, it's used for gangsters,

35:41

predominantly.

35:42

And it's kind of like, if you two people were

35:44

talking about something

35:46

that led to a crime, it's legally

35:48

considered a conspiracy. So some of the things

35:51

in the charges were like, well,

35:53

they sat down, they rented a room to meet. That's

35:56

a conspiracy. The thing with the Georgia

35:58

law is...

35:59

is this is not something that you can

36:02

be pardoned by as the president. This

36:04

is a state indictment, number

36:06

one. Number two is if

36:08

you wanted to get pardoned, the governor in Georgia is

36:10

one of the few governors, the governor who's currently

36:12

Governor Kemp obviously, or who,

36:15

or Stacey Abrams who is another black list.

36:17

She was legitimately elected, but let's say

36:19

Kemp is the guy in charge, yeah. They have

36:21

some kind of committee,

36:23

which is currently staffed, I think, by all Republicans. They

36:26

would be the ones to make the pardon, but again, they're

36:28

not really a partisan committee

36:31

in that sense, or hearing whatever the term is.

36:34

Maybe Trump regrets going after Kemp so hard, but

36:36

you quit that aside. So this is a very big

36:38

deal, and as part of this, let me read you

36:41

out the names of the 19 people. Some

36:43

of them are not names, I don't know. President

36:47

Trump, who is going to be

36:49

arrested, I'm not joking, he's going to be arrested

36:52

Thursday

36:52

in Georgia. They

36:55

are actually saying he's going to be arrested,

36:58

I'm going down to Georgia to surrender on Thursday.

37:00

He is going to be arrested, okay? There's

37:02

questions if he's gonna have a much-shot. What a

37:04

show, what's next, he's in, yeah. We got others. John Eastman,

37:07

his attorney. Here's the other thing, as

37:09

Chris Christie knows very well, I'm not being glib

37:12

here, these prosecutors know, if

37:14

they get your lawyer to flip, that's really,

37:16

really bad. Because your attorney-client

37:19

privilege is sacrosanct in American law usually. You

37:22

tell your lawyer what you did, or like, hey, how

37:24

do we work around this? They've got the goods. So

37:26

they flipped John Eastman, he's being charged.

37:28

Wait, sorry, one question, what's the date on this? Where are we

37:30

at chronologically? Because now I'm sort of amazed, because

37:33

this is obvious, I can see why this is the big one. The charges went down

37:35

on August 14th, and they're going to

37:37

Georgia this week to turn themselves in and

37:39

be arrested. John Eastman is one of them. Here's

37:42

a name that you're gonna be very familiar to you, Mark

37:45

Meadows. You just ran into

37:47

his brother. I ran into his brother at the airport yesterday.

37:49

So Mark Meadows. I didn't talk to him, I know nothing. Oh, no, no,

37:51

no, no, no, he just went there. He just

37:52

said he likes the show. I was throwing Forrest.

37:57

Yeah, in Atlanta. Former Chief of Staff. Here's

37:59

another name. Sidney Powell, Rudy.

38:04

So my position is they've

38:06

been at it for Rudy for a long time because

38:09

he proved that you

38:11

don't have to have high crime rates and poverty

38:14

in these cities. That these cities, New

38:16

York was considered ungovernable.

38:17

He showed that when you have

38:19

these out of control cities, you guys want

38:22

this, this is by design, and they've never

38:24

forgiven him for it. He's being arrested as

38:26

well. I really love him so much. You know, I was in New

38:28

York during 9-11. Of course,

38:30

yeah. You caused it with your disgusting,

38:33

disgusting city. All right, all right, all right, not now, Michael.

38:36

But I really, you know, the last thing I did before

38:38

I went off the grid, we did our goodbye show, and then at the last

38:40

moment, he was coming to Miami, so I did a show

38:42

with him at Locals, and then I was gone for the grid. It

38:45

was the last person in this world that I

38:47

talked to, really, before Liebman was Rudy. And

38:49

I just, even if he's wrong

38:51

on some of this stuff, or whatever, I don't even

38:54

know all the specifics, he's like a good

38:56

man, and you're right, I think they're going after him for that.

38:58

It doesn't have to be this way. He's one of the people that shows

39:01

that. Do you know about the sexual harassment suit against him? No,

39:04

I don't think so. Is that new? Is

39:06

that new? Can I say the T word on the air? The

39:08

T word? You already said it. No, the other

39:10

one.

39:10

The TW? So part of the sexual harassment claim

39:13

against Rudy was that he was sexually harassing one of his

39:15

aides, or she worked for him and some staff

39:17

in some capacity. There's apparently audio that

39:19

was, there's a transcript in the filing, and

39:23

he's talking about how I love your tits, those are my

39:25

tits, and so on and so forth. So there's

39:27

another charge for Rudy as well in that regard.

39:29

You're telling me a guy likes tits? Well,

39:31

that he owns her tits. Oh, he owned them? I have

39:34

not seen said tits. All right, so who

39:36

else is in this thing? So basically what

39:38

the idea though is that they want to get all these people to flip on

39:40

Trump. Like that's pretty much it. Well, not only that, so apparently

39:42

Rudy's been flipping, they've

39:43

been pointing the finger at Sidney Powell because

39:45

the Rudy approach to 2020, it was very

39:47

different from the Sidney Powell approach. So there's been a lot of

39:49

finger, this happens all the time with Rico

39:52

charges, you get everyone together, and everyone just starts

39:54

turning the finger, I'm sorry, pointing the finger at each other,

39:56

and you can't blame them. It's like, why

39:58

am I going down with the ship when this...

39:59

lunatic did the crime when I didn't do anything. I rented

40:02

a room. Can I tell you one thing about Sidney

40:04

Powell? So I went to the White House holiday party

40:06

in 2020, so Trump

40:08

was already on his way out. But they were still

40:10

in the fight about the whole thing. And you know the

40:13

day that I knew for sure

40:15

that the election fraud stuff, at least from her

40:17

and that crew was nuts, she was at

40:19

the party. So it was the height still

40:21

of when they're like, you know, election fraud

40:24

and like all of the machines and this,

40:26

like all the crazy stuff. And she was

40:28

at the party for like five

40:29

hours. She was still there at the end of the night and

40:32

I was like, there's no way this

40:34

stuff could be real because you would not have

40:36

a moment. You would not have one

40:38

second, but she was dressed up, dolled up, hair,

40:41

blah, blah, blah. So I heard the Trump Hotel after

40:43

and I was just like, no, no, no, this makes no sense. You

40:45

can't be working on the biggest conspiracy

40:48

case of all time and hanging out

40:50

at the White House Hanukkah party. Like what

40:52

are you doing, lady? So we've got one,

40:55

two, three, five other lawyers.

40:58

I'm going to go through their names. They are not familiar to me

40:59

for them. Jeffrey Clark. I was not familiar

41:02

with him. Kenneth Cheesebrow, Ray

41:04

Smith, Robert Chesney. And here's

41:06

someone that you are quite familiar

41:08

with a certain Jenna Ellis. Wasn't

41:12

she the one who went after you publicly? Yeah, she went after me

41:15

publicly when we announced we were having kids, but she

41:17

actually personally apologized to me. Oh, that's

41:19

good to know. Yeah. And I accepted her apology and

41:21

we're good on that. I can't speak to her legal

41:24

expertise or that sort of thing. David Shafer,

41:26

who was former chairman of the GOP, Georgia

41:28

State Senator Sean Still and three other

41:29

names. And of course, President Trump is the 19th person.

41:33

And he's looking at, I think it's something

41:35

like 700 years with all these charges. I

41:38

mean, doesn't it seem to you that they're just going to keep, I don't

41:40

know if there's anything else still in the docket because it seemed like

41:42

Georgia was the big one. But OK, so a DC one

41:44

I missed on August 1st. Now you're telling me the George one, which

41:47

we knew was coming. But haven't they already said

41:49

that the first the trial for the federal

41:51

case, isn't it in its next

41:54

April or something? They wanted. So it's like right

41:56

before Super Tuesday. It's like they want all

41:58

of this shit to make.

41:59

everyone crazy. So Alan Dershowitz, who you've had him

42:02

on your show, Alan Dershowitz, who's obviously worked with

42:04

Trump, he's hardly some kind of Dr.

42:06

Nair Republican. No, he's a lifelong

42:08

Democrat. So he's made the point

42:10

publicly that he believes that

42:13

he will get some convictions, that

42:15

they will be overturned, but those

42:17

overturns will happen after the election, so they're

42:20

going to get what they want ahead of time. My-

42:23

Yeah, he could still run while being convicted. Correct.

42:27

There's a lot of talk in MAGA how

42:29

this is

42:29

a great thing for President Trump, and

42:32

this is 4D Chess. I got to tell you, Karen

42:34

is a big swing vote. Karen

42:37

doesn't like voting for felons. And

42:39

I agree that this will have his base

42:42

double down and be like, this guy's being persecuted.

42:45

But we forget that the average voter- They're

42:47

just sick of it. Yeah, they can't take it. And they also

42:49

don't follow politics. And if they see a mugshot, for

42:51

a lot of people, that's enough to be like, I'm not going

42:54

to either not going to vote for him or I'm

42:56

just going to vote for the opponent. You know, I'll tell you the number one thing

42:58

that people said to me when they- How am I not spending

42:59

a surprise to myself? In the rainforest,

43:02

at the resort, or when I've seen people at the airport or at the supermarket

43:04

for the last month, everyone says the same

43:06

thing to me. A lot of people are saying, oh, it's crazy, it's

43:08

crazy, but I would always calm them down so that they didn't ruin

43:11

it. But the other thing that they always say is like, I'm

43:13

so sick of it. I'm so sick of it. And

43:15

I think that's partly what the machine wants. It wants

43:18

you to be so sick of it that you just freaking

43:20

wave the white flag and you're just

43:22

like, all right, we'll take the worst of

43:24

the worst because- Well,

43:25

also it's not them. It's that they might want to

43:27

have Trump wave the white flag

43:29

and be like, okay, I'm not going to run and

43:31

this all goes away. That's not, I'm sure there's

43:33

talks- Do you think it would be that simple actually?

43:36

That is a conspiracy version of this, that they just want

43:38

to drug him down into- I'm going to

43:40

say something to you. Let's talk this out. Yeah.

43:43

Because I know you love to talk about the left and the left.

43:45

I don't think the left is a monolith. Okay.

43:48

I think Nancy Pelosi is not the same as AOC. I

43:51

think Nancy Pelosi and Biden

43:53

did a far better job of shutting up Bernie Sanders

43:55

and AOC than the Republicans ever did. Because

43:57

you don't hear about the squad anymore. Someone sat them down.

44:00

and be like, you're making us look bad, and they vanish them.

44:02

I think there is a big

44:04

dispute behind closed

44:06

doors in

44:08

the left, so to speak. Do

44:10

we want Trump to go to jail?

44:12

Or do we want him as the nominee?

44:14

Right. Because we think,

44:17

we thought this before, that he'd

44:19

be an easy defeat and down

44:21

votes would devastate him. Have you

44:23

seen the, there's a compilation video

44:25

that we played a few days before I went off the grid

44:28

where it's all these people on The View and MSNBC

44:30

and CNN, everybody saying basically,

44:33

oh, we want Trump to be the nominee. Joy Behar,

44:35

we want Trump to be the nominee. Joy Reed,

44:37

we want people to be, everyone named Joy is

44:40

a complete lunatic, by the way. You ever notice that? If these people

44:42

named Joy, they're always the most joyless. Bill O'Reilly had that

44:44

joke when he's on The View, he goes, how's your name Joy? You sit

44:46

there like this, he's like, oh, that's good, that's good. And

44:48

by the way, I also wanna point out to all the Nazis watching

44:51

this, Joy Behar's Italian. So stop,

44:53

we're not, she's not our fault. Yeah, that's funny.

44:55

It's true. Oh, right, because everyone thinks she's Jewish, but she's

44:58

actually Italian. Stop kidding her on us.

45:01

But the thing about the Trump, and it's

45:03

like, do they want it to happen so that he's in

45:05

jail, or do you want him to be the nominee thing is, my

45:08

argument for DeSantis, beyond all of the

45:10

reasons that I think he is good, he actually

45:13

can bring in new people. There's no people

45:15

that Trump can bring, who's the

45:17

new person that's suddenly like, I'm

45:19

voting for Trump now. So if you think the

45:21

election- What about the staff?

45:22

Like, why would you, here's the question. No, and then

45:25

who's gonna work for him? Who's gonna work for him? Here's

45:27

the thing. It's just true, it's just true. Let's

45:29

suppose this is something that MAGA has to come to

45:31

terms with, and I'm not saying you shouldn't support Trump

45:33

or should, because I'm an anarchist, that's for anyone. Why

45:36

would I, as someone who has a

45:38

long- It must be nice being an anarchist. You can do this all

45:40

day long, and at the end be like, but you guys

45:42

can all go eff yourselves. And I don't have to sweat

45:44

for some reason. I have

45:46

a long career, I've made a name for myself, I've got

45:49

a wife, I've got a kids, I've got a family, so on and so

45:51

forth, husband and kids and family. Why

45:53

would I work for this guy- Yes. When

45:56

I'm gonna be charged as his lawyer with RICO charges,

45:58

possibly disbarred.

45:59

My name is going to be ruined in perpetuity,

46:02

and then if I quit on fire, he's going to go on Tro

46:04

essential and call me an idiot. This

46:07

is something that MAGA has to grapple

46:09

with. Why would the people who he would want to have

46:11

his administration put themselves through that? And

46:13

it's not his

46:14

fault to some extent, but it's still a concern.

46:16

You know, the kill shot on that one for me

46:18

was the Kaylee McEnany attack.

46:21

Remember that? Yes. It was like, what was that? Probably beginning

46:23

of July, maybe sometime in June, when he

46:25

just went off on her for not even

46:27

doing much of anything. She just kind of said that she

46:29

likes a lot of what DeSantis is doing. She

46:32

wasn't the best of the best. When

46:34

I said the evil party and the stupid party

46:36

before, the Republicans usually put out these like stupid

46:38

fake plastic. She was so freaking

46:41

good. Height of COVID in that briefing

46:43

room, fighting with everybody. A pro,

46:46

like everyone likes her. Young mom,

46:48

like good woman. You know, I know her a bit personally,

46:50

like, are they coming for

46:52

us? Did you hear that? Something's happening out there. And

46:56

that was the one where I think, if you were

46:58

on the fence of like, maybe I could work for

47:00

Trump or something like that, it's like, how do you do

47:02

it? Yeah, that's just something they have to come to grips

47:04

with.

47:06

Wayne Brady came out as pansexual. Wayne,

47:10

wait, Wayne Brady? What's my line? Not

47:12

Tom Brady. Not Tom Brady, Wayne Lane Brady. Whoa,

47:15

Wayne Brady, the black guy. Black guy

47:18

does a lot of voices and stuff. Why is

47:20

your staff addressing me? I specifically. He specifically

47:22

said, don't address it. Do not address me. Wayne

47:25

Brady came out as pansexual. So that's

47:27

why he likes to have sex with pans. And

47:29

pots. And pots. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

47:31

What does that even mean? So I think that means you

47:34

have sex with, because you can't say bisexual

47:36

anymore.

47:36

Because that implies to the binary.

47:39

So pansexual meat. Listen, I always

47:41

thought he was gay or something. Like he was one of these,

47:43

like, he's like one of these guys, you know? That's

47:45

let's, let's keep the comophobia to

47:47

a minimum. You freaking Nazi. Sorry,

47:50

sorry. Come on. This is two hours.

47:52

Wayne Brady. From America's favorite Nazi,

47:54

Dave Rubin. Does anyone care about these things anywhere?

47:57

Like, is there, was there anyone in America? So Wayne

47:59

Brady, a Washington.

47:59

up. He's not watching. Hold on. This is what

48:02

I would guess. Yeah. I would guess that

48:04

someone has receipts of him with

48:07

a transgender woman. So he came

48:09

out to be. Oh, clever. And no, no,

48:11

if he wants to more power to you, Mr. Brady, I don't

48:13

care. You ever see the meme? It's a two picture

48:16

meme of a girl. You only see her sitting

48:18

at a table at a restaurant and she says,

48:20

I'm pansexual. And then the next panel

48:23

is just her with a giant pan in her mouth. Okay.

48:28

We're off to August 14th.

48:29

Yeah. I could see

48:32

cast iron maybe, but just a regular

48:34

pan,

48:35

like a nonstick pan. Janet Yellen,

48:37

who, what the one thing I like about Janet

48:40

Yellen, I'm from Brooklyn all my life. People

48:42

don't have that accent anymore. Like it's

48:44

a no, I know. I know. I know. I'm like, we

48:47

must preserve this as much as we can. Even as much

48:49

as I hate Bernie. It's a little, I can deal with a

48:51

little bit. She admitted

48:53

that when she was in China,

48:55

China, she had

48:58

psychedelic mushrooms. Wait,

49:01

like now or what?

49:04

Yeah. Janet Yellen. Yeah.

49:07

She was tripping face, buddy.

49:08

Janet Yellen.

49:11

You know, in the rainforest, I did a little rattlesnake poison.

49:14

I microdosed on rattlesnake poison, but we'll, that's

49:16

a story for another day. You did

49:18

rattlesnake? It was rattlesnake venom in

49:20

the specialized tequila. Okay. Different story. Uh,

49:24

what?

49:25

Yeah.

49:26

Intentionally? I don't remember if it

49:28

was intentionally, it wasn't a big deal. It was just like, okay,

49:30

I took it. I don't think it was

49:32

really solid. While now, while she's

49:34

ahead of the fit. I think it was some kind of cultural

49:37

thing there to kind of get you like buzzed. It

49:39

wasn't like she was like tripping face and naked on the beach or

49:41

whatever. Right. I mean, I have no problem with someone doing

49:43

mushrooms, but I guess that we have problem with her

49:45

big naked on the beach. Tripping is transitory.

49:47

So, you know, like inflation. Um,

49:50

this is a big one. This is not funny.

49:53

It's, it's very sad. There's a huge, uh,

49:55

a wildfire

49:56

in Maui. Uh, over a hundred people are

49:58

dead. It's been going on. for quite

50:00

a bit. Apparently there was some drama

50:02

about releasing water in terms of equity

50:05

and that made the situation worse. Biden

50:08

finally came to visit after a long time. People

50:10

were cursing him out. The scenes

50:12

are horrific. Wow, a hundred

50:14

people dead in a fire. Yeah and it's

50:17

been going on. It's been really really

50:19

bad and it's just like that. There's

50:21

nothing you can really say but it's like your heart obviously goes

50:23

out to the Hawaiian people and it's just awful. Oh

50:26

yeah, well I am sorry to hear about that.

50:28

That's not funny at all.

50:29

Okay so August, we're up to August.

50:32

We're almost caught up. Wow we're almost there man. Okay

50:35

we're only an hour in. Okay we're going to have a lot to talk about.

50:38

So part of the debates tonight

50:41

you had to sign a loyalty oath.

50:44

Trump refused to do so. So

50:46

tonight he is going to be releasing

50:48

I think a pre-taped interview with

50:51

Tucker Carlson as counter programming

50:54

and I want to hear your thoughts about why this could

50:56

be a good move for him and why it could be a bad move.

50:58

I could see either way right? Right so

51:01

first off as far as the pledge I mean

51:03

he may just be using it's a ploy one way

51:05

or another right like it's a ploy. I don't think

51:07

it is a ploy. Let me hold on. We remember

51:10

in 2016 during the debates the 2016

51:11

season that was like the first question

51:14

I think it was about him yeah who

51:16

asked yeah is there anyone here who will not

51:18

agree to support

51:18

the nominee and Trump was the only one who

51:21

raised his hand he told I mean the others were lying because

51:23

they didn't support him and he goes I don't

51:25

I can't I don't know what some of these guys stand for I can't say I'm gonna

51:27

admit to support them yeah um

51:29

Trump is now very fairly saying it's like look

51:32

if Chris Christie's the nominee this guy can't

51:34

get my name out of his mouth why would I be supporting

51:36

him I can't commit to that so well of course

51:38

the argument against that though is that in essence then you're

51:40

you're basically voting for a Democrat you're supporting

51:43

a Democrat so right if you don't push the base

51:45

to vote even if it was Chris Christie who's a big nothing

51:47

and obviously will be out after tonight but

51:50

like you then in essence are saying

51:52

okay let's have a Democrat president that that's the

51:54

argument against the the base version of that when

51:56

I say it's a ploy what I mean really though is

51:58

that it's a ploy in that

51:59

if he did not want to debate, because

52:02

he does not want to be up there tonight, because

52:05

he's number one, and he wants, and what he really

52:07

wants, and I don't know what the numbers are, maybe you can tell me what the latest

52:09

numbers are, like if what he really wants

52:11

is everyone to attack DeSantis, which is what's gonna

52:14

happen tonight, and he'll unleash Vivec on DeSantis,

52:16

and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If

52:18

that's what he really wants, then that seems

52:20

like a good play, like you just sit out of it, and

52:23

I'm bigger than everybody, like there's, you know, it's machinations,

52:25

and the guy's a TV star, you know, the only reality

52:28

show I've ever watched in my entire life,

52:29

literally, literally, was Celebrity Apprentice.

52:32

So this is the type of thing that he does, right? This is a funny

52:35

story, the, this is also not

52:37

a joke, the first part of this is not a joke, the

52:40

women in Real Housewives, that very

52:42

successful, very powerful franchise, Bethany

52:45

Frankel, who's the, Yeah, I remember them, I, yeah.

52:47

and a bunch of them, they are thinking of unionizing, and

52:50

I suggested that the, That's the funniest fucking thing I've

52:52

ever heard of, man. but yes,

52:54

they're actually thinking of unionizing. That's hilarious. And

52:58

then Andy Cohen will have to come out as the

53:00

anti-union guy, you know, the good

53:02

hero, you know, good guy. But

53:04

let's talk about the debate dynamics, because I think this

53:06

is something that bears a lot of breaking

53:09

down. DeSantis has been

53:11

slipping heavily in the polls. Okay.

53:15

I, you know a lot of people on the campaign,

53:17

and a lot of his surrogates. In

53:20

my experience and opinion, I

53:22

know people on the campaign, I've invited

53:25

them on my show, I had you on my show, you

53:27

made the case for DeSantis, I asked you

53:29

questions, the critical questions, you answered

53:31

them adroitly, they were not offensive. They're

53:34

kind of not doing a lot of like

53:36

podcasts and things like this, which I think is

53:39

a huge mistake. Is he still, so when I left,

53:41

he had just done Russell Brand, which was great.

53:44

He had just done Megyn Kelly. He

53:46

had done a few more. But he's got a lot of, like he's,

53:49

what's her name? Christina.

53:52

Christina, who's superb. She's not, She hasn't been out there,

53:54

yeah. To me, was such a great spokesperson.

53:56

She's not out there as much as I would like her to

53:58

be. Interesting.

53:59

At the same time, you have people like

54:02

Bill Mitchell, who are trying to, can we

54:04

have the clip from Bill? Oh no. I

54:06

look like an aging lesbian. Okay,

54:10

and he just recently debated Laura

54:12

Loomer on Simpool, and Laura

54:14

just completely eviscer, because she's a human chainsaw.

54:18

Right, these people though, like Bill Mitchell,

54:20

Laura Loomer, like, they're in the same. Here's

54:23

my point, if you're

54:24

the DeSantis campaign, why

54:26

is Bill Mitchell the guy who you're sending

54:29

out? Did they send him out? I doubt he is. I

54:31

didn't send him out. But you mean why is, because if you're not sending

54:33

out your people, then you're gonna get these other people. I was on Tim,

54:35

and Tim Poole said explicitly, I have, Tim

54:38

has a very fair show, he's got people on the left,

54:40

people on the right, you've done it, I'm sure. Yeah, yeah. He's

54:43

like, anyone from the Stannis campaign, come out

54:45

here, he's, I'm for Trump, but you'll have

54:47

a fair hearing, it's free TV. Well, I think

54:49

I have a thing in DC around middle

54:51

of September, and I just spoke to Tim yesterday about something

54:53

else, and I'm gonna, I'll try to get out there, and

54:56

I'll gladly do it. But yes, it should not be me,

54:58

I'm not a surrogate for the campaign, or paid

55:00

or anything, I happen to think he's the best candidate. But am I, so

55:03

is that fair to say that, so the polls have changed a little bit, is

55:05

that what you're telling me? So here's what's been happening, is that

55:07

Trump's. And then I'll try to hit that point a little bit more, that

55:09

you're asking about. So basically, DeSantis has

55:11

been kinda nose diving a lot. The

55:13

vague, as the kinda Trump without

55:15

the drama candidate, it has been surging a

55:18

bit. And in my. That's

55:20

sort of consistent to where July ended up. But

55:23

it's been continuing the trajectory. But what

55:25

I think is gonna be interesting tonight, I'm gonna

55:26

strongly disagree with you, when

55:29

you say that Chris Christie's gonna be over tonight, Chris

55:31

Christie, I love using

55:33

all the puns with him, really punched

55:35

above his weight in 2016. Because I

55:37

think you might remember, he was the one who broke

55:39

Marco Rubio, because Marco Rubio was saying,

55:42

Barack Obama, don't act like Barack Obama does, nobody's

55:44

doing, he knows exactly what he's doing. Chris Christie goes,

55:46

Marco, you're just coming here with these panned

55:48

lines, and just repeating them. And Rubio just

55:51

repeated the lines twice in a row. And Chris

55:53

is like, look at him, he's like a robot. So

55:55

he has been very articulate

55:59

in the. anti-Trump case

56:01

in that he's been speaking... here's the thing,

56:03

I bring this up all the time,

56:06

I wish I could remember the pundit who made this point

56:08

in 2015-16 because it was a brilliant point which

56:11

was, Christie's whole shtick is

56:13

on the obnoxious loudmouth New Yorker

56:16

who ruffles Democrats' feathers and says things

56:18

that no one else will say and you know

56:20

gets elected as a result. Trump comes in

56:22

and Christie's like, what's my lane? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he

56:24

was really good at that window. Then his

56:27

Jersey mafia instead of New York mafia.

56:29

He also put away Jared Kushner's dad.

56:31

You know people don't remember this, look it up. He put

56:33

him away because Jared Kushner's dad tricked

56:36

his own brother, secretly videotaped

56:39

him with a prostitute. Look this up,

56:40

it sounds, it's just complete crazy stuff. So there's

56:42

a lot of animosity between the Kushner family

56:45

and the Christie and Chris Christie, although one

56:47

of the Kushner's donated Christie's campaign,

56:49

Murray or Murray Morey, I forgot his name

56:51

just recently, a minor Kushner figure. Point

56:53

being, Chris Christie has been making the

56:55

point, Trump's a loser, we

56:57

lost the midterms, we

57:00

lost 2020, this guy's

57:02

a guaranteed loser, felony, and

57:04

as a former prosecutor, he knows Rico

57:06

is no joke. This is something that's very ambiguous

57:09

law.

57:10

So I think he's the

57:11

one people shouldn't sleep on tonight. That's interesting.

57:14

So my sleeper, I don't like it, I'm not saying I like

57:16

it. Yeah, no, I got it. My sleeper all along

57:18

has been Nicky because I think the more that the craziness

57:21

get ramped up, I know you definitely disagree

57:23

with her on foreign policy for sure. And

57:25

I have some disagreements, which I've discussed with her on

57:27

the show not too long ago, but I think she

57:29

will consistently be seen as sort of like

57:32

the sane middle person in all the fighting

57:34

and she will kind of, people won't want to attack her

57:36

as much. So I think she's the dark horse. The

57:38

thing with Christie, we also know that

57:41

unlike her former boss, she's

57:43

not gonna vanish in the wilderness to scissor her mistress

57:45

for a few days, God knows where. That was funny.

57:48

I got it, scissor her mistress, that was good. But

57:51

the thing with Christie is you might be right that he

57:53

might have a nice moment up here tonight. Like he could just maybe

57:56

hit the Santas out of nowhere or something

57:58

like that. But it depends what the, I don't what

58:00

all the all the qualifications

58:02

are for the subsequent debates. Right

58:04

now we know it was the 40,000 individual donors

58:06

and all that. He just doesn't have any real support

58:08

so he might have some might. He's like in second

58:10

or third in New Hampshire. The the

58:13

criterion for the debate, listen if what's his name?

58:15

BOGRAM? How far did he make it? BOGRAM? If BOGRAM

58:17

doesn't make it tonight I don't know how I can continue. My

58:19

point is if you have Asa Hutchinson making these debates

58:23

and I really think it would look very... Doesn't that

58:25

feel made up like they let BOGRAM and Asa hold

58:28

on but you remember in 2016 they

58:29

had to have the kids table remember that weren't there literally 17 candidates?

58:33

Oh right. So it behooves the Republican

58:35

Party to have the criterion

58:37

be fairly low because they don't

58:39

want to look like the DNC where it's just like look

58:41

we're just gonna jean it for Hillary. So

58:43

they eight people I don't think is a crazy number

58:46

to have on that stage. No no no eight is a perfectly

58:48

good number for a first debate. I have to say though

58:50

the Larry Elder thing just personally is disappointing

58:52

to me because his message is good and maybe

58:55

Tim Scott will share some of that message but

58:58

that's kind of disappointing but Christie I just

58:59

don't know where the people that are going to come out

59:02

and support him really are

59:04

but I think you're right for television purposes

59:06

or for the hit the punch the body

59:08

slam so to speak yeah he might do something

59:10

He's going to be a real heavyweight debater. I

59:13

also think that the knives are out for the

59:15

vague.

59:16

Interesting. He's been really overperforming.

59:19

He's been doing... he just had a big beef

59:21

this morning he was on Caitlin Collins

59:23

show on CNN he went back

59:25

and forth with her claiming he was taken out of context.

59:28

The Atlantic in an Atlantic

59:30

interview. The Atlantic released the audio

59:32

of the interview this morning this is breaking today but

59:35

he's been making a lot of waves. He's

59:37

been taken out of context for what? So basically

59:39

he had this point about 9-11 about how like look we

59:42

don't know the whole story

59:44

so and so forth here's the whole thing let's talk about

59:46

this. You know how the corporate press

59:48

works which is if you say we

59:50

don't know the whole story about 9-11 it can range anything

59:53

from missiles hit the twin towers to

59:56

the following which is undisputedly true there

59:58

were pages redacted.

59:59

from the 9-11 report, maybe

1:00:02

justifiably, but the point is the government

1:00:04

has kept certain things from the public,

1:00:06

maybe they had to, but the point is it's

1:00:09

literally impossible to say we know everything. Right,

1:00:11

of course. Maybe we should know everything because then the terrorists

1:00:13

are gonna know what we know. It's a meta argument

1:00:15

about whether states should have any secrets at all. So

1:00:18

this kind of blew up, I

1:00:20

don't have the exact details 100%, but

1:00:23

they've been going back and forth, but he's been doing

1:00:25

the Trump thing, something which I adore,

1:00:28

he understands that

1:00:29

the enemy isn't necessarily, from his

1:00:32

perspective, the Democratic Party, it

1:00:34

is the media who is doing their dirty

1:00:36

work for them. So they've been going back and forth this

1:00:38

morning. Well, interesting, so tonight we're

1:00:40

doing the post-debate show from right here, and

1:00:43

I think we're working on it, but it

1:00:45

looks like we'll probably have the governor and Nikki and

1:00:47

Vivek and a few of the others that'll come up here. Vivek,

1:00:49

right after. You know, I got into a beef

1:00:51

with him in July. That's right, I remember

1:00:54

that, I have to add that. Oh, you did, right.

1:00:56

He was relentlessly going after DeSantis, refusing to

1:00:58

go after Trump, and he kept saying that DeSantis

1:00:59

signed a hate speech law in

1:01:02

Florida, and it was not a hate speech law, it was a property

1:01:04

rights law, and I went through all

1:01:06

the little bullet points of it, it was

1:01:08

about property rights, there's nothing that

1:01:10

you can't say in Ohio, where

1:01:12

he's, that you can say in Ohio where he's from. I texted

1:01:14

you that you were a filthy lessee, just

1:01:17

to prove that I would not get in trouble. And

1:01:19

I stand by that statement. But the point is, it's not a hate

1:01:21

speech law, because there's nothing that you can say in

1:01:24

Ohio that you can't say in Florida, but I will ask

1:01:26

him about that tonight, so you kept saying it was a hate,

1:01:29

and by the way, we agreed to shelve it, and Laura

1:01:31

Ingram on Fox, one or two nights before I went

1:01:33

off the grid, she played a clip of me and tried

1:01:35

to get him to go after me, and he

1:01:37

basically took the high road, and I immediately texted

1:01:40

him after, I said, look, you took the high road, I'll take the high road,

1:01:42

I tweeted it out, we'll work it out,

1:01:44

I don't think you're evil, I disagreed with you on

1:01:46

that thing, and I'll be happy to talk about it with him here tonight.

1:01:48

There's been a lot of oppo- But look, if he starts going

1:01:50

up, you're gonna get the hits. That's

1:01:52

how it works. There's been a lot of oppo opposition

1:01:55

research dropping against him, there was a clip, please

1:01:58

double check me on this, I'm not 100%.

1:01:59

where he has come out and supposedly, please

1:02:02

double check me, in favor of the inheritance

1:02:04

tax, saying something to the effect that, you know, just

1:02:06

because you're wealthy, your kids shouldn't

1:02:08

have that big advantage. Again, for

1:02:11

the Republican Party, that seems crazy. He's

1:02:13

obviously extremely wealthy, more power to him. Miners,

1:02:16

you know, he's earned that money. But for

1:02:18

me and many other people, even Whoopi Goldberg,

1:02:21

of all people, this is years ago, she's like, it's a

1:02:23

complete non-starter. I pay my income

1:02:25

taxes, this is my money. Like, what are you talking about?

1:02:27

It's such a criminal thing, and it should, you

1:02:29

know,

1:02:29

what do they call it? So sometimes they call it the estate

1:02:32

tax, the wealth tax, or the death

1:02:34

tax. But it really is, it really

1:02:36

is criminal if you think about it. It does not matter whether

1:02:38

you think poor people should have more money or anything else.

1:02:41

The idea that after you've done everything right

1:02:43

your whole life, you pay into the system, you do

1:02:45

all of that, you should have every right

1:02:47

to leave your money that has been taxed all

1:02:49

along the way to whoever you want, that the government

1:02:52

will just be like, yes, we're taking 40% of that, by

1:02:54

the way, to throw it to give Ukraine

1:02:56

more bombs or to build more houses that,

1:02:58

you know, million dollars

1:02:59

towards it. It's even worse than that, because this comes out of the

1:03:02

1890s, early 1900s, progressivism, where

1:03:04

their whole idea is no one should

1:03:06

have advantages early on in life. Yeah,

1:03:09

it's horrible. So if they had their way, it would be 100%, because

1:03:11

that everyone should be starting off equally, which is completely

1:03:13

ridiculous. Well, except for them. Well, someone

1:03:16

who's smarter or taller or whatever are gonna have some advantages,

1:03:18

someone with better nutrition. Right. They're gonna have

1:03:20

to hit a lot of smart kids with a hammer. Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1:03:22

So I think it's a lot. That's interesting

1:03:24

about him. Please ask him about that. Yeah, I will. I

1:03:27

don't want to be misquoting him right there. I will, I will.

1:03:29

Oh, wait, sorry, but just last point on that. So you're saying his reaction

1:03:32

to it has been to just basically

1:03:34

fight the media, sort of do the Trump version of that.

1:03:37

Yes, and he called Caitlin Collins. He said it on CNN

1:03:39

last night. He's like, look, you guys misquote

1:03:41

people, take things out of context all the time. This

1:03:44

is how you guys operate. I, you know, this started,

1:03:46

I think, one of the earliest moments of

1:03:49

this was in 2012, when

1:03:51

I forget the guy's name, the huge job from CNN, John

1:03:55

King. John King, he had New King Richard on in

1:03:57

the presidential debate. And the first question...

1:03:59

and he asked Newt Gingrich, former speaker of the house,

1:04:02

is, is it true that when

1:04:04

you had your first divorce, you

1:04:06

had asked your wife at one point for an open marriage?

1:04:09

And Newt Gingrich goes, we're

1:04:11

deciding the next president. First

1:04:14

of all, it's false, but for you to ask this

1:04:16

is very close to despicable. I think those

1:04:18

are Newt's words. Gingrich was pretty good at that. And

1:04:21

then in,

1:04:22

I think it was 2016, it was Ted Cruz

1:04:24

who was just like, you're asking me us to

1:04:27

fight against each other, online gambling.

1:04:29

These aren't the questions, America, what is wrong with you people? And

1:04:31

after that, the Republicans said they would never

1:04:33

do another debate with what I think was CNBC

1:04:36

or MSNBC who was hosting, I think was CNBC. Point

1:04:39

being, it's been a very effective

1:04:41

and in my personal opinion, correct strategy

1:04:44

for the Republicans to be like, these guys

1:04:46

have an agenda and it's important to

1:04:48

call them out on it instead of just pretending these

1:04:50

are objective questions. Look, although I've been

1:04:52

obviously somewhat frustrated by Trump for the last couple

1:04:54

of months, like I fully give him credit for that. He

1:04:57

red-pilled more people than any of us

1:04:59

ever could, me and you for the rest of our lives,

1:05:01

screaming about it and everyone we know.

1:05:03

He red-pilled people about fake news

1:05:06

and what? Only Rosie O'Donnell. What?

1:05:09

You don't remember that? The first debate? Oh, that

1:05:11

she, yeah. What was it that, what was the line? You

1:05:14

call women pigs, only Rosie O'Donnell. Yeah,

1:05:16

yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, poor, Rosie and I used

1:05:18

to be close too and I had to unfollow her on Twitter because she,

1:05:20

he broke her and I was just like, I unfollowed

1:05:22

her out of pity in a way because it was like, I just

1:05:25

don't want to hate you. So I'm just gonna- Hold on.

1:05:28

If your high school bully

1:05:30

became president, you'd lose

1:05:32

your mind too. I said- So she gets

1:05:34

a pass. I said to Bill Maher on his podcast, Your

1:05:36

Trump Derangement Syndrome, I give you a pass because he goes

1:05:38

after you personally. If Trump every day

1:05:40

was like Dave Rubens and rah, rah, rah. You

1:05:43

know, whatever. Wait, do you have anything else on DeSantis?

1:05:45

Otherwise I just want to address that point a little harder.

1:05:48

The point about the surrogates and all that, you know, one of

1:05:50

the- There's one point about DeSantis. Okay, so I can

1:05:52

say that for now. It's a minor one, basically

1:05:54

he had a big campaign shakeup. So it was a

1:05:57

public acknowledgement that things aren't where they

1:05:59

should be.

1:05:59

And I have to say, from my personal perspective, I

1:06:02

have been at this a long time, you and I both have,

1:06:04

I have never in my lifetime seen

1:06:07

as much of a

1:06:08

sea change in terms of perception

1:06:11

of a candidate from DeSantis, who

1:06:13

in October of 2022,

1:06:15

I think every Trump voter would say,

1:06:17

this is the greatest government we've ever seen. And

1:06:21

then the day after he announces, well, he's another Jeb

1:06:23

Bush. I've never seen such a switch in my

1:06:25

life. You know, Charlie Kirk and I did a, did you

1:06:27

see any of it? Charlie Kirk and I did

1:06:29

an interview on his show right before I went off the grid, where we

1:06:31

got into it about that. And he kept saying, you know, you just

1:06:33

don't turn on the base. You don't turn on the base. And

1:06:35

I basically said to Charlie, you know, name one thing

1:06:37

DeSantis has done wrong, who was the best on co,

1:06:39

but I got him to say all the nice things about, about

1:06:43

DeSantis. I said, do you think he has anything

1:06:45

to do with, what's his name, Paul

1:06:47

Ryan or Karl Rove and Charlie

1:06:49

Soros? It's all, it's, they all know

1:06:51

it's all made up. And actually one of the things

1:06:54

I was thinking off the grid as I was purging a lot

1:06:56

of the thoughts, this thing that you're mentioning

1:06:58

that the guy DeSantis went from, wow,

1:07:00

this is the guy who won the state by 20 points. He's

1:07:02

the standard bearer of everything we've all wanted

1:07:04

out of a Republican, good young family

1:07:07

man in the military, lawyer

1:07:09

crushing his opponents, turning Florida, which

1:07:11

was basically blue and then purple now to the most

1:07:13

red state in the nation. This is the best guy

1:07:15

we got. And one thought that I did have constantly

1:07:18

over the break, sort of like philosophically

1:07:20

is that Trump did do something with a very

1:07:23

dark power here. If you can take

1:07:25

the guy that everyone thought was the best,

1:07:27

was the successor, you know, all of that stuff, and

1:07:30

now you can make the base hate him purely

1:07:32

on lies. That was the point. It's purely

1:07:34

on lies. I'm not, I'm not telling you he's perfect. I

1:07:37

disagree with him on the abortion thing, for example. But

1:07:39

like

1:07:39

everyone knows, even the people that are being critical

1:07:42

of him know that this is, this is the best candidate

1:07:44

right now. Like in a holistic sense, I really

1:07:46

believe that. But Trump

1:07:48

turned a huge amount of people against him. That's a

1:07:50

very dark power to have if you

1:07:52

do it all based on lies, saying he's working with

1:07:54

Soros, saying he's friends with

1:07:57

Paul Ryan, who Trump had far more to do with Paul

1:07:59

Ryan, all those things.

1:07:59

Don't you view that as like a do you

1:08:02

see what I'm saying? Like there's a dark energy to that if you

1:08:04

can just manufacture a hatred

1:08:06

of somebody that's dangerous I'm gonna

1:08:09

disagree a little bit. Yeah Kind

1:08:11

of you can just realize it Yeah, every Republican

1:08:15

is going to have to face this because literally

1:08:17

whoever the nominee is going to be portrayed as Hitler

1:08:19

literally Hitler Right sure. So if you but the fact that it

1:08:21

came from Trump not from the media My point

1:08:24

is as well and the media as the Republican

1:08:26

or even a prominent Republican You are going

1:08:28

to have to know that

1:08:29

they're there's not going to be anything that

1:08:32

depth that they won't sink a good example Of this

1:08:34

which you happen way before you went on your

1:08:36

sabbatical is His wife

1:08:38

had cancer. I think she's yeah better now. Thank

1:08:41

God Yeah, he took a day off no one knew

1:08:43

where he was because she had cancer treatments

1:08:45

and there are articles being like oh your wife Has

1:08:47

cancer where you should step down and it's just like yeah,

1:08:49

completely shameless completely despicable To

1:08:52

just a really nasty low blow the point is you

1:08:54

knew you're going after Trump, right? If you're gonna

1:08:57

announce you knew who you're facing Trump is not

1:08:59

a mysterious secret at this point You know exactly

1:09:01

you're going up against so you as

1:09:03

the campaign, you know, he's going

1:09:06

to hit you high He's gonna hit you low. He's

1:09:08

gonna go after everything. Nothing's gonna be held sacred.

1:09:10

It is your responsibility

1:09:12

As the campaign

1:09:14

to be ready for that Yeah, and to have

1:09:16

a counter punch and to be able to

1:09:18

not let your opponents define you And

1:09:21

he's been doing his campaign has done a very bad job I

1:09:24

think that's a fully fair critique

1:09:26

and look I think I've probably been again

1:09:28

I'm not a surrogate and that I'm not on the campaign or paid

1:09:30

or anything like that But I'm just telling people what I believe

1:09:32

to be true I think I've probably done

1:09:35

a better job than virtually everyone associated

1:09:37

with them I'm just saying again what I think

1:09:39

is right and true But the

1:09:42

idea that yes, maybe you stepped into this

1:09:44

not realizing that he was going to go to

1:09:46

the gates of hell to destroy you I

1:09:48

just think I guess I guess that naive that the Santa's

1:09:51

is not that naive the Santa's a very bright man No,

1:09:53

no or or they didn't strategize it right?

1:09:55

Right? Okay, so that they were like, okay. Well, we're going against

1:09:57

Trump We know that if he's going after Kayla

1:09:59

and you're gonna challenge her nomination,

1:10:02

he's going after you. And he's going for the chocolat. But what do you

1:10:04

think about what I said about just, I just mean this philosophically,

1:10:06

that Trump is using something that

1:10:09

we all hate the media for. We all hate

1:10:11

the media for its endless lies and that it can turn

1:10:13

good people into bad people and it can

1:10:16

literally just 180 the truth all the time. And

1:10:18

you, I quote you every day on my show, the

1:10:20

corporate press is the enemy of the people. That's

1:10:22

a dark power. And Trump is also using

1:10:24

just the other version of that dark power, the

1:10:27

other side of the coin on that. And

1:10:29

I guess that,

1:10:29

I don't know, maybe I'm like, I

1:10:32

don't know, maybe I've been off the grid so politics is like. But

1:10:34

here's the thing, we remember when he was just like,

1:10:36

Ted Cruz, your dad. I know, we all let

1:10:38

it go. There were a lot of questions about the JFK assassination,

1:10:40

Ted Cruz, like what the hell are you talking about? No, he basically

1:10:43

said Ted Cruz's dad killed JFK. All

1:10:46

of the crazy stuff. And then he became president, maybe he knew the truth.

1:10:48

Maybe he was right. Yeah, yeah, politics,

1:10:50

man. The point being, I think

1:10:53

this is a big, unforced error on the, here's

1:10:55

the other thing. You might be right. I brought up the

1:10:57

AFD in terms of Germany.

1:10:59

And I do not want to at all compare MAGA

1:11:03

to the AFD in terms of their views. What I'm saying

1:11:05

is, if you have that 40% ride or die

1:11:09

of the Republican party for Trump, we are gonna

1:11:11

vote for him if he's in the electric chair. I don't care,

1:11:14

right? What happens to

1:11:16

that 40% if he's forced

1:11:19

off the ticket? They've got to go somewhere.

1:11:22

And I don't think there's an obvious plan B for

1:11:24

them. But the irony

1:11:26

or the sadness, I suppose, is that

1:11:28

these people all love DeSantis

1:11:29

a few months ago, as you pointed out. And

1:11:32

they would all love him as president. And I think he would

1:11:34

be a much better president for what MAGA

1:11:36

actually is and accomplished and hire the

1:11:38

right people. And all of those things. And again, right

1:11:40

now I'm being a better quote unquote surrogate than

1:11:43

maybe his guys are. But it's like, this is

1:11:46

the guy that you are all waiting for. And

1:11:48

that Trump said, no, this has to be me again,

1:11:51

or let's fucking blow up the whole thing is...

1:11:54

I know, maybe I'll feel a little bit differently after I'm on the grid

1:11:56

for a couple of weeks. I was talking to prominent conservative

1:11:58

on the phone the other day.

1:11:59

he made the point, and this actually kind of rang true,

1:12:02

the fear, and I don't think

1:12:04

this is crazy, because we don't know ahead of time, because

1:12:06

he's not president yet, is that he would

1:12:08

do a much, he

1:12:11

would be much more playing ball with the establishment

1:12:14

than it would look like as his role as governor,

1:12:16

where you're basically the executive. And that's not an impossible

1:12:18

hypothesis. No, it's not an impossible hypothesis,

1:12:21

but I think you can just look at someone's track record,

1:12:23

and what has this guy said that he didn't accomplish? What

1:12:26

has he massively lied about?

1:12:28

He turned. In any

1:12:29

other election, if Trump didn't exist right now, and we don't

1:12:32

have to do hours on Trump right now, but if

1:12:34

Trump wasn't running right now, all

1:12:36

these people would be supporting DeSantis, and in any,

1:12:39

remove this presidential election, if there

1:12:41

was, just put us on a slightly different planet, and

1:12:43

a guy wins by 20 points, and completely

1:12:46

flips the political system, and then becomes

1:12:48

the place where everyone's moving to, that the economy's

1:12:50

flourishing and is safe, everybody would

1:12:52

be like, maybe that's the guy. You

1:12:54

know what they would, no, no. They would be saying he's a hate

1:12:57

monger. No, no, no. Again,

1:12:59

I'm not, those

1:12:59

people, yes. The machine people, yes.

1:13:02

I'm talking about,

1:13:03

we the people who

1:13:05

are somewhat free thinking, and are

1:13:07

willing to agree to disagree, and that are MAGA

1:13:10

in that you've got Rudy Giuliani, who's

1:13:12

pro-choice, along with the evangelicals

1:13:14

who are pro-life, that thing, most

1:13:16

of them would be looking at DeSantis like, you

1:13:18

know. So, we'll see. That's interesting, and we'll

1:13:21

see what happens tonight, I suppose. any

1:13:23

more money. I think, surprisingly,

1:13:26

from my understanding, please double check me at home.

1:13:28

I think Tim Scott, other than Vivek, is like, in

1:13:31

terms of fundraising, has done a superb job.

1:13:33

Which

1:13:33

is, maybe he

1:13:35

turned money from his Senate campaigns, because he had like,

1:13:38

a nominal opposition. But

1:13:40

the, Mike Pence, apparently,

1:13:42

was on the bubble in terms of fundraising. He's

1:13:44

not making a lot of money. I'm shocked. He

1:13:47

got 40,000 people to support him, because I have not met one Mike

1:13:49

Pence supporter. But I think you have to just donate a dollar. No,

1:13:51

it's a dollar. It literally is a dollar. So, you just,

1:13:54

you're the former VP. You can figure it out.

1:13:56

So, he, I, I, I...

1:13:59

I mean, I mean, let's just go through this. Let's

1:14:02

suppose Trump is kicked off. By the way, wait, do you know

1:14:04

when the first primary is? Isn't it like January

1:14:06

something? Yeah, it's January. So it's funny, we're in

1:14:08

August right now. And the last thing

1:14:10

that I was hearing the week before, all the Trump people,

1:14:13

just say, this must step down. I

1:14:15

was like, guys, guys, we're seven months off the

1:14:17

thing. Now, you know, roughly. So come

1:14:19

on. Another one which is kind

1:14:21

of a big deal, and this

1:14:23

is something that is interesting. They're...

1:14:29

Uh-oh. They're talking COVID

1:14:32

again. In Hollywood,

1:14:34

they're having mask mandates again. I've started

1:14:36

seeing masks on the plane here. Hilarious. Go for it, Callie.

1:14:39

Well, no, I mean, there's talk about this to

1:14:41

be very easy for them in terms of the election to

1:14:44

kind of have the same system that was so effective

1:14:46

for them in 2020. So the

1:14:48

feelers have been coming out in the press that

1:14:50

there's gonna be another wave and we might have to do

1:14:53

all the sort of things again.

1:14:55

I live in the free state of Florida, and I'm never

1:14:57

putting on a mask again, and I did not get injected,

1:15:00

and I will never be injected, and it's complete...

1:15:02

Well, yes. But in terms of the turnout and

1:15:05

the votes, that's... Yeah, could you... Look,

1:15:07

imagine if it was DeSantis who has now signed all these

1:15:09

laws that you'll never before... No, no, Dave, you're not hearing me. No,

1:15:11

no, I got you. What I'm saying is you might

1:15:13

be right. They could just manufacture it a month before

1:15:15

the election, get everybody afraid, and then

1:15:17

it makes Florida look insane, right? That's what I'm saying. What?

1:15:20

What I'm saying is it might be very easy to do mail-in ballots and all that. No,

1:15:22

no, I got it. I got it. But meaning you'd scare

1:15:24

the hell out of everybody and then be like, oh, and

1:15:27

the nominee is the most anti-COVID

1:15:30

safe person that you could possibly imagine.

1:15:33

That would work more against DeSantis than it would even

1:15:35

against Trump, because Trump obviously did war speed and everything

1:15:37

else. Yeah, that's horseshit, and

1:15:39

people are falling for it. Like, they're really bringing it back

1:15:41

in Hollywood. I mean, this happened, like, literally last week. Oh,

1:15:44

my God. Here's the other point. Oh, my

1:15:46

God. Here's a prediction I made. Yes. And

1:15:49

people called me crazy, but I don't think it's

1:15:50

that crazy. If Trump is forced off

1:15:52

the ballot for some reason, and

1:15:54

there's a lot of talk that we don't even need his agreement,

1:15:56

like, if you, like, former Confederate,

1:15:58

if you had... I

1:16:01

forgot what the term was, being an insurrectionist. Therefore,

1:16:03

Congress can just declare that you can't be a candidate

1:16:05

for a federal office. I

1:16:08

would bet Junior runs as his surrogate.

1:16:11

Listen, I like Junior a lot. Why wouldn't

1:16:13

Trump do that? Be like, all right, you can't

1:16:15

have me, have my son. Junior and I have been friends

1:16:17

for years. I would have no problem with Junior

1:16:20

running. It doesn't change how I feel about the governor,

1:16:22

DeSantis obviously. Junior's a good dude. We've

1:16:25

been friends for over a decade, well before his dad

1:16:27

was in politics. I

1:16:29

think I mentioned it on my show a few weeks before

1:16:32

I went off the grid. We haven't spoken since

1:16:34

it got hot related to the two of them.

1:16:37

And I texted him and I said, hey Don, just want you to know,

1:16:40

I put friendship over politics, blah, blah, blah. He

1:16:42

immediately responded with the nicest possible

1:16:44

thing. He said, Dave, we may wanna kill each other throughout

1:16:46

this, but we are good to go and we'll break

1:16:48

bread. And that's what it's all about.

1:16:50

And look, that takes a lot of the baggage

1:16:53

away, right? It does take a lot of the baggage away and

1:16:55

it keeps some of the energy. So did

1:16:57

the Mitch McConnell thing happen before you

1:17:00

left? When he had a stroke just standing there. So was

1:17:02

it a stroke or what? We don't really know. There hasn't

1:17:04

been a lot of follow up. There is some quiet buzz

1:17:06

in the Republican Senate and within Mitch McConnell's

1:17:08

office as well that maybe it's time for him to

1:17:11

step down

1:17:11

for his own health. God, these people, can you

1:17:13

believe that these people have anything to do with

1:17:15

us? I gotta tell you, John, I donated

1:17:17

money to Federman. I'm

1:17:20

serious, he's my favorite. I'd much rather have

1:17:22

him in office than Oz. He's

1:17:25

my favorite Senator by far. My

1:17:27

hope is that

1:17:29

he one day snaps and

1:17:32

goes on a My Same Man rampage on

1:17:34

the Senate floor. Or- Oh

1:17:36

God, you think he's gonna take AOC and crush her. Yeah.

1:17:39

Yeah, I mean, is that not plausible?

1:17:42

No, anything's possible.

1:17:43

And just really just go ham on,

1:17:46

you know, Dianne Feinstein in her wheelchair. Good

1:17:49

God, yeah, it would be like beginning of a Marvel

1:17:52

movie or something. Yeah, he just recently had a

1:17:54

photo of himself holding up a veggie

1:17:56

tray and he wasn't pointing at his head, he

1:17:58

was pointing at like- At the action.

1:17:59

broccoli. So the other thing

1:18:02

that I think those are the kind of

1:18:04

the big, big stories.

1:18:06

I think we hit them all. I want to make sure that people

1:18:09

Herman did die. I don't think that's the main

1:18:11

one. I think I guess the Trump thing also. But

1:18:14

this one, this one, did you hear about

1:18:16

the stuff about what's that

1:18:19

human trafficking movie that sound

1:18:21

of freedom? Yeah, was that breaking before you left? Oh,

1:18:23

yeah, it was crushing it. And it beat Indiana Jones.

1:18:25

Yeah. So Bloomberg, this was

1:18:28

very disturbing to me. Bloomberg had

1:18:29

a reporter denounced it, a critic.

1:18:32

Yeah. And the guy's name was Noah Berlatsky. And

1:18:35

he worked for an organization for like,

1:18:37

for station, what it's called, which is pro pedophile

1:18:39

rights or destigmatizing, whatever. And

1:18:41

I tweeted at every

1:18:43

single person on the Bloomberg opinion staff. I'm

1:18:45

like, was this your decision? Do you support

1:18:48

it? They of course all ignored me. So

1:18:50

at a certain point in my view, if

1:18:53

the corporate press were 1% as

1:18:56

concerned about child abuse as they were

1:18:59

about climate change, things would be a lot

1:19:01

better. There was an article in Canada's Globe

1:19:03

and Mail editorial by a priest and

1:19:05

the headline was the far right's concern

1:19:08

over pedophilia is dangerous. And

1:19:10

I'm like, you know, if this

1:19:13

is where people are freaking out about,

1:19:15

I think this is something that's right. And I got to tell you, I

1:19:17

also don't like it. And I'm sure you'll

1:19:19

agree when conservatives are trying to make

1:19:21

it a partisan issue, not in terms of who's

1:19:23

fighting it, but in terms of who's perpetrating it, because

1:19:26

the people who are committing these acts cross all

1:19:28

lines. You don't check their registration. They go

1:19:30

to where the kids are. This is something that

1:19:33

I talk a lot about because a friend of mine came out

1:19:36

and when I talked about on Rogan with his permission,

1:19:39

several other my friends came out. I remember. I remember.

1:19:41

Yeah. So this is something that I'm an uncle now

1:19:43

of two nephews. This is

1:19:44

something I think needs to be discussed more. It's

1:19:47

just very disturbing to me how common apparently

1:19:49

it is. And we don't have the language to discuss it. If

1:19:51

someone's dad was a drunk, if your mom, you

1:19:54

know, was violent, we could talk about it. Oh, that

1:19:56

sucks. But people feel the need to hold this as

1:19:58

a secret and then they're suffering all their

1:19:59

lives. So I'm glad this is

1:20:02

being discussed more and I'm disturbed

1:20:04

by these attempts to downplay concerns

1:20:06

about it. It's really bizarre also because every

1:20:09

one of us was a child and most of us

1:20:11

hopefully will have children or you have nieces

1:20:13

and nephews or whatever it is. And do

1:20:15

you remember when when Elon took over Twitter

1:20:17

how suddenly out of no... Oh, I think maybe you you

1:20:20

might have tweeted about this before anyone. Yes. How

1:20:23

suddenly... Child abuse is a problem. Suddenly child abuse

1:20:25

was a problem on Twitter. So these people who had never

1:20:27

written about porn

1:20:29

on Twitter. That's what it was about. They had never written

1:20:32

about it once. Suddenly all of these headlines

1:20:34

out of nowhere. Elon has a huge problem with child

1:20:36

porn on Twitter. I was like, well, wait a minute. You

1:20:38

guys did not care about it the entire time. Then a

1:20:40

guy comes in who says there's a problem and

1:20:42

we're trying to resolve it. Now you're trying to

1:20:44

take him out. Right. Like it really

1:20:47

it's so twisted. Yeah.

1:20:49

I remember that because all those reporters who were

1:20:51

like writing headlines. I just searched...

1:20:53

Oh, that's what it was. I searched for

1:20:55

their Twitter feed. I'm like, have you written about this

1:20:57

before? And now you start caring that

1:20:59

Elon took over. It's like, do you really care about the

1:21:01

issue or do you care that this is a cudgel for you to hit

1:21:03

Elon over the head with? Yeah. And to

1:21:06

leverage this as a gotcha

1:21:08

moment to me is so gross.

1:21:11

It's something that is so prevalent. And

1:21:14

again, it's not a political thing. I know

1:21:16

that some conservatives like think everyone's either

1:21:19

Republican or Democrat. I hear this a lot

1:21:21

on social media like, oh, everyone writing

1:21:23

in 2020 where

1:21:25

Democrats

1:21:26

is like, these people aren't civic minded

1:21:28

citizens. They're not registered to vote. Like, yeah, you consider

1:21:30

them out group, but come on. They don't really have opinions

1:21:32

on the estate tax and climate change.

1:21:35

They're just want... They're just criminal. So

1:21:37

I think it just does a big disservice to kind of try to

1:21:40

make it... Dennis Haster, former speaker of the

1:21:42

house, obviously went to jail and associated with this.

1:21:44

So it's just very sick stuff. Slightly

1:21:46

unrelated because we shouldn't end on... And

1:21:48

we have some time. Did

1:21:51

anything happen in terms of censorship, free

1:21:53

speech, Twitter, anything in that department? Was

1:21:55

anyone big booted off YouTube? Any of that kind

1:21:57

of stuff that I might have missed? Yes.

1:21:59

that's a great cue, this actually brings up locals, it's kind

1:22:02

of interesting. So Kurt Metzger, who I mentioned earlier,

1:22:04

had this great joke, I saw him in Austin,

1:22:07

where he made the comment, he goes, and

1:22:09

again, conservatives don't know how to take a win. Like

1:22:11

if things get better, they don't realize it, they just keep complaining.

1:22:13

Like here's a very obvious example.

1:22:15

I'm sure everyone listening to this remembers, we

1:22:17

need more Muslim immigration, we need more Muslim immigration,

1:22:20

refugees welcome here, Khazir Khan

1:22:22

was holding the Constitution in Hillary Clinton's Democratic convention.

1:22:25

That backfired, like people were like, we don't want this, and

1:22:27

then just stop talking about it. This is a win for conservatives,

1:22:30

but conservatives don't acknowledge their victory. So

1:22:33

we all remember Paula Deen, you know, Kurt Metzger's

1:22:36

show, he goes, wait a minute, this old white

1:22:38

lady used the N word once,

1:22:41

30 years ago, and she's ruined,

1:22:44

and it's like, they should build statues to her. This is

1:22:46

the least racist white woman in the South. It's the

1:22:48

Rose Anding,

1:22:48

it's literally the same thing. Paula Deen, by the way,

1:22:50

is back now on YouTube. Oh, she's back? Making,

1:22:52

under the radar, making like cooking shows, whatever, we're

1:22:54

proud to do, where she clearly felt very bad about saying this one

1:22:57

word once many years in the past. Scott

1:23:00

Adams, you know, locals, he's one of the first people

1:23:02

you recruit on locals. He got kicked

1:23:04

off, his publisher said, we're not doing

1:23:06

a book with you, as you know. He's

1:23:08

like, all right, he's gonna do, he decided to do what I did,

1:23:10

just published directly with Amazon. Amazon

1:23:12

gave him a lifetime ban without

1:23:15

a reason. He went public, he was

1:23:17

like, what are you giving a ban

1:23:18

for? They reversed

1:23:20

their decision, and now he is

1:23:22

producing the book through Amazon on his

1:23:25

next book, which would have been published through a major publisher. And

1:23:28

the point being,

1:23:29

when someone

1:23:32

says things are getting better, that doesn't mean

1:23:34

they're good, but it's good that things

1:23:36

get better, usually. So the fact

1:23:38

is that they weren't able to completely

1:23:40

eviscerate Scott Adams, who

1:23:42

said things that are objectively more

1:23:44

inflammatory than what Paula Deen said one word once,

1:23:47

three years ago. Well, Scott likes to poke them there. I think

1:23:49

he's a great guy, and I agree with most of his stuff for sure, but

1:23:51

he is a, you know. Point being, he wasn't,

1:23:53

he's still on Twitter, but never, that never

1:23:56

stopped. He's still on Locals, he's still on

1:23:58

YouTube, I believe.

1:23:58

I'm almost certain. and his book is coming out. So

1:24:01

that is one example of where they

1:24:03

went for him. He gave them somewhat plenty of

1:24:05

ammunition and he has not

1:24:07

been read out of polite society. Although,

1:24:10

you know, all of Dilbert got kicked off its entire

1:24:12

syndication. Is that right? Like a year

1:24:14

ago. So all of the, you know, I don't know how many hundreds or thousands

1:24:16

of newspapers that were syndicating Dilbert kicked

1:24:19

them off. He runs them all on locals now. I mean, how cool

1:24:21

that in this fight that you and I have been doing and

1:24:23

this crazy YouTube thing that we've been doing

1:24:25

for years, I created this tech company

1:24:27

that eventually merged with this tech company that we're sitting

1:24:29

in the booth outside the debate defending

1:24:32

all of the nonsense that we're letting.

1:24:35

Vakaro, what's her last name? Oh, Linda, Linda

1:24:38

Vakaro. It's August 10th. Phoenix

1:24:40

is telling you something happened with Twitter. So she, they

1:24:42

basically, you know, Elon very famously

1:24:44

said he's a free speech absolutist. So

1:24:47

their new

1:24:47

policy on Twitter

1:24:50

was Yaccarino. I'm sorry. Linda Yaccarino.

1:24:53

No, no. She said their new approach is

1:24:55

to deamplify posts

1:24:58

that are lawful but awful. And

1:25:00

I'm going to steal

1:25:01

that. I'm going to steal men her position

1:25:03

because if you are trying

1:25:06

to get advertisers, right? And

1:25:08

as soon as someone who's gay, who's a minority,

1:25:10

who's a woman, who's Jewish, you

1:25:13

post something and you're just getting slurs

1:25:15

and denunciations. Why am I

1:25:18

going to be setting up my shingle here and

1:25:20

being the target of personal abuse? That's, that's kind

1:25:22

of the balancing act you're going to have to play. So

1:25:24

her whole point is, okay, we're not going

1:25:26

to be banning them. The

1:25:28

problem is who watches the Watchers, right? Like

1:25:31

we've been through this. But listen, here's the other thing. You

1:25:33

can't be a free speech absolutist unless

1:25:36

you're going to use circular reasoning. Cause we all agree

1:25:38

that like Dave Rubin, I'm going to kill you

1:25:40

is not acceptable. No, of course, no, no, there are things. We all agree child pornography

1:25:42

is not acceptable. Doxing is probably

1:25:45

for most people is not acceptable. You're going to have to

1:25:47

draw a line somewhere. So the question is, where

1:25:49

do you draw the line? Where is it?

1:25:50

Can you, is it okay to use a slur? It's

1:25:52

like the Talmud. Can you use a slur but not

1:25:54

a slur target against the individual.

1:25:56

So on and so forth. So we're trying to find that

1:25:58

balancing act.

1:25:59

say free speech absolutist. My preference

1:26:02

would be within the confines

1:26:04

of the law of the United States, which has done

1:26:07

a pretty damn good job on this because of the

1:26:09

First Amendment. So I actually believe in libel and slander

1:26:11

laws. And I believe that you can't openly threaten

1:26:13

somebody and you can't yell fire in a crowd theater with the intent to

1:26:15

do harm. You can yell fire in a crowd theater. It's about

1:26:18

intent. You can't yell

1:26:20

anything in any theater because it's a private property

1:26:22

issue. This has to be crazy. Well, that's also

1:26:24

a different thing. You can't yell in a theater. Right.

1:26:26

So that's why what the intent to do are. But the

1:26:29

point is I would prefer when

1:26:31

you watch there's no before social

1:26:33

media came around, if you were, if it's 1987

1:26:36

and you were watching The Cosby Show or you were

1:26:38

watching American Gladiators and a commercial

1:26:41

for Tide or a commercial for

1:26:43

Mercedes Benz came on, no one thought

1:26:45

that had something to do with endorsing The

1:26:47

Cosby Show or American Gladiators.

1:26:49

We've done this very weird thing in social media

1:26:52

where someone thinks because a pre-roll ad plays

1:26:54

before one of my videos, it has something to do with me

1:26:57

or something like that. And that that psychological

1:26:59

shift that everyone's endorsing everything

1:27:02

as opposed to a company wants to just

1:27:04

sell their freaking pans or they just

1:27:06

want to sell their products. That I think has been a bit of

1:27:08

an issue. They want to have a prominent celebrity

1:27:10

on their platform, which they do. And

1:27:12

that celebrity is going to be the subject of slurs

1:27:15

and abuse and all this kind of hateful stuff. It's

1:27:18

going to be hard to draw the names that you want. And that's something

1:27:20

they have to be worried about. Sure. There's there's yeah,

1:27:22

there's an optics issue with it. And there's a difference

1:27:24

between being a business that wants to profit and also

1:27:26

being like right. A utility. So utility

1:27:29

and all of that.

1:27:31

Well, we'll see, I guess. But you know, that

1:27:33

doesn't surprise me because when Elon took over, remember,

1:27:36

he said, I believe in freedom of speech,

1:27:38

not freedom of reach. Wasn't that his line? So

1:27:40

that in essence is what he's saying. The problem with that,

1:27:43

again, is the who watches the watchers thing. So like

1:27:45

you could say, OK, we will guard against

1:27:47

a certain amount of

1:27:49

hate, whatever that is with the good intentions.

1:27:52

But where does the good intentions? Where does that road?

1:27:55

I don't even know. It's necessarily good intentions so much

1:27:57

as our self interest. You know, it's like,

1:27:59

look, this is a company.

1:27:59

We're here, you know, we're hemorrhaging

1:28:02

money. You know, once the advertisers

1:28:04

leave, this is a big, we can't turn the lights on. And

1:28:06

I'm sure you've had to deal with this issue with the locals

1:28:09

in Rumble as well. Yeah, and that's why Rumble, which

1:28:11

I'm, again, we're at the Rumble studio here, which

1:28:13

is awesome. Rumble is the exclusive live streamer

1:28:15

tonight. It's not on YouTube, the debate, it's on Rumble. It's

1:28:17

so awesome that we were able to build all this.

1:28:19

You know, Rumble is running its own cloud. Like we're

1:28:21

building the separate internet. It's really what we're doing.

1:28:24

I mean, you said Scott Adams was one of the first guys. I

1:28:26

think the first three guys I called, I think it was

1:28:28

you, Scott Adams

1:28:29

and Bridget Feddes. We're the three that really helped

1:28:32

me launch this entire thing, so it's pretty cool. I

1:28:34

think Phoenix is saying to get to something on the second, on

1:28:37

August 2nd, I guess there was something we missed, and then we're pretty

1:28:39

much close to wrapping. Holy

1:28:42

cow.

1:28:43

What, you want to tell them what it was? What was it? Oh

1:28:47

no, we did that. We did that. I

1:28:49

want him fired. My guys go off the grid too. They go off

1:28:51

the grid when I come back. That's a weird thing that we did. It

1:28:54

wasn't a

1:28:54

divorce, it was a separation. I know what I'm doing.

1:28:57

Good lord, who do you think I am, Glenn Beck? I know my job.

1:29:00

I'm no screw up. Well, hold on. We're

1:29:03

not done yet, because we've got a few minutes. Let's

1:29:06

go through these eight names. Oh, okay.

1:29:08

At the debate tonight. Yeah, we should do something. And let's

1:29:11

talk about what we think their opportunity strengths,

1:29:13

so on and so forth. So I'm going to go from lowest, which

1:29:16

is probably the best. Bergram, whatever

1:29:18

his name is from North Dakota. Did he blow out his knee? Like

1:29:20

it's probably the knee, right? If it was basketball. Let's

1:29:23

suppose he didn't blow out the knee.

1:29:24

I truly don't know who he is. It

1:29:27

is utterly irrelevant, and let's not

1:29:29

even waste the viewers time. You know what I bet? That

1:29:31

he's going to come in with some

1:29:32

canned lines that he's going to deliver awfully,

1:29:34

and it's just going to be cringe as

1:29:36

f. All right. Asa Hutchinson

1:29:39

is going to be gunning very heavily for President Trump.

1:29:41

Yeah. Do you think he's in a position

1:29:43

to make any sort of noise? What's his lane? No, there's

1:29:46

no lane. Not sorry. There's no lane, there's

1:29:48

nobody, there's nothing. Okay. We got some protesters

1:29:50

out here now, okay. Tim Scott.

1:29:53

I think Tim Scott, look, I've had him on the show.

1:29:55

I like him. I think he's been a good senator, and I think

1:29:58

he represents a lot of the right ideas,

1:29:59

with the USA maybe for us. We support

1:30:02

that. It's funny, we've got the, people

1:30:04

can't see it right now, we'll take some pictures, but the DeSantis

1:30:06

bus to 2024 is right there. And

1:30:09

then there's some pro-Trump people. Wait, that's the way, well,

1:30:11

no, no, that's not the DeSantis bus, that's Chris Christie. Yeah,

1:30:15

he's good, he's good. There's

1:30:17

some Trump people right here. So it's starting

1:30:19

to percolate around here. Okay.

1:30:21

But wait, sorry, who were you? Oh, Tim Scott. No,

1:30:24

I think he'll say some nice things, and I think it'll

1:30:26

be sort of like people won't really want to attack

1:30:28

him, and I think he'll do just fine tonight. But he'll do just fine,

1:30:30

but that's not good enough in my opinion. No, it won't, it

1:30:32

doesn't long-term. She's not a good debater. It doesn't long-term

1:30:34

get you there, but I think it's some of the right ideas,

1:30:37

and he has a nice way about him, and I think. Nikki

1:30:39

Haley's gonna be the only woman on that stage. That's an opportunity

1:30:42

for her. She's obviously gonna stand out. Look, the

1:30:44

truth is, as much as the base seems, the Trump

1:30:46

base seems to hate Nikki, Nikki was at the UN

1:30:49

under Trump, got us out

1:30:51

of all of these accords. She was,

1:30:53

we didn't get into wars when she was, our

1:30:56

UN ambassador. I think she's just

1:30:59

like a pro, and she was an extremely

1:31:01

good governor of South Carolina. So even

1:31:03

though I fully disagree with her, or

1:31:06

let's say 80% disagree with her on Ukraine, which

1:31:08

is obviously a big issue, I think she's just

1:31:10

gonna come off as pretty good. Maybe a little

1:31:12

scripted and a little whatever, but I think she's

1:31:14

gonna be like people. Remember, those women

1:31:16

that you're talking about that maybe could shift a

1:31:19

little bit this time, or think Biden's ridiculous,

1:31:21

or the Democrats

1:31:21

are nuts, or they've had it with the Wokes. It's

1:31:24

like, she's the type of person they could be like, all right, I

1:31:26

actually could do this. I think she's gonna try to be a

1:31:29

soccer mom, kind of the hockey mom, kind of

1:31:31

Sarah Palin did earlier. That might be a

1:31:33

good look for her, but I don't see how much it's got her in terms of traction.

1:31:36

Let's talk about Mike Pence, who

1:31:39

I think he's- I just don't know where the lane is.

1:31:41

I don't see the lane. I think he's gonna be setting himself

1:31:43

up to look like an idiot. He was, oh wait,

1:31:46

I'm gonna take back what I just said. Because

1:31:48

he did far better in the 2020 debates

1:31:51

than Trump did.

1:31:51

He nuked Kamala Harris. He

1:31:54

was calm. Oh yes, he did have, yes,

1:31:56

yes. He was superb. You know what, I take

1:31:58

back, I think Mike Pence.

1:31:59

is gonna be the sleeper candidate, solely

1:32:02

because he did so well in 2020. Interesting,

1:32:04

interesting. I mean, he was particularly good at

1:32:06

that. He was one of, you know, he has this weird thing where

1:32:08

he doesn't look at sometimes at the person he's talking

1:32:10

to. Remember the Tucker thing a couple of weeks ago? And

1:32:13

Tucker was really kind of crushing him and he refused to

1:32:15

look at him. I just don't see where it

1:32:17

is at with him. But before we get to the other guys,

1:32:19

isn't it interesting? So these seven people that we're

1:32:21

mentioning now, or these eight? These

1:32:23

eight people that we're mentioning, think about how much fundamentally

1:32:26

better they are than what the Democrats threw out

1:32:28

last time. Whether you like all these

1:32:29

people or not, or disagree with them on foreign policy, or any

1:32:32

of this stuff. These are functioning

1:32:34

people, right? Yeah, I don't want that.

1:32:36

No, I get it. I get it, you're an anarchist. I want Biden.

1:32:38

I accept that, I accept that. But just in terms

1:32:40

of belief in reality and all that, we

1:32:43

can a burn his food, not terrible, go ahead.

1:32:46

Chris Christie, we both agreed, or we talked about

1:32:48

earlier, that he might surprise us tonight.

1:32:50

He's gonna come out swinging on everything. He's gonna

1:32:52

come out swinging. Vivek, I think, is gonna

1:32:54

be very well prepped. He knows

1:32:57

the knives are out. I

1:32:59

don't know how prepared he's gonna be, and I don't know what they're gonna hit him

1:33:01

with. He's clearly gonna be in some ways. You

1:33:03

think someone's gonna go after him? It's gonna be interesting to see who

1:33:06

they

1:33:06

go after tonight. That's gonna be interesting. Because if DeSantis

1:33:08

is, let's say DeSantis is on the down client, Trump's

1:33:11

already done the damage there, so why would everyone

1:33:13

go after DeSantis? So they might be going after

1:33:15

Vivek as a Trump proxy. There's

1:33:17

something there. Do they go after Trump if he's not even

1:33:20

on stage? It's gonna be interesting tonight. The

1:33:22

question, here's the elephant in the room, and

1:33:24

I don't mean again, Chris Christie, or the Republican

1:33:26

mascot. The moderators,

1:33:29

are they going to have this be a

1:33:32

Trump-centric debate, or

1:33:34

are they gonna acknowledge he's not there

1:33:36

and stick to the issues? It could go either way. Wouldn't it

1:33:38

be nice if it wasn't, like, putting

1:33:40

aside what you think about Trump or anything? Like, if

1:33:42

they really were just like, here, like, could

1:33:44

we do one debate that's not circus? We'll get

1:33:46

to circus. It's an election. And it's more than Brett, right?

1:33:48

It's more than Brett. Look at those giant heads right there. They're both very

1:33:50

professional. I don't think they're gonna make it Trump,

1:33:53

Trump, Trump. I think they're really gonna stick to the issues. I

1:33:55

think that's what people want more than anything else. I know we all

1:33:57

behave differently online, and Twitter, and all that stuff,

1:33:59

but I- I really think people are just like, boy, wouldn't it be

1:34:01

nice if we could just return to something that

1:34:04

was roughly decent, just like a roughly

1:34:07

approximate ballpark, give me something.

1:34:10

And DeSantis is obviously the front runner

1:34:12

of the people on the stage. And

1:34:14

that's the question, are they gonna be going after

1:34:16

him? Right. It'll

1:34:19

be an interesting play for him. It's like, is he gonna go after

1:34:21

Trump while Trump's not there? And

1:34:23

does that actually accomplish anything? Again,

1:34:26

that unmovable base. So you go after Trump.

1:34:28

And even if you say something that's true, you

1:34:31

could say, for example, this is 100% true. Trump

1:34:34

ran reelection ads all

1:34:37

about Fauci praising him. That is true. We

1:34:39

have played it on my show. And then it was Trump, you

1:34:41

know, Trump 2020, how much he loves

1:34:43

Fauci and how Fauci loves him. You

1:34:45

could say that up there. And

1:34:48

you might get someone to be like, oh, that's interesting,

1:34:50

but that unmovable base doesn't seem

1:34:52

to care. So that's, I think, what they're

1:34:54

running up against. And I don't know what you do with that. I

1:34:57

don't know. But I think, for me, this is gonna be like a blondie

1:34:59

concert without Debbie Harry, right? If Trump's

1:35:01

not there, and he's obviously the former president,

1:35:03

and obviously Biden's win was in some ways a

1:35:05

referendum on the Trump presidency,

1:35:08

like what do you do? And it's really

1:35:10

hard for you as, let's suppose, Senator Tim Scott

1:35:12

to be like, when I'm president, it's like, you

1:35:15

got two huge obstacles, which is the entire Democratic

1:35:17

media apparatus, and you've

1:35:18

got the Trump campaign to go through. So,

1:35:21

you know, there's kind of this phoniness about it, if you're

1:35:23

just gonna pretend that we don't have to talk about Trump. It's

1:35:25

a lot of phony. We said it before

1:35:27

about kayfabe. It's like, sometimes it's

1:35:30

just like we're in the show. It's a show, we're

1:35:32

in the show. What's next season? What

1:35:34

keeps us watching? You know, maybe we're at the

1:35:36

stage of democracy where the machine

1:35:38

so doesn't work for any of us anymore

1:35:41

that the importance is the show must go on. Because

1:35:44

if the show didn't go on, then people would seriously

1:35:46

be like, oh, shit. Here's the other

1:35:48

thing. No matter what happens tonight, whoever

1:35:50

gets the sound bites, they're gonna have to rehearse lines.

1:35:52

Trump's getting arrested tomorrow. So,

1:35:55

in a way- Today's Wednesday. So, it's supposedly

1:35:57

happening tomorrow. In a way, this debate

1:35:59

is almost superfluous.

1:35:59

because even let's suppose if a kid's

1:36:02

out of the park, he's got these great one-liners, he's

1:36:04

got BDE, everyone loves it, but tomorrow it's

1:36:06

like, here's the mugshot possibly of the former

1:36:08

president

1:36:08

and everyone immediately on Twitter

1:36:11

is gonna make that their profile pic, every left-leaning kind

1:36:13

of shit live on earth. So we're gonna

1:36:15

see what happens there. Mal, I just wanna thank

1:36:17

you, you did an absolutely bang up job and it's extremely

1:36:19

hot right here in Atlanta right now. And I'm keeping my cool.

1:36:22

You are keeping your cool, I got a little, yeah, I

1:36:24

run hot, but I'm thrilled that you

1:36:26

came and did this and then I will talk to the camera for

1:36:28

a second because I'm a professional broadcaster

1:36:31

and tonight immediately after the debate,

1:36:33

so we're gonna be inside at the debate, but immediately

1:36:36

after we'll walk out of there about 10 minutes early, we'll

1:36:38

be back here, I will be broadcasting,

1:36:40

you gonna

1:36:40

join me? Will you join me? I wasn't invited.

1:36:42

I told them to invite you. They didn't invite me. Well,

1:36:45

maybe Malice will be hanging out somewhere else, we'll see

1:36:47

what happens. But we're in touch

1:36:50

with DeSantis' campaign and Nikki

1:36:52

and I just texted Larry now that I know he's

1:36:54

here and oh, and Vivek

1:36:57

and the rest of them. Vivek, the

1:37:00

rest of them, I guess not

1:37:02

Trump. And we'll see how many join

1:37:04

us and we'll talk about the show

1:37:06

that must go on. I'll be here. Thank

1:37:09

you guys for watching. It's good to be back. Oh, and one

1:37:11

other thing, we are rebuilding our studio

1:37:13

right now. It's in the midst of the rebuild. I cannot wait

1:37:15

to show it to you. The official Rubin

1:37:17

Report, the real show, will be back on

1:37:20

September 5th. We need a little time to just put the rest

1:37:22

of the pieces together. So I may

1:37:24

do like a semi dip off the grid till then,

1:37:26

but we'll be busy in the studio and all that. We'll

1:37:28

keep you posted on social media. I thank you for

1:37:30

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